the video was great but in my opinion kazuha and xilonen have enough differences that makes them both equally good and none is better than the other . Kazuha has crowd control and xilonen has longer buff + healing . Its not a matter of comparison but having practically 2 kazuhas in spiral abyss is just golden . Both have different roles and provide similar buffs as well so why not use both
@@sentisenti3229At first i intended to include furina, but she needs stacks and in every team we can't gain her full stacks especially in arlecchino team, so i removed her later
The fact that you'd still get a higher buff with Bennet even if he had sapwood and not mistplitter, and that too on a character like Ayato, for whom the bennet's c6 is useless just proves to us the power of the true Pyro archon
What I feel people often miss is that running Xilonen with Zhongli also gives you damage bonus from geo resonance and res shred from his shield. You probably still get less than Kazuha but not a lot less and you get extreme survivability and ease of play (and the geo resonance damage buff for any element and Zhongli shield effects have practically constant uptime with how long his shield lasts, not 6 seconds or whatever) - Xilonen was definitely a Zhongli buff imo - this core could support pretty much any hyper carry
Bennet cant swirl and shred resistance😂 Attack buff has a limit. You cant just stack attack %😂 Attack buff is additive means its stronger in first hit or normal hit. But in reactions attack buff is weak because its not multiplicative like crit or elemental bunos. Bennet attack buff maybe alot but it cant compete with Elemental bunos and defense shred buffs.
Kazuha has other advantages: Contrary to Xilonen, Kazuha just needs 1 PECH element character to boost that element. Xilonen needs 2, not just to buff but to heal as well. Kazuha has a better grouping machanics which can make clearing the Abyss (and other fights) faster. Kazuha, in my opinion, is easier to build and his burst and elemental skill do some damage. To build a strong enough Xilonen which also does boost is hard (but not impossible). But, at C2 Xilonen is better than C2 Kazuha. I would say, I still think Kazuha is more useful, though Xilonen is right there in terms of game-changing mechanics.
Nice!!! it would be good if could check with other sups too like Furina, Mona, Yunjin, and btw, any chance that xinqiu was using tenacit of the milenith to have an extra bonus in the vape test?
if only xilonen has off field elemental application for additional reactions and off field damage. She’d be at kazuha’s level. I must say tho that this comparison is really fair. Nice work. Benett still at the top of the food chain.
There is no she'd be at kazuha level. They're both S tier.They're equal to each other until you get their cons. C2 kazuha will be better for any character that needs reactions and a specific element app, and C2 Xilonen will be better for anything else.
Xilonen is already better than kazuha for neuvi and arlecchino ,sure you can play both but if must pick one ,buff last double with both those characters specially with arlecchino c2 able reset her meter with ulti , kazuha and xilonen give same damage into 8 seconds and xilonen is around 40% stronger than kazuha into 15 seconds fight.On c2 xilonent is vastly stronger than kazuha in both 8 seconds and 15 seconds
Great compareson love it. But im gunna nit pick on zilonen missing c2 is a big nerf on her buffing capabilities and without 3,200 defense to prock her swords full potential is another thing to work on for full potental zilonen
@@mikeymikey4429 yes it will work, I'll be uploading a video tmr u can check the teams at that time, i have already recorded the video with the same team u have mentioned and the buff is insane
It’s actually the best team for neuvillette right now, do furina skill and burst, do xilonen skill and 2 normal attacks, do kazuha skill to swirl hydro, then neuvi goes brrrrr
@@nashhm7693 Oh so i needed to use kazuha's burst to make his buff last for only 3s? U guys just want to comment anything without thinking ryt? If u wanna see a video of using kazuha's burst watch the latest video on my channel
Of course lah I tripple crown xilonen on day 1. Shes busted. The downside againts kazuha is only grouping. So use kazuha when fight small spread multiple enemies. Or if can just use both
Yes he can i know tht, but can he keep up the buff for 15s? U will loose the first buff if u try gaining another... 2 elemental buffs with kazuha is not practical
Or u could Rock both my nigga, kazuha buff doesn’t last long. U could rock both, ain’t dat hard, kazuha sometimes can’t even use his swirl and burst on certain enemies, on the other we have da new geo girl which she can.
