I rocked mine until it broke on me....for dripping it way too many timez😂...so it gave me a reason to try the pixel fold🙌. If you ever leave that ship the pixel fold is a great alternative
I'm a simple man. I see surface duo I click the video, watch and like. That's said, I've been through almost all the popular phones and the duo is the only one that remotely feels like a cool futuristic device that is timeless. The rest of them just feel like slabs copying each other honestly. The folding phones are novel but I'm honestly blown away that the concept of a literal moleskin dual screen notebook phone didn't catch on way more than it did. And you can draw on these devices and root them and put different operating systems on them. Honestly they're probably the coolest devices Microsoft has ever made in the phone space. I am so unimaginably heartbroken that they just won't continue this line of devices. Same thing with the surface book. Now they have this horrifically ugly device called the surface studio or whatever it's called. Whoever was calling the shots at Microsoft's product design division was an industrial design genius and they must have been let go.
I love the three app triangle on the OnePlus open. I have maps and my music app open as portrait side by side windows and use a OBD2 scanner app full screen on the bottom to monitor some temps in my older car.
i have the surface studio laptop 2 and its ugly and heavy but its also the first laptop where you can switch to using the pen input in 1 second which means its something i actually end up using, unlike the countless other 2in1 devices ive tried over the years, including the surface book, where i never used the pen enough as i should have cos it would take 5+ to switch modes. the thing could be 10 times uglier i still would have bought it
@@zankfrappa93 I guess it depends on your use case. With my surface book I almost never take it out of the notebook mode where I can draw on it easily and I only use the other mode when I don't want to draw and only need to type a document or something so I guess I didn't notice that pro of the surface studio. My gripe is not being able to separate it from the keyboard base forcing me to always have a heavy large device which almost kills my desire to draw on it unless I'm at a desk in which case I could just use a proper drawing monitor like the surface studio desktops. I guess I could just never see the use case for the surface studio laptop myself.
@@1GamersRewind yea im mostly at a desk at home or on the couch. its never left the house cos its too expensive to be bringing around in a bag and i dont trust myself
What I love about the Duo too is that with AR glasses like the XREAL Air, the two screens can actually be used as one massive screen and without the split, as the Duo perceives the glasses as an external monitor!
Its Awesome that a comment of mine could inspire a whole video and that makes me really feel apart of your community on this channel. You summarized my feelings really well. Being able to just open a second app with out interrupting what i was doing on my first app just hit different. Watching a youtube video and pulling up the browser to look up something that is being talked about, being able to close that browser and pull up X to see what people are saying about it all with out loosing my first app or interrupting the play back is something i will miss forever until some one decides to copy what Microsoft did with the software. Shit i wish Microsoft would just port it over in a foldable specific version of Microsoft Launcher but i doubt that would ever happen.
That's an interesting point of behavioral psyc/UI. It would appear the mind subconsciously separates the 2 screens. Where your mind considers the flexible screen a single screen and doing split screen means you're giving up screen real estate. With the Duo, it's 2 phones side by side, which is how your brain perceives them. Less of a sense of loss of space and more of a sense of utilization of the second screen. Very interesting
Totally agree about the Duo's dual screen, I couldn't be without the dual screen functionality. Having to reposition Apps once open seems counter intuitive. Gutted there won't be another Duo, I'm nursing mine for as long as I can.
Aspect ratio is the number one thing. I was hoping to move from my Flip 5/Duo 2 (personal/work) combo to just the Pixel Fold 2, but if the aspect ratio changes, I will try and keep the Duo 2 alive for as long as I can.
I love the duo 2, i bought it as my work phone after seeing Shane's videos. I am a contractor with a combination of report writing, training and consultation, increasingly online and face to face work with clients. I am alot less technically competent than most viewers of this channel, but I just love the duo. It just does everything I want. I am also drawn to dual screen computers - I have the older asus duo and am thinking of buying the new asus duo. I find these dual screen devices are so simple. I can just get on with my work and waste less brain power.
Lol I'm multitasking on and every foldable/dual screen device. My brain just works that way. I'm finding that I'm even becoming more dependent on floating windows now. Dope vid as always, love any chance to talk about the greatness that is surface duo
Completely with you. Getting used to my 1-day OnePlus Open and loving it so far, but regarding mutitasking it aint no Duo and it never will. And then I became aware that I work with 4x 27" 2560x1440 screens in a 2x2 pattern and having 4 distinctive seperate screens helps me massively switching from screen to screen because it helps my mind to switch from task to task because it's physically in it's own box. I would be way worde of having some giant HiRes panel in my face and wandering around of it. Two different displays is an asset.
The Duo felt like a completely different beast. Would love to see other companies expand on the form factor or at least a launcher that completely behaves like the Duo on our foldables.
Part of the reason I sold my duo is because the screens were not always consistent. Sometimes I would need to open it a couple of times to activate the phone, other times I would have two screens and suddenly one screen would go black. Now I have the Z fold 4 and I always use it in landscape view so I really don't mind the aspect ratio. And I've kinda trained myself to use split screens often and I do. I miss my duo but actually not as much as I thought I would. The Fold 4 has a better camera, is faster, and isn't nearly as glitchy as my duo was. I'm more happy I made the switch than I thought I would be.
Sounds like foldables need a default setting for people that prefer it to be 2 screens instead of 1 larger one. Always having the 2 home button bars at the bottom in that mode
Great think piece on folding phones. I'm 100% with you. I couldn't put my finger on what was keeping me from multitasking on pixel fold but it's def aspect ratio and ease of accessibility. Now i have an existential crisis plus Hulk Hogan dread. Thanks brother!🤣😻
I can't comment on the pixel fold because I don't have one of those, but Totally agree with you on the duo and the one plus open. I'm using the Open at the moment as my every day carry, just I switched the sims, and you are correct about the form factor of the Duo, I loved the fact I could open my bank on the internet and at the same time open my budget spreadsheet I made in a Microsoft Office Excel. Now on the open I have to use Google doc's, the extra on it is I can also open a floating calculator, so My duo2 is now my every day carry tablet.
I completely agree Shane, I love my Vivo X Fold 3 Pro and enjoyed the Oppo Find N3/OnePlus Open, but I still miss the ease of everything on my Microsoft Surface Duo 2. I used to hold it and use it just like you showed and unless you've been a daily user you just don't get "it" I think it's a combo, but I still facepalm watching older videos where other reviewers were hating on the Surface Duo 2 because they were trying to span every app and then not liking the result, it's makes me day out loud, that's because you're doing it wrong.
