11 Reasons why Recording on a PC is better than MAC!
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- Mac Snobs & the claims of being "superior" to PC. Here are 11 very good reasons why they're dead wrong. Grab the SMG C-Blocker FREE TRIAL here: www.spectredigital.com/produc...
0:00 I've Used PCs & Macs Extensively
0:43 The Prices
2:04 Apple Is A Lifestyle Brand
4:04 Mac Stability Isn't All That
5:20 Customizability
6:48 Upgradability
7:54 Apple Abandoned Their Hardware
8:59 The Sound Is The Same
10:14 Hackintosh
11:29 More Options For Free Plugins
12:48 It's 2021, Not 1991
14:06 You Already Have A PC
15:48 Outro & Bloopers
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Only real reason I prefer PCs is because when something breaks,I like to be able to fix it. My GPU died a few months ago,all I did was get a new one,plug it in,update drivers and bam. If I can't fix it I don't want it
Same here. I tweak, majorly customize, and repair everything I own. If I can't I have no interest in it.
Anyone who's worked on both platforms knows they both have strengths and weaknesses over each other. Regardless of which one you use, they will both inevitably piss you off royally.
Truer words.
Though I do hate windows more.
Chrome os is the best operating system to record on 🤣
As someone who currently uses both on a daily basis, I can confirm. Though unlike the Krampus, I hate macos far more because it hides too much damn information and won't let me dial down the security a bit, which for most users is good but for a so called "power user" (I hate that phrase) is just annoying as shit to constantly have to enter your password or give a bio-metric authentication every time you make a tiny change, or even worse a temporary change, to settings, then you have to lock everything back up behind you....
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here:
1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac.
2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means
3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases.
4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC.
6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones?
7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro
MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too.
8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac.
9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument.
10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection?
11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@@Emcfree2084 What are you even talking about with 'provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production'? That is straight BS, and it's clear you're basing your opinion on a very limited and anecdotal sample-size, and very little expertise on the topic. I recently built my new studio-PC in a Cooler Master Silencio case which is designed specifically for sound-deadening (really wasn't even needed because I used Noctua fans) and it is a screamingly fast machine. I literally cannot hear it even if I stick my ear up against it. I've used many macs and none have been this silent. I get the feeling you're talking about laptops, and if so then whatever. Most professional installations are not going to base their design around a laptop.
Thanks Glenn for the wonderful information!!! Keep kicking ass!!!
Mac guy here, not butt hurt and generally agree with what you said. I personally just like the Mac OS (despite a few enraging moments). As someone who also works in IT and deals with a roughly equal amount of PCs and Macs, they both suck in their own ways, Mac is just what I'm most comfortable and can work fluently in. The most important thing is using a system you know and like to use, for me, my PC is an auxiliary piece of equipment I use if there is something my Mac doesn't do, like a few plugins and of course gaming.
He was objectively wrong on every point.
I am a 30 yr it, sw and db vet, that spent decades on everything from ibm mainframes, att sys 5, novell, nt, silicon graphx, windows, unix, linux, etc. I built out my first home studio 20+ yrs ago with cakewalk, then sonar, cubase and tried reaper later. Around 2008 or so I got my first Mac book pro and I slapped a VM of windows for my dev environment and I liked it. It was a nice laptop. Then I got into playing around with the midi/audio setup and realized that everything is stupid simple on the macbook. Connect multiple interfaces and merge them into one, connect midi controllers and keyboards and it sees them all and just works. Played with garageband and it was able to do what my homestudio did, but easier. About 3 yrs ago I bought a new macbook pro, got Logic Pro X and haven’t looked back since. Its 200 bucks and I don’t have to pay upgrades every year, which is nice. All plugins work as do Logic upgrades. Everything is stupid simple. I later got an ipad and the integration is incredible, remotely controlling logic is amazing with an iPad. I finally quit android just last week and got an iphone and I am blown away by the integration with everything. It just works and works well. When IT is your career it sucks to have to “support” your own stuff at home and it seemed I spent a lot of time maintaining my pc studio. Anyway, I am much more happy with my setup now as opposed to my previous ones. Cheers
@@Jmdeclue yes this is the view of many people, but wouldn’t get as many clicks or opportunities to rant his personal opinion
@@Emcfree2084 Also the point that macs are far more expensive?
@@hannes1734 yes he is either ignorant or being misleading on that too
Based on Glenn's recent track record, we might see a video on [insert number] of reasons why recording on a MAC is better than PC. The possibility is there.
I’m counting on it … and it’s cool because ultimately, every choice has trade-offs.
Yup.
And a linux video maybe lollll
X)
Yeah when he said the apple user is waiting to get their machine repaired, the pc user will be getting things done…yeah trying to get their drivers installed lol
The Mac Pro is insanely priced…
I do my music production with a Mac mini, and for the most part, works great.
I've been wanting to try one of those. I've been using a 2017 MacBook Pro that was ordered direct from Apple and upgraded to a 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM...but the 3.2GHz i5 limits what I can do in Logic a bit. I'll have to look into a M1 Mini for sure.
Got a 2nd hand 2011 iMac last year and it's fantastic for recording & music production.
Can't go back to using a PC after having a Macbook since 2009.
@@nordicomsystems8841 Got the Mac mini M1 . 1300 Dollars (16GB ram) and I am currently running 225 tracks film score (orchestral recording 24b/48k, electronic parts etc) while playing the fhd film. I would have ripped the film SD if I would experience some C/G-PU issues, but I am not.
late 2012 Mac Mini i5 16g ram works perfect.
@@mvh2275 cool. Never had one. Started off with a Macbook pro in 2009 and 2 years ago the battery blew up for some reason, case got warped..so got a new battery installed and it actually kinda works just takes ages to boot up.
Im a Mac user that loves your videos, I will say I've seen plenty of professional studios being ran on Mac minis, the new M1 Macs for what they offer are vastly cheaper than the intel Macs from yesteryear. But, anyone that advocates for "Right to Repair" shouldn't' disagree with you in regards to serviceability. Thanks for the video! thoroughly enjoyed it!
Switched to an m1 mini setup within the last few months and it’s so much smoother than my old pc
I discovered your channel recently and I think that its amazing, thank u
My girlfriend, a wonderfully tolerant woman, wandered into the living room just as your video was concluding with that elegant belch. Did great things for improving my standing with her as a cultured, educated 50 year old. Great video, anyhow.
I just turned 50 last month. Live long and prosper dude lol ✌🏼
@@nordicomsystems8841 I was the month before, belated happy birthday.
The struggle is real. I'll watch three long- winded, high-brow video essays and wash them down with a Jacob Bronowski interview, but she'll inevitably look in on me as soon as I throw in a Quick CinemaSins or Joel Haver video
I got a 2 year old used HP laptop for £130 Runs most music applications just fine. Heck I have a 15 year old desktop PC that still runs faster then many laptops today.
