Guys please put Maister on the title. The dude doesn't deserve this. Edit: Alright I understand. Long title = bad performance on videos. But for someone looking from outside, there's no indication that Maister (someone who contributes to the podcast just as much as Leo) is in this video at all. At least put him on the thumbnail. You could also cut out the redundant stuff like '& If Kazuya is top 5' because we all know that topic is going to be brought up the moment we knew Riddles was in the video.
TH-cam titles perform best with 60-70 characters in them. We only have so many words that we can put in a title without it being too long and causing the video to perform poorly. MKLeo, Riddles & Maister Talk About New Mains & If Kazuya is Top 5 is wayyyyyyyyyyy too long. Maister has been in the last 2 titles for the podcasts, is in the very top of the description and has links to his socials as well. It really is not that deep saying "he doesn't deserve it". TY
I think Leo continuing to adjust his character lineup both makes him exciting to watch and shows his versatility in keeping a consistent stable of characters. The end game of ultimate is definitely folks making character counterpicks.
This should also be the endgame for melee soon tbh, (don't hate on me meleetards) with people maining samus or falcon just to deal with fox, but for ultimate, I do think it's just gonna be whoever has the better character overall and they're just forced to stay as that character until they lose a game but that person has map picks for winning while the opponent only has character picks instead if they lose, it'll definitely change the ruleset that people play in today if this happens
As a Leo fan I disagree about the Marth coming out. He seems fixated on other characters. He refused to play Corrin despite his success with her, and the same is happening with Marth. He didn't even optimize the characters to their full potential but he clearly does not want to play them as much as Joker and Roy. Also the ROB magically disappeared too.
@@Spyder-Marth i honestly think he's just tired of marth, I mean he literally mained him for most of sm4sh, corrin's situation is a bit different since I actually don't know why he wouldn't want to play her.
Yeah it definitely came off pretty stilted to keep saying it after the first time, must be in their notes to not just call it the luminosity invitational
46:44 something no one talks about is how only fast characters could run through characters, and big characters like Bowser couldn't be dashed through. So it really benefited top tiers and hurt slower high/mid tiers that were already bad
I personally think it makes jumping around better than it needs to be. More mixups if they just made it a better version of smash 4 running through people.
So we got Riddles and DABUZ in the invitational. EE spoils that SHADIC is attending. That means only 2 players left. My guess is that it will be Zomba and Peabnut.
as a Link player I could see them changing him to TOTK Link in a future game - though I personally am apprehensive of that since I love Remote Bomb so much. but also most of TOTK Link's abilities feel so different from Smash Link that idk if they'd want to revamp the character to such an extent.
Minmin is from a nintendo IP, and one that performed really well. (would have preferred ninjara) but I'm pretty sure ARMS is getting a sequel (game outsold most FGC games not named smash) and they'll probably bring back binbin or choose another character to add.
Riddles' Cloud was obviously untested, unpolished, clearly a brand new character he was learning. And yet he put up a fight against Onin. No disrespect to Riddles, he's one of the best players in the meta, has experience from Spargo on optimal Cloud play, and Cloud is easy to play by average Smash character standards while Riddles' line up contains some of the most technically involved characters in the cast, but that Steve matchup has to be in Cloud's favor. I bet Riddles while vod reviewing thought to himself "Aw man I could have done a Rising Dair to spike Onin in one of those edgeguarding situations I put him in". Or perhaps Onin was being too lax and I should be giving him for flack.
@@kava3957 Fair, but I would imagine there's some leniency in calling a character new when there's not much data using them in bracket. To give an example, Leo did a video on his channel about himself having the potential to be the best Roy some years back. It's only now we're seeing his Roy in bracket. But I suppose you could say I'm giving Riddles too much credit and he does have a good amount of experience with Cloud and he can't just whip out a character he played for a couple weeks and go toe to toe with one of the best Steve players in the world.
😂 lol smash kids dont get it. Most podcast only have 1 or 2 people in the thumbnail. Even if its nba or financial podcast. Keep doing the thumbnails how yall doing it
I come for Leo to talk, but as everyone says, Maister is actually the secret (or not so secret) moving force for these videos, whether its in a script or not (I don't know how these videos are made under Luminosity). If not in the title, at least thumbnail insert him?
