The Love Parade Festival Stampede 2010
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ต.ค. 2022
- The in-depth story of the Duisburg Love Parade Stampede Disaster 2010.
Love Parade is one of the biggest music festivals in Europe. A landmark of German popular culture, it has drawn millions of partygoers from around the world for over two decades.
It’s 2010, and the city of Duisburg is hosting the techno parade for the first time. Music trucks drive around the festival grounds, and some of Europe’s top DJs are set to perform. Without a doubt, this is the party of a lifetime. Rivers of people are swarming toward the old freight station where the free event is staged...
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The sad thing is, in a few years you'll be able to do an episode on 2022 Seoul Halloween festival disaster. The same things just keep happening.
this just happened? holyshit
@@mikaross4671 Rainer Schaller also just died in a plane crash a few days ago
@@mikaross4671 Only mere HOURS before the video was published (about 2-3 hours before 12 A.M. in South Korea) did the crush happen. I can't find a more bad time for two things to coincide when the time gap is just only 3 hours.
EDIT: Corrected terminology to crowd crush.
Was gonna say the timing is a bit scary - Right now the death toll is still at 149, but will probably still rise by a lot in the coming hours and days.
eerie coincidence- incidents like this are big reason why i always take “locate the nearest exit” seriously
I think ppl don’t appreciate just how quickly a situation can turn into life or death RIP
It wasn’t a stampede - it was a crowd crush. Stampedes aren’t common in humans. In a crush, you lose the ability to move of your own accord, and fluid dynamics takes over. A stampede suggests people could move. People weren’t killed by trampling - they passed out and suffocated.
thanks for the clarification!
But people could move. If they couldn't move they would have stayed at home. People should know how to spot a potentially dangerous crowd and just not go. They should know never to push, because pressure doesn't add up by magic. I know those who are crushed can do nothing, but pressure doesn't appear by magic. People know you should not shield under a tree during a storm, and they should know too what to do close to such crowds. When I give warnings to people close to big crowds or refuse to go, I am treated like a paranoid person instead. People should know that crowds can be dangerous, but I stead we keep insisting that nothing could possibly be done from the side of the participants.
@@Trip_mania That is not what they meant and if you don't know what he tried to say, that sucks for you. Your comment has nothing to do nor disproves the op.
@@Trip_mania Actually it does for those trapped in one. The people who are in serious danger in a crush have no way of getting out because it's the people entering from the back that don't see what is happeneing that causes it.
When a crush starts and you are in it then you are stuck there, you can't just up and walk out... you know... which is kinda the problem. You enter and everything is fine, then the crowd gets bigger, then all of a sudden you are struggling to move and cant get out, then you can't move at all.
Blaming the participents when it's something that is a known danger and why large scale events need to be properly organised reeks of the Hillsborough Crush where the fans were blamed.... no it was the fault of the organiser and the police.
@@under-dog5390 I know that those who are crushed can't do anything and I know that those who enter are unaware of the danger. I am just saying that they should be. I repeat, when I see a crowd for example in a small street, I know not to go there but I constantly see people going there anyway because they are clueless. Yes sometimes the crowd forms very gradually and you can't do anything, yes the organizers are responsible, but too many people don't know about the dangers associated with dense crowds and this is a problem as well.
I remember a friend calling me in tears begging me to pick him up. I was schocked to hear him like this. When i arrived there was just utter chaos and misery everywhere. I picked my friend up and a group of girls i didn't know. All where just crying the whole time. An absolute disaster. I've never seen such dispare anywhere in my country and hopefully i wont ever again.
as far as my concern is , in your country there are still nazi dickead crow that walk down the street like nothing....to me this is very scary too.
I've seen Terrible dispare in your country!!!!!!!
Seriously dude? Lmao ww2?!
@@Aussiematee no idea what your comment even means
@@Aussiematee and the Emu war... many such cases. Sad!
Crowd crushes are horrifying- my mother was involved in one in 1988 when she was just 17 at the time.
It was the Guns N' Roses crush at Donington Park.
My mother was saved by two older men who managed to lift her up onto their shoulders (thankfully she was pretty close to the sides and front but she was a short girl and was being repeatedly pushed down).
She says she still cant listen to their song Welcome To The Jungle because of it.
Two men died that day, and Guns N Roses themselves pulled people up onto the stage to save them from being crushed.
I remember hearing about that one. Terrible. Same with the Pearl Jam one at Roskilde in 1994.
@@mrkipling2201 is it 1994 and not 2000?
@@gctechs 2000 you're right, my apologies
So your mom rode two guys at a Guns and Roses concert?
and thats how you were conceived
This is another reason for me to never go to any large gathering. Happy to be an introvert; I simply don’t trust large gatherings because of “mob mindset”.
I'm the same, ever since seeing the station nightclub disaster I always hangout by an exit while seeing a show at a club
You wouldn't get me near a crowd of this size. I'm an introvert too and a festival is the last place I would feel comfortable.
Totally agree, over the last few years in particular(shocker) Being apart of a crush is easily avoidable, as you said, by simply not being there🤷♂️ But the reason for *this* goes far beyond a mob itself. It is the people who let in too many, too fast, to a confined area. What scares me more than a large crowd is people, in "charge," who are supposed to know wth they are doing..... who do not💀
@@shawnnewcomer4879 yeah for real, ill go to a stadium for a football game or concert, but any open air shows like this where its free roam? Fuck that shit, people are to blame for the disaster, they literally say it in the video "people pushing each other expecting the line to move up just a little faster" is what causes crushes to happen
Me too, hate crowds.
As a former security guard at a music concert, I remember having to pull people out of the crowd, in front of the stage, that were being suffocated as they were pressed against the guardrail. Many of them extending their hands for help, but couldn't make a sound
As someone who was in that same situation and didnt have someone help till it got real scary , thank you❤❤
Katrina, I would have helped you. My motherly instincts make me think of this sort of scenario every time I'm at an event. I'm sorry that happened :(
The most important thing is to go in a fetal position on the ground so you can still breathe, or sideways if crushed upright. That way your lungs can still expand to breathe
@@diverman1023 Sounds like a good way to get trampled to death.
@@diverman1023 good tip. 👍🏻
As a astrowolrd 2021 survivor I think a episode with this caliber of research would be more then appreciated to shine light on a fatal night we’re so much young life was lost in a hour
I’d love to hear your perspective on astroworld. I remember all the controversy regarding how Travis acted during it and all the weird satanic conspiracies within all it.
