The AI historian: A new tool to decipher ancient texts

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
  • The origins of ancient inscriptions are often shrouded in mystery. Writing carved into stone millennia ago can be hard to read and is often missing entire sections of the text. Now a neural network, trained on thousands of existing inscriptions, could help historians figure out when and where a piece of writing comes from - as well as fill in missing words and characters.
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  • @1inchlegendaka.icebrrg156
    @1inchlegendaka.icebrrg156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    My handwriting is the final frontier when it comes to desciphering ancient texts, I am willing to submit a scientific sample for research purposes

    • @mumujibirb
      @mumujibirb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      My handwriting can differ so much that it can be nearly impossible to know that it was written by the same person.

    • @footfault1941
      @footfault1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typing them on notepad app saves me from such kind of problem. Real issues to me are they're incomprehensible when reviewed, hardly clear what were meant when I put them down.

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mumujibirb My handwriting has degraded enormously after decades of non-practice. Then it -has- turned into something entirely different and never seen before after one month of intense application. It became magical.

  • @RicardoBatistaPassos
    @RicardoBatistaPassos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thank you Nature for sharing knowledge through such well made edited videos!

  • @Ristro44
    @Ristro44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's really cool that it gives you multiple options and not just one that's the 'most probable'.

  • @silviaholm3890
    @silviaholm3890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is an excellent tool for everyone who works with inscriptions, I hope it will be extended to other languages and scripts as well!

  • @Nicholas.Tsagkos
    @Nicholas.Tsagkos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kudos to both of you, excellent work and huge offer to the cultural legacy of Greece.

  • @DonatellaNellieFatou
    @DonatellaNellieFatou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great work 👍
    Best wishes to team Ithaca 🌹

  • @joshuapatterson3447
    @joshuapatterson3447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This guy is awesome!!! Yannis needs a show

  • @TheGreatRoja
    @TheGreatRoja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'd love to see this applied to The Dead Sea Scrolls

    • @borbelu
      @borbelu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do I switch to your app?
      That is all

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I must split my response into small parts due to demented TH-cam deleting single comment for inscrutable reasons.

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borbelu 1. It's not @Robert Jackson's app. What makes you think it's his?

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borbelu 2. You can't "switch" to it until you launch it first.

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borbelu 3. TH-cam will delete my comment if I print the address or even mention web search. This is probably why there's no answer to your post. But you can see the address at the top of the screen at 2:18 if you pause the video.

  • @peter.biedermann1756
    @peter.biedermann1756 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely marvellous! Thank you for bringing together the fields of sciences with that of the humanities.

  • @msbudmsbud7593
    @msbudmsbud7593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so cool ! Go for it AI !!

  • @KenDebono
    @KenDebono 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be nice to feed ITHICA the Rongorongo tablet's of Easter Island as well as the Voynich Manuscripts. It would be cool to have a variant of ITHICA to decipher crop circles.

  • @koumospecial
    @koumospecial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is truly amazing 😮!!!! Congrats 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @oldsailor83
    @oldsailor83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating project with lots of potential!
    Can ethaca be fed by image recognition? I feel this will open up great horizons, and not only for greek inscriptions.

  • @danielbruceagra9022
    @danielbruceagra9022 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing that might be interesting is using the IA to identify patterns in the Linear A to solve the minoan language, like, words that come first, grammatic, and other things like that, could be very interresting

  • @rilosvideos877
    @rilosvideos877 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats a great usecase for AI! There are many ancient languages/writing systems still completely undecyphered, like Linear-A and many others. Hope they will be readable some day.

  • @DeepFrydTurd
    @DeepFrydTurd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All you need is a data base full of all the ancient text identify every character then just ask the computer what it says. It's not hard. You see it in captchas all the time. The hardware is the expensive part lol an also the human individuals that will translate every character and the Python and C++ and Java programmer that will make the interface.
    Cloud GPU Azure or Google = ML Hardware
    Hieroglyphs expert translator = PhD
    UX design expert / programmer = converting ML cloud output to App or Software
    Now how to aquire the ancient text and scripts 🧐

  • @railroadmovie
    @railroadmovie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Will she touch the stone?

  • @ihtesham_emon
    @ihtesham_emon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of Deepminds projects are mind-blowing, this not an exception 🔥

  • @jperez7893
    @jperez7893 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the clay tablets from all museums should be photographed and 3d scanned and uploaded for anyone to use and decipher

  • @peterb3181
    @peterb3181 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely fascinating!