I still have the duo 1. Main complain i had was that it was slow. No 5g, too big for daily use. So i went for a zenfone 9. Small powerhouse that can do anything and fit in my pocket and 3.5 jack! But when working, I still bring duo with me because: - team calls when on location is just fun, you put it on the table and start the meeting and people will see your whole body instead of only your face. - outlook just does great on two screens - typing mail on flat surface and looking at text is awesome! And at home I use it for the little kids who want to watch some Miffy, one screen but folded in a way so they can't reach the phone but still see it pretty good. I love my zenfone 9. Late at night its the phone in my hand to just scroll mindless. But the duo has some advantages in situations. I mean...reading notes during a meeting and still following the people's faces online, everyone is always struggling but not the duo. Also.. don't use it for Google maps in the car. This phone will not fit any phone holder haha. The new Google flip and zflip, I had them in my hands but they lack one big reason to buy it. It's not two screens!
After nearly 2 years of exclusively using the Duo I' was recently thinking about this. I've warmed up to the idea of newer foldables. I would still split screen and/or have floating windows like I currently do on my Duo or any other PC. What's left for me is the hardware. The Duo with some hardware tweaks and slightly bigger screens would be it for me.
I mirror a lot of what most of you have commented on. The aspect ratio of Duo is very key in having those 2 separate screens. I definitely use my Pixel Fold completely different because it does have a front screen and it's not as easy to launch apps and have access to the desktop. I have actually gone back to using my Duo 2 as my daily driver simply because there is nothing like it. I absolutely love the passport esk feel of the phone and the multitasking. I also believe that not having the front screen is a big factor in why most of us like the device along with the 360 fold. I don't need an outer display if i can use the 360 fold. I still use my Duo folded a good portion of the time. It would be great if a company would just make a passport device with no external screen to appease a subsection of phone users. The device clearly can just have 1 internal screen and have the software mimic the Microsoft launcher with access to the desktop and the extra home screen page. Even if the phone wouldn't fold 360 I would 100% buy it just for the passport phone feel.
For me, the Duo shined most first thing in the morning, when I have multiple small tasks to do on my phone, and I’d like to catch up with my TH-cam feed at the same time, to get my brain going in the morning. Video on one screen, and responding to emails on the other was perfect. I went back to a slab phone and I find myself constantly pausing my video while I’m going through my emails and messages in the morning. The picture-in-picture mode takes up half my screen, so I can’t see what I’m doing, and it’s even worse when I’m typing. Between the video and the keyboard, I basically get a line or two of text. Maybe I should start using my Duo as my morning “tablet”, then pick up my slab phone for the rest of my day.
I think it's simply that the Duo has two independent physically separated home screens, so when you launch an app on one you are still experiencing the other one, and it doesn't become "out of sight out of mind". Like playing peek-a-boo with a toddler that hasn't developed the concept of object permanence. You nailed that it's a subliminal, unconscious thing, since the icons on a screen aren't physical objects. I probably couldn't even draw a picture of my home screen, despite that I look at it more than anything. Once I open up a window that obscures all my icons they might as well not exist. There is some interesting psychology there, like even as adults we are lacking the concept of "icon permanence". I think I'm buying a Duo 2!
its the screen orientation when opening. multitasking is better when opeining to landscape rather than a big portrait. the closest i used is the oppo find N and N2. but the software is the biggest reason
I am still daily driving my original duo for the ratio aspect and the dual screens. I love my phone! I never experienced any of the problems most were plagued with. I hope some one makes a duo like replacement before mine dies😢
Went from a Duo 2 to a OnePlus Open and I can honestly say I very rarely multitask anymore. With the outside screen being fine for apps I use daily I find it rare that I want or need to bother with a second app. On Duo, I suspect largely due to having to open the phone to even use it, it just felt more natural to open an app on one screen and use the other for google searches or what have you. It was comfortable to hold in fully opened mode and I almost never bothered to fold it down to the single screen unless I was using it as a (*GASP*) actual phone. :) Due to having a perfectly usable outer display it just 'feels' different and almost like a chore to even bother opening The OnePlus Open up. That being said I DO still watch movies and such with the Open fully opened up, it just makes sense. But opening the phone up so I can multitask? Not very often. I suspect I won't spend the money on another foldable in the future, which is sad because I like having the OPTION of multitasking but I can't justify the expense with my use case.
I multi-task way less on my Pixel Fold than I did on my Surface Duo 2. It's the ease of access for me. I would probably have similar levels of multi-tasking with that LG phone with the dual screen case.
I love my duo, i just got some new bumpers and skin for it. I love loading web pages or searching on one screen and I'm between the loads I'm working on the other screen, slowly making my way to completing both task. The pixel fold does that but some times apps take the whole screen even though I'm in split screen which sadly reduces my flow because instead of working on both sides I'm waiting for one app to finish before i get back to the other.
So funny I just saw your video, because I'd been umm-ing and ahh-ing for the past few weeks about going back to my SD2 from my Pixel 7a and had just switched over the SIM about half an hour ago. Basically, missing the dual-screen thing, and since we can't get either the Pixel Fold or OnePlus Open here in Australia, this is my only choice. Gonna see how I go being back on SD2 after almost a year.
Yeah, so much for that. First thing I tried to pair my Ray-Ban Metas and they said the SD2 isn't compatible, only select Google, Apple and Samsung phones. Feels a bit suss, given it's just bluetooth, but they also require you to have the app running at all times to get full functionality, so I think they're software locking some stuff. Oh well, was all excited about going back to SD2 but c'est la vie...
I've been daily driving a Surface Duo 1since October 2022 and have not found anything that has excited me enough to take my Sim card out. It's been my favorite phone since my Lumia 950XL.
I love the idea of the surface, glass screens instead of plastic is great. I also have the same behavioural thing with my computer. If I had one 16:18 or 32:9 monitor or two 16:9 monitors I think I'd be more likely to multi-task on the two seperate monitors so I can see why people would feel like they're more likely to multi task on the surface duo
I've made, or rather tried, going from the Duo to a Fold. I miss multitasking by default, as well as that wider aspect ratio. Without an outside screen, there's no need to make it narrow enough to use in one hand, and the inner dual screen experience is markedly better for it.
All the pixel fold supreme pro ultimate 9 needs to do is let you grab that little white bar and snap the open program on the side you want. Second app opens in the empty space when you decide to do so. You're right about the task bar. That will sure help. I've been very pleased with the pixel so far but do find myself multitasking less because it's just not as easy to do as it was on the duo.
I have my Fold 5. But I keep looking at these videos. And I'm wondering, how much better the Dou2 would be. I'm a truck driver and I constantly use Google maps and earth. To be able to have separate screens. Might be a better option. I'm more concerned with the weak ecosystem, poor performance, low ram and cameras.
It's weird how I multitask the most on my LG V60 with the screen case. I guess because it just runs better than my surface duo. And I'd say the pixel fold I mostly use full screen
I strongly agree with you regarding the aspect ratio being important for multitasking. I am very disappointed in the new Fold changing it. It is as if no one at Google cares about multitasking.