@@itzshadowz7467it was a planned sacrifice
Correct.
yes, watch how the barriers were positioned, that had to lead to some deaths
holy shit shut up
If you find yourself in a crowd crush like this, try to keep your forearms up against your chest so that you give yourself a larger diameter and more room to breathe. With your arms up by your chest, you’re giving your ribcage room to move in and out, and the pressure from the crowd is staying up above that critical area.
If you fall down with people on top of you (crowd crush often involves dozens or hundreds of people falling forward), try to roll onto your side if you can. Again, this gives your lungs/ribcage more space to move because the majority of the crowd force at that point will be coming from on top of you rather than on the ground next to you.
Even better: Pair up. Face each other, and put your hands in the armpits of the other person, thumbs up. You can hold each other both upright, and use your arms to create space between you to breathe.
None of that is going to help you. Like flying in a cessna or cave diving. You just stay away. "1.2 million people are going to the same location, you in?" No thank-you.
@@SuperTed. I agree I fly only Pipers no wing on top like a Cessna, silly place to put a wing , rotating wings on choppers the same as they have to beat the air into submission to stay airborne, but I digress hello from down under.
How about act like you are a modern human, and not a sheep? If there is no way out, don't go in. A simple concept called 'duty of care' will prevent all but the most stupid idiots from winning Darwin Awards.This confirmed by the courts.
I got stuck in a crowd like this and it was terrifying. We'd gotten there early and were pretty close to the stage and people just kept piling in behind us. It wasn't too bad until the concert started. A big difference though was that I was inside a venue and I think it was supposed to hold 200 people, maybe 300, and I'm not sure if they oversold or if that many people just rushed the stage all at once but I know at first I was a bit uncomfortable. Then I couldn't move. Then I couldn't breathe. And then the weight of the people behind me started kind of forcing me down, like I was trying to kneel. It was scary because I'm 5 feet tall and was about 95 lbs at the time but being so short, no one could really see me and when I started going downward, I just knew no one would see me and I'd get trampled. Fortunately a guy about 2 or 3 people behind me noticed what happened and leaned between the people between us, grabbed me by my shoulders and just sort of yanked me out. It then took me about 15- 20 minutes to work my way about 30 feet over to the side, to the wall and then I inched along, pressed to the wall because there was no room to move, until I got to the very back. I still don't know who that guy was but about 24 years ago, he saved me from being seriously hurt and maybe killed so thank you, anonymous dude from 1998.
youre welcome!
that sounds absolutely frightening!
Very glad that even today, people still do this. I used to go to Vans Warped Tour most years and I made the mistake of taking my then-best friend with me who was 4’11 and 100lbs. I’m 5’7 and 190lb woman who can hold her own so I enjoy sticking to the outskirts of the pit and it didn’t occur to me that she would be in danger standing in the area where I chose to be. We were suddenly pushed and piled into from behind and in front when the band started playing. I tried to keep my arms bear-hugged around her so she wouldn’t get knocked down by the force of crowd surge. At one point we were being pushed downwards and a man behind us steadied us and acted as a barrier shielding us for the remainder of the set until we could move out. I appreciate that random man because it could have ended very badly if he didn’t pull us up.
@@TheWholeEntireCake I did what I could, happy to have helped you!
That sounds so terrifying. I can definitely see why people start to really panic in those situations. I am so glad that guy saw you and was able to help!!
There are many things that could have been done to prevent or diffuse this, but IMO the biggest problem was to hold an event that had a history of attracting crowds of over 1 million people at a location that could only safely hold 250,000.
Well if you dig a bit deeper into German media you can find out that they often pushed their numbers, almost every year before they had less than 500k people attending but for marketing reasons they publicly boosted it. The organizer also told this the city and that they actually only expect around 150-200k people, so everyone thought the 250k limit should be more than enough. Afaik there actually were less than the 250.000 people there, but the event location was still really bad planned and apparently nobody thought about how people are going to move that day, having exit and entrance in the same tunnel.
Duisburg doesn't have a venue, that can handle that many people, there were never any large events taking place there. The city doesn't have the capacity nor did the city government have the experience to handle an event even a quarter of the size of the Loveparade. They were actually expected to cancel the event like Bochum did and criticized by local politicians from the other cities for not doing so.
Jack Brolin, I agree. If only these people could think smart as we do.
@@anobissoooks8833 They exactly knew this.
Should have been cancelled. It looks awful anyway. Far too many people in such a confined space, a confined town even.
This all happened when I was 11/10. My older sister was there and I remember my parents, my other older sister and me watching all of this on the news unable to reach my sister. We all cried of happieness when she came home later that day, rightfully traumatized. I still think of this when I'm in crowded areas and get anxious
I’m a Cincinnati native, and grew up on horror stories of The Who concert crush. The fact that even decades later, every few years there seems to be a major crowd crush tragedy (Loveparade, Astroworld, 2022 Seoul Halloween Festival) and people/organizations just don’t ever seem to learn… It’s heartbreaking and infuriating.
Dickheads bring it on themselves. If there is no way out...why put yourself there? Simple concept. To listen to music? FFS!
This confirmed by the courts.
The timing of this episode’s release is eerie… given what happened at the Halloween festival in Seoul today. It just goes to show how common these type of crowd crushes actually happen.
as if it predicted another stampede ..errie the timing..
Not only that, the organizer's jet crashed in the caribbean a few days ago
Just gave me goosbumps when I realised its the newest episode. I clicked on it because I thought the algorithm dug it up from like 3 years ago.. Wow
Literally was just talking to my mum about what happened in Korea and googled this only for this to be the first thing I see
Bonkers timing. So many people trying to figure out how on earth something like the Halloween disaster could happen.
I have been in a crowd crush. Unconscious people were being pulled out every second around me and people yelling for help. Fortunately no one lost their life but plenty were injured. I broke my arm. It’s so unbelievably terrifying to be squished against other people to the point where you can’t breathe.
If you’re ever in a crowd crush, put your arms against your chest, elbows down, forearms up. This will give you a better chance to push away people. It might not work at all but it’s better than nothing.
The reason that arm placement is helpful is because it leaves more room for you to breathe. When your arms are up at your chest, you’re creating a larger diameter for yourself, and your ribs can move in and out in the space below your arms. Also- you fall down with people on top of you, try your best to lay on your side to give yourself the best chance of still being able to breathe (when you’re on your side, the motion of your lungs/ribcage is mainly battling the pressure of people on the ground beside you, rather than the force coming down on top of you. Though your ribcage can obviously still get broken).
