@@ytr3488 then why do you bother watching a vid w an attorney and feel compelled to reply to someone's comment‽ Everything is a lie and a conspiracy, you should get a soapbox and stand on the corner warning the world through a bullhorn🤣
Without Shannon Gilbert, who is not considered part of this case, her chilling 911 call led to all of this. She died in horrible fashion but she is the one that started the search and capture of a serial killer. RIP Shannon.
Let's see what happens. This is just the beginning of this investigation. He could be involved in Shannan Gilbert case. However, in my opinion there are more than two people involved in her case. Her chilling 911 call is very revealing. I hope her case is investigated from the beginning starting with the client and the driver and justice is finally served for this poor girl and the other victims. The new team of investigators is doing a great job.
It’s interesting to hear police say Heuerman might not be connected to the other 7 victims found along the beach. If the Gilbert case is unrelated and the other 7 murders are unrelated it begs the question, what the hell is going on in that area of LI? How many murderers are there concentrated in a relatively small area?
He didn’t. I believe that because I don’t think this guy did it. Lots of people I’m talking to here on Long Island agree. If you think about the case it doesn’t make sense.
What? So you think Shannon who was high ran away from one guys house in the middle of the night and walked miles away to Rex’s house and he killed her then he drove her back out there and he stuck her in the muck and made it look like she drowned?
If you’ve seen anything on Shannon’s case specifically i think Dr. Hackett had something to do with her murder. He called her mother when she was missing and told her she stayed at his house “a home for wayward girls” (which he later denied but phone records proved it)and i believe she was drugged. Ive been wondering if theres a connection between Hackett and Rex. Thats way too many bodies in one spot to not be connected in some way in my opinion.
He was probably an architect for beach chairs design. The rest of the time, he ate, killed, ate again, killed and killed and ate and killed. Simply......SICK.
See: This family was being watched through their windows. That's exactly why I make sure the inside of my house is not visible from outside. I have my light curtains on during the day, to let the light in while the inside of my house cannot be seen. And I make sure I pull my drapes shut when I am turning the lights on inside in the evening.
This man has stood w his clients of the L.I.S.K 's victims. I've always respected him for that. What a shame he & his family had been put through such horrid things. The police supposedly have some "burner" phone(s) I hope they nail that demon for every single possible they can!
What’s even scarier to me is I think I hear Rex as the 3 rd person on the Shannon Gilbert 911 call. 4:51… to be specific. From like 4:15 - 4:50 you hear Joe Brewer grabbing her and bringing her towards a door. At 4:50 the door opens. Upon entering the room you hear a 3rd person say “let me fix it, let me fix that” and you can hear the Joe Brewer is walking her out of the room this 3rd person was in. She originally booked an hour. And then it was extended to 4 hours. I’m thinking what happened is a 3rd person showed up. And this wasn’t expected for Shannon. This 3rd person spooked her and caused her to call 911… if you got the time go find it
Coming back to the Shannon Gilbert 911 call. trying to do a little bit of a transcription. 4:15 - Brewer "Come Here I wanna show you something..." This is when he was saying everybody let's go outside. but then he is telling her he wants to show her something... at 4:22 she says "Who is this?" "Who is this?" I believe that Brewer was a former client and at least knew Brewer... She also knows Mike as her driver... there is a 3rd person there... 4:27 "Why do you call me by name? This 3rd person hasn't spoken on the 911 call yet, but this might have been the trigger warning for her for some reason... or at least something about this 3rd person creeped her out... 4:35 "C'mon give me your hand give me your hand" I believe this is Joseph Brewer still. 4:39 "No stop it please... no... *Also some sort of scuffle... signs she is being grabbed up. 4:41- "What are you doing what are you doing?" 4:50 you hear a door open. at 4:51 I believe I hear the 3rd person... "He says let me fix it, let me fix that" What follows I believe is her being dragged through the room this 3rd person was in and walked out of the house... She starts getting really frantic and screaming and raising her voice... @ 4:51 I think that 3rd person's voice sounded very similar to Rex's. I know that to people outside of NYC/LI the Long Island accent sounds similar... but I can hear a difference ... The video with the French guy was taken in as evidence I believe. The video has been switched to private. So it has been difficult for me to find his voice again... However, I think at some point during that video he says the word "Fix", I believe this is where I found the similarity between the 2 voices... I'm not even sure if he says the word fix really... but the way he talks is so similar. "Let me fix it, let me fix that" is such a weird way to talk. What caused that switch to change verbiage. There is something similar to me between the way Rex sounds and talks in that French interview and the way this 3rd person says "Let me fix it, Let me fix that." I just don't know how to put it into words on how I find it similar.
