Did you see Amorim at half time shaking his head in disbelief? Took him a mere 45 mins to realise these players are good in training but cant be arsed come matchday. Something ETH couldnt after 2.5 years. Please be ruthless Ruben dont hold back.
Erik knew that but just like amorim he can't do anything about it at the moment just like Erik did he needs another transfer window or two and more youth brought up in order to actually play his style 😒 otherwise in this manager job ain't no winning as a manager if you don't play counter attacking football the fans attack you or the players throw u under the bus and you sacked, if you do play counter attacking the fans attack you and the players throw you under the bus and u get sacked
I think this exposes how delusional the Jim Ratcliffe hierarchy is. The worst part is that the fans will turn against the manager knowing how tough it is for him. They're impatient & ruthless.
those fans who can't even call out thier country men like : John mourtohr Richard Ronald Matt judge ed Woodward daren Fletcher. British people are so delusional thinking they know about the football but can't see thier own people not good enough but want to call out foreigners is weak mentality mind set.
I wasn't shocked by yesterday, just disappointed. I did expect a better performance with it being a new manager but it clearly shows that time is up for, at this current time, a majority of the squad.
When they're not good enough mate!..SMH am glad we never win the game because if we had won it would have covered up the real problem and then make statements about how the other managers wasn't good enough.
Anyone saying to go away from the 3-4-3 of Amorim is ridiculous. Ineos went out and got him from Sporting knowing the formation he plays with and want him and that style here. If the players can’t do it they have to go. You can’t say for him to switch back to what the players are familiar with or like to play and let Amorim adjust to a formation he’s not used to. It’s the players that have to adapt now and if they can’t then they hopefully will be moved on by ineos.
Nah man he is just scared of Rashford pr hence he facking hit you with stats 😂😂 And put hazard in same sentence as Rashford 😂😂 hilarious We all watching TH-cam because we get genuine reactions...not that crap what is legacy media..
Fair play to Mark and TUS for finally calling Rashford out, despite the grief he may get from that. It needed to be said, no more dancing around the subject.
We're paying superstar wages for very average players. Unsustainable. Rashford and Bruno wouldve been kicked out by Bayern Real Barca Liverpool etc YEARS AGO
Lol some yall silly asf he's is more interested in basketball cause he flew to watch a game.... so what case more interested in Donald duck ??? Mark has a lot of yall brain wash ..and I bet if he changes his mouth which I bet he would so will u smh
I was watching on a Spanish network and the commentators were so adamant that Amarion change the formation. I’m so glad he didn’t. Loved the exposure of the players that are not up to par
Ruben has clearly said he would protect HIS players. WE as fans know the players don’t have it in them to defend the manager/coach with performances. As fans the most important thing we can do for the next few months is protect our new coach. Against other fans, media and some players. BACK RUBEN AMORIM.
The players don't take their jobs seriously. You can see some players trying for 90mins, doing what they can. But most of them are pretending they care. They care about their salaries.
Its not the managers fault how we play, it was not ETH fault its they players who isnt good enough, brave enough, smart enough and lazy, but what is the managers fault is defending this players, being stubborn and keeping favorites and im excited to see if Amorim is finally destroying favorites fc. But lets see if Ineos is just business men like Glazers or Sir Jim actual care for the club and truly support the manager, and it starts in January, and about players leaving, i would get ride of Maguire Lindelof Evans Shaw Casemiro Eriksen Antony Mount Rashford Zirkzee, still a entire team, and players like Garnacho isnt a starter he is a squad player who need to develop and get better, even Bruno i love him, but he getting old and is so frustrating sometimes, and we need to start to look at his replacement.. WIRTZ!
I wish we would’ve won yesterday but I’m not as upset as I normally would be after a loss or draw. I’m glad it was so quick that he sees what the players are like. He gets a good look right away at what he has and what won’t work in his system. Just hope Ineos can have the balls to listen to him on players that need to go
I agree with you Mark, these players lack creativity and you can't give what you don't have. What should happen is, if they can't be sold, their wages can be re negotiated. There is nothing that says you should continue to pay for underperforming work. It's a two way thing: if you work very hard you renegotiate and ask for higher wages. If you don't, then your wages go down. We do that in my company and many others in the business world and Football is a business!