It does work. I naturally hold my arms close to my chest in fists kinda subconsciously. It's not a threatening kind, i kinda look stupid. Saved my ass one time in 04...
lol
Lol
Do you know how long after becoming unconscious does it take before you expire?
Crowd crushes are one of the most terrifying things. I hope the victims families finally obtain justice.
It is terrifying and the weirdest thing is that you're inside the thick of it you don't realise the panic at first because you inside thr mass of people and can't get a perspective and see what's going wrong so you're kind swept along confused and then the panic starts and it's like a fire spreading as everyone panics and makes the situation worse with little to zero notice of thr danger coming.
Terrifying is that there are so many people in this world, and that only 21 people died there, it should be thousand, at least, it was a sad day for mankind that day.
Justice? WTF? Darwin Awards all round. Brought it on themselves... duty of care cockheads - judge danger for yourself.
If the crowd had behaved as modern humans rather than panicked cattle, they would not have killed each other. Simple.
This confirmed by the courts.
Authorities were WARNED before, that the safety concept is dangerous and could not work. They ignored it and noone was ever held responsible. I´m still furious about this.
I briefly experienced this at a football game. Drunk people from the back kept pushing forward to get into the game, those in front were stopped. It’s absolutely terrifying.
I went to a concert when I was a teenager when suddenly the crowd surged forward. I was right at the front and could not breathe fortunately the staff intervened and no one was hurt but it was terrifying. When I think of what might have happened.
@@elizabethhayward8238 I was at one concert where the front barriers suddenly broke. The concert was interrupted and security personne had to hold up the barrier with brute force while it was being repaired. Fortunately nobody wa injured there either.
We used to experience this on a lesser scale virtually every week at football matches in the 1980’s. We thought it was normal. I guess it was back then.
There needs to be a universal alarm for when a crush happens that immediately let's incoming people know to leave and or find a clear space to ease the pressure off the main bubble of people. How has this not happened yet.
@@MizzzFizzz how about don't be stupid. The masses are asses. If you join in on an environment with a large mass of people you lose your right to complain.
In Germany, the term Loveparade really has become synonymous with being uncomfortable in too large crowds. Still I'm surprised how this simple mistake- the entry is also the exit- is repeated again all the time. Just this year I was at a rock festival and they had barricaded a road so goers had to use the same gates entering and exiting. I was horrified.
exactly, that and areas not suitable for large crowds + bad organisation = always chaos
Yup, you always need to have multiple exits.
Ever since this happened, I check the entrances and exits and make sure to stay to the edge of crowds in large venues, if I go at all. Everytime it gets more dense, even at Winter Markets, I'm reminded of this and make sure to haul butt out of there.
It seems so obvious that this would be a bad idea. I am so surprised every time it happens!
The Halloween crowd crush in south korea also happened cus people were entering and exiting through that narrow alley and there wasn't any police deployed to manage the crowd
And this is just one of many reasons I stay away from crowds… I’ll watch it on TV thank you very much
I'm from Duisburg and my dad and cousins went to loveparade while I saw the horror happen on tv. No phone call going through, we'll never forget. Our city is unfortunately just doomed.
This is wild. I was at this Green Day show maybe 20 years ago and there was this ten year old (I was in my teens) and she kept getting shoved around and away from her mom (who was behind me a couple of people) so I pulled the girl in between me and the guard wall thing and told her to stand on my feet and I won’t let her get away.
Boy did my feet hurt by the end of it but people get crazy in the pit! I wonder if that kid remembers me.
Heck yeah she does
Huh. I went to a Green Day show around 2006 (in Sydney) and the crowd was super full-on. The only time I had to be pulled out of the pit. It was scary
Sad that a teen had to step in and help a child instead of the parent actually protecting and parenting. Who takes their child to that sort of concert, and then doesn't watch them? Good job being a responsible and kind teen. You were clearly raised well. Absolutely that child grew up and still remembers you. You were probably the only person who showed concern for their well being, or showed maturity in their life up to that point.
@@jenx5870 like they said, the crowd kept pulling the kid away from the mom. I doubt this actually has something to do with bad parenting. It does have something to do with people being selfish dicks. I never understood, nor will ever understand mosh pits.
Bringing kids to concerts is fine- I've brought both my children to many concerts and music festivals, starting when they were pretty young. I think my daughter was 6 or 7 when she slept through Godsmack at a local music festival. However, you don't bring your children into the most rowdy areas of the concert. If it's GA only then you suck it up and stand in the back so your kid doesn't get stomped on, elbowed in the face or crushed. They can get away from you, whether accidentally in the shuffling of people dancing close together, or on purpose because some psycho snatches them and be gone in a minute. It's just common sense. If you want to have fun without having to worry about a kid getting in the way of your good time or having to miss out sometimes then simply wait to have them.
Minor linguistic note: “overseen” and “overlooked” may seem by their construction that they should mean the same thing, but they’re actually kind of opposites? If you oversee something, you monitor/coordinate/watch over it. It you overlook something you fail to notice it.
Good catch! In my mother tongue we say 'oversikt' - literally just over + sight - to refer to one`s view, figuratively speaking. If you have oversikt on something, it means you can see a whole situation; you have a good grasp on what it going on. Whereas if you try to translate it to English, it becomes oversight, which means you missed something! Just like you are explaining. Languages are fun and frustrating :D
@@sym3428 Actually “oversight” is even more complicated. Because if you *have oversight* over something, it’s similar to your language - you are the one in charge of monitoring it. But if you call something *an oversight* now that means it was missed. If the person with oversight while overseeing the project overlooks something, that becomes an oversight on their part. English is weird. 🙂
Yup
Interestingly, it's the exact opposite in German! "Übersehen" is failure to notice, "überschauen" is having the full view of something.
What if I am standing on a scenic OVERLOOK in the hills? Am I "overlooking" the valley?
I remember it well. I was there, 16 years at the time. We were just 5 minutes late, in the tunnel, and saw the people climbing up and trying to get out. At that time we didn't even comprehend what was going on, we thought it was for fun. It was absolutely fine to move around just a few meters away from that centre area. Once the fences were pushed down it was resolved and we got up to the festival area. We only heard much later as our worried parents calls what was going and then the festival was cancelled. When we went out we saw the white tents and ambulances. it was surreal, as we didn't notice what was going on although we were just 50m or respectively 10min away from what was happening.