Um how long ago and how frequent? Don't hesitate to let your local police know. Stay safe ladies. It's a scary world out there. I'm so grateful for a Mom who taught me how to be really smart but not over paranoid about this stuff.
There are too many vengeful people in this world and it begins with neighbour bullying. The minute people stand their ground, their lives turn into a nightmare
Yeah it’s pretty scary to have enemy neighbours. Many of us have learned that. And it’s surely a big part of why we all keep to ourselves now. It’s unfortunate and sad. Also, if we were all friendlier these psychos would possibly find it harder to get away with what they do.
John Ray needs to hire personal security, he is being stalked and that is very very scary. To get to the point where they are literally outside his house watching him says they have plans to do something about it...
I agree. This family needs to be careful. Depending on his family's circumstances, I would actually consider moving, too. And I would cover my tracks while doing so.
Wow. That must have been terrifying. Such poetic justice, as Dr. Gary Brucato intelligently puts it. Man who treated his victims like trash, got caught through pizza from the trash. Poetic Justice. Praying for all the families involved. Take it one day at a time. Justice will prevail🙏🏽🕊️
Terrifying! I pray for this man and his family to be safe. I felt panick and anxiety, hearing this story. This man and his family are so brave to speak out, hopefully Rex is the same caller and will meet justice. What a sick , creepy, experience to go through.
I mean... no... we don't have any reason to think that when there are multiple serial killers claiming far over a 100 kills. Even many of the less infamous serial killers have killed more than 10
It is a group of crooked Suffolk county ex cops. They had been shaking down Heuermann for years. They knew he was going to be arrested and that he was under surveillance, but they wanted to stir the pot.
He may have gotten the daughter's info from social media bc many people post so much stuff prolifically, that it would be easy to pretend to be watching them.
Makes me think heuermann did not make the call. More like someone like a cop or ex cop etc. This whole story i think goes deeper because initially the chief of police at the time pretty much hindered the investigation. That Shannon Gilberts murder was covered up imo. Someone in a high position was involved.
@@lamplight88h59 There are many serial killers that kill for years. Many times they choose women who will not be missed. Another thing they may do is start and stop.
Shannon Gilbert should have a memorial dedicated to her for being the hero although in death, led to the beginning of victims being found, loved ones not looking anymore, and finally the arrest of the psycho that took their lives. Blessings to ones gone gone and families.
God, how terrifying. If it was Heuermann, how did he get the info on John Ray's daughter in San Diego, CA? And the pizza deliveries? Were they from Heuermann, too? Or was it a prank call?
During the initial investigation years ago Suffolk county cops identified Heuermann and decided to shake him down instead of arresting him. The people who called the lawyer were former Suffolk cops, not Heuermann.
@@lobsters12111 Have you really never ordered a pizza and paid with cash on delivery? That's actually mind blowing, but that's how we've done it 90% of the time since before the 2020's
Given that police have said Heuermann had called victim's families, it certainly seems likely it was him calling this lawyer, his wife, and his office. The pizza place saying a woman made the order suggest investigators should not be assuming Mrs. Heuermann had no role. If it was her, why would she help him do such a thing? Partner in crime? In the Bernardo case in Canada investigators made a deal with his wife (Carla Homolka) only to later discover her intimate involvement with the kidnappings, rapes, and murders. Of course the pizza ordering could have been some other female associate of Heuermann, like a hooker he put up to making a prank order?
A female has been brought up by way too many witnesses...way too many times now. And the wifes hairs was on 2 or 3 of the victims. It's only sensible to investigate her, and the adult daughter. LE made them leave their home, no clothes, no electronics or PC's-tablets, etc. I wonder why victims advocates aren't helping the family?
