This comment section is wild, I've seen people call Bowie a hardcore Christian, a complete atheist, an agnostic, a Buddhist, a magick practicing warlock, a cultist, and a hermetic something or other. Maybe, just maybe, none of you know what religion Bowie was, and you're all just guessing.
"...I'm not quite an atheist and it worries me. There's that little bit that holds on: "Well, I'm almost an atheist. Give me a couple of months."" Blackstar is very obvious that he finally reached that point.
The freaky thing after Blackstar is No Plan. It's like Bowie (as immortalized by his legacy, not the person) speaks from a certain form of afterlife, no longer existing as a person but existing as something else. In addition, the vinyl sleeve for No Plan EP is an octogram with the lowest point longer than the rest, suggesting some sort of "rise". If Blackstar is about his death, No Plan is him resurrecting as a different entity altogether.
I honestly believe that there is more to Cohen's Epitaph. Judging by his journey - as an artist as well as a human, he shows not just angst. Cohen confronted a variety of philosophies and captured these beautifully - as early as his quasi-existential 'Suzanne' to somewhat Buddhist influenced late albums, 'You want it Darker' forms a really compelling finale for his whole career. It is a fine finale for a man who has lived through a lot - and accepts troubles of fate, the life itself with all the heavy baggage. Just as it says - he is READY to accept miserable human life in all it's forms, moreover - on his own terms.
kompstrumpcziwadze Well said. I feel this video-analysis really missed the mark and that the writer is not understanding the song album or artist from a Jewish perspective the way he understands Bowie from a Christian one. I don’t expect him to start studying Talmud but all the same, he could have done a lot more. Jonathan Sacks for example did a moving short video on the Cohen song which was a great introduction to the themes; perhaps Polyphonic will (re-)do a video on Cohen in future.
@@acchaladka I also felt the Cohen part was lacking. Cohen has always held a place in my musical heart. I first heard him in a movie about teen angst. 'Everybody Knows'. I was a teen and it spoke to me but for some time it was the only song of his I listened to. Couple of years later at around 18-19 I rediscover what I consider classic Cohen. Suzanne, Sisters of Mercy, Chelsea Hotel, Who by the fire, etc. At the time I was into underground electronic music. It was 1997 but Cohen was the soundtrack of my first relationship. I was listening and re listening to his songs and amazed at how everytime the beauty of his writing touched me. After that, years were hard for me. I didn't listen to much music. Jump to 2012 on a cold early spring morning. I had spent the night at a rave and I was walking on Ste-Catherine in Montreal when I notice a sharply dressed man crossing the street. Loafers, jacket, scarf and fedora. I recognize him but I also recognize that he is not Cohen at that moment. He is Leonard, so all I say is 'Good morning mister Cohen' and he nods. Couple years later I was running an Airbnb corner St-Dominique and Marianne in Montreal. From my balcony I could see his front door but I ignored he lived there until I hear the news of his passing. With many others we held vigil in the park in front of his place. Flowers and candles by the hundreds but also oranges and incense. A testament to his spiritual quest and curiosity. As I was taking a panoramic picture Bird on a wire was playing and a radio someone had left amongst the offerings. As I left So Long Marianne was playing and I look up to see that Marianne street has been unofficially renamed.
Because Lazarus wasn’t written for Blackstar. It was written for the Lazarus musical as a song for Thomas Jerome Newton. It wasn’t sung from Bowie’s own perspective.
Cohen will always be one of the greatest, accepting darkness as part of life. Him and Johnny Cash, man. Then balanced by rock n roll artists like Elvis and Bowie just make the best of both worlds.
as a musician, this video was truly in all senses beautiful in how you dug deeper into the songs of these amazing artists and beyond scratched the surface of bigger questions of a bigger picture. needless to say I'm hooked on this channel now
Cool video. I'm impressed with it. I also just lost my husband 2 weeks ago. He chose to die at home. It was terrible to watch him suffer but caring for him was a back breaking labor of love I was honored to do for the man who took care of me for 29 years. Fly high Leonard and David and Jeff 🙏🧚♀️⚘💕
Great work! On Black Star, I think Bowie is hyper aware of the idea that great artists are supposed to be outliers that serve an important place in society as a whole. Great artists help us explore and evolve as individuals and a society, and Bowie understands that he is one link in that chain. Because he falls, it makes room for an artist of equal influence, a star of equal magnitude to rise in his place.
Listen to Cohen's posthumous CD "Thanks For The Dance" recorded soon after "You Want It Darker" gained some momentum. He realized that he still had more to say...and he said it. His son Adam produced it. Watch the video "Leonard Cohen "The Story of Thanks for The Dance" to get a full appreciation for this new album.
