Analysis: Video Game Commentary
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Sources:
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Silent NFL Game ESPN: www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/st...
Boom Goes the Dynamite: • Boom Goes the Dynamite
Let's Get Ready to Rumble Worth: abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/le...
Consequences of Erudite Vernacular...: www2.psych.utoronto.ca/users/p...
Why Do News Anchors All Talk the Same?: www.nbcnews.com/id/44740700/ns...
Serral vs Stats • Stats vs Serral PvZ - ...
StarCraft 20th Anniversary Stream day 2: • StarCraft 20th Anniver...
2020 GSL Season 1 Finals: • [ENG] 2020 GSL S1 Fina...
Ryan Hart ch d/f+2 pewgf @ Damagermany / moralbravelocustdogface
TheMainManSWE PEWGF: • Abolishing Fist Optima...
sutsProductions WCG USA 2005 Footage: • Footage of Artosis, Da...
Artosis Pylon Origin: • Original Artosis Pylon...
Tasteless Pylon Origin: • LiquidHerO's amazing h...
Tasteless Podcast Remembering iNcontroL: • Remembering Geoff “iNc...
iNcontroL Commemorative Bundle: news.blizzard.com/en-us/starc...
BGM in order:
Punch Planet - On The Run
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike - Makoto Theme
L'Orange - Antique Gold (Instrumental)
Starcraft II - Heaven's Devils
Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact - Ken & Alex Theme
Punch Planet - Training Stage
Tekken Tag Tournament - Xiaoyu Theme
Starcraft II - Terran 04
Starcraft II - Terran 02
mintcheerios - Ida's Song - เกม
Me: *jab jab jab jab*
Sf4 announcer: "I'VE NEVER SEEN A COMBO LIKE THIS BEFORE!"
Brian Fundamentals watches Core-A?
NO ONE IS EVER GONNA FORGET THIS EVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PoloFlo everyone watches Core-A
@@PoloFlo.. better question is who doesn’t watch core-a
sf4 announcer was tight
Core-A’s always an instant click
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Kyle Bortolon I’m 16.
Every single time I swear
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TL;DR: That weird announcer line made sense in Japanese.
For those interested, that weird "the weak lose and the strong win" line from SFIV is (iirc) a translation of 弱肉強食, which is what's called a "four-character idiom." Japanese has a lot of these four-character idioms, and they are usually little bits of wisdom, which is why it got called an "axiom" by the announcer. As an example, one that got absorbed into english is 一石二鳥, literally "one stone, two birds." This one from SFIV gets translated in a lot of weird ways because, if you do it literally, you get "weak meat, strong eat," which while hilarious, lacks the soul of the original. The translation that I think sounds the best in english is "The weak become food for the strong." Anyway, point is, it didn't sound so weird and awkward in the original language.
Belated edit circa April 2021:
A few have rightly pointed out that the origin of "one stone, two birds" (and the many similar idioms across a variety of languages) is contentious, possibly spreading from Greece, possibly, as I was taught, from China (the birthplace of the four-character idiom), or possibly independently in many places.
Honestly im down if we make "weak meat strong eat" into a thing
@@jexusdomel5194 sign me up.
fascinating, ty for sharing
seconding the notion to make "weak meat strong eat" into a thing
the thing is it's a blunder on the translation side because when convert to english it would be survival of the fittest
Its the jp version of "survival of the fittest"
"passes it to the man, shoots it, and boom goes the dynamite"
this dude landed the wrong job and he just rolls with it
Pretty sure it's a college kid on a university station.
@@AllUpOns He was an intern at a local news station effectively given his very first live broadcast. He was noticeably nervous for most of it, but bounced back during the sports section where he said the dynamite line.
Core-A: uploads
Me: there is still hope for 2020
Yes!!!!!
ikr, what a strange year
Definitely
Olha quem eu encontrei nos comments hshdhahhdhshdhwhs
2020 is a wash, an abject failure of a year. There is NO hope. Here's to 2021 being at least feasible.😆
That line about rewarding the listener for paying attention is spot-on. When a commentator says "there it is again!" you _feel_ like you both watched it together the last time and this time. You're watching this together, _almost like you're friends,_ and why would you leave a friend hanging by tuning out?
In the FGC, if a certain tech or combo was discovered, it would become '(insert player's name) special'
Justin Wong's 'Wong Factor' was a thing as well as the 'Daigo Parry'
Some other games adapt this too. Resident Evil 4's speedup glitch is called the "Ditman Glitch" named after the user that found it.
