Tonya Harding 1990 NHK Trophy (Asahikawa) SP "Two Tribes" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood

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  • Tonya Harding / Тоня Хардинг / トーニャ・ハーディング
    1990 NHK Trophy - Original Program - November 23-25 1990, Asahikawa, Japan
    1990 NHK杯国際フィギュアスケート競技大会 1990年11月23日-11月25日 旭川大雪アリーナ
    Music: "Two Tribes" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood
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  • @46foryounger
    @46foryounger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    When she skates you can see and feel how much she loves it

    • @gutz1981
      @gutz1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What is amazing is that after 20 years (16 at this point) of doing it, she never seemed to be sick of it. She was born to do it. So I can't imaging nothing worse than being banned for life from competing from a sport you basically reinvented.

    • @valmacclinchy
      @valmacclinchy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gutz1981 Absolutely horrible. They took away her whole life at the time.
      Thankfully she went on, continued to skate (just not compete), did Dancing With the Stars, and most importantly, has her own family now.

  • @leschatsmusicale
    @leschatsmusicale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I love her outfit here! It really suits her attitude and energy.

    • @Kaboomboo
      @Kaboomboo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Her mother made it.

  • @dashoverton1963
    @dashoverton1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Tonya’s spins were just as good as her jumps. This was often overlooked.

    • @valmacclinchy
      @valmacclinchy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely, and her footwork sequences were phenomenal, too.

  • @MistressGlowWorm
    @MistressGlowWorm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    28 years ago, and it looks like it was filmed yesterday. Japanese has all the cool equipment.

  • @mickeybell2633
    @mickeybell2633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Tonya was ahead of her time. If only she had had the support she needed.

  • @IndigoBellyDance
    @IndigoBellyDance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Had she of been born to a family where she was not abused and maybe a bit more means..... Wish the judges would have solely scored on her skating alone. She had sooooooo much talent and passion. No one skates like her. A joy to watch.

  • @vorenus13300
    @vorenus13300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    the talent she had. Omg i’m crazy about this girl , she’s obssess me

    • @wisek4535
      @wisek4535 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Amber yes me to. She was something extra. To bad that politics rules in this sport.

    • @richardcarden4161
      @richardcarden4161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back in the day she was very attractive.

  • @janemariecox6547
    @janemariecox6547 6 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Those marks were a total insult to her and her talent

    • @MultiMia123456
      @MultiMia123456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Agreed ! Not a single fault ! She deserved the highest marks :O

    • @strengthadmirer3184
      @strengthadmirer3184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hardly watch Midori Ito's performance. But it was very good and Tonya deserved slightly higher marks, but compared to Ito, not the best.

    • @ekatt7692
      @ekatt7692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Totally☹️. Can imagine what was running through her head.

    • @mrsmacca126
      @mrsmacca126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think you’re right. That trailer trashy costume = judged on appearance/ economic status, rather than talent

    • @janetdishler3039
      @janetdishler3039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gotta say,I do love her costume!

  • @frankieb43
    @frankieb43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love this presentation. And her dress too. So bright and sparkling. Fantastic music too xx

    • @hollyjolly2066
      @hollyjolly2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The whole thing is stunning! 💯

  • @danklies9606
    @danklies9606 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    GIRL. This is my favorite costume out of all of them. It is rainbows.

    • @hollyjolly2066
      @hollyjolly2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love it, too!! Others have commented that it was subpar, but I don't understand that. It's unique and gorgeous - never saw a costume like that!!

    • @valmacclinchy
      @valmacclinchy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hollyjolly2066 gorgeous costume..and she's a really pretty young lady here, too. She's still attractive, even in 2023.

  • @MTknitter22
    @MTknitter22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Amazing when you understand the cliqueish world of US ladies figure skating that this gal went as far as she did. She never had the designer outfits tailored just for her,hairstylists and makeup people or the expensive PR assistance. It all makes a difference in the artistry -

    • @geslinam9703
      @geslinam9703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And yet she will be remembered more than most of them….
      As much as I enjoy all the pretty outfits, it shouldn’t be about how they look. Maybe they should all wear the same thing, and be judged for their ability, as it is in most sports.

