Tom Scott's Descent Into Madness

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  • Source: "The Problem with Time & Timezones" - Computerphile
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  • @noobnamedyoup8423
    @noobnamedyoup8423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19146

    "I just asked if you had the time, mate. Calm down"

    • @gautamsharma3361
      @gautamsharma3361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Lol

    • @vivithegoblindruid
      @vivithegoblindruid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +511

      But does he have the time? can you really have something as unsubstantial and untouchable as time? you think you are in the present but are you? because you shall read this in the future than you are a being of future and am I a being of past? who are we to qualify ourselves based on the timeframe where our thoughts came from? not even the greatest confluence of minds should be able to solve this most effervescent but erudite topic for we are simple beings.. .okay I got bored with this shite.

    • @ramo3143
      @ramo3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@vivithegoblindruid yea

    • @atlasmonkeyleon
      @atlasmonkeyleon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Do you have the time to listen to me whine about nothing and everything all at once?

    • @vivithegoblindruid
      @vivithegoblindruid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@atlasmonkeyleon I am one of those, melodramatic fools, neurotic to the bone no doubt about it

  • @alteredarrow9023
    @alteredarrow9023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47633

    Tom Scott, the man who's been in his late 20's or early 30's for the last 10 years

    • @Squirrelanditsnutz
      @Squirrelanditsnutz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4574

      He was born in his late twenties and is slowly aging to early thirties.

    • @PwnZombie
      @PwnZombie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +974

      @@Squirrelanditsnutz how is your enamel still there

    • @Squirrelanditsnutz
      @Squirrelanditsnutz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1152

      @@PwnZombie very soft smooth brushes and a loving touch when brushing.

    • @heck_n_degenerate940
      @heck_n_degenerate940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1094

      Tom, Hank/John Green, Michael from Vsauce, etc;
      I’m just convinced these people are all part of some immortal council from the dawn of time who have guided humanity through dark ages.

    • @HectaSpyrit
      @HectaSpyrit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

      @@heck_n_degenerate940 They all have horcruxes somewhere, they'll never die

  • @samdherring
    @samdherring 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13543

    *"Chaos is a ladder"*
    And Tom is climbing

    • @Lost_kin435
      @Lost_kin435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +263

      Tom is chaos
      Climbing is a ladder

    • @engineergaming7407
      @engineergaming7407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@Lost_kin435 Chaos ladder tom
      Is a is and climbing

    • @ambassador-of-misogyny
      @ambassador-of-misogyny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      Chaos = "Ladder"
      class Ladder:
      def user(self):
      print("Chaos is a Ladder")
      if Chaos != "Ladder":
      pass
      else:
      Person = input("Whotf is climbing it?:")
      if Person.lower() != "tom":
      print(":(")
      quit()
      print(f"Chaos is a Ladder and {Person} is climbing it")
      Item = Ladder()
      Item.user()

    • @okb6436
      @okb6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Ladder climbing tom
      Chas is him

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He's teleportating up that ladder

  • @kekehat9864
    @kekehat9864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6916

    That timezone is the reason he looks like he's both 25 years old and 55 at the same time.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      You need new glasses. He certainly doesn’t look in his 20’s. He looks like a 40+ year old man

    • @blueazula911
      @blueazula911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      @@xr6lad r/whoosh

    • @okjustdont6713
      @okjustdont6713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      @@xr6lad lol he was late 20s when he made this vdeo.

    • @Wm7forthewin
      @Wm7forthewin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@blueazula911 r/ihavereddit

    • @NedInYaHead
      @NedInYaHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      He's 25 and 13 months

  • @surrealsquad1400
    @surrealsquad1400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6602

    he looks so distressed

    • @glumbortango7182
      @glumbortango7182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      This was a first hand experience at some point

    • @lnplum
      @lnplum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      As a programmer I can only say it's entirely justified.

    • @GGorsty
      @GGorsty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      It very probably is a very distressing topic.
      And that is from a non-programmer, who is just very glad to estimate this stuff and does not deal with it by himself.

    • @jayylad38
      @jayylad38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      especially at 1:03

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Tom Scott has seen something so horrible he dares not describe it.