Agree it's the size of the duo screen that's great for me, if I have to move on ever from my duo2, I would love a single screen phone the size of the duo2 one side.😮
Exactly this! I would LOOOVE half a duo. It's the screen proportions and light weight that makes it so much better than other folding phones. I know the multitasking is a great feature but so often I just used one screen. I would even use a Duo with a modern processor and operating system but it's too slow for daily use as is, as I confirm every couple months.
I feel for me I multitask less, but not a massive amount less, on Duo I would often have it fully open just for it being comfortable to hold, but the 2nd screen frequently wasn't doing anything and then if I needed something else I would open it on that 2nd screen. Reasons why though are similar to you, aspect ratio first and then ease of doing so second. I simply prefer a nice wide aspect ratio, and with the Pixel Fold I find I open it probably a good 70-80% of the time, but that's mainly for opening one app in a landscape orientation, especially for web browsers as I have mine set to always show the desktop site as I find most mobile sites to be awful, but desktop sites on a normal phone screen to be equally bad, however desktop sites on the inner screen on the Pixel Fold is pretty near perfect for me, but for opening 2 apps it's more clunky and the narrower ratio for each app to me is just not great. Really for me an idea form factor would be one where the inner screen was somewhere around 4:3 to 16:10 when open.
its still the only folder device i would be confident will still work in 5 or 10 years, due to it not having a screen that has to curve around when it closes. obviously its not great for the duo now either since that i wont ever be getting updates, but i would still bet a duo would last longer than any of the others
Yes my duo 2 optimized my dual tasking. Damn I wish they had made a 3. Zfold 5 software is super smooth, but bad aspect ratio. Pixelfold software is laggy and no pen support.
Thanks for bringing this up, I totally agree: It's all about aspect ratio. Google Pixel Fold currently is the only alternative an - as I'm afraid - will always be. There is no use unfolding the device and then rotating it only to have the right aspect ratio. I's a bit sad that Microsoft had the wrong marketing for their surface duo devices. It's the best you can get for productivity: I am self employed and use a google sheet on one side and WhatsApp or Email on the other side to administrate new customers. I think if only more people were aware of the advantages and of how much easier everything is with the surface duo for productivity on the go, then we would have many more of these devices. It's all about marketing. I can't live without my two screens, I always need two, either desktop and mobile. Greetings from Germany, and thanks for your fantastic channel. Nobody else on TH-cam speaks about this topic.
My only major complaint of my Surface Duo 2 is that there is no screen on the outside of the device. Even just a small notification screen like the LG V60 would have been really nice to have. Other than that it would be really nice to have a headphone jack and SD card slot. Other than those two issues, the hinge on the SD2 is infinitely more durable than the one on the LG V60 Dual-screen.
Honestly, I'm scared to try any of the other folding phones because of this exact reason. I LOVE the multitasking of my duos, but they're super fragile. I've been through 2 Duos and I recently cracked my Duo 2. I had a guy with a Galaxy Fold 3 tell me he was pretty rough on his phone and it was fairly resilient. I dunno, I feel like with all the extra steps to multitask that I'd never do it or would get frustrated when I need to and it takes me too many steps. I almost feel like I'd be better off getting a regular Galaxy phone at this point. Thoughts?
If Microsoft wanted, they could put out a gen 3 with bells and whistles as a partner to the surface pc tablets. And add a few mils to the thickess to add dual speakers and camera and allow the software to beef it up to a general standard. Most people that loved the duo and are business oriented would buy it
It's the software, 100%. Not being able to directly open an app on my pixel fold to one side is a serious frustration. I use the feature still, I have good use cases, but if I could open an app to the left of the phone like I could on my duo I'd use it WAY more
It's all your fault, that I bought a SD. I still love it, quirks and all. I can prop it up in tent mode in the car, to listen to podcasts or Spotify. I still don't know when it is going to change sides but I am comfortable with two discreet screens.
Had the Duo.2 since launch. Been looking around for an upgrade/replacement, and seriously - nothing comes close. Read shame Shane, they didn't continue with it 😢
Tried to switch to the MS Surface duo 2, right before they announced to no longer support it... stayed with my "normal" Sony Xperia 1 IV as a result... still kept "playing" with the duo 2. A couple of months later my Sony startet getting errors (dropped a few times too often I guess) and I went for a Pixel Fold. Best phone I've ever had so far. Especially as I've always used Nova Launcher and still do now. I guess the fact that I never used the Duo 2 as my main phone has the side effect of making the slightly easier multitasking irrelevant... it works llike on the Sony so I feel right at home.
If I were to compare multi-tasking use between my Fold (daily driver) and my OG Duo (work phone)....I multi-task 3-4 times more on my Duo over my fold. The steps involved in doing that on the Fold is extra work, focus and time which for me devalues its overall function as a multi-tasking device. The Duo accomplishes that function easily, efficiently and quickly - no extra steps.
Still using my surface duo 2, I still multitask a lot, especially for work. I really don't want to change to any other device. The SD2 still works for me, and hate the fact that Microsoft dropped it. As you have always said, the SD2 is not for everyone, but hell, it is definitely for me.
I use my duo 2 in the same way you explained. Its the best multitasking device to this date. I wish Microsoft can relaunch this with a larger battery and same form factor. I enjoy using it and miss it whenever I go to a single screen device.
yh bro, im rockin 3 surface duo 2s. only other phone ive tried that had the coolness factor was the zte axon m. if it aint a dual screen, i dont care about a foldable. especially one with narrow tall dimensions, or one that doesnt have pen support, or one pen option. no way, maybe a slightly damaged heavily discounted one on ebay. and that's it. there's a lot of times that i just need to pull 2 things up fast.. theyre up, theyre down, its closed. im good. thats how its supposed to be done. the small stuff matters BIG TIME.. every person i deliver to that sees my phone always asks, what is that? thats awesome.. etc etc.. hopefully we have some sort of petition to microsoft to bring it back, forget hollywood remakes, we need tech remakes with upgrades.. and youre the duo man, so if anyone was to do it. its on your brother, youve been holdin duo on your back for years. and we all greatly appreciate you for that!
I can actually do my job on a duo, but On the pixel or the galaxy fold I simply can’t. Too small, essentially the pixel and fold feel like 1 screen trying to be 2 while the duo is like having a dual screen monitor setup.. because it is
Wish I had the money for a Duo back then. I loved the design! It's a real shame Microsoft lost the phone battle. The big screen Lumia (forgot the type) I had with Windows (with those handy live tiles) was awesome imho. Got a zfold 3 now, but it's a hassle to get two apps open and the aspect ratio kind of makes the app useless if you do open two. I usually just end up swapping apps...
Perfect for having Copilot helping you on one screen, could do with better integration. The Copilot app doesn't work properly in dual screen portrait mode 😑
I've said it before. I think the aspect ratio of the fold is near perfect. Give me the software experience of the duo and an s-pen and we've got a perfect device! I wonder if a launcher could be made that brings the experience closer to the duo.