Bowie and Cohen are gems of the Earth. Both gave us Irony , satire , sarcasm and suspiciously pleasurable ,emotions to deal with. But apart from that , really interesting and talented nice people whom I adore for their artistic contributions to those who continue
I cried like crazy when he died. I remember I ordered that album, then saw the Lazarus video, which made me really anxious and the next day I learned that he passed away... That was in the middle of my personal bad experience and it was very devastating. 2 days after that I went to put a candle and a bunch of flowers by the place in downtown Manhattan, where he used to live. I was rather shocked by the fact how small that place was, squeezed between 2 stores, while, in London, there was a huge space where people placed flowers, candles, artworks etc.. There were murals commemorating David and so on. Yet, in NY, where he had lived for so many years, there was just a 5 to 10 meters space where people could place their things....
There is something that haunts me in the song Lazarus. One of my favorite short stories, by Rubén Darío, is called Bluebird (el pájaro azul), which deals with the same topic (what I am about to say is a big spoiler, so if you want to read the tale do it before. It is pretty short anyway) A bluebird as this inspiration trapped in our head that can only be free when we die and its cell is open (in the tale by blowing your brains out). It is just mere speculation, I know. But each time I hear the song I can but wonder, if Bowie knew about the story and also believed as many others the art to be eternal and free after our death.
He took a lot of inspiration from books. Every so often, I still will find a line in a random book I’m reading that I instantly recognize as a Bowie lyric. It’s entirely possible.
@ POLYPHONIC, Thanks for a thought-provoking video. Just to mention, Bowie did have an interest in the spiritual , throughout his life. He was not a religious man, but when he was young, he studied and practiced Buddhism for some time. The Swedish word for Snake (the Snake temple imagery) is interesting. Bowie escaped his life threatening drug addictions by moving to Switzerland, and at that time, he needed to cut off a lot of his previous life. A kind of death. He wore a cross during his previous Berlin years, and for quite a few years afterwards, and he did study Christianity for some time. The song Word on a Wing is evidently about prayer and with a Christian heritage feel. I don't know if he ever believed in god, but he needed spirituality.
@Polyphonic - nice work, good eye. I died for less than one minute in March of 2012. It ain't what you think it is, kid. Leonard and David perceived the world through layers of enormous egos. Had they not they would not have written such (for me dirge-like) music. David understood death quite well as evidenced in the Berlin Trilogy and I credit Iggy for that influence of "carpe diem' in his work. David was "defeated" by his own perceived mortality back in 2013 - check out the photos of him from that year. What turned his expansive view into that brilliant and depressing mess in 2016 I have no idea. Keep a watch on Iggy - he is going the same route as David and he needs better friends. Oh goddess this is depressing. We could be heroes.
+ Polyphonic While I do not agree to all your conclusions... you’re analyzing two artists I’ve listened to and tried to understand for at least 35 years, I DO appreciate your sincere effort. Well done, I’m a subscriber now. + MrLyvik: The Villa of Ormen could also mean a house in the Norwegian hamlet Ørmen. Bowie had a girlfriend starring a movie being shot in that very region back in 1969. And yes, the word, in English spelling (O for Ø) also means the snake/serpent in Nordic languages. And it could be a reference to Jörmungandr, the World Serpent from our Nordic mythology. Etc. Etc. So very Bowie.
Being a dragon, my perspective might be a little skewed, but I do believe it's possible that Mr. Cohen isn't addressing God as an external entity in "You Want It Darker", rather he is addressing the collective mind of the human species as the deciding factor for its own fate. He doesn't come across as so pathetic a man as to resign himself to hope. Could he be asking YOU, the listener, if you want it (culture) darker than it currently is? He has seen how bad it has already become and is ready for death. He's played his hand as best he could, and now it's up to the people. It's up to YOU if you worship the light or the darkness. You make this choice in every action, every breath, every thought. Choose wisely.
I've lately found myself obsessed with death, music, and art. I'm extremely delighted to have found your channel though the many 'Bowie character' videos. Thank you.
"Hineni" is Samuel's answer to God's calling to him in Shilo (even though he believes it's Eli the high priest calling)...this was my first association when hearing this haunting song.
I felt the same about black star, when I first heard the lyrics I believed David was saying that I should be inspired by his life, not just sad that it's over.
You want it darker , is brilliant, I bought the album before Cohen passed, and actually googled Heneni when I heard it, as for dark star, again brilliant
It’s not exactly a deep analysis though and he keeps referring it to Christianity. Rav Jonathan Sacks of England did an amazing tribute to the Cohen song, worth checking out.
I am thankful for the time you put into your videos. I seek for videos like these on TH-cam all the time, and you hit the sweet spot of what I need. Keep it up and thank you.
My number one hero artist is Bowie, the second is Leonard Cohen, and the third is a super talented Spanish composer "Joaquin Sabina", the three of them have written about death and the way they accept it, but still in their epitaph seems it's written "I strongly disagree"
So very privileged to have seen both these men several times in their careers over a 40yr period...I can go to MY grave a happy man. Pure genius, captured in time forever they belong to us all in work, their talent and their history. How many of us can say that?
