So going by people's insanity to self identify is more important than what actual sex they are? If so, how will this go to saving a person's life? Ensuring they receive the right treatment? The NHS should only state male or female as that is all we have. Any mental heath issues should be treated as a mental heath issue not registered as some separate class.
Sex can be measured feelings can not be measured Sex is extremely important in reproduction. Feelings of femininity and masculinity related to hormonal levels are not more important than primary sex characteristics
Yes, and as well, hormone levels are as important in preserving the delicate nature of one's fertility and overall health. All very important all very relevant
So true! I’ve pointed out to a couple of trans-identifying males that no matter what medications are taken, what surgeries are done they WILL need to get that prostate checked regularly as they age😂
@@TheOmnitom I think you are right, this Woke political mindset has got important societal figures and politicians going round in circles talking about a load of nothing about a very tiny amount of people.
She’s fudging and deflecting the question on giving the working definition of gender and gender identity. If a word is in our law, surely she knows its definition?
It's like collecting data on peoples cosplay identity. Total nonsense. And yes, pure virtue signaling. This nonsense has to stop. They're embarassing themselves.
@@justmy2cents652 they'll never have the correct data if one day you feel like a man and the next day you feel like a woman. You'll be changing your mind constantly.
Gender identity is fluid, we are told, how can census questions/data ever be accurate if there are constantly new genders and a persons gender has the option constantly changing? 😂
Quite. It’s rubbish. These people need to listen to Helen Joyce & Mia Hughes or just anyone e who is properly informed on this subject (or non-subject)
I completely agree with the man who said that the time should be spent on disability issues. There's far more of those people, including children, and anyone could become disabled and to some extent we all do eventually when we become elderly. They're the people who should be having society shaped around them. Not people confused about sex and fashion.
I will never understand why there is such an obsession with gender identity. Why is collecting that data or designing services around it more important than say any other self identified characteristics such as extroversion/introversion.
Very interesting but when will the learned MP understand that transwomen are men and transmen are women and there should be no confusion with regard to medical practice. A stop be put to the erasure of the word woman with regard to health care (everywhere really). No one should be able to change the sex on their birth certificate and no special treatment should be afforded to men who think they are women period. Health care is available to everyone in this country regardless of their sex, race, religion, disability or sexual orientation, so what is the point of this meeting.
It would be more accurate to describe them as follows - “trans-identifying males” are males who wish to present/live as women, & “trans-identifying females” are females who wish to present/live as men. Many people are easily confused by terms like trans women or trans men, especially those with little connection or interest in “trans issues”. As for “trans women are women” - I respectfully disagree strongly.
@@annem9195 I had to take a moment to understand the recent Le Leche breast feeding 'thing', with the 'trans-identifying males' breast feeding their infants (as men taking hormones).
When I went for both my covid jabs I spoke to 2 different doctors as I questioned why there was a question regarding belief on what I presumed to be a statistical data-gathering form, e.g. 'what is your gender identity?'. They appeared annoyed and/or flustered by my response. I asked if they were asking people about any other beliefs they held and what bearing this had on gathering medical data regarding vaccines? I then crossed out the word 'gender' and replaced it with sex and requested that my sex, not my 'gender' was recorded. Locally the NHS ran a 'inclusive' women-only vaccine clinic which allowed males who say they are women to use the service, thus turning the service into a mixed sex one. Barking.
Some very good questions asked here. Very interesting and so good to hear the (eventual) unequivocal acknowledgement that a woman is An Adult Female, I never thought I would be on the edge of my seat waiting for that definition.
Didn't she squirm? They know they're in the wrong. I didn't recognize the "noble lord" who asked about the definition, but good for him. I hope he doesn't give up.
Biological sex always needs to be know. Putting male rapists who claim to be women into female prisons should be criminalized. Claiming a biological male rapist is a woman is a obnoxious abuse of women.
‘LGBTQ People’ is not a single homogeneous entity. There are lesbian, gay and bisexual people and individuals who identify as transgender and queer; those are FIVE distinct groups of people with vastly different needs and values. Government needs to stop grouping us together. .