I was in a bad crush at a concert once. It was the single scariest thing I have ever experienced. I've felt my life was in danger many times, but there was always some action I could take to remedy the situation or self rescue. This was total powerlessness.
I feel that calling it a stampede takes from the severity. This is a crowd crush, nobody could move, run, or trample anyone like in a stampede. They were slowly crushed to death by the people on all sides of them. Horrific way to go.
Exactly, just like what happened in South Korea.
Rest in peace to all whom lost their lives. 😢
@garmonbozia in a stampede, there is at least some room for maneuvering & attempting escape. They’re just two completely different scenarios & a stampede does not properly describe what happened here.
It doesn’t take away from the severity however it blames the victims for something that isn’t their fault.
i think it’s a pretty easy death, you have trouble breathing and you faint and that’s it.
@@BlondeQtie how the fuck can someone think being crushed slowly for an extended period of time and struggling to breathe until you can't is EASY?? "that's it" wtf
My Dad and a couple of his friends went to Duisburg for Love Parade that day. On a whim they decided to go to a club first for a few drinks. They enjoyed it so much they decided to stay. My Dad is usually very set on his plans, so I thank the gods for that decision!!!
It's not everyday you hear someone say drinking saved your dad's life 😂
Your dad and his buds probably already got buzzed at the club lol, and didn’t want to drink and drive. You describe him as some one that would be responsible like that. Either way, glad your dad ended up safe that day.
The Booze God decided to spare your dads and his friends. All Hail the Booze God!
glad your dad is safe
So they lost the money of the tickets ?
Man, this is crazy. This whole thing reminds me of a study I read where they claimed placing a pole in front of an exit helped reduce the risk of congestion in a mass exodus event like a stampede. Since everyone has to go around the object, it forces people to separate and stagger their exits instead of all jamming through at the same time.
They did it by studying ants, iirc. Fascinating read.
Hi! Im from Duisburg, the city where this tragedy took place. It's still regularly talked about, and I still remember hearing about the events in the radio. It was so scary and so insanely sad.
People always underestimate crowds. Take care, guys. If possible, avoid going with the crowds. Even on festivals, nowadays there is always some place with more room for you. Lessons have been learned from the tragedy.
They haven't been though, it keeps happening.
@@11274reece freak accidents will always happen. Airplanes still crash but it would be false to say nothing has been learned from previous crashes.
@@ember9361 Very stupid comparison. Plane crashes can happen and be the fault of no one, maybe weather. These events where crushes happen are usually overpacked with people and could have been avoided by sticking with the venues limit rather than trying to fill pockets with ticket sales etc.
Negligence is usually behind these things.
@@11274reece The comparison is closer than you might realize, since both instances are related to human error. Weather phenomena are responsible for a portion of plane crashes, but even then, the crash is often avoidable but a decision is made to continue a flight that should have been cancelled or diverted...pilot error is at the top of the list.
Wear a bubble suit or a suit or armour. Protect your lungs
Rainer Schaller, the organizer, was also the owner of the global gym chain "Gold's Gym" and Germany's largest gym chain "McFit".
He and his family died in a plane crash off the shores of Costa Rica a few days ago.
R.I.P. to those who lost their life's in Seoul today
Really? Wow. RIP.
Oh wow, that’s crazy that’s him! That’s who I thought of when they said he was a German who owned a bunch of gyms
Rip to everyone who died in Seoul
@@meowjakx3 yeah a f* up crash. 2 bodies out of 6 have been found but not identified. The plane was destroyed and only small pieces found, they are near to stop actually looking for them. It is believed that the plane fell down at 500km/h
I saw the crash. Had no idea that was the same person. That crash is extremely odd in nature.
I have worked special event security for a very long time. This video should be a standard for crowd management training. It is very well done, comprehensive and factual. Great job!
Yeah, when this happened I was heartbroken, having seen all the lovely images of the 90s Love Parades crowding the streets and turning a city into a massive rave festival. What incredible times! This was a tragic event and I was very sad when it was decided and announced that Love Parade was done for.
Nothing lovely in those images
I was in Berlin last summer and stumbled upon the first love parade in 10 years. I was floored by the level of organization and the amount of security personalle, but now I know why.
They always learn the hard way
Regulations are written in blood
German here. The actual death toll is way higher. People forget that thousands of young people were traumatized for life. Around a dozen of suicides in the years after incident were contributed to the PTSD caused by the event. Some people had to look into the eyes of their best friend, while they are suffocating, turning blue and getting crushed by THEIR body. While you cant move and cant do anything - can you Imagine that will cause the Trauma?
that’s horrific. i never even considered the traumatic aftermath for survivors, you’re so right.
Some of them will have trauma. Most of them will be fine.
Crazy
@@snau-owctsjl "wheat from the chaff." And talking about it like it's main character syndrome. Wow. You seem like the kind of person that doesn't have the capacity to love anyone enough to be traumatized by their loss. Good for you, but other people aren't psychopaths.
That's not part of the death toll. Suicides after war aren't counted as war casualties.
Being stuck in a crowd would be one of the most terrifying situations for me. This disaster showed me, that whenever you get into a crowd and space gets tight, never try to move towards the only exit. All the people rushing to a small bottleneck will never turn out well. The fact that there was a small staircase on the side probably made the situation worse than it had been already.
I just found your channel through your video on the Adventureland Raging River tragedy, and I must say I enjoy your videos, especially your narration. I appreciate the research you do as well as stating things matter-of-factly rather than sensationalizing it. You've earned a subscriber!
I had no clue this happened. What a tragic day for what was supposed to be a fun time. As sad as it is, I'm glad the festival was discontinued.
Back then I lived in Düsseldorf and had plans to visit the Love Parade with a good friend of mine. I remember how disappointed I was when another group of friends ‘kidnapped’ us for some BBQ at the Rhein.
So we were sitting in the sun, eating some nice food when the news hit us.
And that’s the story how BBQ might have saved my life :’)
Wow... Your friends saved you from a nasty experience or maybe even worse. Woodstock '99 was rough, but no one died, probably because of the amount of space they had, but the location in Duisburg was just too small and they weren't well prepared, like Woodstock '99 wasn't prepared.
