OSB is amazing, I made an outdoor step(just piece of osb screwed to 2x6 box frame) leading into my shed. It isn't sheltered from the weather in any way...snow, sleet, rain, ice and/or blazing sun. That was 14yrs ago! Its still going strong. Great shelf build, thanks for sharing! 2:24
Amazing video. It was exactly the explanation and run through I was looking for. Obviously I am devastated with realization no matter what I do I can't make use of the corner efficiently with any blum drawers or gadgets haha.
Thank you so much. I am planning to make modular kitchen and probably was going for those corner solutions without understanding much about them. Now I will go old fashioned ...
not only was this a thorough and well explained video, the reason I am here is bc I've moved into a house with the EXACT kitchen layout you used in the example 😅 Unfortunately the previous builders chose to go with curved shelve ( similar to the lazy susan but without any rotation option) so I'm pretty stuffed when it comes to storage space 😭😭😭 Nevertheless this video has provide me with helpful information that I can arm myself with when dealing with cabinet makers in the future! Thank you so much!
It was a little flimsier than I expected. I had to add a 2x2 piece of wood to the bottom on the rear side in order to stabilize it better th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXTh-lz-8W6GcB219vTLp27-MxbZYObBX . It is also starting to bow a little at the outer wall ( I've had it up for about 6 months), I've already had a shelf tumble down because of the bow and the fact that the little shelf brackets are quite short. I went out to home depot and got some longer ones so that the shelves don't tumble down again. Overall, it looks very nice for the price and it holds a lot ( I use it as a pantry). I am very satisfied with my purchase. I just strongly suggest reinforcing it before putting it up.
That dead space is something I first noticed and found odd when I was like 3years old. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention. Im going to try bifolding doors there. That'll be one of my signature selling points. I also don't like sharp 90° corners on islands. A kid might hurt themselves or maybe even to a couple fighting or an old person slipping down that just looks like an involuntarily murderous weapon. Btw, nice art work 🙂
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I had a carpenter cut an access opening and add a door to the space in a corner that was completely inaccessible - it's amazing how much space I have available to me now.
A simple straightforward corner cabinet with lazy Susan works perfectly and negates the need to get your shoulders into the cabinet. There are also many swing away units by Rev A Shelf but they are incredibly expensive and a pain to use. I have used a lazy Susan for years and love it.
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and such. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
In my small kitchen, I just left the corners empty and put drawers on each side. The drawers are much more efficient, so for me, it was the answer. Later, I will access one of the corners from the bathroom (when I get to that project). The other corner I might make an electric lift for a larger machine.
I am of the opinion that; if you don't want to stack and reach into the far back, a lazy susan IS the way to go. The presenter over-dramatized the downfalls- 1) the location of the pivot point is variable, and dictates the radius of the susan. 2) any normal person will stack items that are used infrequently around the edges, so utilizing that space, and 3) his point about height restriction is simply baloney- the susan swings out into the clear- and items can be dropped straight down, no need to clear the rail.
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and magic corners etc. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and such. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
Great video! I also ended up with same thoughts. Just happy to see your video validating my thoughts. Feels great. A query though not related to corner, but kitchen slab though, "How do people deal with seepage at joining space of FreeStandingDishWasher with adjacent slabs.?"
I'm now wondering - and hear me out 😆- about a _lift-up corner section of worktop_ concealing roll-out metal basket shelving on a (pneumatic?) sprung hinge system that lifts shelving for full access (a little bit like a sofabed). The lowest shelf housing things accessed less often so it doesn't always need to be lifted to full height. Pick out what you need and close the 'lid' again. Make it easy access by only storing large appliances on that part of the worktop on a tray - like a breadmaker so you can still use the countertop freely. But I'm neither an engineer, nor a kitchen designer... 😉
It's funny how so many can chase some complex and expensive method of getting to the last bit of the corner, and waste half of the space and access to achieve it. 😅
This actually exists, the Qanto from Häfele, and as helmreichen states you lose about half the space for the mechanism. Additionally you get to spend 4000 dollars on a single corner, touch a button for 20 seconds to get access to the bottom shelf, not being abe to have wall cabinets above and a countertop that's visiually seperated.