And who can forget Melee's "Ken Combo"
Or the amsa tech
... wobbling
Or the Mew2King angle.
Sorry, Mango angle.
Commentary is a really underated part of a lot of different types of media. I remember a few years ago, watching this cliff diving competition, a sport that I think it's kind of neat, but nothing out of the ordinary. But then, the commentary, was so good, they explained the intricacies of the sport, the background of the competitors, tidbits about interviews with the competitors. I stopped what I was doing just to watch. It really makes a big difference.
It gives it much more depth and expands and breakdowns simple things that shows more mastery in skill and execution
"LOOK AT THE TIME! LOOOK AT THE TIIIIME!"
LOOK AT IIIIIIIIIIT
HES FROM THE FUTURE
surprised we didnt hear from him in this vid tho
Easily my favorite commentary moment ever
WHO WOKE THE BABY?!
That last line they mentioned about Geoff really broke me, I dont even play starcraft but man those were some strong words.
I didnt know he passed until I viewed this video. I searched it on google, I looked up all the videos from friends talking about him. I didn't follow him obviously, but it hit me different. Like, he meant something I didn't know he meant.
@@silver2zilver unfortunately now we know how disgusting blizzard is as a company
Me too
As a Starcraft player who recently became interested in fighting games, seeing/hearing Tastetosis was a treat. And that quote about Geoff from Blizzard gets me every single time. Thanks for the feels ❤️ and keep up with the stellar content!
I’m a fighting game player looking to get into Starcraft 👍
As someone who used to love starcraft 2 during wings of liberty how hard is it to get back into the game nowadays? I really haven't looked into it much but have been looking back on my SC2 days with fondness and was tempted to revisit the game.
@@chromulus2225 You will be surprised how easy it is to get back into it
Edit: You have to grind the mechanic of course
RIP Geoff
@@josepartida1711 Play the Campaign and watch Vibe's Bronze to GM series for thr race you're looking to play.
I was like "Woohoo! He uploaded a video finally."
lol
me at the start of the video: hell yeah tastosis is in this
me at the end of the video: *crying about incontrol again*
Yeah me too, also those lines from Blizz about him...
literally got goosebumps when that part came up :'(
th-cam.com/video/WKYS1XzDRRc/w-d-xo.html
7:45 "Make some noise for STAAATS!!!"
You split my sides so hard!
*what*
"Ability to stop talking as soon as someone else starts talking"
I would make a great commentator!
6:09 Tag Commentary!
"Red is dead!"
"Blue is through!"
"Oh dear..."
The Announcer is best commentator.
"Not everyone agrees"
Shows pictures of pineapple pizza.
The perfect metaphor doesn't exi-...
So that’s what that was
And when you need a metaphor for "no one agrees" you whip out the strawberry pizza
ah-bloo-bloo
blasphemy
When you need a metaphor for “only one guy agrees” is when You bring out the strawberry pizza cuz that shit is disgusting but it got made
We do love the Artosis pylon... Thank you for including starcraft in this analysis 😊
I remember when SFIV came out in France we had the amazing Ken Bogard commenting and his energy, passion and style inspired by Japanese commenters was one big factor in the regain in interest to the fighting games genre here. So big shout out to him and the French e-sports community. Also, obligatory
Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb!
Seeing TB and inControl's faces in this video made me well up
*"When you love the game enough, you can become a part of it"*
Truest words a Gamer can ever hear
while showing Sonicfox showing up in Skullgirls
th-cam.com/video/WKYS1XzDRRc/w-d-xo.html
Penguinz0 hosting the biggest online smash ultimate tourney like ever
When you love the game enough, it becomes part of you.
This channel got me into the fgc, while I'm awful I still have a lot of respect for it.
*Feels like Christmas every time we get a new upload from Core-A...*
It hurts how true this is.
8:20 I like the subtle joke of “Not everyone agrees” :P
I know Professional Wrestling is fake, and the reason why commentary exists is that they need to make the match as believable as possible. But I would like to use this time to show some appreciation for commentators.
Jim Ross is a beloved play by play commentator because of his expressions and how much he is able to "sell" the match to the audience watching at home. His commentator is so good, he makes his partner, Jerry "The King: Lawler sound good. Lawler isn't a good color commentator because most of the time, he makes a ton of misogynistic quotes, and he just randomly yells stuff. He is pretty much a hype man. When he worked with Michael Cole or Joey Styles (Another beloved play by play guy), you can clearly tell that Jim Ross carried him. People claim that after Jim Ross left, matches started to become boring.
