Great video! People stopping at that town with no power, were not going to be able to buy gas either. I sold my F150 to buy a Model Y, After two years I'm still happy with it.
A lot of gas stations have a generator backup for the pumps. I filled up at Costco when they had no power. With an EV you are stuck. Even if there are no gas stations you always go to the next town. Most gas cars can go another 70 miles on the reserve tank. If you are that worried you can carry a gas can in addition.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Most gas stations do not have generators! I know 40 to 50 near me that don't so thats 0 for around Wisconsin. I do electrical for lots of these and they don't have generator interconnection points.
@@keithpvbatt2040 There are thousands of stations that do, including Costco. Everyone is getting backup generators (businesses and homes). There is actually a huge backlog because of high demand. I bet the situation near you changes soon.
Exactly. Most gas stations don’t have backup generators. Also, such power outages are really rare. Not something to take into account in the choice EV vs ICE car. Not for me anyway.
@@paulgoudfrooij6561 if you are in a hurricane state you will probably have generators if it is a branded station. Mom-and-pop type stations can not afford that luxury.
I've been driving my Tesla Model Y for about 2 years and put just over 30,000 miles on it. At least half are roadtrip miles. I went with Tesla mainly because I wanted the ability to roadtrip, otherwise any EV would be fine for a daily commute vehicle. I will say, there are still stretches that require full charging to make it to the next charger or even slowing down a bit. For example, I found myself dealing with a strong headwind in eastern Oklahoma between Fort Smith and OK City. There there were no chargers for the entire 195 miles, I had to go about 65-60 mph in order to arrive with only 2% at the supercharger in OK City - that was with a 30mph headwind. I've done a similar distance in Wyoming, averaging 80mph and still arriving with 14%. Beyond that, having my Model Y has been a very good experience. I have driven it to the top of Pikes Peak, Mount Evans in a snow storm, through multiple high mountain passes on the way to and from ski resorts in Colorado and multiple long road trips. The instant torque is both fun and practical. Especially for the middle of the country, I will say my minivan is a touch better for long roadtrips - for the increased size/room and wide availability of fueling stations. For medium and short range trips, I prefer the Tesla. Of course, the minivan costs a bit more to fuel and it isn't good in the mountains or on icy roads (2WD - Model Y is AWD). My minivan's check engine light came on halfway up Pikes Peak, so never doing that again. Pro tip - 40oz Stanley cups fit very nicely in the cupholders - just pour your drink into that.
Thanks for sharing your experience. That's a ton of road trip miles. I am glad you are still finding the Model Y to be a good road tripper even with a minivan.
Hey ive driven that stretch from okc to fort smith, i know exactly what youre talking about. But what i did was i took a detour and went to tulsa first, thats only 125 miles apart but total distance is of course more but i think it was worth it. I always like playing it safe. I honestly don’t really care that it takes a bit long in my tesla than in a gas vehicle because of all the other advantages. Fun times
I managed to go from Dumont NJ to Crestview FL. for about $75 in our Model Y during the summer time 2023. We started our road trip during the night time, and as we hit our first supercharger, I would specifically checked the route and check for the cheapest chargers during the night time, found a few about 16-30 cents per KW. Took about 14-15hrs to get to Dekalb GA. Slept there, and continued on to FL next day for about 5 hrs. Sure during the day the rates are highest, but honestly always check your route and check the supers charges nearby the ones it already allocated for you. We averaged about 230wh/K which works out to be just under 5 miles/KW. I enjoy crusing so most of my trip was 60mph. Some stretches I took it to 70Mph.
Your comments on being less tired is spot on. My 2000 mi road trip was the least stressful I ever had and for the same reasons you stated. Being less stressed/tired makes you safer as well. Great vid.
100% my 1,060 mile trip to Starbase i drive every launch is so easy in my Y because of FSD beta and getting in a few quick naps while charging. When i take my Outback I have to stop and get a hotel or pull over and sleep for an hour or two.
@@JP-kb4yiThe lane keeping adaptive cruise in my subaru has already been such a game changer. feel pretty good about switching to EV in a couple years though!
@@Cyrribrae I have Subaru Eyesight in my outback. It’s great until I compare it to Teslas FSD Beta. Eyesight isn’t even remotely comparable to FSD Beta. FSD Beta is something you have to experience to really appreciate. It’s not perfect yet but in the past 2 years I’ve been able to experience the system getting better with each update.
@@JP-kb4yi Yea, I can believe it! Just Eyesight has been such a big improvement to what I was doing before. It does feel like if and when I get a Tesla that that upgrade is a must.
I recently completed a round trip from Nashville to Orlando for my daughter's cheer nationals. We rented a van, Chrysler Pacifica eHybrid. It was great. We got it to control the total trip time and the extra space. It was at a significant premium over our Model Y and Model S. In the end, the fastest we traveled in the van with our kids was 11:40 to cover 700 miles. Tesla estimated that the Model Y could have done the trip in just under 12 hours (11:56) and the Model S could have completed it with one less stop at 11:33. Charging would have been around $125. The van rental was $550. If I did it again, I'd probably still take the van for the space, but that's the only real reason. The EV stops would mostly be in the same areas, we even saw one where we stopped to eat in Lake City FL. There is a lot of FUD out there about EVs. I've driven our cars a lot and all over the country. The current generation of Tesla EVs are just great machines that can road trip with little to no issue. The rest of the market is still a work in progress. I've had a Bolt EV and my son still drives it. I don't recommend it for roadtrips at all. 13hrs to get to Chicago from Nashville, it's just awful.
The comment on KY is why if I lived in KY/WV/WY I'd buy a cheap Toyota or Honda hybrid and dedicate a lot more resources to getting renewable energy vs an EV/ With all the coal power in those states the pollution is damn close to on par (and likely hard to overcome with the initial extra CO2 required to build a new EV).
My wife and I did a road trip from Charlotte, NC to Palmsprings, CA in a 2017 Bolt EV with the 66KwH battery. Almost exclusively used EA stations on the way there and back. Franklin's charging spot is a little sketchy at 1am, I originally wanted to sleep for a few hours while there but we just got a charge and left to Clarksville. We did a little over 900 miles our first day driving and took the next two days slow. Around 5500 miles in 2 weeks for $400 in charging cost from EA + a few free charges in different places like the Grand Canyon. Bought the Bolt in August of 2021 with 42k miles on it and now I am up to 150k miles.
That's awesome. This was our first big trip with our dog. I think in the future we may go a little slower and give Hazel more time out of the car. We may not go to 100%, but maybe something like 80% is in our future.
Thanks for a very good and honest video! However, I believe the CO2 emissions for the ICE cars only includes the tailpipe emissions. You should add around 30% extra CO2 on the ICE cars from the production of the fuel itself.
Traveling in an EV definitely made me not mind slowdowns as much. Getting 10-20% extra range due to being stuck in 30 minutes of traffic/side roads almost breaks even in an EV.
