Bizarre Tale Behind the Infamous "Battle of Surfaces"
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Half Grass. Half Clay. One Epic Match. By 2007, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal were fierce rivals and the undisputed best players in the world.. with an interesting twist. Federer was unbeatable on grass, while Nadal could not lose on clay. An idea was proposed to answer one simple question: If Roger and Rafa were able to play a match which allowed both of them their preferred surface, who would win? That idea was soon brought to life, with insane results!
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I really find it fitting that the two overcame their handicaps after they were able to play a side by side comparison of the surfaces. It's one of those unique learning experiences that gives you that missing piece of the puzzle
They pretty much figured it out, clay court player always has the advantage and grass court player's best option is to approach the net. Even if it wasn't crap turf. It's overall gimmicky and likely why it hasn't been replicated
@@Dman9fp It's not gimmicky to learn how a surface influences your game. You still need to wn the game and Federer and Nadal are the best players alive. I'm amazed how little attention this event got, because it's really a once in a lifetime event, perhaps even unique in the history of tennis.
They should’ve had half the audience on one side sitting on chairs and the other on stools
it wouldnt be fair unless the audience also switched sides
That thumbnail is insane
Yeah
The great thumbnails is the reason I got into this channel from the first place
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Crazy that even being an absolute fan of tennis for years didn't even know that this match had happened!
That means you are not absolute tennis fan.
@@pavan-hy3nb Nope, that means I was born in 2000 lol
It was a fever dream
@@pavan-hy3nb If you started following tennis seriously after 2010 or so it's possible you never heard about this. People don't usually bring it up because the court was such a shambles.
@@pavan-hy3nb well, he is an absolute fan now
Damn, if only that grass was in pristine condition, that would be a true spectacle!
This is an amazing, insane sequence of events. First the game goes to the last possible point (after almost being cancelled). Then they each take what they learned from that game to end each other's crazy winstreak on their home court. What an amazing story.
Yeah, it's a crazy idea. Maybe it would have made more sense to have 2 courts side by side and play 2 games on the grass court (1 service game each) and then 2 games on the clay court? This half and half court is weird!!
I never even knew this match happened - and I'm a tennis fan!!
So basically:
Nothing was learned, because they beat each other on the other's preferred surface later on.
No, the players learned how to overcome the differences between the surfaces by feeling the two interact in back to back sets
I feel like this match propelled their skills on each other's respective surfaces which helped them win later
While I think this helps with versatility, this is not a true test becuase one is hitting to surface that is is not preferred, and when that ball returns it is behaving differently than it would be on their preferred surface. As the video says Federer was at a disadvantage as he had the pitfalls of grass with none of the advantages. Where as clay is still slowing down balls and bouncing higher, and Federer's disadvantage is Nadal's advantage.
A better test would have been to play on two different courts. Each Game. Would prob need to change shoes which would be tedious.
@@paulthomas8262 they actually did change shoes between sets already
"Battle of surfaces"
So a.... turf war?
Hahahaha!
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nadal: *i am the king of clay*
federer : *i rule the grass*
djokovic : *i play good tennis*
DjoCovid and i ‘m anti vax
murray: *i’m injured*
Tbh, Djokovic gets several Grand Slams due to injury to Nadal and Federer.
2020 let end his carrier, let's have a covid party
@@Sandyking14 Federer and Nadal got several Grand Slams because Djoković was in school at that time.
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His videos are so fucking entertaining
Wivo also your videos are really cool, but when we see yours we lose what we really want to see I mean we enter in your videos bc of the miniature but we have to see all the video without skipping and usually I don’t fine the scene of the miniature (it’s a recommendation)
Agreed. These videos are second to none
Yeah
Thats what you proud of.. ok
Wait!? The thumbnail wasn't photoshop?
Ikr, i thought it's not a real (exhibition) match
It isn't as crazy as it seems, given the ridiculous PR ops that were to come (the airfield, etc)
That moment when you've just finished a vid about 'The Battle of Surfaces', ready to upload it only to find Cult Tennis has beaten you to it once again...feels bad man
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If it wasn't coordinated, that's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I'll give yours a watch after this one lol
@@samb5358 😂 I was working on a battle of the sexes vid as well when he released his, dropped it to work on this topic lol
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We all know the real battle of the surfaces is putting green grass vs blue clay.