Buddhism was definitely one of Bowie's spiritual paths. But I think it's worth mention that Leonard Cohen, alhough Jewish, also spent time in a Zen Buddhist monastery in the 90's. That's the great thing about Buddhism - it makes no demand that it be your only spiritual path. (Says the Zen agnostic.)
Q&A @ Polyphonic: I really liked this compare/contrast style of album/song review/critique wherein you examined two different songwriters unique approaches to addressing a common subject matter. If this was a stand-alone piece in that style, I'd like to see more like this one from you. I believe that I've seen videos where you deep-dive into famous covers of already famous songs -- covers that eclipsed the popularity of the original composition (i.e.: Jimi Hendrix' hypersonic feedback-laden deconstruction of Bob Dylan's folk poem, "All Along The Watchtower"; Johnny Cash's old-school Countrified respinning of Nine Inch Nails' stark, minimalistic and quietly-menacing Industrial classic "Hurt" into a lovesick ode to his then-recently-late wife, June, as well as a reflection on his own life; et. al.); but, while those definitely are interesting and compelling stories to explore in their own right, and ones that I'd of course look forward to with great anticipation, I'd also like to see more which follow this specific compare/contrast format, too!
I'm very grateful to anyone who describes their experiences with death, dying, and near-death experiences. Not only is it scary, it's also deeply personal and soo open to interpretation.
Oh man, I agree. "Every Frame a Painting" and "Nerdwriter" are two of my favorite channels. Polyphonic seems to have the same thought provoking feel and approach. Subscribed a couple days ago after watching quite a few of his videos over a couple of weeks.
Fantastic video. All this Bowie talk reminded me of his album Heathen. I think a deep dive into the title track and "I would be your slave" would be great. Especially as a follow up to the subject matter in this video.
I think that David showed us is the complete dignity we can face our death with. I know he was sad because he would be leaving Iman and jis family. I know when my death comes I will think of David. I still miss him.
Cohen was a student of Zen, Bowie of Chungyam Trungpa Rinpoche for a time, both Buddhadharma linneages and not thestic in any way. As a buddhist myself i do not seek refuge from death, i have given up, there is none, i explore living beyond the narrow confines of egoic definition. As fellow buddhists these artists explored," what dies?" able to live in the discomfort of no answers, able to live and maybe even die comfortable in paradox. Here i am but i never was.
Cohen's song reminds me of Poe's poems! Bowie once said in an Interview that he hopes his legacy would be that his work inspires others. Both gained true immortality by staying alive through their art in the hearts, minds, lives and arts of others!
You're quite the Bowie fan. I appreciate that you don't over-analyze the Blackstar video as some others do, saying it's a 'ritual' and anti-Christian (which to me wouldn't matter as a Noahide..)
Interesting video although there is far more to Black Star than has been mentioned here. Just do a few searches and you will find out. As for Cohen I don’t know as much about him as I do Bowie as he’s my favourite artist ever. They were both facing death in their own unique and inspirational ways. May Blessings be upon both of them, Cazangelcat⭐️❤️🌙
It would be cool if you did a follow up by including Gord Downie's extraordinary final album - Introduce Yourself. All three of them were exceptional artists and poetic lyricists.
I luved these 2 artist I guess they r my all time favorite artists ever ,, and I saw n met so many but I missed LC in concert , great regrets , but I've searched how to die gracefully my whole life ty Leonard,,and ty David , I miss u but I will meet u n heaven I believe
It would be wrong to say that Bowie was never religious. In the 1960's he came close to becoming a Buddkist monk (and was cremated in a Buddhist ceremony), while in the late 70's and early 80's overtly spoke about Jesus/God, and in his Live Aid appearance led the audience in a recital of the Lord's Prayer. It may be that he never consistently was religious, but he certainly explored the concept and his relatonship to it throught his life.
'Ormen' in swedish means 'the Snake', a specific snake, 'the Snake' with a big S; like a name. Now if someone could offer some insight in why he inserted a swedish word in an otherwise english song, that would be great. And the last time I checked 'villa' means a stand alone house (in swedish as well as english), and wasn't short for 'village'.
Ormen is also an actual place in Norway. For what it's worth, Bowie's 60's girlfriend visited the village for a movie shoot - makes me think there is a personal aspect to the "villa of Ormen", along with whatever symbolism we wish to see in it.
