How to make a Broken Back Style Knife Sheath
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2017
- Learn how to make a Viking Broken Back Saex Knife Sheath. Starting with sketching the design, to water forming the leather, then carving the sheath, making bronze rivets from scratch and adding bronze plate to it. Accompanied by a voice over of his thoughts on the process, random comments, and information.
A broken back knife or saex is one where the angle of the tip of the knife is opposite to more commonly found blades.
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Dark Horse Workshop How would you wear this sheath?
Love how you acknowledge your mistakes. It turned out very nice. Well done
Very talented.
I love this. I need this in my life
Thanks for showing the whole process. The balance of humour, self deprecation and knowledge is perfect.
Excellent work.
This is exactly the kind of video I was looking for! I recently bought a seax and was looking for a video showing me how to form the leather so it curves.
One trick for achieving both mechanically sound and aesthetically pleasing rivets when riveting through soft material (rubber, leather, cloth, etc) is to make the most of the first strike. I'll second the previous comment about using drift punches instead of hammering directly onto the rivet... at least for the first blow. It should be a relatively hard hit to do the initial forming of the shop head. This will Sandwhich everything together, causing the rivet to expand on the outside (which you want) without allosing it to expand as much inside the piece (bad!).
Hope this helps. I've got 10 years of metalworking under my belt, so feel free to ask me any questions.
Thanks for the videos. I just found your feed and I've learned and laughed a lot already! Looking forward to more.
Til Valhalla!
I’d like to have this. Great job
Very nice work.
Dude, you are hard on yourself, but I respect the standard you achieve. That thing looks awesome!!!
I am! Haha. Thanks.
I’m a knife maker and leather worker I think it came out great the only thing I can Suggest is to make your sheath compleat to fit the knife then open it up and tool it . Use super sheen on the bird then stain. Fold a seam on the bronze makes it not so sharp on all edges, and looks thicker then peen from the back side only. I only wish I could draw like you. Great job .
I agree, except I would tool the raven design before forming it. You have your pattern, and you know both where the raven and the knife are going. Just one tip (experience being the best teacher,) when forming the sheath, try not to rub out any of your design. However if you’re going for the old, used, rugged look, then go ahead and rub out some of your design.
Well done Magnus, gave me some new ideas, with regard to metal work.
Yes you are hard on yourself but if it is too hard is up to you. Do you praise yourself highly when things go well? I really appreciated the way your video was made. Speeded up video with your calm voiced audio made things go faster but quite understandably. I followed it all well and you gave me confidence to try harder techniques. 😉
Beautiful sheath and a fitting knife to go with it! Thanks for the cool video.
This is fabulous!! I am inspired to get into leather working now!!
You did pretty good for someone who doesn't do a lot of metal work. Rivets are definitely a pain in the ass.
Great video,great workmanship! Thank you.
Informative and super cool!
You haven't out many videos out but what you have is top quality. I'll definitely be sticking around.
Thanks a bunch. :)
Same
Solid, good looking work. Hope to try it on my own stuff in the future.
Great job
AMAZING!
Awesome sheath and video. I'm watching this for the second time and it is still fascinating. Had a couple of those late night dying sessions this week myself, totally understand the decision making process in those late hours.
what a talent.
I tired a new project to learn new stitching patterns, I made it and took it apart 3 times and each time I changed my technique inking with what I had learned on each previous make. As I said it took 3 attempts until I was happy so self critique is always good 👍
Awesome man, glad to see your channel doing so well and you killing it at what you love.
Thanks Virgil, definitely enjoying the process.
very nice sheath!!!
+clorsa thanks!
this is amazing! i have been wanting to get into a lil bit of leather working i just got a broken back seax so im ganna have to try this. thnx for the inspiration! Excellent work and video i really liked it.
Good Valknut on that shirt !
Great stuff Magnus! Been watching your Heavy vids for ages now, and I always really admired your armor/kit. Glad to be able to watch your process with the craft.
Thanks man! More to come!
Good to hear! I know that the focus of this channel is likely more leather-craft oriented, but if you find the time to do some Heavy armor vids (creation/strapping/padding/etc.) I'm sure it'd be great resource for the community!
Really nice build. :)
Trajan Leather Works Thank you kindly.
Great ....loved the whole video, especially the narrative on your boo boo's. Have watched a few of your vid's, this one convinced me to subscribe.
Looks good :)
The added metal is really cool! I think I will have to try that out on one of my own sheaths. Great video!
James Taylor My other knife sheath video does some added brass. Glad you enjoyed it.
I saw the other one as well also a great looking sheath! Keep up the good work!
