How To Pace A Time Trial Like A Pro

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  • @xGshikamaru
    @xGshikamaru 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    There really needs to be more TT content on GCN, damn this bike is gorgeous

  • @thatguyjimbo
    @thatguyjimbo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    a visor should be developed so the power meter can be projected on the visor/lens of a helmet.

    • @josh.cohenmusic
      @josh.cohenmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jimmy Men i think people have tried it but never really took off

    • @matthewhaase700
      @matthewhaase700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think some glasses are out now that do this, it’s a great idea for sure

    • @davidleonardpir
      @davidleonardpir 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use it in work. I would do it on a bike. It would be way too distracting. It would be fairly easy to crash

  • @bathcyclist977
    @bathcyclist977 9 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    That bike!! I'm sorry Dan but I didn't catch a single word you said.. That bike!

    • @brendanhoaglund7772
      @brendanhoaglund7772 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a stunner!

    • @OPFSow
      @OPFSow 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Brendan Hoaglund no, its a speedmax 😉

  • @AdamWarrix
    @AdamWarrix 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't forget a good warmup. I feel like my legs don't hit their stride until 6 or so miles. I do a warmup to get them ready. Chris Boardman once said to pace a TT from feel you should ask one question. "Can I sustain this pace for the rest of the distance?" If the answer is yes, you are going too easy. If the answer is no, it is already too late. The answer should be maybe.

  • @yosoypatrick
    @yosoypatrick 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely bike, and perfect timing, I'm doing the E2/25 course for the first time this weekend!

    • @yosoypatrick
      @yosoypatrick 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Patrick Smith Thanks so much again for this video Dan, I smashed my PB this afternoon!

  • @1989srjones
    @1989srjones 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    please could you do a video on how to alter the set up of a road bike for a TT / how to get clip on aerobars set up correctly.

  • @campbellgildersleeve5243
    @campbellgildersleeve5243 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm the kind of dude to ride like i'm in a tt, or peloton, or race or so on on the street for no reason. Seriously, no reason, but it gets me to and from place to place very quickly and it's loads of fun because i'm working and going really fast and smooth.

  • @aysekexx
    @aysekexx 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving that Canyon, what a beautiful bike.

  • @TonyFlexPromo
    @TonyFlexPromo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was probably one of the most useful non-technical video from GCN i've ever saw! Thanks!

  • @daneandersen9765
    @daneandersen9765 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good to see Matt using his 2012 olympics time trial saddle holding skills!

  • @CulturalCats
    @CulturalCats 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wait what? In chronological order, first section is 1/3 of the race, the next segment is the second 1/3 of the race, and the third begins at the halfway point. SO...
    Segment 1: From 0 --> 2/6
    Segment 2: From 2/6 --> 4/6
    Segment 3: From 3/6 --> Onwards?
    I'm sorry GCN, but not all of us are expros who can hit 88 MPH and go back in time for the third segment, so I'm sure we'd all appreciate it if you could give a rough guide for those of us unable of temporal shifts. Apart from that, love the somehow still perfectly styled hair at 1:45, even after having a TT helmet on. Oh and the video too, though the hair sort of overshadows it a tad.

  • @D.Eldon_
    @D.Eldon_ 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one Dan! Very nice vid which covered the bases well.

  • @rene318
    @rene318 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work! Just the thing i was looking for. Great bike! Saving up for the Speedmax al 9.0 sl

  • @MaximilianSterlingTv
    @MaximilianSterlingTv 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the super imposed shot

  • @NathanBudd
    @NathanBudd 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video, but a bit late as the TT season is pretty much at an end now. Also, it would be useful if you gave an indication on the sort of power/HR zones people should aim for for given distances.

  • @TheWaxChainFanClub
    @TheWaxChainFanClub 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, Dan!
    I wonder who Dom Estique could be.... certainly no clues given there.
    Nice "cycling shorts" reference whilst resting on the bike there, Dan. The winkle compass appears to be pointing East.

  • @jasonvantslot8934
    @jasonvantslot8934 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be great if you guys could do a video on "How to do a hill climb" ie where it's a short -+ 10 minute intense effort.

