I have had and worn out quite a few ‘modern’ sewing machines and my present one is a high end Janome, it’s good at dressmaking but is fussy about thread but when it comes to thicker layers it isn’t interested. I have just bought a Singer 201 for a 1/10 of the price and it manages layers much better , I’m delighted with it.
The Janome ( I had loved them but ), will cost $250.00 yearly for cleaning and oiling, plus the integrated circuits will not last forever. Do we need all those stitches ?? The wider zig zag stitch is nice and very controlled speed is good, but… I sold mine on eBay..
The super wide zig-zag is the only reason I put up with the unreliable and limited life-span of the newer machines. If I had to chose, though, I'd keep my really good mechanical serger and stick with my vintage machines. Some of the zig-zag adapters for them offer almost the same width and far greater reliability. I work in a technical profession, so annual maintenance isn't a problem for me to carry out myself, just the new ones need it!@@1953childstar
Ive been a tailor for over 30yrs and only ever had one brand new machine I got in 1978 which ended up being useless plastic crap. I have 11 machines right now and the newest one being 1992, all the rest are between 1958 and 1967 with the exception of my singer serger from 1983. They are all heavy metal body machines, all with zig zag and built in decorative stitches or cams, and most with built-in buttonhole. Most of them could sew a bumper on a buick...lol They sew through anything without hesitation. I would never own one of these new 2023 pieces of plastic that sound like they will crap out at any moment. I have done all maintenance on my machines and even repaired them myself. I love my vintage machines. 👍
Through 50 years of making my clothing, I use a zigzag stitch to finish seams on almost all garments. I have a serger, but only use it for knits. I have owned a Kenmore/janome for 30+ years, made around 1990. It looks like a "plastic fantastic", but has all metal gearing. These usually sell for $35 - $40 on craigslist - up to $150 on ebay ($275 during Covid-price they sold for brand new). They do stretch stitches and a variety of overcast stitches and have one basic built-in buttonhole. I would recommend a brand new $200ish plastic machine for anyone trying to teach themselves to sew - unless someone can give you a good, working used machine and teach you to care for it. But if you want to make Jean's or winter coats or reupholster your furniture occasionally, start your hunt for a good vintage straight stitcher ASAP, if for no other reason than to lessen the load on your machine with bells and whistles. Also remember: no amount of special features on any sewing machine will ever take the place of good sewing skills. Absolutely never.
My very first machine was a Brother XL-2600i. It was loud, not very user friendly, poor stitch quality, but I didn't know any better. Just by accident, I encountered a guy that was liquidating his inventory of vintage machines. Got an Ella 62C. WOW - all the difference in the world. I now have several machines - the newest was manufactured in 1976. Vintage is the way to go. You are correct - 99.9 percent of the time it's either straight or zig-zag. I can produce a stitch that looks like a row of little ducks with my Elsa. That is the only decorative stitch I have ever used.
As someone who sews exclusively on vintage sewing machines, but who has dabbled from time to time with new ones, I agree with all the points you've included in this video. I just don't get the appeal of a computerized machine -- to me it seems like an exercise in almost constant frustration, not to mention the cost of near-yearly professional servicing. Great video!
I personally prefer older machines, my oldest is a 1917 “66.” I do have a modern non-computer machine only because I bought it from someone who decided sewing wasn’t something they wanted to do. I appreciate anyone who sews no matter what they use. My everyday sewer is a 1956, 401.
While the heaviness of a vintage machine is a disadvantage if you want it to be portable it has its advantages too if you don't need portability. Heavier machines (especially if mounted in a treadle table with the heavy irons!) are steadier and don't go walking or skittering about when you're sewing something heavy (e.g. curtains or a winter coat). I see that at least one brand (Pfaff) has got a model now that deliberately has a heavier base. I totally agree about the straight-stitch being the most used too. I've got a fancy computerised machine but find it easier for most of the sewing I do to just grab the hand-crank (no fussing with setting up the foot pedal and finding somewhere close enough to plug the machine in - just sit and sew!). :-)
I take my 100 year old hand crank vibrating shuttle machine with me on my summer holiday, so I can stitch sitting in the sun outside without having to worry about access to electricity. Also, it runs smoother than the 1953 Singer 15k88 that I have on loan from my mother. For most sewing on wovens I do use my Singer 319k, but I can't get it to be truly friendly with stretchy fabrics and knits, so only for that reason I also have a new computerised machine and a serger. But if I ever have to buy another serger, it will be a pre-loved one.
I just bought one last weekend. It had everything but the manual and I ordered that online. I got it in Alexandria VA for $300. It was a steal! Professional seamstress had used it and it’s in immaculate condition! I plan to try and work on, clean, maintain and repair my featherweight and the 201 by myself. I am next looking for a hand crank machine.
Also, there on so many TH-cam videos, especially if you can locate a Singer 15-88. Virtually all of your questions can be answered and parts are available.
My solution is to have a Singer 99 for most of my sewing along with an Elna Supermatic for stretch and fancy stitches. Plus I have a beautiful Japanese 15 clone for heavy weight. These machines are so beautiful and reliable. Plus there is a magic to them that’s hard to quantify. Are 3 machines too many?
