I have a Guitar Center less than one mile from me and I have not been in there years because all it has is cheap ass crap and unhappy employees that really do not know their stuff. I have no choice but to go to Sweetwater and buy my stuff and talk to someone I can tell knows their stuff and help guide me to make a choice and not try to sell me a bunch of crap and insurance on my purchase. That whole insurance pressure crap at Guitar Center is lame and a total turn off
You see no flagship equipment Nothing on display and Guitar Center is right in the next neighborhood so I go to " pianos and stuff" Which is 3 neighborhoods away from me yeah Where you can see and feel what something looks like before you buy it
Sorry to hear about your GC being su h a disaster. The here in my hometown in Arvada, Colorado is fricken awesome. I can't say about drums, but in guitars and gear, they are the best, and have gone there now about 25yrs now. They carry every guitar you could possibly want, high end, to the entry level stuff this dude was talking about. I've had nothing but shit experience in dealing w Sweetwater, they are terribly overpriced, and will fleece you if your not watchful on delivery costs. I will never buy a guitar again that I cannot touch and play before I buy it. The one time I did the guitar, which was used was in horrible condition, and not what was represented. I returned it and eventually got most of the money I spent, but it was a massive headache, and took weeks to resolve. Hopefully this new CEO gets all the stores turned around. What have you bought from Sweetwater? Did they make you pretty good deal?
My local Guitar Center has made a complete 180 in the past two months. Two months ago, I went to go buy a ride cymbal that I found in their used listings online. My father-in-law and I went into the drum room and it was a complete disaster. Last week I went in there and it was completely redone. The stock was much better, and they had somebody in there that actually knew what they were talking about. When I asked about the improvements, they said corporate was making a lot of big changes and improving almost everything that they can afford to improve. Overall, the entire store was much nicer than it had been in over a decade. Hopefully, this is a sign of good things to come.
I hope so, too. Guitar Center of the 80s and 90s was awesome and I've missed them ever since the "pivot" away from "serious, gigging musicians" to additional focus on the entry level of the market. I worked my way to my undergraduate degree as a vocalist and lead guitarist in a Southern California cover band form 1983 to 1987. The decline in demand for live music in bars and at bar mitzvahs and bar association banquets didn't affect me, but it started to impact friends in other bands, and to me, the writing was on the wall. In '88, I got in to playing in church. My needs as a live performance musician didn't miraculously change because the venue said "church" outside instead of having a sign saying "cocktails." What was meant to benefit the player I used to be in '87 also benefited me as the player I became in '88. But as Guitar Center focused more and more on the bedroom player and less and less on the public performer kind of player, and continued to move the product mix toward entry level, it was apparent that I didn't exist to them, so they need not exist to me. I hope they get it back together. A re-incarnation of 1980s Guitar Center would be MARVELOUS and a boon to church musicians like me.
Went to the store in Knoxville yesterday. You can tell things are changing already. They installed a mic locker absolutely full of mics. It was a beautiful thing and what we used to see from them. So let’s keep our fingers crossed
Whenever I go into Guitar Center, it takes me 10 minutes to find what I need and 45 minutes for some bored and disgruntled GC counterboy to ring me up.
They aren’t making money and the company could give two shits about their employees. I spent 11yrs working there and they absolutely DGAF about their employees. Lack of staffing and lack of training.
Thanks Barry! I’ve had decent luck buying use gear from the GC website. Not all of it was tested thoroughly and had to send it back. Unlike Music-Go-Round that pays for return shipping on their use gear, you eat the shipping costs at GC. Gabe, please train the folks who describe and list the products on your company’s website. It appears that some of the items that are listed are named incorrectly. Sometimes the listing photos are of something totally different than the description. Who’s checking their work?
I was at Guitar Center Sherman Oaks, CA today to get a few things. Always love jamming on the keyboards 🎹 💜 Been going to that one for over 25 years and will still always.
@@lepidoptera9337 I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. On Monday I bought an Arturia MicroFreak from the Northridge CA location which is my second closest one. I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂 I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save a little bit more. If my GCs don't have anything I want I order online. It's that simple.
@@lepidoptera9337 I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂 On Monday I bought a new Arturia MicroFreak from my second closest location in Northridge, CA. I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save more with the amount of spending I do. When GC doesn't have anything I want I buy online. It's that simple. They are showing some improvements in store to layouts and inventory. Saw a Teenage Engineering K.O. II there which was shocking, in a good way.
@@lepidoptera9337 I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂 On Monday I bought a new Arturia MicroFreak from my second closest location at the Northridge, CA. I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save more with the amount of spending I do. When GC doesn't have anything I want I buy online. It's that simple. They are showing some improvements in store to layouts and inventory. Saw a Teenage Engineering K.O. II there which was shocking, in a good way.
@lepidoptera9337 I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂 On Monday I bought a new Arturia MicroFreak from my second closest location at the Northridge, CA. I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save more with the amount of spending I do. When GC doesn't have anything I want I buy online. It's that simple. They are showing some improvements in store to layouts and inventory. Saw a Teenage Engineering K.O. II there which was shocking, in a good way.
Local family owned music store is crushing GC. You can’t treat your customers as poorly as GC does. I used to get a pro discount on everything I bought there and their “Pro,Audio” dept has turned into “Amateur Beat Maker/DJ with an attitude” and shit gear. I don’t appreciate getting treated like dirt by some high school drop out with an infected lip piercing and gross gauges in their ears. I used to go in and listen to studio monitors, play with preamps, hear new pa boxes etc.…now it’s just the cheapest shit, and only 1 or 2 brands. They no longer care about long time pros like me. Only Billy and Suzie’s mom and dad that will buy a cheap guitar amp and sign a contract for their lessons. That’s the GC model. Now guys like me who spend $50k per year or more on gear go to Sweetwater or buy used. I only go to GC as a last resort. And I feel sick in my soul every time I do. There is a GC about 10 mins away from my commercial studio and I only go after kicking and screaming like a 3 Yr old in a grocery store.
I just want to say the music 🎶 stories i grew up in like the speir music company in Dallas TX are no longer around but the guitar center in North Dallas is awesome they have great gear / Jamie parks studio
I used to work at GC in Sherman Oaks CA. What a wast of time !!! My worst 4 weeks working at that retail. The training was NONE… nada.. first day they made me work in the storage room just for the sake of it. Loading off the courier track !! It was undignified because I was 50 y/o and hired because of my long experience in studios and clientele. Then no one train me with the system , the software they use with purchases, etc so i was oblige to share all of my sales. Commission was ridiculous and the promise of “you gonna know people in the industry “ was really lame. Finally day 30 i quit, I took a number of a pastor that wanted a PA system for the church and follow that contact. At the end the church paid me $500 for one day of Set Up.
And the church also gave you health insurance, right? And the next day another church paid you another $500, didn't they? And so that's all cool now because you are maintaining the PA system at all 700 churches in your neighborhood. Oh, wait... you aren't.
@@lepidoptera9337 well ..GC=!no health insurance because we all were below the hours required by law. But the good part is YES , not maintaining every week but I started playing Sundays and Thursdays and teaching audio production for that specific church and another smaller. GC is 💩 job. Thanks for replying
@@danyavilaoficial OK, then you got what you asked for... but what you asked for is not a real job. A proper job is full hours plus benefits... which you still don't have. I do, by the way, know what the life of a musician looks like. I am the son of one. Sometimes my Mom went hungry so I didn't have to. Thanks for your understanding. (And, yes, I love my Dad, I just don't want to be him.) ;-)
👍🤠it's me again, but you have the right idea to ask the public/customers on their views of what I s needed, and just like when in that movie " Falling Down," 🤔"Mr.Michael Douglas told the "Whammy Burger Manager" if he had ever heard of the expression" The Customer is always right" but you have to see the movie clip inorder to see what I am talking about. But Guitar Center is still good, good products and good prices, cool gear for the struggling musicians out there, it's just feeling unwelcome could be your bigger problem because musicians love to show off and brag in a most humble about what they know l,how much they know and they wanna test your knowledge at times. But I get it sometimes people get tired 😴 f the same b.s. but sometimes you have to fake that smile to make them feel cool 😎 and welcomed.
Barry, I have to disagree with you about Guitar Center, at least the store ive been going to for about 22 years now in Arvada, Colorado. Ive lost count of how many guitars, basses, amps/cabs and all sorts of the supporting stuff, cables, picks, pedals, etc.. I dont buy the "entry level stuff" you talk about, ive bought at least a dozen or more Les Pauls, some Fender Strats, Vox amps, Marshall amps and cabs etc... They have had people come and go over the years, as any retail store would, specifically one like Guitar Center. I dont know if these stores are all company stores or if they are franchised. Honestly ive never looked in to it. What i can say is this store is by far the best, in everything ive needed in sales, theyve always carried an unbelievable amount guitars in all styles, shapes and sizes, and they are licensed dealers of virtually all the major guitar and amp manufacturers that im aware of. Theyve always met anyones price, and go even below it, and i have made some killer deals on guitars and amps. Ill use just my last purchase 4 weeks ago. I bought one of these Epiphone Hummingbird Acoustic Inspired by Gibson. These guitars were being built by just one Luthier start to finish in the Indonesian Gibson custom shop. I dont know about the sister Co. Gibson acoustics but the Epiphone has since moved operations to, big surprise, China. So these guitars built in Indonesia are getting very scarce, as there are many differences in the guitars from the Indonesian shop, than those now from China. Ive watched all the reviews on the guitar which have all been amazing, even garnering better playing and tone than its sister Co. Gibson, Taylor, Martin, etc... As i said the guitars built in Indonesia getting harder and harder to find. Well my Guitar Center got just 1. I simply lucked out just during my occasional checks around since i decided to buy one, and they had one that had just came off their truck that afternoon and hadnt even been unpacked yet. I got to the store, and after looking at my account, and seeing my history sold me the guitar with taxes etc.. out the door for just under 800.00. They could easily get 1000.00 and some change easily, you just cant find these. Fast forward 5 weeks and i bring the guitar in after getting ready to lower the action on the string height, as i like it to be as low as possible without any fret buzz, when i noticed the Bridge/saddle looked off. It was coming up off the guitar. Come to find out this has been a known problem with this guitar, and other Gibson acoustics, because they are gluing the bridges down on top of the finish on the guitar not preping the surface to unsure a good adhesion. Long story short they took it in, fixed the problem, set the action as i like, and put a great set of strings to boot. Ive heard some pretty bad stories about Guitar Center, but in certainly hasnt been my experience, at all.
I have a crazy story. Guitar Center employees just got mad at me because I asked if they could order me a Behringer System 55. Guy looked at me angry. System 55 is 1,250% cheaper than Moog System 55. That means Guitar Center wants me to pay 1,250% Margin for some wood trim? I have a new found respect for Behringer. If the profit margin was only 100% cheaper I would say what Behringer did was wrong, but 1,250% margin is highway robbery. Thank you Behringer. Moog and Guitar Center need to explain why they hate Behringer so much.
Was just in one of my local GC's, we have 5 here in the Phoenix area and as Barry said I was ready to leave as soon as I walked in. They don't even carry hi-end cables in the stores any longer, and God forbid if you need a piece of gear right away (forget about it!!!) I am also a DJ, if I am in need of a new stylus I am S.O.L. make sure you keep back-up needles my fellow vinyl purists!!! online orders only. I recall being able to walk into a GC and being able to buy at least 90% of your studio (HI-END) in store. I can go on for days however I will stop here!
