Thank you for this great video. I love that you showed exactly how to do it and didn't waste 5 minutes of my time telling me what you were going to do, repeating that a couple of times and then going through the (unfortunately) obligatory "smash the like, hit the subscribe, hit the notifications button.... " Thank you for good content without all the garbage that seems to drive youtube right now.
Thanks for listing the torques in the video, seems to be the same on my 99 LGT. Just got some (aftermarket) tie rods and I'm looking forward to using my new torque socket :)
Great video-- I just replaced the pax ITR and boot, now stuck on the driver's side. I can't get the leverage to break free the jam nut... It's soaking in penetrating oil overnight, and I'll try again tomorrow.
Hello, just did this job on my 02 Legacy. Once I removed the boot, quite a bit of oil came out and the rack was covered in oil. Only passengers side though, drivers side was clean. Am I correct in assuming that the rack needs to be refurbished/replaced? I also get very slight knocking sound from it (thought it was the tie rods, but the sound remained after changing them. Do you have to drop the engine in order to get the rack out? Thank you for any info :)
Another great video. I always like to clean parts when i have them off the car, i never could put that old tie rod boot back on like that, i would've had to clean it.
great video, great channel, but any advice resealing the bellow to the rack and pinion? I have mine installed minus that, that was the reason I removed and replaced my outer tie rod, but I can't get the bellow over the rack. I've been at it for hours :E
@@westsideken If you live in the city. I'm probably at least 3 hours (one way) from the nearest store that would have one. I'm planning on using a crow's foot.
@westsideken dude it's probably gonna be easier for me to replace the tie rods than it is to find an auto zone with the piece that fits my inner tie rod 😭
As always man, thank you for all the work and info you provide! I just resealed the top of my rack and pinion on my 09 WRX and now after putting it all back together its leaking out of the driver side tie rod dust boot. I assume there's another seal behind the inner tie rod I can replace? I really don't want to have to replace this rack if I don't have to...
+Ted Seward if you don't have any play in the tie rod, and it's still in good shape, clean it, grease it replace the boot. If it's got play, replace it.
Thanks so much for the video. Just performed inner/outer tie rod replacement on 2008 impreza. Definitely more corrosion due to salty winter roads. Passenger side inner tie rod boot was dry inside, but the driver side inner tie rod boot had more oil inside the boot. Is that normal or is that indicative of other problems?
Hey MrSubaru, thank for another great content. I would like to ask: the inner side of the boot should sit on top of the groove in the steering body right?! Or just stay floating?
Great video, thanks! Do you only recommend genuine Subaru /OEM parts for outer tie rod, or are high quality, aftermarket items such as Moog ES3712 or AC Delco 45A1052 comparable?
Hey Mr. Subaru, I know this is old and there’s a fat chance you’ll see this. But here’s a shot. I’m learning and genuinely don’t have an answer to this question. Most inner tie rods I’ve done don’t have the inner tie rod lock washers or lock pins. Is this a Subaru specific thing? Also are there any sources you can suggest that I can learn more about these locks so I can do the job the right way? A lot of TH-cam videos are more generic than yours. Thanks!
hey you have helped me so many time in the past. Question 01 outback shack in steering wheel found bubble in tire / replaced all 4 tires / still have minor shack it steering wheel not all the time doesn't happen when excel or brake just cruising at any speed any time
What brand of jack stand are you using? Not finding any in local (TX) stores with the deep v-notch for the frame seams like yours has. Learining from all you videos. Keep 'em coming
Same issue up north, used a wide chisel striking down on castle nut to split it in two spots and removed. Bonus, it freed the tie rod which just slipped out.
I have an early subaru impreza wrx newage bugeye. Are the tie rods different for the early ones? I ask because I'm about to do this job and looking at them they appear different. They have 4 bolts on the inner tie rod part. The replacement part doesn't have that.