  • @junsky660
    @junsky660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12002

    Tom calm down, someone just set the clock wrong.

    • @SuperSmashDolls
      @SuperSmashDolls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +310

      "uh, Tom, a bunch of people posted selfies on New Year's Eve and they all got their accounts banned for spamming because the antispam algorithm saw a negative time offset and went nuts"

    • @jenthefwen
      @jenthefwen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lmfao

    • @reihanboo
      @reihanboo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      No. It's either you set the clock right or you *die*

    • @gnsf
      @gnsf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A wrong clock on a system might cause big troubles

    • @asimpleanimearaaratm3914
      @asimpleanimearaaratm3914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@reihanboo can’t help but notice that we have the same pfp...

  • @HotGarbageMyDude
    @HotGarbageMyDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13661

    "Universal Coordinated Time"
    **music swells**
    "ASTRONOMICAL Time"
    **music goes fucking apeshit**

    • @csanadhorvath
      @csanadhorvath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      whats the background music?

    • @graythewolf6096
      @graythewolf6096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +259

      *Oh god astronomical time, were all fucked and we let it happen!*

    • @MF_JACK
      @MF_JACK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      @@csanadhorvath Zack Hemsey - Mind Heist

    • @Huyrrou
      @Huyrrou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@MF_JACK this sonehow is very fitting.

    • @MF_JACK
      @MF_JACK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Huyrrou It really is.

  • @Newt.--.Jaeden
    @Newt.--.Jaeden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10825

    *This is what happened to VSauce...*

    • @nickmonks9563
      @nickmonks9563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +442

      Oh my...you don't see...Vsauce is an interdimensional time traveler. You must see. Tom...IS...Vsauce...
      DA DA DA DA - DA DA DA DA - DMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    • @marciomicio
      @marciomicio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      UNDERRATED COMMENT

    • @tolkienpotat2574
      @tolkienpotat2574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

      @@nickmonks9563 Or is he?

    • @chan232
      @chan232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      *Vsuace Intensifies*

    • @reuben8140
      @reuben8140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had no idea that lootcrate guy had a youtube channel, neat

  • @Prawny
    @Prawny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27167

    As a programmer that has had to work with timezones in the past; this is a perfectly reasonable reaction. It really is a nightmare.

    • @Yootzkore
      @Yootzkore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1250

      As a dev who took up the task of maintaining their team's bonkers in-house implementation of date and time, I know that pain. An interface specification for a third-party system once contained, no joke: "Unix timestamp in local time". My colleagues never understood why this got me laughing hysterically like the Joker.

    • @Yoshi-vq3og
      @Yoshi-vq3og 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Thats a thing another crazy person would say...

    • @otesunki
      @otesunki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

      @@Yootzkore "universal unix timestamp but not universal"
      whyyyYyYy

    • @Yootzkore
      @Yootzkore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      ​@@otesunki the number of seconds elapsed since midnight UTC on January 1st, 1970 famously depends on the timezone, right? Right?

    • @Yootzkore
      @Yootzkore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@otesunki so when the spec authors said "local Unix timestamp", they actually meant "the Unix timestamp that, when *misinterpreted as a local time*, gives you the desired time in the local timezone". It still cracks me up, years after.

  • @supermanifolds
    @supermanifolds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3397

    Sir, this is a Wendy's drive through

    • @giaem4108
      @giaem4108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      can i get number 1 please

    • @GThiele64
      @GThiele64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      when we lose our principles, we invite chaos

    • @YellowLAVA
      @YellowLAVA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@giaem4108 I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6, with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, 1 with cheese, and a large soda

    • @johncitizen5130
      @johncitizen5130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@giaem4108 Was that a normal 1 or a leap 1?

    • @giaem4108
      @giaem4108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johncitizen5130 normal one please

  • @macchi4625
    @macchi4625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9483

    This man just went through the 5 stages of grief in 2 minutes and 6 seconds

    • @AK-vz3zo
      @AK-vz3zo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      OOO MY FUCKING GOD YOU HAVE JUST TOLD EVERYONE THAT THIS DAMN VIDEO IS 1 SECOND SHORTER THAN WHAT IT REALLY IS YOU ABSOLUTE MORON YOU HAVE RUINED TIME ITSELF WITH THIS FOOLISH MISTAKE

    • @user-vv9jg8fo7e
      @user-vv9jg8fo7e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      @@AK-vz3zo "sir, this is Wendy's"

    • @trondordoesstuff
      @trondordoesstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@AK-vz3zo nahh, see the video forgot to count the second at 1:60.