@@helmreichenterprises8391 There are two types of magic corners now; The one you show loses almost no space (theoretically...they make the second set of baskets too small) but you don't get easy access to the second part. Then there is one where the first part rotates or slides out of the way completely and the second part is a set of drawers. Easy access however you lose a lot of space in the corner, about 20-40 cm. I think there are two solutions, one for each. System one; just buy the mechanism of the second option, so the door slides or rotates out of the way completely, then attach planks or baskets to the mechanism that just fit in the cabinet (no drawers, just like the magic corner you showed)...still easy access and you lose no space at all. System two; the mechanism itself is great, you just lose a bit of space next to the set of drawers. You can attach planks or baskets to the mechanism next to the set of drawers (don't attach to a rail/sliding mechanism), ideally make these planks a bit higher than the drawers for easier access.
@@helmreichenterprises8391 Hi Michael, thanks for your reply which I've only just spotted when reading @realityandnaturepill's. I think my rather complex wondering (!) comes from living in a minuscule cottage kitchen, and now having to accommodate my elderly father who is losing his eyesight and has broken his hip. 🥴 He kind of needs to see things right under his nose or they don't exist for him, so I'm continually searching for innovations that help him to remain independent. He has a hardwood coffee table, with a similar robust pneumatic contraption inside which he finds very helpful so it's what made me wonder if the same principle could be applied in the kitchen.
@@realityandnaturepill Thank you for this information. I took a look at the Qanto - I wasn't thinking of something anywhere near this sophisticated, nor electric, or that rises vertically like a lift, actually. More a simpler manual pneumatic mechanism that rises up and forward. I also hadn't pictured something that would impinge on any cupboards above. I don't really mind about the break in line in the worktop, though I know that would bother some people...
I use VariCAD. Sketchup is good too. I tend to prefer programs that don't require me to be online. I actually prefer freehand sketching for quick ideas, and I use CAD for precision.
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@@whiterider777 600mm diagonally is a clearance for your shoulders, and is quite essential otherwise the corner is not properly accessible. And the shelves are removable :)
What a great video! Thanks! We are going with the option at 18.30 for the corner/ end of our L shaped butlers pantry, kind of becomes like another walk-in pantry inside a walk-in pantry lol It will be 1600 wide though not 1300 now im wondering if i should reduce the corner's size and put a pull out pantry at the end?
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes waste volumes. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
I have a corner which is close down and only access by opening under the sink, it’s always a drag trying to get access to that space , such a waste, I’m trying ideas to redo the kitchen this summer
I just write thecorner off, save money, put top of the live drawers adjacent to the corner, only drawback is that you cant open them at the same time. Works great, as it is 100% useful, and save my clients money that they can spend elsewhere.
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
the option at 14:00 makes it hard to access a corner cabinet up top. I almost ordered my lower cabinet that way until the cabinet company let me know of the down side.
Corners are a problem, often showrooms and magazines etc. look glamorous, but they are usually not what you would want to live with day in day out. It sounds like you had a lucky escape :)
Don't worry about his fancy software- Google Sketchup is free, easy to use, has a fantastic helpful community, and video tutorials. I use it to plan all of my renovations, and; two houses later, consider it to be indispensable.
@@helmreichenterprises8391 maybe using two cupboards to make a corner because a fixed corner cupboard doesn't fit very well when the corner isn't square/ a perfect right angle
You may have noticed I use full 16mm thickness backs, so I can alway get access to a stud somewhere. Many use rails & 3mm back, or Ikea uses brackets, that creates problems. Maybe you can add a 16mm back to your cabinet(s)
Make one and see. I think you would find, that all you have done is moved the awkwardness over a little. The 45 degree side of the adjacent boxes would be quite blind, dark, and an even longer reach than an open corner unit :/
Looks like you took us on a joy ride and your 2 shelf 2 door design is the most efficient as you had shown in the first place. So you suggested issues of alt designs and they all are a fantasy advantage. Okay, so you could re-edit with 3 minutes what you may want to really say. Which is >>>>>>>>>>>?