  • @punchrobert
    @punchrobert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Borat is in this video cool :)

  • @DeepFrydTurd
    @DeepFrydTurd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How the hell do I get the scripts and hieroglyphs. The rest is easy just need the ancient scroll's

  • @KeepOnThinking
    @KeepOnThinking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe one day AI can finish the rest of this se

  • @armandoperezgutierrez1382
    @armandoperezgutierrez1382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent.

  • @kickassvideos5469
    @kickassvideos5469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    am i wrong or could you not nearly archive the same with simple NLP algorhythms like bag-of-words, word2vec, n-grams etc?!?! with those algorhytms you tell with high proberbility what words are before and after the word "delphi", or what is the missing word, you could also say how the words are related to each other, like king -> male etc.

  • @kingsurya3215
    @kingsurya3215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great news

  • @EyesOfByes
    @EyesOfByes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:34 Well, Googles AI isn't doing a great job transcribing... Delphi became healthy

    • @DonatellaNellieFatou
      @DonatellaNellieFatou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This time the AI got 95% right atleast but
      it can get really funny sometimes

  • @samuelbungo4339
    @samuelbungo4339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love is in the air!

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      By this logic every man and every woman working happily together are destined for love. By extending it to LGBT and beyond, every happy team in the world is destined for love. Such nonsense!

  • @TweakRacer
    @TweakRacer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Next year, Ithaca relegates historians to history. The world does need more baristas.

  • @billbuyers8683
    @billbuyers8683 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if anything more has come of this. Or is it really being used at all?

  • @NataliePhD
    @NataliePhD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Opus magnum et optimum est!

  • @robertlambert5636
    @robertlambert5636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a Beatles collector and thought this would be useful in determining real and fake Beatles signatures and also I think could date to the day

    • @christophzeit6282
      @christophzeit6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think that's how thos works. To create an efficient AI specifically for your purposes it would be necessary to feed specofic data into it, i. e. pretty much every original beatles signature in existence and then also samples from acknowledged fake ones. You would need to include programs that recognize handwriting, especially cursive from different periods of the 20th century and metadata as well. With inscriptions it's a little easier, I think, due to the regularity of the lettering on stone.

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christophzeit6282 He would need to train his own AI specifically. DeepMind's Ithaca is trained for Greek inscriptions _only_ and it doesn't even handle optical recognition, only typed in text.

  • @iamnotpablo
    @iamnotpablo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe you can decipher Meroitic

  • @footfault1941
    @footfault1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Profs. Jones & Langdon would go out of business ......

  • @DonatellaNellieFatou
    @DonatellaNellieFatou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    nice, the auto generated subtitles on TH-cam is able to comprehend what this man was speaking

    • @manamsetty2664
      @manamsetty2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂

    • @jasondoe2596
      @jasondoe2596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He's speaking very clearly, actually.
      Yes, with a _very_ strong Greek accent, but at least his English is correct and well-structured.

  • @seraphpegasus
    @seraphpegasus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this very famous Greek inscription is not in Ithaca's training data set?

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It obviously is. Which kind of defies the point of using it to test it, obviously.

  • @LeanAndMean44
    @LeanAndMean44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The two of them are so cute together.

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plot twist: each is already married. Not with each other. No one predicted it, huh?

  • @viniciusnoyoutube
    @viniciusnoyoutube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great

  • @Sup_ERS_Tar
    @Sup_ERS_Tar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn.

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      >spammy comment
      >verified user
      >user name different from channel name
      >joined 3 months ago
      >blank avatar
      >0 videos
      >144 channel's About page views
      >113,000 subscribers
      New #ElsaGate?

  • @jorgemartinbg
    @jorgemartinbg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why don’t they use this one the scrolls

  • @dhaval1489
    @dhaval1489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Itacha - When a AI phd student tries to impress his history phd student cursh

  • @Blissblizzard
    @Blissblizzard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Borat had an opposite, lawful good of course.
    Seriously, their modesty and enthusiasm is charming.

    • @brexitgreens
      @brexitgreens 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their modesty is understandable, seeing how similar tools have existed 20 years ago on the (now dead) Berlin branch of Tufts Perseus. Albeit using conventional statistics rather than deep learning. Great work though!

  • @deepmindt2811
    @deepmindt2811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DEEPMIND COUOLD BE USED IN CREATING GMO PLANT AND IN FUTURE WE WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM OF FOOD

  • @EdwardUnthank
    @EdwardUnthank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This had to be originated by Google PR. This is just PR speak for applying machine learning (can be done in a day now) to a niche that publishers like Nature would like.

