@@thecheetosnflFor, Freakin, REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIKE SERIOUSLY, GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CHASE FORMAT, WITH THE 2004-2006 10 DRIVER/2004-2013 10 RACE FORMAT WITH CHASE POINTS, NO ELIMINATIONS AND NO POINTS RESETS ONLY FOR THE FREAKIN NASCAR CUP SERIES!!!!!!!!!
A lot of these changes weren't actually NASCAR's idea, they were demanded by the networks. The playoffs were demanded by NBC to boost end-of-season ratings, and the Caution Clock and stage racing were demanded by Fox and NBC to show more commercials.
@@davibarbosa1445I say the playoffs because few ideas they've had compound so many problems onto their product in one decision. As bad as it was, the overtime line could've at least been somewhat more tolerable with better officiating & a better points system. The caution clock is the only competitor to the playoffs regarding terrible ideas and only loses out in my mind because they caught the issue early.
People need to realize what is legal and what isn’t. You need to advance your position below the double yellow line for it to be illegal. Harrison Burton was literally in the lead so it was physically impossible for him to advance his position under the line. You can cry me a river all you want, Burton’s block was completely legal.
You and I agree on basically everything. Growing up, when Indiana was effectively on Central Time for most of the NASCAR season, races would start at 11am for us. Those were the good ol days.
Here is my proposal to fix races ending under caution: Bring back the overtime line, but now its in effect on the white flag. If a wreck occurs before the Leader hits it, rack em up and go again. If they wreck after the Leader hits it, they race back to the line. The key here is to place it as late as possible on the track so that racing back to the line wouldn't really compromise safety. I would put it on the exit of turn 4. worst case scenario is just to bring out the caution if they wreck after they cross the overtime line and the winner would be whoever was the leader at moment of caution, but that's still miles better than what we have now. I think the overtime line could work very well if they implemented it like this
Also I would like it if they increased the number of laps for overtime, because 2 laps really isn't enough time to race, especially at super speedways. I say give them 3 laps on the first overtime, and 2 for all of the remaining overtimes. At least this way they would have an opportunity to get up to speed on the first attempt
@@CoolCat_24x on the superspeedways they wil wait until the exit of 2 of final lap to make some real moves anyway, so there's no need for more laps in overtime
@@ming454 It takes them about a lap to get up to speed at superspeedways, which means in an overtime situation they really only get 1 full lap to race. giving the pack more time to get going and let people form runs would make the racing better
Actually the caution clock debuted at the first race of the 2016 season. I remember this because the very first time it was due to expire it caused a huge wreck on pit road.
They tried removing stage break cautious at road courses last year and it provided boring racing. I was at the 2023 watkins glen race and other than a caution for chase Elliot running out of gas William Bryon ran away with the win and it was the fastest race in modern nascar history
Inconsistency with cautions and penalties goes beyond anything else I think. I can talk about the car, engine rules, etc but one thing that’s always been a problem is them not following their own rule book since I started watching.
Instead of stage cautions they gotta just have a set point in the middle of the race where they quietly give points without a yellow, the way the Rolex 24 does
They used to do that but with bonus money at the halfway point back in the 80s/90s, it was tied in to a contest on at least ESPN in that if you correctly picked who was leading at halfway you'd be in the running to win a Corvette or a Camaro or something like that, and the drivers got a nice bit of money for leading at halfway as well
To add to the late start times, the Southern 500 starting at 6pm this year is pretty very odd to me. Something about having to stay up late on Sunday night If I want to see the race just bugs me. I mean if it gets rain delayed for even and hour, it has to finish on Monday. Saturday night races like this past weekend are 100x better.
You left off one of the worst decisions that actually caused NASCAR to do all the things you mentioned in your video....... the 2000 single network TV contract. It all started when NASCAR went to the "one network" contact with FOX start with the 2001 season (which they sublet some to NBC). You don't intentionally limit your exposure/coverage! The ratings have been slowly backsliding since which led to the playoffs, stage cautions, overtimes, green clocks, single source parts to pack up the field, charters and shifting start times. Before that you had races on CBS, ABC, NBC, ESPN, TBS & TNN..... even Showtime had races, plus they were not in group blocks, so each network reminded you to watch NASCAR while promoting their next respective race in a couple weeks. Plus each network had a vested interest to have some kind of coverage of the sport even if they did not have the race that week. In the same time period, the NFL, MLB, NHL and NBA all INCREASED the number of networks covering their sport all while NASCAR decreased its coverage. Let me put it this way, if you owned a business, would you want 6 people talking/promoting your business or just one person?