Need to do this on a 2010 Outback 2.5i. The inner tie rod is not accessible. It's in something of a tunnel that's between the subframe and the transmission mount. Do I really need to lower the subframe to replace the inner tie rod?
My 2002 forester has torn tie rod inner boot , is something to worry about? Or just can put duct tape on it ? It is completely torn off so not covering anything just sitting there.
A dumb question, how does the tab washer add a locking feature? the tabs fit into the machines slots on the inner rod, then you peen over two sides of the washer. It seems like the washer is locked only to the tie rod. Do you ever use MOOG tie rods for subarus? Do you reuse the washer?
I have used MOOG. MOOG is the only acceptable alternative to OE in my opinion. I don't like yo reuse the washers, but I have in a pinch, as long as they aren't too hurt.
hey man I hate to bother you but how far do you have to push that washer on the back of the inner tie rod because I'm trying and the oem inner tool won't fit on now lol
I noticed when on the interstate going at least 70mph any slight right steering movement would cause the wheel to shake similar to an off balance wheel, swapping wheels around made no difference, I also was getting wear on both sides of the tire.
if i have a lot of horizontal play on both front tires but no vertical play, do i need to replace both inner tire rods or outer tire rods? im also considering just replacing them all if i plan on taking it all apart. thoughts?
What’s the best possible way to not lose alignment? I seen another video where he just slid a new boot over a zip lock bag. The only problem for me is that the first clamp is not a hose clamp. So I can’t cut it off. It’s the one like yours in the video. Never took off a tie rod by myself. So I don’t really know how to mess with it. Care to explain just a tad about counting the tie rod as you take them off? So if I’m correct. The lock nut doesn’t matter as you loosened it. It only matters by the turn of the tie rod? I saw that you mark it too? Why do you need to mark it when you’re already counting the turns? Also, where you marked as you moved the lock but away is where the tie rod is suppose to come back to correct? Sorry for asking so much. I just want to do this correctly as I couldn’t find any good source on the forums. Thanks.
+Subaru WRX as you loosen the lock nut, the inner tie rod can turn, when the inner tie rod moves it adjusts the effective length. You need to be aware of this when loosening the jam nut. Basically, as long as you don't move the inner tie rod when you loosen the jam nut, you can count the rotations of the outer to get it close. There's no getting it back bang on, but you can't usually get close enough to not notice.
MrSubaru1387 dammit, sorry for asking so much. I’m trying to do the front passenger. That lock nut is giving me issues. If im looking at it from the outside of the car. Is the jam nut suppose to be turned to the right or left. Can’t seem to break it off.
question on the passenger side tie rod boot is leaking oil, when i tough it oil pours out. This Job might be to much for me but do you have an idea what it is and what would a mechanic charge
what should I do in the situation where the I need to replace passenger side tie rod and my driver side tie rod was replaced last year and I'm unclear of the manufacturer?
I just got my Moog tie rod ends and came trying to find out the same thing. Mine has washers, but they're flat and have tabs on the inside hole. Wild Thing, did you ever get this answered?
It looks like you did reuse the lock washer, am I right about this? Just ordered this part for my 04 L. L. Bean and I Subaru does not provide a new lock washer. I should have known.
MrSubaru1387 With as many subscribers as you have, who i’m sure ask you a lot of questions, you still made time to help me and answer this question...you sir are excellent!! thank you very much!
6years later is probably too late for a comment but I would love to see how a boot is replaced on a gen 4 outback. whole thing is closely surrounded by metal and the boot is not very pliable. I cannot find any content on this anywhere.
Cool, that's what I was gonna do. Took my car in for an alignment today and they wanted $220 to replace just the inners. I understand they need to be paid but come on lol.