I couldn't agree with you more. I own a Singer 201-2, 500a, 503a, as well as a Kenmore 158-1430, 158-1802, and 158-1941. They are all superb. The three Kenmores were sold by Sears Roebuck and Co., a now defunct chain department store. They were made by Maruzen Jaguar and are similar to Frister Rossman machines available in Britain. Pity that Singer couldn't find better ways to compete. From Connecticut, New England, thank you. I enjoy your videos.
i have several vintage Singer machines that range from a 118 year old treadle to a beautiful 60 year old robin blue electric machine. They all run and work beautifully. I can do the mantainence and replace parts on my own. The stitches are great and strong. My personal favorite is my Featherweight, because I can it take everywhere with me. The reality is that i don't need anymore than a straight stitch for the type of sewing I do. I do own a modern machine and rarely use it.
I have my 'modern vintage' straight stitch Butterfly JA2-2 hand crank machine and my mum's Pfaff 130. So far, I have used the Pfaff one time...whenever I go to sew, it's my Butterfly JA2-2 that I reach for.
Thank you for a brilliant and informative comparison video. I have 12 vintage singer sewing machines and 1 new machine ( 7 years old) My singers are a pure joy. So for me, it’s vintage every time🥰
Yay! Your back! Great vid, I am in total agreement with you, it’s vintage all the way. As someone who sews nearly daily, I’ve never used the “fancy stitches” on my (new ish janome) machine, but absolutely love using my 221k or hand crank for decent straight line sewing.
I bought 2 new sewing machines, and both only lasted 1year with only moderate usage. It was very disappointing. I have switched over to vintage machines. They are solid, work horse machines. There is a tremendous difference with the stitch quality. I will never go back to a new machine!
Great job on this video , i was glued to my screan the whole time , you made great points on both sides , but you said the vintage machine will last 5 times as long as a modern machine and thats the only point i dont agree with , more like 50 times if modern are 10 year span i already have some that are 12 times that and still run like new , but i do get your point , nothing has ever been as green as a hand crank or treadle , one and done ....
I have a 120 year old Singer 27 treadle, a 1921 Singer 66-1 and, a 1964 Singer 600E Touch and Sew. I use all three regularly. I would not take a modern machine if you gave it to me free. I love the treadle and the 66-1 hand crank for most of my sewing and use the 600E when sewing on knits and need a zig zag stitch. I am a retired custom dressmaker and these machines are what I used for my business.
Really a useful video and confirms my feeling on computerised and new, versus vintage. I love the vintage machines. I can jump over to the computerised for a one-step buttonhole as desired. But the stitches and satisfaction of using my Singer 201K for clothes, or Singer 222K for quilting, is just unparalleled. The Bernina fills in where a Rolls-Royce with features is required. And on the side a Janome 8077 portable for back-up. If you love to sew it's all interesting. But certainly the vintage are indomitable and beautiful to look at. If I had to choose it would be vintage with attachments. Eventually they'll all go to my granddaughter who I'm teaching just now on a 221K.
*TAKE IT FROM A SEMI PROFESSIONAL BESPOKE TAILOR* you want an all-metal straight stitch machine OR a simple zig zag machine, in good condition, serviced, and it will do everything you need to do. For the ultimate stitch quality, you want a straight stitch - ziz zag wil always give a slight ~~~~~~ instead of ------------
You are correct about what you say about pre 1960 machines though I'd add that besides hire/purchase Singer became well known because its advertising manager was a pioneer in sales trchniques which are still in use today. You are correct about the use of plastic parts in cheaper machines. Anyone who sews more than the very occasional mending job will tell you those machines aren't worth it. If you plan any regular use you're looking at starting around $1200 (US). They do not have plastic parts. My last one lasted 25 years of hard use before I replaced it. That's just the really cheap ones which are garbage. Oh . . . And you're way out on cost for the top-of-the-line models. Well over 10 grand (US) but you really don't need all those bells and whistles. We totally agree on looking for a used machine. Huge savings for a great machine.
Im gonna show my age here, but when i was a child and mom wanted sew, it always messed up the TV reception. We only had three channels and boy it was aweful. However when id go to Grandma's house to stay in the summer, she sewed all of the time on a treadle and we (kids) could enjoy the tv at the same time. Does anyone else remember those days?
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns yeah it's obvious. Just as a side note, Grandma died in 95 and her machine was left to her oldest daughter ( mom is the youngest of 5), when that sister died 3 years ago, the family asked if anybody wanted any of her things, I spoke up and got Grandma's and her machines. Grandma's is a 1951, blue badge centennial singer model 15-( ?) in a model 4 cabinet with plain treadle. Aunt Esther's machine is a 60s model 501 in a model 40 cabinet with knee controller. Moms last sister died last year and I acquired her singer model 15-125 in a fancy model 40 cabinet. I love them and I have my own collection and I will pass them down to my daughter when I'm gone. A lot of memories. Thanks for reminding me.
@@JamesThomas-gg6il What a wonderful story. These machines are part of our family - and social - history and should be treasured. I think as we get older we appreciate these things more and more. I feel sorry for today's generation living in a throw away society, who will have no treasures to pass down the line.
I have a singer 201, 66, and 127. My 201 is electric, but I'm considering converting it to hang crank. My 66 is a treadle machine, and the 127 also hand crank. They do everything I need and I can setup a camping table outside and keep sewing.
Du hast all das gesagt, was ich denke, seit ich nähe. Ich habe eine Singer 401 und eine Anker Nähmaschine, beide habe ich geerbt. Ich liebe diese beiden. Beide sind hauptsächlich aus Metall, sind immer wieder reparierbar und laufen so ruhig und nähen so sauber, um nichts in der Welt würde ich sie tauschen wollen gegen eine moderne Plastikmaschine.