Great sheath and like the shirt designs on your link
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Hey Magnus, a little late here but if you haven’t already heard of them, Draco metal benders can make amazing flanges straight or curved in metal. The disk bender has a nice radius for the leather.
Really enjoy the vids!
Try using a vise to get even bends on the metal material. Just line the teeth of the vise with leather and use a rubber mallet so it doesnt leave marks. 😉👍🏼
Can't remember what I did here but it was probablt shit-tastic. :) I've started using a vibe and some thick metal peices to look things down when I bend them. Some of that is on my recent book videos.
Look at it this way. Mistakes were made but now you know what to do next time. I think it looked nice.
Why don't you have a larger following? Your honesty and workmanship is refreshing.
Thanks for that. It's sloooowly getting there. I need to make more videos, that'd help. :)
Dark Horse Workshop Keep up the good work then! Hope all the best for you and your channel ♡
Wow I am just starting into the leather work world and this project you did looks totally awesome I think adding the metal edges really set it off! Once I get more practice in I am definitely going to try to add that to my project. To bad I not very artistic to do carving as good as yours but practice makes perfect keep up the great videos!!!
I haven't done rivets for jewelry in around 20 years, but two tips I could give are 1) Blue Tape. Pierce the tape with your rivet through the hole, and it'll help keep you from scuffing the plate underneath. 2) try using a smaller peen. The hammer you used seemed a little large for the delicate work you did.
Beyond those tips, I just gotta say that sheath looks great. I felt a little bad listening to you talk about things you "messed up" or you felt didn't work out because your final product looks fantastic! The raven looks great!
Lokks very good at the end,but hard way^^
Hello #DarkHorseWorkshop , I think it looks great man , Good job .
Usually when I'm folding/bending metal, I file a line where I plan on bending it. If I'm going for a 90 degree angle, I'll file probably half-way through the metal (with the corner of the file, not the flat side!)
Hopefully that helps you out! Keep up the awesome work, man.
Sierra Hamilton Great tip. Thanks a bunch!
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You should make mini metal break to make nice crisp edges
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11:30 What about drilling your first two holes flat, and the drilling the other two through after the bend? There are also metal bending formulas if you really want to get technical, but having a brake and getting used to where the bend gets executed vs. material lost due to thickness can go a long way. Personally, the wood technique works just great. Keep the awesome content coming!
Your voice sounds like Johan Hegg's from Amon Amarth! :D
My friend is from a clan who pray ravens, he could be happy to see this :D
That's great.
Your wicked man, SKOL! @Montgomery Leather on Facebook, nice to meet other heathen artisans!
This really turned out great!
Couple things: 1. If the knife did cut through the stitching because you didn't use a welt, it would loosen the friction retention up drastically, presumably almost allowing the knife to fall out. 2. Don't try to clamp on high density plastic, it never works right ;) I at work right now where we manufacture it, and I also have it on my leather-working bench at home. So I can tell you from both professional and practical perspectives that it won't hold your project still haha
+The King's Armourer thanks for the great tips.
Dark Horse Workshop any time! Thanks for your honesty reviews of your work! It's really helpful to hear what you could have done better or wish you had done
Vice grip flat jaw sheet metal pliers . That’s what I use to get good small metal piece bends.
Well 25 pieces of paper is actually 125 pages but you could also just... Put more pages in it...
great vid, what is the music?
The Saxons were named after this style of weapon, the Angles were named after a style of spear and the Franks were apparently named after their throwing axe. I always wonder whether these names were applied by the people themselves or by the people they were fighting and trading with.
This was a very cool build to watch and gave me some great ideas as a beginner leather worker. Mind if I ask what is the tool (The metal block with the holes in it) you used to make the rivets with called.
J Hammer Glad you enjoyed it. HEXAGONAL STEEL RIVETING BLOCK
Hey there buddy, I see you have alot of tools for riveting so im surprised you dont know the little tricks.
You really should stop hammering directly onto the rivet when you pein, try our using medium to long punches. You will control the surface and angle of the impact interaction with the pin with much greater accuracy. Also you can start grinding the punches you use into different diameters (both concave and convex or even patterns). You can still start the pein with a small drill or center punch in order to control the spread better.
+Lewis Glen when riveting anything else I peen directly onto it and form it quite easily. But the smallest I've done before these was 1/8. I can do those with my eyes closed. I'll try some punches perhaps. But I think if these were perfectly straight premade rivets of this size I'd have less issues.
Hello again, sorry it took so long to reply, it took me a while to find an appropriate manual.
www.forgottenbooks.com/en/books/BoltNutandRivetForging_10512844
The technology around fixture manufacture hasn't changed in a century, more specifically; the manner in which we conduct the shaping is the same and the application of tools has not changed. More simply put; make tools to suit compression of steel by copying existing methods and the results will be excellent.