    • @omnitroph1501
      @omnitroph1501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AK-vz3zo The metairony begins

    • @alejandropulidorodriguez9723
      @alejandropulidorodriguez9723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@user-vv9jg8fo7e sir, you are unfunny

  • @felixkjornsberg
    @felixkjornsberg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1838

    Vsauce touching his head: wanna know how I got these scars?
    Tom: I'm figuring it out

  • @bloodyidit4506
    @bloodyidit4506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1570

    the "Clock is off by one second we're all gonna die" energy here is off the charts.

    • @druncle1977
      @druncle1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      That one second would be accumulative. Considering we have nuclear power plants whose internal mechanics are depended on doing stuff at the correct time, getting it wrong could literally mean the destruction of civilization as we know it.

    • @rbxless
      @rbxless 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@druncle1977 Wow that's so comforting!

    • @vedaryan334
      @vedaryan334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Fun fact : a few terrorists in 1999 died because of timezones in Palestine. Basically the bombs were set with zionic time or something while the time and schedule they were following was something else and therefore the bombs exploded one hour before they were meant to and they all died on the way in the car

    • @kinfeng1662
      @kinfeng1662 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@vedaryan334 wow

    • @ChrisTheWeak
      @ChrisTheWeak ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know I'm a year late, but this has some very important implications in computers and finance where exact times are very important. There exists some atomic clocks meant to help keep this accurate, but for most everyone else they shouldn't have to interact with this problem.

  • @rafaelpernil
    @rafaelpernil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4492

    I can confirm, handling dates/time with code is EXTREMELY PAINFUL

    • @blastanoizz2
      @blastanoizz2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      You're a big guy.

    • @penguinjesus8394
      @penguinjesus8394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blastanoizz2 truuuu

    • @Terrabade
      @Terrabade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@blastanoizz2 for you!

    • @redbeard3946
      @redbeard3946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blastanoizz2 for you

    • @joshdoesthings7836
      @joshdoesthings7836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What happens if I take that mask off? @Redbeard @Terrabade

  • @NilakshMalpotra
    @NilakshMalpotra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6717

    I love how you didn't even have to edit him

    • @TheHunter_withoutthe_
      @TheHunter_withoutthe_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +317

      Literally just added some music 😂.
      But it works.

    • @125discipline2
      @125discipline2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      pure organic meme

    • @zakariaahmadfauzan926
      @zakariaahmadfauzan926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Pure madness

    • @valdo6231
      @valdo6231 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I was expecting your classic Out of Context compilations, showing him doing/talking things without any explications. But this is great.

    • @originalni_popisovac
      @originalni_popisovac ปีที่แล้ว

      weirdo

  • @shadowmarez7457
    @shadowmarez7457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +742

    That explains how he became eternally youthful, He Hacked Time itself. He lives in his own Timezone.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roundel. I think you need new glasses. He looks 40+ to me.

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@xr6lad You seem to be in the minority here. Maybe get new glasses?

    • @shirosaki97
      @shirosaki97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He lives in the leap second.

    • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
      @VivekYadav-ds8oz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@shirosaki97 His 30th birthday's first second keeps repeating.

    • @germanvisitor2
      @germanvisitor2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I assumed, somewhere under the ashes of Pompeii is a mosaic that ages instead of him.

  • @owenfamily9032
    @owenfamily9032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    he speaks about the people who made the spaghetti code as if they were the heroes of old that defeated a legendary beast seen only once every hundred years.

    • @sophier996
      @sophier996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Is he wrong tho

    • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
      @VivekYadav-ds8oz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      That's a very appropriate description of them, couldn't have worded it better myself.

    • @vedaryan334
      @vedaryan334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That's what exactly they are except maybe seventy eighty years

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Once every 100 years is when the leap year is skipped.
      Except for every 400 years when it happens anyway.
      And it's still a day off every 5300 or so years.