@David Garig Thanks, that made me proper chuckle 😁
Glen: Clearly lays out reasons he can judge the experience on both platforms
Butthurts: "You're just biased against macs because you don't know how awesome they are."
Smarties: "I wonder how many days before the "reasons to pick macs" video comes out"
Might be a while, Glenn sounds like he did when he was on about ProTools, only a little more direct and to the point here while making apple sauce.
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here:
1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac.
2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means
3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases.
4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC.
6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones?
7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro
MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too.
8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac.
9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument.
10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection?
11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@@Emcfree2084completely agree, this video is so stupid
@@Emcfree2084 Many things you say are valid. Reliablility just simply isn't true. I look after IT for a 300 person company, and issues with Macs are no more or less common than with windows.
@@paulmdevenney I agree. Mac's are not designed for the corporate environment, that's where PC is going to be much more suitable. However for recording engineers and people who want a device that will go for best part of 10 years and still be usable and have resale value, that's where you would get a Mac.
I enjoyed this. I've been a PC guy my whole life building my own. I recently bought the 14" MacBook pro and it's nuts how fast it is. Full disclosure though I don't do just music. I do photo and video work as well.
Glenn, your videos just keep getting more and more solid. Love the bluntness, love the honesty and love the style. “30 frames per second LOOKS LIKE SHIT!” Gems in every episode 😂
Spot on.
I run both but my main focus is video editing. The m1 line is great with software built on Apple architecture (like DaVinci Resolve) but the lack of customization capabilities or even things like the number of accessible ports makes the Apple experience sometimes frustrating.
Dongles, anyone?
Get a 21012 tower. Fix anything. And still I still the beAst.
It's what we all still use, besides the new M1
Don't get me started about video plug-ins not wotking after an Apple cash-grab. I mean update.
New MacBook pros have HDMI, sD card slot and 3 thunderbolt 4 buses.
I mean if you wanna shell out the cash, the new MacBook pros have ports again and magsafe. Im glad I waited. Finally apple is putting a "contender" in the mix. No pun intended.
Another edit. Glenn has a point about the coffee shop hipster thing, I would never do that. I have bad social anxiety. Unless you know I'm out of town or someshit, that's different I feel like.
Since you're also a viewer of this channel is it safe to assume that you also do some metal music production even maybe just as a hobby? I'd very much like to know how the M1 is with the kind of stuff metal DAW sessions would need.
Not butt hurt at all, but after decades of PC use (also building, etc.), I switched to Mac and found the experience much better. Just my personal preference. I agree however that the whole lifestyle nonsense is complete bullshit. That said, my Macs have always lasted longer than my PCs (which I still use for some tasks). I'm currently writing this on a 2013 iMac that I hammer on a daily basis and it isn't even close to dying, which pretty much mitigates the cost difference. With PCs, I was replacing or rebuilding every couple years. Bottom line, like anything else it all comes down to what you prefer. There is no wrong choice.
Im with. you on that. I have 2 2015 Macbook Airs that I use. The OS still works (and is up to date) and havent had any issues.
Honestly, how can a professional be in one ecosystem and change to other, the amount of money you need would be insane. Licenses don't transfer from windows to mac, so all this after decades of using one I changed to other is a lot of BS. specially in professional applications.
I mean... you were rebuilding and upgrading your PC because you can do that with PCs. If I bought a mac I'd cling to it til it died too...
I'm replying to your comment on a PC I bought in 2013. I put in a fancy video card in 2014 to play GTA V (hard to believe they still haven't gotten VI out yet). Sadly had to replace the original hard drive with an SSD in 2016 or so (but all hard drives fail). Since then it's been issue free. It's not my main computer, but I have it attached to my TV in the living room to watch my stories and occasionally fire up a game or two.
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here:
1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac.
2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means
3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases.
4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC.
6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones?
7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro
MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too.
8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac.
9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument.
10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection?
11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
Excellent video, Glenn!
It's always fun listening to Glenn ranting. Also fun how only the plugin part was about actual recording. Fun video, weird title :D
I started on and have been using Logic for a decade now, and its just what I'm used to using.
I'd been using Macbook Pros throughout that time, and they'd had a variety of issues because of their Intel cpus, prices etc. This year I picked up the Macbook Air M1 model and for what it does and the price it sells at it is a fantastic little machine. The only problem I have with it is the exclusively USB C ports, but the compromise to that is a USB dock.
yes the M1 is amazing considering its all in ONE little chip. this is just a teaser of the future. soon we will be able to do full music sessions on our ipads or iphones, androids
@@mercymourning3853 Oh hell no. Think about what intensive operations such as a bunch of tracks and plugins will do to the electronics in such a cramped little space like a phone. Shit will get hot, that will have a significant effect on the longevity of your components for the simple fact that heat kills.
It's nice to have portability where the situation calls for it but in a reasonably fixed environment, as a studio is, it makes more sense to have a desktop unit which can breathe and last you much longer - unless you like to part with your money on a regular basis like all the upgrade junkie wankers who get bored with the tech in their phones every six months.
To be fair, Clunt, a lot of the other manufacturers tend to follow what Apple does in some ways. I got a Dell XPS laptop from work and while it is an i9 beast with 64GB of RAM, it has only USB-C ports on it, so I've had to buy a USB-C stick for carting files around if need be. Yes, there is the docking station they gave me as well but even that fucking thing only has three USB 2.0 ports on it!
For sure agree with the USB-C ports limitation
@@larzblast The stress tested limit is somewhere in the 200 tracks in Logic X (this is the non-native form on the M1 chips, mind you), using multiple independent plugins on each track all working in unison.
It doesn't even really get much above "warm". I'm not mixing multimillion dollar productions in my basement, I'm fuckassing around making things I like for Uni. I haven't had a single snag on processing power. I still use a heap of Synths, guitar plugins, processing plugins etc.
If its not your thing, fair enough. It works great for me, and it has had none of the issues I'd used to experience with Intel chip Macbooks in the years prior.
As far as I'm concerned, its a great investment. It does the job I want it to do.
I would never tell anyone that they NEED a Mac for audio production, that’s ridiculous of course. However, I did just shell out a ton of cash on the new MacBook Pro with the M1 Max chip which is an insanely impressive system. The amount of performance you’re able to without ever heating up or sacrificing battery life is what sold me on it, especially since I’m someone who likes to jam out with lots of modular synths and effects that can be CPU intensive. There’s also some benefits to the Apple ecosystem, for example easily using your iPad as a second monitor and sending texts on your Mac, both of which will be extremely useful for me. Apple is also much better than Microsoft when it comes to user privacy.