  • @christrickett3291
    @christrickett3291 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ride a route from my house into a forest over mainly tarmac, but there is also a rough track at the top, so I am on a mountain bike. I time myself every time and most of the time try to beat my record, right from the start.
    I will spare you the details but my first time was 38:00 something which shocked me. I won't tell you the distance because it would make me look really slow (albeit the elevation gain is stiff and this is an altitude ride - not to mention I weigh 98 kilos as I am also a semi-serious bodybuilder).
    I worked hard for a few months and got my time down to 25:00, but then I stopped breaking my PB although I knew I was not up to full speed by any means.
    Then I watched this video...
    Next time I rode, I decided to time myself but not to go for the record. I wanted to try the new approach without judging it, or myself, too quickly so opted to ride the first half in HR Zone 4 and to review my progress at half distance.
    To cut a long story short, that very day, after pacing myself sensibly, I took almost a full 3 minutes off the time.
    I have since got it down another 40 seconds.
    What I had been doing was going out full throttle and trying to build up a time cushion, and then crawling over the finish line hoping for the best.
    Now, I do the first half at 70% effort and then have power left to do the full throttle stuff in the last third.
    All thanks to this video :D
    Cheers, lads!

  • @Daft2e
    @Daft2e 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:30 - awesome shot/editing, fellas!

  • @seandillon4641
    @seandillon4641 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think Dan needs a skin suit 😂😂

  • @benstewart5334
    @benstewart5334 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and I like the bonbeano helmet

    • @earthstick
      @earthstick 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ben Stewart I thought he said Danbino

  • @mynaamiskaas
    @mynaamiskaas 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan, those photos of you as a pro, damn bro... You looked good!

  • @AndreLai97
    @AndreLai97 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan should try a split nose saddle, much less strain on your back when
    bending down low and aero. I recommend the Tritone(since you guys are sponsored by fizi:k :D)

  • @SwedishHouseFifa
    @SwedishHouseFifa 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just casually rewatching all of GCN old videos, actually it's funny because now I can produce the same power on my TT bike!

  • @julianvandaalen1151
    @julianvandaalen1151 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it Dan. Have you ever thought of posting a 'GCN does Pizza' video? You could make a pizza and divide it up a third, a third, a half and then 20%. Good luck with that, I can't wait to see it! #toobusyridingforsums

  • @elliothuntley9284
    @elliothuntley9284 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    plz do a vid on how to pick up bottles and bags when riding

    • @LukeGJPotter
      @LukeGJPotter 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Elliot Huntley Pretty sure that's just physics bro.

    • @elliothuntley9284
      @elliothuntley9284 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

  • @nicoyim2595
    @nicoyim2595 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    gcn could you do a video on dan and his experiences with the cervelo test team? would really love that

  • @lightofheaven134
    @lightofheaven134 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude i did not even realize how good looking is a zipp 808 black decal is. I ripped mine a week ago and changed the decal to white!!!!. Fucking most regrettable thing i did for my bike!!!!!

  • @felixg4785
    @felixg4785 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you upload a video on how to avoid crashing during a race?

    • @Eddieboy3385
      @Eddieboy3385 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      easy just kick the rider next to you and youre good

    • @BikePvP
      @BikePvP 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Felipee Rincon just put trouble behind you. and if you are riding in a cat 5 race, then that means you have to break away and put everyone behind you.

    • @felixg4785
      @felixg4785 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha

  • @marcolehenbauer9955
    @marcolehenbauer9955 9 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Dan looks hilarious on a tt bike

    • @gcn
      @gcn  9 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Are you implying that he doesn't on a road bike?

    • @SirkyNL
      @SirkyNL 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Global Cycling Network hahaha yes he does xD. espacially his beard haha

    • @stustjohn
      @stustjohn 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought he had a bit of the Wiggo look with a beard & in the TT position...

    • @felixg4785
      @felixg4785 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Marco Lehenbauer better than you for sure..