@@martinez392 have to disagree on that one. Unless things have changed, I owned a gas station for 12 years - once had a multi-day power outage, tried to use a generator, ended up frying the pump motor, over $1,000 repair. It's possible.... but need a specialized generator. I've never seen or heard of a gas station having a "back up generator" - just not worth trouble and expense.
@dbmiller5881 I don't know where you are from. But where I am from.... most gas stations where I am from have stores. Where they sell drinks, food, coffee, water, ice. You name it, they probably sell it. So, most already here have generators installed.
Most gas stations do not have generators! I know 40 to 50 near me that don't so thats 0 for around Wisconsin. I do electrical for lots of these and they don't have generator interconnection points.@@martinez392
Most gas stations nationwide/worldwide do not. But some do, especially in areas where power goes out a lot. But.. don't forget that also means your internet for processing payments or even finding the open gas station is probably also out. No guarantees one way or the other but "most" is definitely an overstatement @@martinez392
Filling up a gas car (around your home/work and back etc) = about 36 fill ups a year (every 10 days approx). 36 X 10 minutes = 6 hours. Plugging the EV in (at home year round) 5 seconds X 365 days = 30 minutes. I just saved 5.5 hours of my time plugging in my EV. Mic drop :)
@@kennyfordham6208a regular person almost never drives enough in a day to need a supercharger and on the rare occasion that they do it's not especially inconvenient to do so. With non-Tesla EVs it is now but that should change soon.
@@kennyfordham6208The average American commute is 9 miles one way. The average American drives 36 miles a day. 80% of American daily drives are less than 50 miles a day. 99% of Americans drive less than 80 miles a day. The average American on a road trip covers only 400 miles a day, (5 hours of driving) during that 5 hours a single 20 minute stop is sufficient for the model Y to cover the distance. This nonsense about comparing the less convenient .001% of use cases when EVs are more convenient 99.999% of the use cases we do has got to stop. Bottom line, you need to do at least a 3000 mile continuous road trip every year to make the EV less convenient.
I remember stopping in Brinkley myself. There is NOTHING there, and that chinese food place suckssssssss. It looks like a town that was bombed in the great War and it just never recovered.
We enjoyed our trip in the Model 3 more than any trip we have taken in our 4Runner. I find I have to take an extra stop on the first leg to pee quickly at a roadside rest area before we needed to do our first charge. When filling your gas tank you stand and watch, then go inside for snacks and restroom. So the time to stop is actually about the same. Great video.
In response to your conclusion, I definitely think that "total trip time" is where people can be the most deceptive and disingenuous, and in my experience, that goes for BOTH gas car owners and Tesla drivers talking about other EVs. Most often, what gets missed in the discussion is just how much time is spent on the road actually driving versus how much is spent stopped. Even in the "super slow charging" Chevy Bolt EV, I was able to drive 1,100 miles in about 22 hours thanks to open roads and 80 mph freeways. Gas cars can theoretically do 20, 30, or even 40:1 driving to stopping time on a trip, but the driver, passengers, and pets have their own requirements. Even in a gas car, though, the fastest I typically travel is still less than a 10:1 driving to stopped ratio, and I'm looking to have an actual meal every 4 to 5 hours of driving as well as a bathroom/stretch break every 2 to 3 hours. Basically, my ideal EV is one that can consistently travel 200 to 300 miles at freeway speeds between stops that are no more than 30 minutes. So for me, a Tesla would be capable of that on paper, but realistically, the frequency and length of stops wouldn't align with my preferred travel. I ran into the same issue when testing the KIA EV6, though the one strength it had over Teslas was that even though the charging stops were typically 20 minutes or less (I'd often prefer 30ish minutes for meals), it would then be able to travel for another 3 hours before stopping again.
Those are great points. When going over these numbers with friends they definitely were underestimating how long they are stopped. So I asked them to actually track it next trip. Tracking all of the data through TeslaFi has really helped clarify what doing a roadtrip actually looks like. I hope I can reduce the "stopped" time in future trips. But, I also appreciated being out of the car a bit longer while charging. Trying to do everything and then get back in the car within 15 minutes is actually kinda stressful sometimes. I think as a new EV driver I want to "prove" that my car can road trip to my friends and other gas drivers. But it really has made the trips I've taken better in so many other ways than just time spent. Thanks for watching!
@@DataDriven-em1lv If people really only stopped for 5 minutes to gas up, then Bucee's wouldn't exist. It's totally true that people don't understand how road trip gas stops are totally different than refueling near home. Road trip stops mean rummaging around for stuff in the trunk, going inside for the bathroom, buying a Red Bull or coffee, etc. The stats are out there for dwell times at freeway rest stops and the average time stopped just to take a leak is 8-12 minutes. It's well studied by state DOTs and hard to argue with.
EXCELLENT data-driven road trip test and comparison with an ICE vehicle,. Also, the graphic overlays, data tables and visulizations, and the anecodtal feedback helped paint a full picture of your experience. Last, the "OK, walkin to the sunset ... be cool, be cool." closer made me chuckle out loud :)
Loved the video. I like the fact that the power went out to show a real world scenario, and on the ice side the pumps are down as well. The grid down scenario is the great equalizer.
I’ve never experienced any power outages but it definitely happens. Tesla is busy working on this problem via their Megapack battery storage system. This system will also help when the grid is under pressure from high use. It’s going to take several years but it’s nice knowing someone is working on grid concerns.
I've forgotten whether you mentioned having the CCS1 adapter. If so, this trip is one that passes through an area with decent public charging support, but more importantly, the new EVgo stations going in at Pilot/Flying J locations with canopies, trash cans, squeegees, and of course a travel plaza. It might be an interesting contrast in experiences, and a lot of current/former Tesla owners have commented on the difference in the quality and convenience of the site locations. You'd definitely spend more on energy, but the quality of the site might go a long way in offsetting that.
Thanks for watching! I definitely want to check those out. I noticed a lot of them came on plugshare after we had gotten back. I used the CCS1 adapter at Franklin's. Cool charging stops has actually been a fun perk of EV ownership that I didn't expect.
@@DataDriven-em1lv Thanks for documenting your trip! I completely missed that Franklin's wasn't a Supercharger. I was just listening at the time, but that was definitely a cool stop.
Not a stupid question. My understanding is that some have generators and some don't. So places like Florida in a hurricane evacuation where they need gas and the power goes out are more likely to have generators. (www.simplemost.com/gas-stations-pump-without-electricity/) We didn't check the gas stations here specifically for the gas part, but the signs and lights were out because I tried to go get a water. But I do think there were some cars sitting waiting for the power to come back to pump gas. The real win for gas in this specific situation is that there were likely gas stations with power within 25 miles of where we were. There just weren't charges. So when we have more chargers on the road this won't be a "gas advantage" anymore.