What's confusing to me, is that "Ormen" is a word in Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian, but with slight differences in meaning. In Danish, it'd be "the worm", but *the* worm seems to indicate something mythical, making me think of Jormungandr, or Midgårdsormen in Danish, literally "The Midgard Worm". Seeing as he lives in all of the seas, and ostensibly couldn't fit in - nor have use for - a villa, one would think that worm/snake in question is the other big worm/snake: the Devil. Thing is, "Ormen" is not a common name for the Devil at all in Denmark, and I have no idea if it is in either Swedish or Norwegian. It's just such a weird metaphor, because it either demands some pretty big leaps, or it's incredibly complex. It's just kind of weird to introduce a foreign word to what ends up being a pretty bland and jumbled metaphor. I guess I also subscribe to the theory that he is referencing something personal, be it the village or otherwise.
BeyondSideshow I have to think you’re right. Marianne (if I’m remembering her name correctly) was a girlfriend he never quite got over and was in touch with near the end of their lives. She was Norwegian and Bowie wears a shirt which is tribute to her in one of his later videos. Kind of a sweet story; his wife knew of course.
My thinking once you said that it means snake was that of jörmungandr which itself is an example of the symbolism of the ouroboros (snake that is eating its own tail.) so like the cyclical nature of things I suppose. That is my supposition anyhow.
This comment section is wild, I've seen people call Bowie a hardcore Christian, a complete atheist, an agnostic, a Buddhist, a magick practicing warlock, a cultist, and a hermetic something or other. Maybe, just maybe, none of you know what religion Bowie was, and you're all just guessing.
He listed some of his spiritual beliefs in one interview - including pottery
Bowie was a mystery. I love him
"...I'm not quite an atheist and it worries me. There's that little bit that holds on: "Well, I'm almost an atheist. Give me a couple of months."" Blackstar is very obvious that he finally reached that point.
@@chopsueykungfu I feel that way too! But are you saying he ended up an atheist?
@@melizmatea he ended up a Buddhist, complete with funeral arrangements. There is no deity in Buddhism.
The freaky thing after Blackstar is No Plan. It's like Bowie (as immortalized by his legacy, not the person) speaks from a certain form of afterlife, no longer existing as a person but existing as something else. In addition, the vinyl sleeve for No Plan EP is an octogram with the lowest point longer than the rest, suggesting some sort of "rise". If Blackstar is about his death, No Plan is him resurrecting as a different entity altogether.
Interesting. I haven't listened to it yet, I'll have to check it out.
Yes, it was a remarkable piece of art. It hurt me and healed me so much.
Exactly. When I first heard it, I couldn't help but become teary-eyed because we thought "shit, Bowie planned everything."
It was simply his hew persona.
Did you know the day after Bowie passed astronomers found what may be a new planet in our solar system?
I honestly believe that there is more to Cohen's Epitaph. Judging by his journey - as an artist as well as a human, he shows not just angst. Cohen confronted a variety of philosophies and captured these beautifully - as early as his quasi-existential 'Suzanne' to somewhat Buddhist influenced late albums, 'You want it Darker' forms a really compelling finale for his whole career. It is a fine finale for a man who has lived through a lot - and accepts troubles of fate, the life itself with all the heavy baggage. Just as it says - he is READY to accept miserable human life in all it's forms, moreover - on his own terms.
kompstrumpcziwadze Well said. I feel this video-analysis really missed the mark and that the writer is not understanding the song album or artist from a Jewish perspective the way he understands Bowie from a Christian one. I don’t expect him to start studying Talmud but all the same, he could have done a lot more. Jonathan Sacks for example did a moving short video on the Cohen song which was a great introduction to the themes; perhaps Polyphonic will (re-)do a video on Cohen in future.
@@acchaladka I also felt the Cohen part was lacking. Cohen has always held a place in my musical heart. I first heard him in a movie about teen angst. 'Everybody Knows'. I was a teen and it spoke to me but for some time it was the only song of his I listened to. Couple of years later at around 18-19 I rediscover what I consider classic Cohen. Suzanne, Sisters of Mercy, Chelsea Hotel, Who by the fire, etc. At the time I was into underground electronic music. It was 1997 but Cohen was the soundtrack of my first relationship. I was listening and re listening to his songs and amazed at how everytime the beauty of his writing touched me. After that, years were hard for me. I didn't listen to much music. Jump to 2012 on a cold early spring morning. I had spent the night at a rave and I was walking on Ste-Catherine in Montreal when I notice a sharply dressed man crossing the street. Loafers, jacket, scarf and fedora. I recognize him but I also recognize that he is not Cohen at that moment. He is Leonard, so all I say is 'Good morning mister Cohen' and he nods. Couple years later I was running an Airbnb corner St-Dominique and Marianne in Montreal. From my balcony I could see his front door but I ignored he lived there until I hear the news of his passing. With many others we held vigil in the park in front of his place. Flowers and candles by the hundreds but also oranges and incense. A testament to his spiritual quest and curiosity. As I was taking a panoramic picture Bird on a wire was playing and a radio someone had left amongst the offerings. As I left So Long Marianne was playing and I look up to see that Marianne street has been unofficially renamed.