I lived in Cologne then during my studies. Was *this* close to going to the Parade but my friend cancelled last minute. I debated to go alone but deciced not to. We got lucky indeed
@@anski00 Sheesh, that's soma luck you had!!
Go woke go choke.
Unlikely for you to be one of the victims of hundreds of thousands, but highly likely for an incredibly unpleasant and scarring situation
There needs to be a universal alarm for when a crush happens that immediately let's incoming people know to leave and or find a clear space to ease the pressure off the main bubble of people. How has this not happened yet.
Because good and responsible event planners know how to avoid situations like this.
@@maxnova9763 lel yea, it took decades and thousands of deaths before we figured out firedoors, and then not to lock them.
but this kind of alarm might lead to a mass panic. it's so hard to stop this kind of thing once it's started.
@@kael9664 You know what leads to mass panic? hundreds of people getting trampled. :/ I understand but with an alarm comes education, education is the most important thing, teaching people how to deal in panic situations, people dont start to panic and go crazy with a fire alarm do they?
Just have a boombox ready with a Justin Beaver CD on stand-by. Croweds will disperse.
Thanks for this episode, there’s so little English language content out there about it, it doesn’t seem that too many people outside of Germany know about it. I saw all the video footage from it shortly after it happened, it was one of the most horrific things I’d ever seen.
Just found your channel and I’m kind of obsessed, I feel so bad for these poor people who were just out at a festival trying to heave a good day with friends and then THIS happens ugh 😢
I remember that some kids from my school attended the Loveparade and passed the tunnel shortly before this happened. Coming from a small, tight knit german town, we all held our breaths until their families confirmed they got out safely. These tragedies can be avoided, stay safe everyone.
they passed the tunnel into the festival or out of it?
Notice how there was next to no black people to climb on the ambulances and start twerking.
@@rydz656 Mommy didnt give you enough attention as a child eh little man? Poor kid *HUGS*
@@suchabadkitty1293 looks like daddy didnt hug you enough. Or possibly too many special hugs...
@@haywoodjablome7822 Jesus, you're not even original. 🙄Yawn.
This was my first Love parade... looking back at it I was so lucky to arrive at the spot very early on, before the crowds formed. We had no issue getting in and didn`t even find what has happened until the next morning.
How could you not know till the next day?
@@beverlyarcher546 we got to the scene before the issue started, then danced the whole time and left sometime at night. There was no music interruption or alert to the people already there that something was wrong.
First? So not only did you go to this event where people died, but you continued to go to more? What a degenerate!
Based Stacy dabbing on oxygen deprived virgins
The thought of going to something like this gives me a headache.
Bravo on your compassionate account of this insane situation. You'll never catch me at any giant gathering ever, period.
As a former security manager with an interest in crowd control and event management, and as a fan of music festivals, this tragedy makes me so mad. You do not need a degree in crowd management to be able to see that this ramp and entrance/exit route was wholly inadequate for that many people. I would be reluctant to implement this site for an audience of 150K, let alone the number they approved. The fact that most of that entrance was walled in makes this even more criminally negligent. There was little or no actual crowd control going on at this event, they didn't implement staged opening of these pathways, they didn't prevent people from entering or exiting to control the build up of people inside the passages.
This disaster is like the Astroworld crush in the level of mismanagement and incompetence leading to mass death. It's almost like the organizers and authorities TRIED to create the disaster. It's absolutely horrific that these things are still happening when we ALREADY KNOW what causes it and how to prevent it.
Also, I would like to point out that this was not a "stampede", this was a crowd crush. A stampede is caused by a panicked crowd trying to escape an area, a crowd crush is as it sounds, it happens when too many people are crammed into an inadequate space. Please learn to use the right terminology because describing it as a stampede puts blame on the victims where blame should be on the authorities who approved it.
Blame goes equally on both parties ok! what is the need and desire to rush and not care about those around you? it's callousness on both ends, not jus management alone. get that right!
Not to play the blame game but I'm sure the hard drugs festival goers often take don't help these situations either.
Dickheads bring it on themselves. If there is no way out...why put yourself there? Simple concept. To listen to music? FFS!
This confirmed by the courts.
Try behaving like a modern human, not a panicked sheep.
I grew up in germany and heard about the disaster over the radio just hours after it unfolded. It is very frustrating to know that the victims and the families+friends of those who died never got, and never will get, the justice they deserve. There are some good videos about the families/friends of the victims and their struggle after the Loveparade. They really are worth a watch, if you speak german.
I’ve just heard about the stampede in South Korea that happened a few hours ago
ah yes, German incompetence. i've experienced it firsthand for 2 whole years myself. a true mystery, especially when everyone likes to say that Germany is very efficient when really it's the opposite.
Rainer died few days ago in a plane car
*plane crash
@@flannelpillowcase6475 it depends. Some parts are very organised others could be much better. But i would say that there is a general german inpometence. Greatings from germany
Thank god for being introvert - something like this looks hell on Earth to me. No personal space at all. I like a festival now and then - like Boom festival. But that area is HUGE, and it's in the middle of nature, with like 30.000 people. Hundreds of thousands of people into this tiny area? Madness, absolute madness.
i will never forget this day. RIP to all 21 you will never be forgotten
I have been there and went through the tunnel and ramp two times. Once a few hours before it escalated and then another time just minutes before without realizing what happened shortly after. When passing through the tunnel the second time it was insanely crowded and some idiot ignited handheld flares causing pretty dense smoke in the tunnel.The intersection between ramp and tunnel was insanely crowded and pressure came from every side. This situation must have escalated quickly only a few minutes later.
Some time later on the festival ground itself rumors started spreading that there has been a shooting in the tunnel and police is now closing down the area. The festival kept going and the rumors kept changing. The festival fences towards the railroad tracks were finally removed and I left via a small gravel footpath right next to the tracks until I reached the next train station.
This was also where I heared about the full scale of the tragedy and was greeted by tens of missed calls from worried friends and family who tried to reach me, but could not get calls or messages trough the overloaded mobile network.
I arrived at one of the entries at afternoon, when they would let nobody in anymore. I was a bit sad that I had been to late, but while I walked several miles home I heard passerbys talking about some incident and rising death numbers. I also wasn`t able to call anyone because the network had collapsed. When I arrived home, my parents were quite happy to see me.
I’m so glad both of you were ok. As an avid electronic music lover, I had always wanted to attend the Love Parade from the US. But what happened was horrific.
