The large artificially produced wakes are causing erosion, even in sections of the river that have no homes where vegetation was removed, Champouge Park has had shore line damage. Sewer lines underneath house boats have been broken by wakes from wake boats. Some sections of the Willamette River are too narrow for this type of wake. The wakes do cause erosion. The wakes are so large that they make use of the river by other Oregonians problematic.
The law is a captain is responsible for his or her wake. For the damage or injury caused by that wake. In general, a power craft must maintain a distance of 100 yards away from an oar powered craft, and/or slow to a no wake speed when passing. Look it up.
These wakes are a lot like second-hand smoke. It affects people who did not ask for the wakes or the smoke from someone else. It is fine for anyone to do what they want unless it negatively affects someone else.
I had never thought of this problem before but I can see that the waves generated affect everyone else who is trying to enjoy the river and also its ecosystem. Does regular water skiing cause the same harmful waves?
Regular water skiing generally requires boats that make small wakes. It used to be popular on the Willamette before wakesurfing became popular. I know one resident on the Lower Willamette who is a lifelong water skier but is no longer able to ski on the river. His dock has also suffered serious damage from wakesurfing wakes.
The author of the video should be helped to promote this issue more visibly so that this issue becomes an important incentive to raise awareness of the entire community that frequents this type of aquatic environment and adjacent areas.
Let's have a little peace of mind with these areas and let's look for places that are more resistant to this type of behavior or rethink our way of living on a planet that treats us well by nature, rewarding us with the best there is.
Simply put, the Willamette River (Upper or Lower) is NOT the place for wake-surfing or other high-energy wake-producing sports. Just like we don't allow Formula-1 racing on I5 or land 747's at small local airports, heavy wake boats DO NOT belong on our narrow, busy river. They need to go to large lakes, the Columbia River or off-shore. Fishing has become more & more difficult, public safety is being threatened, shoreline and fragile fish & wildlife habitat is being destroyed, property (docks, ramps, other watercraft) are getting increasingly damaged. Just over the past several years, damage costs for repair, replacement, remediation along the river has exceeded over $879,000 - mostly coming out of the pockets of property owners. The WSIA says “Boat owners are responsible for any damage caused by their operation”. I want to know, where do we send our bill?
What a strange world in which it is necessary to call someone's attention to the consequences of attitudes when you are in command of a vessel. Is there anyone in the world who hasn't thought about the fragility of a system where waves are not a natural phenomenon?
Some years ago residents of Wilsonville, Oregon filed a lawsuit against the state of Oregon and it was mainly to do with Wake creating boats. The lawsuit went to court and wake boats and any method of putting weight on the bow to create a big wake were banned. This was from the 219 bridge Newberg to a bridge in Canby. Guess where the wake boats are now down river and up river causing of the closed area causing havoc with anyone using the river. Some areas of the river are narrow and creates dangerous wakes that impact others on the river. Ski boats don't make as big of a wake but pull skiers at a slower speed plowing through the water. I had someone comment that to not compare ski boats to wake boats. Ski boats aren't the problem. Any time a boat repeatedly goes back and forth with the bow pushing water creates a wake. A boat on plane leaves less wake then a boat half powered plowing through the water. Most people pulling a skier are not at speeds fast enough to get on plane. We were anchored on the Willamette River when ski boats showed up and their wakes started hitting us. Eventually turned the area along the bank to mud. We even had trouble pulling our anchor because of our boat bouncing all over. A number of trips we had to leave because of ski boats showing up and skiing right by us. I also have noticed responsible people ski below us and not by us. Unfortunately a lot of people are very inconsiderate of others and ski right by anchored boats fishing. One trip we were anchored in an area with around ten other boats. A guy with is apparently teenage daughter and her friends pulled a skier right into all the anchored boats. Then did the classic whip around to pick up the skier again. The girl fell three times. I could not believe someone was that big of a jerk. I also talked to a husband and wife that have a nice Bass Boat. They told me a Wake Boat went by them while they were fishing out on the deck of their boat and almost flipped them out of their boat. I have a friend who was fishing with a friend and his son. They had a wake boat put their boat on the bank. They had to get out of their boat and were luckily able to push boat back in the water. Otherwise they would of been in a very bad situation. We fish on bad weather days and when the ski boats show up we stop going. The frustration and dealing with rude inconsiderate people is just too much to deal with. Plus the lawsuit to ban wake boats down river and around Wilsonville has put them where we fish. It is a no contest for anglers dealing with these wake boats or ski boats and other water sports where people are very inconsiderate of others. I realize there are some good people who believe in sharing the river and being considerate of others.
