These are the presentation marks she should have gotten at the Olympics.... But don't get me wrong, I think Tara was a HUGE talent. I just wished she had stayed around longer competitively so we could have enjoyed her skating more. She did bring a lot of joy to the ice.
@@lflagr No way. Tara was overrated. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed. Tara's technique wasn't stable.
She is good but doesnt have a womans body or the maturity to make it a true womans figure skate..she looks more like a Junior...jumps arent everything.
She wasn't the first to do a triple loop-triple loop combination. Eric Millot of France had done it two years earlier. Tara's here wasn't great but at the Olympics, she nailed it.
Michelle Kwan is The Greatest female figure skater in women's skating History. little Tara just jumps pretty good but that's not skating To Me and Tara Will never and Couldn't even get close to the Mark's of Kwan for presentation merit. Kwan is The foreshadowed champion of 98' and pretty much 02' either way One of the games should have been Hers but She's still 9x USA champion and 5x World champion. Kwan is The Greatest female figure skater. Tara retired early because she knew that she was only A jumper and not Kwan's equal. Michelle Kwan is The Greatest.
Yu Na Kim, Mao Asada, Sonja Henie, Kristi Yamaguchi, Dorothy Hamill, Peggy Fleming, Katarina Witt, are all superior to Kwan for me. And most of those have better credentials too.
Greatest in women's history? with her flutz and weak ass technical programs? lmfao i have to laugh. She was during her time but she isnt the greatest in all history.
@@milkybum6339 You're sick. Michelle got 5 World medals and 9 US titles. Michelle got the most 6.0 ( 57 times ) in the figure skating history. Michelle finished no lower than 3rd place between 1995 ~2004 ( continued more than Yuna kim ). Michelle got into the World Figure skating Hall of Fame. Enjoy it.
@@renzstaines1100 Michelle's artistry and technique were great, enjoy it or not and that's your problem. Michelle was the most important and popular skater in her era, and at least to be one of the greatest skaters in the history. Michelle had many classic programs, whatever you said and nobody cares. Lol
Truth is she didn't need to win this. She just needed to make the team which she did. Once she made the team she could've done anything and she did. Michelle will forever be my favorite skater, but I will give Tara the props she is due.
Jose Hill props? she's a jumper and she was rushing and sloppy. she's not Michelle Kwan and was never going to be Michelle Kwan. because you are right, Michelle Kwan is The Greatest female figure skater Ever. besides she was like 14. based on age rules of Olympic teams, Kwan should have been 98' Gold medalist. not Tara. because she won and retired from the sport shortly after. But Michelle Kwan kept going with 9 Us championship and 5 World championships in the Kwan Era and A silver and bronze at the Olympics. Kwan is The Best. Tara is just a jumper.
She never should have gotten presentation marks higher than she got here. These were actually rather generous, considering that this is the basically the same program she skated in 1997, only with different music (the only difference is a triple toe in the second combo--in 1997 she did a double axel and added a solo 3T at the end). But so much for "feeling the music."
For you youngins’, the scores back then were all about placement. Judges determined which skater should be 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. and then scored accordingly. If a specific judge scored Tara above Michelle, he/she was saying Tara deserved first place. It was a highly subjective system that led to a lot of sketchy judging. Especially back during the days of the Soviet Union.
Actually, Michelle's artistry and technique were better than Tara. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Her performance just like a kid. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed.
I am a big Michelle kwan admirer so it pains me to say this, but no she should not have. Tara's program was more difficult and more challenging. Tara also improved on her artistry in her skating and it shows. To add to that, Tara's technicality was superior. I understand maybe Michelle is your favorite to watch (mine too) but sometimes our favorites don't actually get first place. Tara had a riskier program and she pulled it off. I am not some fan of Tara's, I'm just being as objective as possible. I think Tara was more ambitious and she went after what she wanted until she got it.