How can there be womens rights legally if you self-determine what you are? Can I be sexist and hire all males and just ask them to identify as you know, and then perfectly seem all inclusive while deliberately excluding ...you know.
Every person must be identified in all documents by their biological sex. No one should be allowed to change that on a driver's license, birth record, school record, or anything else.
I’m like you, I don’t believe legal documents should be altered. Statistics will mean nothing if these very important papers can be changed. If, for some exceptional reason a change is made, the new paperwork should CLEARLY state that this is an amended document. This is done sometimes in cases of adoption.
So going by people's insanity to self identify is more important than what actual sex they are? If so, how will this go to saving a person's life? Ensuring they receive the right treatment? The NHS should only state male or female as that is all we have. Any mental heath issues should be treated as a mental heath issue not registered as some separate class.
You cannot provide services if you don't actually define who the service users are!
Sex can be measured feelings can not be measured Sex is extremely important in reproduction. Feelings of femininity and masculinity related to hormonal levels are not more important than primary sex characteristics
Yes, and as well, hormone levels are as important in preserving the delicate nature of one's fertility and overall health. All very important all very relevant
?What to do with the statistical data of "females" with prostate cancer and "males" with cervical cancer? Inquiring minds want to know.😮
So true! I’ve pointed out to a couple of trans-identifying males that no matter what medications are taken, what surgeries are done they WILL need to get that prostate checked regularly as they age😂
What a waste of time and money.
All by design
@@TheOmnitom I think you are right, this Woke political mindset has got important societal figures and politicians going round in circles talking about a load of nothing about a very tiny amount of people.
@@garypautard1069 stakeholder capitalism by wef and davos policy
She’s fudging and deflecting the question on giving the working definition of gender and gender identity. If a word is in our law, surely she knows its definition?
What about the constant discrimination against women! 🤬
Shut up and look after the kids love
[JOKE] 😂
Women that shill for trans rights are the problem, they seem happy to throw their rights away.
We need to know about people's "gender identity" as much as we need to know who thinks about unicorns in the morning. 🙄🙄🙄
All virtue signalling insanity
It's like collecting data on peoples cosplay identity. Total nonsense. And yes, pure virtue signaling. This nonsense has to stop. They're embarassing themselves.
@@justmy2cents652 they'll never have the correct data if one day you feel like a man and the next day you feel like a woman. You'll be changing your mind constantly.
But we do need to know what their biological sex is.
The protection of sex based rights is always necessary.
“Corruption of fundamental data” EXACTLY!
empirical reality appears secondary in Parliament House
Gender identity is fluid, we are told, how can census questions/data ever be accurate if there are constantly new genders and a persons gender has the option constantly changing? 😂
@@acerrubrum5749 great point!
And gender is unprovable. A person’s biological sex can be easily identified using various tests.
Quite. It’s rubbish. These people need to listen to Helen Joyce & Mia Hughes or just anyone e who is properly informed on this subject (or non-subject)
I completely agree with the man who said that the time should be spent on disability issues. There's far more of those people, including children, and anyone could become disabled and to some extent we all do eventually when we become elderly. They're the people who should be having society shaped around them. Not people confused about sex and fashion.
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I will never understand why there is such an obsession with gender identity. Why is collecting that data or designing services around it more important than say any other self identified characteristics such as extroversion/introversion.
What about keeping women and girls safe. Approx 50% of the population vs 0.5%
4.46 absolutely sound point! All that wasted time on gender politics when disabled people face real discrimination
Very interesting but when will the learned MP understand that transwomen are men and transmen are women and there should be no confusion with regard to medical practice. A stop be put to the erasure of the word woman with regard to health care (everywhere really). No one should be able to change the sex on their birth certificate and no special treatment should be afforded to men who think they are women period. Health care is available to everyone in this country regardless of their sex, race, religion, disability or sexual orientation, so what is the point of this meeting.