My mobile network was gone until I was already in the Train back home. I remember the panicking feeling when my phone started to get hundreds of missed calls and like 40 sms. My mom also didn’t know I was there, but my neighbor had me on FB and read out my post about going to Loveparade to my mom. She fainted :( and cried so bad when I finally called her.
Ps. Younger people have no idea how Life without smartphones was. We lost our friends at the entrance and they had our train tickets to go back home. No network, no usage of your phone. One of our friends had an iphone and I asked Somebody in the crowd to use his Blackberry to msg my friend on FB. My friend had 4% battery when he read my Message and they came to the Train Station. I got my First smartphone Right After that.
@@janfg1578 Did you make it to the tunnel entrance next to the supermarket on the right or were you turned away earlier?
@@AlexRian_ I was turned away already at an entry near the city. I dont remember the name of the street, but the tunnel was not visible from there. There were just fences and some policeman arguing with a lot of people who wanted to get through, but the cops said they had already been told to let nobody enter the greater area anymore. I think it was around 3 PM, when authorities decided to make a first break on the inflow.
A later coworker of mine was around the tunnel when it happened, she told me that she and her boyfriend noticed it got more and more crowded till they had trouble breathing. They followed another couple who rammed their way through people with the ellbows and likely got out of there just in time.
This year I visited Parookaville for the first time and will come back for the next. It was the first event where I witnessed zero fights or injuries during the whole time, but the zones before the stages where also a bit too crowded sometimes. Hopefully they will work on that till next year.
why would you try to fight your way into an event when they say they're at capacity and it's likely at a dangerous point
Just natural selection taking place
Easy to say that now. But trying to imagine it , they didn’t signal people were being crushed, full capacity in my eyes means I can jump the fence and be the last person because it won’t make much of a difference. People didn’t know the severity of what was going on untill the crowd defused and people lay dying
These kids didn't see the danger coming! When they where feeling, it could get dangerous, it was too late.... They have been inside! Problem was, that the police made Blockingchains on all 3 ramps. The people who been at these places at tbat time.... Had no way out
Very good question, these clowns didn't bother to ask themselves.
Dickheads bring it on themselves. If there is no way out...why put yourself there? Simple concept. To listen to music? FFS!
This confirmed by the courts.
They could try behaving like a modern humans, not panicked sheep.
I've been there as a security-guy. Still haunts me. Good video! Never forget.
Finally someone talked about it in the English language. I was trying to get some of my Podcasters to see that their "deathly concerts" aren't the only one. I was lucky back then my family member didn't get hurt.
can’t believe the travis scott concert was almost exactly like this. all these poor souls are gone due to organizing and not being able to leave the crowd. rip to everyone who passed and my heart goes out to those who have ptsd
More like due to the idiots in the crowd
same w the recent halloween festival in itaewon
People that listen to that shit music deserve it.
@@scintillam_dei I wish you were there honestly
@@CyberMachine Rap is crap. :-)
Anytime I hear (they added a fence to "control the event") I automatically know that (that boundary is going to cause a serious safety issue
For real, I don't understand the logic behind that?? Doesn't make any sense to me to stop people from leaving
@@CieraMychele right? What is the logic behind "we have too many people here, better keep them trapped in here then". I would have understood if they had closed off entering and only allowed exit but to close it entirely and nor let people leave? There's no logic there.
I have a massive fear of being crushed or squished in a crowd because it happened to my mom at a concert once and she told me how it was the scariest moment in her entire life, being surrounded by people in a crowd and yet feeling completely invisible and not being able to move or even breathe… I can’t imagine the anxiety that would wash over you and every other person around you as well
That sounds so scary to go through! And your mom! I grew up with my mom telling my sister and I how her friends’ 15 year old teenage daughter died after being crushed in a stampede when I think I was about 4 or 5 around 1988 at a concert in Salt Lake City and the salt palace. It was the first death I could comprehend and it scared my sister and I so much. Our whole lives we have avoided and still avoid crowds and have “crowdaphobia” for good reasons I keep learning more too!
Great coverage on this tragedy 🌻
It's always difficult to hear no one being legally held accountable for disasters like this. When there are multiple different factors/parties that cause a situation like this, I wish that multiple people were held accountable (even if only to very minor charges) rather than for everyone to walk away because it always feels like a slap in the face of those who lost loved ones. Just because no one party or decision was deemed the KEY factor that caused a tragedy doesn't mean they weren't A factor.
anyone who likes crowds and concerts, enjoy your free darwin award.
Thanks for the spoilers as soon as I open the video , blood
@@Blox117 Empathy much?
@@leDespicable i only have empathy for people
@@SimonVanliew26 You're the one who checked the comments?? Ofcourse people are talking about the ending of the video in the comments.
As a person who has survived many outdoor music festivals, Id like to remind impatient evil gits to not push people. Participants can only move at whatever capacity they are able to do so in a dense crowd so just stay home if you cant deal with this. Your impatience can kill people.
Crowd crushes are terrifying. If a crush happens right as you're breathing out, your lungs can run out of space to expand and people can suffocate standing up right next to you.
I remember this day so vividly. My mom would take my sister and me to the Love Parade. Especially when it was hosted in Dortmund the year before, there was no chance we could miss it, since we lived there. Luckily, in 2010, she decided not to attend. I was only 6 years old and I still remember so many details. This event was tragic and we were listening to the live reports on the radio. Even the reporters were terrified… Hopefully, these events won’t repeat!
My sister was there and I can remember me and my mum searching a phone booth (since we hadn‘t landline bc of provider change) and we could not reach my sister. My mum had so much panic that she died or is injured. That was really frightening to me seeing my mum cry. Luckily she did not even get to Duisburg because of a train failure or something.
Thank god for the horrible Deutsche Bahn :)
In dem Fall ein Hoch auf die Deutsche Bahn
Your sister was lucky
@@adolfobama3601 Deutsche Bahn be like: "You're welcome, that'll be 200 bucks"
Die gute alte Deutsch Bahn...
I was at a music festival in Germany with about 25,000 people. The festival was mainly outdoors but with two large tents. There was a huge rainstorm and everyone in the festival tried to get into the tents. The one I was in (from before the storm so I was in the middle) probably had a capacity of about 3,000. At first it was just really crowded, but then at some point the crown took on a life of its own, flowing a bit like a liquid, I was lifted of the ground and I weigh 80kg. I grabbed on to the friend I was with and we slowly managed to make our way out. It was very scary how quickly it switched from busy to a crowd crush and very luckily no one was killed.