@@DataDriven-em1lv Here on the Maine coast about half of gas stations have generators. That is needed because we have bad storms in winter that can knock power out for days. That the gas stations have generators is not a panacea though since when the power it out, the internet is also down so the gas stations can't process credit cards and you can only buy gas with cash or a local check if they know you. In December 2023 we had a storm that knocked power out for 3-8 days depending on where you were and in January we had two storms that knocked power out for 2-3 days each. A couple of years ago we had a bad summer storm that knocked out power locally for 4 days. There is a hotel near us with a Tesla destination charger (level 2 - there are no super chargers here despite this being a BIG tourist destination). I drove past that hotel a number of times during the outage and saw the same two Teslas sitting there for the entire outage.
@@DataDriven-em1lv I've been in Florida during a hurricane. And I can tell that most gas stations DON'T have generators. Their logic being that by the time the hurricane arrives they are out of gas anyway. And I can attest to that. You're not going to find gas anywhere within a 100 miles radius of a major metro area about to be hit that last day or two before it hits. Yet, those that had an EV and solar on their house or at work had no issues. You can look up the solar city in Florida in Babcock Ranch to see for yourselves what happened when the area got hammered by hurricane Ian in 2022. Most of the area was ravaged and had no power for days and even weeks in some locations, but they had power the whole time and even helped rescuers and some unfortunate residents that went over there.
I find while charging it's good to close my eyes for a 20 min nap.... just set the alarm... My ice gets 15 mpg, so driving the ev is considerably less expensive = $ 75 for fuel vs $20 for energy for 300 miles.
I really appreciated this road trip style, explanation, graphics, and total breakdown of time & money. It's exactly the sort of thing that I think about when traveling and it's hard for non-EV owners to really crystalize in their brains the divergence in styles. Rant Time: 90 minutes difference over 1000 miles is basically nothing! People are lying when they say it takes 5 minutes to gas their car up on a road trip. Road trip gas stops are totally different than fueling up near home because you have to use the bathroom, get something out of the trunk, empty garbage, get a Red Bull, etc. Besides, if people really only stopped for 5 mins to gas up, then Bucee's wouldn't exist. Secondly, on a 300 mile drive there's basically no difference between ICE and a modern EV. Driving between Oklahoma City to Waco, TX or Nashville to Athens, GA or Pittsburgh to Detroit, you're gonna have to stop for a nature break anyways which always works out to about 10-15 minutes. It's just in an EV you're getting a charge while emptying your bladder. Distances over 300 miles, ICE vehicles are faster but the stoppage times are separated by mere minutes. People always underestimate just how far 300 miles is and overestimate how often they drive that distance.
I believe in the next 3-10 years we will start seeing a lot of charging stations like Franklins start popping up. Canopy with solar panels, grass/picnick areas/playground/small shops. Something you can easily spend 30 minutes stretching your legs while the car charges. I can't wait to own a Tesla personally. Mostly I'd like it for commuting since i drive roughly 80 miles to and from work.
charging locations vary wildly based on local municipalities IE: POLITICS!! I see those days going away soon as the market increases with full use of the NACS port system. I could be wrong but after 20K roadtrips in a year around the good ol USA that would be my take!
I am currently planning a trip from Vancouver bc Canada to Las Vegas and I was actually blown away that my “fuel” costs would be exactly the same for the trip. I have both a model 3 rwd and a hybrid maverick fwd. We are taking the maverick not because it would take longer (overall we will stop the same interval for breaks and restrooms) but because the variety of places we can choose to stop at will be different. Instead of a Tesla parking lot, we can take it at a viewpoint or place of interest. With the Tesla on our last trip from the Canadian border to the Mexican border, it was always at a supercharger. Mind you there are actually quite a few cool charging stations if you plan you stops, but the fact of the matter is that you are restricted to stopping at specific stations, which makes a return trip via the same route boring and repetitive. EVs have their worst efficiency at high speeds and gas cars are just the opposite. Decision, buy both a ev and an efficient hybrid and you are set! Great video!
Did you say what your driving speed was or the ambient temperature? I question your 2.64mi/KWh as being low. In hilly cross country trips I get 3.7mi/KWh in a Model S in the summer months averaging on AutoPilot at 75mph. If I set the speed to 65mph I get 4mi/KWh. Nice I also get free Supercharging too.
I have a Bolt EUV and a Volt and I was a little surprised by how much it cost for you to take the Tesla. I am not trying to be critical. I actually think it is worth it because it was almost as fast as a gas vehicle. I have been thinking one of the reasons I might take the Bolt when I am not in a hurry and deal with the painfully slow charging is that it would be cheaper but I can make our 900 mile trip to my family in the Volt for about $75 in gas and electric. I am sure I will still take the Bolt at least once to try it as it is so comfortable and Super Cruise would make the drive.so much easier. Long stops really are not an issue for me as even in a gas car, it seems to take forever to get my family in and out of the car when we stop. At least with the Bolt I will have. a reason to sit there and wait.
Excellent data driven video. Was very much looking forward to purchasing a Model Y, but due to mostly traveling with it, bought Rav4 Hybrid instead. Rav4 was 15K cheaper than Model Y. Current cost per mile is .092 based on average price per gallon of $3.30. I also own a 21 Corolla Hybrid which has a cost per mile of .063 with same price per gallon as Rav4. I have an App on my phone that keeps track of all my fuel costs for my cars.
I feel lucky that I live on an island. I don't think I've ever driven more than 300 miles a day and I was dangerously tired by the end. My bladder needs emptying every 100 miles which forces me to take regular breaks these days. Last time I witnessed a power cut was in 1973. Different world obviously.
Electric vehicles are pretty cool, but as a New Yorker I don’t think we’re ready for that type of infrastructure there’s not enough charging stations here unfortunately but as soon as they get it going, I’ll definitely get myself an Eevee
For the Prius's cost analysis, does that also include having it's battery fully charged to increase the car's MPG? If so you'd have to stop to charge on Level 2 chargers a LOT to make sure you're getting the best MPG possible.
Thanks for some real world numbers. Also nice that you included Prius numbers. Too many videos I see only include a gas car that gets under 30 mpg. I have a 21 Prius Prime and I generally get over 60 mpg on road trips. This car fits my use case and was so much cheaper compared to an EV when I bought it. I continue to watch the EV market. Will I get an EV ? Maybe but it might be awhile.
Hybrid Prius or a Hyundai ionic is the way to go. 50-60mpg and you don’t have to stroke out from the stress of not being able to reach a charger in time.
Nice Video...Do you have a Long Range or RWD Model Y?...Im deciding between both of them...I do pretty much 90% City and Maybe 1 rode trip a year...Leaning toward the RWD and save $5K
28:33 - road trip charging costs are 15x more expensive for me…$0.03/kwh at home, and my anecdotal observed average supercharger cost is about $0.43/kwh.
