Thank you for watching this if you did in it's entirety, this is after all my take & opinion & you're by no means tied to it. I feel like I've provided good criticism of Lahn's current PvE issue on Awakening & the direction it should take.
I think uping the dmg slightly would be a good thing. Wasn't until I hit pen dande caph lvl7 before I felt like I was doing good dmg. Then again, I'm fairly new so I'm more than likely doing something wrong
Played lahn main for like 3 years now.... when i saw the buff my eyes rolled... No stam change... if you engage a fight and fight for like 5 sec you can barely disengage before out of stam... then guess what... most class move faster then us now a day and dont use much stam vs awak lahn... We lack damage and accuracy. So we have to build a high accuracy to not miss... We are squishy as fck... and we dont scale well with evasion nor DR compare to lot of class. I still manage to do well in pvp because i know the class well and i know other class as i played all of them to learn them and how to counter their kit etc. But the fact i played other class also mean.... i know how bad lahn is atm... Personally what i would like to see is. 1. Better stamina management. 2. Maybe been able to use dash on cd even if its not protected. instead of just sidedash. 3. Better accuracy on skill. 4. As Verdict said lower the CD on some skill by like 2 second. 5. maybe its just me haha but bridled despair.... keep the damage.... make it happen faster? but that one mostly a personal take lol I dont want Lahn class to be a top 3 class ever. i just want it to have more potential. And correct the problem that make it lacking at the moment.
nothing pisses me off more than the unit collision especially when u get stuck in a big mob. It was miserable farming at kratuga getting stuck on everything so I made a woosa to farm it (trying to get specific artifacts)
As a Lahn Awak main player, thank you so much for this video! This class is primarily a glass cannon, so due to the lack of survivability (always lacking stamina, it's good that we have a bit of HP regeneration), it should at least hit hard. Of course, I know that there is a common opinion that PvE is Succ, and Awak is primarily for PvP because of good grab, and this means a compromise between PvP security in Awak and PvE efficiency in Succ ;) I'm curious about the opinion of Lahn veterans of both specialties for I myself played only Awak.
only good point about awak Lahn in pvp is the grab, succ is arguably a better class overall since it respects what a Lahn is, awak unfortunately due to many nerfs is in a terrible spot as a glass canon as you said with stamina issues even the hp regen doesn't help much considering everyone just blasts in end game, people rely on evasion to survive blasting damage nowadays but in succ you can comfortably play DR and find out your playstyle making use of the flight mechanics (I'm a player of both of awak and succ for almost 3 years now)
Now that every skill has T3 addons, Flow:Vice CD must be reduced to 6s. and the Flow:Manglar CD to be exact same as Taunting Death cause atm this skill is the highest dmg dealer after Furor. but yes, Lahn has so huge stamina issue that u will be doing nothing but S-block after few movements while everyclass can basically chase you down forever, right behind u.
For pvp i think that the buff maked it worse, we need a fast kd with SA, it can be a BON... but she's lacking of reliables cc's on fights, also her stamina and accuraccy are terribles :(
As for me having played on my succ guardian, trying out awak lahn after so called baffs was just a joke really! Not only could I express my disappointment but also couldn't help laughing when I realized how pathetic she was. And she is puny in PvE even with those "buffs" and it's really frustrating to me as she could've make a good and viable character. PA seem to have made the changes only for the sake of the changes without giving them much of a thought lol. Now I'm thinking about deleting her from the list of my characters as I found her absolutely useless, but who knows maybe one day she'll become something in her awakening stance.
@@VerdictLovesYou that's true, what really makes me sad about awk is that u can't stay all the time using her awk kit, so im thinking to change to another class :/
I'm with you regarding the Lahn's awakening issue, but saying that fixing the 100% skills issue would cost 15 min of developing work... You just messed up there, there are a lot of effort behind everything on this game, and changing an skill interaction is not a simple process of "let's put 5 secs into 3, done" work. It's like if I say that your job is so easy because you just record a 12 minute video and I don't take in consideration the amount of effort you have been working on to make this 12 min video: the planification, reading changes, testing the new skills, the possible re-recordings...