Give some credit to keiran Maguire... he knows these United players inside out and took full advantage to exploit thier weaknesses on the pitch and it worked! 👍🇬🇧
But if ineos can't see what is going on at this club but still telling the new manager he needs to get the best out of these players then the cycle continue with the glazzers incharge
Picking Casemiro and Eriksson in he midfield together was a mistake, if he had gone with Ugarte instead of Eriksson it would have been more solid, the new front system will take time but it's putting round pegs in square holes, Amorim just needs to get through a few transfer windows before he has the players he needs, it was a bad game but at least Amorim knows what he is looking at now and what he needs going forward, the season is a write off, we just need to forget about it and let the guy rebuild.
What is it about Rashford and getting picked every game? I remember a quote from Benni saying that Rashford does well during training sessions and for some reason can't replicate it during games. Just something to think about...
That suggests Rashford cannot play under pressure and has a weak in-game mentality. He would be better off in a lower half premier league or championship team as that is his level.
I'm predicting that is in his contract, that he needs to play a certain number of games and start a certain number of games. His contract is bullet proof.
Yes, i couldn't agree more. it's the players who are the problem. Sacking managers is useless. Solution, very easy. give the manager a contract that outlives all the players. So if player with the longest contract is 4 years for example, you give the manager 5 years and the liberty to sell all of them or not extend their contract. that way the manager will have the power, note that he also needs the backing from the club. you get rid of certain players and things will improve. they have an undeserved wage. they have a wage of elite players and if you put them in the championship most of them would fail.
Sell bruno and keep who ? Mount? , bruno is one of the best midfielders in the world he’s struggling because the team is shite ,he needs good players around him
May b keep Bruno but i get it rest see u go .. and zirk shud neva play again hes worse than them all and his pass the blame mentality hes basis black pennywise
Bruno’s interview was very revealing. He does not give off the vibe of a leader. He did not seem bothered there was a new manager at all. Completely saw this result coming.
Amorim said in his interview that he’s naive. He said if he see a player playing for the club,he will know and if he see a player not playing for the club he will make that decision before he lose his job
I don't have a problem with Amorim starting players in this game that he'd actually had time with to train, because we saw early and responsive substitutions from him when it wasn't going well, and hopefully we'll see him adapt and learn in the coming weeks. For the first time in a very long time I've watched us play and felt like for all the faults with the players, we actually saw the manager do everything he could to change the game. None of the totally baffling nonsense we got from ETH. We need to give him time.
Goldbridge loosing every credibility with statement that casemiro 5 time champions league winner is bigger problem than Rashford 😂😂 Laughable statement...
We need to get rid of rashford, Bruno, Casemiro, zirkzee, hojlund, eriksen Evan’s, maguire, lindelof, Antony, mount, and some more that I’ve probably forgotten. It’s going to be a long journey for Amorim
Amorim is not stupid. He had to see how players would perform under real match conditions. He got his answer. Unlike ETH, he won’t play that lineup again.
I don't think we will be so bad. But united need to sell players and buy players in January. The coach was a problem, but the players are definitely not good enough.
Amorim already said it, and players should at least have tried a bit with the new 3-4-3, having new coaches debut and new ideas! I agree with u, & used to day it it's the players not acting professional and playing for big team like united! Some already gave up(casimero,"Erikson"), and Rushford not a quality player as we had thought he is!
