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So true about being here in San Diego! Especially near our beaches, and campgrounds here I’m sure are not cheap. (Haven’t stayed at one but our rents are like Turks n Cacos money)
When we bought our 40’ 5th wheel we wanted to see how it would do for boondocking because you just don’t know until you do it. So water tanks full, fridge and batteries full, everything we thought we needed and boondocked for three full days in the back yard. Turns out we needed stuff we never even thought of and mostly found out how long batteries and water lasted under normal use.
Flex solar panels are pretty nice for RV setups, don't expect them to power an electric oven 400 watts of panels can keep a couple laptops going nicely.
This. I love your info, but I adore, love, and appreciate how you love each other. You are relationship goals. And I’ve been happily married for 30 years!
Hey you too I'm a 74-year old man I have watch you kids for ages I'm old enough to be your dad and I've learned to love both of you even with Dave's stinky feet you guys are so uplifting to be thank you and God bless both of you
The one thing I found RVing that I didn't think about before is that it's basically a resource management game. Water in water out, power in power out, propane in propane out..water, hot or cold, etc etc
Yes, just like every other thing in life. Except in a home you just pay someone to come and do it. And you don't have to think about it. But it's still resource in resource out. And it applies to electricity and water all the same.
In most of my small buildings now I just use a 100 watt panel and usb powered lights, and even if the panel has sub par placement you can normally get enough out of them to take care of that basic.
Good points! I’m in a no-build van full time, with a homemade separating toilet, portable solar panels, power station and water in jugs, and have spent 90% of the past year boondocking in CA. Water is my primary limiting factor for how long I stay, as my 90-lb pup drinks (and fouls or spills!) a lot. I generally start with up to 14 gal, and make sure I have at least 3-5 as reserve when I leave a site to get more. I was really nervous at first, but have come to love the quiet and independence.
I just love you guys. You always know how to capture your community...always so truthful, good or bad which is a big help for many people thinking about doing this life. Safe travels ❤️
The nice part about dry camping at state parks is that most of them I have seen have bath houses. Helps save water because they have toilets and showers. Some I have seen even have laundry. Great tips
Thank you for talking about bear proofing your site. My friends and I always talk about the negligence that habituates bears to people is more dangerous for the bear than the people. Bears only become habituated to people and campsites by the negligence of humans and habituated bears are euthanized by wildlife officials more often than not. Great video!
Boondocking - great word! Brought into US English from American soldiers serving in the Philippines in the 1890’s. The last duty they wanted to be assigned was a trek to the “boondocks”.
You guys are right on! Many of your points we learned by experience. When each of our six kids graduated from High School, they got to plan the excursion for that year. We live in Nebraska, and have been around (Canada side) the Great Lakes, Washington DC, Chincoteague Island, Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore and many other places. We never called it Boondocking, just camping on the cheap. For example when we visited Washington, DC. We stayed at a reasonable Virginia RV park that was only a couple blocks from the furthest reaching subway station that took us directly into DC. No parking headaches, no car security fears, DC subways are (were) clean and safe. Good video!
Bottom line is, there is a big difference between people who jumped on the 'live in an RV/vehicle' bandwagon, and someone who is forced to do so to survive.
I agree. I chose to live the van life, but I saw a bunch of folks who were forced to live in a car and it was peek into a harsher reality. And there are those types of channels on YT. I love to see how people survive living in a typical car. Good skills and flexible mindsets to pick up.
It’s not true that people forced to live in their vehicles “made all the wrong choices in life”! Most Americans can’t even manage an emergency costing more than $400. Most live from paycheck-to-paycheck. The rise in the basics for living-housing, food, gasoline-has far outstripped the rise in wages, and seniors and disabled are especially hard hit. As a disabled senior, I’ve watched the cost of living outstrip my social security-to the point that I’m no longer classified as “very low income” according to the government, but am now below the poverty line. I had a good career that was ended due to disabling illness, and many attempts to rejoin the workforce just made me sicker. Not sure what choices would have changed that.
It is illegal to be poor. You can't sleep in your car, on the street, on benches. When my kids were young the homesless folks liked to gather at the Public Library on cold days. They would open up a newspaper or book and read or pretend to read, staywarm and nap a little. Many of these folks have mental illnesses, etc. etc. Some times kids get kicked out of their homes or leave because the new "uncle" messes with them. It's easy to say they made wrong choices, but they may not know how to make right ones.
I like that you're being completely honest about the reality of Raving. I've watched other videos and they make you believe that everything is WONDERFUL. It's not. Thanks to both of you.
Even though La Posa LTVA has a $40 14-day fee, it's really meant for those that live there all winter long. Plamosa Rd and other sites in the Quartzite area are free for 14 days, no need to go to La Posa. You're right, not all boondocking sites are free, but I know plenty of RV'ers who boondock for free all over the country all year long, they never pay for a site unless it's a full hookup once in awhile. So, one can boondock for free if you look hard enough and plan properly. Getting a bear bag to put food in while in bear country is essential and necessary. If you don't have one of those you're setting yourself up for bear invasion in your rig. Everything else was dead on, I appreciate the tips you guys always give. Thank you for having a great and fun channel.
Great information. Thinking back...our first experience camping was...a tent@1960's. Things sure have changed...but traveling/camping is still just a great experience. Enjoy! 😊😊😊
We boondocks in tents, we deal with many of the same issues. Excellent tips you’ve given here! Every summer we run into folks in RV’s who could definitely benefit from watching you guys!
Thanks for this information. I’ve been boondocking for 10years at La Posa South. I love the life style, but it is not for everyone. There have been many who have tried this lifestyle and are not prepared for the unexpected. Keep getting the message out and hopefully there will be fewer failures. Safe travels 😎😎
Great video! Boondocking is a lot of fun! I also want to mention bear proofing your campsite. Here in Colorado, bears are a real issue in most areas. So secure your trash and your food. It is usually advised to take it out away from your camping spot and tie it high up in a tree. It's safer for everyone!
Moth balls placed in old socks anout every 2 meters around your camp will keep nearly everything out, including insects.. Except for Grizzly, Polar and Kodiac bears they can climb trees. Those 3 afore mentioned typs can usually push the tree over. If you see a bear cub, run away to safety. The mother will be present and aggressive.