"Just one last question, Do you like pineapples and ham?" "The pizza?" "Yes, is that a something you'd order normally?" "It's not something I'd to admit on air...but yes." "So you ate the pizza?" "I mean, I shared it. I can't eat 3 pizzas" "That is frightening" *alternate universe interview ending
It’s almost impossible to follow what this lawyer is saying. Idk if he was nervous or what but you would think that a lawyer could speak concisely and accurately in full sentences.
This is frightening to hear how Pizzas are connected to this case, this Rex Psycho seems to be a Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde character. Once the sun goes down the monster sick puppy appears. If there's Pizzas involved it's definitely this serial killer
Wow! If this guy Rex is indeed responsible for Shannan’s murder, it will mean that he had accomplices that assisted him with his killings. (Shannan’s driver) 😮 man this story is getting weirder and weirder everyday
The conclusion you’re drawing here isn’t logical. Michael Pak had no motive to kill Shannan, his employer, and he was ruled out in all these killings long ago. I’m not certain yet where Rex’s home is in relation to the homes Shannan was at the night she disappeared. But if Rex’s was close to where Shannan went missing, her screams might have gotten his attention & she became a victim of opportunity for Rex. Shannan was buried essentially in that strange doctor’s backyard - the one who called Shannan’s mom and said he treated her at his “home for wayward girls” then lied about making those calls before finally admitting to them. He’s sus af. Then there’s the corrupt and violently kinky (and also just violent) former chief of police, who blocked the FBI’s efforts to assist on this case. Also sus af. And these two men could have working with Rex or separately from him. At least 2 of the victims don’t fit the profile of the others and the MO of the killer was different than the person who killed the Gilgo Four.
So a woman ordered the Dominoes pizza. I still think they need to look into his wife. Not that she killed anyone, but I do believe she did everything he told her to do without asking, maybe due to depression or abuse, including sending a pizza. I’m sure Rex was like “call and order a pizza for my friend “ from one of his burner phones and she did just that without asking. Who else would waste their time and money to mess with this attorney? He’s not known for many other controversial cases.
John Ray is the man. Not only does he dress like a suave parrot, but he has been going STRONG for these victims and families since the beginning. He is amazing. Not surprised he had these disturbing taunting calls. He has never backed away from his fight for justice and whoever LISK is (lookin like you Rex, buddyyyy) probably is very aware of him and considers him a thorn in his side. Not to mention, "taunting" the victims and their families- esp by phone- is a favorite past time of LISK. I hope Mr. Ray and his family will find peace and safety - hopefully that's already happened since now atleast the ogre under the bridge is behind bars. I 100% think he's guilty- of HOW MANY is the question.
I learned the 1st year of having internet how many demented people are put there. I was about 24 and a guy on a sports forum thought i was too harsh on the teams gm. So he would try say creepy things to get me to stop till he flat out sent me my adress and told me he was gona kill everyone in my family. Ever since then i dobt know how everyone whose on social media deals with peoole threatening to kill them? They just ignore it? Or does it not happen often?
These cases have generated so much interest in the last decade. There are plenty of sick people who would try to insert themselves into a case like this.
The name of the lawyer for the victims is public knowledge. It's likely that the accused Rex Heuermann obtained more details about the lawyer's family from social media accounts. Once he figured out where his daughter was, he went to the west coast (since he also has a home/s there) and surveilled her. He most likely placed the pizza orders from the west coast using a burner phone. Moral of the story: Not to reveal your details (personally identifiable information, family members & how you are related to them, travel plans) on social media.
They mentioned something about the phone # being theirs if I recall, so the killer or his accomplices are technically proficient enough to spoof the phone number to make it appear as though the lawyer ordered it. Then again, pizza places often ask what phone number to put the pizza under too so he might have just told them.
I got chills listening to that gentleman's story, I am so happy that he and his family are safe.
You believe everything you see and read. Gotcha. An attorney would never lie.
@@ytr3488 and people like you believe nothing you see and read :)
@@ytr3488 then why do you bother watching a vid w an attorney and feel compelled to reply to someone's comment‽ Everything is a lie and a conspiracy, you should get a soapbox and stand on the corner warning the world through a bullhorn🤣
Me too!
I would ditch that guy first thing, if he was my attorney
Without Shannon Gilbert, who is not considered part of this case, her chilling 911 call led to all of this. She died in horrible fashion but she is the one that started the search and capture of a serial killer. RIP Shannon.