Bowie wrote his own requiem. It’s one of the most badass things I’ve ever heard.
Lazarus.. that is really the song of reflection, letting go, acceptance, and death. I'm surprised you didn't go with that one.
Yes, and no plan.
Because Lazarus wasn’t written for Blackstar. It was written for the Lazarus musical as a song for Thomas Jerome Newton. It wasn’t sung from Bowie’s own perspective.
Cohen will always be one of the greatest, accepting darkness as part of life. Him and Johnny Cash, man. Then balanced by rock n roll artists like Elvis and Bowie just make the best of both worlds.
as a musician, this video was truly in all senses beautiful in how you dug deeper into the songs of these amazing artists and beyond scratched the surface of bigger questions of a bigger picture. needless to say I'm hooked on this channel now
Cool video. I'm impressed with it. I also just lost my husband 2 weeks ago. He chose to die at home. It was terrible to watch him suffer but caring for him was a back breaking labor of love I was honored to do for the man who took care of me for 29 years. Fly high Leonard and David and Jeff 🙏🧚♀️⚘💕
Great work! On Black Star, I think Bowie is hyper aware of the idea that great artists are supposed to be outliers that serve an important place in society as a whole. Great artists help us explore and evolve as individuals and a society, and Bowie understands that he is one link in that chain. Because he falls, it makes room for an artist of equal influence, a star of equal magnitude to rise in his place.
Very astute. Bowie was so aware, he was writing songs about being aware of that awareness. It was hard to wrap your head around.
Thanks man! Haha and yes, love your description of the layers on top of layers of Bowie
Reading that makes me weep all the more for his passing.
Very insightful
Two months on TH-cam and you have 31k subscribers. There's a reason for that. Great job
That was really insightful. Enjoyed that
Dying is a re-birth
What a fantastic analysis!!! Many thanks!
@@ricardojmestre I thank you, Ricardo Mestre, for sumarising my own reaction to this video.
(I turned 71 last week)
@@CLL9262 my belated congratulations!
Add in Nick Cave's Skeleton Tree and you have the three greatest albums on death all released in 2016
Jonah Burt and Trump getting elected lmao. 2016 was wild #neverforget
@@austinchaseofficial 2016 was basically a year-long funeral. So many celebrities, young and old, were dying.
Skeleton Tree is about the death of Nick's son.
TY I will check it out
God to Cohen arriving in Heaven :
- *Truth is... The game was rigged from the start*
Always has been.....
Listen to Cohen's posthumous CD "Thanks For The Dance" recorded soon after "You Want It Darker" gained some momentum. He realized that he still had more to say...and he said it. His son Adam produced it. Watch the video "Leonard Cohen "The Story of Thanks for The Dance" to get a full appreciation for this new album.
Bowie and Cohen are gems of the Earth. Both gave us Irony , satire , sarcasm and suspiciously pleasurable ,emotions to deal with. But apart from that , really interesting and talented nice people whom I adore for their artistic contributions to those who continue
...and Cave. Nick Cave. Still with us so listen up :D
This channel is soo small and it just barely started, but I know this channel will get big. This is an amazing channel, definitely subscribing! =)
its getting big now!
381K subs as I type rn
@@farooqansari This channel now has over 383K subs. 🤓
Right you were
Bro has 1M rn
This channel is beyond excellent - absolutely blown away
just found out this channel. Great work.
Soo the Bowie part made me cry, out of all people i wish he could jsut keep living
Me too...but when your time is up, your time is up. No takebacks, no extensions...and deep down, I think he did understand that.
I cried like crazy when he died. I remember I ordered that album, then saw the Lazarus video, which made me really anxious and the next day I learned that he passed away... That was in the middle of my personal bad experience and it was very devastating.
2 days after that I went to put a candle and a bunch of flowers by the place in downtown Manhattan, where he used to live. I was rather shocked by the fact how small that place was, squeezed between 2 stores, while, in London, there was a huge space where people placed flowers, candles, artworks etc..
There were murals commemorating David and so on. Yet, in NY, where he had lived for so many years, there was just a 5 to 10 meters space where people could place their things....
There is something that haunts me in the song Lazarus.
One of my favorite short stories, by Rubén Darío, is called Bluebird (el pájaro azul), which deals with the same topic (what I am about to say is a big spoiler, so if you want to read the tale do it before. It is pretty short anyway)
A bluebird as this inspiration trapped in our head that can only be free when we die and its cell is open (in the tale by blowing your brains out).
It is just mere speculation, I know. But each time I hear the song I can but wonder, if Bowie knew about the story and also believed as many others the art to be eternal and free after our death.
"Only Death Can Pay For Life." 8417
He was a big reader, so maybe.
And then there is a poem by (Maulana Jalaluddin) Rumi as well, should check that out
The interesting thing is that the original name of Lazarus was Bluebird, which then became The Hunger and finally Lazarus.
