This is an excellent tool for redressing or for final dressing of an initial fret installation. I have used it on many guitars and also recommended it to others, who have never reported a problem. The single improvement which can be made relates to the abrasives used. I move on to several grades of Micromesh to ensure the frets are really smooth and shiny. This product needs a good independent review. The Thomas-Ginex posting is accurate BUT is by the manufacturer. Edwin's review is OK, but is weakened because a) he sands with the product in a random way b) he uses other tols late on in the process. b) is fine, and I do that also, BUT, it means it is no longer a test of the T-G system, just someone doing a fret dress using T-G as part of the process.
Exactly the same thing I just said above. I've refretted maybe 20 guitars.....it's great to get a fine finish on the frets or take out minor fret marks.....that's it.....you will never get a major fret job expertly level. I do like it for a final sanding with the strings on after the set up.
The only thing this is good for is a fine tune. Been using one for years. It will not do a good leveling if you need to take more then a sliver off the frets. I use it mostly to smooth out the frets with different grade sand papers. It's great for that. You really need a long sanding block to get the frets properly leveled.
Definitely get your point on leveling, a beam is best however the crowning part is very clever but simple. Almost no need for a fret file other than rounding the ends. Man this would make fret maintance way more fast and easy I think I will get one.
+Jhazzie Girl Fret Board Oil is for reconditioning the fret board para hindi mag crack and shrink. Pag linis, I usually use "0000" steel wool, pero meron din daw other commercial products.
They do, but not from first fret installation if considerable flatting is needed. If you are redressing OR you didn't need to do much flatting on an initial installation, they crown fine.
It really works.the way th plate is shaped makes the metal pipe up an down over the frets w the abrasive pad and created a perfect oval shape with a perfect center each time.
Just my personal opinion, I find it hard to use. Most of the time I just do the traditional fret file for crowning and straight wood for leveling. But that is just me, I am not a luthier.
That's how I initially felt about using a dremel and polishing compound versus hand polishing. The rotary tool yields the same results but much faster. Careful hands mandatory. Haven't tried the Thomas Ginex, but I made a tool inspired by it. Wood block with two half cylinders protruding from its bottom face. Excellent tool for rough crowning however I still go in and manually crown each fret to the fine line left by the marker. A tool like this is excellent for when some frets have a much wider land than the others due to being leveled down much more (though a high seated fret like that SHOULD be QC'd). It skips the top land because of the way the tool jumps up and down for each fret, allowing it to remove material without lowering the height of that fret. Any tool meant to fix your guitars can ruin them when in the wrong hands. Hammer and chisel built marble statues.
Yes, that is the instruction on the Thomas Ginex Kit to maintain the correct tension on string and make the neck straight. Please refer to their website to learn more. www.fretrefinishing.com/
Why not just remove the strings, and replace them when you're done with fresh ones? Seems like alot of hassle to dress your freta and keep your old strings
I think the idea is to level under tension, not so much to save the strings. They don't seem to make this very clear, but I've seen other methods that fall under that category and this seems like it may be one.
@@lamborn55 The factory video tells you to tune the guitar one step below 440 in prep for the fret filing. Do you tune the A string a step below 440 or the low E string?
Not so. I have used this kit on many guitars with perfect success. It is not, however, a substitute for proper fingerboard truing and initial fret leveling and crowning. It is great for final dressing or for re-dressing
The reason why I did not remove the strings was part of the procedure to use string tension to straighten the neck. After leveling the frets, I did replaced the strings. Better not to change the strings while leveling because the tools scraped on the strings as well and will damage the new strings if installed earlier.
@@b.cguitarcovers2347 it works for real bro.i use it on all my electric guitars.it crowns the frets beautifully.you may want to polish the frets yourself or use the system.up to you but it crowns them great.ecery time.faster than normal.
This is an excellent tool for redressing or for final dressing of an initial fret installation. I have used it on many guitars and also recommended it to others, who have never reported a problem. The single improvement which can be made relates to the abrasives used. I move on to several grades of Micromesh to ensure the frets are really smooth and shiny. This product needs a good independent review. The Thomas-Ginex posting is accurate BUT is by the manufacturer. Edwin's review is OK, but is weakened because a) he sands with the product in a random way b) he uses other tols late on in the process. b) is fine, and I do that also, BUT, it means it is no longer a test of the T-G system, just someone doing a fret dress using T-G as part of the process.
thank for informative insights on my video.
Exactly the same thing I just said above. I've refretted maybe 20 guitars.....it's great to get a fine finish on the frets or take out minor fret marks.....that's it.....you will never get a major fret job expertly level. I do like it for a final sanding with the strings on after the set up.
