The Most Intimidating Integral I've Ever Seen

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  • @BriTheMathGuy
    @BriTheMathGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +559

    Beautiful presentation! Love it!

  • @RisetotheEquation
    @RisetotheEquation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Outstanding. Sometimes I wonder who's more impressive: the student who solved the integral or the person who conjured it.

    • @cakesama9770
      @cakesama9770 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely the professor

  • @farukkaya4396
    @farukkaya4396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Arms getting bigger, so is the channel!

  • @victorhernandez-eg7wp
    @victorhernandez-eg7wp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That was so insightful. I have never dealt with an integral like that, but now I am confident that if I ever see one, not to panic. Thank you! I really enjoyed this video.

  • @yousifkhalil9655
    @yousifkhalil9655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Watched to the end, liked, saved to favorite math playlist, already subscribed, there isn't just anything left to do.

    • @shivam5105
      @shivam5105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Become a Putnam fellow

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow thank you so much!

    • @aashsyed1277
      @aashsyed1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BriTheMathGuy me too!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @yohangross5518
    @yohangross5518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    That's a very very beautiful way of solving a particularly intimidating integral, you just won a suscriber

  • @flintsteel2700
    @flintsteel2700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    The echo is a little jarring but nonetheless still a beautiful solution to such an intimidating integral! Good stuff

    • @sujitdey1717
      @sujitdey1717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And i thought i was the one who felt something was different.

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

    • @sujitdey1717
      @sujitdey1717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BriTheMathGuy no problem the math was great as always. Love you and your content. 💙.

  • @MrThrashMan98
    @MrThrashMan98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Watching these videos makes me realize that my hunger for scientific knowledge is still stronger and bigger than my fatigue after a full-time, warehouse-assistant working day.

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We all crave it! Thanks for watching after your tough day!

  • @lucas0m0james
    @lucas0m0james 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Very nice presentation! To be absolutely rigorous though, it'd be nice to mention that each of the series converge for all positive x (ratio test) and that the sum and integral can be interchanged (e.g. tonelli's theorem)

  • @tueur2squall973
    @tueur2squall973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    5:05 why can we do this ? Permute the sum and the integral?
    Is it because the sum is converging uniformly on [0,+infinity] ?

    • @Brollyy349
      @Brollyy349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say dominated convergence theorem, with something like exp(-u+u/2) = exp(-u/2) being the integrable dominant.

    • @Rzko
      @Rzko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The integral of the sum is the sum of the integrals because the integral is a linear function. Then you just put out of the integral the terms that don't have 'u', which means they are constants.

    • @tueur2squall973
      @tueur2squall973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rzko U can do this when Everything is finite , I mean when the sum is finite , but when It's a series (infinite sum) , you need more argument : you need to know if the sum is converging , how it's converging in order to switch the sum with the integral

    • @tueur2squall973
      @tueur2squall973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rzko And yeah Thank you , I did understand the following steps

    • @Rzko
      @Rzko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tueur2squall973 are you sure about that? An infinite sum is just the limit of a partial sum (idk if we say like that in english)

  • @archieharrodine3925
    @archieharrodine3925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That feeling when n factorial cancels

  • @tmsniper9229
    @tmsniper9229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:11 i think swapping the integral and the infinite sum there requires using the dominated convergence theorem(if we think about it rigorously), very good presentation overall

  • @yusufdenli9363
    @yusufdenli9363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That was amazing👏👏 Congratulations

  • @SaidVSMath
    @SaidVSMath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos kick ass man, I want to make ones just like them! I love this fast paced but concise format

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! Best of luck!!

  • @manucitomx
    @manucitomx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow!
    What a great way with words! I love your channel.

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! Have a great day!

  • @kafianan6586
    @kafianan6586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way you explain, makes these intimidating integrals seem easier

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you think so! Have a great day!

  • @kummer45
    @kummer45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The format of black screen, the math in all the details and the clean process with all the steps makes these series of tutorial useful.