He took a lot of inspiration from books. Every so often, I still will find a line in a random book I’m reading that I instantly recognize as a Bowie lyric. It’s entirely possible.
@ POLYPHONIC, Thanks for a thought-provoking video. Just to mention, Bowie did have an interest in the spiritual , throughout his life. He was not a religious man, but when he was young, he studied and practiced Buddhism for some time. The Swedish word for Snake (the Snake temple imagery) is interesting. Bowie escaped his life threatening drug addictions by moving to Switzerland, and at that time, he needed to cut off a lot of his previous life. A kind of death. He wore a cross during his previous Berlin years, and for quite a few years afterwards, and he did study Christianity for some time. The song Word on a Wing is evidently about prayer and with a Christian heritage feel. I don't know if he ever believed in god, but he needed spirituality.
Way Before Berlin years.
@Polyphonic - nice work, good eye. I died for less than one minute in March of 2012. It ain't what you think it is, kid. Leonard and David perceived the world through layers of enormous egos. Had they not they would not have written such (for me dirge-like) music. David understood death quite well as evidenced in the Berlin Trilogy and I credit Iggy for that influence of "carpe diem' in his work. David was "defeated" by his own perceived mortality back in 2013 - check out the photos of him from that year. What turned his expansive view into that brilliant and depressing mess in 2016 I have no idea. Keep a watch on Iggy - he is going the same route as David and he needs better friends. Oh goddess this is depressing. We could be heroes.
LOOKING FORWARd to many more analysis from you. Wish there was much more, much deeper discussion in society than there is. Thanks for posting.
Polyphonic, you gotta do a video essay about “Hurt,” analyzing both the Nine Inch Nails original and the Johnny Cash cover. That would be incredible!
+ Polyphonic While I do not agree to all your conclusions... you’re analyzing two artists I’ve listened to and tried to understand for at least 35 years, I DO appreciate your sincere effort. Well done, I’m a subscriber now. + MrLyvik: The Villa of Ormen could also mean a house in the Norwegian hamlet Ørmen. Bowie had a girlfriend starring a movie being shot in that very region back in 1969. And yes, the word, in English spelling (O for Ø) also means the snake/serpent in Nordic languages. And it could be a reference to Jörmungandr, the World Serpent from our Nordic mythology. Etc. Etc. So very Bowie.
Being a dragon, my perspective might be a little skewed, but I do believe it's possible that Mr. Cohen isn't addressing God as an external entity in "You Want It Darker", rather he is addressing the collective mind of the human species as the deciding factor for its own fate. He doesn't come across as so pathetic a man as to resign himself to hope. Could he be asking YOU, the listener, if you want it (culture) darker than it currently is? He has seen how bad it has already become and is ready for death. He's played his hand as best he could, and now it's up to the people. It's up to YOU if you worship the light or the darkness. You make this choice in every action, every breath, every thought. Choose wisely.
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Your perspective isn't skewed,it's spot on.
It’s true
My understanding as well. That november with elections...
Yessssss 🙌🏽
Would love to see you dig into some other famous and chilling swan songs. Queen's Innuendo, for example?
that somg is so good
I've lately found myself obsessed with death, music, and art.
I'm extremely delighted to have found your channel though the many 'Bowie character' videos.
Thank you.
This documentary on death is exeptional ... thank you!!
I hadn't heard of Cohen before, but hearing this song, i'm gonna pick up an album or two for my collection.
Did you end up getting any Cohen albums? He’s is an outstanding writer. A real story teller and a voice that commands the song 😎
Nicely researched & written, spoken, choreographed & executed.
How can someone not like Cohen and Bowie? Diamond dogs tour is just heaven. And the thin White duke live... Crazy classics
"Hineni" is Samuel's answer to God's calling to him in Shilo (even though he believes it's Eli the high priest calling)...this was my first association when hearing this haunting song.
Lior Goell I first thought of it in relation to Isaiah when he responds to God’s question of “who will go for us?”
I felt the same about black star, when I first heard the lyrics I believed David was saying that I should be inspired by his life, not just sad that it's over.
Fantastic interpretation of Blackstar! I was not familiar with Cohen's album prior to this video, but I will have to listen to it now. Thanks!
This was great!
I saw a Bowie tribute show yesterday, and I went to Cohen’s house when he died. Thank you for this.
Warren Zevon , keep me in your heart.
You want it darker , is brilliant, I bought the album before Cohen passed, and actually googled Heneni when I heard it, as for dark star, again brilliant
Jew here, the part about Judaism checks out 110%. Amazing video, nice job!
It’s not exactly a deep analysis though and he keeps referring it to Christianity. Rav Jonathan Sacks of England did an amazing tribute to the Cohen song, worth checking out.
As there is no such thing as 110% save a miss guided statement, what are you saying?