So yeah, you can make music with both and be perfectly fine, but there’s lots of reasons that I’m excited to get my first Mac laptop that isn’t from my company :) I’m planning to make this computer last 10 years at least.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the products, you won't get a bad laptop from Apple, but Apple as a company is absolutly trash, and it does show in their products aswell, as they are overpriced, even the newer models with the M1 chipset, like they're fine, but comparatively it's nothing amazing. The entire issue is marketing, Apple has from the start marketed their products as if the Ipod wasn't an mp3 player, their laptops weren't PC's, they were something special and exclusive, when in fact the Iphone f.ex. was and to a great degree still is 80% samsung components, likewise the macbook ran on Intel hardware for decades, like, the M1 chipset is their first proprietary chipset ever.
Most of what Apple has ever said about their products has been manipulative marketing, other than that their laptops are not bad, still overpriced but certainly not bad, especially the M1 models, same can't be said about their phones or their "desktops" which are a whole other can of worms. If i ever were to get anything from Apple, it would be a macbook, it is if anything, their only worthwhile product.
The biggest issue with the laptops, is that (like all of their products) they are designed in a way so you can't clean them properly, nor designed so you can open them really (which you have to if you want to keep a computer for 10 years, without running into major issues regarding heatsinks and airflow). It's part of their whole right to repair scheme, telling people that it's so special that only a specialist are allowed to open them, when in fact on the desktop f.ex. when you open it, there's a screen cord set in a way that if you don't know that it's there, you'll destroy the screen, and there's an exposed battery pack inside, which can kill you if you touch it - there's no reasons for any of this, besides deliberately designing it that way - any other desktop on the market has a sealed battery pack exactly because they are designed so laymen can just open it and clean it.
And if you don't mind clicking accept when asked 17 times in a row whether or not you want to empty the trashbin, then MacOS is also very serviceable. Also arguable the only reason Apple has better user privacy is because most malicious software is designed for windows, as around 80% of computer users use windows, besides since near 90% of infections etc. happen through social engineering then it's kind of a moot point, since if you know how to not get malicious software on your computer then user privacy doesn't really matter too much, atleast on a personal use level, in terms of digital privacy it's more so social media platforms, digital banking etc. you want to pay attention too, not so much your personal system, since most likely, unless you got something to hide, then noone is going to target you directly - simply put, you're not important enough to have to care that much about user privacy, and in terms of data harvesting, that's nothing a little dash of VPN can't fix, and in that case there's isn't any difference between Mac and Windows.
LOL User Privacy- Who sold you that line of BS, oh the same person who sold you the MAc. utter Fucking BULLSHIT they Both sell you at and Frankly at the same fucking Pace.. !
"Apple is also much better than Microsoft when it comes to user privacy." I hear people say this, but I haven't heard anyone say why this is the case. Can you elaborate? Genuinely curious.
I am a senior IT guy with a ton of disciplines over the last 30 years including currently CTO, Mac is in no way inherently more secure.
Period.
Mac gets attacked less because historically the user base is much much smaller, near 4% for it's entire existence but if somone wants to own your Mac they can do so just as easilly as any other system. Apple has gotten marginally better about patching, the leading cause of losing your sh1t, but it is no where near responsive enough and still has vulnerabilities even today that were fixed 3 or more months ago in every other Unix like OS out there. Maybe more because of all the proprietary software all over it and controlling it.
Macs are just as vulnerable as any other relatively unpatched system is. Memorise it.
As for privacy, yeah. Right. All that data they get from your systems, not going to use it huh?
Yeah, right. It is how these guys make money these days.
@@soundman1402 Due to their business model, Apple has a general policy of encrypting and randomizing user data unless there's a good reason not to: iMessage uses E2E encryption, Siri voice data isn't tied to or traced back to your identity, speech-to-text features are available on-device, and Safari has tracking protection on by default, much like Firefox and Brave, just to name a few examples. Unlike Microsoft and especially Google, which both make a lot of their revenue through ads, Apple isn't as concerned with user data because they instead make money by charging a premium for their hardware.
This isn't to say Apple is perfect. Look up GNU's webpage titled "Apple's Operating Systems are Malware" (they have one for Microsoft as well). I personally would love it if I had all my favorite plugins available on Linux, but unfortunately that isn't the case.
Very cool! Love your content!
You're just awesome! Loved this!!
Apple has been about lifestyle for decades, not just recently. Everything else you said is bang on correct. I've used both platforms, but PC is infinitely better, more flexible, and economically sound.
Apple is good no denying that. But I will never buy it again because of their corporate greed. Honestly if I could I'd stop using Microsoft products for same reason.
I dunno... i was around during power PC days... those machines were for artists... music was done on a mac pre-2005
Intel needs to step there shit up because apple just blew them out the water with the M1 chips
@@omarb2181 apple went arm instead of x86. Intel will never compete in that space. Arm is fantastic for specific use cases but lacks the "jack of all trades" qualities of x86 which is why M1 macs are fantastic at some things and God fucking awful at others things. Arm for desktop use is still very much a work in progress and will take a few generations until it can compete with x86 for general purpose
Apple, gibson, boats, pools.
Theres always a problem, and that problem always cost at least $500
Reaper is now available for Linux. Try that. Its like Mac, just that its free and Open Source.
Available vs . . . performance and stability? I ask because Plex is available for Linux, but I quit trying to get it to work well. I'm now running it on an iMac. I have older Macs and windows I could convert to Linux in a heartbeat to test, but don't want to commit without some insight - back up and restore are tiresome ;-)
@@rroades I dropped Plex for Emby and it’s running much better.
@@motoki1 I may give that a try. Anyone try Reaper yet? I’m trying to avoid trying but not opposed completely
great video mr. Glenn , love the solar T in the back, how it works on you studio project, greeting from Ecuador
Your video on this subject is absolute truth.
I subbed.
I would genuinely love to see a "Recording in Linux" episode. The software is there (eg Linux distros dedicated specifically for audio recording, DAWs like Ardour, Harrison Mixbus, Bitwig Studio, Reaper and others) as well as the hardware (plenty of modern Class Compliant USB audio interfaces which means you do not need to worry about drivers). What Linux probably still lacks today is the plethora of VST plugins that Mac and windows have (although there is a good variety of LV2 plugins that may do the job).
You beat me to it, sir. I totally agree with you. I run Kubuntu with all of the Ubuntu Studio apps installed. Great solution for folks like me, working on a tight budget.
That said, still have to use a few select apps that run best natively in Windows. I'd try wine, but the latency issues going through that route are unacceptable for me.