Schade, dass nichts mehr für die Ewigkeit gemacht ist. Je älter ich werde, desto mehr schätze ich ältere und besser konstruierte Gegenstände, die für eine lebenslange und längere Lebensdauer gebaut sind
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns ich auch, ich kaufe z.B. auch keine modernen Möbel mehr. Man bekommt alles in viel besserer Qualität, wenn man alte Möbel kauft und schöner finde ich sie auch. Wenn man ein bisschen guckt, findet man alles auch zu einem guten Preis, muss sie vielleicht ein wenig aufarbeiten, aber das macht mir auch Spaß.
I payed 65 bucks for my singer 66, and 2 days ago I sewed a leather camera bag with it. I have no experience in sewing, yet it was not a problem to get good results. I used 1,6mm cow leather and had to do 2 layers most of the time. I do not recommend this, especially not on a daily basis! But there is no way a basic modern machine at that price could have done that, especially not in decent quality. These old Singers are probably the best offers on the market if you really need a capable machine.
I have been sewing for 46yrs and still can't figure out why most modern sewing machines have all these fancy stitches! I upgraded to a basic Bernina 3yrs ago. To be fair I did purchase an embroidery machine. I have a Singer 201, 50yr old Elna & and ancient hand crank machine. Sadly I sold my mother's 306k Singer as it had travelled thousands of kl around Australia & couldn't face another move when we were planning retirement😢.
At work, I sell brand new machines. At home, I sew on a 1956 Singer 401a. Vintage machines follow me home (far too frequently!) where they get cleaned and tuned up and sent off somewhere for another fifty years of use.
I am sewing on the Singer401a I learned to sew on. It’s the same age as me, and runs great. I bought a new foot control because I didn’t like the original. It still works, I just never liked it.
The advantage of a modern control is it's generally a PWM so you get maximum torque at all speeds. The voltage at its peak is electronically clipped, tapping only what is needed. Motors run cooler. The vintage reostat gives maximum torque only at full speed, anything slower also powers a resistive circuit that only turns the unwanted speed into heat in the pedal. The resulting voltage drop also heat the motors windings. My machines are the 500 and 503 with the 500 as my portable. With the exception of stitches requiring reverse feed dog movement, my vintage run rings around modern desk hammers. Note that half the stitches in modern machines are reversed. You get the same effect on vintage by sewing in the other direction😂.
Watching this video as I drag out my Singer 15-91 to sew some zippers. I have a newer Brother I bought from Walmart, but I consider the 15-91 an up-grade. I have yet to find something it wont sew through. Only drawback? She weighs a ton. lol
I have both and the stitch quality and reliability of Singer before they became junk is worth every penny. Ditto White, two pre-WWII machines easily found where I live and often in perfect condition. I like some of the features on my computerized machines but both reliability and durability are not there. Not even with high-end Janome.
modern machines are much lighter and just don't have the rigidity of a vintage machine. Any flexing of the chassis, however small, must affect the stitch quality.
I have a 'modern vintage' machine, a Butterfly JA2-2. It is a modern reproduction based on a Singer 15. It is a hand crank model with a fully cast iron body with all metal moving parts...no plastic. People look at it and think it is an antique sewing machine! It only does a straight stitch, but, like you said, 99.9% of the time you only use a straight stitch. Most modern 'industrial' machines only do a straight stich. It would seem to me that you would be spending a lot of money for a rarely (if ever) used feature. My mum's sewing machine (Pfaff 130) had several decorative stitches. I do not think she ever used anything other than the straight stitch and only occasionally the chevron stitch. Is there any advantage in getting a 'vintage style' sewing machine over a modern one? It depends. Do you want one with all the bells and whistles, or one that will last a long time? I take my sewing machine to uni with me every week. Yes, it is heavy! Interestingly, I am the only student there that brings her machine in with her...and I'm the only one who isn't interested in having a lot of fancy stitches, so a straight stitch machine is fine by me. In the early days of sewing machines, it was not such a deal breaker that they only had straight stitches...Seamstresses in those days often did a lot of hand sewing, so they would use the machine to do straight stitches, but if they needed a fancy stitch, they pulled out their hand-sewing equipment and got at it that way, so to them, it was not a strange concept to do fancy stitch-work by hand.
I think you have put the argument for having vintage sewing machines beautifully! I could not have said it better myself. Sadly it is becoming the same with cars. All these gadgets like heated massaging seats and touchscreens will mean nothing when the hybrid motor can’t be repaired. Happy sewing!
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns I am also thinking of the environment. I already have a boneyard here full of old electronic boards that are being scrapped and components which are still good being reused. As much as is possible is being recycled so it doesn't end up being more crap in a landfill. In my sewing, I also seek to 'green source' as much as I can, so natural textiles instead of synthetics.
Lovely video. I have my grandma’s then mom’s vintage treddle convertable to electric singer. I have the cabinate and a crazy button hole gizmo attachment. My personal favorite is my 1970’s Elna. Also have an elna lotus. My old Viking is a sturdy workhorse. When I bought it the salesman sewed through a wooden yardstick.! Those machines still purr. Now I own a few modern machines, Janome & Brother. They do embroidery, have speed control, self thread, cut thread, feet that walk, knot thread, stop filling bobbin when full, wash dishes, dust and vaccuum! Everything! 😉 next I expect a machine that will follow verbal commansds. What do you think? Thanks so much!
I enjoyed this so very much! When you spoke of the Elna, my heart jumped! I searched for it online and found some for sale! Exciting! Never heard of it before! Thank you!