What a channel, friend. I'm in awe. Thank you for this.
I am thankful for the time you put into your videos. I seek for videos like these on TH-cam all the time, and you hit the sweet spot of what I need. Keep it up and thank you.
My number one hero artist is Bowie, the second is Leonard Cohen, and the third is a super talented Spanish composer "Joaquin Sabina", the three of them have written about death and the way they accept it, but still in their epitaph seems it's written "I strongly disagree"
So very privileged to have seen both these men several times in their careers over a 40yr period...I can go to MY grave a happy man. Pure genius, captured in time forever they belong to us all in work, their talent and their history. How many of us can say that?
Also Bowie was always spiritual - you could say he was into alternative religion
Kiran Evetts was going to say this. Even though he wasnt so much into organised religion, all his work is deeply informed by spirituality.
maybe its individuality he has always been, many artists, musicians etc. flow in that aspect
He was Buddhist if I’m not mistaken.
Buddhism was definitely one of Bowie's spiritual paths. But I think it's worth mention that Leonard Cohen, alhough Jewish, also spent time in a Zen Buddhist monastery in the 90's. That's the great thing about Buddhism - it makes no demand that it be your only spiritual path. (Says the Zen agnostic.)
he was a Buddhist for a while and was treated as a Buddhist when he died
Q&A @ Polyphonic:
I really liked this compare/contrast style of album/song review/critique wherein you examined two different songwriters unique approaches to addressing a common subject matter. If this was a stand-alone piece in that style, I'd like to see more like this one from you.
I believe that I've seen videos where you deep-dive into famous covers of already famous songs -- covers that eclipsed the popularity of the original composition (i.e.: Jimi Hendrix' hypersonic feedback-laden deconstruction of Bob Dylan's folk poem, "All Along The Watchtower"; Johnny Cash's old-school Countrified respinning of Nine Inch Nails' stark, minimalistic and quietly-menacing Industrial classic "Hurt" into a lovesick ode to his then-recently-late wife, June, as well as a reflection on his own life; et. al.); but, while those definitely are interesting and compelling stories to explore in their own right, and ones that I'd of course look forward to with great anticipation, I'd also like to see more which follow this specific compare/contrast format, too!
Polyphonic videos brought me here - the first video you posted, and already so good.
So thoughtful and timely. Their deaths shook me and I still think about them as if they are here.
I'm very grateful to anyone who describes their experiences with death, dying, and near-death experiences. Not only is it scary, it's also deeply personal and soo open to interpretation.
missed this one when it was posted. So glad I caught it late. I thoroughly enjoy your incites into my favorite music. well done
I highly recommend checking out "Kaddish (Montreux) - Ofra Haza" to hear a cool musical version of the Jewish prayer for the dead. It's beautiful.
This channel is like 'every frame a painting' of music
Keep up the good work!
Oh man, I agree. "Every Frame a Painting" and "Nerdwriter" are two of my favorite channels. Polyphonic seems to have the same thought provoking feel and approach. Subscribed a couple days ago after watching quite a few of his videos over a couple of weeks.
Thanks for respected two favorites artist. Great Job!
video is great one of the best productions i've watched on youtube. But i think you can make a video just about the blackstar album.
Agreed, I would love to do a whole video on Blackstar alone. I plan to in the future!
Keep up the great work! I'm waiting for it.
Polyphonic I could tell. Wish you did a much better and in-depth analysis of the Cohen album.
I truly hope you know how much I appreciate your work. You are a master of your craft. Godspeed.
Outstanding video. You’re able to connect 2 of the greatest with such compelling narrative.
That may be the best explanation of the Blackstar video I've heard. well done.
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It's actually been confirmed to be Major Tom.
Fantastic video. All this Bowie talk reminded me of his album Heathen. I think a deep dive into the title track and "I would be your slave" would be great. Especially as a follow up to the subject matter in this video.
yet another superb video. don't stop posting some bro. very informative and truly amazing
I agree with many of these comments: I'm excited to see where this wonderful channel will go from here
This is good - quality work. Well done my friend.
Excellent Video! Thanks!
Keeps this going dude, its so beautiful to see! Thanks for this awesome vid
I have to say. One year later and this is still your most powerful video.
art. without it we are already dead. thanks for another great video. well done!
Two of my favorite artists. Sadly, both now gone. But you are right in that what they have left behind has made them immortal.
Great work, i'd love a video about John Frusciante's music and lyrics
This video gave me goosebumps.. Well done!
I think that David showed us is the complete dignity we can face our death with. I know he was sad because he would be leaving Iman and jis family. I know when my death comes I will think of David. I still miss him.
Really well done video, hits home, thank you!