It sucked that NASCAR actually tried the eliminate the stage cautions last year and instead went back to bringing them out at the road courses, even though the strategy was actually much better. But apparently it was too boring for nascar
For the dumb rules video, you need to go over the what the actual fuckery that was the early 1991 season pit road rules, after a fatal pit road crash at the 1990 Atlanta season ending race. It literally changed every single event, and it was born out of good intentions but oh it was a spectacular clusterfuck, and eventually led to the pit road speed limit as we know it. Oh and even ESPN had a hard time keeping up too, let alone the teams and drivers, too.
The rules, AFAIK, were only in effect for the first 5 or 6 races of the 1991 season, and afterwards they simply implemented pit road speed limits like we have today.
It really is all these gimmicks starting with the 2004 season that makes nascar unwatchable for me. I grew up a Dale Sr. fan and try so hard from time to time to give nascar another chance…and so often it’s just not much more than WWE on 4 wheels. There’s better racing on a random Tuesday night
Very soon NASCAR is going to mandate overtime for every race. Leader completes the full race distance, caution is thrown, chaos ensues just like the France’s want.
Stop watching and attending races until enough money is lost that the France Kennedys have to sell the sport. That’s the only chance of things getting better.
You might think stages are bad But people just be grateful we don’t have a automatic caution every 20 minutes Also Harrison Burton Won Daytona He was 34TH in points and now he’s in the playoffs WTF!!??💀 FIX THE SYSTEM NASCAR!!
Stages save the teams with garbage equipment. Why set the car up for the race when you know there are three stages. You just set the car up to run the stage. Shorter runs, save the garbage teams.
man why can't we all just BOYCOTT nascar until they give us what they want just everyone stops watching simultaneously 0 viewers every week until they give the fans what they want
You sure that siren wasn't summoned by the France family to squash any dissent of their "obviously fantastic ideas"? Even if you only have 2,000 subscribers?
@@duncachinoahimiha3889 no, the electoral college literally makes no sense whatsoever and is completely illegitimate. It's a goddamn gimmick from hell and causes more problems than it "solves"
@@duncachinoahimiha3889 nah it's just true. You're just mad cuz you know the electoral college is bullshit and the only way you've gotten any elephant shit into the white house at all since the turn of the century
Dude just give us the information. Youre over the top with the bullshit. 1st and last video im watching of you.
who pissed in your cereal
Bro got hearted and pinned
If want someone to just read info from Wikipedia, you got Black Flags Matter for that dude
@@snitchracer6952 Ah, sh-! XD
pin of shame, womp womp
The biggest gripe i have with the Playoffs is ... WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY CALLED PLAYOFFS? It's not a ball sport, we're RACING not PLAYING
What do you want it to be called then? Raceoffs?
I know! Just go back to calling it the Chase for the Cup, it’s unique to NASCAR and more descriptive than NASCAR Playoffs
BREAKING NEWS:
NASCAR changed the playoffs to the raceoffs.
@@thecheetosnflFor, Freakin, REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIKE SERIOUSLY, GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CHASE FORMAT, WITH THE 2004-2006 10 DRIVER/2004-2013 10 RACE FORMAT WITH CHASE POINTS, NO ELIMINATIONS AND NO POINTS RESETS ONLY FOR THE FREAKIN NASCAR CUP SERIES!!!!!!!!!
These videos have so much scott the woz energy and I love it.
Same here
He’s just nascar Scott
that’s like my two favorite things combined
@@theoctolingsociety1004 I know
NAScott the woz
“Fuck Austin Dillion”
**POWER COMES BACK**
A lot of these changes weren't actually NASCAR's idea, they were demanded by the networks. The playoffs were demanded by NBC to boost end-of-season ratings, and the Caution Clock and stage racing were demanded by Fox and NBC to show more commercials.
so basically NBC was mostly at fault for NASCAR's downfall
"NASCAR took another hit off the crack pipe and came up with stage racing."
*Brian France enters the chat*
happiest motorsports enjoyer be like:
Your house is powered by hater energy? Where'd you get that tech from, Monsters Inc.? 😂
Worst thing they’ve done is playoffs and also stages
Stages would be better without the cautions.
The sprint isn’t that bad but the new playoffs suck
The worst thing that i think NASCAR had done was The Overtime Line
Fr
Got one better: Playoffs.
Id say the overtime@@ZorkuAravar
@@davibarbosa1445I say the playoffs because few ideas they've had compound so many problems onto their product in one decision. As bad as it was, the overtime line could've at least been somewhat more tolerable with better officiating & a better points system. The caution clock is the only competitor to the playoffs regarding terrible ideas and only loses out in my mind because they caught the issue early.
I’ll never forget when the truck series did the 20 minute caution clock. That was such a joke 😂
You & Eric Estepp Gotta do a collab
yes
This aged like wine. The worst driver this season won under a block that just 5 years ago was deemed illegal. They are now in the playoffs.