    • @SirkyNL
      @SirkyNL 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Felipee Rincon this was just a funny comment GCN himself event reacted funny to it dont be such a little kid!

  • @GenAvSpotting
    @GenAvSpotting 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Dan, you were so much more of a boss when you rode for the Cervelo Test Team and raced on a Cervelo P4 (did anyone know he raced for the Cervelo Test Team? He really did). Come to think of it, you were probably faster too.

  • @matthewmarsh9195
    @matthewmarsh9195 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dan what team did you ride for again??

  • @elliothuntley9284
    @elliothuntley9284 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    dan should use a disk wheel at the back and i five spoke then he will look even more like a boss but, even so dan is a pretty boss on that canyon.

  • @robsonmadsen5331
    @robsonmadsen5331 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2/3 + 1/2 + 1 leg = TT ?

  • @chowychow
    @chowychow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do a review of the Speedmax.!

  • @howard9110
    @howard9110 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You really should have a lot more TT videos, you don't seem to have done that many.

  • @samuelcherrier-vickers7139
    @samuelcherrier-vickers7139 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boss! 2/3 is bigger than a half, Boss!

  • @gazelleonwheels
    @gazelleonwheels 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Dan truly is Wiggo's doppelganger.

  • @dobby156
    @dobby156 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to make your videos more seasonal, the TT season just ended, do one about the hill climbing season!

  • @tommccann5394
    @tommccann5394 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st third - 2nd third - halfway - max effort. This sounds like Dan recalibrated his drinking strategy halfway through the evening.

  • @lookylooish
    @lookylooish 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully with so many newcomers to power meter manufacturing, the cost will be dropping so more cyclist can benefit from the superior training they offer.

  • @MrVanioko
    @MrVanioko 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    should have posted this video before the TT season starts in Britain

  • @Maxmaxz
    @Maxmaxz 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In adding clip-on bars to a normal road bike, how should one expect alter saddle position to achieve a suitable TT position?

  • @darraghmcb
    @darraghmcb 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Matt practicing to take part in a grand tour as a lady who pushes off a rider during the TT?

  • @SuperFabiotv
    @SuperFabiotv 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a channel , which uploads regulary and as a format similar to this one , but with the major topic being running and marathons?
    Like global running network or some sort

  • @yio5000
    @yio5000 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    just been rainford (10 mile tt), beat my PB by 2:30

  • @markmathews1072
    @markmathews1072 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who was the handsome young chap half way through in what appears to be Cervelo Test Team kit?

  • @dkim0829
    @dkim0829 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think about the idea of U-shaped effort being faster than gradual increase in effort? Supposedly, U shaped effort is faster. I read this recently on some website. I think an exercise physiologist Dr. Huang wrote an article or reviewed an article about it.

  • @AlexandarHullRichter
    @AlexandarHullRichter 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Dan's vanishing camera. Where can I get one that disappears and reappears like that?

  • @LBLLBLBLBLB
    @LBLLBLBLBLB 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it Bradley Wiggins or Daniel Lloyd?

  • @joshwooley4924
    @joshwooley4924 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys should do a 10 mile itt presenter challenge

  • @modesource
    @modesource 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I didn't realise GCN had such a low budget. Where is the full disc back wheel?!?!

  • @gingerrussell
    @gingerrussell 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who made the animation of Dom at 1:30? It's great!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +RustyR Rich Mich.

  • @olistenning4260
    @olistenning4260 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    get your head down!!!

  • @TheWaxChainFanClub
    @TheWaxChainFanClub 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Daft question, are time trial bikes generally geared differently?

  • @Brainless437
    @Brainless437 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Powermeter myself and I have troubles to push my TT bike with the same wattage as my Road bike.
    I can ride my normal Roadbike with 280 Watts but on my TT bike I only manage to get like 250 Watts. Is this just a "get used to" issue or could there be another issue that I cannot the full power?

  • @AlasdairxD
    @AlasdairxD 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I need advice.. How do I convince my mum that I need a TT or aero bike and then justify the cost of it?!?!?!