I switched to one plus open, but can't bring myself to sell my duo 2. It is still my prize possession. It is still the most productive phone I've ever owned. If not for battery life, I probably would have sold my oneplus and gone back to duo 2.
Still running with the Duo 2 - In Australia Pixel and Oneplus are both not available unless I do a private import which would present problems with a warranty if anything went wrong - I had a good look at the Samsung Z 5 but the current form factor for me is too narrow when closed. I'm waiting see see how the Fold 6 shapes up in terms of a revised form factor. I prefer the Duo 2 form factor for the multi tasking on 2 screens but I dont anticipate any manufacturers will head that way again unfortunately. A Duo 3 with a front screen would have been an even better form factor but regretably Microsoft will not be dekivering a Duo 3 for us.
Same here, ended up using my Surface Duo 2 just for work because its a lot easier and better to multitask and use split screen, and just using Pixel Fold for personal only and the big screen more for videogames and videos, there is nothing compared to Duo 2 in terms of multitasking, so sad Microsoft is not doing anything with it
I picked up my Surface Duo phone a month ago, I cant imagine using anything else. Multi tasking is so practical and the group function is crazy easy. Lets see if I make sense here, Yes the displays a larger but the aspect ratios of the displays on many occasions remind me of my two displays on my home PC, and because of this it makes both work with office 365 and youtube so much easier. Also its the best DS Emulation device. I have enjoyed this so much, I will be ready to move over to the Surface Duo 2 soon. @ShaneCraig Heres a question, Where did you get that bumper case? I have not seen any, Im from the UK and I can find a thing. Any help much appreciated. And thanks for an awesome video as always.
Worth getting, but at the end of the day, once you realize how the multitasking work, you will probably end up more disappointed because once you experience it, you'll really think hard about why no one has continued to make a device like that. Split screening on the duo is just a godsend. It's one of a kind.
How about switching all rhe files from some android phone to the duo 2? Do they have some program for it ? Like samsung switch ? I would like to try the duo 2 and i have some old samsung..
Mkbhd the studio just gave it a D ranking in their recent "failed phones tier ratings" smh.... Still don't get it.... They said it's awkward to use with both screens open and in phone mode they said it's too wide and hurts your hand 😅
It's the best multitasking phone, so easy to use, and no foldable phone even comes close to it. It's disappointing that Microsoft does not come with Duo3.
I want and I do NEED a dual screen device like this where you have two different screens. I wish they bring that into the foldable phones like they do with the wide monitor displays (it's possible via a software update), but unfortunately we all know Google don't really care about multitasking (they don't even have a clear stable vision in mind like never ever have!!), and most people who buy the foldables don't buy them for multitasking (the tall aspect ratio being more famous on foldable is the proof). Ugh this is so restrictive therefore so so so so sooo frustrating (lowkey depressing XD) to me a multitasker!
the main reason for all this is that they want or they try to mainstream the foldables when they are just for a few minority of people. This is so stupid and leads to all these contradictions and frustration.
Here's the thing..... The Duo has to be resurrected.... There's almost a universal love for it other than the software and weak hardware. I am not kidding when I say I've almost never heard anyone knock or complain about the form factor. I have moved to the Fold and while being the closest device to the Duo....it still doesn't compare. The Duo two is still used everyday for me. Someone has to have the stones to make this happen!!
Surface Duo 1or2 is like using TWO monitors for your computer. Foldable cellphones is like using ONE ultrawide monitor. Surface Duo is superior for work/multitasking. Foldables are superior for entertainment.
App pairs. quite quickly you will find out what you use most often. then just swap one out as desired. Duo needs a front screen, maybe 1/2 size, then I'll definitely think about it. i use a vivo x fold. 8" screen is great, but i use chrome with 20 tabs open and a,floating window for calculator or excel. for share trading. its awesome. surface duo 3? come on!! 👍👍
I'm in the ballpark that each of us navigates to what attracts us most. I'm not a tech spec guy. You can present a multitask scenario with 5 windows. This is only attractive if you, one.. Multitask often, and 2.. Off you 'need' 5 windows. This is something I'm thinking only tech reviewers pick up on. Most users most likely don't do this themselves, butt rather read a review and think... Yeah.. That's fort to be better because it can do more. Ease of use, usability, and functionality is something very few reviewers are into.. Choosing instead too bombard us with tech spec. Though I enjoy a little bit of tech spec, I prefer more of a ' a day with xxx'... Real life usage. The horrible part of the duo was the camera usability. It just didn't fit for me. Whereas the pixel fold's usability is phenomenal. Multitask ease of use versus camera usability is, in my book, a good trade-off. Comparing the duo to the pixel fold allows me to remember the good points of both, but also remind me of those things that are important to me... My personal device usability
Still rocking my OG duo and loving every moment with it
I rocked mine until it broke on me....for dripping it way too many timez😂...so it gave me a reason to try the pixel fold🙌. If you ever leave that ship the pixel fold is a great alternative
Same
I'm a simple man. I see surface duo I click the video, watch and like. That's said, I've been through almost all the popular phones and the duo is the only one that remotely feels like a cool futuristic device that is timeless. The rest of them just feel like slabs copying each other honestly. The folding phones are novel but I'm honestly blown away that the concept of a literal moleskin dual screen notebook phone didn't catch on way more than it did. And you can draw on these devices and root them and put different operating systems on them. Honestly they're probably the coolest devices Microsoft has ever made in the phone space. I am so unimaginably heartbroken that they just won't continue this line of devices. Same thing with the surface book. Now they have this horrifically ugly device called the surface studio or whatever it's called. Whoever was calling the shots at Microsoft's product design division was an industrial design genius and they must have been let go.
I love the three app triangle on the OnePlus open. I have maps and my music app open as portrait side by side windows and use a OBD2 scanner app full screen on the bottom to monitor some temps in my older car.
Panos Panay was in charge of all the surface products. Surface teams had layoffs in 2022/2023, and Panos Panay left in Sept 2023.
i have the surface studio laptop 2 and its ugly and heavy but its also the first laptop where you can switch to using the pen input in 1 second which means its something i actually end up using, unlike the countless other 2in1 devices ive tried over the years, including the surface book, where i never used the pen enough as i should have cos it would take 5+ to switch modes. the thing could be 10 times uglier i still would have bought it
@@zankfrappa93 I guess it depends on your use case. With my surface book I almost never take it out of the notebook mode where I can draw on it easily and I only use the other mode when I don't want to draw and only need to type a document or something so I guess I didn't notice that pro of the surface studio. My gripe is not being able to separate it from the keyboard base forcing me to always have a heavy large device which almost kills my desire to draw on it unless I'm at a desk in which case I could just use a proper drawing monitor like the surface studio desktops. I guess I could just never see the use case for the surface studio laptop myself.