Cody Ware is the worst driver my dude. Come on now
People need to realize what is legal and what isn’t. You need to advance your position below the double yellow line for it to be illegal. Harrison Burton was literally in the lead so it was physically impossible for him to advance his position under the line. You can cry me a river all you want, Burton’s block was completely legal.
We need a collaboration with Scott the woz
You and I agree on basically everything. Growing up, when Indiana was effectively on Central Time for most of the NASCAR season, races would start at 11am for us. Those were the good ol days.
truly an Austin Dillon hater moment
Wait, you've only been making vids for a few months!? Making good shit my guy!
Here is my proposal to fix races ending under caution: Bring back the overtime line, but now its in effect on the white flag. If a wreck occurs before the Leader hits it, rack em up and go again. If they wreck after the Leader hits it, they race back to the line. The key here is to place it as late as possible on the track so that racing back to the line wouldn't really compromise safety. I would put it on the exit of turn 4. worst case scenario is just to bring out the caution if they wreck after they cross the overtime line and the winner would be whoever was the leader at moment of caution, but that's still miles better than what we have now. I think the overtime line could work very well if they implemented it like this
Also I would like it if they increased the number of laps for overtime, because 2 laps really isn't enough time to race, especially at super speedways. I say give them 3 laps on the first overtime, and 2 for all of the remaining overtimes. At least this way they would have an opportunity to get up to speed on the first attempt
@@CoolCat_24x on the superspeedways they wil wait until the exit of 2 of final lap to make some real moves anyway, so there's no need for more laps in overtime
@@ming454 It takes them about a lap to get up to speed at superspeedways, which means in an overtime situation they really only get 1 full lap to race. giving the pack more time to get going and let people form runs would make the racing better
Actually the caution clock debuted at the first race of the 2016 season. I remember this because the very first time it was due to expire it caused a huge wreck on pit road.
Amother banger. The humor adds a great element to these. A+
Underrated Gem of a channel
Subbed!
There should be a Voegs2go video clock
Don't you put that evil on me
Literally just had one of your videos up before I clicked on this one
Love the Scott the Woz style! Deserves more attention!
Dude we started the Pocono Xfinity race at 4:30. Like bro any delay or red flag and it’s dark 😂
They tried removing stage break cautious at road courses last year and it provided boring racing. I was at the 2023 watkins glen race and other than a caution for chase Elliot running out of gas William Bryon ran away with the win and it was the fastest race in modern nascar history
I really love your energy! Gained a sub 😊
2:43, look at the leader board, what the hell?
Never clicked faster in my life. Another banger!
4:50 lol he kinda sounded like Mad Quagmire
Inconsistency with cautions and penalties goes beyond anything else I think. I can talk about the car, engine rules, etc but one thing that’s always been a problem is them not following their own rule book since I started watching.
12:04 Well…per 2016 Overtime rules the video will end because we crossed half way great job Voegs
0:47 Restrictor plates! Oh.. yeah that too..
You’re page is amazing binging everything immediately
Instead of stage cautions they gotta just have a set point in the middle of the race where they quietly give points without a yellow, the way the Rolex 24 does
They used to do that but with bonus money at the halfway point back in the 80s/90s, it was tied in to a contest on at least ESPN in that if you correctly picked who was leading at halfway you'd be in the running to win a Corvette or a Camaro or something like that, and the drivers got a nice bit of money for leading at halfway as well
To add to the late start times, the Southern 500 starting at 6pm this year is pretty very odd to me. Something about having to stay up late on Sunday night If I want to see the race just bugs me. I mean if it gets rain delayed for even and hour, it has to finish on Monday. Saturday night races like this past weekend are 100x better.
I just became your 2,000th subscriber!
I hate The Chase so much... You a degree in Rocket Science to understand the point system now. NASCAR full of synthetic drama now, it's so dumb.
The Scott the woz of NASCAR and I LOVE IT
You left off one of the worst decisions that actually caused NASCAR to do all the things you mentioned in your video....... the 2000 single network TV contract. It all started when NASCAR went to the "one network" contact with FOX start with the 2001 season (which they sublet some to NBC). You don't intentionally limit your exposure/coverage! The ratings have been slowly backsliding since which led to the playoffs, stage cautions, overtimes, green clocks, single source parts to pack up the field, charters and shifting start times.
Before that you had races on CBS, ABC, NBC, ESPN, TBS & TNN..... even Showtime had races, plus they were not in group blocks, so each network reminded you to watch NASCAR while promoting their next respective race in a couple weeks. Plus each network had a vested interest to have some kind of coverage of the sport even if they did not have the race that week.