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It is said that a society prospers when old men plant trees they will never sit in the shade of.
      The modern correlary is people who write insanely complicated technical code and make it open source and those who do things like spend their time maintaining and expanding Wikipedia against the tides of internet entropy.
      Without the selfless service of these lunatics our modern way of life would not be possible.

  • @lost4468yt
    @lost4468yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2728

    I'm so glad Tom Scott doesn't exist in a time where we're moving around at high enough speeds that time dilation starts to have an impact. I'm pretty sure he'd lose his mind. Because these software libraries can't help you then, because you're literally the one who is creating new differences in time.

    • @jeffwillsea6757
      @jeffwillsea6757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      But we may be there soon.....rockets.....many many rockets. Just wait for solar standard time.

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@dionyzus2909 Yes your clock in the ship always looks like it's pasisng at the same rate to you, but it doesn't to people on earth or in other places. That's where the issue is. How do you easily calculate times when one person has had a literally different amount of time elapse compare to you? How do you keep track of all of this? Etc.
      It's the same exact issue Tom Scott is on about in the original video. When you convert between different locations the times are a mess and change all over the place, calculating the time between two different times is a mess, everything is. But at least you can just create a database of rules for time zones. You can't do that when every fast moving ship has its own time elapse differently to you.
      And similarly to the video, the time since the unix epoch doesn't work properly either with this. Normally at least that mostly agreees across the board, but when you start going really fast compared to other clocks, your clocks can get out of sync. One person can think X seconds has passed since the unix epoch while someone else can think it has been X - 1000 seconds since the epoch.
      It's going to be a mess. Tom Scott is going to lose his mind if he's still alive.

    • @MrKhaz101
      @MrKhaz101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      this is already a thing that must be accounted for in satellites

    • @ngwoo
      @ngwoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      This is already a consideration for satellites. We DO live in a time where we're moving around at high enough speeds (or rather moving around different things with different proximities to Earth's gravity well) that time dilation starts to have an impact.

    • @kalumbabwale3729
      @kalumbabwale3729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ....or do we?

  • @citizeninsane8518
    @citizeninsane8518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    And _then,_
    you get the call
    from the astrophysicist

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@despacitosalad_144 Im more afraid of the Historian's shifting calendars

    • @dronespace
      @dronespace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@despacitosalad_144 lol

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SnoFitzroy Especially since countries didn't change calender all at once. And often not even the entirety of a country at once.
      And relativity. Gravity and speed dilate time enough that GPS satellites run 38 microseconds fast. That means positions would drift about 6 km per day and the time signal would be off by a second after about 72 years

  • @TinyMeatPete
    @TinyMeatPete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +528

    honestly love this dude, his passion into knowledge in general just makes anything he's on an absolute gem

    • @teppo9585
      @teppo9585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about people who delve past the official truth? He´s not on that level you know?

    • @TinyMeatPete
      @TinyMeatPete 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@teppo9585 I haven't slept enough lately, so my brain can't comprehend this sentence. What in gods name are you talking about?

    • @Omar_Al_Seddik
      @Omar_Al_Seddik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@TinyMeatPete He's probably a flat earther creationist. Just ignore him lol.

    • @marvindebot3264
      @marvindebot3264 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TinyMeatPete His tin foil hat is a bit tight.

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Omar_Al_Seddik If flat earthers and creationists took their beliefs seriously, they would sound like any sane person. They are trying to remove reality and brute force creationism and the flat earth into it. But what they should be doing is implementing their beliefs into current scientific knowledge. They are just too stupid to figure out how to do something easy like that.
      it doesn't help than at least 70% of the "flat earthers" are just pretending, in order to wind up people who get mad at others for believing in something unscientific. Always fun to troll people like that. They've not a shred of a sense of humor...

  • @a_diplodon
    @a_diplodon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Its scary seeing the calmest man on TH-cam going insane

  • @raflidiot
    @raflidiot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    "do you have the right time tom"
    *Dramatic piano music playing*
    "no."

    • @notcharlie6685
      @notcharlie6685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *I understood that reference*

    • @raflidiot
      @raflidiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@notcharlie6685 woooooo!!! Finally!!!

