I’m a psychiatrist. My analysis is as follows: No ASD, definitly no ADHD, no OCD, no BPD, perhaps a degree of ODD, but absolutely and 100% GOAT - Greatest of all times!
@@BachTheAnimatedSeries On the contrary😀 I think your reflexions over Bach and what we do know about his life and the times in which he lived, are reasonable and balanced! Looking forward to watching more from your channel👏
I had been wondering about this for a while. You have convinced me: the answer has to be no. Though it is very tempting, as a neurodiverse person myself (ADD), to see a kindred spirit in Bach's uncanny ability to isolate patterns, flip them around like Tetris pieces and nearly exhaust every possible permutation of the seed material in a series of increasingly complex variations. His music definitely *resonates* with us weirdos.
Fact: Negotiating his contract with the Leipzig city council, Bach made a deal to receive at least two 10 litre barrels (4 gallons) of beer per month for free. That's all I need to know about my boy Johann!🍺🍺🍺👍
Autism or no autism, Bach lead an extraordinary life, taking on and succeeding at every challenge thrown his way. Like any human he could become irritable and even enraged at times. But such instances are easily eclipsed by his dedication and Herculean accomplishments in the art of music and his care for the boys at St. Thomas’ Academy.
While I agree that Bach may have not had autism, he could’ve had some other disorder. Considering his tragic childhood and tragic circumstances in his adult life, he could’ve developed something from that.
@@jacqueslapidieux3182 Thank you very much for your wonderful comments! It's a difficult topic and, in all honesty, it hurts me when I read how lightly people are talking about Bach's so-called "autism" when there's no evidence at all. I'm glad that you found my video beautiful and sensitive as I'm having difficulties containing my emotions. Thank you once more. 😊
Apparently, JS Bach was an ordinary man with the usual faults just like most other men of his time, he had anger management issues and made notes in his Bible near verses that talked about anger, some people of his time found him to be a great conversationalist, he would have been a great person to hang out with.
Being a neighbor on “the spectrum,” terms made up by outsiders, “not in the neighborhood“ beg to be revised by the residents. ASD is ASG, ADHD is ADHG. “G” is gift.
As someone with ASD I completely agree. It's like saying would historical figures vote Tory or Labour. I clicked on your video, expecting to find a conclusion saying Yes*
Autism comes in many forms, and there are those who are incredibly precise and socially competent. Bach did his best to navigate church and town politics but it seems they, though were a necessity to navigate, were however not Bach's primary goal. His long time away from employers, his breaking of social contracts in pursuit of betterment all sound like someone who may have have had a very high functioning form of Autism.
To add to this, Autistic people can be immensely good hosts, incredibly selfless and generous, often have very strict and powerful moral codes, can be very funny and charismatic as well. Autism is a huge range of personality with similar struggles deep within, but this is not to say Bach is Autistic.
Well, I beg to differ. Autism is a very specific neurological disorder and autistic people simply cope in different ways. Bach never broke social contacts though, very much on the contrary, he was a socially very busy man. Whatever the truth, it would be impossible to say about any historical figure whether they were autistic as there simply isn't enough data for a proper diagnosis.
@@BachTheAnimatedSeries He is referring to the time when Bach asked for 4 weeks of leave and was not seen again for 4 months, having decided to hike 400 km to Lübeck so he could take a masterclass with Johann Adam Reincken and hear Dieterich Buxtehude play. Going AWOL for such a long time is definitely a breach of social norms. Bach was also jailed for a month in 1717, for quitting his job at the court of Weimar, which normally would have required him to *ask for permission* to relinquish his duties. He clearly was stubborn, if nothing else.
It's very hard to draw any conclusion about this topic. Assuming Bach did or did not react to an happening like an autistic person is a very biased way of analyse. Autism comes in many forms. If this label is meaningful to depict how an individual would function, to a certain degree, variety in the psychological field is still very vast and hard to apprehend. Anyway, thank you for your video.
Autism is a much narrower disorder than generally assumed. It's a very specific neurological disorder which every autistic person tries to compensate for in different ways. My only goal with this video is to show that it's impossible to know about any historical figure whether they were autistic or not as we don't have any adequate psychological and neurological profile. What is certain though is that any autistic person would've gone mad in Bach's household. 😊
@@BachTheAnimatedSeries The goal of your video is mainly about sharing your personal opinion about this topic and advocating for a "no" as the conclusion of the video and as the last sentence in your previous reply both emphasize it. Autistic traits can be compensated by many psychological variables and innate potential factors. Bach was not a common man as much as he would not have been a common autistic. In other words, Bach could be diagnosed with a form of autism in today's world and that wouldn't be contradictory with the life he led, contrary to what the video implies.
Well, he was obviously a musical genius but he was certainly also good at math and classical languages. But we have no idea if this knowledge was concentrated in "isolated peaks", which would be typical of autism, or if he had a much broader knowledge.