@@1GamersRewind yea im mostly at a desk at home or on the couch. its never left the house cos its too expensive to be bringing around in a bag and i dont trust myself
What I love about the Duo too is that with AR glasses like the XREAL Air, the two screens can actually be used as one massive screen and without the split, as the Duo perceives the glasses as an external monitor!
Its Awesome that a comment of mine could inspire a whole video and that makes me really feel apart of your community on this channel. You summarized my feelings really well. Being able to just open a second app with out interrupting what i was doing on my first app just hit different. Watching a youtube video and pulling up the browser to look up something that is being talked about, being able to close that browser and pull up X to see what people are saying about it all with out loosing my first app or interrupting the play back is something i will miss forever until some one decides to copy what Microsoft did with the software. Shit i wish Microsoft would just port it over in a foldable specific version of Microsoft Launcher but i doubt that would ever happen.
That's an interesting point of behavioral psyc/UI. It would appear the mind subconsciously separates the 2 screens. Where your mind considers the flexible screen a single screen and doing split screen means you're giving up screen real estate. With the Duo, it's 2 phones side by side, which is how your brain perceives them. Less of a sense of loss of space and more of a sense of utilization of the second screen. Very interesting
Thats what Panos Panay was talking about the nature of making two screens when he designed Surface Duo
That's exactly how I use my Duo 2 - and yes, I am still using it. What can I say? I'm in denial.
Totally agree about the Duo's dual screen, I couldn't be without the dual screen functionality. Having to reposition Apps once open seems counter intuitive. Gutted there won't be another Duo, I'm nursing mine for as long as I can.
Aspect ratio is the number one thing. I was hoping to move from my Flip 5/Duo 2 (personal/work) combo to just the Pixel Fold 2, but if the aspect ratio changes, I will try and keep the Duo 2 alive for as long as I can.
Same. I really wish there was a market for landscape finding phones.
Love my Pixel Fold but miss that Surface Duo. It did hit different.
" hit different " ?? Huh... you gay dude ??
@@mrcalicowest3370bro what?
I love the duo 2, i bought it as my work phone after seeing Shane's videos. I am a contractor with a combination of report writing, training and consultation, increasingly online and face to face work with clients. I am alot less technically competent than most viewers of this channel, but I just love the duo. It just does everything I want. I am also drawn to dual screen computers - I have the older asus duo and am thinking of buying the new asus duo. I find these dual screen devices are so simple. I can just get on with my work and waste less brain power.
Lol I'm multitasking on and every foldable/dual screen device. My brain just works that way. I'm finding that I'm even becoming more dependent on floating windows now. Dope vid as always, love any chance to talk about the greatness that is surface duo
I really think it's the killer use case. If you're wired for it, they become irreplaceable.
Completely with you. Getting used to my 1-day OnePlus Open and loving it so far, but regarding mutitasking it aint no Duo and it never will. And then I became aware that I work with 4x 27" 2560x1440 screens in a 2x2 pattern and having 4 distinctive seperate screens helps me massively switching from screen to screen because it helps my mind to switch from task to task because it's physically in it's own box. I would be way worde of having some giant HiRes panel in my face and wandering around of it. Two different displays is an asset.
The Duo felt like a completely different beast. Would love to see other companies expand on the form factor or at least a launcher that completely behaves like the Duo on our foldables.
I'm still using my duo 2 and it's brilliant. The focused 2 screen approach is awesome. For my business it's perfect.
Part of the reason I sold my duo is because the screens were not always consistent. Sometimes I would need to open it a couple of times to activate the phone, other times I would have two screens and suddenly one screen would go black. Now I have the Z fold 4 and I always use it in landscape view so I really don't mind the aspect ratio. And I've kinda trained myself to use split screens often and I do. I miss my duo but actually not as much as I thought I would. The Fold 4 has a better camera, is faster, and isn't nearly as glitchy as my duo was. I'm more happy I made the switch than I thought I would be.
Agree completely which is why I'm still using Duo 2, just wish it had a state of art better camera, but camera is good enough to still use.
You think that camera is bad? I'm still using OG Duo! That camera is awful and it's by far the biggest reason why I'm getting a Duo 2 soon!
Sounds like foldables need a default setting for people that prefer it to be 2 screens instead of 1 larger one. Always having the 2 home button bars at the bottom in that mode
Great think piece on folding phones. I'm 100% with you. I couldn't put my finger on what was keeping me from multitasking on pixel fold but it's def aspect ratio and ease of accessibility. Now i have an existential crisis plus Hulk Hogan dread.
Thanks brother!🤣😻
The way windows handled surface duo/2 is the biggest fumble ever.
Still rocking my Duo 1 as primary device. I just dont want to and can't change device. 😅😅
I can't comment on the pixel fold because I don't have one of those, but Totally agree with you on the duo and the one plus open. I'm using the Open at the moment as my every day carry, just I switched the sims, and you are correct about the form factor of the Duo, I loved the fact I could open my bank on the internet and at the same time open my budget spreadsheet I made in a Microsoft Office Excel. Now on the open I have to use Google doc's, the extra on it is I can also open a floating calculator, so My duo2 is now my every day carry tablet.
I completely agree Shane, I love my Vivo X Fold 3 Pro and enjoyed the Oppo Find N3/OnePlus Open, but I still miss the ease of everything on my Microsoft Surface Duo 2. I used to hold it and use it just like you showed and unless you've been a daily user you just don't get "it"
I think it's a combo, but I still facepalm watching older videos where other reviewers were hating on the Surface Duo 2 because they were trying to span every app and then not liking the result, it's makes me day out loud, that's because you're doing it wrong.
We need a Duo launcher for the Fold.
I still have the duo 1. Main complain i had was that it was slow. No 5g, too big for daily use. So i went for a zenfone 9. Small powerhouse that can do anything and fit in my pocket and 3.5 jack!
But when working, I still bring duo with me because:
- team calls when on location is just fun, you put it on the table and start the meeting and people will see your whole body instead of only your face.
- outlook just does great on two screens
- typing mail on flat surface and looking at text is awesome!
And at home I use it for the little kids who want to watch some Miffy, one screen but folded in a way so they can't reach the phone but still see it pretty good.
I love my zenfone 9. Late at night its the phone in my hand to just scroll mindless.
But the duo has some advantages in situations. I mean...reading notes during a meeting and still following the people's faces online, everyone is always struggling but not the duo.
Also.. don't use it for Google maps in the car. This phone will not fit any phone holder haha.
The new Google flip and zflip, I had them in my hands but they lack one big reason to buy it. It's not two screens!
Yup. I'm gonna be so bummed once mine dies...
Same, every time I use it I get sadder because of the excitement of using it but at the same time it's the only one of it's kind.