    • @raflidiot
      @raflidiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone speak my language

  • @Gilgamoth
    @Gilgamoth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1202

    Unix Time: 23:59:59
    Universal Co-Ordinated Time : Imma about to end this man whole career (adds leap time)
    Astronomical Time : Imma stop you right there! (adds random number of seconds/miliseconds according to astronomical alignment)

    • @YamamotoTV2021
      @YamamotoTV2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Yamamoto Universal Time: Trust me, I’m better.
      *ADDS LEAP MINUTE*

    • @JorgetePanete
      @JorgetePanete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm about*

    • @mchagnon7
      @mchagnon7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Astronomical time is the only system that makes sense. The solar system IS the clock, we're just resetting ours to match it.

    • @transcendentalanarchy
      @transcendentalanarchy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JorgetePanete *imma 'bout

    • @cornishalps9870
      @cornishalps9870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      23:59:60 just wondering if it makes a time stamp

  • @saloni.sharma
    @saloni.sharma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Seriously though, thank god for open source codes and standard libraries. Programming in time can be absolute madness.

  • @ZonieMusic
    @ZonieMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    For anyone wanting the song, it's Zack Hemsey's Mind Heist.
    I hear it everywhere but never credited lmao.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Becasue it was used in Inception trailer, so for many it's not "Zack Hemsey's song", but simply "Inception trailer music" sometimes even ommiting the "trailer" part and saying it's probably by Hans Zimmer...

    • @TechnologicallyTechnical
      @TechnologicallyTechnical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@cola98765 ngl I didn't even realize that music wasn't in the actual movie until you pointed this out.

    • @TrulyAndasen
      @TrulyAndasen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank god, i've been searching for it

    • @v-vanilla5259
      @v-vanilla5259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We need more people like you

    • @indonesianguy4026
      @indonesianguy4026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My message for all people to people like you : 1:45

  • @mr.hedgehog
    @mr.hedgehog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Waiting for the police call box to suddenly appear behind him.

    • @doctor_wah
      @doctor_wah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The tardis?

    • @theavo
      @theavo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I believe he lives in TARDIS already, along with Vsauce

    • @larsswig912
      @larsswig912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Tom Scott should play The Doctor. so fitting.

    • @adamlmao6893
      @adamlmao6893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@larsswig912 I'd go crazy if tom plays the 14th doctor

    • @khaitranngoc4176
      @khaitranngoc4176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he gets even more insane, he will meet a different doctor.

  • @anatine_banana_69
    @anatine_banana_69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    Bgm makes all the difference

    • @iamwhatitorture6072
      @iamwhatitorture6072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      the music is Zack Hemsey - "Mind Heist" if you were wondering

  • @Krossfyre
    @Krossfyre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    As a programmer, I completely understand his frustration with time and timezones. Knowing how we have to handle it makes me want to shoot myself just thinking about it. Hopefully I'll never actually have to write code for it.

  • @anniesama5729
    @anniesama5729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Glad to be a programmer at a time when date libraries come standard.

    • @sheepy0125
      @sheepy0125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      haha `import datetime` go brr

  • @scratchsdivinecomedy
    @scratchsdivinecomedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Why is Tom Scott in the asylum?"
    *His clock thinks a minute has 61 seconds*

  • @YWolf777
    @YWolf777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Funnily enough a couple of days ago I spent HOURS trying to solve an error where a client wanted a website to show a specific schedule at a specific timezone, since backend is at UTC, a conversion needed to be done from frontend (which showed UTC+2 hours), and it was a NIGHTMARE. So yeah, let's thank all the people that dealt with timezones so we don't have to.

  • @sashimiroll5055
    @sashimiroll5055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    This implies that he wasn’t already “mad” (as you put it) before this video. Cause I’m pretty sure he reached that point before TH-cam, probably around the time the British government got mad at him.

    • @stephenleskowat4482
      @stephenleskowat4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That sounds like an interesting story!

    • @autumin6843
      @autumin6843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How exactly did he manage that one

    • @xradar8349
      @xradar8349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      please elaborate

    • @gdlizy
      @gdlizy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      If my memory didn't fail me, Tom makes a fake prank site that mimicks a gov site. It got popular, and the gov is mad.