You want better vapes? But Xingqiu on Noblesse and Bennet on Instructor. Edit: Also, you can double swirl with Guoba on the last team with Kazuha, which theoretically should provide better team damage.
But Xilonen has more QoL because she doesn't need to do any swirl setups and can just apply her shred and dmg bonus for 15s with the heal being optional depending on dps
with double swirl and probably 4-5 seconds lasting bonus for hit imo low total damage..in a 15 seconds fight xilonent deal 40% more damage than every kazuha c0 or c6 no difference
@@francescosorgi6633 damn mate ur the only one who got my point, that kazuha buff won't last long if we try to double swirl, rest of them are just saying the theoretical part
@@mrh_gamer23 game is easy so killing something 0.3 seconds faster make no difference i assume more people think kazuha is stronger because on a very short fight deal a little more damage but honestly a fraction of second make no realistic difference...real difference are longer fights ,if mihoyo start to release harder contents the xilonen powercreep will be much more visible.People focus often on the single number and not the total damage you make in a full rotation.
@@RayZone if u don't have a good dps for urself u should prioritize neuvilette first, and if ur going for neuvi u can prioritize furina coz neuvi can activate full C0 furina buff easily, if ur looking for a support u can prefer xilonen she can almost buff every element except dendro and anemo, I'll say go for xilonen if ur f2p and looking for a good support...if ur p2w u can prefer c3 furina first as her buff is alot
@@RayZone thts great but still u can opt for xilonen coz both in a single team gives insane buff.... Finally its upto u coz if ur really in need of a strong dps u can go for neuvilette
@@mrh_gamer23 why are u lying ?? there are so many teams w/out neuv that can max furinas buff at c0 and usually if ur not running him with a party wide healer you're not getting her full buff even with neuv
@@cantanuh bruh i said neuvi can easily active her full buff i didn't say tht there are no other characters who can get her full fanfare stacks, And come to think of it i ain't lying coz if u aren't using neuvi u need a full team healer which takes up a slot of ur support or sub dps it always comes with a price if ur using furina on other team, i simply said neuvi can easily get her full fanfare stacks and no u don't need a full team healer with neuvi i can prove it
@@xeronndegroot- Yea but u can say Neuvi, kazuha,xilonen and furina team is the strongest my dmg output was not good because i don't have good artifacts for neuvilette u can gain much more dmg if u have a good one's
@@ghp2024y my mona is still lvl 80 so i can't compare her n i can tell u the difference here, if ur using furina with a hydro char thn furina is better, she can give more dmg bonus thn anyone, still at normal condition furina stands at same level as kazuha and xilonen but the main drawback is she needs fanfare for maximum output and also she's a best sub dps in current game
the video was great but in my opinion kazuha and xilonen have enough differences that makes them both equally good and none is better than the other . Kazuha has crowd control and xilonen has longer buff + healing . Its not a matter of comparison but having practically 2 kazuhas in spiral abyss is just golden . Both have different roles and provide similar buffs as well so why not use both
@@Noah-x8m yup ur exactly right buddy
U speak facts, although it's normal for humans to compare and it's fun to see nonetheless
Do u know what's crazy here? Bennett is still meta in terms of support.
@@Mr_nice_guy3365 Yup thts y he's called a 6 star character ;)
Crazy is they don’t consider furina for best support
@@sentisenti3229At first i intended to include furina, but she needs stacks and in every team we can't gain her full stacks especially in arlecchino team, so i removed her later
Benny will always be there..
@@sentisenti3229she'll cause vaporize tho so it makes sense why she isn't here
This was one of the most comprehensive comparison video abt xilonen i have seen, u got a sub bro
@@shankalpapatra1467 Thank you buddy, I'm happy tht u liked it
The fact that you'd still get a higher buff with Bennet even if he had sapwood and not mistplitter, and that too on a character like Ayato, for whom the bennet's c6 is useless just proves to us the power of the true Pyro archon
the fact BENNETT is the best is still bewildering to me
@@sincerely_kotoka he's literally a 6 star unit for atk scaling chars
His the MVP in almost all version
But can he buff hp scalers? No he’s not the absolute best
Yeah try him with Mualani, see how that goes...