After nearly 2 years of exclusively using the Duo I' was recently thinking about this. I've warmed up to the idea of newer foldables. I would still split screen and/or have floating windows like I currently do on my Duo or any other PC. What's left for me is the hardware. The Duo with some hardware tweaks and slightly bigger screens would be it for me.
I mirror a lot of what most of you have commented on. The aspect ratio of Duo is very key in having those 2 separate screens. I definitely use my Pixel Fold completely different because it does have a front screen and it's not as easy to launch apps and have access to the desktop. I have actually gone back to using my Duo 2 as my daily driver simply because there is nothing like it. I absolutely love the passport esk feel of the phone and the multitasking. I also believe that not having the front screen is a big factor in why most of us like the device along with the 360 fold. I don't need an outer display if i can use the 360 fold. I still use my Duo folded a good portion of the time. It would be great if a company would just make a passport device with no external screen to appease a subsection of phone users. The device clearly can just have 1 internal screen and have the software mimic the Microsoft launcher with access to the desktop and the extra home screen page. Even if the phone wouldn't fold 360 I would 100% buy it just for the passport phone feel.
Absolutely love your videos. Your videos are for the people who are techie, but not super techie.
For me, the Duo shined most first thing in the morning, when I have multiple small tasks to do on my phone, and I’d like to catch up with my TH-cam feed at the same time, to get my brain going in the morning. Video on one screen, and responding to emails on the other was perfect. I went back to a slab phone and I find myself constantly pausing my video while I’m going through my emails and messages in the morning. The picture-in-picture mode takes up half my screen, so I can’t see what I’m doing, and it’s even worse when I’m typing. Between the video and the keyboard, I basically get a line or two of text.
Maybe I should start using my Duo as my morning “tablet”, then pick up my slab phone for the rest of my day.
I think it's simply that the Duo has two independent physically separated home screens, so when you launch an app on one you are still experiencing the other one, and it doesn't become "out of sight out of mind". Like playing peek-a-boo with a toddler that hasn't developed the concept of object permanence. You nailed that it's a subliminal, unconscious thing, since the icons on a screen aren't physical objects. I probably couldn't even draw a picture of my home screen, despite that I look at it more than anything. Once I open up a window that obscures all my icons they might as well not exist. There is some interesting psychology there, like even as adults we are lacking the concept of "icon permanence". I think I'm buying a Duo 2!
The pixel reminds me of the duo so much . The way it sits in your hand and the size
More ram , optimized software and a solid camera on the inside would've Hit different. So much potential
its the screen orientation when opening. multitasking is better when opeining to landscape rather than a big portrait. the closest i used is the oppo find N and N2. but the software is the biggest reason
Totally agree with you. I changed my SD1 for a Z fold 4, and rarely use two apps at the same time, why? Because it doesn’t feel natural.
I am still daily driving my original duo for the ratio aspect and the dual screens. I love my phone! I never experienced any of the problems most were plagued with. I hope some one makes a duo like replacement before mine dies😢
Went from a Duo 2 to a OnePlus Open and I can honestly say I very rarely multitask anymore. With the outside screen being fine for apps I use daily I find it rare that I want or need to bother with a second app. On Duo, I suspect largely due to having to open the phone to even use it, it just felt more natural to open an app on one screen and use the other for google searches or what have you. It was comfortable to hold in fully opened mode and I almost never bothered to fold it down to the single screen unless I was using it as a (*GASP*) actual phone. :) Due to having a perfectly usable outer display it just 'feels' different and almost like a chore to even bother opening The OnePlus Open up. That being said I DO still watch movies and such with the Open fully opened up, it just makes sense. But opening the phone up so I can multitask? Not very often. I suspect I won't spend the money on another foldable in the future, which is sad because I like having the OPTION of multitasking but I can't justify the expense with my use case.
I multi-task way less on my Pixel Fold than I did on my Surface Duo 2. It's the ease of access for me. I would probably have similar levels of multi-tasking with that LG phone with the dual screen case.
I love my duo, i just got some new bumpers and skin for it. I love loading web pages or searching on one screen and I'm between the loads I'm working on the other screen, slowly making my way to completing both task. The pixel fold does that but some times apps take the whole screen even though I'm in split screen which sadly reduces my flow because instead of working on both sides I'm waiting for one app to finish before i get back to the other.
Hello, Do you have any issues with the fact they stopped supporting with updates and security patches? Thank you
So funny I just saw your video, because I'd been umm-ing and ahh-ing for the past few weeks about going back to my SD2 from my Pixel 7a and had just switched over the SIM about half an hour ago. Basically, missing the dual-screen thing, and since we can't get either the Pixel Fold or OnePlus Open here in Australia, this is my only choice. Gonna see how I go being back on SD2 after almost a year.
Yeah, so much for that. First thing I tried to pair my Ray-Ban Metas and they said the SD2 isn't compatible, only select Google, Apple and Samsung phones. Feels a bit suss, given it's just bluetooth, but they also require you to have the app running at all times to get full functionality, so I think they're software locking some stuff. Oh well, was all excited about going back to SD2 but c'est la vie...
I totally agree with you, plus I really miss the pen
I've been daily driving a Surface Duo 1since October 2022 and have not found anything that has excited me enough to take my Sim card out. It's been my favorite phone since my Lumia 950XL.
I love the idea of the surface, glass screens instead of plastic is great. I also have the same behavioural thing with my computer. If I had one 16:18 or 32:9 monitor or two 16:9 monitors I think I'd be more likely to multi-task on the two seperate monitors so I can see why people would feel like they're more likely to multi task on the surface duo
I've made, or rather tried, going from the Duo to a Fold. I miss multitasking by default, as well as that wider aspect ratio. Without an outside screen, there's no need to make it narrow enough to use in one hand, and the inner dual screen experience is markedly better for it.
Surface duo could be perfect improving his performance, animations etc
All the pixel fold supreme pro ultimate 9 needs to do is let you grab that little white bar and snap the open program on the side you want. Second app opens in the empty space when you decide to do so. You're right about the task bar. That will sure help. I've been very pleased with the pixel so far but do find myself multitasking less because it's just not as easy to do as it was on the duo.
I have my Fold 5. But I keep looking at these videos. And I'm wondering, how much better the Dou2 would be. I'm a truck driver and I constantly use Google maps and earth. To be able to have separate screens. Might be a better option. I'm more concerned with the weak ecosystem, poor performance, low ram and cameras.
Do it 😊
It's weird how I multitask the most on my LG V60 with the screen case. I guess because it just runs better than my surface duo. And I'd say the pixel fold I mostly use full screen
LG V60 for the win. I’m rocking mine with the dual case and I’m totally satisfied
I strongly agree with you regarding the aspect ratio being important for multitasking. I am very disappointed in the new Fold changing it. It is as if no one at Google cares about multitasking.