But going on from that, Michael Cole and Tazz are my favorite commentary duo, especially when they both worked on Smackdown. Cole gets a ton of hate for his commentary work today, because of many reasons. It's either that his catchphrases were horrible, he is constantly forced what to say by the higher-ups or his stint where he became a heel (Aka The Bad Guy). Heel commentators work only if it's the color commentator hyping the bad guy up. It creates a yin and yang feel. But when the play by play guy does it, it makes the product even worse. But going back to the duo, Michael Cole and Tazz don't get a lot of appreciation at all when it comes to commentary. But when you look at the older stuff from 2002-2005, you can clearly see how well the two synergized with each other. Cole was able to call his matches, while Tazz actually knew what went on because he recently retired around that time. They made guys like Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guererro, Chris Benoit, Edge, And Kurt Angle much more credible, especially how those guys were not considered to be the top guys until the two commentated their godlike matches. Without those two, Smackdown wouldn't have been a popular show if two less credible guys did the commentary. It made Smackdown much more believable, while Raw was over the top.
Just about everything you said is a "yep" for me as I much more vividly remember wrestlers on smackdown than I did on raw overall, though they both stay in my memory for all of the great times between both shows. There were clear standouts on smackdown and it wasn't just the wrestlers, it was the commentary backing them.
I love how much love Starcraft got in this video.
Man I was hoping Yipes would have gotten a feature in this. Wonderful video as always.
Glad I'm not alone. When mentioning duos I was hoping for a Yipes and Chris Matrix or Tasty Steve shout-out.
Yipes is such an authentic and unique commentator. He brings the hype and helps the watcher feel like they're part of the community. Love that guy!
or PIE Lee Chung
Shoutout Tastosis and the SC2 community. These interviews are AMAZING! Please more content featuring the scene :)
Wow! What an interesting (and unexpected) topic to cover!
Rip iNcontroL. Seeing footage of Geoff always gets me.
My first language is not English, that's why I am always grateful for the commentators who speak loud and clear, thanks to that I have been able to feel the hype of many tournaments and for that I will always be grateful
The thing is, just like with a lot of real sports, there are some things that experienced players or people with a high understanding of the sport/game, which usually include casters, get excited about that other people might not. A good caster doesn't just get excited but takes time to explain why something is exciting.
Edit: I love Star Craft 2 and Tastetosis
I know this isnt the right crowd for this but John Madden is a legendary football coach..hes a great commentator as well but its kind of like saying Shigeru Myiamoto is a legendary spokesperson for Nintendo..yeah he is that but he has some other talents that kind of overshadow his PR ability
thanks for the knowledge. imo it's better we're all exposed to knowledge from different fields anyways, as it helps us to be more well-rounded as individuals.
That's how I feel as well...I am and always will b god awful at fighters and havent played one since MvC3..but I know a lot about the technical side of playing them at a high level purely bc of this channel..its knowledge I'll never use but I like it😁
Indy Lockheart keep trying, maybe crazy anime/comic tag games aren’t your jam, maybe your better 1 v 1? Unfortunately my internet is cursed forever
The return of the king!
Heck yeah boiii!
funny thing is i wrote that while looking for micheal jackson
YES
Whenever I hear “commentator”
My mind instantly goes,
“That ain’t falco, that ain’t falco...”
“OHHH OHHHHHH OH OHHHHHHH OHHH, OHHHHHHHHH OHHHH”
“WHERE ARE YOU???”
“METEORS IN ASS”
"HAPPY FEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOMBO COMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"GET YO ASS WHOOPED"
WHERE U AT WHERE U AT
HAPPY FEET
Imagine making $400 million for coming up with "Let's get ready to rumble".
If only life was so easy for everyone lol
Dude, imagine if Tasty Steve trademarked "Make some noise"...
th-cam.com/video/WKYS1XzDRRc/w-d-xo.html
Scar: “TOPH!”
"DID YOU SEE THE READS!?"