Wrong she is part of this case!
@@livingintheforest3963 Huermann is not charged with Gilbert’s death and the police don’t consider her death a murder. So you are incorrect.
Let's see what happens. This is just the beginning of this investigation. He could be involved in Shannan Gilbert case. However, in my opinion there are more than two people involved in her case. Her chilling 911 call is very revealing. I hope her case is investigated from the beginning starting with the client and the driver and justice is finally served for this poor girl and the other victims. The new team of investigators is doing a great job.
I really hope something conclusive and definitive can come to light for her.
It’s interesting to hear police say Heuerman might not be connected to the other 7 victims found along the beach. If the Gilbert case is unrelated and the other 7 murders are unrelated it begs the question, what the hell is going on in that area of LI? How many murderers are there concentrated in a relatively small area?
This Atty took on this case for Shannon Gilbert’s mother 10 yrs ago, and never charged her a dime. He’s a good man
He’s also defending Shannon’s sister Sara who is schizophrenic and stabbed her mother to death.
Isn’t he the one that did that stupid conference just to try and implicate the daughter when LE have said family has nothing to do w it?
Remember ...Rex had taunted family of one of the victims.So its very possible , that Rex made the calls to this lawyer.Very scary.
Yes and if he’s the guy also called a friend of another victim and told her that her friend was ok and in a whorehouse in queens.
These psychopaths just can’t hold their self back they have to call and taunt people
It may be the phone calls that seal his fate as far as evidences goes, so in a way his taunting helped police nab him.
It's the cherry on top for him.
@@freddymars2014 It will be if the police find out that Rex Heuermann was the one who made the calls to John Ray and his wife.
It's for Narcissistic supply. Validation. Attention is attention.
Did BTK not do that!
No one can convince me this man had nothing to do with Shannon case. I hope they all get justice.
Dr Hackett and Joseph Brewer killed Shannon. Hackett had Shannon's mom's number he murdered her
Agree....
He didn’t. I believe that because I don’t think this guy did it. Lots of people I’m talking to here on Long Island agree. If you think about the case it doesn’t make sense.
What? So you think Shannon who was high ran away from one guys house in the middle of the night and walked miles away to Rex’s house and he killed her then he drove her back out there and he stuck her in the muck and made it look like she drowned?
If you’ve seen anything on Shannon’s case specifically i think Dr. Hackett had something to do with her murder. He called her mother when she was missing and told her she stayed at his house “a home for wayward girls” (which he later denied but phone records proved it)and i believe she was drugged. Ive been wondering if theres a connection between Hackett and Rex. Thats way too many bodies in one spot to not be connected in some way in my opinion.
Rex just seemed to have way too much time on his hands for an architect.
He was in his 40’s.
@@bloom4807 Meaning...?
He was probably an architect for beach chairs design. The rest of the time, he ate, killed, ate again, killed and killed and ate and killed. Simply......SICK.
It was his night stalker hobby.😢
@@alp3781right!👍
See: This family was being watched through their windows. That's exactly why I make sure the inside of my house is not visible from outside. I have my light curtains on during the day, to let the light in while the inside of my house cannot be seen. And I make sure I pull my drapes shut when I am turning the lights on inside in the evening.
I have watched faaaar too many horror films to not pull my blinds on as soon as it gets slightly dark😂😳
Right, I see neighbors who keep their curtains/blinds open with the lights on.
I told one, she didn't realize.
This man has stood w his clients of the L.I.S.K 's victims. I've always respected him for that. What a shame he & his family had been put through such horrid things. The police supposedly have some "burner" phone(s) I hope they nail that demon for every single possible they can!
he could have been ordering the pizza with a prostitute he was about to kill with her being unsuspecting... who knows how crazy it can get
Wow. And that is definitely a very plausible situation.
That's possible.🤔
What’s even scarier to me is I think I hear Rex as the 3 rd person on the Shannon Gilbert 911 call. 4:51… to be specific. From like 4:15 - 4:50 you hear Joe Brewer grabbing her and bringing her towards a door. At 4:50 the door opens. Upon entering the room you hear a 3rd person say “let me fix it, let me fix that” and you can hear the Joe Brewer is walking her out of the room this 3rd person was in. She originally booked an hour. And then it was extended to 4 hours. I’m thinking what happened is a 3rd person showed up. And this wasn’t expected for Shannon. This 3rd person spooked her and caused her to call 911… if you got the time go find it
Coming back to the Shannon Gilbert 911 call.
trying to do a little bit of a transcription.