Oh yes, I remember the event being in the news all over the country ..
I was 12 or 13 when it happened & I was really afraid of big crowds after I heared about this incident .. I feel so so sorry for the people that just wanted to have fun & got injured or even lost their lifes ..
There is an event called Japantag in Germany, in Düsseldorf & there are thousands of people now, a big big crowd that grows every year. For years, I'm afraid that something similar like this will happen again ..
I've always recommended this disaster for channels to cover, and you did a good job. The tragedy is often falsly attributed to a mass panic but that was not the case, those in the back had no idea what was happening on the ramp.
Unfortunately, it's not surprising that no one was found responsible because that's exactly why the tragedy happened in the first place. No one was responsible for managing the flow of visitors in the tunnel and the ramp properly, and the police had no idea what they were doing.
It’s like Hillsborough when the police blamed the fans.
To be clear, it’s the organizers’ and city’s responsibility to handle crowd control, they just didn’t a shit job at it. The police should’ve known a thing or two about crowd control but they evidently didn’t.
Ppl should have been held responsible that way stuff like this could be used a not what not to do
The fact that it’s a free event means there’s gonna be bigger crowds. A million people all crammed into one event like that is a disaster waiting to happen. Rest in peace to the victims.
do you think that other 750k won't be able to breach police's security?
Crowd surges are so scary. Because it is so scary to think that you can "drown" in other people, and that once it happens it seems to be impossible to solve fast.
Even though it sounds like it should be easy to make people move in a controlled manner, but it just isn't.
In my old highschool, when entering the school we had to go through metal detectors and have our bags checked.
The need to have everyone get stuffed in this stupid hallway created overcrowding and I got stuck in the middle, all smooshed up and stuck.
I started losing air and freaking out, but soon I was able to stumble through.
I started coughing and breathing desperately for air and a couple volunteers checked to make sure I was okay. The next day they opened up the area and made it so we could go through in a better entrance section with a higher ceiling.
I only had to deal with that for 20 minutes, imagining that experience for hours with no chance of escaping sounds absolutely horrifying. I swore to stay away from crowds after the experience because of how scary it was… this situation meanwhile is absolutely traumatic.
Omg, what? they didn't even separate the way in and out? That's the absolute most Basic rule of having *any* event, let alone one as huge as this
I know, right. I was wondering why there wasn't dedicated exits. Having the exits and entrances being the same just seems stupid..
As soon as you posted this over 120 dead in a Halloween event in South Korea. Over 100k people filled the streets, crammed in a narrow alley having no way to escape, many went into cardiac arrest on the scene. Very tragic. Just another tragic reminder about over crowding, lack of security, and safety. Same with what happened in Chicago (The E2 stampede) and four days after the chicago tragedy the fire that broke out in Rhode Island nightclub killing 100 people due to people stampeding to the main exit and getting stuck in the blaze. Terrible incidents that could have been prevented if the nightclubs took proper precautions, but they chose profit over people.
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You cant blame everything on the authorities. Ive gone to outdoor concerts where the people who just get there before the headliners hit the stage, think they have every right to be in the front as those who have stood there all day waiting, and push their way to try to get there. These type of idiots also need to be held accountable.
@@susiex6669 but south korea incident, there were many reports that ppl had call authorities and warn the authorities that with these crowd there will be some problem or accident. the earliest call to the authority was at 6pm , 8pm,9pm last call at 10pm but there is no police at all. is only after the incident happen the ambulance and the police came for the recuse .(which is to late)
@@susiex6669 in this case you can. There’s was only one officer in the scene, many reports were ignored warning that a crowd crush could happen. People within a crowd crush have little to no control over the situation so your default and it’s known that people in the surroundings had no idea anything was happening so the default “it’s the victims fault” argument doesn’t hold. These things have been studied for centuries and the solution is simple, good crowd control.
@@susiex6669 this definitely could have been prevented by adequate crowd control measures. This was a case of far less than the bare minimum. And the crowd wasn’t rowdy at all, they weren’t trying to race each other anywhere or push to the front, etc. It was a very narrow alleyway with a sudden steep incline towards the top, which resulted in people falling forward into the most narrow part.
Problem with large or widely anticipated free entry festival is that it's hard to enforce the capacity limit and crowd control, which can lead to such disaster. To all of you out there, be careful when attending such an event, if it looks too crowded, don't be tempted to get closer. Rather stay on the fringe then get squished in the middle or front.
this was such an huge event. I remember my sisters planed to go there but decided against it a few days bevor. I was way to young to go with them but I remember how frightened my mom was. Years later she was still afraid when anyone was going to a festival.
on recent festivals there are just a ton of police officers overseeing the festival. On the recent festival ,,Parookaville“ they had to cancel some dj performances just because they were too afraid of a similar tragedy. The word ,,Loveparade“ was mentioned a lot as a comparison and reason why they had to cancel it. Just everyone knows exactly what ,,Loveparade“ means
Reminded me of Hillsborough when football fans were corraled into one area and 94 of them died
Thanks for covering this. Didn't know anything about it
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Yeah and just like Hillsborough it was mainly the fault of the police. But they get away with everything sadly...
And the seoul crowd crush just now
I know. Watch this on TH-cam and 2 hours later, Seoul happens
@@fallout560 whoa what happened??
I'm from Germany and live in the area. I was 9 years old when the Love Parade- incident happened and let me tell you.. this is one of these moments where everyone still knows exactly what they were doing when the news of the tragedy spread. It was a really big thing here even for years after the incident since stuff like this just doesn't usually happen here.
On that day we were having a barbecue with a lot of people from our horse riding club and it was such a nice and hot day. Some of the older teenage girls there originally planned on going to the love parade but many decided against because they needed helping hands with the barbecue and with the younger children wanting some horse riding lessons. The owner (also a close friend of the family) of the horse I was riding works as a police officer and had a shift that day so she told us she'd join the barbecue a little later. A couple hours after her shift ended there was still no sight of her tho and we started wondering what happened and If she's even coming anymore so my mum wrote her a text message.
Almost immediately and in complete shock she called her back and said that she won't be coming anymore because she's currently standing knee- deep in corpses trying to cover them up and making out potential survivors because there was an accident at the Love Parade..
Before that all of us were completely unaware.. about half an hour later it was broadcasted on radio.. everyone was shocked, some parents there started panicking saying their children are currently there, desperatly trying to reach them somehow. It was truly terrible.
