I appreciate how you dont edit out when you mess up a note. Every guitarist does that while practicing and sometimes when I watch dudes play online I feel like I suck.
Finally. I've been trying to figure out if scale pattern changes based on your tuning From what I got from your video, it the same but changes the position
I'll try to keep this short: When I first started playing guitar, it was on an acoustic. I had learned the basic chord shapes for major and minor chords, but I had the hang up of using a capo. I could put a capo at the third fret and learn a song using the G, C, D, and Em chords but not know what the actual notes and chords really were. When I started playing electric guitar I noticed the bands I was in to didn't use capos and that challenged me to learn the fret board. I wanted to learn every song I could that wasn't in E standard tuning. I wanted to where I could play the major and minor chords anywhere on the neck. Several years ago I started a notebook with graph paper and I made neck charts for all the tunings I had played with over the years so I would be able to know where my next note or chord was. One of the was I always referred to drop tunings as was "reverse capo-ing" a guitar. Some chords sound way better in different voicings and tunings. One of my favorite songs I ever wrote was in Open C5 [CGCGCC].
I like the method of "play around and see what you come up with" and that old chestnut "try to think of something that sounds cool and then try to figure out how to play it". If you ask me what note something is, I will "count up" from the open string till I get to it. That defines my relationship to theory :p
This was really handy! I’m relearning and really trying to wrap my head around different tunings. Any more ideas like this please post. There’s a need for it! Great sound also.
Memorizing the "standard" diatonic scale is almost the only thing that needs to be memorized by most metal guitarists. All of the modes are based off of that same pattern. Doesn't matter which notes are being played, but their relation to the key signature. Memorizing your intervals, understanding compound intervals, and understanding how those intervals make up scales and chords will cover about 90% of metal guitar.
One fascinating thing to me was that soundgarden’s “Black Hole Sun” was recorded and played in Drop D#/Eb. Not Eb standard… Drop Eb. Every other string was in F standard, so that whole step drop was still there.
Funny enough I started playing guitar in 2005 and have never played standard tuning, unless it was at a guitar store guitar. From day I tuned to 1/2 step down because of SRV and to me it always sounded better and my go to for most of my time playing was Drop C# and only over the last year have I fallen in love with Drop C.
Thanks for sharing this Ray! I pay attention to all your theory vids, definitely helps my playing a ton so it's always appreciated. Much love man, stay metal 🤘🏾🔥
i like to think of it like grabbing 4 pencils and writing your name with all of em simultaneously. your name shows up in 4 different spots and might even be different colors but its still your name.
Funny how similar u and I look at the fretboard.. I'm a shape kinda guy aa well.. I do stay within the confines of whatever scale I'm using whether it be phrygian Dorian or minor or whatever.. only thing I'd throw in here is that the note names do matter when going to harmonize my riffs. Or writing bridges or other parts to my jams.. just in terms of playing them on other areas of the fretboard. Cool video though. Very informative
Just listen to sylosis albums in standard, heavy as it gets. I look at it like low tuned is physically literally heavy based on pitch but e standard riffs are more psychologically heavy. Or something like that.
35-40 years ago was still sounding fresh. I think If most metal bands today used standard we would just say they’re ripping off the old metal riffs and can’t create anything new. So we downtuned to make it sound different. It’s really really hard to be creative in standard tuning without instantly going back to the 80s, I find anyway 🤷🏽♂️🙂. Some guys can still make it sound exciting but most can’t, we’ve been hearing guitar riffs in standard or Eb for sooooo long after a while it all sounds the same. Same thing will happen in a few years with everyone drop tuning and we’ll have to figure out something else to keep it exciting 😉
@@patrickolivier1 sounds like a they problem lol and there are thrash metal bands that are relatively new; Havok being my favorite. As for copying, you could argue that's a personal problem on the players end. I don't see a difference between standard and B standard. From a physical standpoint, anyway; chord shapes are exactly the same. I basically play the same style regardless of tuning. Except, obviously, open tunings. Just saying, really damn hard to make speed metal in an open tuning lol
Ik this video is old but I'm having problems. On E standard, Playing 5th fret is an A, up 2 strings and up 2 frets is an octave of A, but on Drop C, 5th fret is an F, up 2 strings and up 2 frets is a G?? So wouldn't that mess up scale and chord shapes too? Meaning music theory is different for every tuning?