I have a 2009 Forester, I'm getting the parts ready. Does that MY use a staking washer? I dont see it on the subaru site: parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_2009_Forester-25L-4AT-X/_54100_6028378/POWER-STEERING-GEAR-BOX-GEAR-BOX/S12-347-02.html
Thank you for this great video. I love that you showed exactly how to do it and didn't waste 5 minutes of my time telling me what you were going to do, repeating that a couple of times and then going through the (unfortunately) obligatory "smash the like, hit the subscribe, hit the notifications button.... " Thank you for good content without all the garbage that seems to drive youtube right now.
A list of tools needed in the descriptions would be amazing!
there's something strangely satisfying about this video, I don't know if it's the close up shots or the little noises
My lupo needs some pipe tool to remove it. Laame
Very well done video. No blurry dark shots like most.
Thank you 👍🏻
@@MrSubaru1387 Mr. Subaru, make a rack and pinion removal/install video please.
It's called ASMR
Really liked the annotation, wish more of these videos would do that
Thanks for another great video! I replaced both inner and outer on both sides of my wife's '01 LL Bean outback (200K miles) today.
+bertmaster2000 awesome! Glad I could help.
Really like your videos. Especially with captions! Very detailed not to leave some stuck! also like on these videos Not much talking
Thank you good sir I'm on my second used Subaru and your repair video has helped me out so much
great video. Almost relaxing without a bunch of over the top narration. I like the instructions also. Great video! #subbed
Thanks for listing the torques in the video, seems to be the same on my 99 LGT. Just got some (aftermarket) tie rods and I'm looking forward to using my new torque socket :)
All I can say is thank you for saving my day!
Great video-- I just replaced the pax ITR and boot, now stuck on the driver's side. I can't get the leverage to break free the jam nut... It's soaking in penetrating oil overnight, and I'll try again tomorrow.
Whoo Hooo just what I needed to see .. Thank you for posting this ..
+Dale Roberts glad to help 👍
Hello, just did this job on my 02 Legacy. Once I removed the boot, quite a bit of oil came out and the rack was covered in oil. Only passengers side though, drivers side was clean. Am I correct in assuming that the rack needs to be refurbished/replaced? I also get very slight knocking sound from it (thought it was the tie rods, but the sound remained after changing them. Do you have to drop the engine in order to get the rack out? Thank you for any info :)
great vid, awesome quality, shows from start to finish. thank you
+Zhao Yun glad to help 👍
brilliant. now I know what the heck my mechanic was talking about. Great video. Thank you.
+KPutubing glad to help. Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍
What kind of clamp did you use on the inner side of the bellows?
Another great video.
I always like to clean parts when i have them off the car, i never could put that old tie rod boot back on like that, i would've had to clean it.
SDBARTENDER1 same here. Every part I come close to must be as clean as it was new.
It would have come off easier if the old rod was clean, too. That's one reason I became an A&P mechanic - I don't like working on dirty equipment.
Beautiful video thank you. All the fat is trimmed off, only the content you need.
great video, great channel, but any advice resealing the bellow to the rack and pinion? I have mine installed minus that, that was the reason I removed and replaced my outer tie rod, but I can't get the bellow over the rack. I've been at it for hours :E
Another video showed to turn the rack to the other extreme and it kind of sucks the bellows over the rack.
@@martinwullschleger7305 which one? i have been trying to this day. i taped it to seal some contaminantes
The video by Matthew Eddy on changing Subaru tie rods posted April 6, 2015
Ive got 217k on the Fozzy, thinking this is whats making it all feel pretty sloppy and noisy up front. thanks again for the vid
Cool tool, any link to it or the size of the end 'foot'? Alternatively, can you use a pipe wrench to remove that inner bit?
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@@MrSubaru1387 Thank you, sir!
Great video, but you don't need that tool. A pair of vice grips work just fine. Just did mine today on a 2000 Legacy (exact same procedure).
Use the right tool for the right job and save your knuckles ...A quote from my dad.
You can rent the tool for free from the auto parts store.
@@westsideken
If you live in the city. I'm probably at least 3 hours (one way) from the nearest store that would have one. I'm planning on using a crow's foot.