While I do agree that we don't have enough information to conclude that Bach had Autism or not, The things you say Bach as having done are no indicators of Autism at all Autism doesn't mean that the person suddenly doesn't have communication skills or that they can't be kind the traits of autism are so vague you can't possibly conclude someone has them from things like grumpiness or communcation skills like him teaching the Kids that much could be a trait of autism just as much it could be the opposite
@@Cephlapodninja Autistic people can be very good at communicating, but they do this by "planning" every possible conversation in advance. But when you say something to autistic people that they hadn't foreseen, they will not be able to respond. Autistic people don't understand words as such and have to translate everything you say to them into images or concepts. That's why they always take everything literally. Worse still, when they want to express themselves they have to translate these images into words they don't really understand. That's why they often express themselves in a weird way, e.g. saying: "I'm burning" instead of: "I'm warm" or why they often don't talk at all. When you have to motivate children to excel during a musical performance, you've got to have exceptional conversational skills, motivational skills and empathy, things autistic people are lacking. I am a teacher by the way, English and Astronomy, but my lessons are always very well structured in advance and I have prepared for any possible questions. When the children don't behave the way I expected or even challenge my authority, I usually fail.
I’m a psychiatrist. My analysis is as follows: No ASD, definitly no ADHD, no OCD, no BPD, perhaps a degree of ODD, but absolutely and 100% GOAT - Greatest of all times!
@@mettern8605 Oh dear, a psychiatrist... I hope that you consider my amateur analysis not totally unworthy of being shown to the public. 😊
@@BachTheAnimatedSeries On the contrary😀 I think your reflexions over Bach and what we do know about his life and the times in which he lived, are reasonable and balanced! Looking forward to watching more from your channel👏
@@mettern8605 Thank you very much. Your words mean a lot to me. 😊
this has to be one of the best comments I've ever seen on this platform
Thank you doctor. Very cool.
I had been wondering about this for a while. You have convinced me: the answer has to be no. Though it is very tempting, as a neurodiverse person myself (ADD), to see a kindred spirit in Bach's uncanny ability to isolate patterns, flip them around like Tetris pieces and nearly exhaust every possible permutation of the seed material in a series of increasingly complex variations. His music definitely *resonates* with us weirdos.
It certainly does. 😊 Though the "no" is simply my personal opinion. In reality we have no way of knowing...
Bach had no autism, he had artism
@@nejzk2026 Hahaha! Well said! 😊
Brandensperg Concertos
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Fact: Negotiating his contract with the Leipzig city council, Bach made a deal to receive at least two 10 litre barrels (4 gallons) of beer per month for free.
That's all I need to know about my boy Johann!🍺🍺🍺👍
🤣🤣🤣 Yes, he did enjoy the good life. 😁
Autism or no autism, Bach lead an extraordinary life, taking on and succeeding at every challenge thrown his way. Like any human he could become irritable and even enraged at times. But such instances are easily eclipsed by his dedication and Herculean accomplishments in the art of music and his care for the boys at St. Thomas’ Academy.
I couldn't have said it better. 😊
While I agree that Bach may have not had autism, he could’ve had some other disorder. Considering his tragic childhood and tragic circumstances in his adult life, he could’ve developed something from that.
Yes,you're right. His life was mostly a long tragedy. I simply cannot imagine he didn't have any deep scars. 😥
Thank you for allowing us a window into your world via the prism of Bach of course. Beautifully and sensitively done!
@@jacqueslapidieux3182 Thank you very much for your wonderful comments! It's a difficult topic and, in all honesty, it hurts me when I read how lightly people are talking about Bach's so-called "autism" when there's no evidence at all. I'm glad that you found my video beautiful and sensitive as I'm having difficulties containing my emotions. Thank you once more. 😊
Apparently, JS Bach was an ordinary man with the usual faults just like most other men of his time, he had anger management issues and made notes in his Bible near verses that talked about anger, some people of his time found him to be a great conversationalist, he would have been a great person to hang out with.
He must have been a popular host for a reason. 😊
Being a neighbor on “the spectrum,” terms made up by outsiders, “not in the neighborhood“ beg to be revised by the residents. ASD is ASG, ADHD is ADHG. “G” is gift.
@@curberybible3823 I couldn't agree more. 😊
As someone with ASD I completely agree. It's like saying would historical figures vote Tory or Labour.
I clicked on your video, expecting to find a conclusion saying Yes*
Thank you for your kind words. The "no" is my personal opinion, but my actual conclusion is that we have no way of knowing. 😊
Autism comes in many forms, and there are those who are incredibly precise and socially competent. Bach did his best to navigate church and town politics but it seems they, though were a necessity to navigate, were however not Bach's primary goal.