  • @user-cv1jb9xv2p
    @user-cv1jb9xv2p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @anotherplottwist
    @anotherplottwist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Teaching AI all of human history so it won't get the past wrong when we get assimilated. Lololol jk I love AI

  • @iamnotpablo
    @iamnotpablo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this a love story? 🤔

  • @Manithan123
    @Manithan123 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not actually deciphering ancient languages. Instead, it fills in missing text!!

  • @dimitrisbostandas8705
    @dimitrisbostandas8705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm thinking about the #Greek 🇬🇷 #Students future. 🙄😢

  • @macsiah
    @macsiah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AI brought me here

  • @marcusviniciusdoprado7508
    @marcusviniciusdoprado7508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Guy looks like Kramer from Seinfeld

    • @SpartanLeonidas1821
      @SpartanLeonidas1821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy looks like a Greek Lebanese mixed version of Kramer! 🤣

  • @healthcoach1007
    @healthcoach1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your grateful advice. These video tips help me a lot. I think there is much another thing to know about this topic like Health Coach

  • @nicolasmaldonado1428
    @nicolasmaldonado1428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great project. Very valuable to improve our understanding of ancient history. The AI application is remarkable. But I think the real question in everyone's mind is : did they hook up?
    Edit: (I hope they did)

  • @nirvaannaath7358
    @nirvaannaath7358 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @VKSgtSLaughter
    @VKSgtSLaughter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing ideas, well done 👍
    P.S. You make a cute couple. 😁

  • @SolaceEasy
    @SolaceEasy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As we use AI, it uses us.

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, AI is alright but when it come to the study of history and archaeology, nothing even comes close to the accomplishments that may be produced by good old-fashioned natural stupidity.

  • @alinebaruchi1936
    @alinebaruchi1936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uhum

  • @narkelnaru2710
    @narkelnaru2710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 4:27 "Ithaca learns by itself" ..... is just a bad phraseology.
    No automated system learns by itself. There are increasing (and decreasing) weights of probabilities which are applied.
    This kind of misleading turns really ought not be used. But of course, deep learning means something far greater than what was earlier possible is now possible.

    • @user255
      @user255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't know about the implementation of this AI system, but there are AIs that really do learn by themselves. Example some AIs are programmed to make hypotheses and test them. Reinforcement of the weights happen when the hypothesis was tested correct and adjusted when the test fails.
      Another approach is so called dueling AIs, where one AI generates the data and the other AI analyses the data within feedback loop. This is used example in image processing. Example one AI creates fake image and other AI tries to find out whether it is fake or not.

    • @narkelnaru2710
      @narkelnaru2710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user255
      That's called brute force.

    • @user255
      @user255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@narkelnaru2710 No, brute force is kind of exhaustive search. When all you need to do is give reference material, then we can say it is self learning. Whether it is textbook to a child or data to a AI.
      Non self learning AI requires feedback from human and it is not needed with self learning AIs.

    • @narkelnaru2710
      @narkelnaru2710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user255
      The underlying design is STILL running through the solution set. Still brute force.

    • @user255
      @user255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@narkelnaru2710 No. If brute force method does not find a solution, it goes through all possibilities systematically. This does not. It does not operate within set of solutions. It operates within anything, which approaches better fit value. It is semi-stochastic.

  • @Thesecondcomingpodcast
    @Thesecondcomingpodcast 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a distraction from the truth

    • @morgzyy
      @morgzyy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Out of curiosity, what 'truth' are you referring to?

    • @Thesecondcomingpodcast
      @Thesecondcomingpodcast 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@morgzyy one that the Bible is AI. and being that the way those Bible codes have been used is incorrect

    • @billbuyers8683
      @billbuyers8683 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thesecondcomingpodcast what would that even be called. who thinks that?

    • @Thesecondcomingpodcast
      @Thesecondcomingpodcast 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@billbuyers8683 ?

  • @robertsutkowski3170
    @robertsutkowski3170 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AI👎

  • @manamsetty2664
    @manamsetty2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn.

    • @DonatellaNellieFatou
      @DonatellaNellieFatou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hmm looks like a TH-cam bot stole your comment .

    • @manamsetty2664
      @manamsetty2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DonatellaNellieFatou no I'm not a bot you can do a turing test on me 😁

    • @DonatellaNellieFatou
      @DonatellaNellieFatou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manamsetty2664 no.
      You know those '' i have exactly 13999... subscribers'' bots with
      'x', 'l' or 'd' names.
      It stole your comment and posted in the comment section .
      🙃

    • @manamsetty2664
      @manamsetty2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DonatellaNellieFatou aww to bad what was the comment