I respectfully disagree because I understand how easy it is to actually do that & it's from having experience in game design plus creating these animations (from my Uni work). These animations once made can be shortened & published in an instant with such little effort you have no idea, it's flat out child's play. A lot of game developers have these "triggers" which function in ways of timestamp, you can shorten them or increase their length. You probably still would not believe me no matter what I say, but yeah... it's a lot easier than you really think & I'd highly advise you to research how animation movements are made in games. It will be harder to add a cancel that shortening the lockout gaps.
@@VerdictLovesYou yeah man, I understand you.. but it's not about shorten the animation, it's about hou about this shortening could impact with the other skills and the teamplay.. It has to be tested with everything, not only shorten the animation and release it :)
Ok fine , i agree witch ur mind in this video . But lahn was at place where she dont even need a buffs when others classes badly need em , if its only pve buff its fine but they also increase shes pvp dmg ots unfair compare to classes wich pne w8 for buff s
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Thank you for watching this if you did in it's entirety, this is after all my take & opinion & you're by no means tied to it. I feel like I've provided good criticism of Lahn's current PvE issue on Awakening & the direction it should take.
Same thoughts. I really did not feel any change to my PvE experience using Lahn.
adding super armor to mangler is a good fix. Could never finish a combo without getting cc'd in pvp. I agree cd should be 6 sec.
As a lahn player i belive lowering the cooldown of flow mangler is the best thing to do to make her kit better, nothing more
I think uping the dmg slightly would be a good thing. Wasn't until I hit pen dande caph lvl7 before I felt like I was doing good dmg. Then again, I'm fairly new so I'm more than likely doing something wrong
@@shadeseph8817 addons my friend. I have a lvl3 caphras dande and 1 comboing mobs at sycraia
Played lahn main for like 3 years now.... when i saw the buff my eyes rolled... No stam change... if you engage a fight and fight for like 5 sec you can barely disengage before out of stam... then guess what... most class move faster then us now a day and dont use much stam vs awak lahn...
We lack damage and accuracy. So we have to build a high accuracy to not miss...
We are squishy as fck... and we dont scale well with evasion nor DR compare to lot of class.
I still manage to do well in pvp because i know the class well and i know other class as i played all of them to learn them and how to counter their kit etc.
But the fact i played other class also mean.... i know how bad lahn is atm...
Personally what i would like to see is.
1. Better stamina management.
2. Maybe been able to use dash on cd even if its not protected. instead of just sidedash.
3. Better accuracy on skill.
4. As Verdict said lower the CD on some skill by like 2 second.
5. maybe its just me haha but bridled despair.... keep the damage.... make it happen faster? but that one mostly a personal take lol
I dont want Lahn class to be a top 3 class ever. i just want it to have more potential.
And correct the problem that make it lacking at the moment.
nothing pisses me off more than the unit collision especially when u get stuck in a big mob. It was miserable farming at kratuga getting stuck on everything so I made a woosa to farm it (trying to get specific artifacts)
As a Lahn Awak main player, thank you so much for this video! This class is primarily a glass cannon, so due to the lack of survivability (always lacking stamina, it's good that we have a bit of HP regeneration), it should at least hit hard. Of course, I know that there is a common opinion that PvE is Succ, and Awak is primarily for PvP because of good grab, and this means a compromise between PvP security in Awak and PvE efficiency in Succ ;) I'm curious about the opinion of Lahn veterans of both specialties for I myself played only Awak.
For PvP awa Lahn barely has any protection tbh
Also less mobility
only good point about awak Lahn in pvp is the grab, succ is arguably a better class overall since it respects what a Lahn is, awak unfortunately due to many nerfs is in a terrible spot as a glass canon as you said with stamina issues even the hp regen doesn't help much considering everyone just blasts in end game, people rely on evasion to survive blasting damage nowadays but in succ you can comfortably play DR and find out your playstyle making use of the flight mechanics (I'm a player of both of awak and succ for almost 3 years now)
Noobie question , if you go awakened lahn , do you loose the long flying ability when you switch to her succession stance?
Hi, yh. Flight is less impressive, but I like awakening better than succession even though I miss the flight.