🤔my name is Jacob,and I like Guitar Center. I don't shop like I used to because I can't afford it anymore, but Guitar Center is still nice and affordable. Good quality 🎸 guitars and amps at an affordable price. And they have expensive stuff on the shelf as well. But here in America, their are more poor-struggling musicians than rich musicians that have money to buy expensive gear or whatever, I don't think that's the problem with Guitar Center, but in my opinion, you might wanna tweak around with your employees/personnel. Because you have customers full of pride going into guitar center to spend their hard earned money, but if that customer doesn't feel loved or appreciated because the employee didn't really make them feel welcome, then he or she is going to your mom/pop's local music store to give them money instead of giving it to Guitar Center, all because the guitar center employees did not help that "Rock Star" feel welcome. I think that is really the problem. So customers will leave you because you did not make them feel welcome. "If you get what I mean" April 29,2024a.d.🤔🧐🤠
My prediction: nothing but social media posts showing females playing guitar/drums, and constant bragging about how they are “saving the planet” by recycling etc. Thats what every other music focused site/company does.
Social justice virtue signalling has been disastrous, just let a person's talent speak for itself instead of shoving forced inclusion down our throats while lowering the bar for those who haven't earned the opportunity
@@jasondorsey7110 Im sure we all agree that everyone is and should be included if they so desire. But throttling every company with this BS is a mob tactic. You cannot change human instinct. You cannot change what is true.
My Guitar Center is horrid! The understaffed and you cannot get out of there if you are selling gear in a reasonable time! I was there over 1 hr trying to get a deal done and i watched 3 customers leave for lack of service. Also the guys working there cannot handle high volume. They need to also QUIT TRYING TO BUY YOUR GEAR AT ROCK BOTTOM PRICES and bring back layaways. All in all they are horrid.
I have had exactly the same experience. As a basis, I feel that Guitar Center has completely forgotten me. I have never walked in there and found instruments in good shape, a good selection, a well stocked store… It’s just not happening. Sure hope it changes.
@@andreamorse6064 Zero. The number of expensive guitars the average musician buys at a Guitar Center is zero. Why? Because the average musician doesn't have money. How do I know? My Dad was a musician. My Mom sometimes went hungry so I didn't have to. ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337 well, this is a very personal thing for you of which I completely understand. I am single, have been well employed all of my life and have made a good living. I own many expensive instruments as well as a equipped and fully functioning studio. I guess I am the outlier who often goes to Guitar Center with the expectation of spending over $1000, sometimes over $2000. So it’s very disappointing not to have any local stores that have reason to sell any good quality instruments. I hope you are no longer struggling for sufficient sustenance. Best regards.
I’ll never never never ever deal with guitar center again in my life! They are the worst people to deal with! The customer service was terrible! What they offered me on a guitar plus case was an insult! Basically here’s a penny for the case and will just take what’s inside! Have a nice day!! Yeah …I walked right on out with guitar in hand! So screw you guitar center, I can only hope you change or just close you’re doors!
Guitar Center reminds me of going back to high school, it truly sucks . I must also include in my evaluation of Sweetwater it truly sucks too. I give value to Vintage King however I find your employment for Sweetwater quite annoying you sound like an employee I thought you had more jams than that
Ive been to 4 different GCs in the last year or so for minor needs. It became very obvious it is a perpetual sinking ship. The floor staff lacks people skills, knowledge, and professionalism. The experience with their guitar techs was subpar, to say the least. Ive been making large purchases with Sweetwater for years because of the culture of customer importance. Not to mention a better selection and prices. Its going to take a LOT for me to ever set foot in a GC ever again.
Sweetwater is like Amazon. They operate a large warehouse in Fort Wayne, Indiana. A physical retailer will have a very hard time competing with them in terms of cost. Maybe Guitar Center can learn something from Best Buy. They somehow managed to survive the retail Amazoncalypse by matching prices... but I don't know if that model is even remotely transferable from tvs and whiteware to instruments. I think the way Best Buy did it was by generating custom SKUs (i.e. small variants of models that are exclusive to them) that were usually simplified (fewer inputs on tvs for instance) compared to the model for general sale. I think that would require Guitar Center to make contracts with manufacturers to produce Guitar Center specials. That could be custom paint jobs or necks or something. Something that stands out without raising cost much.
I am sorry. that last bit is just horrible advice. Look, I like Sweerwater as well, but to tell viewers not to buy from Guitar Center until they turn themselves around is just terrible advice. They won't turn anything around without sales. This turn around is gonna take a year to three years and if there isn't any sales in the meantime it won't happen. Good customers buy from a business, great customers buy from every busines, just like you don't eat from just one restaurant.
Sweetwater is moonwalking over all the competition with only one physical location. However; it's not just that. It's the wide selection of gear. Want an entry level Focusrite Scarlett - they got it. Want a PRISM audio interface - they got it. Two year warranty included, free 2 day shipping and sales engineers who actually know about gear. I would love to see GC turn it around as competition is only better for us consumers.
@@AyoMillz i went to Sweetwater two weeks ago. Whole place was spotless… every guitar was set up and in tune, and the staff were excited and eager to help people. All the amps were plugged in too! The salesman put me in a demo room and sent the warehouse guys to grab a couple guitars for me that werent on the floor. He then takes them out of the boxes snd tunes them before bringing them to me. Ive never seen this level of service at GC. Bought a $2500 guitar on the spot. A week later I run to my local gc and ask the guy “do you have any 9-46 DR sets?” He says “strings are over there” Yup.
They need to go in and revaluate the stores managers, cause my old store’s managers were Horrible!!!! They didn’t appreciate their employees, especially the 40+ year old ones with countless years of experience. As a repair tech, they wanted me to pull wool over the customers eyes and lie about their repairs to push the up charge/up sale. I didn’t do it and eventually got the boot after a year of winning over customers with my trust and workmanship.
I totally agree with you regarding Guitar Center! It was the musicians amusement park one time. I spent thousands and thousands there from drums to acoustic guitars to electric guitars to bass guitars to congas and percussion to amps to audio, etc. But as you pointed out, the quality of equipment has dramatically dropped over the decades. My last 7 piece drum kit I bought was at Sam Ash and my 9 new cymbals and a club jam drum kit I got from Sweetwater. One thing you failed to point out about Sweetwater was the absolute quality of their sales engineers! GC needs to replace all their wannabes with real musicians and audiophiles, and provide mandatory ongoing training. Sweetwater nailed it there! GC also needs to up their game online and price their products competitively! Can they do it, I want to say yes, but corporate culture takes years if not decades to change. Will they have enough time, sadly I’m not sure.
That's all cool, "pros", but how many of you are actually buying a $7k base from guitar center? Yes, you might be LOOKING, but you don't have the money to BUY. It's the Mom and Dad who want their kids to learn an instrument who are buying that $300 guitar plus accessories plus a few lessons. They are keeping that place alive, not you.
Last week, I noticed my local Guitar Center completely revamped their store layout, placing all their premium guitars (fender/gibson) and lineups within arms reach. They've also set up boutique guitar pedals, plugged in and ready play with quarter-inch cables. I have to hand it to them, it's a much better experience and akin to why people still prefer going to Best Buy instead of shopping online - they want to test out products firsthand before making significant purchases.
I hate shopping online. I like to pop up, get what I want and leave. I been trying to get a compressor for years with them. I always go there first but it’s never there. So I go on Facebook shop or a pawnshop. I’m 36 years old
Guitar Center is done. I remember when it put all the thriving Mom and Pop stores out of business back in the 90s and 00s. Sweetwater and the remaining Mom and Pops on Reverb have taken its place. I was a faithful GC customer when I lived in LA back in the 80s. I hope you spend more time showing what you are doing with the gear you have rather than turning every video into a Sweetwater spot...
Hi Barry. This is Gabe Dalporto, CEO of Guitar Center. Thanks for your video and commentary. We have a ton of work to do to achieve the vision I set out. Things don't change overnight. We're starting with 20 pilot stores, and learning how to do it right. Then we'll be rolling out to the rest of our stores. So please be a little patient but we will get there.
Good luck Gabe .. retail is not an easy task these days. There was a comment above from a viewer that struck a chord. Support the local musicians in the areas of each store with events and venue to preform. Maybe a place to make demos to. 🤷♂️ think outside the box .
GC is great to visit, but it often doesn't have what I want. I walk in, enjoy browsing, and then go home and order from Sweetwater. I want fresh Boveda packs. I love mid-priced great quality Indonesian made guitars, which are the best value in the market right now. I have a modest collection of guitars which I love, and for my collection, I bought a Silver Sky SE last year, during their great sale event. GC didn't even have any!! I couldn't play one in the local GC store at all -- which is crazy because the entire SE line except for the DGT was on sale for 4 months! The SS SE I ended up buying at another retailer wasn't a demo -- it hadn't been hanging on a wall for umpteen teenaged boys to bang around before I got there, and it was in perfect condition right out of the box. I love it, and every time I pick it up I think of that experience, not GC. NB: GC needs imagination. What's being suggested is too old hat, still "in the box." Do some focus groups with a larger variety of people; you might get some very productive unusual suggestions. And get some consumer data and pay attention to it. GC has some absolutely huge advantages over Sweetwater, etc, but it seems like GC doesn't recognize its own power or how to use it.
Good luck Gabe! I truely hope you succeed and bring GC back to its grand roots! The road won’t be easy, but it looks like one of your competitors is soon to be gone after 100 years. th-cam.com/video/TKxtNBwC9TM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZxULv3pMsbAm4ZFk
The overall health of the musical instrument industry drives sales to a degree. A symbiotic relationship between manufactures, sellers ,and the customers. No cost solution, prompt a survey for your hourly associates to discuss items they would be excited to see, i.e. partnered limited runs, exclusives, and improvements to existing product to provide feedback to manufacturers. All I've seen is cost go up and quality go down, rehashing the same stuff like a bad Hollywood remake. The entire industry needs a shot of adrenaline, but seems to be out of touch with what the consumer wants. Is rock n roll dead? Maybe. Dying, definitely. Beating a dead horse? Turn it into a radioactive supercharged zombie stallion. I'd buy one.
Andrew Scheps has done mixes on $99 Sony headphones. One can buy a great Motu interface for $200. A $30-40 Joyo analog amp sim pedal can hold its own. An SM57 is a great mic and often sufficient for even vocals. In other words, "junk" can get the job done.
I think Sam Ash and Guitar Center should merge. Shut down stores with low foot traffic; and get rid of the lazy, useless, employees. Both stores need to have a better quality/variety of merchandise. More products on display so people can try before we buy an instrument/equipment. That’s the one thing stores have over online…try it out first, take it home and use it the day you bought it!!!