You missed out the single most important point. I've been on the tools for 40 years and I don't think I've EVER come across a corner which is perfectly square. I don't ever use L-shaped cabinets for this reason, it's always two separate cabinets linked together with a corner post. Trying fitting L-shaped units into an 83-degree corner .....
I have been installing kitchens since 1982, and yeah, they ain't square, but I usually design in some points of 'slippage' in the whole layout. Things like dishwasher openings are a great place to allow some give. Bench tops especially long ones with long returns are even more problematic.
My solution is to just put a big sink in the corner. You lose a lot of space under the sink anyways and usually just keep cleaning products underneath.
Most of my customers like the sink in front of the window, which is usually away from the corner. But I agree, plumbing wastes a lot of space, and it may as well be in the corner.
after all that my feeling is that corners suck, realy not worth making a corner unit better off leaving the corner dead and butting two opposing cabinets.
I'm kind of a tight wad when it comes to waste. I would have used the other side of those papers rather than use a new sheet. But aside of that I loved the demonstration.
And I write to you by a translation program but I am very thankful for your interest and response and if you add to your videos written translation and not audio the benefit will be more comprehensive and general and more profitable for you I think so @@helmreichenterprises8391
hit it on the freaken mark...i havent finished watching the video but eeems its going that way...so far..i havent reached to where the solution is...all i see are problems...
In a previous comment, the creator mentioned gave this link www.varicad.com/en/home/. Hope it help even though its almost a year past your original question.
I found this very tedious to watch. We went from talking about corner cabinets to talking about walk-in pantries. And the pencil lines were so faint and hard to make out. In my previous home I had a cabinet with a lazy Susan and I think that's the way to go. We stacked cans in the corners and made good use of the space.
Yes I agree, I cringe when I watch it, and I am meaning to do an update. Many have had various suggestions. Time has just been against me :/ Thank you for your input :)
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and such. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
Hmmm. Am i stupid because i think ur idea is the poorest of those all. I think u should mention that it has to crawl to the space, not walk. I think there is majority of people who rather just choose lazy susan than any of those "crawl in" kitchen cabinets. Beside u lose tons of space when u leave crawling space there... But hey it just my thought
You need to crawl into shelves, so I agree with that, but also true is that the moment you try to use fancy fittings to give you access to the corner, you lose so much volume that you may as well blank off the space. This simple shelf idea gives the largest available storage volume, although it is still a shelf. Like I said in the beginning "The problem with corners, is that corners are a problem" ;)
You make some interesting points, and we learned a trick or two watching your video. One thing I'll give back to you is to treat yourself to a 3DConnexion Space Navigator. Your movement about the model at the end looked pretty clunky. A Space Mouse lets you move about with smooth fluid movements. I use one mostly with SketchUp, and love it. www.3dconnexion.eu/products/spacemouse/spacenavigator.html
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FOUND IT!!!!, This has got to be the best solution for my kitchen. Thank You.
Thank-you so much for this!!! I feel like I got $200 worth of kitchen design consultation. Seriously.
Awesome :)
OSB is amazing, I made an outdoor step(just piece of osb screwed to 2x6 box frame) leading into my shed. It isn't sheltered from the weather in any way...snow, sleet, rain, ice and/or blazing sun. That was 14yrs ago! Its still going strong. Great shelf build, thanks for sharing! 2:24
Amazing video. It was exactly the explanation and run through I was looking for. Obviously I am devastated with realization no matter what I do I can't make use of the corner efficiently with any blum drawers or gadgets haha.
This guy is good I work for a kitchen company and they don't go through that much detail for good storage or the benefits 👍
This is the best explanation ive found and you just saved me from making a mistake. Thank you!
Awesome :)
Brilliant analysis. Thank you for your common sense in pointing out the fallacies in “accepted” (expensive) designs.
So I guess we should go for normal old school model ,as shown in the beginning. Just a plain L shaped corner with shutters.