Agree it's the size of the duo screen that's great for me, if I have to move on ever from my duo2, I would love a single screen phone the size of the duo2 one side.😮
Exactly this! I would LOOOVE half a duo. It's the screen proportions and light weight that makes it so much better than other folding phones. I know the multitasking is a great feature but so often I just used one screen. I would even use a Duo with a modern processor and operating system but it's too slow for daily use as is, as I confirm every couple months.
I feel for me I multitask less, but not a massive amount less, on Duo I would often have it fully open just for it being comfortable to hold, but the 2nd screen frequently wasn't doing anything and then if I needed something else I would open it on that 2nd screen.
Reasons why though are similar to you, aspect ratio first and then ease of doing so second. I simply prefer a nice wide aspect ratio, and with the Pixel Fold I find I open it probably a good 70-80% of the time, but that's mainly for opening one app in a landscape orientation, especially for web browsers as I have mine set to always show the desktop site as I find most mobile sites to be awful, but desktop sites on a normal phone screen to be equally bad, however desktop sites on the inner screen on the Pixel Fold is pretty near perfect for me, but for opening 2 apps it's more clunky and the narrower ratio for each app to me is just not great. Really for me an idea form factor would be one where the inner screen was somewhere around 4:3 to 16:10 when open.
its still the only folder device i would be confident will still work in 5 or 10 years, due to it not having a screen that has to curve around when it closes. obviously its not great for the duo now either since that i wont ever be getting updates, but i would still bet a duo would last longer than any of the others
I use it every day, all day. Still the best
Yes my duo 2 optimized my dual tasking. Damn I wish they had made a 3.
Zfold 5 software is super smooth, but bad aspect ratio.
Pixelfold software is laggy and no pen support.
It's a ADHD phone dream. I will keep Duo2 phone and buy another when it breaks. This phone rocks.
Thanks for bringing this up, I totally agree: It's all about aspect ratio. Google Pixel Fold currently is the only alternative an - as I'm afraid - will always be. There is no use unfolding the device and then rotating it only to have the right aspect ratio. I's a bit sad that Microsoft had the wrong marketing for their surface duo devices. It's the best you can get for productivity: I am self employed and use a google sheet on one side and WhatsApp or Email on the other side to administrate new customers. I think if only more people were aware of the advantages and of how much easier everything is with the surface duo for productivity on the go, then we would have many more of these devices. It's all about marketing. I can't live without my two screens, I always need two, either desktop and mobile. Greetings from Germany, and thanks for your fantastic channel. Nobody else on TH-cam speaks about this topic.
My only major complaint of my Surface Duo 2 is that there is no screen on the outside of the device. Even just a small notification screen like the LG V60 would have been really nice to have.
Other than that it would be really nice to have a headphone jack and SD card slot.
Other than those two issues, the hinge on the SD2 is infinitely more durable than the one on the LG V60 Dual-screen.
Honestly, I'm scared to try any of the other folding phones because of this exact reason. I LOVE the multitasking of my duos, but they're super fragile. I've been through 2 Duos and I recently cracked my Duo 2. I had a guy with a Galaxy Fold 3 tell me he was pretty rough on his phone and it was fairly resilient. I dunno, I feel like with all the extra steps to multitask that I'd never do it or would get frustrated when I need to and it takes me too many steps. I almost feel like I'd be better off getting a regular Galaxy phone at this point. Thoughts?
I just use both SD1 & 2. No other phones
This guy Duos
@@RyanHill3000 Oh, Hell to the Yeah!!
If Microsoft wanted, they could put out a gen 3 with bells and whistles as a partner to the surface pc tablets. And add a few mils to the thickess to add dual speakers and camera and allow the software to beef it up to a general standard. Most people that loved the duo and are business oriented would buy it
It's the software, 100%. Not being able to directly open an app on my pixel fold to one side is a serious frustration. I use the feature still, I have good use cases, but if I could open an app to the left of the phone like I could on my duo I'd use it WAY more
It's all your fault, that I bought a SD. I still love it, quirks and all. I can prop it up in tent mode in the car, to listen to podcasts or Spotify. I still don't know when it is going to change sides but I am comfortable with two discreet screens.
Had the Duo.2 since launch. Been looking around for an upgrade/replacement, and seriously - nothing comes close.
Read shame Shane, they didn't continue with it 😢
Tried to switch to the MS Surface duo 2, right before they announced to no longer support it... stayed with my "normal" Sony Xperia 1 IV as a result... still kept "playing" with the duo 2.
A couple of months later my Sony startet getting errors (dropped a few times too often I guess) and I went for a Pixel Fold.
Best phone I've ever had so far. Especially as I've always used Nova Launcher and still do now.
I guess the fact that I never used the Duo 2 as my main phone has the side effect of making the slightly easier multitasking irrelevant... it works llike on the Sony so I feel right at home.
If I were to compare multi-tasking use between my Fold (daily driver) and my OG Duo (work phone)....I multi-task 3-4 times more on my Duo over my fold. The steps involved in doing that on the Fold is extra work, focus and time which for me devalues its overall function as a multi-tasking device. The Duo accomplishes that function easily, efficiently and quickly - no extra steps.
You can pin the task bar on pixel fold in the android 15 beta.
Until it's on stable I can't count it lol
@@scaryifliteral good point
Works well so far
Still using my surface duo 2, I still multitask a lot, especially for work. I really don't want to change to any other device. The SD2 still works for me, and hate the fact that Microsoft dropped it. As you have always said, the SD2 is not for everyone, but hell, it is definitely for me.
I use my duo 2 in the same way you explained. Its the best multitasking device to this date. I wish Microsoft can relaunch this with a larger battery and same form factor. I enjoy using it and miss it whenever I go to a single screen device.
yh bro, im rockin 3 surface duo 2s. only other phone ive tried that had the coolness factor was the zte axon m. if it aint a dual screen, i dont care about a foldable. especially one with narrow tall dimensions, or one that doesnt have pen support, or one pen option. no way, maybe a slightly damaged heavily discounted one on ebay. and that's it. there's a lot of times that i just need to pull 2 things up fast.. theyre up, theyre down, its closed. im good. thats how its supposed to be done. the small stuff matters BIG TIME.. every person i deliver to that sees my phone always asks, what is that? thats awesome.. etc etc.. hopefully we have some sort of petition to microsoft to bring it back, forget hollywood remakes, we need tech remakes with upgrades.. and youre the duo man, so if anyone was to do it. its on your brother, youve been holdin duo on your back for years. and we all greatly appreciate you for that!
I can actually do my job on a duo, but On the pixel or the galaxy fold I simply can’t. Too small, essentially the pixel and fold feel like 1 screen trying to be 2 while the duo is like having a dual screen monitor setup.. because it is
Wish I had the money for a Duo back then. I loved the design! It's a real shame Microsoft lost the phone battle. The big screen Lumia (forgot the type) I had with Windows (with those handy live tiles) was awesome imho. Got a zfold 3 now, but it's a hassle to get two apps open and the aspect ratio kind of makes the app useless if you do open two. I usually just end up swapping apps...