Great video Ray! this actually helped me understand easier than most guides out there! Anyone got a good metal pedal to use if you one only has a combo amp (Fender GT100)?
Just starting on getting into drop running and I’m told is not good on a regular 25.5 scale guitars but I noticed baritones are a lil pricey… any suggestions on a affordable good brand for me a beginner on drop tuning
Just learn a fuck ton of metallica for standard and learn through improvisation then go to drop d and learn lamb of god, trivium and like any other difficult riffs and boom drop tuned
I appreciate how you dont edit out when you mess up a note. Every guitarist does that while practicing and sometimes when I watch dudes play online I feel like I suck.
Don’t worry you still suck
Finally. I've been trying to figure out if scale pattern changes based on your tuning
From what I got from your video, it the same but changes the position
I'll try to keep this short:
When I first started playing guitar, it was on an acoustic. I had learned the basic chord shapes for major and minor chords, but I had the hang up of using a capo. I could put a capo at the third fret and learn a song using the G, C, D, and Em chords but not know what the actual notes and chords really were.
When I started playing electric guitar I noticed the bands I was in to didn't use capos and that challenged me to learn the fret board.
I wanted to learn every song I could that wasn't in E standard tuning. I wanted to where I could play the major and minor chords anywhere on the neck.
Several years ago I started a notebook with graph paper and I made neck charts for all the tunings I had played with over the years so I would be able to know where my next note or chord was.
One of the was I always referred to drop tunings as was "reverse capo-ing" a guitar.
Some chords sound way better in different voicings and tunings.
One of my favorite songs I ever wrote was in Open C5 [CGCGCC].
I like the method of "play around and see what you come up with" and that old chestnut "try to think of something that sounds cool and then try to figure out how to play it".
If you ask me what note something is, I will "count up" from the open string till I get to it. That defines my relationship to theory :p
This was really handy! I’m relearning and really trying to wrap my head around different tunings. Any more ideas like this please post. There’s a need for it! Great sound also.
Memorizing the "standard" diatonic scale is almost the only thing that needs to be memorized by most metal guitarists. All of the modes are based off of that same pattern. Doesn't matter which notes are being played, but their relation to the key signature. Memorizing your intervals, understanding compound intervals, and understanding how those intervals make up scales and chords will cover about 90% of metal guitar.
I hope you’re doing good ray, it’s great to see this type of stuff in my recommendations again. Rock on brother 🤘🏼
Hey thanks so much for hanging!
Great video! Please do more educational video’s like this. As a intermediate player these kind of videos really help.
Your Chezzy riff at 17:20 sounds like a Ghost style riff. Dig you and your channel way more than Ghost! Stay metal!!!!
One fascinating thing to me was that soundgarden’s “Black Hole Sun” was recorded and played in Drop D#/Eb. Not Eb standard… Drop Eb. Every other string was in F standard, so that whole step drop was still there.
Funny enough I started playing guitar in 2005 and have never played standard tuning, unless it was at a guitar store guitar. From day I tuned to 1/2 step down because of SRV and to me it always sounded better and my go to for most of my time playing was Drop C# and only over the last year have I fallen in love with Drop C.
I’ve been trying to find my fitting in writing music for a while now. This may be the key I needed. Cheers Ray!
Thanks for sharing this Ray! I pay attention to all your theory vids, definitely helps my playing a ton so it's always appreciated. Much love man, stay metal 🤘🏾🔥
11:25 this is what i really want to know, is what is the difference between notes. like to kill the which note do i drop tune to rabbit hole lol.
Ray definitely isn’t appreciated enough imo thanks for this lesson! Really informative
That was a really cool and informative video! Thanks Ray 👍
Glad you liked it!
Kool I need this. I will say you understand your theory preety well
Love you Ray!
i like to think of it like grabbing 4 pencils and writing your name with all of em simultaneously. your name shows up in 4 different spots and might even be different colors but its still your name.
Love the content man
hey thanks so much!