Bears climb trees. Bears that are used to people are smart. I had my food in a sack 12 ft up, 8 ft out , and 3 ft down from the limb. I watched bear climb the tree and chew the limb off and get my food. Get a bear proof container.
Well, I am 53 in I have been looking into this lifestyle recently and this is the first video of yours I have come across. Wow it was absolutely fantastic and helpful. Can’t wait to dig into your channel. God bless.
Staying in a parked vehicle overnight is not camping. Pitching a tent, creating an outdoor fire, sleeping outdoors or setting up chairs or cooking facilities outdoors is my idea of camping. So I would need the municipality to define “ no camping overnight vs no parking overnight “.
OK you gotta remember that not only did you grow up but the world grow up and keeps on growing. Insert change so much when people first started doing this I mean we first and go camping early 60s before 65. That’s when you dug your own hole you could have a bathroom set up you could wrap tarps around a single section of trees with a hole in the center buckets and everything else set up without a pump. You can’t do that today. The world is just too crowded. My son always complaints because we don’t have family get together‘s like we used to. My mom and dad had a big house empty lot next-door. They would hold big family gathering all the aunts and uncles all the nieces and nephews friends and family their kids. There was no hassle with the neighbors. The only hassle they had was when they had to pull the pony keg off the back porch and put it inside. But nowadays families are so spread out and I will tell you all those and snuggles and all but maybe for others nieces nephews are gone. So there’s very little family now as much as he would love to have it. So, as I was saying, your families change the world changes you have to adapt starlings never had Starbucks Wi-Fi never had Wi-Fi shoot Tv was new in the 50s I remember when I first got her first oh, OK. I had to get up and change the channel physically who is no such thing as remote control. But I digress. You all have fun and be thankful you got the amenities that you have today and remember the amenities that will be available tomorrow. I pray that you have a great time. Enjoy every minute and remember there’s problems. There’s so much fun just being together and having fun.
God, thank you for sharing. I had a feeling there is more challenges then TH-camrs are revealing. This is helping me to plan better rather than jumping. 🎉
So It seems that as rule, every patch of empty land is owned or controlled by someone who must give permission or perhaps demands a fee for its use. The opposite is generally true on the water where as a cruising sailor you can anchor pretty much anywhere unless there are specific restrictions against it like in shipping lanes. This is a freedom I would miss if I traded my sailboat for an RV.
not true, boat living is way more expensive, even if you are on the move you have to pay transient sleep fees and mooring fees as well as constantly being harassed by the harbor patrol even if you are paying.
Great job hitting those misconceptions and realistic preparations, Tanya & Dave. I really enjoyed your Ekko Group Boondocking adventure and the tip about unplugging in an rv park before venturing out beyond resource availability. Peace. 💖
Thank you for talking about a lot of places not allowing overnight camping. I work nights at a hotel in West Yellowstone and I am brought in people by the police looking for rooms multiple times a week through the summer that thought they could camp free in town. I always feel bad when we are full so they have to leave town, but also when I do have room and they end up paying last minute resort summer prices for a hotel room because they didn't plan ahead.
Interesting to see the perspective of RV'ers. You should check and compare/contrast with sailboat cruisers...many of the same issues. Free can be easier....anchoring. But slips at a marina are $$$$ Grey wastewater disposal is easy, in most cases it is pumped overboard. Black water has to be held until you can "pump out" at a dock, although if you are far enough offshore...direct discharge Power is exactly the same with RV's. A combination of solar, generator, and wind (it is a sailboat). There are some all-electric sailboats. Water is very different, in addition to larger tanks (80-150 gallons), a lot of boats have in-boat desalinization (assuming enough power) for unlimited water. Food has to be planned out, but you can fish and trade with locals at distant anchorages. Communication is the same, lots of sat phones. Both RV's and boats require their owners to do everything from routine maintenance to major repairs. Boats can sail 24 hours for days on end for long passages so a large crew is helpful. And cruisers get the joy of being seasick on occasion. Very interesting...
its easy to carry enough gas to power the generator for a long time. The limiting factor really is water/waste and propane in the winter. Personally the huge benefit of boondocking for me is the cost (zero!) and lack of rigid rules that comes with privacy. Gettin g started the first few nights was pretty scary but you get used to it quickly.
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Great video! Have you thought about a compost toilet? I have been full timing for 7 years, and I boondock 100% of the time. My Airhead toilet has been the best addition to the RV for boondocking since my solar and LiFePO4 batteries. I go about 6 weeks between changing the "solids" tank media, which is coco coir, and it is no more full than it was when first filled with fresh coir. A small computer fan runs 24/7 and dehydrates the solids so 90% of it just disappears into thin air outside through the powered vent. Because air is drawn into the toilet, there is no smell. Even in use it is the least smelly toilet I have ever used. There is a 2 gallon "liquids" tank, and it fills every few days and is just dumped in the desert discreetly. It amounts to being totally free of the situation of having to leave a site to empty your black tank.
@@stephaniessacredexpression8684 I never ever dump mine while boondocking. At home I have a hot compost pile that stays about 130F for the 6 months of the year that I am on my land in Quebec. Pee from the compost toilet is the rocket fuel for the pile, and keeps it very hot when added to the center of the pile every few weeks. But while on the road, the used media is nowhere near decomposed enough to be safe to dump anywhere. But it is legal to empty the used media into a green garbage bag and take it to a dump.Think of how many disposable diapers are legally tossed in the trash every year. The half dehydrated contents of a compost toilet are a drop in the bucket compared to that. And because I no longer need to go to RV parks or dump stations, I do have to find a local dump anyway every few weeks to get rid of a few bags of garbage. So it really is no more work to occasionally include a bag of used media with the rest of the trash.
I've been a full time vanlifer for almost 5 years and has never paid for boon docking. I know what you refer to at Quartzite though. There is a $180 fee for six months but as far as I am aware is that the only place that ask for it. I know a lot of people who go there every winter and from what I've heard they enjoy it . The majority of boondocking site allows you to stay for 14-30 days. 14 Days most of the time and then strictly speaking you need to move on. Quartzite probably knows that people have limited options on where to go during the winter, so why not cash in on that demand. Quartzite is nothing to get exited about in my opinion (I prefer Lake Havasu) but that town must coin it for a couple of months every year. Good for them!