Well if guitar center in Roy Utah hiers quality employees who are musicians and understand equipment to sell and have a room with high-quality pro equipment for the more advanced players 🤔
GC does not understand how to hire qualified sales staff. Most employees have limited product knowledge and no experience in music. The training modules are ridicules. They are brand focused instead of teaching about how the product is used. GC requires their vendors to teach and train their employees and there will always be a bias with that approach. I call it the copy and paste syndrome. It is very important for manufactures to provide training, but that should not be the end all. I trained GC stores on a national level for 12 years (I did not work for GC, I worked for a manufacture), and the new employee turn-over rate was 21 days. I found that most new employees only worked their because they thought it would help them become a rockstar. I'm not joking, I have thousands of stories from my training days. The company needs to figure out that just because someone bought a guitar, that does not make them the best candidate for employment. It's a sales job that requires knowledge of the music industry. I still find most Southern California GC locations staff are very ignorant regarding product knowledge, and how it applies to the customer's needs. Not all, there are some who know their way around a mixing board or what wood is used on the front of an acoustic guitar, but the majority are clueless.
Good job Private Equity Firm: it was a sad day in Sam's Club when I saw an Alesis logo on a cheap consumer-level arranger keyboard. What an inspiration it would be on many levels if Gabe can clean up the mess and turn around Guitar Center!
Times have changed, before the ubiquity of the internet and TH-cam, retail and physical locations were the primary way to sell. Purchasing products in todays world is now matter of putting an item in an Amazon shopping cart. How about guitar center to consolidate their 275 ish locations to just one or two in high volume cities, packed with the good stuff while revamping their online presence. Stop charging shipping on used gear We have over 6 GC in lower Michigan. They’re great if you want a starter strat but horrible if you want anything else of higher quality and likely you’ll have to order it.
Amazon, sweetwater + people doing live TH-cam reviews to properly showcase gear, that’s destroying all need for a guitar center middleman. I believe boys in charge need to accept the fact that no perfect 15% - 25% off crap is gonna put them back on top. They need to take the risk and completely change their business structure like Netflix did, and find their new place in this evolving marketplace. For starters, getting highly strategic with events, maybe converting building into jam session centers where each instrument section can live jam with the other, or a whole lot more social media influence, and brand new customer service endeavors, all of that could help.
We need a unique reason to enter your store again. The reason was there before the internet obsession, but now that it’s not, it just needs to be recreated.
The more I listen to this post Mr Barry , the more I chuckle . There aren’t as many people playing instruments these days compared to 1974 ? ? For real ? 😳 There is an exponential amount of new musicians playing today in 2024 , some 50 years later . There are more younger bands , more music stores , the internet to make purchases and learn from . . That’s a bizarre statement to say the least . I think we’re done here 😊
From a drummer's perspective there is ONE area in particular that a music retailer must excel at..... CYMBAL SELECTION. Ideally the retailer will stock 2-3 of the same make, model and size of premium level cymbals on their wall since rarely do 2 cymbals sound exactly the same... and notwithstanding on-line retailers who feature "buy THIS cymbal" video samples.... there is no substitute for sampling it yourself without the gee-whiz sound processing that Sweetwater, Memphis and others manipulate the true sound with. It's too bad.... because Guitar Center HAS the walk-in location piece of this already in place but has squandered the opportunity.... at least where I live. Over the years I've come to the reality that I have to.... but happily so..... drive 2 hours from Sacramento to Fresno to Bentley's Drum Shop to experience (key word in retailing) a great selection and customer service that is second to none. It's never been a trip that disappointed so if you're within tolerable driving distance.... check out Dana Bentley's in Fresno!
Been disappointed in GC for some time for most reasons you mentioned. The help is NO help. Guitars are not inspected/serviced before going up for display. They will not budge on price if a guitar has some dings. Lousy trade value. The local GC here has a high end damaged Taylor acoustic/electric guitar hanging on the wall with a cracked top (looks like it may have been dropped) and electronics don't work. Price tag $1,300 ! Junk as far as I'm concerned . Someone else looking at it offered a much lower price. Sales person said "that's the price" and walked away. You get better instruments, service, trades at local mom/pop / non big box music stores. I seek out those places and that's where I buy my guitars. The other plus is.... these smaller stores are a nicer place to hang out with other musicians. The owners are friendly and willing to accommodate. My personal experience with one smaller store was when my amp gave me trouble and needed a replacement for a gig the next day. At the time, they really didn't know me. They gave me a similar NEW amp to use while my amp was being serviced. Didn't even take my credit card ! The fellow said "just be careful with it and bring it back after your gig" (which I did). Who does that ! !??? NOT GC that's for sure. 🎸🎸🎸🎸 BTW, I've since bought some nice high end guitars and other gear from this store and also did well on trades.
Leave it up to guitar center to NOT carry a reamp box, headrush pedal board, more than 2 telecasters, amp power soaker or anything to do with the times. They always say the same thing "we can order it for you" well I can do that lol. Hopefully things will change for the better.
I live in Canada where LONG AND MCQUADE is our big National retailer. They are Canadian family owned and they are a damn good retailer. Prices are high yes, as everywhere, but there are 4 L&M stores here in my city- North, South , East and West, and they are stocked to the ceiling with everything from used to entry level to high end and even some rare and vintage gear. It's a guitar geeks smorgasboard. Their music lessons are sold out and they NEED more guitar teachers.
GC I go to in Villa Park, IL recently started to lock up some of the guitars... How disappointing and unwelcoming. Knowing that I'll take 20 min to get an associate to unlock one for you to try, then you feel like nahhh let's get outta here!!!
Guitar Center mostly has “ entry level junk “ ? ? What GC do YOU go to ? Go to the GC at 2633 N Halsted in Chicago and say hello to Trent and ask him if the glassed room on the left is all entry level junk . Then take a walk around the entire store including the acoustic room . You have no idea what you are taking about bro . No idea . 🤷♀️
Some GC Sales people, online or in store, have been real helpful with good service. On the other hand, GC is a mess at the company level, and does crap like nonstop send you USED items when you purchased NEW. It's almost comical at this point: all the plugins will be registered on an interface by someone else, obvious dirt and handling all over microphones, etc etc.
GC started with shady business from day one. It’ll never change. I’ve seen the company chew people up and spit them out at all levels. Don’t even get me started on GCPro. It’s a culture of vultures all the way through…
Retail chains don’t work. Everything’s Internet now. And I think everyone agrees and knows that. The people who wanna start playing the guitar are mostly novices with a dream. There are many people out there who go through this phase. That is guitar centers, customer and that’s why the name of the store has guitar in it. There is no reason to carry high gear out of place like that that’s geared towards the masses. What you’re talking about is a boutique audio shop who has a special relationship with the equipment they sell. Again, that does not work on a mass scale, and you cannot scale it.especially when you live in the world is made by monoprice and you can get everything cheaper online.
Having an affordable selection is wise, of course like old music shops, you might have the new shiny sections, but you need shit for the common folk, too.
You can’t totally crap on Guitar Center without really understanding the landscape of the music industry and the art of music. It is unfortunate that we as a society do not appreciate art anymore. It is unfortunately all about revenues and yeah, the revenues have increased again in the music industry, but the music as a whole is horrible and you could see this by the number of streams going down every year for new music and going up for past artist.. It’s only a selective group of current mainstream artist that are getting the majority of the stream and that’s being pushed by these major labels. For Guitar Center to regain its luster it is imperative that they try to recapture the feeling of the art and making music like it was in the late 90s and early 2000s just as much as it is to sell great gear and those are not necessarily synonymous. It is about the artist to make people care about the music again and not this generic AI crap that we are getting. Creativity and the expression of the human experience is key.
Napster and Apple and TH-cam have sucked much of the profit out of the music industry and it trickles down to everyone. It’s far harder to make a living as a musician, it’s far harder to become famous, so serious music is disappearing.
@@peacefulruler1 What are you talking about? It is so far more easier to get known as an independent artist between TH-cam and TikTok..... Rich men North of Richmond was #1 last year by Oliver Anthony a complete unknown..... Justin Beiber .. so was Jacob Collier.... (he isn't serious music?).... All of them discovered on TH-cam..... Tik Tok is so powerful all the majors try to push their artist on there to promote. So many unknown artist are discovered there the problem is their art is eh on the ones that go viral. There has never been a. better time to be an independent artist to make, distribute and be visible with your music. The problem is the revenue portion is broken. Streaming companies, TH-cam and Apple have hamstrung how much they will pay because the RIAA and the Majors negotiated the terms to benefit themselves and not the artists. You can try and tour but because the concerts and venues are so expensive kids rather spend money on a festival where they can spend the same amount of money and see 30 to 40 acts over 3 days. The future is direct to customer and as an artist you should aim to get 300 to 500 fans that really support you, between social media, merch, and small venue clubs if you can grow that to 10-20K world wide you can make more money that ever being a signed artist. The issue is can you make your music and run it like a business because the old model is dead. Web3 and direct to customer is the future.
Problem with GC, is management and the CEO don’t understand music, musicians and the market. They only understand sales. GC was something 2 decades ago, but it has become a dump to sale old used gear. I just came back from one today. Can’t even get D’Addario bass strings. All basses hanging on the walls are Squiers and the poor kid attending doesn’t know what’s going. All of this, is a result of poor decisions and poor management. Idk that GC can make a comeback. The online stores are the new tesla dealers, you kind of have to trust them with what you want and trust that they know what they’re talking about.
They should use their influence to help promote bands that actually play their own instruments. Also, it would be nice if they would offer PLEKING Service
I work for Guitar Center, and especially the Pro Audio section in our store has a lot of lower end, more budget end stuff. I'd love to see a lot more higher end gear, less KRK and more Focal. Less Gemsound, more Shure. Hoping Gabe can help out.
Alto music was able to overnight me a pulse 16 mx after realizing they disnt have it in stock. They ran all over the place and made it happen direct from their distributor. Had it the next morning. My first experience with alto was phenomenal.
I hope you don’t mind me creating a video talking about the same thing I use to be and employee at Sam Ash, Medley Music and Guitar Center, so I also have some ideas on what can make Guitar Center go back to its roots.
So true, walk in there are no hi-end audio interfaces on display, bass guitar section on complete suck mode, and most other sections are short in their options.
Hopefully GC can finally get it together. I haven't been to mine in many years and it's literally 5 mins away. Seems like most or all of them kept going downhill. Thanks for sharing your thought Barry!! Much ❤ BJ!!
The Grunge movement in the '90s did wonders for srores like Guitar Center. After Nirvana you had a whole lot of people who decided to learn to play and started their own bands. Where I grew up and lived most of my life, the Pacific Northwest, it seemded everyone I knew was in a band. Even then Guitar Center had some decent gear but some was garbage. I like being able to try out a guitar or a amp before I buy it. Now most Guitar Centers are gone. Sweetwater and Reverb dominate the market. Jopefully the new GC CEO will bring in quakity gear, hire knowledgable people, and allow space to try out the gear. I know there will probably still be a sign that says, "No Stairway to Heaven" in the area to try out guitars and amps. But that is for the benefit of all of us.
No, it's the wrong move..Guitarists are realising the quality of the squiers and even infinitys. The CNC machines have got the necks so good on those that many are just as good as a USA Strat. In this shitty Biden economy, some pros are verry happy with a squier, even for gigs. If the CEO just focuses on the upper line stuff, then the stores will remain a ghost town inside, and it will go bankrupt...again. I am surprised that Gibson is having problems because they are way over priced.