The only thing this is good for is a fine tune. Been using one for years. It will not do a good leveling if you need to take more then a sliver off the frets. I use it mostly to smooth out the frets with different grade sand papers. It's great for that. You really need a long sanding block to get the frets properly leveled.
Definitely get your point on leveling, a beam is best however the crowning part is very clever but simple. Almost no need for a fret file other than rounding the ends. Man this would make fret maintance way more fast and easy I think I will get one.
Mr. Edwin, ano pong panglinis s fret board kung walang lemon oil? :)
+Jhazzie Girl Fret Board Oil is for reconditioning the fret board para hindi mag crack and shrink. Pag linis, I usually use "0000" steel wool, pero meron din daw other commercial products.
+Edwin-E Thanks Mr.Edwin for the ideas magkaiba pa pla un :):):) God Bless
Do it work? I have some trouble believing that the frets really get crowned with that method?
+Rince wind I am not satisfied with crowning.
They do, but not from first fret installation if considerable flatting is needed. If you are redressing OR you didn't need to do much flatting on an initial installation, they crown fine.
It really works.the way th plate is shaped makes the metal pipe up an down over the frets w the abrasive pad and created a perfect oval shape with a perfect center each time.
Does this kit really work?
Just my personal opinion, I find it hard to use. Most of the time I just do the traditional fret file for crowning and straight wood for leveling. But that is just me, I am not a luthier.
Yes.i use it on all my guitars.it works great and better than ruining a great guitar.this kit guards against complete ruin.
idol pa request naman o . I'll always love you - michael johnson . thx in advance . godbless :D
+elmerce zulueta Request noted. Thanks.
Any guitar that I deem important to me and even the ones I don’t would never be subjected to that kind of abuse... unreal
That's how I initially felt about using a dremel and polishing compound versus hand polishing. The rotary tool yields the same results but much faster. Careful hands mandatory. Haven't tried the Thomas Ginex, but I made a tool inspired by it. Wood block with two half cylinders protruding from its bottom face. Excellent tool for rough crowning however I still go in and manually crown each fret to the fine line left by the marker. A tool like this is excellent for when some frets have a much wider land than the others due to being leveled down much more (though a high seated fret like that SHOULD be QC'd). It skips the top land because of the way the tool jumps up and down for each fret, allowing it to remove material without lowering the height of that fret. Any tool meant to fix your guitars can ruin them when in the wrong hands. Hammer and chisel built marble statues.
you seriously did that with the strings on? LOL
Yes, that is the instruction on the Thomas Ginex Kit to maintain the correct tension on string and make the neck straight. Please refer to their website to learn more. www.fretrefinishing.com/
yep its designed to be used under tension
Why not just remove the strings, and replace them when you're done with fresh ones? Seems like alot of hassle to dress your freta and keep your old strings
I think the purpose of this is to keep the neck straight by maintaining the string tension.
I think the idea is to level under tension, not so much to save the strings. They don't seem to make this very clear, but I've seen other methods that fall under that category and this seems like it may be one.
@@lamborn55 The factory video tells you to tune the guitar one step below 440 in prep for the fret filing. Do you tune the A string a step below 440 or the low E string?
@@kenr.b.891 The A string will be a below 440. all other strings tuned to that. Like tuning your whole guitar down.
@@mackk123 essentially a half step down due to the rise of the string guides
Do not use this kit, you will ruin your frets.
Not so. I have used this kit on many guitars with perfect success. It is not, however, a substitute for proper fingerboard truing and initial fret leveling and crowning. It is great for final dressing or for re-dressing
It saves you from ruining your frets.
You did it wrong
Take the strings off dude!!! Spending time and money on fileing fret ....buy new strings man those ones arw so used there turning black lol
The reason why I did not remove the strings was part of the procedure to use string tension to straighten the neck. After leveling the frets, I did replaced the strings. Better not to change the strings while leveling because the tools scraped on the strings as well and will damage the new strings if installed earlier.
Edwin-E. Did the kit work well i thought about buying it but the crowning the frets didnt seem look acurate...not sure if i should buy it
I think I prefer the conventional way. Sanding with straight block, then crowning manually by file, or if you have a crowing tool, the better.
@@b.cguitarcovers2347 it works for real bro.i use it on all my electric guitars.it crowns the frets beautifully.you may want to polish the frets yourself or use the system.up to you but it crowns them great.ecery time.faster than normal.
@@b.cguitarcovers2347 oh,and th crowning is very on point and accurate.
I cringed through almost this whole video
aww