I made a similar trip in my 2018 Jeep Renegade and I it cost me same as your charging cost. I don't see the advantage, there was never issue getting fueled up.
Based on $2.60/g my 2012 GMC Yukon would cost ~$125 - $135 for that trip. Interesting to compare. Was good to see how a Tesla can make such a trip reasonably well. I'd be interested to see if a non-Tesla EV would fare as well. I suspect it would not. Nice job on the video, new sub! (I'm from Louisville as well btw)
I own a Y also and my friend owns a Mach E. This past summer we road tripped both and my friend said he would never road trip his Mach E again. The problem wasn’t the car rather the charging infrastructure. He had so many locations that had broken chargers or they pulled half the power. It really is upsetting because most of the bad reputation EV’s gets is charging while road tripping. On the bright side, Tesla is gradually opening up its network to none Tesla’s so hopefully that experience changes for none Tesla EV’s
@@Paul-cj1wb I really wish the rest of the auto manufacturers would help Tesla build out the supper charging network. If they did, consumers are the ultimate winners because it would take half the time to have a solid nationwide charging infrastructure.
Interesting. I was just doing the maths. My most economical ICE car was also the best and most comfortable for a long drive. A 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis ordered with the 5.8 litre (351) V8 and the towing package. Highway fuel consumption was 34 miles to the US gallon. Wirh the size of the tank, one fill aling the way eould have done the trick. Gas would have cost under $100 each way. That one was wrecked in a crash. Im looking for another.
Great video! Hazel is so patient.😊 BTW, you can vote for the next Tesla SC location, you know?! Just cast your vote for the best 5 locations that you wish. Good luck!🍀
Not sure how you are calculating CO2. But remember, gas doesn’t magically appear at the station. Gas has to be refined (using electricity that could just go into a car), transported, stored, transported again, pumped using electricity, then finally goes into a car. So before you even pull off after a full up you have already emitted CO2. Then add that number to what comes out of the tail pipe
Great vid . You did Franklin great job . seen this location on a Kyle ( out of spec vid). And second , the info and detail , you do even a better job than Kyle . You do the effort for Europeans. Keep up the good work. 👍
That's great, I think a big factor here was just how cheap gas was on this trip. I would be interested to hear your comparison. Like distance, cost for electricity and the cost of gas.
Jeez! Your model Y only got 24mpg equivalent! My 2001 Ford Ranger extended cab gets 23 on the Interstate with a 3-liter V6. My wife's Ford Maverick hybrid gets 54 mpg on the interstate. If you had driven the Maverick you would only had to have made one 5 minute stop for gas as it gets 700 miles on a 13.5 gallon fuel tank. Though people do look when you pee out the window.
Yeah, there's really zero cost savings if you're road tripping an EV vs gas vehicle. The time & money savings are in the daily and weekend driving. Takes 10 seconds to plug in at home and it costs 1/4 to 1/3 compared to gasoline.
OMGosh. Their whole trip was controlled by the charging stations. Only in their own eyes can they justify their purchase. 8 stops to go 1000 miles. And they were looking forward to the stops, WOW!!
mistake I believe people make is that they drive the SOC below 20%. If you do, you allow yourself to get stuck. Even in ICE cars, I never drop below 100 miles.
Thanks for doing one of the more believable drive in a Tesla. There is so much BS on TH-cam these days. Keep being honest. I will check out your other videos. PS I love your dog.
Looking at the records, an RV would make the trip from Los Angeles to NY in less time than a model y. Come to think of it, a classic mini from the mid to late 1960's would make the trip in less time assuming no breakdowns. Yes, I know of what I speak. I've worked on and lived with a mini from grade school to college, later years I've driven to both coasts in moving vans, mini vans, cars. Any of them would do the coast to coast run in less time than any Tesla even with broken fuel pumps. heck there are still places in the US with manual fuel pumps.
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Great video! People stopping at that town with no power, were not going to be able to buy gas either. I sold my F150 to buy a Model Y, After two years I'm still happy with it.
A lot of gas stations have a generator backup for the pumps. I filled up at Costco when they had no power. With an EV you are stuck. Even if there are no gas stations you always go to the next town. Most gas cars can go another 70 miles on the reserve tank. If you are that worried you can carry a gas can in addition.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Most gas stations do not have generators! I know 40 to 50 near me that don't so thats 0 for around Wisconsin. I do electrical for lots of these and they don't have generator interconnection points.
@@keithpvbatt2040 There are thousands of stations that do, including Costco. Everyone is getting backup generators (businesses and homes). There is actually a huge backlog because of high demand. I bet the situation near you changes soon.
Exactly. Most gas stations don’t have backup generators. Also, such power outages are really rare. Not something to take into account in the choice EV vs ICE car. Not for me anyway.
@@paulgoudfrooij6561 if you are in a hurricane state you will probably have generators if it is a branded station. Mom-and-pop type stations can not afford that luxury.
I've been driving my Tesla Model Y for about 2 years and put just over 30,000 miles on it. At least half are roadtrip miles. I went with Tesla mainly because I wanted the ability to roadtrip, otherwise any EV would be fine for a daily commute vehicle. I will say, there are still stretches that require full charging to make it to the next charger or even slowing down a bit. For example, I found myself dealing with a strong headwind in eastern Oklahoma between Fort Smith and OK City. There there were no chargers for the entire 195 miles, I had to go about 65-60 mph in order to arrive with only 2% at the supercharger in OK City - that was with a 30mph headwind. I've done a similar distance in Wyoming, averaging 80mph and still arriving with 14%.
Beyond that, having my Model Y has been a very good experience. I have driven it to the top of Pikes Peak, Mount Evans in a snow storm, through multiple high mountain passes on the way to and from ski resorts in Colorado and multiple long road trips. The instant torque is both fun and practical.
Especially for the middle of the country, I will say my minivan is a touch better for long roadtrips - for the increased size/room and wide availability of fueling stations. For medium and short range trips, I prefer the Tesla. Of course, the minivan costs a bit more to fuel and it isn't good in the mountains or on icy roads (2WD - Model Y is AWD). My minivan's check engine light came on halfway up Pikes Peak, so never doing that again.
Pro tip - 40oz Stanley cups fit very nicely in the cupholders - just pour your drink into that.
Thanks for sharing your experience. That's a ton of road trip miles. I am glad you are still finding the Model Y to be a good road tripper even with a minivan.
Hey ive driven that stretch from okc to fort smith, i know exactly what youre talking about. But what i did was i took a detour and went to tulsa first, thats only 125 miles apart but total distance is of course more but i think it was worth it. I always like playing it safe. I honestly don’t really care that it takes a bit long in my tesla than in a gas vehicle because of all the other advantages. Fun times
I managed to go from Dumont NJ to Crestview FL. for about $75 in our Model Y during the summer time 2023. We started our road trip during the night time, and as we hit our first supercharger, I would specifically checked the route and check for the cheapest chargers during the night time, found a few about 16-30 cents per KW. Took about 14-15hrs to get to Dekalb GA. Slept there, and continued on to FL next day for about 5 hrs. Sure during the day the rates are highest, but honestly always check your route and check the supers charges nearby the ones it already allocated for you.