    • @andrej458
      @andrej458 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Alasdair White Win a time trail

    • @Polioooo0
      @Polioooo0 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Alasdair White If you truly want to compete and such, tell her that you want to try it. Show her you want it really bad, and maybe make an offer like you pay half or something. Also tell you mother that you can do it and you promise to try hard. etc

    • @TheRunescapeslayer
      @TheRunescapeslayer 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Andrej Djurasic lol wtf r u here for

    • @andrej458
      @andrej458 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Logan Rustad-Elliott wut r u here for

    • @gr0bbelaar
      @gr0bbelaar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Andrej Djurasic Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

  • @dobberislief
    @dobberislief 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you guys think about the Isaac Muon TT bike? im looking to buy it but havent found many people that shared their experience

  • @henrykennedy4366
    @henrykennedy4366 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:17 Dan looks a bit like E.T.

  • @stustjohn
    @stustjohn 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a simple way to work out what my heart rate should be for a 10km TT? If I am going at full tilt up a steep climb my HR reaches about 172 bpm max, but usually I can comfortably ride at 30+ km/h on about 140 something for hours. Is there a way to work out what I should be aiming for between these two figures?

    • @chrisgraham6031
      @chrisgraham6031 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would just do several runs similar to the one you're planning, and just see what your heart rate does. You'll probably be closer to the climbing end of the spectrum though.

  • @Lauragolding1
    @Lauragolding1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    My TT season is over :)

  • @jonasjo93
    @jonasjo93 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    but not every time trial is panflat. So how much harder do you go if the road is uphill etc?

  • @ninepinknails
    @ninepinknails 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just beat 2 Pb using 510 and live segment... Lol... No more memorizing power and trying to pace. Just look at garmin and suffer.

  • @brendan4ever
    @brendan4ever 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    He even has Matt Stephens to push him away at the start, didn't he do that at the London Olympic tt...

  • @MrKevin8432
    @MrKevin8432 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question! it's not meant to be mean!!!
    Why does Dan look so unprofessional on this bike? I analyzed this video three times and I compared it with videos from pros.
    something is wrong with him on that bike and I don't know what it is.
    Can you help me out??

  • @charliehamilton3726
    @charliehamilton3726 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dont do what i did in my last 15 km tt, got to 99% hr in the first k and for the first time split i had an average of 52km, then after the turn around i died and and had an average speed of 32 for the last 7kms= lesson learnt

  • @KarolisBorkertas
    @KarolisBorkertas 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please caption @6:04

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    GCN, you really needed to have a section devoted to a proper warm up based on weather conditions and length of the race. So much can be gained with a correctly done warm up yet you didn't even address it.

  • @RossIsBored
    @RossIsBored 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same helmet

  • @huncrosby
    @huncrosby 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, where have you done this video?

  • @Miles_on_bikes
    @Miles_on_bikes 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    hows the speedmax Dan?

  • @yrchong2000
    @yrchong2000 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boss's jersey is holding him back, no wonder he looks so slow!

  • @MelkorHimself
    @MelkorHimself 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dan wobbles a lot.

  • @tonymeader5476
    @tonymeader5476 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about the little bumps in the road?

  • @TheMerckxProject
    @TheMerckxProject 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You expect me to Dan seriously when he's wearing that much flappy kit in a vid about TTs?

  • @planespeaking
    @planespeaking 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw Mr Lloyd on TT bike on my local course he was far from hilarious and broke the course record...

  • @jayrider9966
    @jayrider9966 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ad was too long but the video was great

    • @earthstick
      @earthstick 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Jay Rider Don't you have adblocker? Can't remember the last time I watched an ad.

    • @MarkMarkson7
      @MarkMarkson7 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +earthstick You idiot! You should be convincing people NOT to use adblock. The more people that use it, the more likely youtube will take counter measures. Us adblockers need to be a secret society.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +vlbk77 Just a quick point guys, this content is free to view, and by using ad block you are kind of removing a revenue stream for us. So bear it in mind, if you like GCN, you'll watch the ads. Thanks, we really appreciate it.