    • @valmacclinchy
      @valmacclinchy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@geslinam9703 that's an outstanding idea!!

    • @valmacclinchy
      @valmacclinchy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tonya will always be my favorite female skater. 💙

  • @phyllisruthmick5391
    @phyllisruthmick5391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Maybe not Tonyas best performance or outfit, in my humble opinion of course, but that last spin was amazing! I don't think I've ever seen her do that before or probably anyone else either. If I'm not mistaken she changed positions three times, the last position with her hands/arms behind her back, was magnificent! Tonya was a beautiful girl, she was what, 19 years old in this video? She was quite lovely, her face was so pretty and her hair was really cute! I can't believe that people thought she was too big or that she weighed too much and that she wasn't pretty!!! Total BS!!! She was just right in every way!!!💖

    • @hollyjolly2066
      @hollyjolly2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I LOVE that costume - it's one of my absolute favorites! Just stunning!

  • @JG-kw7um
    @JG-kw7um 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Miss Harding was such a great skater and oh so talented. This is how I love to remember her career ( on a high note). And I just love how she wipe her head/hair! Very sassy!!

  • @glaznflip1501
    @glaznflip1501 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Wow great to
    See Tonya compete in HD! Japanese technology was way ahead of its time back then.

  • @auntiechercher4266
    @auntiechercher4266 7 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Tonya was a great skater. This was her peak time and I am sorry that things didn't go well for her afterwards. She was such a talent and it is nice to see old clips that really showed her ability and her at her top form! THANKS FOR POSTING!!!!

  • @chriscoyne9717
    @chriscoyne9717 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I love the Japanese commentators reaction at her layback spin 2:42

  • @lexiekrewitt1735
    @lexiekrewitt1735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love her so much!!!!! She is a diamond as a skater and as a human as well!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @patwhit8414
    @patwhit8414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Such a strong and spectacular skater!

  • @EddValdez
    @EddValdez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was before her 3As..... and still better than any of Nancy's performance

    • @hollyjolly2066
      @hollyjolly2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, indeed!! 💯

    • @jeffreyabess6542
      @jeffreyabess6542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nancy was the worst so boringggg

    • @user-il5oq5df6l
      @user-il5oq5df6l 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kehrigen's skating never had the sense of excitement that Tonya's had.

  • @Hana-F
    @Hana-F 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here something to think about... the judges were classist towards harding. Anyone else agree?

  • @alisondorian2306
    @alisondorian2306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    one of the greatest...(never a dull moment with Ms. Harding)

  • @hollyjolly2066
    @hollyjolly2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I LOVE that costume!!!

  • @averyvolk3355
    @averyvolk3355 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The audience seemed far less excited here. In all of her US performances before '94 her jumps were always met with enthusiastic cheers and claps. And no question she should have scored higher!!

  • @thomascardenas4656
    @thomascardenas4656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This camera quality is insane 💯

  • @louisgrassimedium
    @louisgrassimedium 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    She always averaged 5.7 for this short. Even presentation-wise, she scored way too low for what she did, and she was enthusiastic while performing a beautifully unique program for the times. Technically, it was a 5.8 or 5.9 average, and stylistically it was a 5.7-5.8.

    • @SDoesNotKnow
      @SDoesNotKnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Disagree. Tonya's jumps were good here, but someone like Midori's jumps were even higher at this competition, and Ito did a Rippon on her solo double jump. Both Ito and Yuka Sato showcased much more technical prowess in their skating skills and choreography by having more complex steps and choreography in-between with more control over their movement and positions (much more control and superior positions in Sato's case). Tonya's spins were fast and centered but her positions were basic (outside of the layback) compared to Ito and Sato's more complex combination spins. Sato's flying camel was also fast. Midori had the best step sequence out of all of them and showed some difficult edge work during her spiral sequence compared to Harding. All of that comes into play when judging both the technical merit and presentation scores.