It's strange... many people this days prefers to get rid of clothes than repairing it, yet the machines are pretty feeble compared with the old ones, what's worse is that circuitry is so cheap that with a little more investment they could make it more resilient.
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns yeah, I know, but less and less people are sewing their own clothes, I would expect them to think like the chess clock makers: better machines, a bunch of profit, as they can't sell so often... but no, they're making them like fridges, I don't get it.
@@angelr194 Clothes, like sewing machines, are cheap and disposable these days. It's all about convenience. For this generation, it's all that they know.
I'm completely new to sewing and just purchased a singer 411 u967aa. Can you please tell me if the new machines have less issues with the stiches being too tight or too lose? (sorry complete newbie trying to learn)
Try a vintage Kenmore 148 or 158. They are cheaper than singer, heavy duty, and have pretty colors. They are also well known to have parts available and you can maintenance it yourself.
Is there another company like Sailrite that do High Quality, user servicable, heavy duty, domestic machine ? They are in lot of way close to vintage machine. I'm looking for one but more domestic like (the LS-1 from sailrite looks a lot like a mini industrial and have on 1 or 2 points).
I have a 1926 99k hand crank that I use all the time and a 1970s Singer that does zigzag. I wouldn't trade them for a new one. I'm tempted to buy a Singer 201 though.
I find that with the incandescent light I can actually see what I'm working on a lot easier the LED light it's a whole lot more blinding and it's not good for a long duration of time and you would think that a sewing machine from this generation provides more power except only it provides more power on paper the most traditional sewing machines depending upon how will they made can provide unlock my power putting play difficult materials a lot easier
One thing I noticed straight away when inheriting great-grandmothers Singer 201 is that there is no measuring guide on the needle plate compared to my newer Brother model. How does one ensure an even and straight seam allowance while sewing?
You can purchase magnetic seam guides. It’s placed next to the needle plate at the required distance from your needle. It’s then just a case of running the edge of your fabric against the magnet. For smaller seams I just keep focussed on my fabric edge and where it is positioned in relation to a point on the presser foot. I hope this helps?
@@angierosales1606 I’ve inherited my Mother’s 201 and it almost purrs. It is so smooth compared to my modern machines, it’s what I imagine driving a Rolls Royce must be like! Good luck with the machine…look after it and I’m sure you’ll love it!
Great video! I saw a listing for a Fully refurbished 291U1 (1956) singer machine on a 43” by 22” table. It has a new oil pan gasket, oil change and they will Provide enough oil to do another oil change when it needed. It has a Brand new Kevlar drive belt, various threading and tension parts have been replaced and the timing checked. It's been completely rewired and has a new on/off switch and runs on regular 240v electric. My question is, how much should I bid up to while still getting a good item for a good price! There is such a wide range in sold machines on eBay that I have no idea where to place my max bid, I live in the uk. Any response is much appreciated!
I don't know why so many people say an Elna sewing machine is so great? I have had one for 3 years and used it about 3 times. It's not what I was told that it should be - a heavy duty sewing machine. It jumps all over the place and runs like a toy machine. What a waste of $900.
I have had and worn out quite a few ‘modern’ sewing machines and my present one is a high end Janome, it’s good at dressmaking but is fussy about thread but when it comes to thicker layers it isn’t interested. I have just bought a Singer 201 for a 1/10 of the price and it manages layers much better , I’m delighted with it.
The Singer 201 is a fantastic machine!
The Janome ( I had loved them but ), will cost $250.00 yearly for cleaning and oiling, plus the integrated circuits will not last forever. Do we need all those stitches ?? The wider zig zag stitch is nice and very controlled speed is good, but… I sold mine on eBay..
The super wide zig-zag is the only reason I put up with the unreliable and limited life-span of the newer machines. If I had to chose, though, I'd keep my really good mechanical serger and stick with my vintage machines. Some of the zig-zag adapters for them offer almost the same width and far greater reliability. I work in a technical profession, so annual maintenance isn't a problem for me to carry out myself, just the new ones need it!@@1953childstar
Ive been a tailor for over 30yrs and only ever had one brand new machine I got in 1978 which ended up being useless plastic crap. I have 11 machines right now and the newest one being 1992, all the rest are between 1958 and 1967 with the exception of my singer serger from 1983. They are all heavy metal body machines, all with zig zag and built in decorative stitches or cams, and most with built-in buttonhole. Most of them could sew a bumper on a buick...lol They sew through anything without hesitation. I would never own one of these new 2023 pieces of plastic that sound like they will crap out at any moment. I have done all maintenance on my machines and even repaired them myself. I love my vintage machines. 👍
"Sew a bumper on a Buick" so true!
A great comparison between both, its vintage for the win for me!
and for me too!
Through 50 years of making my clothing, I use a zigzag stitch to finish seams on almost all garments. I have a serger, but only use it for knits. I have owned a Kenmore/janome for 30+ years, made around 1990. It looks like a "plastic fantastic", but has all metal gearing. These usually sell for $35 - $40 on craigslist - up to $150 on ebay ($275 during Covid-price they sold for brand new). They do stretch stitches and a variety of overcast stitches and have one basic built-in buttonhole. I would recommend a brand new $200ish plastic machine for anyone trying to teach themselves to sew - unless someone can give you a good, working used machine and teach you to care for it. But if you want to make Jean's or winter coats or reupholster your furniture occasionally, start your hunt for a good vintage straight stitcher ASAP, if for no other reason than to lessen the load on your machine with bells and whistles.
Also remember: no amount of special features on any sewing machine will ever take the place of good sewing skills. Absolutely never.