His long time away from employers, his breaking of social contracts in pursuit of betterment all sound like someone who may have have had a very high functioning form of Autism.
To add to this, Autistic people can be immensely good hosts, incredibly selfless and generous, often have very strict and powerful moral codes, can be very funny and charismatic as well.
Autism is a huge range of personality with similar struggles deep within, but this is not to say Bach is Autistic.
Well, I beg to differ. Autism is a very specific neurological disorder and autistic people simply cope in different ways. Bach never broke social contacts though, very much on the contrary, he was a socially very busy man. Whatever the truth, it would be impossible to say about any historical figure whether they were autistic as there simply isn't enough data for a proper diagnosis.
@@BachTheAnimatedSeries He is referring to the time when Bach asked for 4 weeks of leave and was not seen again for 4 months, having decided to hike 400 km to Lübeck so he could take a masterclass with Johann Adam Reincken and hear Dieterich Buxtehude play. Going AWOL for such a long time is definitely a breach of social norms. Bach was also jailed for a month in 1717, for quitting his job at the court of Weimar, which normally would have required him to *ask for permission* to relinquish his duties. He clearly was stubborn, if nothing else.
Definitely not Bach but DEFINITELY Mozart
How would you know without detailed psychological and neurological tests?
@ I don’t, that’s just my head canon lol
It's very hard to draw any conclusion about this topic.
Assuming Bach did or did not react to an happening like an autistic person is a very biased way of analyse.
Autism comes in many forms. If this label is meaningful to depict how an individual would function, to a certain degree, variety in the psychological field is still very vast and hard to apprehend.
Anyway, thank you for your video.
Autism is a much narrower disorder than generally assumed. It's a very specific neurological disorder which every autistic person tries to compensate for in different ways. My only goal with this video is to show that it's impossible to know about any historical figure whether they were autistic or not as we don't have any adequate psychological and neurological profile. What is certain though is that any autistic person would've gone mad in Bach's household. 😊
@@BachTheAnimatedSeries The goal of your video is mainly about sharing your personal opinion about this topic and advocating for a "no" as the conclusion of the video and as the last sentence in your previous reply both emphasize it.
Autistic traits can be compensated by many psychological variables and innate potential factors.
Bach was not a common man as much as he would not have been a common autistic.
In other words, Bach could be diagnosed with a form of autism in today's world and that wouldn't be contradictory with the life he led, contrary to what the video implies.
Love your voice interpretation. If Bach had autism, he couldn't manage his career and deal with different kind of trouble people in church.
@@abchan1294Yes, he would have collapsed at some point. Personally I believe he was just too much ahead of his time.
He could have being so precise is part of it 😀
Who knows... 🤣
No!!! Johann Sebastian Bach was a genius with God Posession.
Thank you! 😊
Well he may have had some degree if autism, because he displayed savantism, did he not?
Well, he was obviously a musical genius but he was certainly also good at math and classical languages. But we have no idea if this knowledge was concentrated in "isolated peaks", which would be typical of autism, or if he had a much broader knowledge.
i also have autism
It's nice to meet you, brother. 😊
I am a boy with a mild form and autism: Asperger syndrome
@@rl-181 Cool! Then we're brothers! 😊
@BachTheAnimatedSeries 😍
While I do agree that we don't have enough information to conclude that Bach had Autism or not,
The things you say Bach as having done are no indicators of Autism at all Autism doesn't mean that the person suddenly doesn't have communication skills or that they can't be kind the traits of autism are so vague you can't possibly conclude someone has them from things like grumpiness or communcation skills like him teaching the Kids that much could be a trait of autism just as much it could be the opposite
@@Cephlapodninja Autistic people can be very good at communicating, but they do this by "planning" every possible conversation in advance. But when you say something to autistic people that they hadn't foreseen, they will not be able to respond. Autistic people don't understand words as such and have to translate everything you say to them into images or concepts. That's why they always take everything literally. Worse still, when they want to express themselves they have to translate these images into words they don't really understand. That's why they often express themselves in a weird way, e.g. saying: "I'm burning" instead of: "I'm warm" or why they often don't talk at all. When you have to motivate children to excel during a musical performance, you've got to have exceptional conversational skills, motivational skills and empathy, things autistic people are lacking. I am a teacher by the way, English and Astronomy, but my lessons are always very well structured in advance and I have prepared for any possible questions. When the children don't behave the way I expected or even challenge my authority, I usually fail.
I feel like to be a truly great artist you have to have some type of “autism”…
Hahaha! Well, maybe... 😅
Don't you mean, Was Bach autistic?
Personally I don't believe that he was, but the bottom line is that we have absolutely no way of knowing.
Idiocy
My thoughts exactly.
Did Bach have autism? No.
Also my conclusion. 😊
bach has autism hell yeah he's just like me
We're all brothers and sisters. 😊