  • @tonowari
    @tonowari 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    i would wear that outfit to the grocery store lol i love it

    • @searanch32
      @searanch32 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      MAKE. THIS. HAPPEN.

    • @Laffingrl
      @Laffingrl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@searanch32 ,the skates too? LOL

    • @ddjr6673
      @ddjr6673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I totally LOVE the outfit - it is so "out there" and just amazing. Always loved her - wish she could have held it all together.

  • @abrahamlora329
    @abrahamlora329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great start to her golden season (first at Nationals/second at Worlds) even with some good but not great scores here at NHK.. her scores did shoot up at Worlds to be more reflective of her performance level. She performed early in Munich in the SP yet pulled some 5.9’s so clearly the judges were ready then to give her high scores for skating clean..

  • @AmusedChild
    @AmusedChild 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my favorite costume of her and my favorite short/original program.

  • @Iceis_Phoenix
    @Iceis_Phoenix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She is he best of all time. ⛸

  • @BmcC102
    @BmcC102 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Brilliant!

  • @johnbondmakeup
    @johnbondmakeup 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish she had kept this program through to the Olympics, it really belonged to her !!

  • @USA-qm2bk
    @USA-qm2bk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She loves the double axel,at the end

  • @Dylvente
    @Dylvente 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for sharing! This was a really good short program for her.

  • @lakegirl239
    @lakegirl239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Tonya was the greatest skater and unfairly maligned. If she only had the support & PR machine that other skaters with favored skaters had, how far she would have gone. She was stellar. Exploited by a loathsome husband. The lifetime ban by the skating union was criminal.

  • @militzawheeler3037
    @militzawheeler3037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ...i love Tanya, i hope she is doing well.

  • @nathanmdunbar
    @nathanmdunbar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow thank you for posting this! The high definition video is so great!

  • @tootsla1252
    @tootsla1252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fierce. Powerful.,

  • @richardcarden4161
    @richardcarden4161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good looking lady back then.

  • @RakuRadio
    @RakuRadio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Rubbish score! Presentation was fabulous!

  • @Itstonytime77
    @Itstonytime77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quality of this video is so good

  • @Bakerboy1958
    @Bakerboy1958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My only complaint would be how she hold her hands. She’s using “jazz hands”. If she had closed her hand out her fingers together the hand positions would not look so awkward

  • @MTknitter22
    @MTknitter22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Many thanx for this high quality video!

  • @nicoleymacaroni
    @nicoleymacaroni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Judges need fired for not being fair tonya deserved higher marks

    • @janetdishler3039
      @janetdishler3039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tonya in her own words said she felt she was always treated fairly in Japan!

  • @ardishorwich4601
    @ardishorwich4601 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of my favorite performances of hers. Also my favorite dress. It’s exquisite and perfect for her.

    • @Dylvente
      @Dylvente 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely! According to one of the commentators at '91 Worlds, this was one of several dresses made by her mother, which, if true (and I suspect it is), is interesting given that her mother was very abusive toward her at times.

  • @ayanna6327
    @ayanna6327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Technically I'd give this a 5.8-5.9 and presentation I'd give it a 5.8.

  • @josanirdocarmooliveira5922
    @josanirdocarmooliveira5922 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sempre foi perfeita em suas apresentações.! TONYA!

  • @JonathanBickford
    @JonathanBickford 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks so much for posting!

  • @detlefkrzossa6039
    @detlefkrzossa6039 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gute Bildqualität ! Danke !