@jamesoaks-rd4dq As far as I'm aware it is $180 for 6 months in Quartzite. As an aside for those who this is important...I don't go to Q anymore. Too many people that suck up the Internet. Not much better internet wise in Havasu, although I've had better luck on the northern side.
You can buy shower heads with a button to shut the water off. I usually rinse of, turn the water off, lather up/ shampoo +conditioner, turn the water on and rinse off. Total shower time 3 minutes 2-3 days a week depending on how many times you use the 🚽. If there’s an out house nearby, use it instead
Thanks for the input! The hubs and I are looking forward to a little of the nomad lifestyle after 14+ years of raising 2 special needs grandkids. We're trying to learn all we can!
Way back, when I was married. My husband and I would boondock for about 2 weeks in the summer at our mining claim. We had a 22ft Winnie, class A. He made a pump to put in the creek so we could pump water up to refill the motor home. We did take a tow vehicle with us. That way if we had a breakdown, we could go to the parts store. We did have an outhouse so you can save on the black water tank! Except in the night!!! We had bears galore with cubs. Um no thanks. I’m not taking a gun to the pooper, in the dark!! Lol. We had like 4 other couples also join us. Awesome times. This was when we only had CB’S!
Wow, thanks so much for sharing Melissa! It sounds like great memories!! Yes, we agree about heading outside to the bathroom in the middle of the night with animals like bears around!
Thanks! I just crawled from under the rock I will living for the last 20 years and found these nuggets of information most useful! Where would we all be without your guidance? THANK YOU all knowing all seeing OZ.
i have also seen people using a rotating red or amber light on the top of the truck plugs in the cigerette lighter and let it flash, that light was spotted 5 miles from a plane that passed over us too. the trailer next to us had it on the top of his truck , his wife and my g/f were the one doing CPR on my friend. since then i got certified for CPR, thank god for that, my friend spend 3 weeks in the hospital and his better for the help.
So on the subject of showers - You can convert to a recirculating shower if you're a bit handy, which will greatly extend your water supply while still smelling like a civilized person.
When boondocking in bear country make sure everything is locked up. We were visited by bears one night and they tried getting in our boxes in the back of the truck. The tear drop camper down from us, the bears opened the back of camper to get into the kitchen. We always carry bear spray in the truck and camper and when we go hiking in bear country.
As always great content! I have been full time in my Van pulling my 18 ft boat ( fish camp) for four years now. I boondock 90% and the the challenges you mentioned are what makes it such an adventure. However with the right gear and, well, tremendous amounts of research, the payoff is priceless. You did mention finding the perfect spot to be practically impossible? This is the only area I would disagree. It just takes a lot of research, footwork and patients. Now my biggest issue is waste/trash. I can stay out as long as three weeks, however trash usually brings me back to civilization. 😭 Another challenge 😂😂. Stay safe and thank you two ,
How many are as concerned as you about trash? I regularly MC outside up the mountain behind our community. People living in their RVs dump their trash out of sight while they're parked. Not all, but enough. We're witnessing a breakdown of society. Standards are out the window, things are getting progressively worse. Like a smart Judge once said.. take care of your own business! good advice. If everyone did that, there wouldn't be any problems.
Hello Tanya & Dave , I really enjoyed watching this video today . It’s a fun way to see what you have been doing lately . Boondocking sounds like the way to go sometimes. If you are up to winging it. That would be me .The sunset was beautiful in this video . Keep on Turning It Up out there 💜💜
Thank you for that wealth of information! Boondocking and harvest host was presented like it’s such a valuable valuable thing. I’m glad you mention the downsides also! I’m new to being solo, so appreciate the info!
Growing up camping at the beaches of Southern California the laws were always no overnight camping, but overnight parking was. So as long as awnings were in and chairs and tables were put away you were only parking, not camping. I guess the homeless and transient population has ruined that option for the rest of us.
We have always camped on our vacations. 3 kids, we started in a tent, then a popup, then a 36' motor home, then back to a tent. With the rv, I had to "boondock" in many rest areas because no sites were available. Still, you are in a moving house, so it was not that bad. I would never go back though. I think our next evolutionary step will be renting cabins.
I feel like everyone should be intimate with boondocking as a form of emergency planning. Because no matter how next-level your rig is...breaking down in a remote location, nowhere near amenities, is a real possibility. Bonndocking teaches you that when you get stranded, it's not the end of the world.
Also not mentioned. What are you doing when out in the boondocks? If you want to go do something, unless you have a towed vehicle, you will have to pack up and take your RV with you to Walmart etc.
Great video guys!! Defiantly showcasing a lot of information that is pertinent to boondocking. Of course, a compost toilet will help with waste management (definitely a biased opinion!) but overall, you guys have given some of the best and most practical tips. Keep on "taking that wheel" and enjoy your journey!
Hey Tanya and Dave. Y'all are so funny, I just love it. Enjoy camping it's fun just remember to leave no trace so it'll be there for many more years so others can experience it also.
Great video great information for me, your videos are very educational you educate people about the ends and out of Vanlife and I think that’s awesome. Keep up the excellent work guys. Thanks for sharing.❤️❤️❤️🌎🌎🌎
I’ve suggested to Hubs that to save money while staying in Provincial/state/national parks is to not take sites with sewer or water. We’ve come across campgrounds that have electric outlets at all sites so we were thrilled to charge our electronics at our tent site!
I park in the Gifford Pinchot the entire year until the snow comes. Just need a discover pass. a few bucks once a year. Sooooo many dispersed camping pull offs and no one bothers you at all. National Forests are the way to go. National Parks almost never allow camping.
I'm on my third travel trailer and Boon Docking is Great and I do it frequently for extended boon Docking I choose mountain spring or rivers that gives you a unlimited supply of water
We've never boondocked yet but I can see how boondocking and dry camping at a campground is similar to water restrictions. We've dry camped a lot and YES, I never leave home without those body wipes! They come in handy!
There are 4 large free areas at Quartzsite. Roadrunner, Dome Rock, Scadden wash and Hi Jolly. $40 for two weeks at long-term areas with dumpster and water.