LinVst works pretty well
Recording on modern (second half of 2021) Linux is really great. Sure, Linux doesn't have all the third party plugins, but guess what: with just Ardour, Calf and Guitarix you can have really great sounding recordings. And if you need some drum programming, the Drumgizmo+Muse combo works really well. You can have all this for the cost of absolutely zero, and they are all free (as in freedom) software.
@@AndrossUT Wasn't aware of LinVst to be honest. Thank you
@@FrancoBugnano That's what I am talking about :)
You’ve got several points there, but I have Logic Pro X and i love working with it.
I’ve recorded on PC too, mostly Reaper, and I wasn’t getting the same results, but thats mainly because all the great Logic plugins that are included (for only € 200 by the way).
def my fave video you've ever made, cheers!
Brilliantly put Glenn!
A lot of great points made here, although with a lot of bias lol! However, in the end, the best piece of advice that should be given to anyone is to simply use whatever system you are most comfortable using. Personally I do actually prefer to use a Mac, but not because I’m stuck up or anything. Its just because I’m more comfortable with the work flow of Mac OS over windows. Also after having used several different daws on the market, including being protools certified, I genuinely preferred the workflow of Logic over protools and many of the others. So yes while there are many advantages to having a pc system over a Mac system, in the end you should use what you are most comfortable with. Nothing more, nothing less. And regardless of what system you’re on, or what daw you’re using, I think we can all agree on this: let’s all make some kick ass music!
It really doesn't take much anymore considering a 6 core processor and 16GB of ram are pretty much the new base model for just about everything. You can get a lot done with that. Hell more than that is pretty much overkill for audio recording.
This. Computers are really, really fast these days, and even the lowest end builds are more than enough unless you're doing some serious encoding/rendering or working with very large files.
Nonsense. If you're a professional recording/mix engineer you can run into problems on a system like that easy. Try running a session with plugins from DMG or Acustica. Fuck, try running a few instances of Soothe 2 on that system and see what happens. There is never enough power I promise you.
I love the blooper reels at the end. You are truly the Jackie Chan of audio tutorials.
This was awesome! I upgraded my drum room and synth room computers to Windows 11 and everything still works just grand.
Well-recorded burps. The epitomy of a shoiny production. Thank you Glenn! I mean for the video.
"Lifestyle brand" made me lolololol
All the recording/production I've ever done has been on PC.
Nothing against Macs, I just never had any problems with PC, have no reason to switch. Especially because I know how to use ASIO.
I owe you a debt, Glenjamin.
thats basically why I use PCs, Ive never had problems and I know how ASIO works.
Hi, love your channel, looking to upgrade my computer. I am looking at Slick Audio, I notice there is not a lot of recent activity on their TH-cam channel. Is the company stable in 2022? SA looks like the best option for me. Thanks!
Love you man, this was beautiful.
One doesn’t need a Mac to do music. With that said, I prefer the Mac environment. It isn’t perfect but I prefer it over the windows environment. Also, the arm processor are game changers.
Yes they are. I just built a Ryzen 5950x system for my studio and the m1 Pro benchmarks for the Macbook Pros can equal the single core performance and the multicore gets to about 75% of what my desktop will do. Impressive for a laptop! Add in in a GPU that kills for video work and do it on batteries? That is truly impressive. I'm not selling my Ryzen just yet but you'd have to be an idiot if you didn't realize SOC designs are the future.
@@scottharris7222 GPU that kills, playing which games? Arm processors have existed for ever, all phones are ARM. And good luck on 3d rendering on an M1...
u need mac
@@scottharris7222 Intel and AMD will be on that train soon. I believe Intel bought the factory that makes the M1 Chips
not for so long after new cpus got announced
I have a friend who has a Mac... "It just works" was his mantra, as if PC's are likely to explode or leak oil.
I have yet to experience a crash on my PC using Reaper, and that's with some exotic third party plugins.
Todd??? Is that you Todd???
It's about the OS, and that is that actual problem.
"It just works" usually means, I do a system update and nothing is broken.
No individually finding and updating drivers, no "Windows Feature Updates" that moved/removed/changed a thing, no inexplicably reset preferences. The list goes on.
I use a mac and a PC. PC hardware can be nice and relatively inexpensive but Windows is a dog's breakfast and things only appear to be getting worse with the new version.
@@rainbowkrampus Nah mate, "It just works" is a saying in Skyrim where Nords rules!
i have yet to get the audio latency sorted in windows! asio doesn't help. i plug into my macbook 2015 and off i go right away
Thank you Glen for being awesome.
Awesome stuff Glen!! You're right about this Cheers mate!!!
I'm seriously enjoying how much love for Linux is in the comments here. It's such a great system!
MX Linux baby... so great to use
It brings me back that feeling of using Windows 7 or even Windows XP at times. It's just a system that doesn't get in your way
@@FeelingShred Yeah - a very pretty out of the box solution. One of the problems with the amount of distros - available is which one to choose. Usually I deviate between MX, Lubuntu and Mint.
@@CobraFat2000 Great selection there. Any of these 3 will offer the "windows 7 experience" for people looking for that. Simpler times. Back in control over your computer, feels so good.
I think the inevitable "11 Reasons why Recording on a MAC is better than PC" video is going to be a spicy one. As an almost perpetual PC user, I am on the verge of setting my Windows 10 PC on fire due to frustration. Its way more than bad drivers, bad energy settings, or not being able to have the fucking wifi on while tracking without drop outs, pops, clicks and the whole orchestra of glitches that Windows so generously provides. Yes, I have ASIO, yes I upgraded my interface, yes I've optimized the energy plan. I have reinstalled Windows at least a half a dozen times and nothing, no improvement, ndis.sys DPC routine still shits itself, I have more hours on latencymon than on Skyrim. I work in design and I'm used to multitasking between Photoshop, illustrator, and After Effects with ease on the company MAC and I occasionally steal a few hours here and there working on my music on it and its just such a breeze. I wouldn't even dream about trying to multitask in that way on my home PC. It is very true what Glenn says about MAC and the fact that it just works and that if you can't afford to fuck around and waste time troubleshooting every possible variable, MAC its the way to go.
That is also why Glenn says that you can buy a PC pre optimized for such tasks.
Optimizing one yourself can be a long and tedious task if you aren't a PC geek or got a hard time searching for the right solutions.
I got a newer MacBook Pro, but never used it for audio and video since it only gives me disadvantages compared to using my desktop PC.
@@JoeBaermann I consider myself a PC geek, at least for the software side of things, I've fucked around with the console and the registry with great success for other stuff related for example to hdmi video and audio, but getting audio to work in my DAWs in the way that is intended has been probably the most frustrating thing that I've encountered in windows. At the moment I can't afford one, but my next studio purchase will be a Mac mini.
@@diegoxxxbc
Those new Mac minis do look pretty promissing, besides that the price isn't to steep either.