Sorry but the facts don’t match up with most of what you are saying. I agree that fender and PRS especially are making very good guitars in the sub $1200 range. Certainly have handle most needs. That said the work that a CNC Mavhine is going has never been what separates quality but rather efficiency. I am a wood worker and I have made a guitar on my CNC and one without a CNC, all the CNC did for me was give me time to work on other things in the shop while it was doing its work. I plan to do a series of videos for the next guitar I make. The attention to detail on the finish work and the attention to detail. That along with higher quality electronics and hardware are another huge difference. This is why you can make an epiphany would like a LP Standard. I know I’ve tried that twice and said forget it. Some people who don’t have as much experience would probably say they sound the same when they don’t nor do they play the same. Take a LP or a PRS AS AN EXAMPLE, they typically have a sold thick piece of figured maple on top of the mahogany, where as an the others are either a tiny piece veneer simulating the figure. I could name a bunch of differences. Lastly, no they are not for CEO’s nor are they frankly for most young kids in their 20’s. I know a lot of life long blue collar workers that are over 40 that have multiple 4k plus guitars. I’m not a CEO or wealthy, I have over 7 of the. In my studio purchased over the last 20 years. It’s no different than when you’re in your 20s or even 30s for that matter, it’s not likely that the average person will be able to go out and buy a $400,000 house which is not that much these days for a house sadly but it’s true , $60,000 truck, a $35,000 boat plus a vacation. That’s not like that happen when you’re 20s and certainly early 30s unless you happen to have made a lot of money and for that I apologize. Other than that most of us don’t get that stage until we’re over, and then not everyone gets to do that over 40.
@@BarryJohns I am 66 years old now, I remember the starter guitars. I have started an online business to help me buy guitars. When it comes to Gibson,I don't want the extra thickness of the maple top. I always bought the single slab mahoganys like the LP special. I always wanted a Jr. but I don't like the 50's baseball bat neck. the 60's slim taper is me.
I’m the same way, 20, 25 years ago, I loved GC and did tons of business with them. Now when you go into what used to be one of their major stores, it is so empty and the isles are so wide, you could run cattle through there if you wanted. it’s not just absence of the level of gear that I normally purchase, it’s the lack of knowledge by many staff members, who simply don’t know they are stupid. I hope they can turn around the gear portion, but I’m not sure where you find smart people anymore. don’t get me wrong, I’m not talking about ignorance of gear, if you are ignorant you can learn about gear, I’m talking about the type who will approach from a standpoint of great wisdom and knowledge, but they really don’t know what they are talking about. Example, I had some 20-year-old kid salesman arguing with me that Martin D-18s were made from Rosewood, not mahogany.
I was there when guitar center and other big box music retailers shut down the mom and pop and boutique retailers. I fell for it and became a big box retail fan. Since the demise of guitar center, a lot of those shops have come back and are doing well. I am not making the same mistake twice. I only buy high end gear from the folks that work hardest for my business, and those are the ones with families to feed just like me. So no, I don’t care what GC does. I am not going back.
Does anyone do a mail order guitar rental service yet? You know, rent and Ibanez for a monthly fee and then 9 months later when your sick of it trade it for something else available
Agree 100%. I think GC has missed a really great opportunity to foster musicians who have money to spend by not being open to on-site demos, clubs and meetups who might be able to entice interest in their stock (if they carried quality gear). As someone who is part of a large electronic music community, we're always trying to find places to meet and showcase what we do in a low-key environment. Sam Ash made some progress with their stages, but with many Sam Ash stores getting closed, that option is not going to be around for long. Also, some customer service training for staff would go a long way to making GC more enjoyable. I'm either met with totally clueless people, or people who think they know everything. Neither extreme is attractive.
Want to know how good my local GC is. They got Tone Master amps.... just kidding. They have literally nothing you might currently see a demo of online. When I was still going there, it was a game to try and find a) non Fender guitars and b) something newer than 3 years old. But my county only has 500k people, so maybe we are not big enough for the good stuff (sarcasm!).
I used live very far from that Guitar Center and I couldn’t wait go there every chance I could and see all those great dreamy guitars. Now I live about 5 minutes from Guitar Center and I don’t even bother to go, unless I need a cable or something small. Every time I go there is the same thing, just junk on the walls So I stop going, if I’m looking for something in particular I just shop on line. And yes that easy enough but there’s nothing like walking into a store and get surprised by something that you were not expecting and be all about it like a new toy.
i'd been a GC customer since 1976, when i think there were only about 4 stores... built relationships with all the sales guys in California... didn't like Sweetwater when they arrived... but GC began to have fast-food-like staff turnover... every month new sales people... reluctantly, i went to SW... and they made me a believer... i've had ONE SW sales rep swap in 25 years!!! i will remember the early GC days fondly, but i don't care if i EVER see them again...
Marketing fact...there will always be more entry level players in a given year. Unfortunately for GC, companies like Donner can retail a quality guitar at half price, or less, at Walmart site. GC are geniuses for even staying in business in this climate.
Hmmm. Maybe I’ll have to give GC one more chance. I’m 67 years old and have purchased thousands of dollars worth of guitars, amps, PA equipment, recording equipment etc over the years. The last time I visited my local GC, i swore it was the last time i would set foot in a GC. I wanted to purchase an inexpensive pedal (around $150) which the store had new in stock. The clerk couldn’t find the box or any of the paperwork that came with the pedal. I asked for a discount the product was incomplete. The clerk dished out attitude and absolutely refused to take anything less than full list price. I walked out and vowed never to waste my time in another GC. Life’s too short.
Really pissed off at GC CEO !! I'm a gigging musician chic and I can't afford these over priced pieces of collector crap gear! It all of us gigging and regular musician loving people and yeah we all should be able to buy instruments but only high priced crap?? Hell with that I'm done with GUITAR CENTER
Barry, I’m new here to your channel, but I build, play and repair. I do all the string instruments in our worship band at church. That being said, when I’m looking for parts and even strings I have to go online from boutique to guitar center they rarely ever have what I need sometime even the right strings especially for basses. I used to exclusively shop at guitar center, but now I more enjoy boutique shops. Also for Gabe to be successful he needs to consider area demographics guitars in Detroit vs Louisville vs Memphis vs Dallas, will probably different you know what I mean. Also I agree the best online guitar store buy far is Sweet Water, reverb used to be great for used gear, but now when you sell they bury you in all kind of expenses. And get this if you sell something over $600.00 they send you a 1099! Now you have to hunt down a receipt to offset the cost of the sale or show a loss. I’m glad I found your channel love the content!
Guitar Center/Musician's Friend saw CompUSA and Radio Shack and said, "let's be that"!!! Then Sweetwater showed everyone how it's done. Guitar Center became GuitarShack. Their sales people know next to nothing and don't give a sh*t. Those who can, do, and those who can't, work in music stores.
I hope they can… I feel a bit of sad and uneasy when I walk into our Guitar center. On life support comes to mind. Makes me not want to stay too long. Sweetwater on the other hand…. We live about 3 hours away. My friend and I make the trip down every few months. It’s such a great and happy place to visit. Check out all the stuff, buy stuff, eat in the company cafe. Meet with our sales rep who’s been there for years and years. Must be a good place to work. Then when we’re home, we can also have a great experience with them online and on the phone. We joke that when you click purchase and then walk to your front porch, the stuff is already there. Chuck and company have spent decades perfecting this Mecca. Going to be hard to compete with such a force.
Gc definitly needs a rehaul the one here in Hollywood has some good stuff and stays pretty busy MOSTLY cause its the only game in town for normal musicians who aren't In the "industry"per se. plus all the mishaps at shows and festivals they get a lot of quick fix visits as well.. they have a solid mic locker as well you can get a 57 OR A NT1 AND A U87 . the sam ash next door is going out of business though if that tells you anything... in my opinion their taking advantage of being the only game in town as far as being a physical place to go . but soon it won't be a sustainable model in smaller towns that don't have constant industry work around it to stay afloat... I think they are in a critical time in their companies journey. they need to double down on people . focus more on instrument lessons/ production courses to engage the talent in the area, battle of the bands competitions/talent shows.... ARTIST MEET & GREETS have disappeared . GC needs to become a staple stop on artists touring/promo runs.. finally I feel like store layout and inventory habits needs to drastically change at this point 75% of the store should be devoted to studio/home production . focus on bringing new products into store faster. so GC can become even more a testing ground to public
It appears that the new CEO has actually made the terms of dealing with GC worse....Their return period went from 90 days to 45 days. For a store that is under staffed and the staff is not very helpful of course they will have returns because the staff does not help with product selection. Also the sales guys work on commission so they get very upset when you return a guitar even if you buy another......because they " take a hit on their pay check" I am quoting a couple of them. Not a happy place like it used to be.
If I were GC, I would put the door person back up front to greet customers and minimize theft, then I would FULLY stock the acoustic guitar section with quality brands like Tayler, Martin, Gibson, Epiphone, Yamaha etc., Then I would go to the electric guitar wall of shame, I mean wall of fame, and start thinning out the heard replacing cheap poorly made guitars with more iconic brands like Fender, Gibson, Music Man, Schecter , just to name a few. I would also allow customers the ability to negotiate price like they were able to back in the day! Then I would educate my staff regarding how to post an effective used guitar add online, one that will get the item sold sooner rather than later. The ad would have to include CLEAR photos of all sides of the guitar and the description must have as many details as possible such as the guitar's make, model number, year produced, country of manufacturer, type of woods used and any applicable electronics/pre-amp types the guitar has. I would also have a consistent grading system like "poor" "good" "very good" "excellent" and "mint" and have set rules on how to rank the guitar properly and using a one inch arrow or something like that in the photos to point out any applicable flaws to insure the highest level of disclosure is achieved. Last of all, I would find out why the website GCdotcom and MFdotcom take so long to load and I would have that fixed. In my opinion these websites should load at least as fast as their competitor's websites! Please note, I am a guitar player which is why this review has a guitar player's bias!
I have a Guitar Center less than one mile from me and I have not been in there years because all it has is cheap ass crap and unhappy employees that really do not know their stuff. I have no choice but to go to Sweetwater and buy my stuff and talk to someone I can tell knows their stuff and help guide me to make a choice and not try to sell me a bunch of crap and insurance on my purchase. That whole insurance pressure crap at Guitar Center is lame and a total turn off
You see no flagship equipment Nothing on display and Guitar Center is right in the next neighborhood so I go to " pianos and stuff" Which is 3 neighborhoods away from me yeah Where you can see and feel what something looks like before you buy it
Sorry to hear about your GC being su h a disaster. The here in my hometown in Arvada, Colorado is fricken awesome. I can't say about drums, but in guitars and gear, they are the best, and have gone there now about 25yrs now. They carry every guitar you could possibly want, high end, to the entry level stuff this dude was talking about.
I've had nothing but shit experience in dealing w Sweetwater, they are terribly overpriced, and will fleece you if your not watchful on delivery costs. I will never buy a guitar again that I cannot touch and play before I buy it. The one time I did the guitar, which was used was in horrible condition, and not what was represented. I returned it and eventually got most of the money I spent, but it was a massive headache, and took weeks to resolve.
Hopefully this new CEO gets all the stores turned around.
What have you bought from Sweetwater? Did they make you pretty good deal?
Remember when you had that "knows their stuff" sales person in the local store?
@@rickeguitar9086 NOt anymore at Guitar Center. Sweetwater does a pretty good job when you talk to them
My local Guitar Center has made a complete 180 in the past two months. Two months ago, I went to go buy a ride cymbal that I found in their used listings online. My father-in-law and I went into the drum room and it was a complete disaster. Last week I went in there and it was completely redone. The stock was much better, and they had somebody in there that actually knew what they were talking about. When I asked about the improvements, they said corporate was making a lot of big changes and improving almost everything that they can afford to improve. Overall, the entire store was much nicer than it had been in over a decade.