  • @toreythomas6023
    @toreythomas6023 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love her

  • @chriscoyne9717
    @chriscoyne9717 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this outfit. One thing I noticed that improved the heck year is the way she held her arms and hands. She didn't seem to notice them here, just focusing on what she needed to be fast and athletic, but the judges pay attention to that. Also had she freshly colored her hair she could have been judged better on appearance

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris Coyne Yes and remember another thing many skaters had that Tonya lacked - the $$$ ballet training most of the girls got from a young age to develop the grace necessary-

    • @SDoesNotKnow
      @SDoesNotKnow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MTknitter22 That's actually not true. Tonya also got a tons of comped coaching thanks to Diane and also took dance/ballet lessons too. A lot of champion skaters didn't get that but worked hard despite their lower economic backgrounds. The problem is that she took it all for granted and was ungrateful about it. All stemming from the fact that had an unstable and abusive family home making her turn out the way she did.

  • @evamarek5205
    @evamarek5205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tonya was a great skater. Definitely Olympic gold medal material. It's such a shame that the slandel happened that ruined her career and brought Nancy Kerrigan stardom.

  • @danniifan3115
    @danniifan3115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never knew that she skated to Frankie Goes to Hollywood. I know that Bourne & Kraatz did in 1996. Did she use the same short at 91 worlds?

  • @rosesavoy9035
    @rosesavoy9035 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Way to underscored!

  • @MsBritnia
    @MsBritnia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I never understood her weird jazz hands. Everything else is flawless but her hands are crazy.

  • @douglasstewart558
    @douglasstewart558 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glorious

  • @haunguyen2001
    @haunguyen2001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quality video

  • @timothyhh
    @timothyhh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This shows how good she could have been.

  • @The_Naughty_Kitten
    @The_Naughty_Kitten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💚 💙 Team Tonya 💚 💙

  • @soskika419
    @soskika419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The floor looks like a mirror❤

  • @marina_8036
    @marina_8036 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I LIKE SO MUCH HER MUSIC CHOICES!!!!
    But what is the name of the song???

    • @USA-qm2bk
      @USA-qm2bk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maria Dimou Frankie goes to hollywood

    • @Kaboomboo
      @Kaboomboo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Two tribes by Frankie Goes to Hollywood

  • @phiengphathaimaniphone9953
    @phiengphathaimaniphone9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @summerlate2799
    @summerlate2799 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can someonee translate what the commentator is saying? Thanks!

  • @musicalperson17
    @musicalperson17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great performance, but she skated this program best, with more gusto, at 1991 Worlds. Perhaps her best SP performance ever

  • @joceeduardobazqueslopez7885
    @joceeduardobazqueslopez7885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    La que patino siendo. Siega

  • @sister015
    @sister015 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why the scores so low? 🤔

  • @Danny2491
    @Danny2491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the name of the music
    ?

  • @md65000
    @md65000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doesn't Japanese have a word for "jump"?

  • @gracielamehlich8860
    @gracielamehlich8860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Era la mejor y le arruinaron su carrera.

  • @AMD1114
    @AMD1114 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dody seems alittle indifferent towards tonya or maybe disappointed.

    • @searanch32
      @searanch32 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I thought she looked disappointed in the scores, not with Tonya.

  • @csarah7948
    @csarah7948 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone keeps in the comments keeps saying she was "underscored for her talent", but let's keep in mind that she only did 1 combination and 1 another jump. In the ENTIRE program. If anything, she should have gotten more points in artistic and for a clean program.

    • @user-kf6yt4mn9v
      @user-kf6yt4mn9v 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No, she did all the required SP jumps. The jump out of connecting steps had to be a double at this point, and she did a double Flip.

    • @catherines4088
      @catherines4088 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This was the short. You're only ALLOWED to do 8 elements.

    • @catherines4088
      @catherines4088 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      to be more clear, in the short, they were required (and only allowed) to do one triple/double combination (she did triple lutz/double toe), 1 double jump (she did a double flip), and the double axel. Sooo... yeah.... welcome to skating.

    • @freddiemercury4evr
      @freddiemercury4evr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@itsallgoodman1244 you really don't need to be nasty to someone.