    • @kiefac
      @kiefac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      He was mad wayyy before TH-cam. See "The Ballad of Mad Cap'n Tom"

  • @knubbe1320
    @knubbe1320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    this is me when I'm stoned and realize there's 60 seconds in a minute even tho the seconds end at 59 and goes back to zero

    • @dnebdal
      @dnebdal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Also: Each second is a span of time. We don't really label the points when the second changes, we label the stretch of time between two of those points. So the :00 second is what's _between_ the start of a minute and the start of the next second in it.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's basically how computers count, from 0.

    • @autumin6843
      @autumin6843 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ME

    • @Diamondo25
      @Diamondo25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But sometimes, _just sometimes_, its 61 seconds.

    • @dnebdal
      @dnebdal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@monad_tcp Yeah - I have had to stop and think it through when describing unix time stamps. 0 was the second that started at midnight going into 1970, and ended when it ticked over to 00:00:01.
      What is still mildly confusing to me is what you do when you have different precision. Say you have a timestamp of 1 and another of 2.001 - what duration elapsed between them? The natural approach is to just subtract them and get a 1.001 sec span, but that means you're treating 1 as the point one second after midnight, instead of a numbered block of time that started at that point.

  • @Vitoreo
    @Vitoreo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Every Tom scott Video needs to have this music.

  • @d_eexe
    @d_eexe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He's really just rambling, huh? The music makes this 👌 *chefs kiss*

  • @orkkojit
    @orkkojit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    When Tom Scott found out the Y2K bug is also a virus affecting him

  • @davidcoghill8612
    @davidcoghill8612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "I am falling into a crevasse of insanity"

  • @michaelt4007
    @michaelt4007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    That’s why I love people who entertain with logical facts and things such as how Tom Scott does, eventually they just lose it and start to blow thing up.

  • @facu286
    @facu286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Obsessed with how the music fits Tom's emotional process

  • @roulzhq
    @roulzhq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    If you ever programm something like a timing/date library you know what true insanity feels like.

  • @PureDefenders
    @PureDefenders 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Can confirm, had to work with time zones a few times now and it's more than a nightmare. This reaction is appropriate and dare I say on the more calm side

  • @dovakhiinmaster2967
    @dovakhiinmaster2967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is me trying to explain that one awesome turn I had in a collectable card game.

  • @MFG1243
    @MFG1243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I prefer the term "Tom Scott's descent into Sparta".

    • @multimapping8303
      @multimapping8303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      THIS

    • @bbernie
      @bbernie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      OMG
      You just made me travel back in time.
      Beautiful.

    • @declantecho1717
      @declantecho1717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@multimapping8303
      *IS*

    • @PapaNierForReplicant
      @PapaNierForReplicant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@declantecho1717 *SPARTA!!!*

    • @HarryKaneIsGoated
      @HarryKaneIsGoated 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PapaNierForReplicant Proceeds to kick the persian Scout into hell

  • @HildegardKrieger
    @HildegardKrieger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    you ever watch a batman villain be formed in real time?

  • @some1purple
    @some1purple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Of course google had to go fuck it up and be like "oh instead of leap seconds we're just making seconds slightly longer now"

    • @dnebdal
      @dnebdal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The one thing I can say for that is that it means you can *mostly* get away with completely ignoring it.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@dnebdal no you can't, as soon as that system interacts with another that doesn't do it, hell ensues

    • @dnebdal
      @dnebdal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@monad_tcp Depends on how picky the systems are about time and how physically close they are, I guess? With how Google stretches that one second over days, the offset will be smaller than the network latency to anywhere outside the same city.

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Leap S M E A R

  • @mattuiop
    @mattuiop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tom Scott in 5 years: "I am here in the backrooms level 187"

  • @MagyarGaben
    @MagyarGaben 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Hey Tom, could you tell me what time is it?"
    Tom 48 minutes later:

  • @Sarah-sm6iz
    @Sarah-sm6iz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    is it weird that I love Tom Scott even more now as he is finally a complete maniac?