We averaged about 230wh/K which works out to be just under 5 miles/KW. I enjoy crusing so most of my trip was 60mph. Some stretches I took it to 70Mph.
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Your comments on being less tired is spot on. My 2000 mi road trip was the least stressful I ever had and for the same reasons you stated. Being less stressed/tired makes you safer as well. Great vid.
That's a great point on the safer aspect. Thanks for watching!
100% my 1,060 mile trip to Starbase i drive every launch is so easy in my Y because of FSD beta and getting in a few quick naps while charging. When i take my Outback I have to stop and get a hotel or pull over and sleep for an hour or two.
@@JP-kb4yiThe lane keeping adaptive cruise in my subaru has already been such a game changer. feel pretty good about switching to EV in a couple years though!
@@Cyrribrae I have Subaru Eyesight in my outback. It’s great until I compare it to Teslas FSD Beta. Eyesight isn’t even remotely comparable to FSD Beta. FSD Beta is something you have to experience to really appreciate. It’s not perfect yet but in the past 2 years I’ve been able to experience the system getting better with each update.
@@JP-kb4yi Yea, I can believe it! Just Eyesight has been such a big improvement to what I was doing before. It does feel like if and when I get a Tesla that that upgrade is a must.
I recently completed a round trip from Nashville to Orlando for my daughter's cheer nationals. We rented a van, Chrysler Pacifica eHybrid. It was great. We got it to control the total trip time and the extra space. It was at a significant premium over our Model Y and Model S. In the end, the fastest we traveled in the van with our kids was 11:40 to cover 700 miles. Tesla estimated that the Model Y could have done the trip in just under 12 hours (11:56) and the Model S could have completed it with one less stop at 11:33. Charging would have been around $125. The van rental was $550. If I did it again, I'd probably still take the van for the space, but that's the only real reason. The EV stops would mostly be in the same areas, we even saw one where we stopped to eat in Lake City FL.
There is a lot of FUD out there about EVs. I've driven our cars a lot and all over the country. The current generation of Tesla EVs are just great machines that can road trip with little to no issue. The rest of the market is still a work in progress. I've had a Bolt EV and my son still drives it. I don't recommend it for roadtrips at all. 13hrs to get to Chicago from Nashville, it's just awful.
Yeah the bolt is good accept for road trips. I have to rent a car for me not to hate myself.
when you use FUD - I know you are a Tesla fanboy. That is their tell most of the time.
At least you did not dare someone to short sell the stock.
This is like the most straightforward non-bias car comparison I've seen on TH-cam ever. (Ending analysis)
The comment on KY is why if I lived in KY/WV/WY I'd buy a cheap Toyota or Honda hybrid and dedicate a lot more resources to getting renewable energy vs an EV/ With all the coal power in those states the pollution is damn close to on par (and likely hard to overcome with the initial extra CO2 required to build a new EV).
My wife and I did a road trip from Charlotte, NC to Palmsprings, CA in a 2017 Bolt EV with the 66KwH battery. Almost exclusively used EA stations on the way there and back. Franklin's charging spot is a little sketchy at 1am, I originally wanted to sleep for a few hours while there but we just got a charge and left to Clarksville. We did a little over 900 miles our first day driving and took the next two days slow.
Around 5500 miles in 2 weeks for $400 in charging cost from EA + a few free charges in different places like the Grand Canyon. Bought the Bolt in August of 2021 with 42k miles on it and now I am up to 150k miles.
When traveling with my dog i love going in my Tesla. I supercharge to full in order to get a nice mile or 2 walk in!
That's awesome. This was our first big trip with our dog. I think in the future we may go a little slower and give Hazel more time out of the car. We may not go to 100%, but maybe something like 80% is in our future.
Thanks for a very good and honest video! However, I believe the CO2 emissions for the ICE cars only includes the tailpipe emissions. You should add around 30% extra CO2 on the ICE cars from the production of the fuel itself.
Traveling in an EV definitely made me not mind slowdowns as much. Getting 10-20% extra range due to being stuck in 30 minutes of traffic/side roads almost breaks even in an EV.
For sure, I would much rather sit in traffic not burning gas while idling. Thanks for watching!
I've also seen that Franklin's Charging Hub featured in a couple other videos. Looks so cool, and a model the big companies should emulate.
Franklin Charging seems like a good choice. I hope we get more of those independent chargers.
Same. It was really neat. I think in the next 2-3 years we are going to see a lot of variations on what a charging station looks like.
@DataDriven-em1lv what type of charger interfaces did they have? Did they have NACS or did you need an adapter?
Awesome job laying out all the stats at each stop.
Worth pointing out - if power is out in the whole city, nobody is getting gas or diesel either. Pumps are still electric.
Not exactly true. Most gas stations have generators
@@martinez392 have to disagree on that one. Unless things have changed, I owned a gas station for 12 years - once had a multi-day power outage, tried to use a generator, ended up frying the pump motor, over $1,000 repair. It's possible.... but need a specialized generator. I've never seen or heard of a gas station having a "back up generator" - just not worth trouble and expense.
@dbmiller5881 I don't know where you are from. But where I am from.... most gas stations where I am from have stores. Where they sell drinks, food, coffee, water, ice. You name it, they probably sell it. So, most already here have generators installed.
Most gas stations do not have generators! I know 40 to 50 near me that don't so thats 0 for around Wisconsin. I do electrical for lots of these and they don't have generator interconnection points.@@martinez392
Most gas stations nationwide/worldwide do not. But some do, especially in areas where power goes out a lot. But.. don't forget that also means your internet for processing payments or even finding the open gas station is probably also out. No guarantees one way or the other but "most" is definitely an overstatement @@martinez392
Filling up a gas car (around your home/work and back etc) = about 36 fill ups a year (every 10 days approx). 36 X 10 minutes = 6 hours. Plugging the EV in (at home year round) 5 seconds X 365 days = 30 minutes. I just saved 5.5 hours of my time plugging in my EV. Mic drop :)
Yeah, as long as you don't have to travel outside of your town.
You forgot to include time saved by no oil changes and no regular maintaince service visits. 😊
@@kennyfordham6208a regular person almost never drives enough in a day to need a supercharger and on the rare occasion that they do it's not especially inconvenient to do so. With non-Tesla EVs it is now but that should change soon.
For sure, definitely saving some time overall. Also saved some time buying the car from Tesla instead of at a dealership 😎
@@kennyfordham6208The average American commute is 9 miles one way. The average American drives 36 miles a day. 80% of American daily drives are less than 50 miles a day. 99% of Americans drive less than 80 miles a day. The average American on a road trip covers only 400 miles a day, (5 hours of driving) during that 5 hours a single 20 minute stop is sufficient for the model Y to cover the distance. This nonsense about comparing the less convenient .001% of use cases when EVs are more convenient 99.999% of the use cases we do has got to stop.