Yo smash seems more copetitive then ever. Everyone is beating more top level players. I mean bottom 32 beating top 32 it is just amazing. I love it since I love this game :)
theyre prolly not doing a deluxe version of ultimate, because think of how long ago it was that they abandoned this game, they defo have the time to make a new one even with every character i hope they make a new one but dont cut characters, because i actually could not deal with another lik 10 years of fighters pass 2 without them being nerfed into the ground that being said, ultimate fundamentally is a good game, so if they just gave it a graphics update for the new hardware, rollback netcode, and start giving balance patchs again itd be good, but then the big question would be why tf did they abandon the game so early for switch? tbh the only fundamental thing id change about ultimate is neutral get up having 1 frame of vulnerability is ridiculous and its just an annoying barrier of entry offline, but online it can make some characters straight up trash because the inconsistency in the delay and lacking lingering moves makes it more difficult to punish then it should be obviously the netcode, give the game dedicated servers and rollback, its crazy that mario kart gets a better online experience then ultimate change some movement BS, like how riddles was talking about FGC characters cant dash back and shield, or how falcon has a long ass turn around for no reason and, uh, obviously we better see alot more characters, stages, and content in general if they abandoned the game for this long just to rerelease it on the next console obviously the most important thing is alot of content, visual improvements for the new hardware and a netcode thats actually acceptable
They're likely not gonna mention Kola whatsoever, there's like in-between-the-lines beef between Kola and Leo (feels very apparent since that whole thing with Leo saying Kola fell off/Roy wasn't meta etc)
@Sancnea exactly surely we wouldn't listen to the best smash players in the world but the true underground king humbly waiting to cast his chance on taking over the smash world
Guys please put Maister on the title. The dude doesn't deserve this.
Edit: Alright I understand. Long title = bad performance on videos. But for someone looking from outside, there's no indication that Maister (someone who contributes to the podcast just as much as Leo) is in this video at all. At least put him on the thumbnail. You could also cut out the redundant stuff like '& If Kazuya is top 5' because we all know that topic is going to be brought up the moment we knew Riddles was in the video.
i was going to saw the same thing 👍
fr they should definetly do that
Fr he’s basically the moderator of the podcast with most of his and leo’s episodes being him interviewing leo
TH-cam titles perform best with 60-70 characters in them. We only have so many words that we can put in a title without it being too long and causing the video to perform poorly.
MKLeo, Riddles & Maister Talk About New Mains & If Kazuya is Top 5 is wayyyyyyyyyyy too long.
Maister has been in the last 2 titles for the podcasts, is in the very top of the description and has links to his socials as well. It really is not that deep saying "he doesn't deserve it". TY
would look crowded, it wouldn’t look good as a title. plus leo name gets more clicks
Maister is really the driving force of this podcast.
Maister needs more recognition. His personality completely carries this podcast. Just an enjoyable dude to listen to
Whoever invited Riddles to speak was cooking
Maister needs to be on the thumbnails man
This is true. One kf the big reasons I watch these vids is bc of him
Just so you know Luminosity, Maister is the player that carries this channel. Dude is amazing at talking and entertaining as hell
Real ones know Maister is just omitted from the title, bc u kno he's mandatory
True its maister's show
Yeah I kind of always thought of it as just HIS podcast, but considering Leo is about as regular it is pretty off
Show Maister some love man why is he never on the titles nor the thumbnails
Are you dumb? He's on the previous ones
I agree please put maisters name on the title
We demand maister love
Hes the heart of it, keeps the convo flowing
I think Leo continuing to adjust his character lineup both makes him exciting to watch and shows his versatility in keeping a consistent stable of characters. The end game of ultimate is definitely folks making character counterpicks.
This should also be the endgame for melee soon tbh, (don't hate on me meleetards) with people maining samus or falcon just to deal with fox, but for ultimate, I do think it's just gonna be whoever has the better character overall and they're just forced to stay as that character until they lose a game but that person has map picks for winning while the opponent only has character picks instead if they lose, it'll definitely change the ruleset that people play in today if this happens
putting "dont hate on me meleetards" preemptively doesnt really make a great case for your post's likeability...
Honestly it makes complete sense to only have leo and riddles in the thumbnail. They are the guests after all
I love that they actually put the cat cameo in the video chapters lmao
shoutouts to maister
Maister needs more credit hes the goat of luminosity man he actually carrys every conversation and makes the videos way better my goat solos
So
1.Tweek
2.Leo
3.Maister
4.Sonix
5.Riddles
6.Dabuz
7. Shadic
8. Sparg0 (surely)
9. Light (edited, forgot)
10.
EE leaked that Light was going on Lights Out 💀
light was confirmed on lights out podcast, my guess for last is either a japan player or gluto
Sparg0 has another Mexican tournament for the 20th 🥲
I think Zomba
@@kajin2422where did u get that info from?
Mkleo gonna have a massive powerup on 4/20 the marth will come out
As a Leo fan I disagree about the Marth coming out. He seems fixated on other characters. He refused to play Corrin despite his success with her, and the same is happening with Marth. He didn't even optimize the characters to their full potential but he clearly does not want to play them as much as Joker and Roy.
Also the ROB magically disappeared too.