@westsideken dude it's probably gonna be easier for me to replace the tie rods than it is to find an auto zone with the piece that fits my inner tie rod 😭
As always man, thank you for all the work and info you provide! I just resealed the top of my rack and pinion on my 09 WRX and now after putting it all back together its leaking out of the driver side tie rod dust boot. I assume there's another seal behind the inner tie rod I can replace? I really don't want to have to replace this rack if I don't have to...
Do I need to replace the tie rod if I just have torn bellow/boot? OR can I just regrease and replace the boot?
+Ted Seward if you don't have any play in the tie rod, and it's still in good shape, clean it, grease it replace the boot. If it's got play, replace it.
Is blue thread locker used when installing new inner and outers? I didn't see and am wondering.
Thanks so much for the video. Just performed inner/outer tie rod replacement on 2008 impreza. Definitely more corrosion due to salty winter roads. Passenger side inner tie rod boot was dry inside, but the driver side inner tie rod boot had more oil inside the boot. Is that normal or is that indicative of other problems?
Dude you are lucky you don't live in the rust belt or Canada like me.
That cotter pin came out too easy!
Awesome video! Where did you purchase the tool used to remove inner tie rod?
Usually ppl just rent them
Where the heck is one supposed to find a new lock washer?
Hey MrSubaru, thank for another great content. I would like to ask: the inner side of the boot should sit on top of the groove in the steering body right?! Or just stay floating?
Great video, thanks! Do you only recommend genuine Subaru /OEM parts for outer tie rod, or are high quality, aftermarket items such as Moog ES3712 or AC Delco 45A1052 comparable?
+Scott LaLiberte I will always go Subaru if I can. However, Moog is the only aftermarket suspension/steering company I really trust.
If you get moog the tie rod won't have the notch for staking the lock washer.
Do u have to use a new lock washer? The store didnt give me one and idk where to get one or if i have to
Hey Mr. Subaru, I know this is old and there’s a fat chance you’ll see this. But here’s a shot.
I’m learning and genuinely don’t have an answer to this question.
Most inner tie rods I’ve done don’t have the inner tie rod lock washers or lock pins. Is this a Subaru specific thing? Also are there any sources you can suggest that I can learn more about these locks so I can do the job the right way? A lot of TH-cam videos are more generic than yours. Thanks!
hey you have helped me so many time in the past. Question 01 outback shack in steering wheel found bubble in tire / replaced all 4 tires / still have minor shack it steering wheel not all the time doesn't happen when excel or brake just cruising at any speed any time
Have you checked the inner outer tie rods? Ball joints? Control arm bushings? Wheel bearings?
MrSubaru1387 trying to figure out how to check each one. Without replacing all.
If you watch my buying a used subaru video and the 2005 sti inspection video I show how to check ball joints and control arm bushings with a prybar.
Tie rods are covered here. Wheel bearing checks are in my wheel bearing videos.
MrSubaru1387 thanks again
Thanks, they were charging me $835 to replace them
Wow! Really??
LMAO WTF
Good job mr.
I love the hammer technique I do the same thing works perfect and won't hurt a thing :)
Спасибо вам за ваши видео!
What happened to clamp on inner rubber boot that connects rack??
Hello would this repair be the same for a Subaru legacy ?
What brand of jack stand are you using? Not finding any in local (TX) stores with the deep v-notch for the frame seams like yours has. Learining from all you videos. Keep 'em coming
They're Torin I think. Got them at Advance Auto Parts or Northern Tool.
Also what was the tie rod tool used in this video? Where can we buy?
It was a rental tool from my local Advance Auto Parts.
Is there any real requirement to adjust all the play from worm gear tight before removal??
Any damage likely to be caused if not??
2004 FSTI …
Who makes that inner tie rod tool and where can I find it?
I believe it was a power built rental from advance auto parts. Lisle has a good one as well.
i'm in the process of doing this now, all of my cotter pins rusted in so tight i couldnt even pound them out with a punch.