Bottom line, you need to do at least a 3000 mile continuous road trip every year to make the EV less convenient.
Really great video. The effort you put in shows!
I am so glad you weren't trapped too long without power.
Great video. Just FYI the CO2 of the Model Y was nearly 0 since the Supercharger Network is 100% powered by renewable energy
Great video. Graphics are next level.
Glad you like them!
Just found your channel, great video and the graphics/stats you’ve put on the screen are brilliant!🎉 keep up the good work
Thanks so much!
I remember stopping in Brinkley myself. There is NOTHING there, and that chinese food place suckssssssss. It looks like a town that was bombed in the great War and it just never recovered.
We enjoyed our trip in the Model 3 more than any trip we have taken in our 4Runner. I find I have to take an extra stop on the first leg to pee quickly at a roadside rest area before we needed to do our first charge.
When filling your gas tank you stand and watch, then go inside for snacks and restroom. So the time to stop is actually about the same. Great video.
Great video and really like the graphics!
Thanks so much! I had a lot of fun making them
@@DataDriven-em1lv what program or app did you use? I've really got to get something that stylish for my future videos.
Dang. Such a good video! I know it's not a lot of views, but the quality of edits and discussion is fantastic. Well done!
In response to your conclusion, I definitely think that "total trip time" is where people can be the most deceptive and disingenuous, and in my experience, that goes for BOTH gas car owners and Tesla drivers talking about other EVs. Most often, what gets missed in the discussion is just how much time is spent on the road actually driving versus how much is spent stopped. Even in the "super slow charging" Chevy Bolt EV, I was able to drive 1,100 miles in about 22 hours thanks to open roads and 80 mph freeways.
Gas cars can theoretically do 20, 30, or even 40:1 driving to stopping time on a trip, but the driver, passengers, and pets have their own requirements. Even in a gas car, though, the fastest I typically travel is still less than a 10:1 driving to stopped ratio, and I'm looking to have an actual meal every 4 to 5 hours of driving as well as a bathroom/stretch break every 2 to 3 hours. Basically, my ideal EV is one that can consistently travel 200 to 300 miles at freeway speeds between stops that are no more than 30 minutes.
So for me, a Tesla would be capable of that on paper, but realistically, the frequency and length of stops wouldn't align with my preferred travel. I ran into the same issue when testing the KIA EV6, though the one strength it had over Teslas was that even though the charging stops were typically 20 minutes or less (I'd often prefer 30ish minutes for meals), it would then be able to travel for another 3 hours before stopping again.
Those are great points. When going over these numbers with friends they definitely were underestimating how long they are stopped. So I asked them to actually track it next trip. Tracking all of the data through TeslaFi has really helped clarify what doing a roadtrip actually looks like. I hope I can reduce the "stopped" time in future trips. But, I also appreciated being out of the car a bit longer while charging. Trying to do everything and then get back in the car within 15 minutes is actually kinda stressful sometimes.
I think as a new EV driver I want to "prove" that my car can road trip to my friends and other gas drivers. But it really has made the trips I've taken better in so many other ways than just time spent.
Thanks for watching!
@@DataDriven-em1lv Couldn't agree more! I'm definitely looking forward to your next installment. Thank you!
@@DataDriven-em1lv If people really only stopped for 5 minutes to gas up, then Bucee's wouldn't exist. It's totally true that people don't understand how road trip gas stops are totally different than refueling near home. Road trip stops mean rummaging around for stuff in the trunk, going inside for the bathroom, buying a Red Bull or coffee, etc.
The stats are out there for dwell times at freeway rest stops and the average time stopped just to take a leak is 8-12 minutes. It's well studied by state DOTs and hard to argue with.
Thank you for taking time and converting imperial to metric. It means alot:) like we are brothers now😅 subbed.
Thanks for the sub!
Beautiful video quality. Beautiful data nuggets in there. Well explained and fun trip throughout. 10/10.
EXCELLENT data-driven road trip test and comparison with an ICE vehicle,. Also, the graphic overlays, data tables and visulizations, and the anecodtal feedback helped paint a full picture of your experience. Last, the "OK, walkin to the sunset ... be cool, be cool." closer made me chuckle out loud :)
Loved the video. I like the fact that the power went out to show a real world scenario, and on the ice side the pumps are down as well. The grid down scenario is the great equalizer.
I’ve never experienced any power outages but it definitely happens. Tesla is busy working on this problem via their Megapack battery storage system. This system will also help when the grid is under pressure from high use. It’s going to take several years but it’s nice knowing someone is working on grid concerns.
I've forgotten whether you mentioned having the CCS1 adapter. If so, this trip is one that passes through an area with decent public charging support, but more importantly, the new EVgo stations going in at Pilot/Flying J locations with canopies, trash cans, squeegees, and of course a travel plaza. It might be an interesting contrast in experiences, and a lot of current/former Tesla owners have commented on the difference in the quality and convenience of the site locations. You'd definitely spend more on energy, but the quality of the site might go a long way in offsetting that.
Thanks for watching! I definitely want to check those out. I noticed a lot of them came on plugshare after we had gotten back. I used the CCS1 adapter at Franklin's. Cool charging stops has actually been a fun perk of EV ownership that I didn't expect.
@@DataDriven-em1lv Thanks for documenting your trip! I completely missed that Franklin's wasn't a Supercharger. I was just listening at the time, but that was definitely a cool stop.
Amazing visualizations in this video!
Stupid question -- assume when the power was out -- gas stations also didn't have power? or do most have backup generators?
Not a stupid question. My understanding is that some have generators and some don't. So places like Florida in a hurricane evacuation where they need gas and the power goes out are more likely to have generators.
(www.simplemost.com/gas-stations-pump-without-electricity/)
We didn't check the gas stations here specifically for the gas part, but the signs and lights were out because I tried to go get a water. But I do think there were some cars sitting waiting for the power to come back to pump gas.
The real win for gas in this specific situation is that there were likely gas stations with power within 25 miles of where we were. There just weren't charges. So when we have more chargers on the road this won't be a "gas advantage" anymore.
@@DataDriven-em1lv Here on the Maine coast about half of gas stations have generators. That is needed because we have bad storms in winter that can knock power out for days. That the gas stations have generators is not a panacea though since when the power it out, the internet is also down so the gas stations can't process credit cards and you can only buy gas with cash or a local check if they know you. In December 2023 we had a storm that knocked power out for 3-8 days depending on where you were and in January we had two storms that knocked power out for 2-3 days each. A couple of years ago we had a bad summer storm that knocked out power locally for 4 days. There is a hotel near us with a Tesla destination charger (level 2 - there are no super chargers here despite this being a BIG tourist destination). I drove past that hotel a number of times during the outage and saw the same two Teslas sitting there for the entire outage.