Should also be a lot easier to get started with as long as you don't have to get licenses for new software to replace Windows only software.
Some Linux distros should also be pretty good out of the box for audio work, but might require one to use another DAW etc.
As for DAW's on Windows and your experience, it depends a lot on all the components in your build.
Some of the tweaks you can find on the net will even have the opposite effect dependent on Windows version and specific hardware.
I mainly disable/remove everything I don't use and try a tweak at a time with every new build/component, it is a lot easier with Windows 10 and 11 than previous Windows versions though, my Windows tweak script collection today is pretty minimal today compared to a few years ago, most of them are just for personal preference.
Back in the 90's we still used tape and DAT even before moving it onto a PC, tracking was horrible on a PC at that time, besides that there really wasn't anything like Pro Tools rack-units for PC back then.
Have you made sure that the audio device is not set to be taken exclusive control by programs? You will.find it in the audio device preferences>more options(or something)>advanced options. It's a check box in there. Sorry not at my computer or else.i would have exact directions
I also noticed that a lot of PC users that used to get cheapo computers and laptops, get pissed, break the bank for an expensive Mac often declare it superior :)
beyond brands, you get what you pay for.
Macs usually have decent specs (except on the GPU front), and good build quality.
There are lots of PCs like that.. but there's an even greater amount of hardware that is built to barely power on at the store.
I can't remember the last time i saw an error message on windows, let alone a BSOD, simply because i save to get good parts, and most importantly, i don't share the damn computer with anyone :p
So well said. Thank you.
GLEEEEEEN! Interesting video, but now I need to ask: I recently upgraded my laptop to 32 gigs of RAM, and Reaper is not utilizing them accordingly. Adobe Audition (which I hate) takes about 3 min to render a 25 track podcast, while Reaper is taking over 10 min! I noticed Reaper is only using less than 2 gigs of RAM while rendering, while Audition is using waaaaaaay more. How do you handle rendering times on your rig? Cheers!
Did you check your bios and make sure your ram is actually running at its full potential?
This can also simply be the encoding of the program itself, and your hardware. I run reaper and it tends to run slower than some things, but this type of issue is mostly focused on your Cpu performance, not your ram. If you're running a ryzen 5800 and 8 gigs of ram on ddr 4 at 3200hz, it will school an intel 4690k with 32 gigs of ram on ddr3 at 2133hz.
The base model M1 Mac Mini is pretty impressive for the cost though.
The main problem of the M1 processors is that some DAWs and lots of plugins don't work (or don't work natively). Like Ableton and JST plugins, which I always use in my Win10 pc, they don't work or need to be run through Rosetta.
It's getting better for sure, but once Apple won't make any other Intel-based PC I'd like to see if the princing of the M1s will still be the same
@@SergioBianchini11 that's only a short term issue though. Since Apple have the lion's share of the market, once the Apple Silicon transition is complete, software developers will have no choice but to make their software ARM compatible.
@@stefan_hauk can i use only UAD plugins or they also depend on processor?
Sadly, a lot of the issues with Apple are becoming issues with PCs too. Except it tends to be more poorly implemented. Dell and HP and Lenovo are soldering more and more hardware to the boards. Brands like Acer, Alienware, Origin, Razer, etc are trying to become lifestyle brands too. And as you've said before: if you don't want to have driver issues and just have your audio gear work, use a Mac.
Brilliant video.
I fully agree with your points. Congratulations!
I've been using Mac since I got a Mac book for my high school graduation back in 2011. I really like the workflow with OSX. If I prefer PC, I would still be using that. My composition professor in college always said "It doesn't matter what you use, as long as you can provide results." So I use what I like and that can get me the results I need.
It also helps getting discounts on Apple products, too.
I switched to Mac in 05 because there was no way to use multiple interfaces (before aggregate drivers) my older 2012 Mac pro 8 core 128 gb ram, 6 hdd like I have is a great machine and I've never had to do anything to it since I've had it except use it.. tire right about apple now, but the old ones are still pretty good
I agree that older apple products were better. I have and still use an I Pod classic that is 13/14 years old and it still works like a charm and it was built like a fucking tank. Dropped it more times than I can count and it has never done more than work perfectly and collect a few minor scratches after a decade of daily use
Will you be reviewing the Sweetwater Custom Computing CS400 4U Professional Audio and Video Production Workstation? It's been out for a while now and it looks promising. Would love your opinion on it.
You convinced me! My next computer will definitely be a PC now! I’m still new to audio production so forgive me if this is a dumb question but my audio interfaces are registered with my mac, is it going to be difficult to change them to be registered with my PC?
Bad idea
As a guy that had built and sold computers for many years I can say that overall PC is superior when you count the price:performance ratio. For the money PC has always been better value, but prior to the windows 10 release using a PC for music was hit and miss. For me and my i7 rig I built in 2012 using Studio One with my windows rig sucked.
That said, I am getting myself a new Mac Mini with the M1 chip (for photo, music and videos). For the price this new M1 processor is killing it. Hopefully it will be all it's cracked up to be and most companies will have their software programmed for it rather than running through the windows translator thingy.
If you're on the fence I'd say get a PC, it's way less of an investment for the performance.
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here:
1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac.
2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means
3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases.
4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC.
6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones?
7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro
MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too.
8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac.
9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument.
10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection?
11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
@@Emcfree2084 This is actually a great point!
@@Redhotlugnut I would argue that the only bad thing about PC's in general, and about the origins of it, is how it all started out possible due to Bill Gates' father money in banking and politics ties like UN and other deep rabbit holes, his mother was also on these political ties. Bloody money. But it's undeniable how much freedom PC's bought into the market. Amiga's and Commodore's were great too, but they always had limitations that kept their users with their hands tied on what they could achieve. PC was the real first platform that gave users COMPLETE FREEDOM not only in terms of software but specially in terms of hardware too. But then someone else could go even further and argue that the real technological innovation came decades earlier with the likes of Wozniak (Apple) basically inventing a portable computer (Personal Computer) and that was the real "guy on his garage" from rags to riches story
@@FeelingShred yeah dude, I bought a Playstation instead of Xbox as Gates and his father (who started planned parenthood and is a well known eugenics guy) Gates and his bogus foundation being touted as doing all this great work when instead they just buy stuff from their friends with the donation money. Is a giant scam. I live in Uganda and they come with all their vaccines and crap when they could come and setup villages with better sanitation and easier access to clean water, this would eradicate many diseases. Instead it's all vaccine based because that's where the biggest profits are!
Lol, I didn't want to get political but here we are lol.
All those guys at the start with any sort of skills did well unless they were idiots. So many opportunities for developing platforms etc. I saw that Jobs and Gates worked at Atari! Haha. Anyway, Gates is total scum in my eyes but, if I had to build a gaming pc anytime soon, it would obviously be a PC.