Same issue up north, used a wide chisel striking down on castle nut to split it in two spots and removed. Bonus, it freed the tie rod which just slipped out.
I have an early subaru impreza wrx newage bugeye. Are the tie rods different for the early ones? I ask because I'm about to do this job and looking at them they appear different. They have 4 bolts on the inner tie rod part. The replacement part doesn't have that.
Need to do this on a 2010 Outback 2.5i. The inner tie rod is not accessible. It's in something of a tunnel that's between the subframe and the transmission mount. Do I really need to lower the subframe to replace the inner tie rod?
Could I remove the inner without the special tool? I was able to do it on my jeep patriot with a adjustable wrench
Hi mr.subaru, is the inner tie rod tool for subaru are all the same size for all models?
My 2002 forester has torn tie rod inner boot , is something to worry about? Or just can put duct tape on it ? It is completely torn off so not covering anything just sitting there.
i need that TR socket tool.
A dumb question, how does the tab washer add a locking feature? the tabs fit into the machines slots on the inner rod, then you peen over two sides of the washer. It seems like the washer is locked only to the tie rod. Do you ever use MOOG tie rods for subarus? Do you reuse the washer?
I have used MOOG. MOOG is the only acceptable alternative to OE in my opinion. I don't like yo reuse the washers, but I have in a pinch, as long as they aren't too hurt.
EXCELLENT, AWESOME, GREAT JOB. IM OFF TO DO SOME WERK
do you know if the impreza model has the bushings behind the tie rod?
im installing a tie rod end that is not using a castle nut, its using a lock nut, would 20lb/ft torque be teh same.
hey man I hate to bother you but how far do you have to push that washer on the back of the inner tie rod because I'm trying and the oem inner tool won't fit on now lol
How did u find out it was done? I have a noise at an extremely specific turning angle and hoping it not cvs
I noticed when on the interstate going at least 70mph any slight right steering movement would cause the wheel to shake similar to an off balance wheel, swapping wheels around made no difference, I also was getting wear on both sides of the tire.
if i have a lot of horizontal play on both front tires but no vertical play, do i need to replace both inner tire rods or outer tire rods?
im also considering just replacing them all if i plan on taking it all apart. thoughts?
Horizontal play is inner and/or outer tie rods. You should be able to see which has the play.
What’s the best possible way to not lose alignment? I seen another video where he just slid a new boot over a zip lock bag. The only problem for me is that the first clamp is not a hose clamp. So I can’t cut it off. It’s the one like yours in the video. Never took off a tie rod by myself. So I don’t really know how to mess with it. Care to explain just a tad about counting the tie rod as you take them off? So if I’m correct. The lock nut doesn’t matter as you loosened it. It only matters by the turn of the tie rod? I saw that you mark it too? Why do you need to mark it when you’re already counting the turns? Also, where you marked as you moved the lock but away is where the tie rod is suppose to come back to correct? Sorry for asking so much. I just want to do this correctly as I couldn’t find any good source on the forums. Thanks.
+Subaru WRX as you loosen the lock nut, the inner tie rod can turn, when the inner tie rod moves it adjusts the effective length. You need to be aware of this when loosening the jam nut. Basically, as long as you don't move the inner tie rod when you loosen the jam nut, you can count the rotations of the outer to get it close. There's no getting it back bang on, but you can't usually get close enough to not notice.
MrSubaru1387 thanks for replying and clarifying. Appreciate it man.
+Subaru WRX you're welcome.
MrSubaru1387 dammit, sorry for asking so much. I’m trying to do the front passenger. That lock nut is giving me issues. If im looking at it from the outside of the car. Is the jam nut suppose to be turned to the right or left. Can’t seem to break it off.
+Subaru WRX looking down on the lock nut, towards the outer tie rod, it's left to loosen.
Great vid.