  • @heddevh
    @heddevh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That video is still giving me nightmares and has made me perpetually afraid of having to programming with timezones

  • @klogechris
    @klogechris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The clock of madness, a H.P. Lovecraft story

  • @kennethraymondmoore
    @kennethraymondmoore ปีที่แล้ว +6

    People don't realise it yet, but Tom Scott is a Doctor Who villain.

  • @theknightikins9397
    @theknightikins9397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    If life is a game then Tom is one of the code miners and has slowly been finding all the secrets, one way or another.

  • @Gaizhun
    @Gaizhun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This man is the eternal university student.

  • @B_-.-
    @B_-.- ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I work in software QA and we've had this one app go back and forth about 4 times now because every time I hand it back and the devs fix what I find, a new bug relating to dates and times appears. Currently watching a colleague enter this state of despair - it's just what time does to developers.

  • @WarpRulez
    @WarpRulez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    He has seen what no man should ever have to gaze upon. The revelation has driven him to the edge of insanity.

  • @phila2361
    @phila2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Time is just nature's way to stop everything happening at once

    • @addiosnia
      @addiosnia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Woah

    • @Defirence
      @Defirence ปีที่แล้ว

      and there's a way to manipulate it. It's possible for the human mind to enter an extremely deep state where time slows down and compounds within itself to get you to a point where you'd possibly perceive ~300 000 years of perceived time within a single second. This is believed to be "suspended animation".

  • @drank.99
    @drank.99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is his villain origin story

  • @jonas1015119
    @jonas1015119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    didnt even know he ever talked about this, but I went down the exact same wikipedia rabbit hole years ago at 3am. Time, together with networking and analogue audio is one of those things that will ruin you if you look at it for too long

  • @tind33p
    @tind33p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I will allways remember this Tomscott video as one of his most intense and frustrated explanations. it's epic.

  • @Mr_Jombles
    @Mr_Jombles ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I started learning about programming I kept hearing "time is a nightmare", and I was like "yeah daylight saving time changes and converting timezones sure is a hassle". What a sweet summer child I was. Long ago.

  • @AnyFactor
    @AnyFactor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Perfectly reasonable reaction when dealing with computers and time. Time calculation is an awfully difficult thing to solve in programming.

  • @d3xbot
    @d3xbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And this is why I'm always thankful to open-source programmers!

  • @bongsgi95
    @bongsgi95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely phenomenal soundwork!

  • @graysonofthewood3747
    @graysonofthewood3747 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a programmer, I swear to god it’s not just Tom who is driven beyond insanity by date data structures.

  • @wata-mementssrb6868
    @wata-mementssrb6868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The bgm is from inside Tom’s brain. There’s an orchestra happening inside there.

  • @randomuploadsism
    @randomuploadsism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When I drink too much coffee and stay up all night watching Conspiracy theory vids:

  • @Robert-iu2ou
    @Robert-iu2ou 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The music lining up so so well really sells this 😂👏

  • @VOLAIRE
    @VOLAIRE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The background music made me think I was watching a movie with the greatest plot ever

  • @tylerburney8576
    @tylerburney8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It all started with xnopyt 😔

    • @xplinux22
      @xplinux22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      aaaaaagggghhhhh

  • @zionj104
    @zionj104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how the music just happens to line up

  • @andidekoster5725
    @andidekoster5725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this

  • @evandias8751
    @evandias8751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The time the doctor possessed Tom Scott for a video.

  • @biinerfiiner
    @biinerfiiner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This reminds me of trying to explain the concept of Garry's Mod to my parents

  • @_GhostMiner
    @_GhostMiner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The fact you only had to add the music to make tom sound like a madman makes it perfect.

  • @JovanDudic
    @JovanDudic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steven, THANK YOU for this

  • @musyrifo
    @musyrifo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Tom, I just asked what's the time."

    • @Ved_Overclocked
      @Ved_Overclocked 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but he is saying is that a computer could never ever get time ABSOLUTELY EXACT

  • @rickvanleeuwen9589
    @rickvanleeuwen9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Why is this the fourth result when I'm looking up Baka Mitai? It should be the first!