Thank you so much. I am planning to make modular kitchen and probably was going for those corner solutions without understanding much about them. Now I will go old fashioned ...
not only was this a thorough and well explained video, the reason I am here is bc I've moved into a house with the EXACT kitchen layout you used in the example 😅 Unfortunately the previous builders chose to go with curved shelve ( similar to the lazy susan but without any rotation option) so I'm pretty stuffed when it comes to storage space 😭😭😭 Nevertheless this video has provide me with helpful information that I can arm myself with when dealing with cabinet makers in the future! Thank you so much!
@@ladypeartree that is common, and I don't understand why :/
It was a little flimsier than I expected. I had to add a 2x2 piece of wood to the bottom on the rear side in order to stabilize it better th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXTh-lz-8W6GcB219vTLp27-MxbZYObBX . It is also starting to bow a little at the outer wall ( I've had it up for about 6 months), I've already had a shelf tumble down because of the bow and the fact that the little shelf brackets are quite short. I went out to home depot and got some longer ones so that the shelves don't tumble down again. Overall, it looks very nice for the price and it holds a lot ( I use it as a pantry). I am very satisfied with my purchase. I just strongly suggest reinforcing it before putting it up.
Thank you for explaining so clearly with your sketching.
Thank you great vlog. Starting out to have kitchen redone to fit disability. This vlog has helped me understand corner cabinetry better. Thanks again.
Excellent, good luck with your new kitchen. :)
Thx. This is a really clear and helpful explanation of various corner solutions. Terrific aid in planning kitchen space.
Your great with your sketching to show us the lost space with each solution. Thank you very much.
Thanks for convincing me to not even mess with some complicated kitchen cabinet setup and just do some regular damn drawers 😂🙌🏼
Simple is usually of great advantage :)
Working on my kitchen design. I have two dead corners which are pain for both, my wife and myself. I agree that's best solution for corner cabinet.
That dead space is something I first noticed and found odd when I was like 3years old. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention. Im going to try bifolding doors there. That'll be one of my signature selling points. I also don't like sharp 90° corners on islands. A kid might hurt themselves or maybe even to a couple fighting or an old person slipping down that just looks like an involuntarily murderous weapon. Btw, nice art work 🙂
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Thank you for your kind words :)
Hugely useful information and explanations superb! Thank you so much!
Excellent video, thank you very much !
I had a carpenter cut an access opening and add a door to the space in a corner that was completely inaccessible - it's amazing how much space I have available to me now.
Good vid mate, nice work
Great analysis.
A simple straightforward corner cabinet with lazy Susan works perfectly and negates the need to get your shoulders into the cabinet. There are also many swing away units by Rev A Shelf but they are incredibly expensive and a pain to use. I have used a lazy Susan for years and love it.
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and such. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
In my small kitchen, I just left the corners empty and put drawers on each side. The drawers are much more efficient, so for me, it was the answer. Later, I will access one of the corners from the bathroom (when I get to that project). The other corner I might make an electric lift for a larger machine.
Accessing from the other is a good solution.
great explanation thank you!
Thanks for the info, opened my eyes. Gonna measure my shoulders and go old fashion way.
Bless you! 17:40
Thanks. :)
Thanks much for the video. You helped me a lot with the analysis! :)
Thank you - I detest those "lazy susan" things in corner cabinets!
I detest corner cabinets!!
Great explanation. What about oven, hob and exhaust fan? I'm about to reno a small place and that is looking like my best option.
Nice, simple explanation.🤗🤗
most comprehensive description
this is awesome, thank you!
Lots to think about if I redesign my kitchen. Just goes to show I should be happy with my lazy Susan set up as they all have pros and cons
I am of the opinion that; if you don't want to stack and reach into the far back, a lazy susan IS the way to go. The presenter over-dramatized the downfalls- 1) the location of the pivot point is variable, and dictates the radius of the susan. 2) any normal person will stack items that are used infrequently around the edges, so utilizing that space, and 3) his point about height restriction is simply baloney- the susan swings out into the clear- and items can be dropped straight down, no need to clear the rail.
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and magic corners etc.
th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
Very nice teach
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Thanks :)
Great explainable
What ever the customer wants. But I recommend a blind corner with a pull out lazy susan!