Split it into 4 may be. Grass/clay vs blue lay/hard.
A handicap for both players. Perfect
@@Ramkeev But then the shoes, you need two types of shoes, and if people try to slide, and they cross into another quarter, they can get badly injured.
If the whole point was to see who was better, Federer on grass or Nadal on clay, why the hell did they have them switching ends 🤔
I want to take a moment to appreciate how clear the explanations throughout the video are, making the video really accessible and enjoyable to viewers that may have not watched much tennis, like me.
Amazing work!
How can this explanation possibly be unclear? He's not explaining rocket science.
The fact they won on each others preferred surface the next time is a real lesson in empathy. Even though the court was flawed, they were forced to deal with each other in a way slightly more familiar to them, yet also unlike anything either had ever seen.
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I really wish when fed and rafa retires someone will organize this match again. it will be so satisfying to watch them both just having fun on the surfaces that made them a legend together
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I feel so sorry for Federer, playing in his opponents home ground, on advantage surface to turn into a handicap and to never have a shot at what this was supposed to be again.😭
Ps. I am a Rafa fan.
But the result and experience from it led them to end each other’s streaks later on, which was a win for both players and tennis fanatics.
Just my thought!
It's a handicapped for both of them. It's actually worst for nadal since nadal is worst on grass. Jsut think about it.
@@imtheonehero9305 no it’s definetly worse for Federer. Obviously nadal would be worse on grass either way, but giving Federer the disadvantage while nadal is on his best surface clay gives him a clear advantage
@@imtheonehero9305 mate you literally didn't understand anything from the comment bruh
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@@CULTTENNIS can you make Nadal vs Djokovic battle of surfaces. Hard court vs clay court.
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“Entirely skipping grass court events entirely”
I didnt quite catch that, did he skip them partly or entirely?
He would sometimes not attend grass court tournaments.
partly 😂
@@QianBing it was meant to be a joke!
4:00 "If not entirely skipping grass court events entirely"
this statement is entirely true entirely
The duo just won ATP Awards too. Rafa's speech was so cute!
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The tight win, and then the fact that they ended eachothers streak... Just perfect if you ask me!
I’ve never even been interested in tennis, but I am loving this videos. You’re a great story teller!
The first time i've seen a crazy thumb nail that was actually accurate and in the video
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Another GREAT VIDEO! I knew some of this information but I learned so much more here! Thank you!
That is so awesome. I have heard about this match but didn’t know much about it. Cool to see how it went down.
I'll be honest, I've played tennis once in my life and have probably watch 10 minutes of a game live. But these videos are so well made man that I can't stop watching your content. Keep up the good work!!
I don't watch tennis at all and stumbled upon this video. The editing is REALLY great for a channel this size! Keep it up and keep em comming!!!!
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Did NOT know that! This is really cool. Nice video. What a great rivalry these guys are. Intense competitors.
Not surprised that the grass was bad surface given that it was nadals hometown hosting the match
Well it sounds like it was a bad surface due to incompetence, not bad faith.
@@Minecraftrok999 Well it sounds like a joke flying above your head.
@@skilllessbeast7416 so what's the joke?
You don't know what a joke is?
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I just don't see any joke here and was wondering if there is some key context I'm missing
I have literally never watched a tennis match before yet I'm finding this fascinating
I'm impressed Federer wasn't more upset about losing the part of the event that was supposed to give him an advantage/make the advantages "equal."
One of the best tennis video making channels ever!!!!. You can see how much effort he puts into making each video.
Great job once again! My knowledge of tennis is high enough to really enjoy these videos but low enough that when you make "Donald Young" jokes, I always think you're being serious at first. 😂
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Dude great video!
whats funny is I remember years ago I saw the original videos for battle of the surfaces, I would see the thumbnail with the court being half grass and half clay and would think "nice clickbait" but I never actually clicked the video until recently then I saw it actually happened 😂
What a fantastic rivalry. I really did think that game would decide who was the best in the world. But so glad to see this story have a happy ending. What an excellent pair of gentlemen!