Cities have made it down right illegal to for law abiding citizens to boondock, unless you are homeless. Then you can sleep and break laws, do drugs, poop and sleep where ever you want. I saw a lady crapping in the Taco Bell drive thru and it was all good, no problemo.
I've been boondocking full time for 5.5 yes, and have never paid to camp - living in BLM and national forests. If they don't have cell service, I just don't camp there.
Since the pandemic things sure have changed. I think it's important to keep things in perspective for everything you do. Be honest with yourself if this is the kind of life you want. For me I try and be open to change and just go with the flow. Life can teach you a lot if you're are open to it.
So far, my boondocking has been for one night every other night with Harvest Host or the rare Cracker Barrel. I feel safe having the Harvest Host nearby in the middle of nowhere. Cities definitely feel less safe then they used to be. I had my UFO hitch cover abducted from my truck this week!!! It probably happened when running errands around Omaha this week.
1. $$$ to keep up the vehicle maintenance. 2.$$$ to fix breakdowns. 3.$$$ for fuel. 4. $-$$$ for paid sites. 5. $-$$$ to keep the heat on. 6. $ dump sewage. 7. 0 for free sites. 8. $-$$$ to eat out. If you do it out of a passenger car most of these costs go down, but the more you drive the more it goes up. The days of cheap are over people, unless you live very low key, go without heat, and basically only move and restock provisions every two weeks (BLM, USFS).
@@LetsTurnItUpWorldwell, not really true. The days of cheap are actually still with us. In fact it's much cheaper today. But nobody knows how to compare what we have today with what we had in the past.
I remember boon-docking in the late 1980s in my '66 Bluebird Wanderlodge. Was a LOT easier back then to just stop any-old place. The national parks were more wide-open back then, too. I remember camping on the Grand Canyon South Rim for almost two months in 1990. I moved to a different spot every day, and went into the adjacent town to get water, food, and gas once a week. At the same time, I went to a Fedex drop box to send my floppy disk to my partner for the software project I was working on. I was only rousted once during that entire time. I would plan my work on paper-and-pencil, and then turn my generator on for 3-4 hours and code. Everything else worked on batteries or propane.
We have a 40ft RV. We bought land up north (dues yearly taxes. It's still work there and we are not moving daily like yall. The site seeing I bet is beautiful for you all when at a camp site (free or with fees) camping is a job its fun also!
Thank you, Tonya and Dave, for the tips. My husband and I want to try boon docking. If you all ever travel here to Maryland, I would yo meet up with you guys.
Yes!!! To all but especially "Women, drive that Rig!" Said in my best, Move that bus! (Iykyk) voice. I have driven all but our 1st RV. And often drive it alone now and meet my husband at our site after he finishes his work day!
Hi Dave & Tanya! We haven't tried boondocking yet. We have a 2021 travel trailer and of course they started making solar and lithium batteries standard in 2022. We joined Harvest Hosts recently, so we will try boondocking in the Fall. I am a woman that drives. All Hail the Tanya's. 😂 Heading to Ohio next week for the Adventure Bandits Glampout.
I've been able to boondock all over the country and haven't paid for camping once but I'm not in a rv. In a van its entirely possible to never pay for a spot for the night.
This is on target. The other thing to remember is that when you're hunting down a campsite you're burning gas. A lot of rigs get less than 10 mpg. Distances are easily misjudged. So fill up before entering remote areas.
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So true about being here in San Diego! Especially near our beaches, and campgrounds here I’m sure are not cheap. (Haven’t stayed at one but our rents are like Turks n Cacos money)
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As a teen growing up in a farming town, the term " going out in the boonies " meant drinking beer in a farmers field.😂❤
When we bought our 40’ 5th wheel we wanted to see how it would do for boondocking because you just don’t know until you do it. So water tanks full, fridge and batteries full, everything we thought we needed and boondocked for three full days in the back yard. Turns out we needed stuff we never even thought of and mostly found out how long batteries and water lasted under normal use.
Smart to try it before you actually went out into the wilderness.
We did that but camped somewhere that was only an hour away from him our first time.
That’s a great idea.
Flex solar panels are pretty nice for RV setups, don't expect them to power an electric oven 400 watts of panels can keep a couple laptops going nicely.
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You both touch my heart in a very sweet way. Thank you for showing us how to do marriage in a loving, collaborative way - with humor!
This. I love your info, but I adore, love, and appreciate how you love each other. You are relationship goals. And I’ve been happily married for 30 years!
Hey you too I'm a 74-year old man I have watch you kids for ages I'm old enough to be your dad and I've learned to love both of you even with Dave's stinky feet you guys are so uplifting to be thank you and God bless both of you
The one thing I found RVing that I didn't think about before is that it's basically a resource management game. Water in water out, power in power out, propane in propane out..water, hot or cold, etc etc
Yes, just like every other thing in life. Except in a home you just pay someone to come and do it. And you don't have to think about it. But it's still resource in resource out. And it applies to electricity and water all the same.
@@spec24 ya or it's some magic tube that provides you with as much as you want forever (or takes it away)
In most of my small buildings now I just use a 100 watt panel and usb powered lights, and even if the panel has sub par placement you can normally get enough out of them to take care of that basic.
I love playing resource management videogames so maybe this is for me. It could be something I could do.
Good points! I’m in a no-build van full time, with a homemade separating toilet, portable solar panels, power station and water in jugs, and have spent 90% of the past year boondocking in CA. Water is my primary limiting factor for how long I stay, as my 90-lb pup drinks (and fouls or spills!) a lot. I generally start with up to 14 gal, and make sure I have at least 3-5 as reserve when I leave a site to get more. I was really nervous at first, but have come to love the quiet and independence.
My wife considers boondocking is camping at a campground without sewer hookup! 😂
I just love you guys. You always know how to capture your community...always so truthful, good or bad which is a big help for many people thinking about doing this life. Safe travels ❤️
The nice part about dry camping at state parks is that most of them I have seen have bath houses. Helps save water because they have toilets and showers. Some I have seen even have laundry. Great tips
State Parks tend to be expensive. Not boondocking!
“Get up in all them crevices” Priceless. A perfect description. I’ll be laughing for days.
Y'all know that couple on "The Great North". This is them. All the looks, the love, and the fun.