Next video: “11 reasons why recording on Linux is better than windows”
Yes, please!
Linux would be great if more folks supported JACK
This was great :)
I've not done AE "for a living" for several years so am now just (like your primary sub base) a home recordist and loving it. Re the firewire comment. Bang on! I have no reason to upgrade my FF400 at this point. My old rig had an integrated FW 400 port that was a VIA driver and apparently wasn't supposed to work but it did. I did have a SIIG pci-e card (with the crucial Ti chipset - My old MBook PRO uses the Ti chipset, credit to MAC) and added it to the new DAW I built last xmas and life is good.
Recording on Linux is God-level... Everything is free with the penguin buds!
What god level? It's the same, you only have slightly different tools available (most of plugins you use will be not the same as on Windows or Mac), and get a grasp of how to manage software on your Linux machine, that's the hardest part. Everything else is a breeze.
This video made me feel so utterly satisfied and content Glen. I agree 100% with every point you make. I can't stand Apple's sleazy and dictatorial business model with their planned obsolescence totally responsible for stuff going to landfill.
So you've not tried the windows 11 compatibility checker?
@@k53847 That thing is there to prevent PC vendors from cheaping out when speccing new machines, but you can easily install Windows 11 on super old hardware. Yeah, it might discourage some people, but then again it's only those that maybe shouldn't do any computer stuff without help from others or at least googling it first. If Apple only put some warnings on old stuff, that'd be fine.
Hey Glenn. Love your show! I bought an old Lenovo Thinkpad after watching Adam Steele do a video on running Reaper on a $150 laptop a couple years back. I threw a 1tb SSD in it and it works great. It has 12gb RAM, which is more than I’ll ever need. The only thing that’s hurting my workflow is the CPU, which maxes at maybe 2.7 ghz. I can do smaller projects fine if I render or freeze tracks and max the buffer rate. All the tricks to max your cpu I’ve researched and applied to my workflow. As I move onto larger projects I feel like I might need something more powerful. I’ve been thinking of upgrading to a PC Desktop, or maybe a Sweetwater Creation Station that fits right into my rack or something. Do you think that’s worth it, or maybe just try upgrading the CPU in what I already have?
As a PC builder who also plays bass and has a budding interest in recording (thanks for all the useful tips and tricks Glenn), I'd like to chime in. If you don't absolutely NEED a new PC right now, put it off for a year or more. Due to many factors, new PCs are often as much as a Mac these days. I had to refund all my customer's custom PC builds in mid 2020 because getting parts at anything close to MSRP is next to impossible still, and likely will be until 2024 at the earliest.
You could probably go to one of the larger system integrators (Microcenter is amazing if you have one near you) and get a system that would work for you without selling a kidney. But you could also get a Mac for the same price, and dollar for dollar the Mac would be a better choice for most people right now (I say that as someone who HATES Macs; it hurts genuinely recommending a Mac).
@@wesleybrehm9386 since you seem to have a lot of knowledge on the topic, I definitely need to upgrade my current laptop (crappy HP I3 core processor😭). I’m using reaper and pro tools atm, looking to switch to Logic, FL studio or Ableton. What laptop besides the new Mac M1 would be able to handle these programs, preferably around $1,000?
That's what I was thinking the entire time. Now you came along and confirmed it.
Here's a shocking 3rd idea: build a PC and install Linux on it.
Build a PC and deconstruct it again because you forgot the processor.
Couldn't be me of course
Coffee shop hipsters can do it because they have a MacBook battery can last for hours and hours :). I still have nightmares about my Dell and HP laptops which would last maximum for two hours and sometimes shutdown unexpectedly. And that is without any significant load. I bought my first MacBook Pro in 2010 the same year I bought my HP laptop. My 2010 MacBook Pro is still working(only replaced the battery four years ago), my HP laptop lasted for two years before battery died, and display started to show artifacts. I have never had any other laptops other than Apple since then.
true that, I'm still working on a MacBook pro from 2012. still works like a charm. i doubt the same would apply for windows.
still use a windows pc for my real job
Good video glen
It's been this way for 16 years. This is a great video. Lotta laughs along the way :)
I've been using Windows my entire life. A couple months back I switched from my super old shitty PC to M1 Mac mini, it works great and does everything I need it to do. I don't hate neither PC or Mac, I just enjoy having a good fast computer.
It’s hilarious he is decades out of date but is making fun of others for being out of date
Hey man how about doing music production on a Linux Ubuntu system? The main advantage is that the operating system is open source, free and run in any hardware. It would be amazing to see you put that to the
test and get your opinion!
Not all Linux distros are free. Not all Linux distros will run on all hardware. Reaper isn't open source, nor is it free.
I run reaper on Linux.
Thanks Glen! This was a very useful video that potentially will save kids a lot of money! I was afraid you might jump on the mac train for good when you started the hackintoch project. Very relieved now👍
I hope you are making good ad revenue Glen. I had 4 ad breaks in this video!
You dont have to pay double price when you record on a pc. Better specs. Lower price. Works fine . Apples prices are absolutely ridiculous!
Yes but you can get older macs for a couple hundred dollars that work great if you replace hard drive with ssd and make sure it's compatible with catalina. I paid 360 for a mac with a cracked screen on ebay I use. I love pc for gaming, but mac for me has increase my audio game 10 fold from going to audacity to garageband is a huge jump. Either way though as long as you are happy and it works for you that is great. I just want everybody to know both are affordable with the right research
Upfront cost vs total cost of ownership. Macs are cheaper overall but more when you buy generally.
Me watching this on a PC running Linux: Interesting :D
no, u need mac
How is Linux with ASIO these days?
Do you have any advice my friend or a video on how to fix the MIDI issues with Windows 10 please. I brought a new i7 especially for it and I can't get it to work. Any help would be thoroughly appreciated
Thanks Glen.
I've switched to M1 from a high end thinkpad with xeon processor . Never looked back since. On paper PCs look better but in terms of actual experience, my macbook air is the best laptop i've ever owned. It's super fast and completely silent, the battery life is amazing, keyboard and screen top notch, best trackpad...
Anyway it's an old debate, if you're happy on PC than good for you. It took me a long time before taking the jump but with these new chips, Apple became in a league of it's own. And sure the M1 pro and max are expensive but you can get an entry level macbook air with m1 for 1000 bucks or even a mac mini for less.
first hahaha (yes this is the least insightful comment imaginable but yes, pc is better bang for your buck and much more open-source stuff on windows and Linux)
That was informative and hilarious. Definitely not sixteen minutes that I can't have back. :-)
Good points. I do think the mac mini is fairly priced and might be a good audio workstation. I’m currently using my home build pc though.