heard it all before. Dont really need to give examples because im sure we all know, but specifically remember ten hag saying there were discipline and fitness issues, making them all run, going running with them, 'cracking it'. How long did that last? Ridiculous
I liked what he's looking to do and in theory had we played for longer than the first 81 seconds we should've won, Rashford disappeared, the substitutes were rubbish apart from Ugarte
Yesterday the player the let down the manager and all a the fans them around the world .. Make why seh dat them fi win the first game fi the manger but we as fans no say them dont good .. Them all good in .. TRAINING. AND NO HOW TO PUT UP WINING TEAM .. MARK ✨✨✨
Mark ! Ruben Amorim is not going anywhere . These is first game and what INOES should do I allow him do away with some players who thinks they are big men players
Amorim gave everyone game time in the Ipswich game and he will have learnt that there are a select few players who will work extremely hard in the new system. The others are surplus to requirements and need to be benched or sold on.
its so simple to fix these deadend players DO NOT PLAY THEM & TELL THEM THEY WILL NOT BE PICKED FOR THE FIRST TEAM make them train & let them SACK THEMSELVES get there agents to get THEM OUT
It's been known for a very long time that United retain and promote bad players while also recruiting very poorly. There is so much change required to that playing squad. It's going to take a long time, perfect decision making and a fair bit of luck to sort it out.
Why are some People love criticism. Amorim just came and put in a massive show at United now we are complaining for what! Amorim will change our player mentality they have been behaving like an infant
Some of this fanbase is too reactionary nowadays they only want quick success which isn’t realistic some of them needs to wake up and accept that Ruben Amorim isn’t Harry potter or the wizard of ozz that can turn us into a top 4 contender and competing in all cups in a short space of time this is not the 90s or 2017 anymore football has changed now. The good news is Ruben Amorim is focused on building a style of play this season rather than sacrificing style of play and focusing on results Ruben said himself “I want us to get us playing properly now otherwise we will be in the same situation next season” you can’t sacrifice style of play and just focus on grinding results that’s damaging long term
Rashford is an average player with pace - which elevates him - for every decent game he follows it with 6/7 below par performances - his awareness is poor, he can't hold up play, intelligent bending runs - run the channels, win headers - press defenders - the list goes on and on - he should of been sold 2/3 years ago...his pace will start to leave him which make him an average player at best - Zirkzee is another who looks well off it.
So in a nutshell what Mark's trying to say is that we have a new recipe but we lack the ingredients to make it and I agree. ETH was given the ingredients(maybe not the correct ones) and failed.
Your wrong about Bruno, twice he put the player through for a one on one, one for rashford and one Garnacho and they were both too slow to shake off the defender. Bruno is our best midfielder at the club. His IQ is miles above our strikers and attacking players, that's why some of his passes go astray.
Don’t disagree with Rashford criticism but that’s the same performance Hojlund has been giving us up top. Doesn’t run the channels, gets bullied by most CB, we don’t press as a front line so can’t say he’s bringing pressing. Only difference is Rashford doesn’t get the excuses of no service
I think Rashford got distracted during COVID, he's surrounded by people who love him, but he's not good enough, or just doesn't care. He doesn't respect the fans.
Rashford is too soft. To wear the shirt, you have to be prepared to fight for it. Bruno is probably so sick of other players being paid, but not playing with the attitude needed.😮
Its a new coach a new style of play u cant expect them to give a huge spark? It takes time these set of players played very well under van nesteroy i told my friends that bringing this coach now is not a good idea they just got tru with Ten hang they played with nesteroy now Amorim these guys r not machines they are human beings they need time to adapt i expected this coach to come on this job january not now so these players can have time to breath those who need to go will go tgen new players will come thats it.
I'll be honest I was looking forward to a front 3 of Garnacho, Amad & Ramus up top, with Mainoo and Ugarte in the midfield and possibly a new number 10. (Wirtz or Musiala would be great) - under ETH. This new system will see many changes so sadly I don't think we'll ever see that aforementioned set up now. Some of this promising youth will be lost / moved on under an ever changing tactical / managerial merry-go-round 😕
No manager or coach should be told to play certain players to get the best out of them and because we can’t sell them, we are screwed. Ineos will have to back Amorim and let him get rid of the players who can’t do what he wants .
How can you remove players that no other club will take as they ask for ridiculous wages? You could pay up their contracts and get shot of them but imagine the cost of doing that? Yet they have still been giving long contracts to very average players.