Great points!
Thank you for sharing
My very first machine was a Brother XL-2600i. It was loud, not very user friendly, poor stitch quality, but I didn't know any better. Just by accident, I encountered a guy that was liquidating his inventory of vintage machines. Got an Ella 62C. WOW - all the difference in the world. I now have several machines - the newest was manufactured in 1976. Vintage is the way to go. You are correct - 99.9 percent of the time it's either straight or zig-zag. I can produce a stitch that looks like a row of little ducks with my Elsa. That is the only decorative stitch I have ever used.
As someone who sews exclusively on vintage sewing machines, but who has dabbled from time to time with new ones, I agree with all the points you've included in this video. I just don't get the appeal of a computerized machine -- to me it seems like an exercise in almost constant frustration, not to mention the cost of near-yearly professional servicing. Great video!
Me neither. I just find the older machines easier to use and more reliable.
Vintage all the way. The smoothness and reliability, along with the beautiful straight stitch just can’t be beat.
I personally prefer older machines, my oldest is a 1917 “66.” I do have a modern non-computer machine only because I bought it from someone who decided sewing wasn’t something they wanted to do. I appreciate anyone who sews no matter what they use. My everyday sewer is a 1956, 401.
While the heaviness of a vintage machine is a disadvantage if you want it to be portable it has its advantages too if you don't need portability. Heavier machines (especially if mounted in a treadle table with the heavy irons!) are steadier and don't go walking or skittering about when you're sewing something heavy (e.g. curtains or a winter coat). I see that at least one brand (Pfaff) has got a model now that deliberately has a heavier base. I totally agree about the straight-stitch being the most used too. I've got a fancy computerised machine but find it easier for most of the sewing I do to just grab the hand-crank (no fussing with setting up the foot pedal and finding somewhere close enough to plug the machine in - just sit and sew!). :-)
That's a great point!
I take my 100 year old hand crank vibrating shuttle machine with me on my summer holiday, so I can stitch sitting in the sun outside without having to worry about access to electricity. Also, it runs smoother than the 1953 Singer 15k88 that I have on loan from my mother. For most sewing on wovens I do use my Singer 319k, but I can't get it to be truly friendly with stretchy fabrics and knits, so only for that reason I also have a new computerised machine and a serger. But if I ever have to buy another serger, it will be a pre-loved one.
Here in the USA the Featherweight sells at a high premium because quilters, who get together in a group to quilt with friends, covet them.
Quilting is growing in popularity here in the UK so I expect prices to rise.
I just bought one last weekend. It had everything but the manual and I ordered that online. I got it in Alexandria VA for $300. It was a steal! Professional seamstress had used it and it’s in immaculate condition! I plan to try and work on, clean, maintain and repair my featherweight and the 201 by myself. I am next looking for a hand crank machine.
mostly feeling intimidated by the maintenance aspect is what has kept me from getting myself a treadle maschine, but your videos help me tackling this
On the whole, treadle machines are simple to maintain. It's just really cleaning and oiling.
Also, there on so many TH-cam videos, especially if you can locate a Singer 15-88. Virtually all of your questions can be answered and parts are available.
My solution is to have a Singer 99 for most of my sewing along with an Elna Supermatic for stretch and fancy stitches. Plus I have a beautiful Japanese 15 clone for heavy weight.
These machines are so beautiful and reliable. Plus there is a magic to them that’s hard to quantify. Are 3 machines too many?
3 machines? That's just a starter kit! 😄
I couldn't agree with you more. I own a Singer 201-2, 500a, 503a, as well as a Kenmore 158-1430, 158-1802, and 158-1941. They are all superb. The three Kenmores were sold by Sears Roebuck and Co., a now defunct chain department store. They were made by Maruzen Jaguar and are similar to Frister Rossman machines available in Britain. Pity that Singer couldn't find better ways to compete. From Connecticut, New England, thank you. I enjoy your videos.
I agree that it's a shame Singer could not compete. I know very little about Kenmore machines. I was aware they were sold through a department store.
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns Kenmore sewing machines were made by Janome for about 30 years before Sears closed..
i have several vintage Singer machines that range from a 118 year old treadle to a beautiful 60 year old robin blue electric machine. They all run and work beautifully. I can do the mantainence and replace parts on my own. The stitches are great and strong. My personal favorite is my Featherweight, because I can it take everywhere with me.
The reality is that i don't need anymore than a straight stitch for the type of sewing I do.
I do own a modern machine and rarely use it.
I also have an all singing, all dancing machine that sits gathering dust.
I have my four two Jones a little Betty and a Rushmore British made machine 😊
I have my 'modern vintage' straight stitch Butterfly JA2-2 hand crank machine and my mum's Pfaff 130. So far, I have used the Pfaff one time...whenever I go to sew, it's my Butterfly JA2-2 that I reach for.
Thank you for a brilliant and informative comparison video.
I have 12 vintage singer sewing machines and 1 new machine ( 7 years old)
My singers are a pure joy. So for me, it’s vintage every time🥰
Good points.
Glad you think so!
Great little video! Upholds all the positive values of the vintage machines, which were built to last, more than one life time !!👍👍
I think you’ll find hand cranking isn’t free to run. Mine’s fuelled with biscuits
Yay! Your back! Great vid, I am in total agreement with you, it’s vintage all the way. As someone who sews nearly daily, I’ve never used the “fancy stitches” on my (new ish janome) machine, but absolutely love using my 221k or hand crank for decent straight line sewing.