@@heatherramsey9190 Funny. Michelle kept top for more than 20 years and her longevity was unreal. Tara had a short life on the ice, what a joy that a kid like Tara retired. Michelle's artistry and technique were better than Tara. Michelle's performance was classic, beautiful and womanly. Tara's performance just like a kid. People couldn't ask more artistry of a kid like Tara...well, she just was a kid and should go to the kid's Olympics. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. And Tara didn't really make a correct 3+3, she got hurt by the jumps, then she grew up, then she retired....Tara was overrated and Michelle was robbed. Lucky Tara.
She has landed the triple loop triple loop flawlessly many times, but this was her worst one! She was an amazing talent and was one of the few female skaters to land 2 triple triples in a program. Wished she didnt retire so soon though. she could have atleast tried to fix her flutz. Nonetheless, I miss her bubbly energy and the competitive drive both she and Michelle had which is seriously lacking with our current ladies.
Or, in another more accurate way, Tara won the gold and sadly Michelle fans will have to deal with that instead of stewing on it forever. I actually like both skaters so am not being biased in my opinion that the gold was Tara's and not just for the jumps. Michelle did not skate with the same fluidity and joy that she did at Nationals, if she had, she probably would have won. But Tara skated with a freedom and lightness that complimented the athleticism and, IMO, thoroughly deserved the win.
How does that sloppy program deserve 5.9s? I don’t understand the scoring system if 6 is a perfect score and that mess of a program was deemed almost perfect.
This always confused people and is one reason that this scoring system was horrible. The marks don't mean anything outside the current competition. They essentially ranked the skaters. If you skated last and did better than everyone else, you could be awarded a 6 even if not perfect. A 5.9 at one competition didn't equal a 5.9 at another competition. The marks were not the same as points, they were called ordinals. It was cooky and led to easier favoritism by judges.
Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. That's why her jumps unstable, she couldn't stop grow up and everything changed. Like the Russian girls today, Tara retired soon, a short life on the ice.
People couldn't ask more artistry of a kid like Tara..she was a kid and never had chance to be a truly woman style like Michelle. Tara should go to the kid's Olympics and have fun with the Russian girls today...a lot of happy puppy. Tara had a short life on the ice, didn't good enough to join the 2002 Olympics because her technique was unstable and got hurt by the incorrect triple triple combo....Tara grew up..without a kid's body and weight that she couldn't jump anymore. Michelle's artistry and technique were great and hard to close for the other skaters because she kept top for more than 10 years. Michelle never gave up and had a great career. Why Tara gave up so easy ? Did Tara deserve the Olympics spirit ? Amen.
That is a flawed comparision. Her Olympic performance was much better than this. Her presentation marks were as high as they were at the Olympics too since the 2nd mark is the tiebeaker and the judges who felt she deserved to win overall had to score as such.
Back in the day when I watched her skate I thought she was just awesome and ahead of her time but watching this 20 years later that was the most mediocre blah program ever. It's nothing but jumps arm movements more jumps.
Troy Turner Their styles are completely different. Why are you so bent on saying this ON one of Tara's videos? Bitter grapes much? Get over it. There is no doubt Michelle is/was an fabulous skater and artist, but to ignore Tara's obvious natural performance ability just because it is different or less obvious is just plain ignorant.
You're wrong. Michelle's artistry and technique were better than Tara. Different programs, so they had different speed. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed. Michelle kept top for more than 10 years, Tara had a short life on the ice.
Without a kid's body and weight, Tara was nothing. She had a incorrect 3+3 at 1998 Olympics, her performance was like a happy puppy. Tara was overrated.
@@TT-ee4qp NOPE NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 3+3 BUT 24 YEARS LATER AND YOU'RE STILL A SOUR GRAPE??? WTF!!! AND OH MOTHER, STOP ACTIN LIKE A KID AND STOP COMPLAININ AND GET OVER IT AND NOTHIN MORE, OK???
@@TT-ee4qp OH REALLY?? NO WONDER SHE GOT INJURED SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO STOP SHE GOT GREEDY FOR GOLD AND DIN'T STOP AND SHE DIDN'T GET GOLD ANYWAY WTF.. AND NOPE, NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 3+3 BUT 24 YEARS LATER AND YOU'RE STILL A SOUR GRAPE??? WTF!!! AND OH MOTHER, STOP ACTIN LIKE A KID AND STOP BEIN MISERABLE AND GET OVER IT ALREADY AND NOTHIN MORE, OK???