4:15 - Brewer "Come Here I wanna show you something..." This is when he was saying everybody let's go outside. but then he is telling her he wants to show her something...
at 4:22 she says "Who is this?" "Who is this?" I believe that Brewer was a former client and at least knew Brewer... She also knows Mike as her driver... there is a 3rd person there...
4:27 "Why do you call me by name? This 3rd person hasn't spoken on the 911 call yet, but this might have been the trigger warning for her for some reason... or at least something about this 3rd person creeped her out...
4:35 "C'mon give me your hand give me your hand" I believe this is Joseph Brewer still.
4:39 "No stop it please... no... *Also some sort of scuffle... signs she is being grabbed up.
4:41- "What are you doing what are you doing?"
4:50 you hear a door open.
at 4:51 I believe I hear the 3rd person... "He says let me fix it, let me fix that" What follows I believe is her being dragged through the room this 3rd person was in and walked out of the house... She starts getting really frantic and screaming and raising her voice...
@ 4:51 I think that 3rd person's voice sounded very similar to Rex's. I know that to people outside of NYC/LI the Long Island accent sounds similar... but I can hear a difference ...
The video with the French guy was taken in as evidence I believe. The video has been switched to private. So it has been difficult for me to find his voice again... However, I think at some point during that video he says the word "Fix", I believe this is where I found the similarity between the 2 voices... I'm not even sure if he says the word fix really... but the way he talks is so similar. "Let me fix it, let me fix that" is such a weird way to talk.
What caused that switch to change verbiage. There is something similar to me between the way Rex sounds and talks in that French interview and the way this 3rd person says "Let me fix it, Let me fix that." I just don't know how to put it into words on how I find it similar.
That's what I just said too.
This lawyer's intuition is right. Rex Horrorman is a predator at play with his victims.
How absolutely frightening and unnerving to receive calls like this.
From a six foot six inch over 275 lbs sadistic monster.
I would have Walked outside and tuned him up....
@@harmankardon478 we would all like to think that but this guy played cagey. It makes one give pause to consider how vulnerable we are, really are.
@@mtaylor7307 im a total badass bro.
Absolutely terrifying 😳 😬
Dear god this is so creepy and I’ve experienced something very similar. These people are soooooooooooo sick in the head!!!!!!!
I have to it's horrifying.
Um how long ago and how frequent? Don't hesitate to let your local police know. Stay safe ladies. It's a scary world out there. I'm so grateful for a Mom who taught me how to be really smart but not over paranoid about this stuff.
So creepy. Omg.
Wow, that is beyond creepy.
The least Rex could have done was pay for the pizza. Not only is he a demented serial killer but he's a cheap ass.
An architect specializing in codes that lives in a dump.
😂 for real
Why would you leave a paper trail by paying for the pizza? Who wants to get caught on purpose?
... the question is why did and or was Dominos willing to do it and what was the lie about the phone number ???
Hope they find who called this lawyer and put them in jail. Horrific.
This is absolutely terrifying! I am glad this family is safe.
There are too many vengeful people in this world and it begins with neighbour bullying. The minute people stand their ground, their lives turn into a nightmare
If you've bad neighbours there's only one solution...move house .
Install cameras and lots of them if you have a crazy nighbor. Its a mirror in their face to see themselves and be careful
You have to stand up to a bully, otherwise you'll get plowed over.
Yeah it’s pretty scary to have enemy neighbours. Many of us have learned that. And it’s surely a big part of why we all keep to ourselves now. It’s unfortunate and sad. Also, if we were all friendlier these psychos would possibly find it harder to get away with what they do.
@@kv2723 I agree in many cases but when it’s your neighbourhood it can be risky.
John Ray needs to hire personal security, he is being stalked and that is very very scary. To get to the point where they are literally outside his house watching him says they have plans to do something about it...
I agree. This family needs to be careful. Depending on his family's circumstances, I would actually consider moving, too. And I would cover my tracks while doing so.