  • @thegodoflols
    @thegodoflols 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenomenal!!
    Your way of presenting a problem is mind-blowing.
    Discussing the possible methods in a step, how to start solving it, best approach ...
    Everything illustrates how good you are in math and throws light on the beauty of math

  • @tomkerruish2982
    @tomkerruish2982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The second power series (1 + x²/2² + ...) equals the the Bessel function of the first kind J_0 evaluated at ix, although I don't know how that would be helpful in this problem.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be helpful if you are familiar with the Bessel functions, since they satisfy many integral equations.

  • @mehex9858
    @mehex9858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By looking at that integral, I instantly understood that I would not be able to solve it if I try.
    *And I was not disappointed*

  • @rishavchoudhuri8806
    @rishavchoudhuri8806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscribed!! Brilliant way of solving the integral as well as presenting it. Loved the video!

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are so fun to watch.😃

  • @muse0622
    @muse0622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can explain this integral just one word.
    WOW

  • @aashsyed1277
    @aashsyed1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You did a HARD putnum problem in 6 minutes!
    So impressed !
    I think you are a genius !

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He explained the solution in 6 minutes. No telling how long it took him to find the solution.

    • @aashsyed1277
      @aashsyed1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@magicmulder no but at least he is a genius .........

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aashsyed1277 He is very good, but most math students could solve that one. Genius is rare. Very rare.

  • @maxkempf7687
    @maxkempf7687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a suprisingly beautiful result! Thank you for covering this in a video. :D

  • @aloneworm7
    @aloneworm7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:15 When he said "we still have some exes lingering about' , I felt that

  • @blazedinfernape886
    @blazedinfernape886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Beautiful. I am so proud of myself that I solved it on my own.
    Edit: Okay maybe I didn't solve it completely correct lol I messed up a 2^r and got the answer e instead of sqrt(e)........ that is fine right!?!?!

  • @eduardoduque6288
    @eduardoduque6288 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a tremendous exposition! New subscriber! Thank you for your material! 🌹🔥

  • @diegopablogordillovaras106
    @diegopablogordillovaras106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful problem, and very beautiful answer.
    Using the sum representation of the exponential function and the Gamma function… what a ride haha.
    Love your channel!!

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the first factor I did the following
    pulled out x,
    substituted u=-x^2/2
    For the second factor i have got second order linear differential equation but not with constant coefficients
    xy''+y'-xy=0
    Second factor will probably be Bessel function
    but when we get first factor Gamma function will be helpful

  • @arnavsoni1701
    @arnavsoni1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You really should become a math professor....

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Currently an instructor (no Phd)😅

    • @arnavsoni1701
      @arnavsoni1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BriTheMathGuy great!!!

  • @marble17
    @marble17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:18
    My dirty brain just hears a curse word

  • @dharrshanmahadevan9450
    @dharrshanmahadevan9450 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have no clue what he is talking about but i still love it

  • @aayushsinghsengar7129
    @aayushsinghsengar7129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this goes way beyond advanced level of that pesky JEE

    • @dfsfssdfsdfs3084
      @dfsfssdfsdfs3084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? I thought the advanced JEE was the hardest test

  • @ianbryant
    @ianbryant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that you get into the math immediately

  • @malexmartinez4007
    @malexmartinez4007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The awkward moment when a solution is as pretty as the one presenting it.

  • @purim_sakamoto
    @purim_sakamoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    うおおおお Bravo!!
    めっちゃくちゃわかりやすかったです!!!😍😍😍👍👍👍

  • @majdsaleh_
    @majdsaleh_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You release that you're good at math when u start watching the contents in x2

  • @sicapanjesis3987
    @sicapanjesis3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your presentation of the solution always gets me. My best wishes to you and please please continue

  • @yomonsbuzz4978
    @yomonsbuzz4978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i appreciate this hope that maths will be fun and famous like nothing before once

  • @maximevanderbeken4712
    @maximevanderbeken4712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice proof ! Now you just need to justify swapping the sum and the integral.. as it cannot always be done .