I couldn't wait until this came out when you mentioned it on Majas's podcast, glad the wait is over
Gerald was too busy buying headphones from Majas and Esteban to make any videos homie
My life basically revolves around my wife & son and Core-A analysis videos at this point
A man of culture i see
i watched SO many hours of tastosis on GOMTV back during the early days of SC2. such good commentary and so many laughs. thanks for highlighting them!
love,
poopfeast420
Man thanks so much for making this Core-A. As someone who loves watching tournaments sometimes just to hear the commentators discussions I enjoyed seeing so much of the skill that goes into being a commentator. Also ty for including Starcraft content into your video, brings back the good old days of watching Day-9 and Artosis and just playing some classic wings of liberty.
Awwww. That last line on Starcraft :,)
Yay new video
I was remembering Incontrol today, he passed away exactly one year ago, it´s good to see one of my favorite channels on youtube still remembers him, we miss you Geoff, rest in peace
I tried casting at my uni's local smash scene the one time we streamed. It was a challenging experience. I quickly learned that true live commentary is not the same as "live commentary" in Let's Plays.
It was still fun though and I had a more experienced caster alongside me to play off of.
I can imagine that Let's Play commentary is more about improvising interesting conversations and using the game to support said conversations (e.g. doing something silly), whereas this kind of live commentary is much more rooted in serving the game and explaining whats happening while also providing insight as to why its happening. I'd be interested in hearing what you learned from your experience, though, as I am only speculating. :)
@@JacquesSnacques if you want to see the actual difference between lets play commentary and live commentary, just look at Courage's old commentary and recent commentary
@@JacquesSnacques definitely. And there is also a big difference between solo and co. I've done a fair bit of both. Personally I feel my best work is Crystal (which had co commentary for 5/42 episodes and was solo for the rest) and Majora's Mask which was on my friend's channel (full co).
Oh my god, seeing Anderson Cooper with the streamer cat ears nearly killed me.
Man i really love your videos since 2015 with the "What Makes A Fighting Game Worth Playing?" video
These kinds of videos have no right filling people with such strong emotions. It's been almost 2 years, yet this one still always makes me cry at the end. You're always spot on coordinating your music and narration. Critical hit, every time, amazing job as always.
I'm really glad you focused on StarCraft for this, it's such a joy to watch a well commentated game. Specially BroodWar, which I can barely stand playing but I love to watch.
It’s 3 AM, I was about to sleep, and then this was uploaded
Change of plans I guess
Same fam
Good to have you back!
I absolutely love that moment in Mobas, when a team fight is brewing and the announcers start speaking faster and faster.
My heart stopped the moment this cued in my recomended box!!!
Im so excited about this!!!
5:51 gave me vibes similar to Ender's game. 12:38 tongue twister.
I am a speedrunner for Gravity Rush Remastered. I've done a few runs at events where I need to do commentary and play. What I struggle with the most in commentary is the fact that there are maybe 10 people in the entire world who are capable of running the game at the level I do, and there is an insane amount of tech that is difficult to execute, and not obvious when watched. I feel like each run I need to spend so much time explaining tech and so much happens so fast it is hard to cover everything in the time it happens. I hope that one day the game will become large enough that the explanations won't be necessary, but I doubt that will ever happen.
Damn, that picture of total biscuit hit me hard. RIP, man.
And... there goes another video that I'll watch 20 times
10:46 someone pass me that book lol
need bobs frames 😂
A more recent death, but the death of Kixstar for Siege was similar as kixstar was the one who made commentating become actually good in Siege, therefore adding to the experience.
Just watched the first episode of Sajam's podcast where you mentioned researching this video. So cool to see it a day later
As a french person who watched Pomf & Thud back in the days, i can assure you that all you need to commentate is to have played the game and loved it.
They were f*cking awesome
Obviously i paid for their pack in Starcraft 2, and that may be the only DLC i bought in Sc2
... They were Master ... How can you say "all you need ... to have played the game". It's litterally knowledge and passion.
Three seconds of Melee.
More than enough time to take a stock.
Fantasy Strike will be the Dark Souls of FGC commentators
I already saw a 10 SECOND TRIPLE PERFECT WIN
Love you core a! I always put you guy’s on repeat on my playlist, I’ve gotten so far in fighting games because of you guys too!
We all love your videos soooo much, I still relisten to them all when I'm at work.
I'm a little disappointed that there's not a single mention of Yipes in this video, but I get it lol
I agree with this statement
Yeah, Yipes would have been a more iconic example of the more casual side, but they did put Aris in there.
In VF we call, "Dick Jabs" by the actual input since it's a widely used move with important purposes. That being, 2P. We'll say, elbow for all 14F mids even if visually they aren't an elbow. Sometimes switching to just mid.