@@Pengboi_Cartiagreed, I think very premature on Zirkzee. I definitely don’t see him as a 9 and think his future if it does work out, will be as one of the tens
Rubem he would protect his players if they play for the team. And is just me noticing or Rashy lost a yard of pace?! Gyokeres really need to come to United ASAP
Did you see Amorim at half time shaking his head in disbelief? Took him a mere 45 mins to realise these players are good in training but cant be arsed come matchday. Something ETH couldnt after 2.5 years. Please be ruthless Ruben dont hold back.
Agreed 👍
Benny McCarthy said the same about United players. They give 120% at training, but come match day they don't look the same.
@@info0 why do you think they do that, mentality issues??? Cause idk anymore
Erik knew that but just like amorim he can't do anything about it at the moment just like Erik did he needs another transfer window or two and more youth brought up in order to actually play his style 😒 otherwise in this manager job ain't no winning as a manager if you don't play counter attacking football the fans attack you or the players throw u under the bus and you sacked, if you do play counter attacking the fans attack you and the players throw you under the bus and u get sacked
Nonsense
If it's true that Amorim has been told he needs to get the best out of Rashford and he's agreed to that we're even more finished than I thought.
I think this exposes how delusional the Jim Ratcliffe hierarchy is. The worst part is that the fans will turn against the manager knowing how tough it is for him. They're impatient & ruthless.
what if marcus has a guarantee clause. no one in England will admit it, deny it or ask about it.
Rashford should been gone many years ago....
@Junior-llll no we've seen what amorim is all about I really hope us the fans will turn on the players before even looking at the manager
those fans who can't even call out thier country men like :
John mourtohr Richard Ronald Matt judge ed Woodward daren Fletcher.
British people are so delusional thinking they know about the football but can't see thier own people not good enough but want to call out foreigners is weak mentality mind set.
Respect for giving Onana his praise. Looks like a strong character and he's having a great season 👏
Onana finally had a good game. Nothing special. MU kicked Henderson, a natural goalkeeper, and invested 50 million for a lesser Onana.
Bruno Rashford Casemiro laughing their way to an early retirement.
I wasn't shocked by yesterday, just disappointed.
I did expect a better performance with it being a new manager but it clearly shows that time is up for, at this current time, a majority of the squad.
When they're not good enough mate!..SMH am glad we never win the game because if we had won it would have covered up the real problem and then make statements about how the other managers wasn't good enough.
Football IQ exactly what I’ve been saying for years. Our young attackers lack creativity. Our experienced attackers lack accountability.
I've been saying this for years before you
Well said
Anyone saying to go away from the 3-4-3 of Amorim is ridiculous. Ineos went out and got him from Sporting knowing the formation he plays with and want him and that style here. If the players can’t do it they have to go. You can’t say for him to switch back to what the players are familiar with or like to play and let Amorim adjust to a formation he’s not used to. It’s the players that have to adapt now and if they can’t then they hopefully will be moved on by ineos.
Goldbridge had no problem calling Maguire shite but when it comes to Rashford geezer walking on the egg shells...😂😂🤡🤡
Hes moved away from being like that.
Nah man he is just scared of Rashford pr hence he facking hit you with stats 😂😂
And put hazard in same sentence as Rashford 😂😂 hilarious
We all watching TH-cam because we get genuine reactions...not that crap what is legacy media..
Couldn’t agree more .. rashford has gotten a free ride on this channel and other media outlets for years 🤷🏻♂️
@@eazye31what PR team?
Don't take on the pr rashford machine!
Fair play to Mark and TUS for finally calling Rashford out, despite the grief he may get from that. It needed to be said, no more dancing around the subject.
Knowing he's living up the ass of rashford mate.
If the club continues with the Rashford/Bruno star making branding project, this club will languish around 6th-10th place forever.