Funny how similar u and I look at the fretboard.. I'm a shape kinda guy aa well.. I do stay within the confines of whatever scale I'm using whether it be phrygian Dorian or minor or whatever.. only thing I'd throw in here is that the note names do matter when going to harmonize my riffs. Or writing bridges or other parts to my jams.. just in terms of playing them on other areas of the fretboard. Cool video though. Very informative
Excellent lecture!
great video dude, thank you very much
"Standard tuning isnt exciting in metal" [looks at my thrash album collection where 90% of it is standard] lies lol
Hahah fair enough
@@xanderraymondcharles nah, I get it. Even I'm like "you know, this song would be badass even just half step down" sometimes Lol
Just listen to sylosis albums in standard, heavy as it gets. I look at it like low tuned is physically literally heavy based on pitch but e standard riffs are more psychologically heavy. Or something like that.
35-40 years ago was still sounding fresh. I think If most metal bands today used standard we would just say they’re ripping off the old metal riffs and can’t create anything new. So we downtuned to make it sound different. It’s really really hard to be creative in standard tuning without instantly going back to the 80s, I find anyway 🤷🏽♂️🙂. Some guys can still make it sound exciting but most can’t, we’ve been hearing guitar riffs in standard or Eb for sooooo long after a while it all sounds the same. Same thing will happen in a few years with everyone drop tuning and we’ll have to figure out something else to keep it exciting 😉
@@patrickolivier1 sounds like a they problem lol and there are thrash metal bands that are relatively new; Havok being my favorite. As for copying, you could argue that's a personal problem on the players end. I don't see a difference between standard and B standard. From a physical standpoint, anyway; chord shapes are exactly the same. I basically play the same style regardless of tuning. Except, obviously, open tunings. Just saying, really damn hard to make speed metal in an open tuning lol
Love these theory videos 🤘🔥🔥🤘
Good video sounds great audio. Playing guitar.
Hey thank you so much!
U rock buddy. Good lesson~
Ik this video is old but I'm having problems. On E standard, Playing 5th fret is an A, up 2 strings and up 2 frets is an octave of A, but on Drop C, 5th fret is an F, up 2 strings and up 2 frets is a G?? So wouldn't that mess up scale and chord shapes too? Meaning music theory is different for every tuning?
Handy dandy drop pedal got me good lol
I know this is from a year ago, but what drop tune pedal are you using? is it that digitech one? thanks. great video!!!! very helpful.
I like b standard but dude going to standard E for thrash is the way love it
Great video Ray! this actually helped me understand easier than most guides out there!
Anyone got a good metal pedal to use if you one only has a combo amp (Fender GT100)?
Beautiful les paul! What kinda pickups are in them?
Everywhere else I've been trying to learn this is super confusing and everyone say everything else still don't get it at all
Nothin better than the Open Zero Chug. That’s a good name for a song
What kind of pitch shifter are you using?
Les Paul is really nice.
That floods outro surprised me
Hey Ray, What kind of picks do you use the most? I’m trying to experiment with my picks and picking technique
Good voice
Check out chevelle to see a cool baritone guitar player 😎
Just starting on getting into drop running and I’m told is not good on a regular 25.5 scale guitars but I noticed baritones are a lil pricey… any suggestions on a affordable good brand for me a beginner on drop tuning
Depends on how low you want to go. But, Harley Benton would be a great starting point. Very cheap and they’re solid
@@xanderraymondcharles I have a solar with Evertune but 25.5 scale will Evertune help for that or still better off getting a longer scale?
in punk you don’t even need to know how to play
The Steve Jones approach haha
@@xanderraymondcharles more like the Sid Vicious approach, Steve could play 😂
Just one power chord
Just learn a fuck ton of metallica for standard and learn through improvisation then go to drop d and learn lamb of god, trivium and like any other difficult riffs and boom drop tuned
Wait, you can use a pedal to get to all these tunings ?? What pedal is this ?
Digitech drop pedal
I need to disagree with you Ray on Standard tunings so many Heavy metal bands use Standard tunings from Metallica to Ozzy ..
This video makes me sad that I had to sell my guitar recently due to funds. Otherwise I'd have it out and playing along with this
Standard tuning is not the coolest to play in metal??? Someone should let the the Big 4 know that 🤘🏼
From what original music I've heard from you I can tell you no music theory even with metal
Ive never used theory. Over complicates it for me.
your comments section is full of scam on every comment man!! but just stay high ray thats more important right?! 🧟
Gibson going out of tune
Typical Gibson