@@Spyder-Marth yeah he realistically isn't going marth but if he's mkfuego on 4/20 who knows what he'll pick :)
@@Spyder-Marth i honestly think he's just tired of marth, I mean he literally mained him for most of sm4sh, corrin's situation is a bit different since I actually don't know why he wouldn't want to play her.
The 4/20 pack gonna be lit!
When riddles said im dying in one hit or maybe two or three lol. Thats hilarious and ironic, but he was talking about steve and he was right lolol
Maister is the EE of this podcast
Don’t insult Maister like that.
Maister is annoying and punchable asf tf you saying
Maister needs to be included in the video title
if there are 120 characters then squad strike needs to be the main event for tournaments imo, and squad strike NEEDS to be a mode online
now THIS is a spicy hot take. i appreciate that lol
maister carries this podcast ngl
Kroger must be paying you guys well with how often you said, "presented by Kroger Gaming."
Yeah it definitely came off pretty stilted to keep saying it after the first time, must be in their notes to not just call it the luminosity invitational
Kroger getting into the Smash Community changes where I will buy groceries from. That is cool.
Yup
It's called GOAT Talk cuz Maister is the GOAT host, right?
46:44 something no one talks about is how only fast characters could run through characters, and big characters like Bowser couldn't be dashed through. So it really benefited top tiers and hurt slower high/mid tiers that were already bad
I personally think it makes jumping around better than it needs to be. More mixups if they just made it a better version of smash 4 running through people.
great episode!
32:57 I think for FGC chars they should give the option to turn off or turn on auto-turn around
We need more Riddles cameos
Thanks to this podcast, it helps me know more about smash stuff and improve my English listening skill haha
hold on but did yall know that the luminosity invitational is presented by kroger gaming?!
So Cola decided to leave the smash community and nonmore tournament runs so he gave his wisdom to MkL and Riddles
People are complaining about the title of the video, but it pretty accurate tbh.
So we got Riddles and DABUZ in the invitational. EE spoils that SHADIC is attending. That means only 2 players left. My guess is that it will be Zomba and Peabnut.
Leo's Sora is gonna go KRAZY
sora alr crazyy character. w/ leo behind the wheel??? damn.
@@nap_time_ people wanted to see this as well as pit tbh
The M in MKLeo stands for Maister in my head canon
Leo was taking notes in his head right there lol
as a Link player I could see them changing him to TOTK Link in a future game - though I personally am apprehensive of that since I love Remote Bomb so much. but also most of TOTK Link's abilities feel so different from Smash Link that idk if they'd want to revamp the character to such an extent.
Riddles is the man
Let’s go riddles finally on
I think leo would be the greatest hero if he wanted to. It's a slow character, and leo made byleth what it is even tho it's a slow character
menu presses are definitely his biggest enemy if he does go hero
I love Maister
Yo this lineup tho??? I love these 3
They should invite Hurt ( Japanese snake player ) he’s hot off a major win too
Minmin is from a nintendo IP, and one that performed really well. (would have preferred ninjara) but I'm pretty sure ARMS is getting a sequel (game outsold most FGC games not named smash) and they'll probably bring back binbin or choose another character to add.
Doesn't Maister make theses videos?
Luminosity purposely not including Maister in the thumbnails to drive user engagement in the comments lmao.
Them leaving Maister off the title and thumbnail probably drives engagement crazy lol. Maybe that’s why they do it.
Riddles' Cloud was obviously untested, unpolished, clearly a brand new character he was learning. And yet he put up a fight against Onin. No disrespect to Riddles, he's one of the best players in the meta, has experience from Spargo on optimal Cloud play, and Cloud is easy to play by average Smash character standards while Riddles' line up contains some of the most technically involved characters in the cast, but that Steve matchup has to be in Cloud's favor. I bet Riddles while vod reviewing thought to himself "Aw man I could have done a Rising Dair to spike Onin in one of those edgeguarding situations I put him in". Or perhaps Onin was being too lax and I should be giving him for flack.
He’s played cloud on his stream from way back. Not a new character he was learning.
@@kava3957 Fair, but I would imagine there's some leniency in calling a character new when there's not much data using them in bracket. To give an example, Leo did a video on his channel about himself having the potential to be the best Roy some years back. It's only now we're seeing his Roy in bracket.
But I suppose you could say I'm giving Riddles too much credit and he does have a good amount of experience with Cloud and he can't just whip out a character he played for a couple weeks and go toe to toe with one of the best Steve players in the world.
LG Invitational Roster???
Leo, Maister, Tweek, Light, Riddles, Sonix, Spargo, Shadic, Zomba, Dabuz???