In the same time period, the NFL, MLB, NHL and NBA all INCREASED the number of networks covering their sport all while NASCAR decreased its coverage. Let me put it this way, if you owned a business, would you want 6 people talking/promoting your business or just one person?
10:45 i was at this race, i fucking stormed down the damn seats on the last lap and decided to never go to a fucking cup race again
Great Video!
Ryan preece was also the reason for the caution at Pocono in 2023
It sucked that NASCAR actually tried the eliminate the stage cautions last year and instead went back to bringing them out at the road courses, even though the strategy was actually much better. But apparently it was too boring for nascar
10:45 i was at this race, i fucking stormed down the damn bleechers on the last lap and was about ready to chuck crush my phone with my fucking hands
🗣️Can’t Swim mentioned🗣️
Bro the intro was peak 😂
For the dumb rules video, you need to go over the what the actual fuckery that was the early 1991 season pit road rules, after a fatal pit road crash at the 1990 Atlanta season ending race.
It literally changed every single event, and it was born out of good intentions but oh it was a spectacular clusterfuck, and eventually led to the pit road speed limit as we know it. Oh and even ESPN had a hard time keeping up too, let alone the teams and drivers, too.
The rules, AFAIK, were only in effect for the first 5 or 6 races of the 1991 season, and afterwards they simply implemented pit road speed limits like we have today.
That was already on the list lol
It really is all these gimmicks starting with the 2004 season that makes nascar unwatchable for me. I grew up a Dale Sr. fan and try so hard from time to time to give nascar another chance…and so often it’s just not much more than WWE on 4 wheels. There’s better racing on a random Tuesday night
Very soon NASCAR is going to mandate overtime for every race. Leader completes the full race distance, caution is thrown, chaos ensues just like the France’s want.
I love NASCAR but the playoff system is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.
The Overtimes are getting ridiculous. It's like watching Kenny die and come back the next episode.
This video reminds me of Kurt Busch, But I can’t put my finger on why….
the hater energy bit is TOP content on this platform
What's "TOP content"?
@@snitchracer6952 happy birthday!
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
NASCAR Fan REVOLUTION!
Playoffs in racing is pretty damn stupid
Stop watching and attending races until enough money is lost that the France Kennedys have to sell the sport. That’s the only chance of things getting better.
You look like Scott the Woz from an alternate universe
You might think stages are bad
But people just be grateful we don’t have a automatic caution every 20 minutes
Also Harrison Burton Won Daytona
He was 34TH in points and now he’s in the playoffs
WTF!!??💀 FIX THE SYSTEM NASCAR!!
I agree with awarding points but keep the race green
Great video, keep up the good work. Well, when you get your house fixed.
Honorable mention the dumb ass caution they threw at the Texas all star race 2022 🥴
Everything besides saftey after 2005 is a nascar worst decision
More videos please! 😂 Your hilarious and correct
Michael Mrucz collab when?
Indy was forgivable, cause they were preventing something way worse
Stages save the teams with garbage equipment. Why set the car up for the race when you know there are three stages.
You just set the car up to run the stage. Shorter runs, save the garbage teams.
Just subbed
should get rid of double file restarts
NASCAR fans are the type of fan who see a 16 over 1 upset in March Madness and declare that this means the system is illegitimate.
man why can't we all just BOYCOTT nascar until they give us what they want
just everyone stops watching simultaneously
0 viewers every week
until they give the fans what they want
What happened to single file restarts
i think this might be a Nitpick but the car numbers are WAY too far forward and that bothers me a lot
Especially when there is empty space begging for the number to be moved back
stage racing was the DUMBEST thing
Let's ask carl Edward's about some of nascar's decisions? 🤔😆
You sure that siren wasn't summoned by the France family to squash any dissent of their "obviously fantastic ideas"? Even if you only have 2,000 subscribers?
Goated video Frfr
Get rid of stage racing
I hate Austian Dillon to
Couple things I disagree with but otherwise great video. Glad TH-cam recommended it to me.
1:03 i heard the emptiness in your head from that smack
Nascars fans are thr worst lol
was uh. was that english
at least they are better than f1 fans
Fifty second
*What the Hell is Wrong with NASCAR Right now?* 🏁
NASCAR Playoffs makes as much sense as the electoral college
“I don’t understand politics but brought politics into a NASCAR video for no reason”
@@duncachinoahimiha3889 no, the electoral college literally makes no sense whatsoever and is completely illegitimate. It's a goddamn gimmick from hell and causes more problems than it "solves"
Perfect analogy
@@duncachinoahimiha3889 nah it's just true. You're just mad cuz you know the electoral college is bullshit and the only way you've gotten any elephant shit into the white house at all since the turn of the century
Ah yes. The guy brings politics into literally anything