Triple loop triple loop wan't a slight lean, it was a half turn cheat. Oh the 90's were so funny and at times very bad when it came to bad edges and cheated jumps.
Oh shush...She's incredible. She's 15 in this, I believe! Also, this was 1998 and ice skating has come so far since then. Anyways, I think she looks like she's floating on a cloud
Tara's flip and lutz would be called out for under rotation today. Tara's triples were cheap. Tiny, rushed jumps. Under the new system, Tara's technique wouldn't get marks.
All haters can expel their gall and bitterness. it doesn't matter that she finished 2nd for the nationals. tara belongs to the figure skating history. She took the Olympic gold medal for her daring, her joy, her triple triple combination, her two triple jumps at the end of the program, her step sequences. And Michelle kwan had nothing, never an Olympic gold medal because she thought in 1998 that she could win just with elegance and academic programs and in 2002 by having fired Franck Carol and Lorie Nichols to be trained by herself and her father ... a pretentious
Tara was overrated and Michelle was robbed at 1998. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed. Tara didn't really make a correct 3+3 at 1998 Olympics, she got hurt by the jumps, her performance was like a kid......She should go to the kid's Olympics .
Michelle got 5 World medals and 9 US titles , she got the most 6.0 in the history, she got into the World Figure skating Hall of Fame. Tara ? Lol...Without a kid's body and weight, Tara was nothing.
@@debsam77 Michelle kwan had triple triple combo since 1995 ~ 2005 ( not every time ) , which means her technique was stable and better than the other skaters like Tara had triple triple combo just for 2~ 3 years. 😆 Unfortunately, Michelle got hurt ( her toes ) before the Olympics, so lucky Tara.......(≧ω≦)/
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I love when he says "she needs to win the free skate and have a third place finish by Michelle Kwan or lower, in order to win the championship"
These are the presentation marks she should have gotten at the Olympics.... But don't get me wrong, I think Tara was a HUGE talent. I just wished she had stayed around longer competitively so we could have enjoyed her skating more. She did bring a lot of joy to the ice.
actually with those presentation marks, she probably would have still won gold at the olympics, no?
@@lflagr No way. Tara was overrated. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed. Tara's technique wasn't stable.
She is good but doesnt have a womans body or the maturity to make it a true womans figure skate..she looks more like a Junior...jumps arent everything.
@@TT-ee4qpbased on all your strange posts everywhere YOU sound not stable.
She wasn't the first to do a triple loop-triple loop combination. Eric Millot of France had done it two years earlier. Tara's here wasn't great but at the Olympics, she nailed it.
Deborah Nolan Gregory She was the first lady to do it though.
A roller skating jump--LOL!
She started out as a roller skater.
Michelle Kwan is The Greatest female figure skater in women's skating History. little Tara just jumps pretty good but that's not skating To Me and Tara Will never and Couldn't even get close to the Mark's of Kwan for presentation merit. Kwan is The foreshadowed champion of 98' and pretty much 02' either way One of the games should have been Hers but She's still 9x USA champion and 5x World champion. Kwan is The Greatest female figure skater. Tara retired early because she knew that she was only A jumper and not Kwan's equal. Michelle Kwan is The Greatest.
Yu Na Kim, Mao Asada, Sonja Henie, Kristi Yamaguchi, Dorothy Hamill, Peggy Fleming, Katarina Witt, are all superior to Kwan for me. And most of those have better credentials too.
Greatest in women's history? with her flutz and weak ass technical programs? lmfao i have to laugh. She was during her time but she isnt the greatest in all history.
@@milkybum6339 You're sick. Michelle got 5 World medals and 9 US titles. Michelle got the most 6.0 ( 57 times ) in the figure skating history. Michelle finished no lower than 3rd place between 1995 ~2004 ( continued more than Yuna kim ). Michelle got into the World Figure skating Hall of Fame. Enjoy it.