@@DataDriven-em1lv I've been in Florida during a hurricane. And I can tell that most gas stations DON'T have generators. Their logic being that by the time the hurricane arrives they are out of gas anyway. And I can attest to that. You're not going to find gas anywhere within a 100 miles radius of a major metro area about to be hit that last day or two before it hits.
Yet, those that had an EV and solar on their house or at work had no issues. You can look up the solar city in Florida in Babcock Ranch to see for yourselves what happened when the area got hammered by hurricane Ian in 2022. Most of the area was ravaged and had no power for days and even weeks in some locations, but they had power the whole time and even helped rescuers and some unfortunate residents that went over there.
I find while charging it's good to close my eyes for a 20 min nap.... just set the alarm... My ice gets 15 mpg, so driving the ev is considerably less expensive = $ 75 for fuel vs $20 for energy for 300 miles.
I really appreciated this road trip style, explanation, graphics, and total breakdown of time & money. It's exactly the sort of thing that I think about when traveling and it's hard for non-EV owners to really crystalize in their brains the divergence in styles.
Rant Time:
90 minutes difference over 1000 miles is basically nothing! People are lying when they say it takes 5 minutes to gas their car up on a road trip. Road trip gas stops are totally different than fueling up near home because you have to use the bathroom, get something out of the trunk, empty garbage, get a Red Bull, etc. Besides, if people really only stopped for 5 mins to gas up, then Bucee's wouldn't exist.
Secondly, on a 300 mile drive there's basically no difference between ICE and a modern EV. Driving between Oklahoma City to Waco, TX or Nashville to Athens, GA or Pittsburgh to Detroit, you're gonna have to stop for a nature break anyways which always works out to about 10-15 minutes. It's just in an EV you're getting a charge while emptying your bladder.
Distances over 300 miles, ICE vehicles are faster but the stoppage times are separated by mere minutes. People always underestimate just how far 300 miles is and overestimate how often they drive that distance.
Hey! I remember you guys! We survived the outage lol. It was terrifying especially since Arkanas went into an full lock down.
Great video. Good real world example and comparison.
I love data. This is a nice channel
I believe in the next 3-10 years we will start seeing a lot of charging stations like Franklins start popping up. Canopy with solar panels, grass/picnick areas/playground/small shops. Something you can easily spend 30 minutes stretching your legs while the car charges. I can't wait to own a Tesla personally. Mostly I'd like it for commuting since i drive roughly 80 miles to and from work.
Great video, I'm really looking forward to my cross country trip this spring in my EV6.
charging locations vary wildly based on local municipalities IE: POLITICS!! I see those days going away soon as the market increases with full use of the NACS port system. I could be wrong but after 20K roadtrips in a year around the good ol USA that would be my take!
Awesome video, very fair and common sense take on the topic
11:45, How do you get the overlay to show all that data (temperature, elevation, miles/KWh, etc) ? Is that from a tracking app ?
Interesting seeing the stats. A lot of work going into that ! Kudos ! You got yourself another subscriber !
Nice review, and I especially liked the great graphics. Well done!
Brilliant graphics.
Actually brilliant all round video.
Headwind/tailwind information would be interesting. I might have missed this.
What software did you use for these lovely graphics for travel between superchargers and then for the charging stats ?
They gotta get those prices down. 30 cents per kWh, when at home it’s like 10 or 11, feels like gasoline again.
Correct me if I’m wrong but during a power outage even regular gas stations don’t work either so you would have to wait also if you needed gas.
I am currently planning a trip from Vancouver bc Canada to Las Vegas and I was actually blown away that my “fuel” costs would be exactly the same for the trip. I have both a model 3 rwd and a hybrid maverick fwd. We are taking the maverick not because it would take longer (overall we will stop the same interval for breaks and restrooms) but because the variety of places we can choose to stop at will be different. Instead of a Tesla parking lot, we can take it at a viewpoint or place of interest. With the Tesla on our last trip from the Canadian border to the Mexican border, it was always at a supercharger. Mind you there are actually quite a few cool charging stations if you plan you stops, but the fact of the matter is that you are restricted to stopping at specific stations, which makes a return trip via the same route boring and repetitive. EVs have their worst efficiency at high speeds and gas cars are just the opposite. Decision, buy both a ev and an efficient hybrid and you are set! Great video!
well balanced video. Thank you 😀
Glad it was helpful!
Did you say what your driving speed was or the ambient temperature? I question your 2.64mi/KWh as being low. In hilly cross country trips I get 3.7mi/KWh in a Model S in the summer months averaging on AutoPilot at 75mph. If I set the speed to 65mph I get 4mi/KWh. Nice I also get free Supercharging too.
good job explaining all the real facts.
Great video!
Thanks!
That smart he got gas and electric I'mma get a model y the model 3 cool but i like more room
We like the extra space in our model Y. With the Model 3 losing the tax credit the Model Y makes a lot of sense for even more people.
Fantastic visuals and great data.
I have a Bolt EUV and a Volt and I was a little surprised by how much it cost for you to take the Tesla. I am not trying to be critical. I actually think it is worth it because it was almost as fast as a gas vehicle. I have been thinking one of the reasons I might take the Bolt when I am not in a hurry and deal with the painfully slow charging is that it would be cheaper but I can make our 900 mile trip to my family in the Volt for about $75 in gas and electric. I am sure I will still take the Bolt at least once to try it as it is so comfortable and Super Cruise would make the drive.so much easier. Long stops really are not an issue for me as even in a gas car, it seems to take forever to get my family in and out of the car when we stop. At least with the Bolt I will have. a reason to sit there and wait.
Excellent data driven video. Was very much looking forward to purchasing a Model Y, but due to mostly traveling with it, bought Rav4 Hybrid instead. Rav4 was 15K cheaper than Model Y. Current cost per mile is .092 based on average price per gallon of $3.30. I also own a 21 Corolla Hybrid which has a cost per mile of .063 with same price per gallon as Rav4. I have an App on my phone that keeps track of all my fuel costs for my cars.
Good show. A 180 from the last comparison vs the Chevy Bolt.
How do you have better info-graphics that large channels?
What happens at gas stations when the power goes out? You couldn’t pump gas either, right? I’m not sure I’ve never ran into that situation.
Pull in superchargers are for towing so if it's not full please don't use them.
I feel lucky that I live on an island. I don't think I've ever driven more than 300 miles a day and I was dangerously tired by the end. My bladder needs emptying every 100 miles which forces me to take regular breaks these days. Last time I witnessed a power cut was in 1973. Different world obviously.
Electric vehicles are pretty cool, but as a New Yorker I don’t think we’re ready for that type of infrastructure there’s not enough charging stations here unfortunately but as soon as they get it going, I’ll definitely get myself an Eevee
Much respect to Franklin's!