I don't know about you but when i started my apprenticeship many years ago we were not allowed to pein directly onto a rivet until after we had mastered the use of punches.
To bend the metal, make a metal brake using a piano henge and plywood. You may need to adjust the brake to the thickness of the leather so your bends come out correctly, but I think you will be pleased.
Thanks a bunch I'll give that a shot!
I like watching you work and your narration. Just curious - do you make notes about your projects, what works, what doesn't, what do try differently? In my projects I usually make mental notes and then promptly forget what I needed to do differently the next time around.
I don't write much down, but I certainly remember what didn't work. :)
I know just what you mean :)
Have you considered a sheet metal break (you can make them with just some simple flat steel bar for what you're doing... or buying a small one at HF for your metal bends. A lot better than what you're doing there on the wood.
Activa
A quick stop by Harbor Freight will net you several sizes of metal brakes very inexpensively for bending your metal, if it is something you will do more than just the occasional one off it will be worth it. Did you make the seax by the way? I'm just finishing one up myself.
I didn't make the knife, but I'll be doing a handle for one soon. I'd love to make one, just don't have the right space for it.
Is there a technique for making tool marks on the metal pieces to maybe make it look older and more distressed?
Hey Magnus I'm Michael and i wish you warm greetings from Germany. First of all let me say that i've seen all your videos and I like them because they helped me getting started with my own leather artworks. If your able to do, I would like to see you making some viking styled boots or a body armour. That would be awesome.
So thanks again for your tutorials and go on.
Greetings
Michael
wouldn't it be possible/easier to carve the raven before forming the leather?
It was my first broken back so I was worried about it getting odd. Always carve before molding if you can do it and not screw it up.
@@DarkHorseWorkshop Alright, thanks for the answer! :)
The holes and the proper spacing of the rivets is not hard to get right if you have the leather in the metal and drill it al in one shot. We use a similar method in pure metal work, we put in one rivet (completely), then drill the next hole and so on.
It is really cool but maybe you could get a hand break for the metal
Hi. nice job . I would suggest when peening the rivet 1. use a smaller ball peening hammer and 2 after it has gone through the hole cut it closer to the plate as with a longer stem it will bend and be harder to peen . Just my thought i am No expert
What did you use for patina?
Ah ha! I knew I'd miss something. I've added the Jax I used to the description of the video.
What is that block you were using for the rivets?
Without checking the video was it just the anvil I drilled or maybe a chunk of lead.
I found it! It's a jeweler's anvil.
Late to the game but putting a thin strip of leather in between the two edges you sew stops the blade from catching and cutting the stitching, I'm only watching your vid amongst others as I'm about to salvage some hide from an old bike jacket for my seax build :-p
invest in a hobby press break or this old tony has a video on making one .PS the formulae for riveting is thickness of the material your going through in total ( in this case leather twice and bronze twice ) +2 x diameter of the rivet (per side your penning over ) example if your going through total thickness of sheath say 10 mm with 3 mm wire total would be 16 mm of wire (again if your penning both heads) (just to clarify my basis for this information i am a blacksmith) , your main problem riveting leather is the material does not support the sides of the rivet letting it buckle not pean over
Thank you, nice you're doing over there. Do you have an Instagram?
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At some points, you sound like Patrick Warburton!
He's awesome, and has a great voice!
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Broken back Seax = Anglo Saxon, in fact the Broken Back Seax was purely an Anglo Saxon Weapon
Fighting Arts of England Do you mean that Vikings didn't have this style of knife? Which I've only ever heard called broken back saex. Or do you just mean the terminology I'm using is Anglo Saxon. I love to learn. :)
The vikings rarely if ever used this type of seax, it was purely an anglo saxon type of Seax the Saxons were named after it and the Longsax in this style was found nowhere else except Anglo Saxon England. The BBS is purely an Anglo Saxon weapon. This style is found elsewhere but who knows how they got there ? The Varangian guard although populated by Vikings, after 1066 the Varangian guard recruited a lot of Anglo Saxon fighters as well and they of course took their weapons and the smiths that made them.
Fighting Arts of England neat. So all the Viking knives in this style are more drawing off the possibility of trade / conquest etc?
Dark Horse Workshop exactly yes
Yes that is exactly right, Trade or war
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No content without ads my friend. Can't survive making TH-cam videos and not make an income off them. But thanks for the view.
Just a suggestion for all your metal work, check out this channel: NancyLTHamilton. She also has an awesome website with an enormous amount of information. Hope that helps.
The stitching would have looked neater if you had used the machine or just use stitching irons to create your holes. Otherwise its not bad ... atb Jim