We're paying superstar wages for very average players. Unsustainable. Rashford and Bruno wouldve been kicked out by Bayern Real Barca Liverpool etc YEARS AGO
Just sell Rashford to NBA, he's more interested in basketball instead of football anyway
Lol some yall silly asf he's is more interested in basketball cause he flew to watch a game.... so what case more interested in Donald duck ??? Mark has a lot of yall brain wash ..and I bet if he changes his mouth which I bet he would so will u smh
@@nicholascallender7973and u want to keep someone who don't even want to be here anymore???? I believe you're the one who got brain issue
Well said@@nicholascallender7973
Couldn't of gone any better yesterday. Amorim saw the real utd and exactly what he's working with.
I was watching on a Spanish network and the commentators were so adamant that Amarion change the formation. I’m so glad he didn’t. Loved the exposure of the players that are not up to par
Welbeck was better than rashford
Still is
He was on 70k a week
😂Foreal.. He was way more active which all I really want from rashford.. Energy
At least we could see a system for the first time in years along with using subs when needed....
Rashford is a Darren Bent, please don't insult Darren Bent as he was actually clinical!
Ruben has clearly said he would protect HIS players.
WE as fans know the players don’t have it in them to defend the manager/coach with performances.
As fans the most important thing we can do for the next few months is protect our new coach. Against other fans, media and some players.
BACK RUBEN AMORIM.
The players don't take their jobs seriously. You can see some players trying for 90mins, doing what they can. But most of them are pretending they care. They care about their salaries.
Its not the managers fault how we play, it was not ETH fault its they players who isnt good enough, brave enough, smart enough and lazy, but what is the managers fault is defending this players, being stubborn and keeping favorites and im excited to see if Amorim is finally destroying favorites fc. But lets see if Ineos is just business men like Glazers or Sir Jim actual care for the club and truly support the manager, and it starts in January, and about players leaving, i would get ride of Maguire Lindelof Evans Shaw Casemiro Eriksen Antony Mount Rashford Zirkzee, still a entire team, and players like Garnacho isnt a starter he is a squad player who need to develop and get better, even Bruno i love him, but he getting old and is so frustrating sometimes, and we need to start to look at his replacement.. WIRTZ!
I wish we would’ve won yesterday but I’m not as upset as I normally would be after a loss or draw. I’m glad it was so quick that he sees what the players are like. He gets a good look right away at what he has and what won’t work in his system. Just hope Ineos can have the balls to listen to him on players that need to go
I agree with you Mark, these players lack creativity and you can't give what you don't have.
What should happen is, if they can't be sold, their wages can be re negotiated. There is nothing that says you should continue to pay for underperforming work. It's a two way thing: if you work very hard you renegotiate and ask for higher wages. If you don't, then your wages go down.
We do that in my company and many others in the business world and Football is a business!
At this point i don’t mind Amorim using youth players from the academy all through
Give some credit to keiran Maguire... he knows these United players inside out and took full advantage to exploit thier weaknesses on the pitch and it worked! 👍🇬🇧
Kieran McKenna shurely?..
Really enjoyed your talk on the Webby O'Neil channel. Learnt so much about you
Looks like mark got Saul goodman as his lawyer. He's going all out on rashford this fine morning
Deservedly so.... Everyone is entitled to an opinion
Did you comment before his Casemiro dissection?
😂 better call Saul.
Amorim told the truth after the game, whereas Ten Hag contradicted what our eyes had just seen during the match
Ten Hag was straight forward and honest at the beginning. Let’s see what happens to Amorim in a year or so.
@@shanet5324spot on. That's exactly what made me so positive about Ten Hag first. Hopefully he is ruthless and kicks out the deadwood
Agree with what you’re saying, the reality is half of the team needs to be sold.
But if ineos can't see what is going on at this club but still telling the new manager he needs to get the best out of these players then the cycle continue with the glazzers incharge
Issue is how ??? Fans won't wait ten minutes nevermind ten games
Picking Casemiro and Eriksson in he midfield together was a mistake, if he had gone with Ugarte instead of Eriksson it would have been more solid, the new front system will take time but it's putting round pegs in square holes, Amorim just needs to get through a few transfer windows before he has the players he needs, it was a bad game but at least Amorim knows what he is looking at now and what he needs going forward, the season is a write off, we just need to forget about it and let the guy rebuild.
