This game looks like lots of fun. I think the instructions give a good general historical premise for the game and if causes an itch go find some scratches in books, shows or the internets, or other research the publisher doesn’t need to be a historical resource. Just my humble opinion.
awesome awesome game, awesome awesome review and playthrough, and awesome awesome thoughts to listen to on the evolution of the hobby / industry / community regarding history perspectives and worldviews presented in the games
I am so stoked for this game. I have been looking for a roll and write with crunch. I hope this delivers. Thanks for the thoughts, Rahdo. I’m with you on limiting how much you can do so it incentives/varies additional plays. Good to know in advance
I feel like boardgames -can- be used to great affect as an education tool, however think that this is not it’s primary function, it’s a game first. Crusaders is Similar, in so much as the inclusion of a bit more history would’ve been nice, but to be fair, it’s a solid game and fun anyways. I shall check out Hadrian’s wall, thanks for your review.
publishers aren't obligated to, they have an opportunity to. and why wouldn't they, as it only increases the value and relevance of their product, for almost zero cost!
I think the rulebook actually really missed the mark when talking about slavery and how it is depicted. “We must not dishonour the lives of those who were forced into that history by erasing them.” But then proceeds to call them servants for the rest of the game. These people were not servants they were slaves, and by calling them servants the publisher is in fact erasing them. If your design is unable to handle a difficult historical topic, then pick a different setting.
after my success at getting more inclusivity in Furnace: boardgamegeek.com/thread/2527051/article/36479530#36479530 (which the publisher told me these changes only came about because i called it out in my video: th-cam.com/video/q2LeHxW2vrI/w-d-xo.html) i'm going to be keeping at it!
@@rahdo Although obviously not required for reviews, I’m glad that you (and SUASD and others) are taking the time to explore the social context of games when appropriate and that it’s making a tangible difference. Keep up the good work!
Being only half American and having grown up in Germany, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by straining, but IMHO I think as long as there are injustice and discrimination and all the other bad things of any kind going on the world, there cannot be enough people in the world speaking up to it. So I tip my hat to you Rahdo for taking the extra time whenever you see an opportunity. It's probably the least we can do, to take opportunities to at least stand in for every humans rights whenever we see one. No offense meant just my humble opinion.
I understand what the commenter means: on a 10 min review video, 5 minutes are dedicated to race and societal considerations in ancient Rome. This could be considered a bit excessive when Rahdo himself admits the game did it mostly right. Still, it is his perrogative.
@@MiguelSeabraMelo well, actually only 1 min 20 seconds devoted to consideration of race, and the rest is about thematic consideration in rulebook writing :)
I am very excited for Hadrian’s Wall. Have you looked at Three Sisters? I think you (and I and many others) will really like it. Seems like an improvement to Fleet TDG in many points.
Richard. I’ve always loved your videos but also the way you support other people. Your T-shirt in this video got me asking - where in the world are you located?
for the last 3 years, we've been in Washington state in the USA. For i think 6 or 7 years prior to that, we lived in Malta. and for 8 years prior to that, we lived in england. before that, 3 years in texas, 7 years in oregon, and most my teens and early adulthood in Washington state. So i've kind of returned home :)
When I first heard of this game, I thought this would be combo heaven. My wife and I enjoy Ganz/That's Pretty Clever but we felt the meat/combos of the game came too late for us. Most of the neat little combos came in around round 3. I could be wrong though. While watching your video I had the feeling that you can do a lot in 6 rounds. The house rule of starting in year 2 sounds like something to look into. Anxiously awaiting this. No shipment notification yet.
Always glad to see your wall and which games you actually kept. Looking forward to the German release of Merv and Cubitos p.e. This game has me intrigued. How would you rate this over Fleet the dice game?
I don't know if this is a problem with the game per se, but as a Jew the theme is quite triggering. Hadrian was known for his wall, but in our history he is most known for his murderous persecution of Jews in Judea and throughout the Empire. Many of those purple slaves were Jews who were taken from their families and homes, to work, assimilate, or die up north. I understand that every historical event or figure will have positives and negatives associated with it, and I don't think this should stand in the way of publishing this game or people enjoying it, but I personally won't be able to play this game.
totally understandable, and that's the kind of human perspective on the content i hope to see more from publishers, as i was talking about in this video. thanks for sharing this!
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This game looks like lots of fun. I think the instructions give a good general historical premise for the game and if causes an itch go find some scratches in books, shows or the internets, or other research the publisher doesn’t need to be a historical resource. Just my humble opinion.
doesn't need to, but considering tha they did all the research, and converted it into gameplay, why not share that behind the scenes stuff?
awesome awesome game, awesome awesome review and playthrough, and awesome awesome thoughts to listen to on the evolution of the hobby / industry / community regarding history perspectives and worldviews presented in the games
I am so stoked for this game. I have been looking for a roll and write with crunch. I hope this delivers. Thanks for the thoughts, Rahdo. I’m with you on limiting how much you can do so it incentives/varies additional plays. Good to know in advance
I feel like boardgames -can- be used to great affect as an education tool, however think that this is not it’s primary function, it’s a game first.