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and such. th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
Great video! I also ended up with same thoughts. Just happy to see your video validating my thoughts. Feels great.
A query though not related to corner, but kitchen slab though, "How do people deal with seepage at joining space of FreeStandingDishWasher with adjacent slabs.?"
Generally, I would have the top extend over the dishwasher, and most freestanding dishwashers have removable benchtops.
I'm now wondering - and hear me out 😆- about a _lift-up corner section of worktop_ concealing roll-out metal basket shelving on a (pneumatic?) sprung hinge system that lifts shelving for full access (a little bit like a sofabed). The lowest shelf housing things accessed less often so it doesn't always need to be lifted to full height. Pick out what you need and close the 'lid' again. Make it easy access by only storing large appliances on that part of the worktop on a tray - like a breadmaker so you can still use the countertop freely.
But I'm neither an engineer, nor a kitchen designer... 😉
It's funny how so many can chase some complex and expensive method of getting to the last bit of the corner, and waste half of the space and access to achieve it. 😅
This actually exists, the Qanto from Häfele, and as helmreichen states you lose about half the space for the mechanism. Additionally you get to spend 4000 dollars on a single corner, touch a button for 20 seconds to get access to the bottom shelf, not being abe to have wall cabinets above and a countertop that's visiually seperated.
@@helmreichenterprises8391
There are two types of magic corners now;
The one you show loses almost no space (theoretically...they make the second set of baskets too small) but you don't get easy access to the second part.
Then there is one where the first part rotates or slides out of the way completely and the second part is a set of drawers. Easy access however you lose a lot of space in the corner, about 20-40 cm.
I think there are two solutions, one for each.
System one; just buy the mechanism of the second option, so the door slides or rotates out of the way completely, then attach planks or baskets to the mechanism that just fit in the cabinet (no drawers, just like the magic corner you showed)...still easy access and you lose no space at all.
System two; the mechanism itself is great, you just lose a bit of space next to the set of drawers. You can attach planks or baskets to the mechanism next to the set of drawers (don't attach to a rail/sliding mechanism), ideally make these planks a bit higher than the drawers for easier access.
@@helmreichenterprises8391 Hi Michael, thanks for your reply which I've only just spotted when reading @realityandnaturepill's. I think my rather complex wondering (!) comes from living in a minuscule cottage kitchen, and now having to accommodate my elderly father who is losing his eyesight and has broken his hip. 🥴
He kind of needs to see things right under his nose or they don't exist for him, so I'm continually searching for innovations that help him to remain independent. He has a hardwood coffee table, with a similar robust pneumatic contraption inside which he finds very helpful so it's what made me wonder if the same principle could be applied in the kitchen.
@@realityandnaturepill Thank you for this information. I took a look at the Qanto - I wasn't thinking of something anywhere near this sophisticated, nor electric, or that rises vertically like a lift, actually. More a simpler manual pneumatic mechanism that rises up and forward. I also hadn't pictured something that would impinge on any cupboards above.
I don't really mind about the break in line in the worktop, though I know that would bother some people...
Just what I was looking for. Thanks
Hello can you tell how to make sketching like what you do from laptop. Thanks in advance
You can use Google SketchUp, online version is FREE. Easy to learn too.
I think he is using AutoCAD.
I use VariCAD. Sketchup is good too.
I tend to prefer programs that don't require me to be online.
I actually prefer freehand sketching for quick ideas, and I use CAD for precision.
Thank you very useful tutorial
Thinking my need to beef up the support for the middle between the doors for support for the counter top.
That depends on the bench top, I have used 50x25mm steel tubing for stone.
But whatever you do, don't put a post in :/
What did you use? I think I would need to do the same.
I also did the same.......
There's no problem........
There's no space wasted.....
There's no expensive add on like lazy susan and such.....😅
Best solution is to have a galley kitchen and completely avoid corners.
100%
I have learned a lot from your video, thank you!
The Blum corner draws look nice but as you pointed out they lose so much space.
True.
That’s actually a great idea
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So which is the best?