  • @bitbybot2
    @bitbybot2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    *"The human brain is the most complex structure in the whole universe"*
    -Human brain

  • @MMT--Games
    @MMT--Games 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont know why but i love this video so much

  • @sagescorner256
    @sagescorner256 ปีที่แล้ว

    the inception soundtrack in the background just adds to the confusion and rampant anxiety

  • @Ajc-ni3xn
    @Ajc-ni3xn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cthulhu ain’t got shit on leap seconds when it comes to driving people mad

  • @PouLS
    @PouLS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Second. And if you do, the clocks go 23:59:58"

  • @drag0nblight
    @drag0nblight ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound effects is pretty spot on.

  • @Ebola-Jones
    @Ebola-Jones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The music is an actual perfect addition

  • @christopherbuckenhamphotog368
    @christopherbuckenhamphotog368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the iception trailer music works so well here

    • @jpe1
      @jpe1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zack Hemsey’s “Mind Heist” gets ripped off all over the place, but yes, you are correct, it was used in Inception.

    • @christopherbuckenhamphotog368
      @christopherbuckenhamphotog368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpe1 respect for knowing the name and who it's by I put inception trailer music so people understand

  • @casualonion
    @casualonion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I don't feel comfortable anymore.

    • @casualonion
      @casualonion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You shouldn't be

    • @casualonion
      @casualonion ปีที่แล้ว

      No, really you shouldn't

  • @DerHerrMitR
    @DerHerrMitR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Tom Scott looked into the abyss, the abyss blinked.

  • @Dpoppeliers
    @Dpoppeliers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The music makes this 100% more dramatic and I love it.

  • @HalwenGreenleaf
    @HalwenGreenleaf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    as a senior in college who is majoring in computer science, i feel like this descent into madness sums up the major (probably the field too) very well

  • @swastikbiswas8293
    @swastikbiswas8293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    When you have last 3 brain cells left but you are an 170 iq guy

  • @thewoodpeckers655
    @thewoodpeckers655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s the only time I’ve ever heard the boom sound effect used effectively in a dramatic way.

  • @dhpz
    @dhpz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that the different between normal and madness is the music

  • @nodymus6519
    @nodymus6519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He's describing how 2021 is just 2020 part 2

    • @Ved_Overclocked
      @Ved_Overclocked 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Mayans: the world will end in 2012
      (World doesn’t end in 2012)
      Me: what if the Mayans switched up the last 2 digits and the world ends in 2021!!!!!

  • @smithwillnot
    @smithwillnot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a newbie programmer I haven't had need to deal with time all that much, however the first time I did I ran into a bug caused by the fact that my server was not necessarily in the same time zone as the client. (I was dealing with "daily resets")

    • @EnteiFire4
      @EnteiFire4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For a "normal" developers, I'd say this is 90% of the problem you'll have with timezones: weird behaviors because the timezones you're expecting is not the timezones you have (eg. You stored the time in your local timezone in a database that expects the time to be UTC). The other 10% will be features based on time (do x at 2 PM everyday), where you'll have to ask "what about people in different timezones?" to understand the desired behavior.
      The annoyances Tom is talking about will mainly apply to the (masochistic) people who basically code the libraries you will use to deal with timezones, so you don't have to suffer as much as they did.

  • @annahill987
    @annahill987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The music absolutely makes this.

  • @fujifilm5127
    @fujifilm5127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm here in an asylum.
    Now, i don't want to be here, but i'm here none the less.

  • @johnmorton4750
    @johnmorton4750 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got a job out of high school writing software for tv guide systems. Time zones definitely drove me insane. On top of that I was programming reactive apps with javascript when convenient frameworks like svelte, react and vue weren't a thing...that was also a nightmare. I feel like a dinosaur and I'm only 27.

    • @yeahyeah-ds3kv
      @yeahyeah-ds3kv ปีที่แล้ว

      You are so good at your job. I am just a noob in hk who just finished high school and is going to study computer science in the uk.

  • @user-rm6wv7uz2e
    @user-rm6wv7uz2e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    nice post, steven!

  • @lordsiomai
    @lordsiomai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let us take a moment to appreciate how well the music was incorporated into this

  • @maxmccann5323
    @maxmccann5323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:49 “...back and back, there’s no stopping it”