I can confirm this and much more damage that has already happened and cannot repaired - ever. I and my family have lived here since 1973. At that time and since, there have been fishing boats, skiing boats, canoes, kayaks, all manner of other use without destruction of the environment. It's just been these last 5-8 years with the heavy-weighted and ballasted boats that the undercutting of the bank has happened, elimination of the local species, and causing constant turbidity in the water that is unlawful if you're a regular user or property owner. We have lost old-growth timber that dangerously fall into the river when the undercut destroys their root systems. And we can't repair our own property because the laws are more strict and more enforced on us, than those mis-using the Newberg Pool. There are many other places these 6-figure boats can be enjoyed, not at the irreparable cost of the Willamette River Greeway.
I've been on this same river when there are tubers and skiers out having fun.. Similar experience with waves. All boats make waves. Tubes arent even supposed to be pulled faster than 20 mph max, typically the average speed is between 10-16 mph... oh wait, thats the same speed as wakesurfing. Google it yourself. Nobody is pulling their young kids around at 25 mph on plane in a boat.
He isn’t gonna google something that goes against his agenda. Dudes either a paddle boarder or a kayaker, the real issue is that kayakers an paddle boarders can’t handle the waves an have to call it a day. Instead of going a buying an actual boat to enjoy they’d rather complain until no boats are allowed on the river at all.
I am buying a new surf boat this summer. Two of my closest friends are having a big problem with that. One said “your gonna decimate the bluegill population” and the other doesn’t even want to see me and my family over If we chose to stop by on our new boat. Don’t even get me started on all the “price tag critics”. I grew up behind a Prostar 190. It’s been my life’s dream to own a MasterCraft! The Twp. to the east of us has an ordinance of 600ft from shore. Plan on being very respectful keeping my distance. Can’t wait for all the 🖕and 🤬 when we are underway at idle on our way to the sandbar.
Nobody's worried about your wakeboat causing harm because you'll just cancel any wave created by playing your favorite Barbara Streisand from the towers.
I mean I have a MasterCraft and go out on upper and lower it’s all about where you do it and if your careful about surrounding docs and property. Wake boats are just fine as long as they are used correctly and respectfully. And they arnt gonna go anywhere anyways.
Whoever made this video obviously bought the wrong boat go get on your pontoon and go out and have yourself a little picnic with the family..MY NAUTIQUE is the best boat you could ever have you're always going to have a bunch of Karen's complaining keep on surfing as long as you are not in a no-wake Zone LET THEM WAVES ROLL
I have ample experience with wake boats. Basically I think they are a worthless and expensive nuisance. Now, having said that, Captain, ALL boats are legally and financially responsible for their wake. That IS the law. If your intentional wake causes an inexperienced kayaker to tumble and drown, you may be held liable for manslaughter or negligent homicide. Especially if you have passed within the 100 yard exclusion zone of an oar powered craft.
@@Sailor376also you have to prove that wake was from that specific craft. Good luck with that. Kayaks should never ever be on the water with power vessels. the same goes with Standup Paddle boards.
@@ThePeaPodFamily We all have to get along. Using the same logic,, no wake surfing powercraft should be on the water with kayaks or canoes. Who do we forbid? First, there are already 'rules of the road' in place. Over simplified,, sail over power, and oar over sail. The highest and first priority is oar,,,, with several exceptions,, fishing vessels , restricted by draft, restricted by maneuverability, not under command,, downbound,, ,,, etc. So you have a double difficulty and an often valid complaint. The kayak has the right of way over you. Period. But the experienced kayaker will not be out there in an area with lots of wake boats. They have experience, they are smart,,,, the ones that are out there are VERY likely to be new, unskilled, un-knowledgeable. So you have to play nice,, with a newbie who doesn't know how or where to be, little skill with the craft,,, but Oh My,, how that Karen will scream at you. I do not envy you in that case. Me,, I either have the skill to be there and comfortable,,, or I am smart enough,, I ain't goin' out. Where you will find me in complete agreement, kayaks, canoes, row boats, paddle boards ALL must have some skill and be aware of where they have launched their craft. I have paddled my canoe with hundreds of powerboats and hundreds of wake surfers. I am good with a canoe. My only difficulties in that respect have been when a large power boat passes closer than necessary. On Lake Powell, (Mead, Havasu, Mohave, Flaming Gorge, Elwell, Lake Huron, Michigan, Erie,, etc.) as in most cases, power boats are supposed to pass at least 100 yards off,, and /or drop to a no wake speed when passing close. Both work. The jerks that intentionally buzz you,, are just that,, jerks. A GoPro could easily be the proof in a court of law IF something serious were to result from that. But to agree with you again,, that GoPro had better show malicious intent or outright incompetence. In 60 years on the water,, I can think of only two that should have been ticketed or arrested. Just 2 in 60 plus years. Two, out of something less than a million? (I cannot imagine the number is actually that high but several hundred thousand passages? Yeah, no question.) We all use the water,,, we should always cut each other slack.