Did you miss me? Unfortunately life conspired against me getting anything done for a while!
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns I kept looking for you, just glad your back!
I agree vintage style always.
What a thorough comparison that respects the viewer's intelligence. Thank you so much
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Great to hear your voice again!...great content as usual 👍
I am happy that you posted a new video. I enjoyed the comparison of vintage versus modern sewing machines.
Thank you!
I bought 2 new sewing machines, and both only lasted 1year with only moderate usage. It was very disappointing. I have switched over to vintage machines. They are solid, work horse machines. There is a tremendous difference with the stitch quality. I will never go back to a new machine!
The vintage machines when new, were very expensive. Modern machines are built to a price. And it shows.
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Well explained 👏. I am sewing machine engineer love the old vintage machines.
Great job on this video , i was glued to my screan the whole time , you made great points on both sides , but you said the vintage machine will last 5 times as long as a modern machine and thats the only point i dont agree with , more like 50 times if modern are 10 year span i already have some that are 12 times that and still run like new , but i do get your point , nothing has ever been as green as a hand crank or treadle , one and done ....
I was being conservative with me estimate! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Glad to see you back. Great to hear your voice again. 🙏😊
Singer 319 gets my vote. They make perfect stitches and they are wild!
Thank you for this lovely explanation. ❤
I have a 120 year old Singer 27 treadle, a 1921 Singer 66-1 and, a 1964 Singer 600E Touch and Sew. I use all three regularly. I would not take a modern machine if you gave it to me free. I love the treadle and the 66-1 hand crank for most of my sewing and use the 600E when sewing on knits and need a zig zag stitch. I am a retired custom dressmaker and these machines are what I used for my business.
Can't get a better recommendation for vintage sewing machines than that! Thank you!
Love my Featherweight 221 and 222K sewing machines. Best straight stitch and never any problems.
Built for quality, not cost!
As máquinas de costura antigas são as melhores.
Eu concordo totalmente.
Really a useful video and confirms my feeling on computerised and new, versus vintage. I love the vintage machines. I can jump over to the computerised for a one-step buttonhole as desired. But the stitches and satisfaction of using my Singer 201K for clothes, or Singer 222K for quilting, is just unparalleled. The Bernina fills in where a Rolls-Royce with features is required. And on the side a Janome 8077 portable for back-up. If you love to sew it's all interesting. But certainly the vintage are indomitable and beautiful to look at. If I had to choose it would be vintage with attachments. Eventually they'll all go to my granddaughter who I'm teaching just now on a 221K.
It really is a question of quality stitches versus features.
*TAKE IT FROM A SEMI PROFESSIONAL BESPOKE TAILOR* you want an all-metal straight stitch machine OR a simple zig zag machine, in good condition, serviced, and it will do everything you need to do.
For the ultimate stitch quality, you want a straight stitch - ziz zag wil always give a slight ~~~~~~ instead of ------------
You are correct about what you say about pre 1960 machines though I'd add that besides hire/purchase Singer became well known because its advertising manager was a pioneer in sales trchniques which are still in use today.
You are correct about the use of plastic parts in cheaper machines. Anyone who sews more than the very occasional mending job will tell you those machines aren't worth it. If you plan any regular use you're looking at starting around $1200 (US). They do not have plastic parts. My last one lasted 25 years of hard use before I replaced it. That's just the really cheap ones which are garbage.
Oh . . . And you're way out on cost for the top-of-the-line models. Well over 10 grand (US) but you really don't need all those bells and whistles.
We totally agree on looking for a used machine. Huge savings for a great machine.
Im gonna show my age here, but when i was a child and mom wanted sew, it always messed up the TV reception. We only had three channels and boy it was aweful. However when id go to Grandma's house to stay in the summer, she sewed all of the time on a treadle and we (kids) could enjoy the tv at the same time. Does anyone else remember those days?
Yeah, the capacitors in the foot pedal weren't much good at stopping the interference with the TV!
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns yeah it's obvious. Just as a side note, Grandma died in 95 and her machine was left to her oldest daughter ( mom is the youngest of 5), when that sister died 3 years ago, the family asked if anybody wanted any of her things, I spoke up and got Grandma's and her machines. Grandma's is a 1951, blue badge centennial singer model 15-( ?) in a model 4 cabinet with plain treadle. Aunt Esther's machine is a 60s model 501 in a model 40 cabinet with knee controller. Moms last sister died last year and I acquired her singer model 15-125 in a fancy model 40 cabinet. I love them and I have my own collection and I will pass them down to my daughter when I'm gone. A lot of memories. Thanks for reminding me.
@@JamesThomas-gg6il What a wonderful story. These machines are part of our family - and social - history and should be treasured. I think as we get older we appreciate these things more and more. I feel sorry for today's generation living in a throw away society, who will have no treasures to pass down the line.
Excellent Video Thx! I'm running a 15-88
I have a singer 201, 66, and 127. My 201 is electric, but I'm considering converting it to hang crank. My 66 is a treadle machine, and the 127 also hand crank. They do everything I need and I can setup a camping table outside and keep sewing.
Great video!...you shared all the information I needed. Thank you very much!
I’m glad to be of help
Du hast all das gesagt, was ich denke, seit ich nähe. Ich habe eine Singer 401 und eine Anker Nähmaschine, beide habe ich geerbt. Ich liebe diese beiden. Beide sind hauptsächlich aus Metall, sind immer wieder reparierbar und laufen so ruhig und nähen so sauber, um nichts in der Welt würde ich sie tauschen wollen gegen eine moderne Plastikmaschine.