    • @santiago_moralesduarte
      @santiago_moralesduarte 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sum converges to less than e^(u/2)

    • @MatteoDolcin-ye8xm
      @MatteoDolcin-ye8xm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why can't it always be done? In this case isn't it just a constant in the integral? Still learning so I'm genuinely curious

  • @rotsovanvorleak4704
    @rotsovanvorleak4704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such the one of the best teacher ever

  • @djridoo
    @djridoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good video !

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was amazing; thank you so much for sharing!

  • @kinshuksinghania4289
    @kinshuksinghania4289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!! Absolutely marvelous!!

  • @puceno
    @puceno ปีที่แล้ว

    at 3:30 u had a chance to turn that sum into e^2x*sum(n=0,infinity,1/2^2n)

  • @yahav897
    @yahav897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy these videos! Can't wait to start taking higher level maths in uni

  • @manojsurya1005
    @manojsurya1005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤩, it was a crazy integral, it involved power series gamma u sub,I want more integrals like this

  • @거미남자_spidy
    @거미남자_spidy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hmmmm.. that integral can simplify like
    ʃ (1-x*exp(-x^2))*BesselI(0,x) dx
    and BesselI(0,x) is modified Bessel Function of the First kind

  • @braedenlarson9122
    @braedenlarson9122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching *other* people do integrals :)

  • @pamir8232
    @pamir8232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The second part can also be written as (x^n)^2 / ((2^n)^2 * (n!)^2) and we can take the entire term into square like (x^n / 2^n * n!) ^2 which we can write as ((x^n/2^n)/n!)^2 = ((x/2)^n /n!) ^2 so we can put it into e^x form like (e^(x/2))^2 which basically is e^x.

    • @violintegral
      @violintegral ปีที่แล้ว

      You made a mistake. In general, given a sequence a_n, the sum of (a_n)^2 is not equal to (the sum of a_n)^2

  • @Diaming787
    @Diaming787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a Taylor series expansion that expands to the factor of (n!)^2?

  • @lizs004
    @lizs004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great video!

  • @henryginn7490
    @henryginn7490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear so much stuff about the Putnam being ridiculously hard, but every step here was the most obvious thing to do given the current stage. Like it's not something you just scribble down in a hurry, but it's something I imagine most mathematically experienced people could do. Lovely presentation though

  • @axbs4863
    @axbs4863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That worked out so perfectly lmao

  • @ArjunBhanap
    @ArjunBhanap 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible explanation!

  • @Nikolas_Davis
    @Nikolas_Davis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:21, you can't use the same summation variable for the two sums, 2nd one should be 'm', or whatever, but not 'n'.

    • @manateepink9100
      @manateepink9100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong, those aren't nested sums, it's a product of sums, meaning the variable names do not share the same scope and therefore cannot collide.

  • @ashishraje5712
    @ashishraje5712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great u make maths lucid

  • @atrumluminarium
    @atrumluminarium 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was quite an aesthetic one

  • @deekshanaik2438
    @deekshanaik2438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lost track for the first few times but I'm glad I understood this in the end :)

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's a tricky one! :) thanks for watching!

    • @deekshanaik2438
      @deekshanaik2438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BriTheMathGuy yea your vids are quite interesting... Who knew a bio nerd like me would binge math questions some day... Thanks for ur efforts

  • @PixelSergey
    @PixelSergey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This one was very beautiful

  • @theayyoutube7711
    @theayyoutube7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. You have tought me that I really am (x^2)/2

  • @kangmoabel
    @kangmoabel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is sooooo Good ❤❤
    from Ethiopia, Africa

  • @hydropage2855
    @hydropage2855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome

  • @viniciusmoretti
    @viniciusmoretti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You say that to all of them.

  • @quantumgaming9180
    @quantumgaming9180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mathematics always blows up my mind

  • @greengirl4985
    @greengirl4985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Maybe you should make math memes review that would be fun!

  • @adithyar4282
    @adithyar4282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro pls make more videos on putnam integrals .They are really interesting. Thank you in advance

  • @YT-uo7fc
    @YT-uo7fc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why echo?