Eerie-,my heart goes out to that family
Wow. That must have been terrifying. Such poetic justice, as Dr. Gary Brucato intelligently puts it. Man who treated his victims like trash, got caught through pizza from the trash. Poetic Justice. Praying for all the families involved. Take it one day at a time. Justice will prevail🙏🏽🕊️
Yup that's a Narcissist psychopath playing games and it's horrifying.
That is straight out of a horror movie!!!
Rex gave himself away with the pizza. Orders him a pizza, then gets caught by the crust of a pizza. Rex? You are so messy. Lol
Or attorney lying just like John ray did wanting to implicate the daughter
Evil walks among us.
Prayers for peace ☮️ & healing ❤️🩹 for all of the families & friends. ♥️♥️♥️
Terrifying! I pray for this man and his family to be safe.
I felt panick and anxiety, hearing this story. This man and his family are so brave to speak out, hopefully Rex is the same caller and will meet justice.
What a sick , creepy, experience to go through.
oh that big ole ogre ain’t gonna do anything. he likes to attack 100 lbs 5ft girls
This may be the most prolific serial killer of our lifetime that we are witnessing. Reporting day by day makes me get the chills.
Not even close to the most prolific.
I mean... no... we don't have any reason to think that when there are multiple serial killers claiming far over a 100 kills. Even many of the less infamous serial killers have killed more than 10
Wth is even happening in this world? Loco
End times. Get rightbwith Jesus before its too late. Read the new testament straight through.
That is very frightening. I do hope Mr Ray and his family are ok,awful for them all. I hope they can identify the voices on the call.
If I were him, I would’ve called the police? That’s so scary he was watching their 18 year old daughter too
He did? Its only a 6 min long vid
It is a group of crooked Suffolk county ex cops. They had been shaking down Heuermann for years. They knew he was going to be arrested and that he was under surveillance, but they wanted to stir the pot.
He may have gotten the daughter's info from social media bc many people post so much stuff prolifically, that it would be easy to pretend to be watching them.
He did contact the police
Makes me think heuermann did not make the call. More like someone like a cop or ex cop etc. This whole story i think goes deeper because initially the chief of police at the time pretty much hindered the investigation. That Shannon Gilberts murder was covered up imo. Someone in a high position was involved.
I wonder if he answers the phone, "Yellow!"
Lmao!
This is why I don't answer my phone calls
I think he has been killing for years.
It definitely was a game to him. They all think they've outsmarted the system. Obviously, he did with his burner phone strategy.
Thing is though if he has been killing for years, how was he missed? I know serial killers are very clever, but this went on for such a long time.
@@lamplight88h59 There are many serial killers that kill for years. Many times they choose women who will not be missed. Another thing they may do is start and stop.
Shannon Gilbert should have a memorial dedicated to her for being the hero although in death, led to the beginning of victims being found, loved ones not looking anymore, and finally the arrest of the psycho that took their lives. Blessings to ones gone gone and families.
God, how terrifying. If it was Heuermann, how did he get the info on John Ray's daughter in San Diego, CA? And the pizza deliveries? Were they from Heuermann, too? Or was it a prank call?
T-Rex may have had some good connections.
During the initial investigation years ago Suffolk county cops identified Heuermann and decided to shake him down instead of arresting him. The people who called the lawyer were former Suffolk cops, not Heuermann.
That is to elaborate to be a prank call. This will explain why the guy had seven burner phones.
The fact that he is an architect he must know a lot of people in housing. Ver easy for him to know your house
Social media
That's so serious.
Surveillance like that? Wow
Hi Ashleigh, I'm glad I found you again. Thank you for the good video on your report.
N D from CT.
Definitely they must investigate his wife too..a woman ordering pizza? 🤔
Or a paid sex worker.
Am I the only one wondering how in the heck someone talked a pizza place into giving him a free pizza?
Customers can pay for a pizza to be delivered anywhere🤦🏼♀️lol
When my husband & I call for delivery, they ask how we want to pay. Cash or card. Many times we paid COD.
@@renee8813 he said the pizza wasn't paid for 🤦♂️
Yes, you are the only one wondering😂
@@lobsters12111 Have you really never ordered a pizza and paid with cash on delivery? That's actually mind blowing, but that's how we've done it 90% of the time since before the 2020's
Why don't they just check Rex's voice with the callers voice??