It would be more accurate to describe them as follows - “trans-identifying males” are males who wish to present/live as women, & “trans-identifying females” are females who wish to present/live as men. Many people are easily confused by terms like trans women or trans men, especially those with little connection or interest in “trans issues”. As for “trans women are women” - I respectfully disagree strongly.
@@annem9195 Exactly. It's actually impossible to be a transwoman unless you're a man.
Yes - 'a stop be put to the erasure of the word woman'. As per the comment below, the individuals are 'trans-identifying males'.
@@annem9195 I had to take a moment to understand the recent Le Leche breast feeding 'thing', with the 'trans-identifying males' breast feeding their infants (as men taking hormones).
Biology deals in facts not feelings.
It is NOT a TOPIC . It IS A DELUSION.
The horror the horror
When I went for both my covid jabs I spoke to 2 different doctors as I questioned why there was a question regarding belief on what I presumed to be a statistical data-gathering form, e.g. 'what is your gender identity?'. They appeared annoyed and/or flustered by my response. I asked if they were asking people about any other beliefs they held and what bearing this had on gathering medical data regarding vaccines? I then crossed out the word 'gender' and replaced it with sex and requested that my sex, not my 'gender' was recorded.
Locally the NHS ran a 'inclusive' women-only vaccine clinic which allowed males who say they are women to use the service, thus turning the service into a mixed sex one. Barking.
What a load of rubbish world's gone mad male and female
Madness
...corruption of fundamental data...
3:23 Please. 🙄
And she has no bloody idea who else is included in that sneakily added ‘+’.
Some very good questions asked here. Very interesting and so good to hear the (eventual) unequivocal acknowledgement that a woman is An Adult Female, I never thought I would be on the edge of my seat waiting for that definition.
Ha... wont even define it. 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Didn't she squirm? They know they're in the wrong. I didn't recognize the "noble lord" who asked about the definition, but good for him. I hope he doesn't give up.
Wef and davos all of this
@@kitsune34343 I like the "I'll come back to you on that" - yeah like hell you will.
Keep on fighting for Sex Based Rights Claire. This cult ideology is insidious.
9:57 Just answer the god damn question.
9:44 Unable to define gender and gender identity 🤡
LGBT+ PEOPLE ...is not a group ...I'm just a homosexual man what has it got to do with me 🌈
Stop all this waste of time on this codswallop.
Biological sex always needs to be know. Putting male rapists who claim to be women into female prisons should be criminalized. Claiming a biological male rapist is a woman is a obnoxious abuse of women.
‘LGBTQ People’ is not a single homogeneous entity. There are lesbian, gay and bisexual people and individuals who identify as transgender and queer; those are FIVE distinct groups of people with vastly different needs and values. Government needs to stop grouping us together. .
Ask yourselves why.
Money. Money money money
@@BasicAngel2266 No. I disagree.
@@xmaseveeve5259 What's your answer, then? Not being snarky, I'm interested.
@@BasicAngel2266 I'd prefer not to say, Angel.
How can there be womens rights legally if you self-determine what you are? Can I be sexist and hire all males and just ask them to identify as you know, and then perfectly seem all inclusive while deliberately excluding ...you know.
Of course, she didn't answer the question of "what is the definition of gender"... lol oh well
Why not collect team ps5/team xbox?
Android vs iphone?
Favoured sportsball team?
Because those categories don’t link to issues like health, education, mortality rates, etc.
WOW they actually get paid to chat this much SHITE
I haven't got a clue why this country is ruined
Every person must be identified in all documents by their biological sex. No one should be allowed to change that on a driver's license, birth record, school record, or anything else.
I’m like you, I don’t believe legal documents should be altered. Statistics will mean nothing if these very important papers can be changed. If, for some exceptional reason a change is made, the new paperwork should CLEARLY state that this is an amended document. This is done sometimes in cases of adoption.
8:05 Absolutely.
What an absolute nonsense!!!!
9:00 Reference to Alice Sullivan review 👏
Absolutely idiotic theme, and waste of time... That's why the UK is so low in every aspect of affairs, economy, and job market.
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Why is this unelected bunch debating ANYTHING ? WHO cares what they think😊
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