To bring the horse to the vertical you need to extend the neck-- Cudos! The horse extending his neck as the final part of collection was first proposed as a completion of a gymnastic move by Dr. Deb Bennet in the mid 1980's, to my knowledge. She should be acknowledged for her pioneering scientific research. best Bruce Peek
Great introduction/overview to true classical training/proper biomechanics. All of this material is covered in his book "Twisted Truths of Modern Dressage", which is now out of print unfortunately (grab a copy if you can find one!! They do show up once in a while..) so this is a good way to get an intro to the work.
And for our further discussion, may we consider that “forward” is a condition of willingness, NOT VELOCITY. This is why “HALT” is a FORWARD TRANSITION.
“Tightening the reins” also means “seeking the contact”. We should stop saying “on the bit” but “in the SEAT! (imho).” If we just learn to SIT THERE, with a still seat and SIMPLE listening hand, the horse gives the mouth, and then the back and the poll. I was JUST thinking about the crank noseband! I disagree about sidereins on the longe. I rehabilitate horses, my specialty is “mystery lameness”-and this is TEXTBOOK!
However, I think side reins on the longe-properly fitted-facilitate the horse’s understanding of “contact”, and very much can be learned from watching how the horse not merely seeks, but utilizes that connection unmounted on the longe. Doesn’t mean you manipulate the bit. Means you make it stable in your hands by being deeply seated.By watching on the longe, you can see what you will later FEEL.
Q: open vs, flexing poll. In reference to the Cronology of: Mouth, Neck, poll flex... Is the poll Open when the horse extends his neck "forward"... than the horse can move its neck...which can flex the neck??? Any idea how to better understanding/ explaining?
Lovely, lovely, lovely. I ALWAYS resisted " Dressage"...what I now know is "Modern dressage". In my 9th year of learning about horses and humans...so...still in my virgin-stage🤣. One thing I am interested in is: how to translate applying Classical Dressage training WITHOUT a bit?. Am convinced that CD CAN be applied without two bits ( or even one). Looking forward to any suggestion
When one of the first things he mentions is to ride as many horses as you can, I immediately stopped listening. I have a full-time job and am lucky enough to own one horse. 🤷🏻♀️ Ride what horses? When?
I think he is referring to the system that is used So if we are one rider with one horse then we should draw inspiration from riders and trainers who are successful with many different types of horses and who use methods that are compatible with learning theory ,horses physiology and the classical guidelines
Thank God we're not in the 90's and there's much more information out there ... PK is a good searcher, but his conclusions are limited. Everything comes from behind, the movement of the hind. Everything else is common sense and sensitivity.
To bring the horse to the vertical you need to extend the neck-- Cudos! The horse extending his neck as the final part of collection was first proposed as a completion of a gymnastic move
by Dr. Deb Bennet in the mid 1980's, to my knowledge. She should be acknowledged for her pioneering scientific research.
best
Bruce Peek
Fantastic video to educate my students to understand why we do the things we do.
And why many things never work no matter how much you try
Great introduction/overview to true classical training/proper biomechanics. All of this material is covered in his book "Twisted Truths of Modern Dressage", which is now out of print unfortunately (grab a copy if you can find one!! They do show up once in a while..) so this is a good way to get an intro to the work.
Thank you ! Wonderful person and rider.All the best for our horses.💖
P. Karls theory lectures are really great 👍 I really enjoy watching it 😊 thanks for sharing ❤
Such a fantastic video!!! I wish his book wasn’t out of print!
Thank you so much! When I started riding I never understood why I should work with legs and hands, brake and accelerate at the same time.
This is wonðerful knowledge to pass on to my students. Thank you.
Superb, thank you ❤️🙏
And for our further discussion, may we consider that “forward” is a condition of willingness, NOT VELOCITY. This is why “HALT” is a FORWARD TRANSITION.
“Tightening the reins” also means “seeking the contact”. We should stop saying “on the bit” but “in the SEAT! (imho).” If we just learn to SIT THERE, with a still seat and SIMPLE listening hand, the horse gives the mouth, and then the back and the poll. I was JUST thinking about the crank noseband! I disagree about sidereins on the longe. I rehabilitate horses, my specialty is “mystery lameness”-and this is TEXTBOOK!
However, I think side reins on the longe-properly fitted-facilitate the horse’s understanding of “contact”, and very much can be learned from watching how the horse not merely seeks, but utilizes that connection unmounted on the longe. Doesn’t mean you manipulate the bit. Means you make it stable in your hands by being deeply seated.By watching on the longe, you can see what you will later FEEL.
And he is an amazing artist!
Thank you! Awesome!
Wow! So insightful. Thank you
This man is a treasure.
brilliant thks for sharing
Awesome! ❤
Profound
Q: open vs, flexing poll.
In reference to the Cronology of: Mouth, Neck, poll flex...
Is the poll Open when the horse extends his neck "forward"... than the horse can move its neck...which can flex the neck???
Any idea how to better understanding/ explaining?
Lovely, lovely, lovely.
I ALWAYS resisted " Dressage"...what I now know is "Modern dressage".
In my 9th year of learning about horses and humans...so...still in my virgin-stage🤣.
One thing I am interested in is: how to translate applying Classical Dressage training WITHOUT a bit?.
Am convinced that CD CAN be applied without two bits ( or even one).
Looking forward to any suggestion
This is the video I watched.
Wish i had an opportunity to school with him
He is forgetting The thing which impact The horse on The Middle. The rider. A bad rider Who lifts up its head and bumps on its back.
When one of the first things he mentions is to ride as many horses as you can, I immediately stopped listening. I have a full-time job and am lucky enough to own one horse. 🤷🏻♀️ Ride what horses? When?
I think he is referring to the system that is used
So if we are one rider with one horse then we should draw inspiration from riders and trainers who are successful with many different types of horses and who use methods that are
compatible with learning theory ,horses physiology and the classical guidelines
Thank God we're not in the 90's and there's much more information out there ... PK is a good searcher, but his conclusions are limited. Everything comes from behind, the movement of the hind. Everything else is common sense and sensitivity.
The hind end is responsible for the actions of the front
So you don't understand what he is saying but you just had to comment?
I understand horses