What I feel people often miss is that running Xilonen with Zhongli also gives you damage bonus from geo resonance and res shred from his shield. You probably still get less than Kazuha but not a lot less and you get extreme survivability and ease of play (and the geo resonance damage buff for any element and Zhongli shield effects have practically constant uptime with how long his shield lasts, not 6 seconds or whatever) - Xilonen was definitely a Zhongli buff imo - this core could support pretty much any hyper carry
Bennet cant swirl and shred resistance😂
Attack buff has a limit. You cant just stack attack %😂
Attack buff is additive means its stronger in first hit or normal hit.
But in reactions attack buff is weak because its not multiplicative like crit or elemental bunos.
Bennet attack buff maybe alot but it cant compete with Elemental bunos and defense shred buffs.
Nice but add timestamps to easily access diff parts of video
@@TeddyBearAru Ok buddy I'll add it now
Kazuha has other advantages:
Contrary to Xilonen, Kazuha just needs 1 PECH element character to boost that element. Xilonen needs 2, not just to buff but to heal as well.
Kazuha has a better grouping machanics which can make clearing the Abyss (and other fights) faster.
Kazuha, in my opinion, is easier to build and his burst and elemental skill do some damage. To build a strong enough Xilonen which also does boost is hard (but not impossible).
But, at C2 Xilonen is better than C2 Kazuha.
I would say, I still think Kazuha is more useful, though Xilonen is right there in terms of game-changing mechanics.
@@Eyelash85 Both the characters are good and i can say y not using both of em
Nice!!! it would be good if could check with other sups too like Furina, Mona, Yunjin, and btw, any chance that xinqiu was using tenacit of the milenith to have an extra bonus in the vape test?
@@dipereira0123 no he was just using emblem set
This was one of the most comprehensive comparison video abt xilonen i have seen
Bennett gives her pyro resonance too.
If u want her hypercarry use all three
People constantly comparing who is better.
Me, using both in the same team (or in separate teams in the abyss) to make the dps stronger.
Loved The Video Man,
Straight To Everything And Clean.
Nice Showcase. 😊
I'll Check Out Your Channel Later For Sure!
@@ankanything I'm glad u liked it, thank you ;)
if only xilonen has off field elemental application for additional reactions and off field damage. She’d be at kazuha’s level. I must say tho that this comparison is really fair. Nice work.
Benett still at the top of the food chain.
@@chichi8517 u have a good point but still i think kazuha n xilonen are on same level,
Thank u for the appreciation mate ;)
There is no she'd be at kazuha level. They're both S tier.They're equal to each other until you get their cons. C2 kazuha will be better for any character that needs reactions and a specific element app, and C2 Xilonen will be better for anything else.
Xilonen is already better than kazuha for neuvi and arlecchino ,sure you can play both but if must pick one ,buff last double with both those characters specially with arlecchino c2 able reset her meter with ulti , kazuha and xilonen give same damage into 8 seconds and xilonen is around 40% stronger than kazuha into 15 seconds fight.On c2 xilonent is vastly stronger than kazuha in both 8 seconds and 15 seconds
You gained a sub nice video buddy
@@Biased_MF thanks alot buddy 😉
Nice video, very usefull. But why don't you use Kazuha's ultimate ? It gives a lot of elemental bonus, at lvl 10 it's 65%.
@@oubmathys that bonus only applies for kazuha not for other characters
@@mrh_gamer23 Ohhh I always thought it was a buff for the whole team.
In that case, your video is perfect and i learned something today thanks to you.
@@oubmathys in the first i was also mistaken by that,
thank you too buddy, I'm glad u liked my video ;)
@@oubmathysit’s a multiplier not elemental dmg bonus
2:49 Your normals didn't even crit she does 170 to 180k easily. Eat crit buff for better showcase
@@dmitri_1i bruh if i eat crit food people will say i used food buffs n its unfair
Great compareson love it. But im gunna nit pick on zilonen missing c2 is a big nerf on her buffing capabilities and without 3,200 defense to prock her swords full potential is another thing to work on for full potental zilonen
it's an f2p comparison, all other characters shown have f2p level of investment also
@dan.urquhart (a c6 Bennet f2p) sure if your lucky or have played the game for a few years
this is a really good video i loved the explanations, new subscriber :)
@@dennraeh Thank you buddy ;)
Xilonen buffing sub-dps means her and Mavuika is gonna be insane!!