I don’t know. I’ve had a Mac for about 5 years now with zero issues or problems. It just does what I want without getting in my way.
I bought the M1 Mac Mini in 2020 for $800CAD and it destroys my PC at all things Audio and Video. I don't even think I could get a GPU for under $800 these days.
Where can we get your t-shirt? Love it!
Loved this.
Now with Apple Silicon, I would say that laptops are even cheaper than PC, if you compare similar configurations of course. We will see what they will drop on desktop workstation stuff.
Can you give one example of what you are saying? If you compre a PC and a Mac with the same price, the PC always wins on the specs.
@@PATRICKJLM look at the new MacBook Air that for 999 dollars has no competition on that price range both in power (the CPU is a monster) and power consumption (the battery lasts even more than 20 hours).
@@rullopat the CPUs in the MacBooks are nowhere close to "monsters" and they don't have enough ram at base configuration. 20 hour battery life is a marketing lie, and don't even get me started on how much they charge for hdd space.
@@foxmulder5379 the one that lie about 10h don't have it neither :D And yes, check the benchmarks because the M1 CPU has the same performance of the older MacBook 16 and literally destroys a Lenovo Yoga with i9.
Benchmarks are synthetic, they don't really mean much when it comes to real workloads. The m1 chip is a quick quad core with 4 extra "efficiency cores" meaning that it cannot multitask nearly as fast as a true 6 or 8 core CPU. When running plugins and daws, you feel that performance drop pretty quick.
As a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer, my loyalty to Windows and PCs is pretty strong. I thought I'd start with that because I don't want to be accused of being a Mac devotee.
I was pretty disappointed with this video because almost every complaint came down to cost. How much someone pays for their equipment does not necessarily affect their recording experience. If an engineer were to enter a studio with a top of the line Mac next to a top of the line PC and cost was not an issue, would one system provide a better experience than the other? Even if the improvement were small, and the cost is ridiculously higher, someone out there is willing to pay the extra money for that little bit of an edge. I'd like to know what that edge is, or there is an edge going with PC versus Mac.
Time to update your certs homie, the MCSE isn't a thing anymore... :P
@@crustiepunk77 I’m in a position where I don’t have to worry about renewing my certifications any longer, but I didn’t know they retired the MCSE as a title. I just thought there wasn’t going to be course toward becoming an MCSE moving forward.
I have been a longtime user of both systems, and am no Mac zealot. But I will say that my Macs have always lasted a lot longer than my PCs before biting the dust. So, in the end, the cost pretty much evens out. Yes, you pay more for a Mac, but in my experience it lasts three times longer.
@@braunhausmedia my experience as well. i still have 15 years old mbp which works
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here:
1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac.
2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means
3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases.
4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC.
6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones?
7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro
MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too.
8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac.
9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument.
10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection?
11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
I'm one of those "Cakewalk guys", having used it since the MIDI only, original version. It didn't take much to convince clients that they were in good hands, and I worked on many high end projects with it over the years. But convincing other productions that it would work was a different story. When OMF files came into the picture, I was finally able to say to industry peers, "send me the project and I'll send it back". I feel like that's the last hurdle with audio sequencing tech: interchangeable projects that also, somehow, contain the processing chain. As it stands, you'd all have to own and have the same VST's and DAWs. Anyway, what a wonderful time to be a musician with the patience to really learn audio mixing/engineering. What the future may hold is really mindboggling, I think.
Watching this on my 11 year old MBP that I also record and mix all my projects on, but I do agree with a lot of the points in your video and the annoyances. It seems like the older Macs might actually be better built, and after an SSD upgrade this one is still damn fast but it admittedly lacks sufficient horsepower for anything other than home use. Also, I might be a bit stuffed when they withdraw Catalina support. I'll get a PC then if i can run Logic on it! ;)
I built and repaired PCs for decades and always had a high-end laptop or desktop (usually both). But at some point I got sick of constant updates, driver issues, incompatibility issues, and invasive Windows bullshit. Now that I'm old and lame I just want something that works, period. I turn on my MacBook Pro and it's ready to go, and there's no driver conflicts and I don't feel like I always have to tune it up to keep it running at it's best.
Another thing I love about my MacBook is the build quality. It's amazing. If you want that type of construction with a PC you'll have to get a Razer Blade or something along those lines and at that point you're shelling out big money anyway.
Hipsters suck, I can't stand the whole "lifestyle" aspect of Apple and I avoid that nonsense. My laptop is a tool not a status symbol.
And to be honest, it's easier to sail the seas on a Mac if you know what I mean. Download a .dmg and boom. Don't have to set up dozens of rules in your firewall to block outgoing connections, don't have to mount an ISO image in another program, etc.
Finally, I love Logic Pro. Simple as that.
There's nothing wrong at all with PC, I was a rabid IBM fanboy most of my life. Building them is a blast and the power-to-price ratio compared to Apple is significant. It's all about personal choice, just use what you enjoy and to hell with all the hype and nonsense.
this guy just doesn't miss huh
glad to see i'm not the only one advocating for recording on pc hahah
Thank you
You know this man should be wearing a red cap and I love it. Keep up the good work :)
I've tried using Windows for my home studio and it drove me absolutely insane, nothing worked, I had to re-install everything like 5 times just to get it to work, and then finally got something recorded, the next morning nothing worked once again, so I had to go back to re-installing and honestly after a week of spending 90% of my time troubleshooting I switched back to MacOS. Yes, in the past MacOS was far more expensive, but it's rock solid. Also, now I do all of my production on a $1,200 MacBook Air with M1 and it runs like an absolute dream, the performance is insane, the battery lasts forever, and I've never had any issues with it at all.
I have to say. I've been custom building my PC towers through HP, and they're pretty bad ass. Their latest Omens are very very nice. You can outfit them with flagship chips from AMD or Intel, great motherboards, excellent memory and storage, and a sturdy, slick design. For the same specks over at Apple you'd pay twice as much. Although the Apple OS is a lot more user friendly than Windows imo. But once you're in your DAW it really stops to matter.
Windows does take a bit more to tune up and keep up, but it really doesn't matter once you get everything going.
And don't buy into the lie that apples can't be hacked. I once fried my MacBook's hard drive with some virus. Made it unusable.
💯
Having both, I always wonder what is so much "more user friendly" about macs?
I find some of it absolutely unusable. The first 6 months of using a mac, I had to Google how to do things every day, because it was so unintuitive.
@@Zolbat I'm definitely not defending Apple, or Windows for that matter. I work in tech, and truth be told, most human technology is hacky, and full of holes. You make the best of it as long as it lasts, and then inevitably require an update, a patch, a revision, etc. I still have yet to come across the "good stuff", the good tech that just works... So whatever does the trick, but don't hope for much more. It's the world we live in. Unfortunately, most people don't fully know what they are doing.