Given that police have said Heuermann had called victim's families, it certainly seems likely it was him calling this lawyer, his wife, and his office. The pizza place saying a woman made the order suggest investigators should not be assuming Mrs. Heuermann had no role. If it was her, why would she help him do such a thing? Partner in crime? In the Bernardo case in Canada investigators made a deal with his wife (Carla Homolka) only to later discover her intimate involvement with the kidnappings, rapes, and murders. Of course the pizza ordering could have been some other female associate of Heuermann, like a hooker he put up to making a prank order?
That would explain 2 of her hairs on one of the bodies and only 1 of Rex Heuerman's hair.
Since the dates of the killings were always when his wife was traveling, it probably was an escort.
@@Denise-AnnI thought it was because he probably killed then in the house
A female has been brought up by way too many witnesses...way too many times now. And the wifes hairs was on 2 or 3 of the victims. It's only sensible to investigate her, and the adult daughter. LE made them leave their home, no clothes, no electronics or PC's-tablets, etc. I wonder why victims advocates aren't helping the family?
Hmm
Can't they check phone records?
They very likely will. 🤔
How incredibly terrifying 😳
My hair stood up from head to toe listening to this. 😧😧😧
I must say, News Nation somehow shakes all of the bees out of the tree on hot stories. Where do they find these people?
That’s Shannon Gilbert’s lawyer
Yes. But why do they get these stories only? They've got some serious shakers and movers.
I always thought NewsNation is right on point not like CNN or Fox, fake news
Online
If this was a phone call, how did he "show a clip"? I'm just one minute in but that struck me as odd.
WE BREED those Monsters in a Sick Society
there are 1000´s more
much smarter
as Ted Bundy complained bitterly
"Just one last question, Do you like pineapples and ham?"
"The pizza?"
"Yes, is that a something you'd order normally?"
"It's not something I'd to admit on air...but yes."
"So you ate the pizza?"
"I mean, I shared it. I can't eat 3 pizzas"
"That is frightening"
*alternate universe interview ending
Ok...at "1:02" he says he got shown clips. I thought it was a phone call. Did I miss something??
I think he meant played clips. I caught that too.
It’s almost impossible to follow what this lawyer is saying. Idk if he was nervous or what but you would think that a lawyer could speak concisely and accurately in full sentences.
Loving what your doing John Thanks for Caring and Loving ✝️🙏🕊️💜
Justice for all these victims!
Wow. There are some EVIL people out there 😡
I think there is evil and then the next level.
The lawyer makes no sense.
This is frightening to hear how Pizzas are connected to this case, this Rex Psycho seems to be a Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde character. Once the sun goes down the monster sick puppy appears. If there's Pizzas involved it's definitely this serial killer
Not to mention 🍕is affiliated with Pizza Gate 😢
But I love pizza this isn't bloody fare!
...Did his pizza have pineapple and ham???
That's one of the most terrifying things I've heard. It's enough for me to want to board up my windows and change my phone number, just in case.
Wow! If this guy Rex is indeed responsible for Shannan’s murder, it will mean that he had accomplices that assisted him with his killings. (Shannan’s driver) 😮
man this story is getting weirder and weirder everyday
The conclusion you’re drawing here isn’t logical. Michael Pak had no motive to kill Shannan, his employer, and he was ruled out in all these killings long ago. I’m not certain yet where Rex’s home is in relation to the homes Shannan was at the night she disappeared. But if Rex’s was close to where Shannan went missing, her screams might have gotten his attention & she became a victim of opportunity for Rex.
Shannan was buried essentially in that strange doctor’s backyard - the one who called Shannan’s mom and said he treated her at his “home for wayward girls” then lied about making those calls before finally admitting to them. He’s sus af.
Then there’s the corrupt and violently kinky (and also just violent) former chief of police, who blocked the FBI’s efforts to assist on this case. Also sus af. And these two men could have working with Rex or separately from him. At least 2 of the victims don’t fit the profile of the others and the MO of the killer was different than the person who killed the Gilgo Four.
obviously somebody was trolling him
I suppose attorney tends to get a weird and sometimes threatening phone call all the time... but I agree this is creepy.
So scary! I wonder who the woman heard on the phone is?
I feel his wife knew something.
I used to get calls similar to this when I was a teen
Wow, that’s so creepy.