    • @dddddd6124
      @dddddd6124 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Global Cycling Network ads are immoral and don't pretend that's not obvious. It is morally indefensible to tell others to watch ads. That said, your videos themselves are chock-full of ads but I watch them for the British accent.

  • @tingchun6040
    @tingchun6040 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way where i can pace without a power meter

  • @global_ragnar
    @global_ragnar 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just go like POWERRRRRRR all the way.

  • @richpen495
    @richpen495 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    seeing Dan on a time trial bike with a beard i don't know who im watching, daniel lloyd or bradley wiggins

  • @spencerfisher4080
    @spencerfisher4080 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    full gas

  • @bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling
    @bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that a fish bowl on your head? ;)

  • @multiabsolut7746
    @multiabsolut7746 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the average speed?

  • @hxduck
    @hxduck 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan... you do realised that 2/3 is greater than 1/2 o.O so you want us to be full flo0w before we go at medium effort? :P

    • @mikemazzantini6397
      @mikemazzantini6397 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +hxduck I think it was the 2nd third, which would encompass the entire area from 1/3 to 2/3.

    • @hxduck
      @hxduck 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      would have been better if he had stuck to 1/3s rather than switching around with 1/2s too.

  • @SwedishHouseFifa
    @SwedishHouseFifa 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm I the only one that gets a lot less power on my TT bike?

    • @gcn
      @gcn  9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, the majority of people find that.

    • @dave2041
      @dave2041 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +SwedishHouseFifa The power lost is more than made up for in aero gains.

    • @EatSleepTrainSmart
      @EatSleepTrainSmart 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Optimizing crank length based on your flexibility and motor control will maximize the amount of power you can put out on the TT bike.

  • @williamli8645
    @williamli8645 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the song in the first 40 seconds of the vid?

  • @madmonkeycycling9098
    @madmonkeycycling9098 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rocket bike!

  • @MiddleAgedClub
    @MiddleAgedClub 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where was this filmed?

    • @gcn
      @gcn  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +ChatTresBonne the Wye Valley in South East Wales.

    • @MiddleAgedClub
      @MiddleAgedClub 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Looks like a good spot to cycle.

  • @Joeonline26
    @Joeonline26 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aero lid....and jersey and Knicks. This video should be called 'How to pace a time trial like an amateur'

  • @MichaelJohnson-sw5zt
    @MichaelJohnson-sw5zt 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    2/3 is greater than 1/2

  • @jimmyrustler6652
    @jimmyrustler6652 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does Dan like canyon?

    • @rhiprhip
      @rhiprhip 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Lynden Pilcher Canyon is a sponsor of GCN.

    • @benbikes221
      @benbikes221 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +John As is Garmin and Fizik.

  • @TheHALZS
    @TheHALZS 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan's front brake ???

    • @mochannel25
      @mochannel25 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is hidden in the fork blades.

  • @shoots_austin
    @shoots_austin 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the music?

  • @lapries
    @lapries 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry Dan, but you just can't mount your Garmin with Gaffa tape on a bike like this one.

  • @nicholaspearson510
    @nicholaspearson510 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan has a try bike whow

  • @lucastompkins7023
    @lucastompkins7023 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    tt bikes are expensive.

  • @felixg4785
    @felixg4785 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that 15min ride at 310 watts was easy....

    • @sudocreme5080
      @sudocreme5080 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The amount of watts you put out depends on your weight, among other factors. Im light so climb hills at about 200watts and I am flying past the bigger ones who are pushing 300-400 watts. It's Watts per Kilo that counts

    • @felixg4785
      @felixg4785 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isaac McAuley I think for him it was an easy ride at 4.5W/k in 15 min. Also, there is no reason for losing weight for very short rides of 15-45 min..you just need strength on the flat

    • @ninepinknails
      @ninepinknails 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can do that wattage for precisely 2 minutes. Lol!

  • @bleskiven
    @bleskiven 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you do a negative split you have started too easy.

  • @12joeg7665
    @12joeg7665 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan needs a decent skinsuit.

  • @chrishengyw
    @chrishengyw 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    wrong kit bro