My favourite method is usually the open corner like the photo.
@@helmreichenterprises8391 are the inner shelves removable.and is 600 mm diagonally the minimum required.
@@whiterider777 600mm diagonally is a clearance for your shoulders, and is quite essential otherwise the corner is not properly accessible.
And the shelves are removable :)
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You are welcome :)
What a great video! Thanks! We are going with the option at 18.30 for the corner/ end of our L shaped butlers pantry, kind of becomes like another walk-in pantry inside a walk-in pantry lol It will be 1600 wide though not 1300 now im wondering if i should reduce the corner's size and put a pull out pantry at the end?
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes waste volumes.
th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
hi could you tell me the name of the book which you show on this video? thanks
You can find information in catalogues, this is an older video, and the catalogue doesn't exist any more.
I have a corner which is close down and only access by opening under the sink, it’s always a drag trying to get access to that space , such a waste, I’m trying ideas to redo the kitchen this summer
Corners are tricky. :/
Thanks for the information!
I just write thecorner off, save money, put top of the live drawers adjacent to the corner, only drawback is that you cant open them at the same time. Works great, as it is 100% useful, and save my clients money that they can spend elsewhere.
That sounds like a criminal waste of space given all the different ways that a corner can be used.
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes.
th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you 😊.
the option at 14:00 makes it hard to access a corner cabinet up top. I almost ordered my lower cabinet that way until the cabinet company let me know of the down side.
Corners are a problem, often showrooms and magazines etc. look glamorous, but they are usually not what you would want to live with day in day out.
It sounds like you had a lucky escape :)
22:13 two cabinet doors opening the dead corner
Do you have a 'sharpy' to draw visibly?
I have made an update to this video.
The link is in the description.
Thanks
hello, can you tel me the name of the software used to design
Don't worry about his fancy software- Google Sketchup is free, easy to use, has a fantastic helpful community, and video tutorials. I use it to plan all of my renovations, and; two houses later, consider it to be indispensable.
thinks a lot my friend for this important information
I use VariCAD.
I use 'Ubuntu Mate' Linux as my operating system.
thank you
How many kitchen corners are 90 degrees this is the problem we all need the answer to.
Most, depending on what you mean by 90 degrees ;)
@@helmreichenterprises8391 maybe using two cupboards to make a corner because a fixed corner cupboard doesn't fit very well when the corner isn't square/ a perfect right angle
what book did you use ??
What cad program are you using?
I am using VariCAD, but I am also using OpenSCAD.
I may share a video soon.
What do you do if you have no stud to screw cabinet to
You may have noticed I use full 16mm thickness backs, so I can alway get access to a stud somewhere.
Many use rails & 3mm back, or Ikea uses brackets, that creates problems.
Maybe you can add a 16mm back to your cabinet(s)
Thanks it is fine
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With the odd shape drawers, the lost triangles could be part of the adjacent cabinets, that would not be too hard to access that space.
Make one and see.
I think you would find, that all you have done is moved the awkwardness over a little.
The 45 degree side of the adjacent boxes would be quite blind, dark, and an even longer reach than an open corner unit :/
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Looks like you took us on a joy ride and your 2 shelf 2 door design is the most efficient as you had shown in the first place. So you suggested issues of alt designs and they all are a fantasy advantage. Okay, so you could re-edit with 3 minutes what you may want to really say. Which is >>>>>>>>>>>?
What program was that, Sketchup?
VariCAD
www.varicad.com/en/home/
You missed out the single most important point. I've been on the tools for 40 years and I don't think I've EVER come across a corner which is perfectly square. I don't ever use L-shaped cabinets for this reason, it's always two separate cabinets linked together with a corner post. Trying fitting L-shaped units into an 83-degree corner .....
I have been installing kitchens since 1982, and yeah, they ain't square, but I usually design in some points of 'slippage' in the whole layout.
Things like dishwasher openings are a great place to allow some give.
Bench tops especially long ones with long returns are even more problematic.
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My solution is to just put a big sink in the corner. You lose a lot of space under the sink anyways and usually just keep cleaning products underneath.