I love that show they definitely remind me of them 😂
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Thank you for talking about bear proofing your site. My friends and I always talk about the negligence that habituates bears to people is more dangerous for the bear than the people. Bears only become habituated to people and campsites by the negligence of humans and habituated bears are euthanized by wildlife officials more often than not. Great video!
Boondocking - great word! Brought into US English from American soldiers serving in the Philippines in the 1890’s. The last duty they wanted to be assigned was a trek to the “boondocks”.
Thanks for sharing Martin, very interesting!
Wow ! Did not know Ty ! ! My mom used to say “ in the boondocks “
Grew up in The boondocks of California. Always loved the word, very interesting to learn its origin. Thank you.
You guys are right on! Many of your points we learned by experience. When each of our six kids graduated from High School, they got to plan the excursion for that year. We live in Nebraska, and have been around (Canada side) the Great Lakes, Washington DC, Chincoteague Island, Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore and many other places. We never called it Boondocking, just camping on the cheap.
For example when we visited Washington, DC. We stayed at a reasonable Virginia RV park that was only a couple blocks from the furthest reaching subway station that took us directly into DC. No parking headaches, no car security fears, DC subways are (were) clean and safe.
Good video!
Thanks so much for sharing! It sounds as though you have some amazing experiences camping!!
It's nice to see you both so happy. I'm getting started with boondocking, so thanks for the advice.
A winch is something you always wonder, "did I really need to buy this?" Until the first time you use it to free yours or someone else's vehicle.
That is an excellent point, so true! We are considering adding a winch for sure!!
I don't have one, but a come along and heavy duty straps have gotten me out of a few messes
Bottom line is, there is a big difference between people who jumped on the 'live in an RV/vehicle' bandwagon, and someone who is forced to do so to survive.
They still have good ideas and helpful advice.
I agree. I chose to live the van life, but I saw a bunch of folks who were forced to live in a car and it was peek into a harsher reality. And there are those types of channels on YT. I love to see how people survive living in a typical car. Good skills and flexible mindsets to pick up.
Wow, thanks for that insight. Someone who was forced to do so to survive also made all the wrong choices in life.
It’s not true that people forced to live in their vehicles “made all the wrong choices in life”! Most Americans can’t even manage an emergency costing more than $400. Most live from paycheck-to-paycheck. The rise in the basics for living-housing, food, gasoline-has far outstripped the rise in wages, and seniors and disabled are especially hard hit. As a disabled senior, I’ve watched the cost of living outstrip my social security-to the point that I’m no longer classified as “very low income” according to the government, but am now below the poverty line. I had a good career that was ended due to disabling illness, and many attempts to rejoin the workforce just made me sicker. Not sure what choices would have changed that.
It is illegal to be poor. You can't sleep in your car, on the street, on benches. When my kids were young the homesless folks liked to gather at the Public Library on cold days. They would open up a newspaper or book and read or pretend to read, staywarm and nap a little. Many of these folks have mental illnesses, etc. etc. Some times kids get kicked out of their homes or leave because the new "uncle" messes with them. It's easy to say they made wrong choices, but they may not know how to make right ones.
I like that you're being completely honest about the reality of Raving. I've watched other videos and they make you believe that everything is WONDERFUL. It's not. Thanks to both of you.
First video I’ve seen of you guys and I’m hooked. really good tips and short and to the point. Thanks
You two are so cute together. Truly enjoyed your video.
Are they partners now, I used to watch her and she was single im sure. Hope so, she looks really good and happy.❤
I just love your positivity Tanya and Dave! Enjoy your adventures be safe travels ❤
Even though La Posa LTVA has a $40 14-day fee, it's really meant for those that live there all winter long. Plamosa Rd and other sites in the Quartzite area are free for 14 days, no need to go to La Posa. You're right, not all boondocking sites are free, but I know plenty of RV'ers who boondock for free all over the country all year long, they never pay for a site unless it's a full hookup once in awhile. So, one can boondock for free if you look hard enough and plan properly. Getting a bear bag to put food in while in bear country is essential and necessary. If you don't have one of those you're setting yourself up for bear invasion in your rig. Everything else was dead on, I appreciate the tips you guys always give. Thank you for having a great and fun channel.
Quartzite?!? 🤩😎🤩
Quartzite …long term camping …you can stay from Oct to April for $175 one time fee…..try to avoid January as it is the peak of campers…
Great information. Thinking back...our first experience camping was...a tent@1960's. Things sure have changed...but traveling/camping is still just a great experience. Enjoy! 😊😊😊
We boondocks in tents, we deal with many of the same issues. Excellent tips you’ve given here! Every summer we run into folks in RV’s who could definitely benefit from watching you guys!
Thanks for this information. I’ve been boondocking for 10years at La Posa South. I love the life style, but it is not for everyone. There have been many who have tried this lifestyle and are not prepared for the unexpected. Keep getting the message out and hopefully there will be fewer failures. Safe travels 😎😎
Great video! Boondocking is a lot of fun! I also want to mention bear proofing your campsite. Here in Colorado, bears are a real issue in most areas. So secure your trash and your food. It is usually advised to take it out away from your camping spot and tie it high up in a tree. It's safer for everyone!
Moth balls placed in old socks anout every 2 meters around your camp will keep nearly everything out, including insects.. Except for Grizzly, Polar and Kodiac bears they can climb trees. Those 3 afore mentioned typs can usually push the tree over. If you see a bear cub, run away to safety. The mother will be present and aggressive.
Bears climb trees. Bears that are used to people are smart. I had my food in a sack 12 ft up, 8 ft out , and 3 ft down from the limb. I watched bear climb the tree and chew the limb off and get my food. Get a bear proof container.
@@kenhoyer8601 It’s better than having a bear in the middle of your camp.
Well, I am 53 in I have been looking into this lifestyle recently and this is the first video of yours I have come across. Wow it was absolutely fantastic and helpful. Can’t wait to dig into your channel. God bless.
Staying in a parked vehicle overnight is not camping. Pitching a tent, creating an outdoor fire, sleeping outdoors or setting up chairs or cooking facilities outdoors is my idea of camping. So I would need the municipality to define “ no camping overnight vs no parking overnight “.