And evans and rash and garnacho zirk shud neva play again so bad
Didn't the south americans come later than others from intl. break maybe that's why he didn't start ugarte and martinez wasn't even on the bench
@@Assh__141 Maybe but I would rather have started Ugarte in that position for 45 - 60 minutes than Eriksson to be honest.
Every story has 2 sides cant wait in 3yrs when Erik speaks out about what was happening
What is it about Rashford and getting picked every game? I remember a quote from Benni saying that Rashford does well during training sessions and for some reason can't replicate it during games. Just something to think about...
That suggests Rashford cannot play under pressure and has a weak in-game mentality. He would be better off in a lower half premier league or championship team as that is his level.
I'm predicting that is in his contract, that he needs to play a certain number of games and start a certain number of games. His contract is bullet proof.
Yes, i couldn't agree more. it's the players who are the problem. Sacking managers is useless. Solution, very easy. give the manager a contract that outlives all the players. So if player with the longest contract is 4 years for example, you give the manager 5 years and the liberty to sell all of them or not extend their contract. that way the manager will have the power, note that he also needs the backing from the club. you get rid of certain players and things will improve. they have an undeserved wage. they have a wage of elite players and if you put them in the championship most of them would fail.
I can't help but nod and agree with everything you're saying.
RashBINho
Bruno
Eriksen
Casemiro
Evans
Maguire.
Lindelof
Shaw
All those need to go !! I'll take my chances with Garnacho.
Sell Dalot as well.
Sell bruno and keep who ? Mount? , bruno is one of the best midfielders in the world he’s struggling because the team is shite ,he needs good players around him
May b keep Bruno but i get it rest see u go .. and zirk shud neva play again hes worse than them all and his pass the blame mentality hes basis black pennywise
List should be longer mate
Bruno’s interview was very revealing. He does not give off the vibe of a leader. He did not seem bothered there was a new manager at all. Completely saw this result coming.
Lets just hope Amorim doesn't have a cool off in his contract because after seeing the players he might just use it if he has one.
Amorim said in his interview that he’s naive. He said if he see a player playing for the club,he will know and if he see a player not playing for the club he will make that decision before he lose his job
Danny Murphy stated on MOTD2 - "I'd be amazed if they were still playing a 3-4-3 in a years time". I so hope he's wrong 😊
RASHFORD ain't world class,his wages are.
Never has been
I don't have a problem with Amorim starting players in this game that he'd actually had time with to train, because we saw early and responsive substitutions from him when it wasn't going well, and hopefully we'll see him adapt and learn in the coming weeks. For the first time in a very long time I've watched us play and felt like for all the faults with the players, we actually saw the manager do everything he could to change the game. None of the totally baffling nonsense we got from ETH. We need to give him time.
What we need to do as a club is if your not in the future plans then yr out the team. Focus on what we will be using in the future and mould a team
Just seen the Webby interview - excellent.
Goldbridge loosing every credibility with statement that casemiro 5 time champions league winner is bigger problem than Rashford 😂😂
Laughable statement...
Rashford was playing up front as striker in Ten Hag's 1st season.
Make no mistake Amorim knew what hew was doing yeaterday and its part of the process. players will be sold in the summer.
Amorim will get us playing well and we will win from next game. I believe in him and the players will turn up
After that performance you think united can beat arsenal? 😂😂😂
We need to get rid of rashford, Bruno, Casemiro, zirkzee, hojlund, eriksen Evan’s, maguire, lindelof, Antony, mount, and some more that I’ve probably forgotten. It’s going to be a long journey for Amorim
Amorim is not stupid. He had to see how players would perform under real match conditions. He got his answer. Unlike ETH, he won’t play that lineup again.