Schade, dass nichts mehr für die Ewigkeit gemacht ist. Je älter ich werde, desto mehr schätze ich ältere und besser konstruierte Gegenstände, die für eine lebenslange und längere Lebensdauer gebaut sind
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns ich auch, ich kaufe z.B. auch keine modernen Möbel mehr. Man bekommt alles in viel besserer Qualität, wenn man alte Möbel kauft und schöner finde ich sie auch. Wenn man ein bisschen guckt, findet man alles auch zu einem guten Preis, muss sie vielleicht ein wenig aufarbeiten, aber das macht mir auch Spaß.
@@ausnein7139 Das ist wirklich wahr. Ich renoviere auch gerne alte Möbel. Es ist eine viel bessere Qualität.
I payed 65 bucks for my singer 66, and 2 days ago I sewed a leather camera bag with it. I have no experience in sewing, yet it was not a problem to get good results. I used 1,6mm cow leather and had to do 2 layers most of the time. I do not recommend this, especially not on a daily basis! But there is no way a basic modern machine at that price could have done that, especially not in decent quality.
These old Singers are probably the best offers on the market if you really need a capable machine.
I have been sewing for 46yrs and still can't figure out why most modern sewing machines have all these fancy stitches! I upgraded to a basic Bernina 3yrs ago. To be fair I did purchase an embroidery machine. I have a Singer 201, 50yr old Elna & and ancient hand crank machine. Sadly I sold my mother's 306k Singer as it had travelled thousands of kl around Australia & couldn't face another move when we were planning retirement😢.
I guess an embroidery machine is a different kettle of fish! But for basic sewing, you can't beat the old machines.
At work, I sell brand new machines. At home, I sew on a 1956 Singer 401a. Vintage machines follow me home (far too frequently!) where they get cleaned and tuned up and sent off somewhere for another fifty years of use.
Great video, thank you 😊
I am sewing on the Singer401a I learned to sew on. It’s the same age as me, and runs great. I bought a new foot control because I didn’t like the original. It still works, I just never liked it.
There seems to be a lot of people who don't like the original foot controls - personally I prefer them to modern ones.
The advantage of a modern control is it's generally a PWM so you get maximum torque at all speeds. The voltage at its peak is electronically clipped, tapping only what is needed. Motors run cooler. The vintage reostat gives maximum torque only at full speed, anything slower also powers a resistive circuit that only turns the unwanted speed into heat in the pedal. The resulting voltage drop also heat the motors windings. My machines are the 500 and 503 with the 500 as my portable. With the exception of stitches requiring reverse feed dog movement, my vintage run rings around modern desk hammers. Note that half the stitches in modern machines are reversed. You get the same effect on vintage by sewing in the other direction😂.
@@strayblackcatsmeow The Necchi Supernova has the reverse feed stitches.
I got a Singer 15k 90 because my 70s Elna Lotus cannot handle heavy weight/tight fabrics such as denim or coutil
Watching this video as I drag out my Singer 15-91 to sew some zippers. I have a newer Brother I bought from Walmart, but I consider the 15-91 an up-grade. I have yet to find something it wont sew through. Only drawback? She weighs a ton. lol
Ironically it’s weight is part of the reason for its strength. Modern machines are jus not heavy or rigid enough to be powerful.
Good video. 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻😊🏆🏅🥇👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have both and the stitch quality and reliability of Singer before they became junk is worth every penny. Ditto White, two pre-WWII machines easily found where I live and often in perfect condition.
I like some of the features on my computerized machines but both reliability and durability are not there. Not even with high-end Janome.
modern machines are much lighter and just don't have the rigidity of a vintage machine. Any flexing of the chassis, however small, must affect the stitch quality.
I have a 'modern vintage' machine, a Butterfly JA2-2. It is a modern reproduction based on a Singer 15. It is a hand crank model with a fully cast iron body with all metal moving parts...no plastic. People look at it and think it is an antique sewing machine! It only does a straight stitch, but, like you said, 99.9% of the time you only use a straight stitch. Most modern 'industrial' machines only do a straight stich. It would seem to me that you would be spending a lot of money for a rarely (if ever) used feature. My mum's sewing machine (Pfaff 130) had several decorative stitches. I do not think she ever used anything other than the straight stitch and only occasionally the chevron stitch.
Is there any advantage in getting a 'vintage style' sewing machine over a modern one? It depends. Do you want one with all the bells and whistles, or one that will last a long time?
I take my sewing machine to uni with me every week. Yes, it is heavy! Interestingly, I am the only student there that brings her machine in with her...and I'm the only one who isn't interested in having a lot of fancy stitches, so a straight stitch machine is fine by me. In the early days of sewing machines, it was not such a deal breaker that they only had straight stitches...Seamstresses in those days often did a lot of hand sewing, so they would use the machine to do straight stitches, but if they needed a fancy stitch, they pulled out their hand-sewing equipment and got at it that way, so to them, it was not a strange concept to do fancy stitch-work by hand.
I think you have put the argument for having vintage sewing machines beautifully! I could not have said it better myself. Sadly it is becoming the same with cars. All these gadgets like heated massaging seats and touchscreens will mean nothing when the hybrid motor can’t be repaired. Happy sewing!
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns I am also thinking of the environment. I already have a boneyard here full of old electronic boards that are being scrapped and components which are still good being reused. As much as is possible is being recycled so it doesn't end up being more crap in a landfill. In my sewing, I also seek to 'green source' as much as I can, so natural textiles instead of synthetics.