Most of my customers like the sink in front of the window, which is usually away from the corner.
But I agree, plumbing wastes a lot of space, and it may as well be in the corner.
Sink in corner is not very accessible.
He's too cute.
after all that my feeling is that corners suck, realy not worth making a corner unit better off leaving the corner dead and butting two opposing cabinets.
That can often be a good solution.
But most times if you can give reasonable access, the space can be useful.
It would help if you used a marker instead of invisible ink to draw with...
I'm kind of a tight wad when it comes to waste. I would have used the other side of those papers rather than use a new sheet. But aside of that I loved the demonstration.
"How well you can fit a human body"................... Intrigue intensifies...........
"To that space, to get access to it"........... Ah. My bad.
I have fit my body in these cabinets a few times, does that count? ;)
I wish there was an Arabic translation, please in this video.
I am not very good with Arabic :/
I guess Google translate is not good either. :(
And I write to you by a translation program but I am very thankful for your interest and response and if you add to your videos written translation and not audio the benefit will be more comprehensive and general and more profitable for you I think so @@helmreichenterprises8391
TH-cam does not pay much per view, it is something like 1 cent per 10 views.
What you ask would take a lot of time, and so would not be viable. :(
What solution?
Get one.
simple and effective idea for corner.......thanks
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Waow easy 💪
Thank you
I suggest eliminate the whole kitchen and go out to eat.
That would work too ;)
That's the trend in most countries where the kitchen becomes a place to have coffee and some snacks. Perhaps warm up an instant meal.
hit it on the freaken mark...i havent finished watching the video but eeems its going that way...so far..i havent reached to where the solution is...all i see are problems...
Good
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If anyone makes a pop up dishwasher, or maybe even pop up shelving, then our corner problems will be solved.
That sounds like a good idea.
Although I guess that would mean you would have to keep the area above it clear :(
what apl that he use ?
In a previous comment, the creator mentioned gave this link www.varicad.com/en/home/. Hope it help even though its almost a year past your original question.
400mm = about 16"
I found this very tedious to watch. We went from talking about corner cabinets to talking about walk-in pantries. And the pencil lines were so faint and hard to make out. In my previous home I had a cabinet with a lazy Susan and I think that's the way to go. We stacked cans in the corners and made good use of the space.
Yes I agree, I cringe when I watch it, and I am meaning to do an update.
Many have had various suggestions.
Time has just been against me :/
Thank you for your input :)
I agree. Found it very confusing and lines were too faint
I have a video on my other channel which is a follow up to this. It covers the pantry a little better, and describes wasted volumes of lazy susans and such.
th-cam.com/video/R88pJMrjbe8/w-d-xo.html
Those corner drawers look awful.
Good 😊
The metric system should be outlawed.
Metrics is tens / hundreds/ thousands, or in other words a decimal place. :)
Imperial on the other hand... :/
th-cam.com/video/r7x-RGfd0Yk/w-d-xo.html
Hmmm. Am i stupid because i think ur idea is the poorest of those all. I think u should mention that it has to crawl to the space, not walk. I think there is majority of people who rather just choose lazy susan than any of those "crawl in" kitchen cabinets. Beside u lose tons of space when u leave crawling space there... But hey it just my thought
You need to crawl into shelves, so I agree with that, but also true is that the moment you try to use fancy fittings to give you access to the corner, you lose so much volume that you may as well blank off the space.
This simple shelf idea gives the largest available storage volume, although it is still a shelf.
Like I said in the beginning "The problem with corners, is that corners are a problem" ;)
You make some interesting points, and we learned a trick or two watching your video. One thing I'll give back to you is to treat yourself to a 3DConnexion Space Navigator. Your movement about the model at the end looked pretty clunky. A Space Mouse lets you move about with smooth fluid movements. I use one mostly with SketchUp, and love it.
www.3dconnexion.eu/products/spacemouse/spacenavigator.html
Very interesting
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Can't do it without mil don't bother!
I don't understand what you mean?
The only suggestion I have is to put the dimensions in inches.
sojournerhouse : most of the world use metric. Just do the maths