OK you gotta remember that not only did you grow up but the world grow up and keeps on growing. Insert change so much when people first started doing this I mean we first and go camping early 60s before 65. That’s when you dug your own hole you could have a bathroom set up you could wrap tarps around a single section of trees with a hole in the center buckets and everything else set up without a pump. You can’t do that today. The world is just too crowded. My son always complaints because we don’t have family get together‘s like we used to. My mom and dad had a big house empty lot next-door. They would hold big family gathering all the aunts and uncles all the nieces and nephews friends and family their kids. There was no hassle with the neighbors. The only hassle they had was when they had to pull the pony keg off the back porch and put it inside. But nowadays families are so spread out and I will tell you all those and snuggles and all but maybe for others nieces nephews are gone. So there’s very little family now as much as he would love to have it. So, as I was saying, your families change the world changes you have to adapt starlings never had Starbucks Wi-Fi never had Wi-Fi shoot Tv was new in the 50s I remember when I first got her first oh, OK. I had to get up and change the channel physically who is no such thing as remote control. But I digress. You all have fun and be thankful you got the amenities that you have today and remember the amenities that will be available tomorrow. I pray that you have a great time. Enjoy every minute and remember there’s problems. There’s so much fun just being together and having fun.
God, thank you for sharing. I had a feeling there is more challenges then TH-camrs are revealing. This is helping me to plan better rather than jumping. 🎉
Love you guys!
A tip on not filling up my black tank, is never pee in it. Go outside. During the night-use a pee bottle, and dump the next day.
D and T, you are such a joy to watch. I can be in a sad mood until I put your video on, and all is good. Thank you, God bless.
Truck Stops are good backup locations and they are everywhere. They also have showers, laundry, etc as they have to support Truckers also.
So It seems that as rule, every patch of empty land is owned or controlled by someone who must give permission or perhaps demands a fee for its use. The opposite is generally true on the water where as a cruising sailor you can anchor pretty much anywhere unless there are specific restrictions against it like in shipping lanes. This is a freedom I would miss if I traded my sailboat for an RV.
not true, boat living is way more expensive, even if you are on the move you have to pay transient sleep fees and mooring fees as well as constantly being harassed by the harbor patrol even if you are paying.
Great job hitting those misconceptions and realistic preparations, Tanya & Dave. I really enjoyed your Ekko Group Boondocking adventure and the tip about unplugging in an rv park before venturing out beyond resource availability. Peace. 💖
Thank you for talking about a lot of places not allowing overnight camping. I work nights at a hotel in West Yellowstone and I am brought in people by the police looking for rooms multiple times a week through the summer that thought they could camp free in town. I always feel bad when we are full so they have to leave town, but also when I do have room and they end up paying last minute resort summer prices for a hotel room because they didn't plan ahead.
Interesting to see the perspective of RV'ers. You should check and compare/contrast with sailboat cruisers...many of the same issues.
Free can be easier....anchoring. But slips at a marina are $$$$
Grey wastewater disposal is easy, in most cases it is pumped overboard.
Black water has to be held until you can "pump out" at a dock, although if you are far enough offshore...direct discharge
Power is exactly the same with RV's. A combination of solar, generator, and wind (it is a sailboat). There are some all-electric sailboats.
Water is very different, in addition to larger tanks (80-150 gallons), a lot of boats have in-boat desalinization (assuming enough power) for unlimited water.
Food has to be planned out, but you can fish and trade with locals at distant anchorages.
Communication is the same, lots of sat phones.
Both RV's and boats require their owners to do everything from routine maintenance to major repairs.
Boats can sail 24 hours for days on end for long passages so a large crew is helpful.
And cruisers get the joy of being seasick on occasion.
Very interesting...
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that comparison!
I agree. Our years of sailboat cruising was great preparation for the RV life.
its easy to carry enough gas to power the generator for a long time. The limiting factor really is water/waste and propane in the winter. Personally the huge benefit of boondocking for me is the cost (zero!) and lack of rigid rules that comes with privacy. Gettin g started the first few nights was pretty scary but you get used to it quickly.
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Great video! Have you thought about a compost toilet? I have been full timing for 7 years, and I boondock 100% of the time. My Airhead toilet has been the best addition to the RV for boondocking since my solar and LiFePO4 batteries. I go about 6 weeks between changing the "solids" tank media, which is coco coir, and it is no more full than it was when first filled with fresh coir. A small computer fan runs 24/7 and dehydrates the solids so 90% of it just disappears into thin air outside through the powered vent. Because air is drawn into the toilet, there is no smell. Even in use it is the least smelly toilet I have ever used. There is a 2 gallon "liquids" tank, and it fills every few days and is just dumped in the desert discreetly. It amounts to being totally free of the situation of having to leave a site to empty your black tank.
Totally agree that the composting toilet is the way to go if you’re going to boondock
yes composing toilets work, and don't smell. you can build your own. I don't need to vent them at all.
Where do you dump the compost? Right now I’m on a friend’s land and I have a compost bin. I was wondering if I’m boondocking where I dump that.
@@stephaniessacredexpression8684 pull the bag out tie it off and dump in a garbage can. The liquid pour in the ground.
@@stephaniessacredexpression8684 I never ever dump mine while boondocking. At home I have a hot compost pile that stays about 130F for the 6 months of the year that I am on my land in Quebec. Pee from the compost toilet is the rocket fuel for the pile, and keeps it very hot when added to the center of the pile every few weeks.
But while on the road, the used media is nowhere near decomposed enough to be safe to dump anywhere. But it is legal to empty the used media into a green garbage bag and take it to a dump.Think of how many disposable diapers are legally tossed in the trash every year. The half dehydrated contents of a compost toilet are a drop in the bucket compared to that. And because I no longer need to go to RV parks or dump stations, I do have to find a local dump anyway every few weeks to get rid of a few bags of garbage. So it really is no more work to occasionally include a bag of used media with the rest of the trash.
I've been a full time vanlifer for almost 5 years and has never paid for boon docking. I know what you refer to at Quartzite though. There is a $180 fee for six months but as far as I am aware is that the only place that ask for it. I know a lot of people who go there every winter and from what I've heard they enjoy it . The majority of boondocking site allows you to stay for 14-30 days. 14 Days most of the time and then strictly speaking you need to move on. Quartzite probably knows that people have limited options on where to go during the winter, so why not cash in on that demand. Quartzite is nothing to get exited about in my opinion (I prefer Lake Havasu) but that town must coin it for a couple of months every year. Good for them!