@@hollow_universe42 yup the dmg output will be insane
The nonsense is complete, Xilonen has more DPS because Kazuha swirled only the pyro element (kazuha can swirl 2 elements)
@@themix162 check my latest video on the channel, that video is solely made for u guys
If u dont mind , can you share xiolnen as support in wrio melt or hypercarry 😊
@@appadon_0 i would definitely love to share it buddy, but sadly I don't have wrio : ( ..... U can try using wrio,xilonen,kazuha and benette
ok i found this today and there is no xilonen banner
@@tomoya02 ur Little late buddy
@@mrh_gamer23 yeah i know, that's why i hate youtube for not recommending me this video until now
I have a question: Does Shilonin's buff work with this team, which is Neovelite, Fornia, and Kazuha?
@@mikeymikey4429 yes it will work, I'll be uploading a video tmr u can check the teams at that time, i have already recorded the video with the same team u have mentioned and the buff is insane
@@mrh_gamer23 thx very much
It’s actually the best team for neuvillette right now, do furina skill and burst, do xilonen skill and 2 normal attacks, do kazuha skill to swirl hydro, then neuvi goes brrrrr
@@Yoshihiro788 exactly
Also xilonen's burst to counter furina's hp drain
Really helpful video. Keep it up
@@Turja-w1z Thank u mate ;)
That's a great video, a new subscriber here ❤🎉
@@AyatoKamisato-nw6ck Thank u buddy ;)
Finally a decent video. Thnk u
@@brulckgui I'm glad it helped u buddy
He didnt use Kazuha burst😂 wheres the Elemental bunos?😂
@@nashhm7693 Oh so i needed to use kazuha's burst to make his buff last for only 3s? U guys just want to comment anything without thinking ryt? If u wanna see a video of using kazuha's burst watch the latest video on my channel
yes xilo is faster but you forget something
im talking about kazuha s ult u didnt use it
@@natsudragnir4861 kazuha's ult gives EM buff only at c2
And for the dmg purpose i also didn't use xilonen's burst to keep it even
@@mrh_gamer23 ye but kazuha s ult gives elementary dmg
@@mrh_gamer23 They mean that with Kazuha's ult you can keep the damage bonus and/or shred resistances of multiple elements.
Of course lah I tripple crown xilonen on day 1.
Shes busted. The downside againts kazuha is only grouping.
So use kazuha when fight small spread multiple enemies.
Or if can just use both
@@lullaby2love232 I'm gonna use both 😁
Can you try with mona too?? Sir??
@@HopeCor3s my mona is still lvl 80 tho and i haven't upgraded her burst too I'll upgrade it n make a video 😉 and don't call me sir buddy 😅
@@mrh_gamer23 ohhh maybe next time 🤗
furina eats them all im afraid
Sure but it's harder to get her full buff
I have all 3 of them in my team and they AUTO DELETE everything 😂 feels like im cheating tbh
@@grimreaper3576 They are insanely good 😭
2:33 how about changing Arlec's goblet to Atk%
there is so much Dmg bonus here
Yup i already did tht and got better dmg I'll upload tht video later, btw thanks for ur suggestion mate 😁
i got around 120k max dmg with all 3 of them team with xilonen skill at lvl 6
@@mizu9420 whoaa ur build must be so good
4:10 kazuha can also double swirl which would give damage increase bigger than xilonen
Yes he can i know tht, but can he keep up the buff for 15s? U will loose the first buff if u try gaining another... 2 elemental buffs with kazuha is not practical
Or u could Rock both my nigga, kazuha buff doesn’t last long. U could rock both, ain’t dat hard, kazuha sometimes can’t even use his swirl and burst on certain enemies, on the other we have da new geo girl which she can.