This is brilliant! I play as much as I can and had no idea this ever happened! Thanks guys.
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They should’ve played another match with the court split between grass and clay longwise rather than at the net. That way, each player could hypothetically hit from grass to grass (Roger’s probable preference), or clay to clay (Rafa’s probable preference). The opponent could use that tendency against him, though.
And then play a third match with the court split diagonally...
you can't play on grass with shoes designed for clay and vice versa, so that could never work. But a fun idea
The only problem with this is that clay shoes and grass shoes differ greatly, so there would be a high injury risk.
You are my favorite creator! Awesome video! I've always wanted to learn more about this
Great video! I remember watching this match but I had no idea about the last minute grass change. Makes a lot of sense.
It's simple: I see Cult Tennis and I like.
Lmao why didn’t they just make the court outside for the grass, clay is easier to maintain under short notice
The Spanish
@@shrimpflea the Spanish? It was set up by IMG and an advertising company. The Spanish had nothing to do with it.
@@michelez715 yes they did..they hosted it and built it. IMG and the ad company just promoted, organized and paid for it.
Well done! Many of these type of videos can feel like a drag repeating points over and over.
Not really a tennis fan(or sports in general, have tried to get into baseball as it’s the only one I’ve mildly been interested in, but even then can’t...), so idk why this was recommended to me...
...but it was interesting as hell so I’m glad they did, and the uploader clearly knows his stuff.
Your videos are enjoyable as usual.
Keep it up!! 😁
Btw. changing surface speed in tennis courts are one of the most debated topic over the decade. I think a research in this topic would be good for the viewers.
I was a ballboy at that match 😆😆
Lies xd
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4:07 I laughed way harder than I should
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"entirely skipping grass court tournaments entirely"
5:17 to 5:25 my favorite part of this video. I love it
Appreciate the effort for all these contents! Honestly I didn’t even know much about tennis back then, was only 6 in 2007 😂. Without doubt you’re one of the best tennis content creators on TH-cam
Well done. That was fun to watch. I dont mind tennis but never wouldve searched. Good fan recruitment, team. Cult on, sir.
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Great documentary as always! Can you do a video about what happened to Melanie Oudin
? She had alot of hype and dropped off the face of tennis
Good idea!
The editing in the intro segment is so good bro. Loving your content
Fantastic stuff! Really appreciate all the time and research that goes into these videos. Can’t wait for the next one!
Even when I first saw video of this a couple years ago, I thought it was fake.
This is like an early Christmas gift 🤪
All I want for Christmasssss, is... to make more videos next year!
@@CULTTENNIS all I want for Xmas is for you to hit 100K subs next year
Love your vids man. By any chance can you please do more tales on other rivalries in other sports ? would love to see that
Great video!
"Fvck it, we're combining the courts."
Haha.
Who’s ready for tennis first week of January 2021
You did a great job conveying how ludicrous the idea was.amazing
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Thanks for covering this
With it so close, could he have won if they used the correct type of grass surface?
Maybe
"Specialisations in a unique feature to tennis not found in other sports - court surfaces."
Cricket fans are dying inside hearing that one.
Cricket? sorry what´s that?
(Joke)
Maybe the most intense yet gentlemanly rivalry in the history of sports.
I don't even watch Tennis, let alone enjoy the sport at all, yet I was completely fascinated by this video! Thanks for telling the story & preserving it for future generations :)
I don’t play tennis so no idea if this question makes sense, but: what if one player is good at DEFENDING on grass, up the other player is good at ATTACKING clay? Then the split would mean the grass player gets the full advantage
I get the impression that they took switched sides regularly during the event.
Novak vs Rafa clearly the best rivalry!
Um no, Federer vs Nadal is iconic tennis
@@strikerbowls791 i think those three are greatest GOAT, i mean no one ever played at that level as Djokovic, Nadal and Federer did
Great video and channel. I'm glad I found this. Good work my friend.