@jamesoaks-rd4dq As far as I'm aware it is $180 for 6 months in Quartzite. As an aside for those who this is important...I don't go to Q anymore. Too many people that suck up the Internet. Not much better internet wise in Havasu, although I've had better luck on the northern side.
Such an adorable couple 😆 I think it's because you're on the same wavelength and you've got such respect for each other ❤
You can buy shower heads with a button to shut the water off. I usually rinse of, turn the water off, lather up/ shampoo +conditioner, turn the water on and rinse off. Total shower time 3 minutes 2-3 days a week depending on how many times you use the 🚽. If there’s an out house nearby, use it instead
Been camping for 30 yrs. This is really good info and experience. Keep it up.
Thanks so much!
What a wonderful and informative video. This will so helpful to anyone when considering bookdocking. What a great couple!
Thanks for the input! The hubs and I are looking forward to a little of the nomad lifestyle after 14+ years of raising 2 special needs grandkids. We're trying to learn all we can!
Hey folks this is Jim, your first trip to the Valley of Fire is where we met. Glad you’re doing good
Hi Jim! It’s great to hear from you! We miss Valley of Fire and hope to get back there soon! Are you camping there this winter?
Way back, when I was married. My husband and I would boondock for about 2 weeks in the summer at our mining claim. We had a 22ft Winnie, class A. He made a pump to put in the creek so we could pump water up to refill the motor home. We did take a tow vehicle with us. That way if we had a breakdown, we could go to the parts store. We did have an outhouse so you can save on the black water tank! Except in the night!!! We had bears galore with cubs. Um no thanks. I’m not taking a gun to the pooper, in the dark!! Lol. We had like 4 other couples also join us. Awesome times. This was when we only had CB’S!
Wow, thanks so much for sharing Melissa! It sounds like great memories!! Yes, we agree about heading outside to the bathroom in the middle of the night with animals like bears around!
Thanks! I just crawled from under the rock I will living for the last 20 years and found these nuggets of information most useful!
Where would we all be without your guidance? THANK YOU all knowing all seeing OZ.
i have also seen people using a rotating red or amber light on the top of the truck plugs in the cigerette lighter and let it flash, that light was spotted 5 miles from a plane that passed over us too. the trailer next to us had it on the top of his truck , his wife and my g/f were the one doing CPR on my friend. since then i got certified for CPR, thank god for that, my friend spend 3 weeks in the hospital and his better for the help.
Great tip!
So on the subject of showers - You can convert to a recirculating shower if you're a bit handy, which will greatly extend your water supply while still smelling like a civilized person.
When boondocking in bear country make sure everything is locked up. We were visited by bears one night and they tried getting in our boxes in the back of the truck. The tear drop camper down from us, the bears opened the back of camper to get into the kitchen. We always carry bear spray in the truck and camper and when we go hiking in bear country.
As always great content! I have been full time in my Van pulling my 18 ft boat ( fish camp) for four years now. I boondock 90% and the the challenges you mentioned are what makes it such an adventure. However with the right gear and, well, tremendous amounts of research, the payoff is priceless. You did mention finding the perfect spot to be practically impossible? This is the only area I would disagree. It just takes a lot of research, footwork and patients. Now my biggest issue is waste/trash. I can stay out as long as three weeks, however trash usually brings me back to civilization. 😭 Another challenge 😂😂. Stay safe and thank you two ,
How many are as concerned as you about trash? I regularly MC outside up the mountain behind our community. People living in their RVs dump their trash out of sight while they're parked. Not all, but enough. We're witnessing a breakdown of society. Standards are out the window, things are getting progressively worse. Like a smart Judge once said.. take care of your own business! good advice. If everyone did that, there wouldn't be any problems.
@@pujabelgian The bigger the government gets, the smaller, stupider, and less responsible the people get.
Hello Tanya & Dave , I really enjoyed watching this video today . It’s a fun way to see what you have been doing lately . Boondocking sounds like the way to go sometimes. If you are up to winging it. That would be me .The sunset was beautiful in this video . Keep on Turning It Up out there 💜💜
Thank you for that wealth of information! Boondocking and harvest host was presented like it’s such a valuable valuable thing. I’m glad you mention the downsides also! I’m new to being solo, so appreciate the info!
Growing up camping at the beaches of Southern California the laws were always no overnight camping, but overnight parking was. So as long as awnings were in and chairs and tables were put away you were only parking, not camping.
I guess the homeless and transient population has ruined that option for the rest of us.
We have always camped on our vacations. 3 kids, we started in a tent, then a popup, then a 36' motor home, then back to a tent.
With the rv, I had to "boondock" in many rest areas because no sites were available. Still, you are in a moving house, so it was not that bad. I would never go back though. I think our next evolutionary step will be renting cabins.
I feel like everyone should be intimate with boondocking as a form of emergency planning. Because no matter how next-level your rig is...breaking down in a remote location, nowhere near amenities, is a real possibility. Bonndocking teaches you that when you get stranded, it's not the end of the world.
Also not mentioned. What are you doing when out in the boondocks? If you want to go do something, unless you have a towed vehicle, you will have to pack up and take your RV with you to Walmart etc.
I've spent a few nights in Buccee's parking lots.
always buy something
stay in your RV
show up late
leave early
never been bothered
🤓 This was reality time in this one! This sounds nothing like the romanticized version I had in mind. Thanks!
What's needed is RV blimps or airships and put out an air anchor no land needed will hold position.
Until the owner of the land you're anchored to comes and chops the line.
Great video guys!! Defiantly showcasing a lot of information that is pertinent to boondocking. Of course, a compost toilet will help with waste management (definitely a biased opinion!) but overall, you guys have given some of the best and most practical tips. Keep on "taking that wheel" and enjoy your journey!
Hey Tanya and Dave. Y'all are so funny, I just love it. Enjoy camping it's fun just remember to leave no trace so it'll be there for many more years so others can experience it also.
Great video great information for me, your videos are very educational you educate people about the ends and out of Vanlife and I think that’s awesome. Keep up the excellent work guys. Thanks for sharing.❤️❤️❤️🌎🌎🌎
You’re very welcome Rosemarie! We are glad that you find our videos helpful, and truly appreciate all your amazing support!