+manny pna glad you enjoyed it
question on the passenger side tie rod boot is leaking oil, when i tough it oil pours out. This Job might be to much for me but do you have an idea what it is and what would a mechanic charge
Looks like you need a new steering rack. Not sure on pricing.
Could a tie rod end also be called a steering rack inner joint?
Yes, that would be the inner tie rod.
are you supposed to put grease inside the boot on driver side?
They're pregreased. The boot keeps debris and water out of the joint/grease.
Thank you for making the video. Is a 2005 Outback similar enough to follow along?
Yes.
@@MrSubaru1387 Awesome! Thanks again for the video and thank you for the quick response 😁👍
what should I do in the situation where the I need to replace passenger side tie rod and my driver side tie rod was replaced last year and I'm unclear of the manufacturer?
doesnt matter, when you get the car aligned any differences will be fixed then
i bought a replacement inner tire rod off rock auto. moog brand. did not come with lock washer. is that a problem?
I just got my Moog tie rod ends and came trying to find out the same thing. Mine has washers, but they're flat and have tabs on the inside hole. Wild Thing, did you ever get this answered?
It looks like you did reuse the lock washer, am I right about this? Just ordered this part for my 04 L. L. Bean and I Subaru does not provide a new lock washer. I should have known.
Yes. Reused.
MrSubaru1387 With as many subscribers as you have, who i’m sure ask you a lot of questions, you still made time to help me and answer this question...you sir are excellent!! thank you very much!
what is the size of the tool you use to latch onto the inner tie rod?
Can't remember. Just used the correct fitting with the kit.
Great video, thank you.
Would this be the same procedure for an '01 Forester?
Yes.
MrSubaru1387 Thanks
What size socket did you use for the castle nut?
+Xavier Persaud should be 19mm.
What size is lock washer
List of tools needed please
Is this the same procedure for a 1997?
Basically the same.
6years later is probably too late for a comment but I would love to see how a boot is replaced on a gen 4 outback. whole thing is closely surrounded by metal and the boot is not very pliable. I cannot find any content on this anywhere.
Could this be the reason why I have a grinding noise while slow wheel lock turning? It's annoying
Andy Denial more likely your CV half shafts need replacing.
@@jaredemery6338 :-/
Owner of a 2001 Legacy here. Where's a good place to put the jack stand?
The factory marked locations on the pinch welds are the preferred location.
@@MrSubaru1387 Thank you.
I didn't stake the washer...should I be concerned?
As weather checked as the bellows was, I would have replaced it at the same time.
Where is that inner tie rod tool from?
+CannedPakes rented it from my local Advance Auto Parts.
Cool, that's what I was gonna do. Took my car in for an alignment today and they wanted $220 to replace just the inners. I understand they need to be paid but come on lol.
Thank you ;).
MrSubaru who makes this tie rod tool?
+Michal Domanski this was a loaner tool from Advance Auto Parts.
F*ck, I live in nederland and hire car parts stores don't rent tools thanks
+Michal Domanski should be able to locate on Amazon. If they ship there, that is.
I just order beta tools part number 1566n
+Michal Domanski should do the trick.
I am going to be doing this. Put my Subie over a curb and these cars will chew tires like nothing doing if you don't align them perfectly.
I've a 2012 and I don't have half as much room.
I have a 2009 Forester, I'm getting the parts ready. Does that MY use a staking washer? I dont see it on the subaru site: parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_2009_Forester-25L-4AT-X/_54100_6028378/POWER-STEERING-GEAR-BOX-GEAR-BOX/S12-347-02.html
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that was so easy
He reuses the washer and tells us to get a new one? why
Try doing drivers!!
That boot was looking pretty nasty..
Do people really need to be shown how to do such a simple job? Hilarious.
Why did YOU watch the video? Hilarious.
Videos like these show people who have never done this before (like me) what to expect. It's always nice to start a job knowing as much as possible.
What size is the keeper nut