@@rexrexrex992 Hey Rex, You might want to read the "Navigation Rules ATONS." ,,,, That is , before you go out on the water. There are laws governing water craft of all types, and concerning safe navigation. And that applies to ALL rivers, lakes, streams, oceans,,,, if you are on the water, in the local 2 acre fish pond, you are subject to the US Coast Guard. Allow me to begin your education,,, If you were to run down one of my children, kill or injure them,, aside from governmental enforcement. I would sue and win,, to the point your children and then your grandchildren would have difficulty finding school lunch money. Enforced ignorance would not save you. Know before you go.
I agree that the Willamette River (Upper or Lower) is NOT the place for wake-surfing or other high-energy wake-producing boats. Heavy wake boats DO NOT belong on our narrow, busy river. Fishing has become more & more difficult, public safety is being threatened, shoreline and fragile fish & wildlife habitat is being destroyed. I do not fish the Willamette River during the summer months. It is to dangerous. In addition to the damage to my boat and equipment...
This is a joke. Let's be honest, it's not about protecting the lake from erosion or the environment. What's disgusting is that they're saying the wake boat owners are the rich a$$holes, when the reality of this legislation is that the homeowners are upset that their 20-year-old docks and boat houses require what they deem as premature maintenance due to larger waves than the on-the-water structures were designed to withstand. The people with million-dollar houses are upset that they have to spend a few thousand to maintain their docks and boathouses, and like all people who own homes on a body of water, they feel entitled to dictate how the water is used.
Please stop lumping wakeboarding in with surfing. Wakeboard wakes are smaller and the boat is on plane similar to most ski/ cruise boats. Also wakeboard beginners don’t need a big wake to learn so only the intermediate advanced riders use a larger wakeboard wake.
Burt can you please add my 205v to your list. Its the smallest vdrive ever made (3050lbs)and makes one of the biggest waves I have ever surfed. You can check my channel
Seems silly to limit wake boats. The hull is designed to more shape the wake and displacement/speed produce the amplitude you are worried about. In fact professional wake surfers have used yachts to surf bigger waves. Probably a max weight or speed limit to displacement only if over xxx lbs would be less inflammatory to others and change the wear on the shore more
Agreed. Limiting operating displacement would be good. However, hull geometry plays a major role in the focusing of wave energy, not just the shape. Perhaps having designated wake surf areas would help. Also agreed that big yachts create very large wakes which may damage property and shoreline and ecosystem and thereby generally degrade the quality of the waterway, eventually reducing tourism and property values, and maybe further, appropriate, focused regulation is warranted to help designate proper areas for safe operation of vessels based on measuring and classifying their operational characteristics.
Notice where the "dangerous shoreline overhang" is there is no vegetation to prevent the natural erosion. Looks like it was removed by a property owner. Hmmm?
The large artificially produced wakes are causing erosion, even in sections of the river that have no homes where vegetation was removed, Champouge Park has had shore line damage. Sewer lines underneath house boats have been broken by wakes from wake boats. Some sections of the Willamette River are too narrow for this type of wake. The wakes do cause erosion. The wakes are so large that they make use of the river by other Oregonians problematic.
The law is a captain is responsible for his or her wake. For the damage or injury caused by that wake. In general, a power craft must maintain a distance of 100 yards away from an oar powered craft, and/or slow to a no wake speed when passing. Look it up.
Wakes Kill Lakes, Rivers too.
These wakes are a lot like second-hand smoke. It affects people who did not ask for the wakes or the smoke from someone else.
It is fine for anyone to do what they want unless it negatively affects someone else.
These pieces of shlt have almost destroyed the Rifle Gap res in Rifle Colorado.