There was a Mortal Kombat 9 match where a player got juggled against the wall and Aris said sth like "Oh no, he has to take that damage straight up the bung-hole" that awkward silence afterwards was amazing. loved the guy ever since
Great stuff as always. I barely know about the SC2 scene but those interviews with the casters made me feel like a part of it.
I had an accidental muscle twitch that clicked this notification before I even read. Im glad I did
autonomic nervous system > brain
@@AuntBibby muscle memory ftw
_TastySteve singing the Tekken7 EDM is peak casting._
I love when the commentary on a sick play is also remember and is iconic like in the coldzera jumping awp
Commentary also defines historical moments in games. I can't perform the Wombo Combo, but I know the call by heart.
man this absolutely drives home how esport is so much more fundamentally community driven compared to a lot of sports. absolutely love it.
man i wanna do more commentary i love that shit tbh
A Core - A upload??
A CORE - A UPLOAD OMFG THANK YOU. I CANT WAIT TO REWATCH THIS SHIT FOR LIKE 2 MONTHS STRAIGHT
The analysis series has become one of my favorites on TH-cam because it emphasizes both passion and research. There's a great deal of history to these videos that makes each one feel like a very in-depth discussion of storied concepts. That's rather impressive, given the medium and genre being discussed are relatively young.
Already knew you'd have my mans Tasteless and Arty McTosis
Didn't expect to see my boi Atlus in this, but I guess Core is in Korea so makes sense
Its almost as if Core-a, is short hand for Korea with its emphasis on the Korean scene and players
Goddamn I love this channel. Please make a full length documentary at some point. I've waited months for videos and never been disappointed, I'll wait a hundred years for that
Thanks for this Channel! Always a pleasure to watch!
Tastosis my all time favorite casters. They're just perfect. Also yipes, I miss that guy.
OH OH OH EY EY EY lol love that dude
I'll just say this now: frame-perfect combos are insane. I know what they are, I can't execute them because of the difficulty.
I usually go for easy combos: input leeway, no more than three buttons, anything I can get out with 90% or greater confidence.
Usually, if you can land an easy combo twice, you'll do more damage than those frame-perfect insanities, just not as spectacular.
Fighting games aren't my jam ... I'm okay, but okay isn't nowhere near good enough these days to win.
Fantasy Strike
You can do it
5:21 the legendary donation from Jenna Tools comes to mind
Legitimately excited every time you post a video! Thanks!
Never have I clicked on a video faster.
“Mew2King, one of the older Lil’ Pump mains in recent times” “Ohh, He activates the Gucci time. And that’s the set!!!”
How long until you decode that, Analyst?!
Can’t say this enough but Core-A you’re seriously a top tier content creator and it’s always a delight watching your videos. Thanks so much
I don't know a thing about star craft so it was interesting to see someone like you talk about it.
Keep making good shit Gerald :)
It's less about being good at the game, and more about being knowledgeable
You could have the execution skills of a coma patient and it wouldn't matter, because you're not the one playing the game
I am a simple man: I see Core-A analysis, I click like.
All who host and record or broadcast video game competitions really need to release two versions of each match:
-One with live commentary if provided; and
-One without the live commentary track, but with all the in-game music and sounds.
There’s no excuse not to allow this aesthetic choice for the consumers.
Glad you plugged the Twitch channel! Looking forward to the next stream I can jump on live!
No Wombo Combo? ;(
I understand if it was to avoid blasting everyone's ears, the language, and/or the controversy surrounding a commentator in the video, but for me, it is the most memorable commentary moment. (Right above Coney accidentally catching a tie that made him look like ryu).
Gaming
Gaming
Gaming
Thank you for all the content you give us, man!
I didn't know you stream so I will be there next time no doubt!
The only channel I'll immediately stop doing what im doing to watch. Thank you for the high quality analysis as always Core A! Never change!
LET'S GOOOOOO
Rule of thumb:
Anything you’re doing when a new Core A Gaming video is uploaded is instantly less interesting.
Brilliant video! Astounding quality! Keep them coming!
Thank God you're alive
*shows wiki page for edgeguarding*
Core A: some terms are simple enough to be self explanatory over time
*plays a clip of ledge hogging*
Well, ledge hogging is just a specific kind of edge guard, so its still accurate :P
The clip was of Mang0 ledge hogging twice and nothing else. He was clearly trying to emphasize that specific technique.