Mic drop!!!! All facts!!! 👏
I don't think we will be so bad. But united need to sell players and buy players in January. The coach was a problem, but the players are definitely not good enough.
Amorim already said it, and players should at least have tried a bit with the new 3-4-3, having new coaches debut and new ideas! I agree with u, & used to day it it's the players not acting professional and playing for big team like united! Some already gave up(casimero,"Erikson"), and Rushford not a quality player as we had thought he is!
I genuinely expected a Home Win yesterday. All in all, the Draw was OK!
Are these players trying to get Ruud back?
I think so
Definitely not Mazraoui, Amad and Onana
Bruno, casimero, Dalot and rashford need to be sold and replaced, think this will change a lot and show the seriousness of Inioes
heard it all before.
Dont really need to give examples because im sure we all know, but specifically remember ten hag saying there were discipline and fitness issues, making them all run, going running with them, 'cracking it'. How long did that last?
Ridiculous
I liked what he's looking to do and in theory had we played for longer than the first 81 seconds we should've won, Rashford disappeared, the substitutes were rubbish apart from Ugarte
Well said Mark.
You can't state the rashford stats because he had one amazing season that distorts reality. He is lazy, ego too big and just isn't good enough
Yesterday the player the let down the manager and all a the fans them around the world .. Make why seh dat them fi win the first game fi the manger but we as fans no say them dont good .. Them all good in .. TRAINING. AND NO HOW TO PUT UP WINING TEAM .. MARK ✨✨✨
Mark ! Ruben Amorim is not going anywhere . These is first game and what INOES should do I allow him do away with some players who thinks they are big men players
Performances like that will not earn our patience im afraid
Did you see Danny Murphy saying he will change the system 🤣🤣
I seen Danny Murphy saying he can’t see Amorim sticking with the 3-4-3 in a years time 🙃 Danny should be prat of the week this week
Amorim gave everyone game time in the Ipswich game and he will have learnt that there are a select few players who will work extremely hard in the new system. The others are surplus to requirements and need to be benched or sold on.
its so simple to fix these deadend players DO NOT PLAY THEM & TELL THEM THEY WILL NOT BE PICKED FOR THE FIRST TEAM make them train & let them SACK THEMSELVES get there agents to get THEM OUT
Great to see Shaw back and hopefully he can stay fit till the window opens and we can maybe ,just maybe get rid off, that includes norushford
It's been known for a very long time that United retain and promote bad players while also recruiting very poorly. There is so much change required to that playing squad. It's going to take a long time, perfect decision making and a fair bit of luck to sort it out.
Why are some People love criticism. Amorim just came and put in a massive show at United now we are complaining for what! Amorim will change our player mentality they have been behaving like an infant
Playing the Toffees next is a big boost for Amorim...he could roll out the reserves and win.
Some of this fanbase is too reactionary nowadays they only want quick success which isn’t realistic some of them needs to wake up and accept that Ruben Amorim isn’t Harry potter or the wizard of ozz that can turn us into a top 4 contender and competing in all cups in a short space of time this is not the 90s or 2017 anymore football has changed now. The good news is Ruben Amorim is focused on building a style of play this season rather than sacrificing style of play and focusing on results Ruben said himself “I want us to get us playing properly now otherwise we will be in the same situation next season” you can’t sacrifice style of play and just focus on grinding results that’s damaging long term
Amorim 1st season in Sporting, at the end, he sold a lot of players. All the old and inutil stuff
Rashford smiling at the end talking to an opposition player says it all, he doesn't care enough
Rashford is an average player with pace - which elevates him - for every decent game he follows it with 6/7 below par performances - his awareness is poor, he can't hold up play, intelligent bending runs - run the channels, win headers - press defenders - the list goes on and on - he should of been sold 2/3 years ago...his pace will start to leave him which make him an average player at best - Zirkzee is another who looks well off it.
So in a nutshell what Mark's trying to say is that we have a new recipe but we lack the ingredients to make it and I agree. ETH was given the ingredients(maybe not the correct ones) and failed.
I’ve been saying for years it’s the players, well some of them!