I had never thought of this problem before but I can see that the waves generated affect everyone else who is trying to enjoy the river and also its ecosystem. Does regular water skiing cause the same harmful waves?
Regular water skiing generally requires boats that make small wakes. It used to be popular on the Willamette before wakesurfing became popular. I know one resident on the Lower Willamette who is a lifelong water skier but is no longer able to ski on the river. His dock has also suffered serious damage from wakesurfing wakes.
@@bertkrages3999 Our endless search for bigger, faster, more intense. I will never understand. thanks for your clarification.
The author of the video should be helped to promote this issue more visibly so that this issue becomes an important incentive to raise awareness of the entire community that frequents this type of aquatic environment and adjacent areas.
Let's have a little peace of mind with these areas and let's look for places that are more resistant to this type of behavior or rethink our way of living on a planet that treats us well by nature, rewarding us with the best there is.
Simply put, the Willamette River (Upper or Lower) is NOT the place for wake-surfing or other high-energy wake-producing sports. Just like we don't allow Formula-1 racing on I5 or land 747's at small local airports, heavy wake boats DO NOT belong on our narrow, busy river. They need to go to large lakes, the Columbia River or off-shore. Fishing has become more & more difficult, public safety is being threatened, shoreline and fragile fish & wildlife habitat is being destroyed, property (docks, ramps, other watercraft) are getting increasingly damaged. Just over the past several years, damage costs for repair, replacement, remediation along the river has exceeded over $879,000 - mostly coming out of the pockets of property owners. The WSIA says “Boat owners are responsible for any damage caused by their operation”. I want to know, where do we send our bill?
What a strange world in which it is necessary to call someone's attention to the consequences of attitudes when you are in command of a vessel. Is there anyone in the world who hasn't thought about the fragility of a system where waves are not a natural phenomenon?
Wow that looks like some serious stuff sounds like ur gona have to move!
And what do you think happens in a storm ?
I think I found my next surf/camping trip!
Some years ago residents of Wilsonville, Oregon filed a lawsuit against the state of Oregon and it was mainly to do with Wake creating boats. The lawsuit went to court and wake boats and any method of putting weight on the bow to create a big wake were banned. This was from the 219 bridge Newberg to a bridge in Canby. Guess where the wake boats are now down river and up river causing of the closed area causing havoc with anyone using the river. Some areas of the river are narrow and creates dangerous wakes that impact others on the river.
Ski boats don't make as big of a wake but pull skiers at a slower speed plowing through the water. I had someone comment that to not compare ski boats to wake boats. Ski boats aren't the problem. Any time a boat repeatedly goes back and forth with the bow pushing water creates a wake. A boat on plane leaves less wake then a boat half powered plowing through the water. Most people pulling a skier are not at speeds fast enough to get on plane.
We were anchored on the Willamette River when ski boats showed up and their wakes started hitting us. Eventually turned the area along the bank to mud. We even had trouble pulling our anchor because of our boat bouncing all over. A number of trips we had to leave because of ski boats showing up and skiing right by us. I also have noticed responsible people ski below us and not by us. Unfortunately a lot of people are very inconsiderate of others and ski right by anchored boats fishing.
One trip we were anchored in an area with around ten other boats. A guy with is apparently teenage daughter and her friends pulled a skier right into all the anchored boats. Then did the classic whip around to pick up the skier again. The girl fell three times. I could not believe someone was that big of a jerk.
I also talked to a husband and wife that have a nice Bass Boat. They told me a Wake Boat went by them while they were fishing out on the deck of their boat and almost flipped them out of their boat. I have a friend who was fishing with a friend and his son. They had a wake boat put their boat on the bank. They had to get out of their boat and were luckily able to push boat back in the water. Otherwise they would of been in a very bad situation.
We fish on bad weather days and when the ski boats show up we stop going. The frustration and dealing with rude inconsiderate people is just too much to deal with. Plus the lawsuit to ban wake boats down river and around Wilsonville has put them where we fish. It is a no contest for anglers dealing with these wake boats or ski boats and other water sports where people are very inconsiderate of others. I realize there are some good people who believe in sharing the river and being considerate of others.