@@tiadiad true, I work in tech myself (I'm a dev), and working with macs and iOS is always a "they can't be f_ing serious" experience
hey what up? so what do you think about fender buying presonus ????
Excellent video GLEEEEEEENNN!
Now, it would be great to have your objectivity and perspective focused on some experienced comments on LINUX for audio (and anything else if You want) to keep on the track of opening eyes, beating expenses and achieving great results as the ultimate goal. Time is the most expensive resource... then may be money itself. Too many people are afraid of Linux OSs without even trying some distributions before expressing their opinions.
Thanks and keep it going!!!
Saludos desde México!
I work with Macs at my job.I recently got one of the new M1 MacBooks and am impressed. The laptops before always had the fan running when I had to push them a bit. The new one does not. I didn't hear the fan at all and I honestly am not sure if it has one. The battery lasts for ages. I didn't push the laptop, but I had an eight hour day and I got all my work done including video calls etc. Audio is an afterthought for this one, but I am impressed with the M1 and am thinking about getting a Mac Mini for home. Just for my hobby recordings and non-job related stuff. Yeah, I know it's expensive, but I get one package that performs well, I know the OS (better than Windows anyway) and it will work with my iPhone. These are good enough reasons for me to consider a purchase.
Chromebooks don't use fans and they are a lot cheaper....All computers nowadays are exceptional, except for 3D.. M1 can't help you with that.
I sense a corresponding "11 Reasons Why Recording on a Mac is better than a PC" video coming shortly. Regardless, you really need to update your performance generalities given the new M1max chip. Your price points complaints are still relevant. I am a PC guy but I am not religious about this stuff.
Glad to see someone not joining in with the Mac bashing, I too remain agnostic about both, I have switched to an M1 Mac mini because you you simply can't come close to this performance for music for $699 so even the price thing isn't a big deal any more. (My laptop for other work and general use is still a PC, not paying the Mac prices for a laptop, that's not going to happen).
@@trevfisher yeah you can
The mop headed 80s throwback removes any comments that disagree with him, so just going to post this rebuttal here:
1. Price - Macs work out much cheaper once resale value is taken into account. Windows can be run on Mac, but not the other way around so many people only need the one Mac.
2. Lifestyle - Don’t know any pros who choose Mac for lifestyle reasons whatever that means
3. Compatibility - Macs are generally far more reliable, but recently Apple have been transitioning to Apple silicon which has meant compatibility issues with the last few releases.
4&5. Upgradability - One of the main reasons they are more reliable is that they can’t be user built/changed. The higher resale value also means they can be easily sold on and replaced and Apple hardware and software famously go on for years and far more than others. Timemachine means a system can be completely swapped out in less than an hour and far simpler than with a PC.
6. Obsolescence - FireWire is very old now, but still hung around for ages and MacBooks have used exclusively USB-C/Thunderbolt for several generations. MacBooks do still have headphone jacks, so you mean phones?
7. Sound - Mic and speakers on pro
MacBooks better than any other consumer system by a long way. Semi pro quality headphone amps built in too.
8. Hackintosh - Not reliable, complicated and being phased out now with Apple silicon. Just use a Mac if you want to use Mac.
9. Free Plug-ins - Lots of free plugins on Mac, most free plugins rubbish anyway and those which aren’t available have cheap/free alternatives. The fact you recommended a bunch of Pc plugins seems to be a very weak argument.
10. 2021 not 1991 - New Macs are at the cutting edge of technology and provide size, power and silent advantages that PC can’t currently match for audio production. Was this projection?
11. Don’t let some a-hole fanboy misdirect you - Definitely projection
SpectreSoundStudios - thanks bro, this video helped me to decide to stick with Mac ... the whole industry standard thing was making me consider Mac for my next upgrade which is coming up soon !!!
Great video as usual Glenn! Would you like to take a look at Linux and recording on Linux? I know you once said there's no reason to use Linux instead of Windows for music production, but it's still worth trying, there's a great channel about audio production on Linux called Unfa, this guy is mainly electronic music producer, despite being clearly a metalhead, but he records live instruments and voice as well. Most of Windows advantages over Mac mentioned in this video will also apply to Linux, especially free plugins (technically this video is not only about Windows, but I guess it was mostly about it, except for the Hackintosh of course). Also, if I understand correctly, on Linux you can use multiple inferfaces at the same time, which is possible on Mac but not on Windows, at least using JACK Audio Connection Kit.
Unfa is awesome. Probably the best channel when it comes to Linux audio.
Personally, I use Ubuntu Studio, and it's just great for pretty much anything you throw at it. The main drawback with Linux is that you're limited with using VSTs, but LADSPA and lv2 plugins can do a lot of the same things.
And yes, JACK does allow multiple interfaces!
I have tried Logic Pro and its alternatives, along with Final Cut Pro and its alternatives. For me, I’m at the point where I’m locked into those pro apps. I’m super excited to get the M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16”.
Historically, Apple has had the lowest latency of an audio chain thanks to how the OS handles the audio. That was actually a key decision back in 2013 for me.
and the amount of latency that is actually noticeable by either environment is zero so... cool
2013 mac was full of latency my i5 samsung killed the top mac using a focusrite, just learn how to config ASIO and you're done.
Tbh, ASIO seems to have even less latency thatn coreaudio on macs and I'm not sure if you can use anything else other than coreaudio on macs...
@@bemep0k no idea, i just used the default focusrite asio driver + ableton and the mac was using the one that cames by default with it + ableton.
I'm kind of confused ... out of all 11 items only 1 of them is directly related to the act of recording (Yes, there are way more plugins on PC because it has a much larger user base). The rest of the items are just kind of, eh, whatever? Having recorded on both, just use whatever you want, they both get the job done.
Also .. what does Mac being featured in Starbucks have to do with its ability to record songs? Hipsters are allowed to listen to their shitty music too, Glen.
I got the M1 Mac Mini for about $1k with the 16GB of RAM and have been able to run Studio One, Logic, and DaVinci Resolve just fine. The plugins I have, have not been converted to run natively yet, but are working with Rosetta. I got a Mac just because I already had the rest of the ecosystem, but I wasn’t a huge macOS fan. To be honest, I agree with all the points here, with the caveat that you can score a decently priced Mac with the Mini. I had been thinking of building a PC o a Hackingtosh, but given the running totals for the equipment I had listed, I went with the mini and saved myself some time. I still used PCs for work, so you won’t find me at Starbucks. If you don’t know what to get, let your pocket decide, either way you should be good to go with either option. Great video Glen!
I am a PC user myself (Win10+10700k), but I have learned by experience with recent M1 chips, that you cant compare Apple and PC on specs anymore.
Indeed M1 ARM chip on Mac's has changed the game.