@@mrh_gamer23 you overrate buff uptime in a game where you can two cycle a boss💀. Biased youtubers as always
@@dawensci7134 huh?
kazuha vape is enough to me w/ white tassle 200k
c6 furina ro c2?
@@Normal_days635 C0
You want better vapes? But Xingqiu on Noblesse and Bennet on Instructor.
Edit:
Also, you can double swirl with Guoba on the last team with Kazuha, which theoretically should provide better team damage.
Kazuha can't guoba swirl canhe?
But Xilonen has more QoL because she doesn't need to do any swirl setups and can just apply her shred and dmg bonus for 15s with the heal being optional depending on dps
My arle c0 with white tassel with xilonen hits like 60 to 70k per solo hit i don't have kazuha can she hit 100k vap is it not possible
@@nithinkumar007 she can easily hit 120-130k per hit on vape u should try it
with double swirl and probably 4-5 seconds lasting bonus for hit imo low total damage..in a 15 seconds fight xilonent deal 40% more damage than every kazuha c0 or c6 no difference
@@francescosorgi6633 damn mate ur the only one who got my point, that kazuha buff won't last long if we try to double swirl, rest of them are just saying the theoretical part
@@mrh_gamer23 game is easy so killing something 0.3 seconds faster make no difference i assume more people think kazuha is stronger because on a very short fight deal a little more damage but honestly a fraction of second make no realistic difference...real difference are longer fights ,if mihoyo start to release harder contents the xilonen powercreep will be much more visible.People focus often on the single number and not the total damage you make in a full rotation.
@@francescosorgi6633 i agree with u, and I'm really planning to make a full video about it
If i dont have neuvileete and furina, should i prioritize they first rather than xilonen?
@@RayZone if u don't have a good dps for urself u should prioritize neuvilette first, and if ur going for neuvi u can prioritize furina coz neuvi can activate full C0 furina buff easily, if ur looking for a support u can prefer xilonen she can almost buff every element except dendro and anemo, I'll say go for xilonen if ur f2p and looking for a good support...if ur p2w u can prefer c3 furina first as her buff is alot
@@mrh_gamer23 but i already hve kazuha c2r1
@@RayZone thts great but still u can opt for xilonen coz both in a single team gives insane buff.... Finally its upto u coz if ur really in need of a strong dps u can go for neuvilette
@@mrh_gamer23 why are u lying ?? there are so many teams w/out neuv that can max furinas buff at c0 and usually if ur not running him with a party wide healer you're not getting her full buff even with neuv
@@cantanuh bruh i said neuvi can easily active her full buff i didn't say tht there are no other characters who can get her full fanfare stacks, And come to think of it i ain't lying coz if u aren't using neuvi u need a full team healer which takes up a slot of ur support or sub dps it always comes with a price if ur using furina on other team, i simply said neuvi can easily get her full fanfare stacks and no u don't need a full team healer with neuvi i can prove it
Lore accurate Bennett
so the strongest team arlecchino vapo is with xilonen?
@@xeronndegroot- Yea but u can say Neuvi, kazuha,xilonen and furina team is the strongest my dmg output was not good because i don't have good artifacts for neuvilette u can gain much more dmg if u have a good one's
Mona furina plz
I have all support but I'm lazy
@@ghp2024y my mona is still lvl 80 so i can't compare her n i can tell u the difference here, if ur using furina with a hydro char thn furina is better, she can give more dmg bonus thn anyone, still at normal condition furina stands at same level as kazuha and xilonen but the main drawback is she needs fanfare for maximum output and also she's a best sub dps in current game
Please mihoyo deled Bennet
bu remember bennet heals, reducing arlec bond of life faster, causing a faster damage drop off since arlec scale of bond of life
@@skepziev2565 but buddy nobody can heal arlecchino during battle, she can only heal herself by her burst or by other healers when she's not in combat
16k mora 💀
@@blairy_fairy i was broke after building xilonen on first day 🤧
Arlecchino without signature artifact 😂
Get c1 Arlecchino bro.
@@DatRandomGuy. I don't have wishes buddy I'm f2p 🥲
We don't have the banner either lol
This was one of the most comprehensive comparison video abt xilonen i have seen