Hopefully, this is a sign of good things to come.
I hope so, too. Guitar Center of the 80s and 90s was awesome and I've missed them ever since the "pivot" away from "serious, gigging musicians" to additional focus on the entry level of the market.
I worked my way to my undergraduate degree as a vocalist and lead guitarist in a Southern California cover band form 1983 to 1987. The decline in demand for live music in bars and at bar mitzvahs and bar association banquets didn't affect me, but it started to impact friends in other bands, and to me, the writing was on the wall.
In '88, I got in to playing in church.
My needs as a live performance musician didn't miraculously change because the venue said "church" outside instead of having a sign saying "cocktails." What was meant to benefit the player I used to be in '87 also benefited me as the player I became in '88. But as Guitar Center focused more and more on the bedroom player and less and less on the public performer kind of player, and continued to move the product mix toward entry level, it was apparent that I didn't exist to them, so they need not exist to me.
I hope they get it back together. A re-incarnation of 1980s Guitar Center would be MARVELOUS and a boon to church musicians like me.
Went to the store in Knoxville yesterday. You can tell things are changing already. They installed a mic locker absolutely full of mics. It was a beautiful thing and what we used to see from them. So let’s keep our fingers crossed
Whenever I go into Guitar Center, it takes me 10 minutes to find what I need and 45 minutes for some bored and disgruntled GC counterboy to ring me up.
They aren’t making money and the company could give two shits about their employees. I spent 11yrs working there and they absolutely DGAF about their employees. Lack of staffing and lack of training.
Thanks Barry! I’ve had decent luck buying use gear from the GC website. Not all of it was tested thoroughly and had to send it back. Unlike Music-Go-Round that pays for return shipping on their use gear, you eat the shipping costs at GC. Gabe, please train the folks who describe and list the products on your company’s website. It appears that some of the items that are listed are named incorrectly. Sometimes the listing photos are of something totally different than the description. Who’s checking their work?
I was at Guitar Center Sherman Oaks, CA today to get a few things. Always love jamming on the keyboards 🎹 💜
Been going to that one for over 25 years and will still always.
A business can't survive on you "jamming". They need you to buy stuff.
@@lepidoptera9337 I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. On Monday I bought an Arturia MicroFreak from the Northridge CA location which is my second closest one.
I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂
I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save a little bit more.
If my GCs don't have anything I want I order online.
It's that simple.
@@lepidoptera9337 I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂
On Monday I bought a new Arturia MicroFreak from my second closest location in Northridge, CA.
I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save more with the amount of spending I do.
When GC doesn't have anything I want I buy online.
It's that simple.
They are showing some improvements in store to layouts and inventory.
Saw a Teenage Engineering K.O. II there which was shocking, in a good way.
@@lepidoptera9337
I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂
On Monday I bought a new Arturia MicroFreak from my second closest location at the Northridge, CA.
I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save more with the amount of spending I do.
When GC doesn't have anything I want I buy online.
It's that simple.
They are showing some improvements in store to layouts and inventory.
Saw a Teenage Engineering K.O. II there which was shocking, in a good way.
@lepidoptera9337 I said I picked up a few things. I go to buy stuff. I've easily spent 20K in the past 2 years at Guitar Center. Almost all Mogami cables now 😂
On Monday I bought a new Arturia MicroFreak from my second closest location at the Northridge, CA.
I need to renew my business tax exempt code to save more with the amount of spending I do.
When GC doesn't have anything I want I buy online.
It's that simple.
They are showing some improvements in store to layouts and inventory.
Saw a Teenage Engineering K.O. II there which was shocking, in a good way.
Local family owned music store is crushing GC. You can’t treat your customers as poorly as GC does. I used to get a pro discount on everything I bought there and their “Pro,Audio” dept has turned into “Amateur Beat Maker/DJ with an attitude” and shit gear. I don’t appreciate getting treated like dirt by some high school drop out with an infected lip piercing and gross gauges in their ears. I used to go in and listen to studio monitors, play with preamps, hear new pa boxes etc.…now it’s just the cheapest shit, and only 1 or 2 brands. They no longer care about long time pros like me. Only Billy and Suzie’s mom and dad that will buy a cheap guitar amp and sign a contract for their lessons. That’s the GC model. Now guys like me who spend $50k per year or more on gear go to Sweetwater or buy used. I only go to GC as a last resort. And I feel sick in my soul every time I do. There is a GC about 10 mins away from my commercial studio and I only go after kicking and screaming like a 3 Yr old in a grocery store.
I just want to say the music 🎶 stories i grew up in like the speir music company in Dallas TX are no longer around but the guitar center in North Dallas is awesome they have great gear / Jamie parks studio
I used to work at GC in Sherman Oaks CA. What a wast of time !!! My worst 4 weeks working at that retail. The training was NONE… nada.. first day they made me work in the storage room just for the sake of it. Loading off the courier track !! It was undignified because I was 50 y/o and hired because of my long experience in studios and clientele.
Then no one train me with the system , the software they use with purchases, etc so i was oblige to share all of my sales. Commission was ridiculous and the promise of “you gonna know people in the industry “ was really lame.
Finally day 30 i quit, I took a number of a pastor that wanted a PA system for the church and follow that contact.
At the end the church paid me $500 for one day of Set Up.
And the church also gave you health insurance, right? And the next day another church paid you another $500, didn't they? And so that's all cool now because you are maintaining the PA system at all 700 churches in your neighborhood. Oh, wait... you aren't.
@@lepidoptera9337 well ..GC=!no health insurance because we all were below the hours required by law. But the good part is YES , not maintaining every week but I started playing Sundays and Thursdays and teaching audio production for that specific church and another smaller.
GC is 💩 job.
Thanks for replying
@@danyavilaoficial OK, then you got what you asked for... but what you asked for is not a real job. A proper job is full hours plus benefits... which you still don't have. I do, by the way, know what the life of a musician looks like. I am the son of one. Sometimes my Mom went hungry so I didn't have to. Thanks for your understanding. (And, yes, I love my Dad, I just don't want to be him.) ;-)
Nice shoutout to Replay Guitar, I dig that place too, even have a few incredible guitars from there.
I wish there were a few locations upstate ny around newburgh ,Poughkeepsie, middletown geesh. We have to travel to jersey or 5 boroughs.
👍🤠it's me again, but you have the right idea to ask the public/customers on their views of what I s needed, and just like when in that movie " Falling Down," 🤔"Mr.Michael Douglas told the "Whammy Burger Manager" if he had ever heard of the expression" The Customer is always right" but you have to see the movie clip inorder to see what I am talking about. But Guitar Center is still good, good products and good prices, cool gear for the struggling musicians out there, it's just feeling unwelcome could be your bigger problem because musicians love to show off and brag in a most humble about what they know l,how much they know and they wanna test your knowledge at times. But I get it sometimes people get tired 😴 f the same b.s. but sometimes you have to fake that smile to make them feel cool 😎 and welcomed.
Barry, I have to disagree with you about Guitar Center, at least the store ive been going to for about 22 years now in Arvada, Colorado. Ive lost count of how many guitars, basses, amps/cabs and all sorts of the supporting stuff, cables, picks, pedals, etc.. I dont buy the "entry level stuff" you talk about, ive bought at least a dozen or more Les Pauls, some Fender Strats, Vox amps, Marshall amps and cabs etc...
They have had people come and go over the years, as any retail store would, specifically one like Guitar Center. I dont know if these stores are all company stores or if they are franchised. Honestly ive never looked in to it.
What i can say is this store is by far the best, in everything ive needed in sales, theyve always carried an unbelievable amount guitars in all styles, shapes and sizes, and they are licensed dealers of virtually all the major guitar and amp manufacturers that im aware of.
Theyve always met anyones price, and go even below it, and i have made some killer deals on guitars and amps.
Ill use just my last purchase 4 weeks ago. I bought one of these Epiphone Hummingbird Acoustic Inspired by Gibson. These guitars were being built by just one Luthier start to finish in the Indonesian Gibson custom shop. I dont know about the sister Co. Gibson acoustics but the Epiphone has since moved operations to, big surprise, China. So these guitars built in Indonesia are getting very scarce, as there are many differences in the guitars from the Indonesian shop, than those now from China. Ive watched all the reviews on the guitar which have all been amazing, even garnering better playing and tone than its sister Co. Gibson, Taylor, Martin, etc...
As i said the guitars built in Indonesia getting harder and harder to find. Well my Guitar Center got just 1. I simply lucked out just during my occasional checks around since i decided to buy one, and they had one that had just came off their truck that afternoon and hadnt even been unpacked yet.
I got to the store, and after looking at my account, and seeing my history sold me the guitar with taxes etc.. out the door for just under 800.00. They could easily get 1000.00 and some change easily, you just cant find these.
Fast forward 5 weeks and i bring the guitar in after getting ready to lower the action on the string height, as i like it to be as low as possible without any fret buzz, when i noticed the Bridge/saddle looked off. It was coming up off the guitar. Come to find out this has been a known problem with this guitar, and other Gibson acoustics, because they are gluing the bridges down on top of the finish on the guitar not preping the surface to unsure a good adhesion. Long story short they took it in, fixed the problem, set the action as i like, and put a great set of strings to boot. Ive heard some pretty bad stories about Guitar Center, but in certainly hasnt been my experience, at all.
There are some gems still remaining, that said, you can tell by reading through the comments that those gems are few and far between.
Yer Great!!!
. .. ... Barry. Maybe you know. Is GearFest 2024 happening at Sweetwater this year?
I have a crazy story. Guitar Center employees just got mad at me because I asked if they could order me a Behringer System 55. Guy looked at me angry. System 55 is 1,250% cheaper than Moog System 55. That means Guitar Center wants me to pay 1,250% Margin for some wood trim? I have a new found respect for Behringer. If the profit margin was only 100% cheaper I would say what Behringer did was wrong, but 1,250% margin is highway robbery. Thank you Behringer. Moog and Guitar Center need to explain why they hate Behringer so much.
We will see if it does happen.
Was just in one of my local GC's, we have 5 here in the Phoenix area and as Barry said I was ready to leave as soon as I walked in. They don't even carry hi-end cables in the stores any longer, and God forbid if you need a piece of gear right away (forget about it!!!) I am also a DJ, if I am in need of a new stylus I am S.O.L. make sure you keep back-up needles my fellow vinyl purists!!! online orders only. I recall being able to walk into a GC and being able to buy at least 90% of your studio (HI-END) in store. I can go on for days however I will stop here!
Thanks Barry for being a voice!
🤔my name is Jacob,and I like Guitar Center. I don't shop like I used to because I can't afford it anymore, but Guitar Center is still nice and affordable. Good quality 🎸 guitars and amps at an affordable price. And they have expensive stuff on the shelf as well. But here in America, their are more poor-struggling musicians than rich musicians that have money to buy expensive gear or whatever, I don't think that's the problem with Guitar Center, but in my opinion, you might wanna tweak around with your employees/personnel. Because you have customers full of pride going into guitar center to spend their hard earned money, but if that customer doesn't feel loved or appreciated because the employee didn't really make them feel welcome, then he or she is going to your mom/pop's local music store to give them money instead of giving it to Guitar Center, all because the guitar center employees did not help that "Rock Star" feel welcome. I think that is really the problem. So customers will leave you because you did not make them feel welcome. "If you get what I mean" April 29,2024a.d.🤔🧐🤠
My prediction: nothing but social media posts showing females playing guitar/drums, and constant bragging about how they are “saving the planet” by recycling etc.