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

  • @Hinyousha
    @Hinyousha 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you cancel the x, in the same quick step where you cancel the 2^n?? since one of the limits of integration is 0 you would have a 0/0 in x, I'm not sure if it is allowed to cancel out the x there

  • @kummer45
    @kummer45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use double factorials. These are useful.

  • @loshwoof311
    @loshwoof311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool integral, great video:D

  • @nqa1893
    @nqa1893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always awesome like you are :-)

  • @romanoemmanuelle1967
    @romanoemmanuelle1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful!

  • @azurev2258
    @azurev2258 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's crazy how something that looks absolutely nasty like this can simplify down into √e at the end

  • @keldwikchaldain9545
    @keldwikchaldain9545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's with the audio issues?

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

  • @raunak1147
    @raunak1147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the first sum. But was clueless about what to do with (n!)^2...
    Subbing x^2/2=u was brilliant bruh

  • @minecraftherobrine1234
    @minecraftherobrine1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so good

  • @spsubjectparaphrased8377
    @spsubjectparaphrased8377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simplified results are beauty gives extraterrestrial vibes.

  • @iamtrash288
    @iamtrash288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the second series converge on 0 to INF though? I can't really see it because I suck at evaluating them functional series.

    • @umylten4142
      @umylten4142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The second series absolutely converges.
      If I call U(n) = {x^(2n)}/{[2^(2n)]*(n!)^2}, then you have:
      U(n+1)/U(n) = {x^2}/{4(n+1)^2}, which converges to 0 as n -> infinity, for all x in (0, infinity).
      By the ratio test, that series converges.

  • @tornation5609
    @tornation5609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the echo on purpose ?

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had an issue while recording, Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

  • @polychromaa
    @polychromaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any other places where i could find an integral like this with two sums multiplied together in the integrand?

  • @jc008titan
    @jc008titan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:35 HOW CAN THIS APPEAR ON MY RECOMMENDED AFTER I HAVE JUST MISTAKEN EXACTLY THAT THING AT THE TUESDAY TEST!??!?!?!
    THAT EXACT du=x*dx IS where u=(x^2)/2 IS THE EXACT THING I MISSED! I didn't realise x can be written as the derivative of (x^2)/2 at the test and i magically passed it even with that mistake.

  • @scotttidwell262
    @scotttidwell262 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks Bri. What program are you using for the text?

  • @shehnazsalahuddin6053
    @shehnazsalahuddin6053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your videos very much. One tiny suggestion though- can you slow down your speed while explaining such problems. You go very fast, which is problematic to understand what you are saying. I mean, before even I understand the concept you told, you move to another concept.

  • @крл-я1щ
    @крл-я1щ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing!

  • @EssentialsOfMath
    @EssentialsOfMath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, I was able to do this one! Really awesome integral

  • @ashikak5743
    @ashikak5743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Intimidating ❤️

  • @caleb-e3s
    @caleb-e3s 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how do you have the cool summation stuff?great vid btw

  • @frankreashore
    @frankreashore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. Thanks.

  • @daphenomenalz4100
    @daphenomenalz4100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do we always end up at gamma in these types of problems 😂,

  • @ShinySwalot
    @ShinySwalot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It all folds together!

  • @sujalsalgarkar360
    @sujalsalgarkar360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These vedios are really good but I want to a one on some mathematical concepts or theory.

  • @alienbroccoli8296
    @alienbroccoli8296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Satisfying Answer

  • @normanfrancisco2063
    @normanfrancisco2063 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah!!! Mind blown...

  • @mohammedal-haddad2652
    @mohammedal-haddad2652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible!

  • @YourPhysicsSimulator
    @YourPhysicsSimulator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engineer: 👁️👄👁️
    Physicist: It looks like a Taylor series so It must be something related to e^x. And IT cant be a big power
    Mathematician:

  • @ranadanial6668
    @ranadanial6668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @aashsyed1277
    @aashsyed1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so awesome 😎😎😎😎!

    • @tl1989
      @tl1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're litterally everywhere! 🤣🤣

    • @aashsyed1277
      @aashsyed1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tl1989 helooo

    • @tl1989
      @tl1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aashsyed1277 Hiiii!

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are!!