I’ve suggested to Hubs that to save money while staying in Provincial/state/national parks is to not take sites with sewer or water. We’ve come across campgrounds that have electric outlets at all sites so we were thrilled to charge our electronics at our tent site!
As a single female I use my SUV. No matter what size, it takes a LOT of planning
I love that AC/DC t-shirt! Tanya, you always have on the coolest looking t-shirts! Thank you both for all the tips! Very informative indeed.❤
I park in the Gifford Pinchot the entire year until the snow comes. Just need a discover pass. a few bucks once a year. Sooooo many dispersed camping pull offs and no one bothers you at all. National Forests are the way to go. National Parks almost never allow camping.
Thanks for pointing out that detail: "Forests" vs."Parks"
I'm on my third travel trailer and Boon Docking is Great and I do it frequently for extended boon Docking I choose mountain spring or rivers that gives you a unlimited supply of water
We've never boondocked yet but I can see how boondocking and dry camping at a campground is similar to water restrictions. We've dry camped a lot and YES, I never leave home without those body wipes! They come in handy!
There are 4 large free areas at Quartzsite. Roadrunner, Dome Rock, Scadden wash and Hi Jolly. $40 for two weeks at long-term areas with dumpster and water.
Two funny, intelligent people. What's not to like?
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Great stuff, advice and tips! We are 4 years out from getting a rig and touring the USA and soaking in as much information as possible. Subscribing! 😊
Cities have made it down right illegal to for law abiding citizens to boondock, unless you are homeless. Then you can sleep and break laws, do drugs, poop and sleep where ever you want. I saw a lady crapping in the Taco Bell drive thru and it was all good, no problemo.
Wow, your Taco Bell story, that’s disgusting. Thanks for watching!!
I've been boondocking full time for 5.5 yes, and have never paid to camp - living in BLM and national forests. If they don't have cell service, I just don't camp there.
Great vibe and information on this channel, subbed. Looking forward to seeing more vids.
Since the pandemic things sure have changed. I think it's important to keep things in perspective for everything you do. Be honest with yourself if this is the kind of life you want. For me I try and be open to change and just go with the flow. Life can teach you a lot if you're are open to it.
such a refreshingly a-typical couple ... And the info is priceless.. subscribing.
Love all the tips... looking forward to years of boondocking...Hope to see you on the road again. It was great talking to you in Athens TX.
I hear people in Arizona are tired of listening to all the generators running so loudly all the time in the campgrounds
So far, my boondocking has been for one night every other night with Harvest Host or the rare Cracker Barrel. I feel safe having the Harvest Host nearby in the middle of nowhere. Cities definitely feel less safe then they used to be. I had my UFO hitch cover abducted from my truck this week!!! It probably happened when running errands around Omaha this week.
Damned skinny greys….
1. $$$ to keep up the vehicle maintenance. 2.$$$ to fix breakdowns. 3.$$$ for fuel. 4. $-$$$ for paid sites. 5. $-$$$ to keep the heat on. 6. $ dump sewage. 7. 0 for free sites. 8. $-$$$ to eat out. If you do it out of a passenger car most of these costs go down, but the more you drive the more it goes up. The days of cheap are over people, unless you live very low key, go without heat, and basically only move and restock provisions every two weeks (BLM, USFS).
Thanks for sharing and, yes, very true!
@@LetsTurnItUpWorldwell, not really true. The days of cheap are actually still with us. In fact it's much cheaper today. But nobody knows how to compare what we have today with what we had in the past.
Wow I visited California and there were thousand’s of RV Boon docking in every city with out any restrictions from the cops
It's so easy to see why he fell in love with her!
Y'all seem like a blast to hang out with
I remember boon-docking in the late 1980s in my '66 Bluebird Wanderlodge. Was a LOT easier back then to just stop any-old place. The national parks were more wide-open back then, too. I remember camping on the Grand Canyon South Rim for almost two months in 1990. I moved to a different spot every day, and went into the adjacent town to get water, food, and gas once a week. At the same time, I went to a Fedex drop box to send my floppy disk to my partner for the software project I was working on. I was only rousted once during that entire time. I would plan my work on paper-and-pencil, and then turn my generator on for 3-4 hours and code. Everything else worked on batteries or propane.
Very useful information. Thanks for putting it out there for us! Stay safe! 💖
You’re very welcome Sheryl, thanks for watching!
We have a 40ft RV. We bought land up north (dues yearly taxes. It's still work there and we are not moving daily like yall. The site seeing I bet is beautiful for you all when at a camp site (free or with fees) camping is a job its fun also!
Thank you, Tonya and Dave, for the tips. My husband and I want to try boon docking. If you all ever travel here to Maryland, I would yo meet up with you guys.
I finally watched this and I am getting ready to take control of that big ole wheel for the first time and it is about time.
I always thought as well. Don't be afraid to stop in a cheap old motel and get that spot in the morning!
Yes!!! To all but especially "Women, drive that Rig!" Said in my best, Move that bus! (Iykyk) voice. I have driven all but our 1st RV. And often drive it alone now and meet my husband at our site after he finishes his work day!
BTW, love your video, just stumbled on it for the 1st time today. We have RV'd for over 23 years now and this was still helpful! Thank you!!❤
Have good maps and know how to use them. Don't rely on your phone maps unless your going to a campground.
Great tip! 👍
Amen ! Plus I love reading a map
I love your channel. Dave I love to hear you call Tanya baby you say it with so much love. God bless you both. Stay safe out there.
Hi Dave & Tanya! We haven't tried boondocking yet. We have a 2021 travel trailer and of course they started making solar and lithium batteries standard in 2022. We joined Harvest Hosts recently, so we will try boondocking in the Fall. I am a woman that drives. All Hail the Tanya's. 😂 Heading to Ohio next week for the Adventure Bandits Glampout.
I've been able to boondock all over the country and haven't paid for camping once but I'm not in a rv. In a van its entirely possible to never pay for a spot for the night.
I am so glad I found your channel. You guys are so awesome!! Thank you.
This is on target. The other thing to remember is that when you're hunting down a campsite you're burning gas. A lot of rigs get less than 10 mpg. Distances are easily misjudged. So fill up before entering remote areas.