It’s very possible there is more than one killer
This is terrifying! that poor family, that is one sick person for sure.
This is crazy stuff about the phone call
Oh my Lord! How frightening!
This man might go down as the WORST serial killer in America’s history. So glad they caught him
They can probably compare the voice recording to the actual person.They definitely need to look into that.
omg im going to have nightmares!!!
Find out if his wife was out of town the day you got the pizzas.
Does it mean his wife may be involved
Only thing more chilling than Rex Heuermann is John Ray's suit!
So a woman ordered the Dominoes pizza. I still think they need to look into his wife. Not that she killed anyone, but I do believe she did everything he told her to do without asking, maybe due to depression or abuse, including sending a pizza. I’m sure Rex was like “call and order a pizza for my friend “ from one of his burner phones and she did just that without asking. Who else would waste their time and money to mess with this attorney? He’s not known for many other controversial cases.
Geez!!! Very scary.
Haunting" ... Monsters come with friendly faces and a Smile ... Very devilish and wicked.
I hope it was him, Now he is locked up, and this family is safe.
I wonder if he thought to hear if it was the same voice he heard on the phone, when Rex spoke in court. This is so creepy!
Let's hope for their sake that caller was him
I hope this lunatic does not plead insanity. This is beyond evil and twisted
Don't they recognize his voice?? Why not trace the call if it was a long call??
That’s one really twisted, sick psycho killer that continued to taunt not only his victim’s family members, but their attorney, too!!
John Ray is the man. Not only does he dress like a suave parrot, but he has been going STRONG for these victims and families since the beginning. He is amazing. Not surprised he had these disturbing taunting calls. He has never backed away from his fight for justice and whoever LISK is (lookin like you Rex, buddyyyy) probably is very aware of him and considers him a thorn in his side. Not to mention, "taunting" the victims and their families- esp by phone- is a favorite past time of LISK. I hope Mr. Ray and his family will find peace and safety - hopefully that's already happened since now atleast the ogre under the bridge is behind bars. I 100% think he's guilty- of HOW MANY is the question.
Sounds like something that comes out a movie but this is real life.🙏🏽
Man who would dare make harassing calls to Hide The Pain Harold
I learned the 1st year of having internet how many demented people are put there. I was about 24 and a guy on a sports forum thought i was too harsh on the teams gm. So he would try say creepy things to get me to stop till he flat out sent me my adress and told me he was gona kill everyone in my family. Ever since then i dobt know how everyone whose on social media deals with peoole threatening to kill them? They just ignore it? Or does it not happen often?
Unsettling
5:16 " So have you had any calls since Rex Heuermann was arrested"? She asks that just as his phone starts to vibrate 🤣
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I don't understand the part where his daughter climbs out a window with a cell phone in her hand??? Can someone explain?? 1:50
Who else would care about a 10 year old case . . . .
A lot of people. Unsolved mysteries is a huge subset of the true crimes market.
These cases have generated so much interest in the last decade. There are plenty of sick people who would try to insert themselves into a case like this.
The families of the people who were killed!
The name of the lawyer for the victims is public knowledge. It's likely that the accused Rex Heuermann obtained more details about the lawyer's family from social media accounts.
Once he figured out where his daughter was, he went to the west coast (since he also has a home/s there) and surveilled her. He most likely placed the pizza orders from the west coast using a burner phone.
Moral of the story: Not to reveal your details (personally identifiable information, family members & how you are related to them, travel plans) on social media.
They mentioned something about the phone # being theirs if I recall, so the killer or his accomplices are technically proficient enough to spoof the phone number to make it appear as though the lawyer ordered it. Then again, pizza places often ask what phone number to put the pizza under too so he might have just told them.
0:43 Who is screaming in that clip at :45 seconds? Right when they switch to John ray.
Why can't we can't hear a recording of the call?
Chills and how disturbing!!!
Who answeres unsaved numbers nowadays especially at 1am. DECLINE!
He got Dominos pizza to deliver pizzas for free. 😩 I’m glad they caught this very evil man.
This is so scary
The compound he was creating down south is more than horrifying. Who knows what he was planning.
probably a torture chambers. 😕
THAT my friends, is fkn CRAZY. It was DEFINITELY this scum rex - he was diabolical with his methods.