Cmon leo just ask him how to beat him! Lol jk bro love ya guys!
last 3 has to be like spargo + two japan maybe? They are kinda destroying NA so it'd be cool to see runbacks
Kazuya is 100% top 5
I saw MkLeo fight that Hero that did the hocus pocus enlarge on stream, his name was DatDerpDog, i remember because that was a funny name
😂 lol smash kids dont get it. Most podcast only have 1 or 2 people in the thumbnail. Even if its nba or financial podcast. Keep doing the thumbnails how yall doing it
I agree
I come for Leo to talk, but as everyone says, Maister is actually the secret (or not so secret) moving force for these videos, whether its in a script or not (I don't know how these videos are made under Luminosity).
If not in the title, at least thumbnail insert him?
i get what you’re saying but isn’t he the host so everyone can just assume he will be it?
Riddles and the goats
A goat and the goats
Yo smash seems more copetitive then ever. Everyone is beating more top level players. I mean bottom 32 beating top 32 it is just amazing. I love it since I love this game :)
My favorite smash bros podcast and my favorite smash bros player. What a great day
theyre prolly not doing a deluxe version of ultimate, because think of how long ago it was that they abandoned this game, they defo have the time to make a new one even with every character
i hope they make a new one but dont cut characters, because i actually could not deal with another lik 10 years of fighters pass 2 without them being nerfed into the ground
that being said, ultimate fundamentally is a good game, so if they just gave it a graphics update for the new hardware, rollback netcode, and start giving balance patchs again itd be good, but then the big question would be why tf did they abandon the game so early for switch?
tbh the only fundamental thing id change about ultimate is neutral get up having 1 frame of vulnerability is ridiculous and its just an annoying barrier of entry offline, but online it can make some characters straight up trash because the inconsistency in the delay and lacking lingering moves makes it more difficult to punish then it should be
obviously the netcode, give the game dedicated servers and rollback, its crazy that mario kart gets a better online experience then ultimate
change some movement BS, like how riddles was talking about FGC characters cant dash back and shield, or how falcon has a long ass turn around for no reason
and, uh, obviously we better see alot more characters, stages, and content in general if they abandoned the game for this long just to rerelease it on the next console
obviously the most important thing is alot of content, visual improvements for the new hardware and a netcode thats actually acceptable
FreeMaister
It’s mad that maister is never in the titles
Since Shadic is already confirmed, i hope the last two are Japanese players.
Put maister in the thumbnails
Press 9 for the run
So did Kola play a part in Leo maining roy or....
They're likely not gonna mention Kola whatsoever, there's like in-between-the-lines beef between Kola and Leo (feels very apparent since that whole thing with Leo saying Kola fell off/Roy wasn't meta etc)
I mean I doubt it. I am sur the has been always considering it for a while
i want riddles in luminosity :/
Oh is Maister not in this video?
Rizzles needs to be on more podcasts, he’s just a good personality
Kazuya is like 7 or 8 within top 10 but not top 5
Nah. Hes called the blue man for a reason. Top 5
Kazuya’s disadvantage is the only thing holding him back from being top 5 imo.
Poor maister left out of the title lol
In pretty sure EE already spoiled the other 2
Why do i feel like JaZaR will be invited?
I don't have a strong opinion on where kazuya is on tier list, but I do have a strong opinion on the character being a bag of b.s.++
Presented by Kroeger™
i got braces today so maybe i could be the best smash pro ?
I'm about to get braces, do they hurt???
@@dripfoe_3307they will at first you might even have trouble chewing and eating
@@kava3957 Bet
Watch was it just so happenes dabuz gets put against leo round 1
26:50 XD
Catzuya
❤
kola next
That would be lit I Kola is one of my favorite Players
i HATE playing against corrin or playing her /him.
mkleo wins luminosity invitational
Please change the name, it's pretty cringey and the hosts call it "goat talks"
Leo is the GOAT of ultimate in terms of all time results wdym?
Oh dog I got scared Riddles joined Luminosity LMAO I almost unsubbed
kayuza is not top five iam not a pro btw
lol😂 everyone hate pikachu so much😂😂😂 still saying its top 5…..
My Goat is washed man 🥲🥲🥲
Now kazuya deniers can eat it up and a face the fact their character is brainfead and broken. Kazuya top 5
Kazuya isn't top 5. Yall just don't know how to play vs Kazuya
Kazuya top 1
And I'm not bias even tho my main +2 Kazuya
The top rep of the character is the one saying it. But fupalover says otherwise so I guess everyone sucks and fupalover will show us the way.
@Sancnea exactly surely we wouldn't listen to the best smash players in the world but the true underground king humbly waiting to cast his chance on taking over the smash world
@@Sancnea If you wanna be a sheep be a sheep.
Bro riddles sux, he got destroyed by that min min player, 1 min. match come on bruh
u wouldn't do better
@@NaughtyPigMario yeah cuz I'm not a pro player, this is not my living.
So what he got cheesed by min min
@@theelectricant98 that isn't cheesed bro stop sucking up to a guy you don't even know
Im a RiddlesEnjoyer69
I’m here for Maister 🫡