Thats what every other music focused site/company does.
Social justice virtue signalling has been disastrous, just let a person's talent speak for itself instead of shoving forced inclusion down our throats while lowering the bar for those who haven't earned the opportunity
@@jasondorsey7110 Im sure we all agree that everyone is and should be included if they so desire. But throttling every company with this BS is a mob tactic. You cannot change human instinct. You cannot change what is true.
Love your channel
The problem with GC is bad policies and bad management on all levels. They simply care more about profit than customer service.
My Guitar Center is horrid!
The understaffed and you cannot get out of there if you are selling gear in a reasonable time!
I was there over 1 hr trying to get a deal done and i watched 3 customers leave for lack of service.
Also the guys working there cannot handle high volume.
They need to also QUIT TRYING TO BUY YOUR GEAR AT ROCK BOTTOM PRICES and bring back layaways.
All in all they are horrid.
I have had exactly the same experience. As a basis, I feel that Guitar Center has completely forgotten me. I have never walked in there and found instruments in good shape, a good selection, a well stocked store… It’s just not happening. Sure hope it changes.
Let's say you had found a well stocked store... just how many instruments would you have bought from them?
@@lepidoptera9337 you were a guitar Center, corporate level employee, it would be worthwhile answering this question in detail.
@@andreamorse6064 Zero. The number of expensive guitars the average musician buys at a Guitar Center is zero. Why? Because the average musician doesn't have money. How do I know? My Dad was a musician. My Mom sometimes went hungry so I didn't have to. ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337 well, this is a very personal thing for you of which I completely understand. I am single, have been well employed all of my life and have made a good living. I own many expensive instruments as well as a equipped and fully functioning studio. I guess I am the outlier who often goes to Guitar Center with the expectation of spending over $1000, sometimes over $2000. So it’s very disappointing not to have any local stores that have reason to sell any good quality instruments.
I hope you are no longer struggling for sufficient sustenance. Best regards.
I’ll never never never ever deal with guitar center again in my life! They are the worst people to deal with! The customer service was terrible! What they offered me on a guitar plus case was an insult! Basically here’s a penny for the case and will just take what’s inside! Have a nice day!! Yeah …I walked right on out with guitar in hand! So screw you guitar center, I can only hope you change or just close you’re doors!
If guitar Center had all the products from NAMM oh, it would get all the people back
Guitar Center reminds me of going back to high school, it truly sucks . I must also include in my evaluation of Sweetwater it truly sucks too. I give value to Vintage King however I find your employment for Sweetwater quite annoying you sound like an employee I thought you had more jams than that
Sweetwater is the best in the business
Sweetwater won me over a long time ado. Guitar center who’s that?
Ive been to 4 different GCs in the last year or so for minor needs. It became very obvious it is a perpetual sinking ship. The floor staff lacks people skills, knowledge, and professionalism. The experience with their guitar techs was subpar, to say the least. Ive been making large purchases with Sweetwater for years because of the culture of customer importance. Not to mention a better selection and prices. Its going to take a LOT for me to ever set foot in a GC ever again.
Sweetwater is like Amazon. They operate a large warehouse in Fort Wayne, Indiana. A physical retailer will have a very hard time competing with them in terms of cost. Maybe Guitar Center can learn something from Best Buy. They somehow managed to survive the retail Amazoncalypse by matching prices... but I don't know if that model is even remotely transferable from tvs and whiteware to instruments. I think the way Best Buy did it was by generating custom SKUs (i.e. small variants of models that are exclusive to them) that were usually simplified (fewer inputs on tvs for instance) compared to the model for general sale. I think that would require Guitar Center to make contracts with manufacturers to produce Guitar Center specials. That could be custom paint jobs or necks or something. Something that stands out without raising cost much.
Low end products attract low end customers which suck in case you didn't know. Low end customers are cheap, entitled and return everything.
I am sorry. that last bit is just horrible advice. Look, I like Sweerwater as well, but to tell viewers not to buy from Guitar Center until they turn themselves around is just terrible advice. They won't turn anything around without sales. This turn around is gonna take a year to three years and if there isn't any sales in the meantime it won't happen. Good customers buy from a business, great customers buy from every busines, just like you don't eat from just one restaurant.
Reverb
Hopeful AND pessimistic 😉
Bullshit Gabe
Guitar centers a joke "zzsounds" is better "Sweetwater" is the best
Sweetwater is moonwalking over all the competition with only one physical location. However; it's not just that. It's the wide selection of gear. Want an entry level Focusrite Scarlett - they got it. Want a PRISM audio interface - they got it. Two year warranty included, free 2 day shipping and sales engineers who actually know about gear. I would love to see GC turn it around as competition is only better for us consumers.
@@AyoMillz i went to Sweetwater two weeks ago. Whole place was spotless… every guitar was set up and in tune, and the staff were excited and eager to help people. All the amps were plugged in too! The salesman put me in a demo room and sent the warehouse guys to grab a couple guitars for me that werent on the floor.
He then takes them out of the boxes snd tunes them before bringing them to me. Ive never seen this level of service at GC.
Bought a $2500 guitar on the spot.
A week later I run to my local gc and ask the guy “do you have any 9-46 DR sets?” He says “strings are over there”
Yup.
@@miket2646 smh and this is why Guitar Center and Sam Ash failed
Gc should be supporting local upcoming artist and have events with pro musicians and engineers.
Right like Sam ash they have a stage
@@jpilot07 I’ve seen it a certain locations but not every locations.
They need to go in and revaluate the stores managers, cause my old store’s managers were Horrible!!!! They didn’t appreciate their employees, especially the 40+ year old ones with countless years of experience. As a repair tech, they wanted me to pull wool over the customers eyes and lie about their repairs to push the up charge/up sale. I didn’t do it and eventually got the boot after a year of winning over customers with my trust and workmanship.
I totally agree with you regarding Guitar Center! It was the musicians amusement park one time. I spent thousands and thousands there from drums to acoustic guitars to electric guitars to bass guitars to congas and percussion to amps to audio, etc. But as you pointed out, the quality of equipment has dramatically dropped over the decades. My last 7 piece drum kit I bought was at Sam Ash and my 9 new cymbals and a club jam drum kit I got from Sweetwater. One thing you failed to point out about Sweetwater was the absolute quality of their sales engineers! GC needs to replace all their wannabes with real musicians and audiophiles, and provide mandatory ongoing training. Sweetwater nailed it there! GC also needs to up their game online and price their products competitively! Can they do it, I want to say yes, but corporate culture takes years if not decades to change. Will they have enough time, sadly I’m not sure.
That's all cool, "pros", but how many of you are actually buying a $7k base from guitar center? Yes, you might be LOOKING, but you don't have the money to BUY. It's the Mom and Dad who want their kids to learn an instrument who are buying that $300 guitar plus accessories plus a few lessons. They are keeping that place alive, not you.
Last week, I noticed my local Guitar Center completely revamped their store layout, placing all their premium guitars (fender/gibson) and lineups within arms reach. They've also set up boutique guitar pedals, plugged in and ready play with quarter-inch cables.
I have to hand it to them, it's a much better experience and akin to why people still prefer going to Best Buy instead of shopping online - they want to test out products firsthand before making significant purchases.
I saw the same, and was shocked! They had all the quality stuff out for everyone to check out. Was really refreshing
Mine has gotten a lot better as well!
They need to do the same with the Nashviile store! It's pretty horrible on several levels but hey, let's see what they can do!
@@jerrycharles66 I bet they will! This one is in Austin.
That would be awesome :)
SweetWater is kicking GC’s ass with one location!!!
And has for a long time
You can say that again.
I have a GC about 30 min away . I never go
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I hate shopping online. I like to pop up, get what I want and leave. I been trying to get a compressor for years with them. I always go there first but it’s never there. So I go on Facebook shop or a pawnshop. I’m 36 years old
Guitar Center is done. I remember when it put all the thriving Mom and Pop stores out of business back in the 90s and 00s. Sweetwater and the remaining Mom and Pops on Reverb have taken its place. I was a faithful GC customer when I lived in LA back in the 80s. I hope you spend more time showing what you are doing with the gear you have rather than turning every video into a Sweetwater spot...
Hi Barry. This is Gabe Dalporto, CEO of Guitar Center. Thanks for your video and commentary. We have a ton of work to do to achieve the vision I set out. Things don't change overnight. We're starting with 20 pilot stores, and learning how to do it right. Then we'll be rolling out to the rest of our stores. So please be a little patient but we will get there.
If you get it done I will celebrate. Where are those stores going to be?
Good luck Gabe .. retail is not an easy task these days. There was a comment above from a viewer that struck a chord. Support the local musicians in the areas of each store with events and venue to preform. Maybe a place to make demos to. 🤷♂️ think outside the box .
GC is great to visit, but it often doesn't have what I want. I walk in, enjoy browsing, and then go home and order from Sweetwater. I want fresh Boveda packs. I love mid-priced great quality Indonesian made guitars, which are the best value in the market right now. I have a modest collection of guitars which I love, and for my collection, I bought a Silver Sky SE last year, during their great sale event. GC didn't even have any!! I couldn't play one in the local GC store at all -- which is crazy because the entire SE line except for the DGT was on sale for 4 months! The SS SE I ended up buying at another retailer wasn't a demo -- it hadn't been hanging on a wall for umpteen teenaged boys to bang around before I got there, and it was in perfect condition right out of the box. I love it, and every time I pick it up I think of that experience, not GC.
NB: GC needs imagination. What's being suggested is too old hat, still "in the box." Do some focus groups with a larger variety of people; you might get some very productive unusual suggestions. And get some consumer data and pay attention to it.
GC has some absolutely huge advantages over Sweetwater, etc, but it seems like GC doesn't recognize its own power or how to use it.
Good luck Gabe! I truely hope you succeed and bring GC back to its grand roots! The road won’t be easy, but it looks like one of your competitors is soon to be gone after 100 years.
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The overall health of the musical instrument industry drives sales to a degree. A symbiotic relationship between manufactures, sellers ,and the customers. No cost solution, prompt a survey for your hourly associates to discuss items they would be excited to see, i.e. partnered limited runs, exclusives, and improvements to existing product to provide feedback to manufacturers. All I've seen is cost go up and quality go down, rehashing the same stuff like a bad Hollywood remake. The entire industry needs a shot of adrenaline, but seems to be out of touch with what the consumer wants. Is rock n roll dead? Maybe. Dying, definitely. Beating a dead horse? Turn it into a radioactive supercharged zombie stallion. I'd buy one.
Andrew Scheps has done mixes on $99 Sony headphones. One can buy a great Motu interface for $200. A $30-40 Joyo analog amp sim pedal can hold its own. An SM57 is a great mic and often sufficient for even vocals. In other words, "junk" can get the job done.
You said exactly what I'm thinking! I really want to enjoy GC again and it needs to show that it cares about it's customers.