The thing with us is that we first has to sell then buy. Then we only buy second hand players or potentials
Your wrong about Bruno, twice he put the player through for a one on one, one for rashford and one Garnacho and they were both too slow to shake off the defender.
Bruno is our best midfielder at the club. His IQ is miles above our strikers and attacking players, that's why some of his passes go astray.
I loved the show, speaking facts only
Don’t disagree with Rashford criticism but that’s the same performance Hojlund has been giving us up top.
Doesn’t run the channels, gets bullied by most CB, we don’t press as a front line so can’t say he’s bringing pressing.
Only difference is Rashford doesn’t get the excuses of no service
I think Rashford got distracted during COVID, he's surrounded by people who love him, but he's not good enough, or just doesn't care. He doesn't respect the fans.
Rashford is too soft. To wear the shirt, you have to be prepared to fight for it. Bruno is probably so sick of other players being paid, but not playing with the attitude needed.😮
Mark, do you think this woke world we live gives underperformance an excuse
If Rashford can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen x
These let my 7 fold down yesterday. How am I feeling?
I expected a bit more enthusiasm and effort with the same level of football intelligence but that didn't even happen..
They played better under Ruud
my friends already putting $ into the pot which players will outlive amorim's stay at manu utd. i won $120 when ten hag got sacked. 🤣
I Guess ETH was just being honest it's really a process these players aren't ready! SPORTING IS STILL WINNING GAMES CONVINCINGLY WITHOUT AMORIM!
How can they pay these players like that. They aren't good enough. The owners need to wake up.
Its a new coach a new style of play u cant expect them to give a huge spark? It takes time these set of players played very well under van nesteroy i told my friends that bringing this coach now is not a good idea they just got tru with Ten hang they played with nesteroy now Amorim these guys r not machines they are human beings they need time to adapt i expected this coach to come on this job january not now so these players can have time to breath those who need to go will go tgen new players will come thats it.
Amorim needs 2or3 players for sporting who he trusts and are leaders, 1 of the defenders Holjmund midfielder and the striker
The situation can be solved in one sentence:
"Either shape up, or ship out...."
I'll be honest I was looking forward to a front 3 of Garnacho, Amad & Ramus up top, with Mainoo and Ugarte in the midfield and possibly a new number 10. (Wirtz or Musiala would be great) - under ETH. This new system will see many changes so sadly I don't think we'll ever see that aforementioned set up now. Some of this promising youth will be lost / moved on under an ever changing tactical / managerial merry-go-round 😕
I wish ETH was still a manager at united 😂😂😂😂😂,he could get to the highest level!!!!!!
No manager or coach should be told to play certain players to get the best out of them and because we can’t sell them, we are screwed. Ineos will have to back Amorim and let him get rid of the players who can’t do what he wants .
Worth keeping:
Onana, Martinez, De Ligt, Mazraoui, Yoro, Mainoo, Ugarte, Amad, Hojlund.
The rest are duffers.
Backing of the board. Wheat from the chaff. And there ain't much wheat. Otherwise same old cycle.
i guess the Amorim HYPE is over now after just 1 game against a relegation team Ispwich who should have won it by 4 goals 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Most of these players couldn’t pass a parcel
How can you remove players that no other club will take as they ask for ridiculous wages? You could pay up their contracts and get shot of them but imagine the cost of doing that? Yet they have still been giving long contracts to very average players.
Worst front line I've ever seen in United. Garnacho, Rashford, Hojlund, Bruno, Zirkzee all need to go!
Zirkzee only been here for a few months
You got market fucked with him.@@Pengboi_Carti
@@Pengboi_Cartiagreed, I think very premature on Zirkzee. I definitely don’t see him as a 9 and think his future if it does work out, will be as one of the tens
Zirkzee + Hoyland = Osimhen
But that was not possible for united so some club from turkey got him hahahaha
Rubem he would protect his players if they play for the team. And is just me noticing or Rashy lost a yard of pace?! Gyokeres really need to come to United ASAP