@@renzstaines1100 Michelle's artistry and technique were great, enjoy it or not and that's your problem. Michelle was the most important and popular skater in her era, and at least to be one of the greatest skaters in the history. Michelle had many classic programs, whatever you said and nobody cares. Lol
@@renzstaines1100 With your Flutz and week ass technique...you should take medicine.
She hit this program every time!
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No she did not. There were a number of times that season in which she botched this program
2nd triple loop was way cheated, underroateted . . .
Tress Braga at the Grand Prix Final that season she did that combination way better than here or at the Olympics.
Jose Hill, this was the worst one she ever did in competition.
Truth is she didn't need to win this. She just needed to make the team which she did. Once she made the team she could've done anything and she did. Michelle will forever be my favorite skater, but I will give Tara the props she is due.
Jose Hill props? she's a jumper and she was rushing and sloppy. she's not Michelle Kwan and was never going to be Michelle Kwan. because you are right, Michelle Kwan is The Greatest female figure skater Ever. besides she was like 14. based on age rules of Olympic teams, Kwan should have been 98' Gold medalist. not Tara. because she won and retired from the sport shortly after. But Michelle Kwan kept going with 9 Us championship and 5 World championships in the Kwan Era and A silver and bronze at the Olympics. Kwan is The Best. Tara is just a jumper.
Without a kid's body and weight, Tara was nothing, no matter what you do.
She never should have gotten presentation marks higher than she got here. These were actually rather generous, considering that this is the basically the same program she skated in 1997, only with different music (the only difference is a triple toe in the second combo--in 1997 she did a double axel and added a solo 3T at the end). But so much for "feeling the music."
For you youngins’, the scores back then were all about placement. Judges determined which skater should be 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. and then scored accordingly. If a specific judge scored Tara above Michelle, he/she was saying Tara deserved first place. It was a highly subjective system that led to a lot of sketchy judging. Especially back during the days of the Soviet Union.
Actually, Michelle's artistry and technique were better than Tara. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Her performance just like a kid. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed.
Michell Kwan should have gotten the gold that year.
She did at Nationals. Just not at the Olympics.
I am a big Michelle kwan admirer so it pains me to say this, but no she should not have. Tara's program was more difficult and more challenging. Tara also improved on her artistry in her skating and it shows. To add to that, Tara's technicality was superior. I understand maybe Michelle is your favorite to watch (mine too) but sometimes our favorites don't actually get first place. Tara had a riskier program and she pulled it off. I am not some fan of Tara's, I'm just being as objective as possible. I think Tara was more ambitious and she went after what she wanted until she got it.
@@heatherramsey9190 Funny. Michelle kept top for more than 20 years and her longevity was unreal. Tara had a short life on the ice, what a joy that a kid like Tara retired. Michelle's artistry and technique were better than Tara. Michelle's performance was classic, beautiful and womanly. Tara's performance just like a kid. People couldn't ask more artistry of a kid like Tara...well, she just was a kid and should go to the kid's Olympics. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. And Tara didn't really make a correct 3+3, she got hurt by the jumps, then she grew up, then she retired....Tara was overrated and Michelle was robbed. Lucky Tara.
@@heatherramsey9190 Tara was more ambitious she after what she wanted until she...retired. Good job.
@@heatherramsey9190 Tara skated safe because she never tried to be an artist on ice like Michelle Kwan.
She has landed the triple loop triple loop flawlessly many times, but this was her worst one! She was an amazing talent and was one of the few female skaters to land 2 triple triples in a program. Wished she didnt retire so soon though. she could have atleast tried to fix her flutz. Nonetheless, I miss her bubbly energy and the competitive drive both she and Michelle had which is seriously lacking with our current ladies.
I believe she ended up having a hip replacement because of the constant battering of those triple-triple loop combinations.
@@lydwinaofschiedam2685 Her technique wasn't stable, only because she had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump.
She was a girl skating to movie soundtracks and the only growth I saw was in her jump combinations. Nothing else.
Olympic Gold Medalist.
On the strength of her jumps.
Was it a different shade of gold given it was apparently just the jumps then? No? Didn't think so.