For the Prius's cost analysis, does that also include having it's battery fully charged to increase the car's MPG? If so you'd have to stop to charge on Level 2 chargers a LOT to make sure you're getting the best MPG possible.
that's for the one that's not capable of being plugged in. So it's just the regular Prius, not the Prius Prime.
The KWH charge on your trip was way cheaper on the road than in the UK. Don't think there would have been much change from £200.
Curious why you are only partially charging at each stop?
Thanks for some real world numbers. Also nice that you included Prius numbers. Too many videos I see only include a gas car that gets under 30 mpg. I have a 21 Prius Prime and I generally get over 60 mpg on road trips. This car fits my use case and was so much cheaper compared to an EV when I bought it. I continue to watch the EV market. Will I get an EV ? Maybe but it might be awhile.
Hybrid Prius or a Hyundai ionic is the way to go. 50-60mpg and you don’t have to stroke out from the stress of not being able to reach a charger in time.
Nice Video...Do you have a Long Range or RWD Model Y?...Im deciding between both of them...I do pretty much 90% City and Maybe 1 rode trip a year...Leaning toward the RWD and save $5K
28:33 - road trip charging costs are 15x more expensive for me…$0.03/kwh at home, and my anecdotal observed average supercharger cost is about $0.43/kwh.
Great video
I made a similar trip in my 2018 Jeep Renegade and I it cost me same as your charging cost. I don't see the advantage, there was never issue getting fueled up.
CO2 is not an issue, it is plant food.
Based on $2.60/g my 2012 GMC Yukon would cost ~$125 - $135 for that trip. Interesting to compare. Was good to see how a Tesla can make such a trip reasonably well. I'd be interested to see if a non-Tesla EV would fare as well. I suspect it would not. Nice job on the video, new sub! (I'm from Louisville as well btw)
I own a Y also and my friend owns a Mach E. This past summer we road tripped both and my friend said he would never road trip his Mach E again. The problem wasn’t the car rather the charging infrastructure. He had so many locations that had broken chargers or they pulled half the power. It really is upsetting because most of the bad reputation EV’s gets is charging while road tripping. On the bright side, Tesla is gradually opening up its network to none Tesla’s so hopefully that experience changes for none Tesla EV’s
@@JP-kb4yi Correct. That's going to change this year after Tesla opens up their network to almost all CCS EVs in gradual phases.
@@Paul-cj1wb I really wish the rest of the auto manufacturers would help Tesla build out the supper charging network. If they did, consumers are the ultimate winners because it would take half the time to have a solid nationwide charging infrastructure.
Interesting. I was just doing the maths. My most economical ICE car was also the best and most comfortable for a long drive. A 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis ordered with the 5.8 litre (351) V8 and the towing package. Highway fuel consumption was 34 miles to the US gallon. Wirh the size of the tank, one fill aling the way eould have done the trick. Gas would have cost under $100 each way. That one was wrecked in a crash. Im looking for another.
Great video! Hazel is so patient.😊 BTW, you can vote for the next Tesla SC location, you know?! Just cast your vote for the best 5 locations that you wish. Good luck!🍀
Is this new sign with price per KwH the new Gas Station sign on the side of the street lol? I guess it could be put into apps as well
gas stations are not gonna have awnings to walk the dog ....
Damn I thought 750-800mi a day was a ton… 977 is crazy
Not sure how you are calculating CO2. But remember, gas doesn’t magically appear at the station. Gas has to be refined (using electricity that could just go into a car), transported, stored, transported again, pumped using electricity, then finally goes into a car. So before you even pull off after a full up you have already emitted CO2. Then add that number to what comes out of the tail pipe
Thank you for the theoretical gas at $4.00. In Los Angeles we are $4.05.
Solar awnings should be at all ev charging stations for sure.
Were ypu stopping at V2 or V3 chargers? No need to use V2. When only V2 chargers are available, use an EA charger.
Awnings with solar panels seems logical to me
Great vid . You did Franklin great job . seen this location on a Kyle ( out of spec vid). And second , the info and detail , you do even a better job than Kyle . You do the effort for Europeans. Keep up the good work. 👍
I would say you make a great argument for tesla as a second car in the family. As the only car, well, the hybrid would work better.
My model 3 compared to our Prius we had the Tesla bets out the Prius on roadtrip cost.
That's great, I think a big factor here was just how cheap gas was on this trip. I would be interested to hear your comparison. Like distance, cost for electricity and the cost of gas.
@@DataDriven-em1lv it has been a while since the trip but it was from phoenix to San Francisco. So gas in California is always a premium.
Jeez! Your model Y only got 24mpg equivalent! My 2001 Ford Ranger extended cab gets 23 on the Interstate with a 3-liter V6. My wife's Ford Maverick hybrid gets 54 mpg on the interstate.
If you had driven the Maverick you would only had to have made one 5 minute stop for gas as it gets 700 miles on a 13.5 gallon fuel tank. Though people do look when you pee out the window.
Yeah, there's really zero cost savings if you're road tripping an EV vs gas vehicle. The time & money savings are in the daily and weekend driving. Takes 10 seconds to plug in at home and it costs 1/4 to 1/3 compared to gasoline.
Don’t forget that you had a dog on the trip. You can’t power through with the truck if you have the dog.
Is this a standard range or LR?
OMGosh. Their whole trip was controlled by the charging stations. Only in their own eyes can they justify their purchase. 8 stops to go 1000 miles. And they were looking forward to the stops, WOW!!
Great video!
mistake I believe people make is that they drive the SOC below 20%. If you do, you allow yourself to get stuck. Even in ICE cars, I never drop below 100 miles.
Awesome Video 👏🏾
Thank you!!
how much did the truck trip cost? Tesla was like 10 cents per mile
Thanks for doing one of the more believable drive in a Tesla. There is so much BS on TH-cam these days. Keep being honest. I will check out your other videos. PS I love your dog.
Why ABRP for panning vs Tesla inbuilt navigation for the whole trip?
ABRP makes it so anybody can easily look it up and also cross-compare to different EVs.
Plug in an efficicient generator for long trip and it would do better than a mechanical gas engine
3 stops for gas, you must have the small tank. I get about 700 miles of range on my F-150. So I stop 1 time for gas on a 1,200 mile trip.
Good luck filling up your gas tank during brown out.
Looking at the records, an RV would make the trip from Los Angeles to NY in less time than a model y.
Come to think of it, a classic mini from the mid to late 1960's would make the trip in less time assuming no breakdowns.
Yes, I know of what I speak.
I've worked on and lived with a mini from grade school to college, later years I've driven to both coasts in moving vans, mini vans, cars.
Any of them would do the coast to coast run in less time than any Tesla even with broken fuel pumps. heck there are still places in the US with manual fuel pumps.
Cannonballing an RV is a weird flex, but you do you.