Cohen was a student of Zen, Bowie of Chungyam Trungpa Rinpoche for a time, both Buddhadharma linneages and not thestic in any way. As a buddhist myself i do not seek refuge from death, i have given up, there is none, i explore living beyond the narrow confines of egoic definition. As fellow buddhists these artists explored," what dies?" able to live in the discomfort of no answers, able to live and maybe even die comfortable in paradox. Here i am but i never was.
Cohen's song reminds me of Poe's poems!
Bowie once said in an Interview that he hopes his legacy would be that his work inspires others.
Both gained true immortality by staying alive through their art in the hearts, minds, lives and arts of others!
Dude your videos are freakin awesome, good job!
Absolutely spot on analysis, well done!
Stars are never sleeping
Dead ones and the living.
Fragment from "Stars (Are Out Tonight)" from The Next Day, previous album before Blackstar
You're quite the Bowie fan. I appreciate that you don't over-analyze the Blackstar video as some others do, saying it's a 'ritual' and anti-Christian (which to me wouldn't matter as a Noahide..)
Interesting video although there is far more to Black Star than has been mentioned here. Just do a few searches and you will find out. As for Cohen I don’t know as much about him as I do Bowie as he’s my favourite artist ever. They were both facing death in their own unique and inspirational ways. May Blessings be upon both of them, Cazangelcat⭐️❤️🌙
Great last sentence! Thank you so much for this very interesting video!
Great job my friend!
Sir, this video was truly amazing!
Thank you for this insightful and meaningful video. ❤❤❤
It would be cool if you did a follow up by including Gord Downie's extraordinary final album - Introduce Yourself. All three of them were exceptional artists and poetic lyricists.
These are extremely well done. Keep up the good work!
I luved these 2 artist I guess they r my all time favorite artists ever ,, and I saw n met so many but I missed LC in concert , great regrets , but I've searched how to die gracefully my whole life ty Leonard,,and ty David , I miss u but I will meet u n heaven I believe
Very well done. Thank you.
Wonderful content
Why did Bowie say “Ormen” in Swedish? As a Swede, I’m flattered, but I don’t understand why.
Very interesting video though ❤️
Also a swede here, I think it's just because it fitted better lyrically, I mean "In the villa of the snake" doesn't have the same creepy vibe
I loved both. Great losses in 2016.
The intro song is fourban by pracs
It would be wrong to say that Bowie was never religious. In the 1960's he came close to becoming a Buddkist monk (and was cremated in a Buddhist ceremony), while in the late 70's and early 80's overtly spoke about Jesus/God, and in his Live Aid appearance led the audience in a recital of the Lord's Prayer. It may be that he never consistently was religious, but he certainly explored the concept and his relatonship to it throught his life.
Another phenomenal video.
Great job you did here, thanks for doing this!
In France, Bashung (one of our greatest artist) also create an amazing album just before he died and it's incredible.
David bowie's view on death reminded me of Foscolo's "Dei sepolcri".
No Plan broke my heart
Truly excellent video
Interesting video...........kudos to you making it!
'Ormen' in swedish means 'the Snake', a specific snake, 'the Snake' with a big S; like a name. Now if someone could offer some insight in why he inserted a swedish word in an otherwise english song, that would be great. And the last time I checked 'villa' means a stand alone house (in swedish as well as english), and wasn't short for 'village'.
Ormen is also an actual place in Norway. For what it's worth, Bowie's 60's girlfriend visited the village for a movie shoot - makes me think there is a personal aspect to the "villa of Ormen", along with whatever symbolism we wish to see in it.
What's confusing to me, is that "Ormen" is a word in Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian, but with slight differences in meaning. In Danish, it'd be "the worm", but *the* worm seems to indicate something mythical, making me think of Jormungandr, or Midgårdsormen in Danish, literally "The Midgard Worm". Seeing as he lives in all of the seas, and ostensibly couldn't fit in - nor have use for - a villa, one would think that worm/snake in question is the other big worm/snake: the Devil. Thing is, "Ormen" is not a common name for the Devil at all in Denmark, and I have no idea if it is in either Swedish or Norwegian.
It's just such a weird metaphor, because it either demands some pretty big leaps, or it's incredibly complex. It's just kind of weird to introduce a foreign word to what ends up being a pretty bland and jumbled metaphor. I guess I also subscribe to the theory that he is referencing something personal, be it the village or otherwise.
BeyondSideshow I have to think you’re right. Marianne (if I’m remembering her name correctly) was a girlfriend he never quite got over and was in touch with near the end of their lives. She was Norwegian and Bowie wears a shirt which is tribute to her in one of his later videos. Kind of a sweet story; his wife knew of course.
My thinking once you said that it means snake was that of jörmungandr which itself is an example of the symbolism of the ouroboros (snake that is eating its own tail.) so like the cyclical nature of things I suppose. That is my supposition anyhow.
Very good. Just come back from a funeral today. I am a visual artist / musician. Your insights are very interesting 😊