Perfect for having Copilot helping you on one screen, could do with better integration. The Copilot app doesn't work properly in dual screen portrait mode 😑
I stopped using split screen on my Fold when I couldn't open the same app on 2 screens like I can on my Duo
I've said it before. I think the aspect ratio of the fold is near perfect. Give me the software experience of the duo and an s-pen and we've got a perfect device! I wonder if a launcher could be made that brings the experience closer to the duo.
I use my surface dou as a second device and my pixel fold as my daily driver. I believe the same thing, the dou is just different
I switched to one plus open, but can't bring myself to sell my duo 2. It is still my prize possession. It is still the most productive phone I've ever owned. If not for battery life, I probably would have sold my oneplus and gone back to duo 2.
I believe a Copilot-driven Surface Duo 3 foldable will eventually happen and it will have the same aspect ratios as the Duo 2.
I wish I were hearing rumors of such a device!
Still running with the Duo 2 - In Australia Pixel and Oneplus are both not available unless I do a private import which would present problems with a warranty if anything went wrong - I had a good look at the Samsung Z 5 but the current form factor for me is too narrow when closed. I'm waiting see see how the Fold 6 shapes up in terms of a revised form factor. I prefer the Duo 2 form factor for the multi tasking on 2 screens but I dont anticipate any manufacturers will head that way again unfortunately. A Duo 3 with a front screen would have been an even better form factor but regretably Microsoft will not be dekivering a Duo 3 for us.
Dont buy fold
Same here, ended up using my Surface Duo 2 just for work because its a lot easier and better to multitask and use split screen, and just using Pixel Fold for personal only and the big screen more for videogames and videos, there is nothing compared to Duo 2 in terms of multitasking, so sad Microsoft is not doing anything with it
I picked up my Surface Duo phone a month ago, I cant imagine using anything else. Multi tasking is so practical and the group function is crazy easy. Lets see if I make sense here, Yes the displays a larger but the aspect ratios of the displays on many occasions remind me of my two displays on my home PC, and because of this it makes both work with office 365 and youtube so much easier. Also its the best DS Emulation device.
I have enjoyed this so much, I will be ready to move over to the Surface Duo 2 soon.
@ShaneCraig Heres a question, Where did you get that bumper case? I have not seen any, Im from the UK and I can find a thing. Any help much appreciated. And thanks for an awesome video as always.
I WANT a Duo/Duo-style phone. I just couldn’t bring myself to get it with all the issues. Love the form factor though
I miss my duo since I broke my Duo's hinge in March. We need more duel screen phones
I've never tried a surface duo. Are they worth buying in 2024? Current Zfold 4 user, but planning on a pixel fold 2 when released.
Worth getting, but at the end of the day, once you realize how the multitasking work, you will probably end up more disappointed because once you experience it, you'll really think hard about why no one has continued to make a device like that. Split screening on the duo is just a godsend. It's one of a kind.
How about switching all rhe files from some android phone to the duo 2? Do they have some program for it ? Like samsung switch ? I would like to try the duo 2 and i have some old samsung..
Your videos are the only ones that make me want foldable phones.
Mkbhd the studio just gave it a D ranking in their recent "failed phones tier ratings" smh.... Still don't get it.... They said it's awkward to use with both screens open and in phone mode they said it's too wide and hurts your hand 😅
I saw the clip. They never learned how the gestures work lol
It's the best multitasking phone, so easy to use, and no foldable phone even comes close to it. It's disappointing that Microsoft does not come with Duo3.
If only google implemented some sort of duo like "multitasking mode".
i forgot that the surface duo existed. It seems like Microsoft did as well.
I want and I do NEED a dual screen device like this where you have two different screens. I wish they bring that into the foldable phones like they do with the wide monitor displays (it's possible via a software update), but unfortunately we all know Google don't really care about multitasking (they don't even have a clear stable vision in mind like never ever have!!), and most people who buy the foldables don't buy them for multitasking (the tall aspect ratio being more famous on foldable is the proof). Ugh this is so restrictive therefore so so so so sooo frustrating (lowkey depressing XD) to me a multitasker!
the main reason for all this is that they want or they try to mainstream the foldables when they are just for a few minority of people. This is so stupid and leads to all these contradictions and frustration.
Do you still have android 14 on your duo 1? If so is it more stable than microsofts android 12?
Here's the thing..... The Duo has to be resurrected.... There's almost a universal love for it other than the software and weak hardware. I am not kidding when I say I've almost never heard anyone knock or complain about the form factor. I have moved to the Fold and while being the closest device to the Duo....it still doesn't compare. The Duo two is still used everyday for me. Someone has to have the stones to make this happen!!
Im still mad at microsoft for abandoning the surface duo line and not giving us a 3rd gen
Go Jets. Turn this channel to be a little football talk too 😂
Surface Duo 1or2 is like using TWO monitors for your computer. Foldable cellphones is like using ONE ultrawide monitor. Surface Duo is superior for work/multitasking. Foldables are superior for entertainment.
Why doesn't Microsoft make a launcher that will act like Surface Duo? Since they did not treat the consumer very well with the end of the Duo line.
After I switched from duo to Z fold 5 I use floating window a lot
Wish surface duo was with T-Mobile. Ended up getting the Google fold an use it duel screen for Sports an betting witch I don't condone lol
I wouldnt try the Duo but multitasking is incredible on my op Open. Not so my zf5
App pairs. quite quickly you will find out what you use most often. then just swap one out as desired. Duo needs a front screen, maybe 1/2 size, then I'll definitely think about it. i use a vivo x fold. 8" screen is great, but i use chrome with 20 tabs open and a,floating window for calculator or excel. for share trading. its awesome. surface duo 3? come on!! 👍👍
I'm in the ballpark that each of us navigates to what attracts us most. I'm not a tech spec guy. You can present a multitask scenario with 5 windows. This is only attractive if you, one.. Multitask often, and 2.. Off you 'need' 5 windows. This is something I'm thinking only tech reviewers pick up on. Most users most likely don't do this themselves, butt rather read a review and think... Yeah.. That's fort to be better because it can do more.
Ease of use, usability, and functionality is something very few reviewers are into.. Choosing instead too bombard us with tech spec. Though I enjoy a little bit of tech spec, I prefer more of a ' a day with xxx'... Real life usage.
The horrible part of the duo was the camera usability. It just didn't fit for me. Whereas the pixel fold's usability is phenomenal. Multitask ease of use versus camera usability is, in my book, a good trade-off. Comparing the duo to the pixel fold allows me to remember the good points of both, but also remind me of those things that are important to me... My personal device usability