Deborah Nolan Gregory yes it was. I wouldn't even try to compare Michelle and Tara.
Or, in another more accurate way, Tara won the gold and sadly Michelle fans will have to deal with that instead of stewing on it forever. I actually like both skaters so am not being biased in my opinion that the gold was Tara's and not just for the jumps. Michelle did not skate with the same fluidity and joy that she did at Nationals, if she had, she probably would have won. But Tara skated with a freedom and lightness that complimented the athleticism and, IMO, thoroughly deserved the win.
How does that sloppy program deserve 5.9s? I don’t understand the scoring system if 6 is a perfect score and that mess of a program was deemed almost perfect.
This always confused people and is one reason that this scoring system was horrible. The marks don't mean anything outside the current competition. They essentially ranked the skaters. If you skated last and did better than everyone else, you could be awarded a 6 even if not perfect. A 5.9 at one competition didn't equal a 5.9 at another competition.
The marks were not the same as points, they were called ordinals. It was cooky and led to easier favoritism by judges.
This performance reminds me of "Disco Night" at the local rink.
Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. That's why her jumps unstable, she couldn't stop grow up and everything changed. Like the Russian girls today, Tara retired soon, a short life on the ice.
I think Tara's performace in 1998 would beat alot of the performances today if you used today's scoring system.
No she would get 6-7s in PCS these days
@@skatergirl1247 Tara was overrated. Her performance just like a kid.
the choice of music goes with her skatin as well
Totally like a kid.
@@TT-ee4qp TOTALLY MATURE FOR A KID AND SO SHE WON GOLD WTF
@@AdvantageYT So undeserved it. ....a happy puppy....
@@TT-ee4qpYUP, WELL DESERVED TARA GOLD. DON'T BE A JEALOUS SAD PUPPY FOR 24 YEARS. MOVE ON LIKE KWON DID, OK???
@@AdvantageYT Tara should go to the kid's Olympics, enjoy it.
People couldn't ask more artistry of a kid like Tara..she was a kid and never had chance to be a truly woman style like Michelle. Tara should go to the kid's Olympics and have fun with the Russian girls today...a lot of happy puppy. Tara had a short life on the ice, didn't good enough to join the 2002 Olympics because her technique was unstable and got hurt by the incorrect triple triple combo....Tara grew up..without a kid's body and weight that she couldn't jump anymore. Michelle's artistry and technique were great and hard to close for the other skaters because she kept top for more than 10 years. Michelle never gave up and had a great career. Why Tara gave up so easy ? Did Tara deserve the Olympics spirit ? Amen.
Tara quit because growing made it harder to do the same elements..same thing happens to female gymnasts who grow.
That is a flawed comparision. Her Olympic performance was much better than this. Her presentation marks were as high as they were at the Olympics too since the 2nd mark is the tiebeaker and the judges who felt she deserved to win overall had to score as such.
Her second 3-loop looked under-rotated.
Very under
Michelle won
I like her but I don't think this music does much for her
I am amazed how they are notbout of nreath
She peaked at the Olympics though... Solid 3/3 landed in Nagano...
She ended at the Olympics though... Went to 2 big competitions and left. I don't think she retired because of injury either
nice program, but that 3-3 was underrotated!
Tara was overrated. She had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more.
she looked like betsy palmer smilin at the end of her performance
Back in the day when I watched her skate I thought she was just awesome and ahead of her time but watching this 20 years later that was the most mediocre blah program ever. It's nothing but jumps arm movements more jumps.
Tara was overrated and Michelle was robbed.
Regardless of the fact, she relied on the strength of her jumping ability. Her artistry is not in the same class as Michelle Kwan's.
Her artistry is/was very different. She never tried to be something she's not.
BmcC102 Her artistry was nonexistent, even when you compare her to Butyrskaya. Yeah she skated with joy but was still immature in her presentation.
Troy, that's bs.
+BmcC102 When compared to Kwan, yes she is. Kwan embodied the music. Tara just skated and jumped to the music.