Lovely video. I have my grandma’s then mom’s vintage treddle convertable to electric singer. I have the cabinate and a crazy button hole gizmo attachment. My personal favorite is my 1970’s Elna. Also have an elna lotus. My old Viking is a sturdy workhorse. When I bought it the salesman sewed through a wooden yardstick.! Those machines still purr. Now I own a few modern machines, Janome & Brother. They do embroidery, have speed control, self thread, cut thread, feet that walk, knot thread, stop filling bobbin when full, wash dishes, dust and vaccuum! Everything! 😉 next I expect a machine that will follow verbal commansds. What do you think? Thanks so much!
I think soon, you'll be able to describe what you want and artificial intelligence will order the fabric and haberdashery and make it for you!
@@CurioByBSpokeDesignsso sad!
I enjoyed this so very much! When you spoke of the Elna, my heart jumped! I searched for it online and found some for sale! Exciting! Never heard of it before! Thank you!
Elnas are lovely machines.
It's strange... many people this days prefers to get rid of clothes than repairing it, yet the machines are pretty feeble compared with the old ones, what's worse is that circuitry is so cheap that with a little more investment they could make it more resilient.
They don't want to make them more resilient - they want you to buy a new one every few years. Planned obsolescence.
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns yeah, I know, but less and less people are sewing their own clothes, I would expect them to think like the chess clock makers: better machines, a bunch of profit, as they can't sell so often... but no, they're making them like fridges, I don't get it.
@@angelr194 Clothes, like sewing machines, are cheap and disposable these days. It's all about convenience. For this generation, it's all that they know.
I'm completely new to sewing and just purchased a singer 411 u967aa. Can you please tell me if the new machines have less issues with the stiches being too tight or too lose? (sorry complete newbie trying to learn)
I believe that's an industrial machine. I have no experience of them, sorry.
I wish modern came in cute color options. I love the easy buttonhole making in modern machines, but want a teal machine.
Try a vintage Kenmore 148 or 158. They are cheaper than singer, heavy duty, and have pretty colors. They are also well known to have parts available and you can maintenance it yourself.
Is there another company like Sailrite that do High Quality, user servicable, heavy duty, domestic machine ? They are in lot of way close to vintage machine. I'm looking for one but more domestic like (the LS-1 from sailrite looks a lot like a mini industrial and have on 1 or 2 points).
Precisely
I have a 1926 99k hand crank that I use all the time and a 1970s Singer that does zigzag. I wouldn't trade them for a new one.
I'm tempted to buy a Singer 201 though.
The 201 is a game changer but the 99 is still a great machine.
I find that with the incandescent light I can actually see what I'm working on a lot easier the LED light it's a whole lot more blinding and it's not good for a long duration of time and you would think that a sewing machine from this generation provides more power except only it provides more power on paper the most traditional sewing machines depending upon how will they made can provide unlock my power putting play difficult materials a lot easier
I agree, some LED bulbs are terrible to work by.
One thing I noticed straight away when inheriting great-grandmothers Singer 201 is that there is no measuring guide on the needle plate compared to my newer Brother model. How does one ensure an even and straight seam allowance while sewing?
There are plates available for the 201 with a measuring guide on. Or you could use the screw down seam guide.
You can purchase magnetic seam guides. It’s placed next to the needle plate at the required distance from your needle. It’s then just a case of running the edge of your fabric against the magnet. For smaller seams I just keep focussed on my fabric edge and where it is positioned in relation to a point on the presser foot. I hope this helps?
I had no idea, I will definitely be getting one. The machine works beautifully and am anxious to create something on it. Thank you!
@@angierosales1606 I’ve inherited my Mother’s 201 and it almost purrs. It is so smooth compared to my modern machines, it’s what I imagine driving a Rolls Royce must be like! Good luck with the machine…look after it and I’m sure you’ll love it!
@@tulip2many235 I know exactly that "purring" you're referring to. My newer Brother can't compare. 😉
Great video! I saw a listing for a Fully refurbished 291U1 (1956) singer machine on a 43” by 22” table. It has a new oil pan gasket, oil change and they will Provide enough oil to do another oil change when it needed. It has a Brand new Kevlar drive belt, various threading and tension parts have been replaced and the timing checked. It's been completely rewired and has a new on/off switch and runs on regular 240v electric.
My question is, how much should I bid up to while still getting a good item for a good price! There is such a wide range in sold machines on eBay that I have no idea where to place my max bid, I live in the uk. Any response is much appreciated!
I really have no clue when it comes to the value of industrial machines. maybe some one else can answer?
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns ahh no worries ty anyways, and hopefully someone else can!
I don't know why so many people say an Elna sewing machine is so great? I have had one for 3 years and used it about 3 times. It's not what I was told that it should be - a heavy duty sewing machine. It jumps all over the place and runs like a toy machine. What a waste of $900.
If you are talking about a modern machine then I agree. Vintage Elnas are wonderful
I feel this video had a blatant bias, because vintage machines are blatantly better
Blatantly!
Las puntadas de las máquinas antiguas son mejores
¡Estoy de acuerdo!
What do you think about singer fashion maker classic 298 ? The reviews are bad. Should I buy one or not?
I don’t know anything about that model. If the reviews are bad then I would avoid it.
Oh thank you
Keep hearing this Norfolk accent
You do? I was born in Yorkshire but spent half my life in Lancashire. I’ve only ever been to Norfolk twice!
@@CurioByBSpokeDesigns lol well, then I was wrong. ❤️
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