Get their hull numbers and sue if their is damage. If they violated the no wake area, it will be open and shut
What’s the difference between a surf boat and a 30ft cruiser? I’ll give you a hint. It’s nothing
I can confirm this and much more damage that has already happened and cannot repaired - ever. I and my family have lived here since 1973. At that time and since, there have been fishing boats, skiing boats, canoes, kayaks, all manner of other use without destruction of the environment. It's just been these last 5-8 years with the heavy-weighted and ballasted boats that the undercutting of the bank has happened, elimination of the local species, and causing constant turbidity in the water that is unlawful if you're a regular user or property owner. We have lost old-growth timber that dangerously fall into the river when the undercut destroys their root systems. And we can't repair our own property because the laws are more strict and more enforced on us, than those mis-using the Newberg Pool. There are many other places these 6-figure boats can be enjoyed, not at the irreparable cost of the Willamette River Greeway.
There are also many areas you people can go play too. BAN ALL boats, powered and non powered.
@@toddhewett1027 Well Todd, your wake boat will be to thank for the everything ban.
I’ve seen these same issues on my lakeshore. But you can’t fix stupid.
I've been on this same river when there are tubers and skiers out having fun.. Similar experience with waves. All boats make waves. Tubes arent even supposed to be pulled faster than 20 mph max, typically the average speed is between 10-16 mph... oh wait, thats the same speed as wakesurfing. Google it yourself. Nobody is pulling their young kids around at 25 mph on plane in a boat.
He isn’t gonna google something that goes against his agenda. Dudes either a paddle boarder or a kayaker, the real issue is that kayakers an paddle boarders can’t handle the waves an have to call it a day. Instead of going a buying an actual boat to enjoy they’d rather complain until no boats are allowed on the river at all.
Wakesurfing normally takes place at 9 MPH to 11 MPH
Going half throttle is going to create more wake dumbass
I am buying a new surf boat this summer. Two of my closest friends are having a big problem with that. One said “your gonna decimate the bluegill population” and the other doesn’t even want to see me and my family over If we chose to stop by on our new boat. Don’t even get me started on all the “price tag critics”. I grew up behind a Prostar 190. It’s been my life’s dream to own a MasterCraft! The Twp. to the east of us has an ordinance of 600ft from shore. Plan on being very respectful keeping my distance. Can’t wait for all the 🖕and 🤬 when we are underway at idle on our way to the sandbar.
Nobody's worried about your wakeboat causing harm because you'll just cancel any wave created by playing your favorite Barbara Streisand from the towers.
man i love wakesurfing we have a malibu 23 lsv
Your friends should have stopped being mad for getting a surfboard when you said Mastercraft. That wake won’t hurt anything. 😂
Sounds like you need new friends.
The feelings police are out in force on this non-issue.
I mean I have a MasterCraft and go out on upper and lower it’s all about where you do it and if your careful about surrounding docs and property. Wake boats are just fine as long as they are used correctly and respectfully. And they arnt gonna go anywhere anyways.
Whoever made this video obviously bought the wrong boat go get on your pontoon and go out and have yourself a little picnic with the family..MY NAUTIQUE is the best boat you could ever have you're always going to have a bunch of Karen's complaining keep on surfing as long as you are not in a no-wake Zone LET THEM WAVES ROLL
I have ample experience with wake boats. Basically I think they are a worthless and expensive nuisance. Now, having said that, Captain, ALL boats are legally and financially responsible for their wake. That IS the law. If your intentional wake causes an inexperienced kayaker to tumble and drown, you may be held liable for manslaughter or negligent homicide. Especially if you have passed within the 100 yard exclusion zone of an oar powered craft.
@@Sailor376also you have to prove that wake was from that specific craft. Good luck with that. Kayaks should never ever be on the water with power vessels. the same goes with Standup Paddle boards.
@@ThePeaPodFamily We all have to get along. Using the same logic,, no wake surfing powercraft should be on the water with kayaks or canoes. Who do we forbid? First, there are already 'rules of the road' in place. Over simplified,, sail over power, and oar over sail. The highest and first priority is oar,,,, with several exceptions,, fishing vessels , restricted by draft, restricted by maneuverability, not under command,, downbound,, ,,, etc. So you have a double difficulty and an often valid complaint. The kayak has the right of way over you. Period. But the experienced kayaker will not be out there in an area with lots of wake boats. They have experience, they are smart,,,, the ones that are out there are VERY likely to be new, unskilled, un-knowledgeable. So you have to play nice,, with a newbie who doesn't know how or where to be, little skill with the craft,,, but Oh My,, how that Karen will scream at you. I do not envy you in that case. Me,, I either have the skill to be there and comfortable,,, or I am smart enough,, I ain't goin' out.