The incident came back to the minds of people a couple of weeks ago here because the organizer Rainer Schaller and his whole family died in a plane crash which was big on the news. Even today many people still blame him for what happened that day writing some real nasty stuff in comment sections under all the news- videos about his and his family's death.
Karma finally went after the guy who got away with murder
Bruh I saw another comment from someone saying they lived in the area and were about to go but ended up being invited to a barbecue too! Did you guys possibly go to the same barbecue lol
@@beverlyarcher546 actually everything was fine until the police came and trapped those people
@@ullimueller609 Yeah pretty much the police are the most responsible for those people dying
@@Yummynomnom123meh meh police bad -🤓
this is the why I love music but I am not a huge fan of concerts, the performances are awesome but the idea of being surrounded by so many people I can't move on my own, kinda terrifies me...I've already been to some but for now, I'm ok, I'll leave the torch to the "younger generation"
I used to live in Duisburg because I was studying my Masters degree. I wanted to go to the Love Parade festival, but as a foreigner, I did not know anyone to go with. On that day, I was planning to go alone. By the time I was ready to leave, I just wanted to know the access points of the event, and then I saw that there were fatalities and that the festival had been cancelled. Terrible news that many people died there.
I don't even know what word to use to describe the feeling of having watched this video a couple hours ago and now getting the news about Seoul...
I was very young when it happened but I remember seeing it from the news everywhere and my parents explaining to me what happened carefully. The tragedy of the 2010 Loveparade is definitely part of German trauma and I want to thank you for covering the topic in a differenciated and respectful manner
In situations like this, when you know there's going to be this many people in an area, why even go?
RIP to the victims and condolences to their loved ones.
Seems like in many of the tragedies that involve officials, there is no guilty party found by the court.
Right ? Yet If you and I ran the event Ricker we'd be in jail.
Bureaucracy at its finest.
I was there. I just barely escaped the fate... when we wanted to go through the tunnels, it was already very very crowded and I said that we should try to enter through a hole in the fence (so that it goes faster). We fought our way along the tracks at the station through bushes and jumped out right in front of the police. They sent us back to the tunnel...when we got back the ambulances were already there & paramedics asked us if we needed a pastor. We saw bodies covered with plastic sheeting... there was only talk of 10 victims. From then on it was just pure chaos... no network to reach anyone; you were sent through the city and directed to the train station to go home, most people had not noticed anything and the atmosphere was absolutely weird. I never entered crowds again after that and was afraid of tunnels for a long time.
Selfish murderer.
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I work at concerts and as much as I love the job, I'm always pretty scared and on the lookout when overcrowding starts to happen. I've seen plenty people pass out in crowds before, none died, thankfully.
I've always hated crowds. But DAMN! !
I just don't understand how these happens. Forget the lack of security or organization, how do people see a huge crowd ahead of them and keep pushing forward.
Thus events are sheep magnets
Exactly my thoughts too!
I did hear about this disaster multiple times/video's. Yet I never saw a docu like video like this one. LOVING THIS VIDEO! Awesome.
Creepy you love it so much, people died. Interesting yes, informative yes, awesome and loving it....ok
@@christianterrill3503 they're talking about how well made the video is in regards to documenting the topic. They don't love the topic they just love the way the video is edited to present and explain the topic.
After my early teens, I just felt uncomfortable in huge crowds. Which is why (maybe luckily?) I never went for the huge events like these. Just the idea of travelling, being so far, and stuck maybe in a crowd for hours/days... no thanks.
We had an infamous concert stampede in my hometown back in the 70's from a The Who concert. My mom said that she almost went to that concert.
Yeah, it was horrible. I watched the vid from Fascinating Horror about it. Thank god your mama didn’t go❤
This is a downright scary coincidence you posted this given what just happened in Itaewon. 😢 Prayers to all affected by these tragedies. Please stay safe everyone.
So glad I’m an introvert. It probably is saving my life.
Me to I hate crowds of people.
Same
Me too
It’s ironic how just one day after this video was uploaded, the stampede in Seoul happened.. I hope that no one has to live through such horror
We need more of these!
In the lights of the terrible events in Seoul today, I thought about the Love Parade crush and the Hillsborough disaster a lot.
My mind always comes back to the hillsborough disaster and Roskilde. It’s so sad that these things will just keep on happening.
the fact that this was posted during the Seoul crush is eery.
It’s for us in Europe to remember that it happened at our backyard too a decade ago
Der Schmerz dieser Tragödie ist heute immer noch zu spüren =/ Mögen jene die es nicht geschafft haben Frieden finden.
I’ll never get tired of the mentality that people have to only see a problem the moment they’re confronted to it. Everyone lives in reaction opposed to prevention and that’s exactly why so many “disasters” are in reality just fake problems that didn’t need to be in the first place
I also have this way of thinking. I completely agree that everyone must think for themselves and not only be waiting to put blame on someone else.
Crazy this video was released while people are getting crushed in Itaewon. We really, really need to take crowd control seriously.
Let me tell you, folks, those who prefer crowds, they're not the wisest, believe me. Not the wisest at all, okay?
I reported on the Loveparade Duisburg in 2010 as a news / event journo. Very good analysis and accurate retrospective according to facts and assessment of German authorities. Thank you for the great video and editing work, respect and regards from Germany. - Susan Ville
Me and my best Friend was actually in a train to the festival in Duisburg.
But when we saw how crowded the Duisburg HBF was, we decided to stay in the train and drive to Düsseldorf to eat some Ramen instead - enjoying the "Japanmeile" how we called it back in my youth.
his was one of my best decisions in my life.
But my mom called me like crazy - becuase like teens are- i forgot to text her about the change of plans. She thought i was in the middle of this chaos.
I actually got informed by her about what happened - i was sitting in the train back home when the news popped up.
i’m 24 and I have been an avid concert goer since I was 12 years old and I’ve experienced so much of this. You literally cannot move or breathe you get so fatigued easily and you’re trapped inside a bunch of people and if you get lower than them you are done for. If you get on the ground, you’re literally dead. Every time I’m in a concert I at least have one panic where I’m thinking. If I hit the ground, I will die and will not be able to breathe or get up again. The waves happen, and it feels like you’re literally in the sea and you have no control of your body. It’s just being flung everywhere.
Love how the city police can say "that's not our zone" when the entire event was inside their city.