Now that every skill has T3 addons, Flow:Vice CD must be reduced to 6s. and the Flow:Manglar CD to be exact same as Taunting Death cause atm this skill is the highest dmg dealer after Furor. but yes, Lahn has so huge stamina issue that u will be doing nothing but S-block after few movements while everyclass can basically chase you down forever, right behind u.
Really helpful video. The music is really quite distracting though.
Will do better next time!
Hey at least PA is looking at her, PvE Drak players watch every week pass by with 0 changes despite being the worst PvE class
Tamer still exists, thank you very much :D
tf u mean worst pve class? u seen corsair?
@@lifekrysiss nah corsair is better than drak
every tier list have drakania at a bottom of bottom
have YOU seen corsair 😂 awakening is destroying
worst? skill issue lmao
yeah the buff is not enough compared to other class. i think lahn is just mystic 2.0
For pvp i think that the buff maked it worse, we need a fast kd with SA, it can be a BON... but she's lacking of reliables cc's on fights, also her stamina and accuraccy are terribles :(
You are correct mate, Lahn does not feel her buffs, and plus PA removed our main cc from Mongler ability :( That's really sad story for Lahn players
her mobility alone defines that she's not good in fast grind due to no AoE
I think you should specify it's not lahn as a whole but just the awk spec, I remember you praising succ at gyfin under
Yeah sorry, the title should tell you enough but i will do a better job at not saying just "Lahn"
Thats why I`ve left Lahn and gone for Witch awak/Valk awak/Maegu succ and last but not least Maehwa succ
Weren’t majority of the buffs for pvp?
All abilities were PvX Buffs, Taunting got above 75% increase & it's still not felt
While buffing awa buff succ pvp as well ty PA
the developers argument for lahn buff is purely for PVP. PVE did not go in the calculations
You would expect when an ability's damage is increased by ~70% (TD) that to take effect in PvE, don't you think?
As for me having played on my succ guardian, trying out awak lahn after so called baffs was just a joke really! Not only could I express my disappointment but also couldn't help laughing when I realized how pathetic she was. And she is puny in PvE even with those "buffs" and it's really frustrating to me as she could've make a good and viable character. PA seem to have made the changes only for the sake of the changes without giving them much of a thought lol. Now I'm thinking about deleting her from the list of my characters as I found her absolutely useless, but who knows maybe one day she'll become something in her awakening stance.
Seem to never be happy with characters you play. Just play Berserker.
same thing with awk dk
I've heard NotTheWorst speak about how extremely dependent on Deathblow she is as well
@@VerdictLovesYou that's true, what really makes me sad about awk is that u can't stay all the time using her awk kit, so im thinking to change to another class :/
Tamer awakening controller pc waiting room 🤡
I'm with you regarding the Lahn's awakening issue, but saying that fixing the 100% skills issue would cost 15 min of developing work... You just messed up there, there are a lot of effort behind everything on this game, and changing an skill interaction is not a simple process of "let's put 5 secs into 3, done" work. It's like if I say that your job is so easy because you just record a 12 minute video and I don't take in consideration the amount of effort you have been working on to make this 12 min video: the planification, reading changes, testing the new skills, the possible re-recordings...
I respectfully disagree because I understand how easy it is to actually do that & it's from having experience in game design plus creating these animations (from my Uni work). These animations once made can be shortened & published in an instant with such little effort you have no idea, it's flat out child's play. A lot of game developers have these "triggers" which function in ways of timestamp, you can shorten them or increase their length. You probably still would not believe me no matter what I say, but yeah... it's a lot easier than you really think & I'd highly advise you to research how animation movements are made in games. It will be harder to add a cancel that shortening the lockout gaps.
@@VerdictLovesYou yeah man, I understand you.. but it's not about shorten the animation, it's about hou about this shortening could impact with the other skills and the teamplay.. It has to be tested with everything, not only shorten the animation and release it :)
The most i hated issue lahn awakening his stamina so terrible.
Personally I just want a new dps ability, that and fixing the unit collision and I'd be happy.
Ok fine , i agree witch ur mind in this video . But lahn was at place where she dont even need a buffs when others classes badly need em , if its only pve buff its fine but they also increase shes pvp dmg ots unfair compare to classes wich pne w8 for buff s
lol!
nerf lahn
No