Where you will find me in complete agreement, kayaks, canoes, row boats, paddle boards ALL must have some skill and be aware of where they have launched their craft. I have paddled my canoe with hundreds of powerboats and hundreds of wake surfers. I am good with a canoe. My only difficulties in that respect have been when a large power boat passes closer than necessary. On Lake Powell, (Mead, Havasu, Mohave, Flaming Gorge, Elwell, Lake Huron, Michigan, Erie,, etc.) as in most cases, power boats are supposed to pass at least 100 yards off,, and /or drop to a no wake speed when passing close. Both work. The jerks that intentionally buzz you,, are just that,, jerks. A GoPro could easily be the proof in a court of law IF something serious were to result from that. But to agree with you again,, that GoPro had better show malicious intent or outright incompetence.
In 60 years on the water,, I can think of only two that should have been ticketed or arrested. Just 2 in 60 plus years. Two, out of something less than a million? (I cannot imagine the number is actually that high but several hundred thousand passages? Yeah, no question.) We all use the water,,, we should always cut each other slack.
@@Sailor376alsoA kayak only has right of way over a duck. Better go back and check your book.
@@rexrexrex992 Hey Rex, You might want to read the "Navigation Rules ATONS." ,,,, That is , before you go out on the water. There are laws governing water craft of all types, and concerning safe navigation. And that applies to ALL rivers, lakes, streams, oceans,,,, if you are on the water, in the local 2 acre fish pond, you are subject to the US Coast Guard. Allow me to begin your education,,, If you were to run down one of my children, kill or injure them,, aside from governmental enforcement. I would sue and win,, to the point your children and then your grandchildren would have difficulty finding school lunch money. Enforced ignorance would not save you. Know before you go.
Just jealous u can afford one
For 500 million years erosion has been happening to the east coast of north america. All a sudden humans show up and its a problem?
I agree that the Willamette River (Upper or Lower) is NOT the place for wake-surfing or other high-energy wake-producing boats. Heavy wake boats DO NOT belong on our narrow, busy river. Fishing has become more & more difficult, public safety is being threatened, shoreline and fragile fish & wildlife habitat is being destroyed. I do not fish the Willamette River during the summer months. It is to dangerous. In addition to the damage to my boat and equipment...
Thank you for the Buyer’s Guide!
The G23 with 2850# ballast sounds best!
This is a joke. Let's be honest, it's not about protecting the lake from erosion or the environment. What's disgusting is that they're saying the wake boat owners are the rich a$$holes, when the reality of this legislation is that the homeowners are upset that their 20-year-old docks and boat houses require what they deem as premature maintenance due to larger waves than the on-the-water structures were designed to withstand. The people with million-dollar houses are upset that they have to spend a few thousand to maintain their docks and boathouses, and like all people who own homes on a body of water, they feel entitled to dictate how the water is used.
Please stop lumping wakeboarding in with surfing. Wakeboard wakes are smaller and the boat is on plane similar to most ski/ cruise boats. Also wakeboard beginners don’t need a big wake to learn so only the intermediate advanced riders use a larger wakeboard wake.
Burt can you please add my 205v to your list. Its the smallest vdrive ever made (3050lbs)and makes one of the biggest waves I have ever surfed. You can check my channel
mad you dont have a wakeboat i see all i see is someone who wishes they had one
Seems silly to limit wake boats. The hull is designed to more shape the wake and displacement/speed produce the amplitude you are worried about. In fact professional wake surfers have used yachts to surf bigger waves. Probably a max weight or speed limit to displacement only if over xxx lbs would be less inflammatory to others and change the wear on the shore more
Agreed. Limiting operating displacement would be good. However, hull geometry plays a major role in the focusing of wave energy, not just the shape.
Perhaps having designated wake surf areas would help.
Also agreed that big yachts create very large wakes which may damage property and shoreline and ecosystem and thereby generally degrade the quality of the waterway, eventually reducing tourism and property values, and maybe further, appropriate, focused regulation is warranted to help designate proper areas for safe operation of vessels based on measuring and classifying their operational characteristics.
Cry me a river
Honestly just get over it.
Notice where the "dangerous shoreline overhang" is there is no vegetation to prevent the natural erosion. Looks like it was removed by a property owner. Hmmm?
maybe we can generate some power off these explosive waves
Boo hoo cry bout it
Karen
I think I need to take my boat out to this river and make it a regular occasion on the weekends.
Cry more