Troy Turner Their styles are completely different. Why are you so bent on saying this ON one of Tara's videos? Bitter grapes much? Get over it. There is no doubt Michelle is/was an fabulous skater and artist, but to ignore Tara's obvious natural performance ability just because it is different or less obvious is just plain ignorant.
she sure jumps and skates faster than kwan and fast skaters/jumpers usually win gold at the olympics since the time of kerrigan
You're wrong. Michelle's artistry and technique were better than Tara. Different programs, so they had different speed. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed. Michelle kept top for more than 10 years, Tara had a short life on the ice.
Without a kid's body and weight, Tara was nothing. She had a incorrect 3+3 at 1998 Olympics, her performance was like a happy puppy. Tara was overrated.
@@TT-ee4qp AND WHAT'S YOUR POINT? NUTTIN EXCEPT THAT 24 YEARS LATER AND YOU'RE STILL A SOUR GRAPE WHILE MICHAEL HAD MOVED ON. GET OVER IT WTF!!!
@@TT-ee4qp NOPE NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 3+3 BUT 24 YEARS LATER AND YOU'RE STILL A SOUR GRAPE??? WTF!!! AND OH MOTHER, STOP ACTIN LIKE A KID AND STOP COMPLAININ AND GET OVER IT AND NOTHIN MORE, OK???
@@TT-ee4qp OH REALLY?? NO WONDER SHE GOT INJURED SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO STOP SHE GOT GREEDY FOR GOLD AND DIN'T STOP AND SHE DIDN'T GET GOLD ANYWAY WTF.. AND NOPE, NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR 3+3 BUT 24 YEARS LATER AND YOU'RE STILL A SOUR GRAPE??? WTF!!! AND OH MOTHER, STOP ACTIN LIKE A KID AND STOP BEIN MISERABLE AND GET OVER IT ALREADY AND NOTHIN MORE, OK???
Triple loop triple loop wan't a slight lean, it was a half turn cheat. Oh the 90's were so funny and at times very bad when it came to bad edges and cheated jumps.
Oh shush...She's incredible. She's 15 in this, I believe! Also, this was 1998 and ice skating has come so far since then. Anyways, I think she looks like she's floating on a cloud
Thats the problem..15 is still a kid,not a mature woman..
Tara's flip and lutz would be called out for under rotation today.
Tara's triples were cheap. Tiny, rushed jumps.
Under the new system, Tara's technique wouldn't get marks.
And without a kid's body and weight, Tara couldn't make any triple triple combo.
And Kwan got 5.9s for technical?
All haters can expel their gall and bitterness. it doesn't matter that she finished 2nd for the nationals. tara belongs to the figure skating history. She took the Olympic gold medal for her daring, her joy, her triple triple combination, her two triple jumps at the end of the program, her step sequences. And Michelle kwan had nothing, never an Olympic gold medal because she thought in 1998 that she could win just with elegance and academic programs and in 2002 by having fired Franck Carol and Lorie Nichols to be trained by herself and her father ... a pretentious
I wish people would please stop with this hater shit just because opinions differ. I’m so sick of that term!!!!
Tara was overrated and Michelle was robbed at 1998. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Tara retired because she grew up and everything changed. Tara didn't really make a correct 3+3 at 1998 Olympics, she got hurt by the jumps, her performance was like a kid......She should go to the kid's Olympics .
Michelle got 5 World medals and 9 US titles , she got the most 6.0 in the history, she got into the World Figure skating Hall of Fame. Tara ? Lol...Without a kid's body and weight, Tara was nothing.
@@debsam77 The ISU raised the age limit to 17 NOW, which means Tara Lipinski didn't deserve the Olympics gold and she should go to the kid's Olympics.
@@debsam77 Michelle kwan had triple triple combo since 1995 ~ 2005 ( not every time ) , which means her technique was stable and better than the other skaters like Tara had triple triple combo just for 2~ 3 years. 😆 Unfortunately, Michelle got hurt ( her toes ) before the Olympics, so lucky Tara.......(≧ω≦)/
@christyyz Absolutely. She was something there wasn't she
so sloppy, the marks are way too high, esp. the technical merit, her technique is terrible
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