Crusaders is Similar, in so much as the inclusion of a bit more history would’ve been nice, but to be fair, it’s a solid game and fun anyways.
I shall check out Hadrian’s wall, thanks for your review.
publishers aren't obligated to, they have an opportunity to. and why wouldn't they, as it only increases the value and relevance of their product, for almost zero cost!
Totally agree, I play games as an escape. I don't seek too much reality or emphasis on overloading in my games. Different horses for courses I guess.
How does this compare to Rome & Roll? Which one is a better Roll and Write for solo play?
I think the rulebook actually really missed the mark when talking about slavery and how it is depicted. “We must not dishonour the lives of those who were forced into that history by erasing them.” But then proceeds to call them servants for the rest of the game. These people were not servants they were slaves, and by calling them servants the publisher is in fact erasing them. If your design is unable to handle a difficult historical topic, then pick a different setting.
yeah, it's a tricky balancing act. i give them credit for trying, but you do make a very fair and strong counter point!
Hey @Rahdo where did you get that shirt? It looks awesome.
smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GMGTPD6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 :)
Very happy I preordered this.
I applaud your general sensitivity, but you seem to be straining a bit lately.
after my success at getting more inclusivity in Furnace: boardgamegeek.com/thread/2527051/article/36479530#36479530
(which the publisher told me these changes only came about because i called it out in my video: th-cam.com/video/q2LeHxW2vrI/w-d-xo.html) i'm going to be keeping at it!
@@rahdo Although obviously not required for reviews, I’m glad that you (and SUASD and others) are taking the time to explore the social context of games when appropriate and that it’s making a tangible difference. Keep up the good work!
Being only half American and having grown up in Germany, I'm not sure what exactly you mean by straining, but IMHO I think as long as there are injustice and discrimination and all the other bad things of any kind going on the world, there cannot be enough people in the world speaking up to it. So I tip my hat to you Rahdo for taking the extra time whenever you see an opportunity. It's probably the least we can do, to take opportunities to at least stand in for every humans rights whenever we see one. No offense meant just my humble opinion.
I understand what the commenter means: on a 10 min review video, 5 minutes are dedicated to race and societal considerations in ancient Rome. This could be considered a bit excessive when Rahdo himself admits the game did it mostly right. Still, it is his perrogative.
@@MiguelSeabraMelo well, actually only 1 min 20 seconds devoted to consideration of race, and the rest is about thematic consideration in rulebook writing :)
I am very excited for Hadrian’s Wall. Have you looked at Three Sisters? I think you (and I and many others) will really like it. Seems like an improvement to Fleet TDG in many points.
i would love to check out three sisters, it looks great (plus we loved living in bend oregon, so there'd likely be some nice nostalgia there)
I can't decide between this and Three Sisters
GET BOTH!
Well, this one is available now. Three Sisters is still likely a half year away.
Thank you Rahdo for putting the minority issue in the forefront!
Richard. I’ve always loved your videos but also the way you support other people. Your T-shirt in this video got me asking - where in the world are you located?
for the last 3 years, we've been in Washington state in the USA. For i think 6 or 7 years prior to that, we lived in Malta. and for 8 years prior to that, we lived in england. before that, 3 years in texas, 7 years in oregon, and most my teens and early adulthood in Washington state. So i've kind of returned home :)
Looks like a game for me. Where can I get it (I live in the Netherlands)?
the publisher has a contact us form in the bottom right of their homepage, maybe you could get answers there: garphill.com/ :)
When I first heard of this game, I thought this would be combo heaven. My wife and I enjoy Ganz/That's Pretty Clever but we felt the meat/combos of the game came too late for us. Most of the neat little combos came in around round 3. I could be wrong though. While watching your video I had the feeling that you can do a lot in 6 rounds. The house rule of starting in year 2 sounds like something to look into.
Anxiously awaiting this. No shipment notification yet.
Thoughts now?
Always glad to see your wall and which games you actually kept. Looking forward to the German release of Merv and Cubitos p.e.
This game has me intrigued.
How would you rate this over Fleet the dice game?
i gave fleet:dg a 8.4, and this an 8.5 :)
@@rahdo Looks like a more demanding R&W. I will sure have a closer look! Thanks!
I was going to ask this
Which one is heavier or more complex? This or Paladins?
paladins, definitely :)
I see the board and its like... What a F ! it looks carzy
Is this game designed to kill analysis paralysis type of players?
there is a LOT to unpack in this game, no doubt! :)
And multi-use cards. Two kinds. Each with at 4 uses. That's a lot of multi-use!
Missed opportunity to say “this flip n write is flippen’ white”.
i did miss an opportunity there :)
Wow!
I don't know if this is a problem with the game per se, but as a Jew the theme is quite triggering. Hadrian was known for his wall, but in our history he is most known for his murderous persecution of Jews in Judea and throughout the Empire. Many of those purple slaves were Jews who were taken from their families and homes, to work, assimilate, or die up north. I understand that every historical event or figure will have positives and negatives associated with it, and I don't think this should stand in the way of publishing this game or people enjoying it, but I personally won't be able to play this game.
totally understandable, and that's the kind of human perspective on the content i hope to see more from publishers, as i was talking about in this video. thanks for sharing this!