I think Sam Ash and Guitar Center should merge. Shut down stores with low foot traffic; and get rid of the lazy, useless, employees. Both stores need to have a better quality/variety of merchandise. More products on display so people can try before we buy an instrument/equipment. That’s the one thing stores have over online…try it out first, take it home and use it the day you bought it!!!
Well if guitar center in Roy Utah hiers quality employees who are musicians and understand equipment to sell and have a room with high-quality pro equipment for the more advanced players 🤔
GC does not understand how to hire qualified sales staff. Most employees have limited product knowledge and no experience in music. The training modules are ridicules. They are brand focused instead of teaching about how the product is used. GC requires their vendors to teach and train their employees and there will always be a bias with that approach. I call it the copy and paste syndrome. It is very important for manufactures to provide training, but that should not be the end all. I trained GC stores on a national level for 12 years (I did not work for GC, I worked for a manufacture), and the new employee turn-over rate was 21 days. I found that most new employees only worked their because they thought it would help them become a rockstar. I'm not joking, I have thousands of stories from my training days. The company needs to figure out that just because someone bought a guitar, that does not make them the best candidate for employment. It's a sales job that requires knowledge of the music industry. I still find most Southern California GC locations staff are very ignorant regarding product knowledge, and how it applies to the customer's needs. Not all, there are some who know their way around a mixing board or what wood is used on the front of an acoustic guitar, but the majority are clueless.
Good job Private Equity Firm: it was a sad day in Sam's Club when I saw an Alesis logo on a cheap consumer-level arranger keyboard. What an inspiration it would be on many levels if Gabe can clean up the mess and turn around Guitar Center!
Bring Mars Music back!!!! Even if it means consolidating some locations!!!! I miss those good 'ol days.....
Times have changed, before the ubiquity of the internet and TH-cam, retail and physical locations were the primary way to sell. Purchasing products in todays world is now matter of putting an item in an Amazon shopping cart. How about guitar center to consolidate their 275 ish locations to just one or two in high volume cities, packed with the good stuff while revamping their online presence. Stop charging shipping on used gear We have over 6 GC in lower Michigan. They’re great if you want a starter strat but horrible if you want anything else of higher quality and likely you’ll have to order it.
sweetwater sucks
Amazon, sweetwater + people doing live TH-cam reviews to properly showcase gear, that’s destroying all need for a guitar center middleman. I believe boys in charge need to accept the fact that no perfect 15% - 25% off crap is gonna put them back on top. They need to take the risk and completely change their business structure like Netflix did, and find their new place in this evolving marketplace.
For starters, getting highly strategic with events, maybe converting building into jam session centers where each instrument section can live jam with the other, or a whole lot more social media influence, and brand new customer service endeavors, all of that could help.
We need a unique reason to enter your store again. The reason was there before the internet obsession, but now that it’s not, it just needs to be recreated.
The more I listen to this post Mr Barry , the more I chuckle .
There aren’t as many people playing instruments these days compared to 1974 ? ? For real ? 😳
There is an exponential amount of new musicians playing today in 2024 , some 50 years later .
There are more younger bands , more music stores , the internet to make purchases and learn from . .
That’s a bizarre statement to say the least .
I think we’re done here 😊
From a drummer's perspective there is ONE area in particular that a music retailer must excel at..... CYMBAL SELECTION.
Ideally the retailer will stock 2-3 of the same make, model and size of premium level cymbals on their wall since rarely do 2 cymbals sound exactly the same... and notwithstanding on-line retailers who feature "buy THIS cymbal" video samples.... there is no substitute for sampling it yourself without the gee-whiz sound processing that Sweetwater, Memphis and others manipulate the true sound with.
It's too bad.... because Guitar Center HAS the walk-in location piece of this already in place but has squandered the opportunity.... at least where I live.
Over the years I've come to the reality that I have to.... but happily so..... drive 2 hours from Sacramento to Fresno to Bentley's Drum Shop to experience (key word in retailing) a great selection and customer service that is second to none. It's never been a trip that disappointed so if you're within tolerable driving distance.... check out Dana Bentley's in Fresno!
Been disappointed in GC for some time for most reasons you mentioned. The help is NO help. Guitars are not inspected/serviced before going up for display. They will not budge on price if a guitar has some dings. Lousy trade value. The local GC here has a high end damaged Taylor acoustic/electric guitar hanging on the wall with a cracked top (looks like it may have been dropped) and electronics don't work. Price tag $1,300 ! Junk as far as I'm concerned . Someone else looking at it offered a much lower price. Sales person said "that's the price" and walked away. You get better instruments, service, trades at local mom/pop / non big box music stores. I seek out those places and that's where I buy my guitars. The other plus is.... these smaller stores are a nicer place to hang out with other musicians. The owners are friendly and willing to accommodate. My personal experience with one smaller store was when my amp gave me trouble and needed a replacement for a gig the next day. At the time, they really didn't know me. They gave me a similar NEW amp to use while my amp was being serviced. Didn't even take my credit card ! The fellow said "just be careful with it and bring it back after your gig" (which I did). Who does that ! !??? NOT GC that's for sure. 🎸🎸🎸🎸 BTW, I've since bought some nice high end guitars and other gear from this store and also did well on trades.
Leave it up to guitar center to NOT carry a reamp box, headrush pedal board, more than 2 telecasters, amp power soaker or anything to do with the times. They always say the same thing "we can order it for you" well I can do that lol. Hopefully things will change for the better.
I live in Canada where LONG AND MCQUADE is our big National retailer. They are Canadian family owned and they are a damn good retailer. Prices are high yes, as everywhere, but there are 4 L&M stores here in my city- North, South , East and West, and they are stocked to the ceiling with everything from used to entry level to high end and even some rare and vintage gear. It's a guitar geeks smorgasboard. Their music lessons are sold out and they NEED more guitar teachers.
GC I go to in Villa Park, IL recently started to lock up some of the guitars... How disappointing and unwelcoming. Knowing that I'll take 20 min to get an associate to unlock one for you to try, then you feel like nahhh let's get outta here!!!
Guitar Center mostly has “ entry level junk “ ? ?
What GC do YOU go to ?
Go to the GC at 2633 N Halsted in Chicago and say hello to Trent and ask him if the glassed room on the left
is all entry level junk .
Then take a walk around the entire store including the acoustic room .
You have no idea what you are taking about bro . No idea .
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Some GC Sales people, online or in store, have been real helpful with good service. On the other hand, GC is a mess at the company level, and does crap like nonstop send you USED items when you purchased NEW. It's almost comical at this point: all the plugins will be registered on an interface by someone else, obvious dirt and handling all over microphones, etc etc.
GC started with shady business from day one. It’ll never change. I’ve seen the company chew people up and spit them out at all levels. Don’t even get me started on GCPro. It’s a culture of vultures all the way through…
Retail chains don’t work. Everything’s Internet now. And I think everyone agrees and knows that. The people who wanna start playing the guitar are mostly novices with a dream. There are many people out there who go through this phase. That is guitar centers, customer and that’s why the name of the store has guitar in it. There is no reason to carry high gear out of place like that that’s geared towards the masses. What you’re talking about is a boutique audio shop who has a special relationship with the equipment they sell. Again, that does not work on a mass scale, and you cannot scale it.especially when you live in the world is made by monoprice and you can get everything cheaper online.
Having an affordable selection is wise, of course like old music shops, you might have the new shiny sections, but you need shit for the common folk, too.
You can’t totally crap on Guitar Center without really understanding the landscape of the music industry and the art of music. It is unfortunate that we as a society do not appreciate art anymore. It is unfortunately all about revenues and yeah, the revenues have increased again in the music industry, but the music as a whole is horrible and you could see this by the number of streams going down every year for new music and going up for past artist.. It’s only a selective group of current mainstream artist that are getting the majority of the stream and that’s being pushed by these major labels. For Guitar Center to regain its luster it is imperative that they try to recapture the feeling of the art and making music like it was in the late 90s and early 2000s just as much as it is to sell great gear and those are not necessarily synonymous. It is about the artist to make people care about the music again and not this generic AI crap that we are getting. Creativity and the expression of the human experience is key.
Napster and Apple and TH-cam have sucked much of the profit out of the music industry and it trickles down to everyone. It’s far harder to make a living as a musician, it’s far harder to become famous, so serious music is disappearing.
@@peacefulruler1 What are you talking about? It is so far more easier to get known as an independent artist between TH-cam and TikTok..... Rich men North of Richmond was #1 last year by Oliver Anthony a complete unknown..... Justin Beiber .. so was Jacob Collier.... (he isn't serious music?).... All of them discovered on TH-cam..... Tik Tok is so powerful all the majors try to push their artist on there to promote. So many unknown artist are discovered there the problem is their art is eh on the ones that go viral. There has never been a. better time to be an independent artist to make, distribute and be visible with your music. The problem is the revenue portion is broken. Streaming companies, TH-cam and Apple have hamstrung how much they will pay because the RIAA and the Majors negotiated the terms to benefit themselves and not the artists. You can try and tour but because the concerts and venues are so expensive kids rather spend money on a festival where they can spend the same amount of money and see 30 to 40 acts over 3 days. The future is direct to customer and as an artist you should aim to get 300 to 500 fans that really support you, between social media, merch, and small venue clubs if you can grow that to 10-20K world wide you can make more money that ever being a signed artist. The issue is can you make your music and run it like a business because the old model is dead. Web3 and direct to customer is the future.
Problem with GC, is management and the CEO don’t understand music, musicians and the market. They only understand sales. GC was something 2 decades ago, but it has become a dump to sale old used gear. I just came back from one today. Can’t even get D’Addario bass strings. All basses hanging on the walls are Squiers and the poor kid attending doesn’t know what’s going. All of this, is a result of poor decisions and poor management. Idk that GC can make a comeback. The online stores are the new tesla dealers, you kind of have to trust them with what you want and trust that they know what they’re talking about.
With places like zzound & Ams having a pay as you play payment plans is making it hard for retail stores
What are your thoughts on sealed vs ported monitors? Are sealed monitors more forgiving of untreated rooms? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
They should use their influence to help promote bands that actually play their own instruments.
Also, it would be nice if they would offer PLEKING Service
I work for Guitar Center, and especially the Pro Audio section in our store has a lot of lower end, more budget end stuff. I'd love to see a lot more higher end gear, less KRK and more Focal. Less Gemsound, more Shure. Hoping Gabe can help out.
Alto music was able to overnight me a pulse 16 mx after realizing they disnt have it in stock. They ran all over the place and made it happen direct from their distributor. Had it the next morning. My first experience with alto was phenomenal.
2:16 “We’re very loyal!”…….”but we’ll also turn on you on a dime.” Welcome to 2024 logic.
He’s right, loyalty has to be earned everyday.
The GCs here in Florida; Winter Park, Boca Raton, Delray are for the most part full of cheap junk. IMHO
Yep! Orlando is the best and it Sucks!
I hope you don’t mind me creating a video talking about the same thing I use to be and employee at Sam Ash, Medley Music and Guitar Center, so I also have some ideas on what can make Guitar Center go back to its roots.
Have fun
So true, walk in there are no hi-end audio interfaces on display, bass guitar section on complete suck mode, and most other sections are short in their options.
Hopefully GC can finally get it together. I haven't been to mine in many years and it's literally 5 mins away. Seems like most or all of them kept going downhill. Thanks for sharing your thought Barry!! Much ❤ BJ!!
It should be like a mini NAMM. Their advantage over websites is that you can try it out in person.
The Grunge movement in the '90s did wonders for srores like Guitar Center. After Nirvana you had a whole lot of people who decided to learn to play and started their own bands. Where I grew up and lived most of my life, the Pacific Northwest, it seemded everyone I knew was in a band. Even then Guitar Center had some decent gear but some was garbage. I like being able to try out a guitar or a amp before I buy it. Now most Guitar Centers are gone. Sweetwater and Reverb dominate the market. Jopefully the new GC CEO will bring in quakity gear, hire knowledgable people, and allow space to try out the gear. I know there will probably still be a sign that says, "No Stairway to Heaven" in the area to try out guitars and amps. But that is for the benefit of all of us.
No, it's the wrong move..Guitarists are realising the quality of the squiers and even infinitys. The CNC machines have got the necks so good on those that many are just as good as a USA Strat. In this shitty Biden economy, some pros are verry happy with a squier, even for gigs. If the CEO just focuses on the upper line stuff, then the stores will remain a ghost town inside, and it will go bankrupt...again. I am surprised that Gibson is having problems because they are way over priced.
Sorry but the facts don’t match up with most of what you are saying. I agree that fender and PRS especially are making very good guitars in the sub $1200 range. Certainly have handle most needs. That said the work that a CNC Mavhine is going has never been what separates quality but rather efficiency. I am a wood worker and I have made a guitar on my CNC and one without a CNC, all the CNC did for me was give me time to work on other things in the shop while it was doing its work. I plan to do a series of videos for the next guitar I make. The attention to detail on the finish work and the attention to detail. That along with higher quality electronics and hardware are another huge difference. This is why you can make an epiphany would like a LP Standard. I know I’ve tried that twice and said forget it. Some people who don’t have as much experience would probably say they sound the same when they don’t nor do they play the same.
Take a LP or a PRS AS AN EXAMPLE, they typically have a sold thick piece of figured maple on top of the mahogany, where as an the others are either a tiny piece veneer simulating the figure. I could name a bunch of differences.
Lastly, no they are not for CEO’s nor are they frankly for most young kids in their 20’s. I know a lot of life long blue collar workers that are over 40 that have multiple 4k plus guitars. I’m not a CEO or wealthy, I have over 7 of the. In my studio purchased over the last 20 years.
It’s no different than when you’re in your 20s or even 30s for that matter, it’s not likely that the average person will be able to go out and buy a $400,000 house which is not that much these days for a house sadly but it’s true , $60,000 truck, a $35,000 boat plus a vacation. That’s not like that happen when you’re 20s and certainly early 30s unless you happen to have made a lot of money and for that I apologize. Other than that most of us don’t get that stage until we’re over, and then not everyone gets to do that over 40.
@@BarryJohns I am 66 years old now, I remember the starter guitars. I have started an online business to help me buy guitars. When it comes to Gibson,I don't want the extra thickness of the maple top. I always bought the single slab mahoganys like the LP special. I always wanted a Jr. but I don't like the 50's baseball bat neck. the 60's slim taper is me.
I’m the same way, 20, 25 years ago, I loved GC and did tons of business with them. Now when you go into what used to be one of their major stores, it is so empty and the isles are so wide, you could run cattle through there if you wanted. it’s not just absence of the level of gear that I normally purchase, it’s the lack of knowledge by many staff members, who simply don’t know they are stupid. I hope they can turn around the gear portion, but I’m not sure where you find smart people anymore. don’t get me wrong, I’m not talking about ignorance of gear, if you are ignorant you can learn about gear, I’m talking about the type who will approach from a standpoint of great wisdom and knowledge, but they really don’t know what they are talking about. Example, I had some 20-year-old kid salesman arguing with me that Martin D-18s were made from Rosewood, not mahogany.
I love the repair guys at my Guitar Center in Riverside, CA. They do a great job and are professional
I was there when guitar center and other big box music retailers shut down the mom and pop and boutique retailers. I fell for it and became a big box retail fan. Since the demise of guitar center, a lot of those shops have come back and are doing well. I am not making the same mistake twice. I only buy high end gear from the folks that work hardest for my business, and those are the ones with families to feed just like me. So no, I don’t care what GC does. I am not going back.
Love Sweetwater they are the best!!!!!
Does anyone do a mail order guitar rental service yet? You know, rent and Ibanez for a monthly fee and then 9 months later when your sick of it trade it for something else available
Agree 100%. I think GC has missed a really great opportunity to foster musicians who have money to spend by not being open to on-site demos, clubs and meetups who might be able to entice interest in their stock (if they carried quality gear). As someone who is part of a large electronic music community, we're always trying to find places to meet and showcase what we do in a low-key environment. Sam Ash made some progress with their stages, but with many Sam Ash stores getting closed, that option is not going to be around for long. Also, some customer service training for staff would go a long way to making GC more enjoyable. I'm either met with totally clueless people, or people who think they know everything. Neither extreme is attractive.
Want to know how good my local GC is. They got Tone Master amps.... just kidding. They have literally nothing you might currently see a demo of online. When I was still going there, it was a game to try and find a) non Fender guitars and b) something newer than 3 years old. But my county only has 500k people, so maybe we are not big enough for the good stuff (sarcasm!).
I used live very far from that Guitar Center and I couldn’t wait go there every chance I could and see all those great dreamy guitars.
Now I live about 5 minutes from Guitar Center and I don’t even bother to go, unless I need a cable or something small.
Every time I go there is the same thing, just junk on the walls
So I stop going, if I’m looking for something in particular I just shop on line. And yes that easy enough but there’s nothing like walking into a store and get surprised by something that you were not expecting and be all about it like a new toy.
i'd been a GC customer since 1976, when i think there were only about 4 stores... built relationships with all the sales guys in California... didn't like Sweetwater when they arrived... but GC began to have fast-food-like staff turnover... every month new sales people... reluctantly, i went to SW... and they made me a believer... i've had ONE SW sales rep swap in 25 years!!! i will remember the early GC days fondly, but i don't care if i EVER see them again...
Marketing fact...there will always be more entry level players in a given year. Unfortunately for GC, companies like Donner can retail a quality guitar at half price, or less, at Walmart site. GC are geniuses for even staying in business in this climate.
Hmmm. Maybe I’ll have to give GC one more chance. I’m 67 years old and have purchased thousands of dollars worth of guitars, amps, PA equipment, recording equipment etc over the years. The last time I visited my local GC, i swore it was the last time i would set foot in a GC. I wanted to purchase an inexpensive pedal (around $150) which the store had new in stock. The clerk couldn’t find the box or any of the paperwork that came with the pedal. I asked for a discount the product was incomplete. The clerk dished out attitude and absolutely refused to take anything less than full list price. I walked out and vowed never to waste my time in another GC. Life’s too short.
Really pissed off at GC CEO !! I'm a gigging musician chic and I can't afford these over priced pieces of collector crap gear! It all of us gigging and regular musician loving people and yeah we all should be able to buy instruments but only high priced crap?? Hell with that I'm done with GUITAR CENTER
Barry, I’m new here to your channel, but I build, play and repair. I do all the string instruments in our worship band at church. That being said, when I’m looking for parts and even strings I have to go online from boutique to guitar center they rarely ever have what I need sometime even the right strings especially for basses. I used to exclusively shop at guitar center, but now I more enjoy boutique shops. Also for Gabe to be successful he needs to consider area demographics guitars in Detroit vs Louisville vs Memphis vs Dallas, will probably different you know what I mean. Also I agree the best online guitar store buy far is Sweet Water, reverb used to be great for used gear, but now when you sell they bury you in all kind of expenses. And get this if you sell something over $600.00 they send you a 1099! Now you have to hunt down a receipt to offset the cost of the sale or show a loss. I’m glad I found your channel love the content!
Guitar Center/Musician's Friend saw CompUSA and Radio Shack and said, "let's be that"!!! Then Sweetwater showed everyone how it's done. Guitar Center became GuitarShack. Their sales people know next to nothing and don't give a sh*t. Those who can, do, and those who can't, work in music stores.
I hope they can… I feel a bit of sad and uneasy when I walk into our Guitar center. On life support comes to mind. Makes me not want to stay too long.
Sweetwater on the other hand…. We live about 3 hours away. My friend and I make the trip down every few months. It’s such a great and happy place to visit. Check out all the stuff, buy stuff, eat in the company cafe. Meet with our sales rep who’s been there for years and years. Must be a good place to work.
Then when we’re home, we can also have a great experience with them online and on the phone. We joke that when you click purchase and then walk to your front porch, the stuff is already there. Chuck and company have spent decades perfecting this Mecca. Going to be hard to compete with such a force.
Gc definitly needs a rehaul the one here in Hollywood has some good stuff and stays pretty busy MOSTLY cause its the only game in town for normal musicians who aren't In the "industry"per se. plus all the mishaps at shows and festivals they get a lot of quick fix visits as well.. they have a solid mic locker as well you can get a 57 OR A NT1 AND A U87 . the sam ash next door is going out of business though if that tells you anything... in my opinion their taking advantage of being the only game in town as far as being a physical place to go . but soon it won't be a sustainable model in smaller towns that don't have constant industry work around it to stay afloat... I think they are in a critical time in their companies journey. they need to double down on people . focus more on instrument lessons/ production courses to engage the talent in the area, battle of the bands competitions/talent shows.... ARTIST MEET & GREETS have disappeared . GC needs to become a staple stop on artists touring/promo runs.. finally I feel like store layout and inventory habits needs to drastically change at this point 75% of the store should be devoted to studio/home production . focus on bringing new products into store faster. so GC can become even more a testing ground to public
It appears that the new CEO has actually made the terms of dealing with GC worse....Their return period went from 90 days to 45 days. For a store that is under staffed and the staff is not very helpful of course they will have returns because the staff does not help with product selection. Also the sales guys work on commission so they get very upset when you return a guitar even if you buy another......because they " take a hit on their pay check" I am quoting a couple of them. Not a happy place like it used to be.
If I were GC, I would put the door person back up front to greet customers and minimize theft, then I would FULLY stock the acoustic guitar section with quality brands like Tayler, Martin, Gibson, Epiphone, Yamaha etc., Then I would go to the electric guitar wall of shame, I mean wall of fame, and start thinning out the heard replacing cheap poorly made guitars with more iconic brands like Fender, Gibson, Music Man, Schecter , just to name a few. I would also allow customers the ability to negotiate price like they were able to back in the day! Then I would educate my staff regarding how to post an effective used guitar add online, one that will get the item sold sooner rather than later. The ad would have to include CLEAR photos of all sides of the guitar and the description must have as many details as possible such as the guitar's make, model number, year produced, country of manufacturer, type of woods used and any applicable electronics/pre-amp types the guitar has. I would also have a consistent grading system like "poor" "good" "very good" "excellent" and "mint" and have set rules on how to rank the guitar properly and using a one inch arrow or something like that in the photos to point out any applicable flaws to insure the highest level of disclosure is achieved. Last of all, I would find out why the website GCdotcom and MFdotcom take so long to load and I would have that fixed. In my opinion these websites should load at least as fast as their competitor's websites! Please note, I am a guitar player which is why this review has a guitar player's bias!
I would like GC to offer quality gear at REASONABLE prices ,limit Chinese junk ,better repair services with more expertise ,,just saying