Destruction ensues outside of the Emperor's Chamber as Azrael barges in with his forces. Azrael: "Greetings my emperor. I am Azrael, Chapter Master of the *very loyal* Dark Angels Space Marine Chapter"
There is no Cypher, the Dark Angels have nothing to hide, and if you'll kindly come along our friendly interrogator chaplain, Admodai, can answer all your questions in _excruciating_ detail.
Amen Battlebrother! Those who think another way are Fallen themselves , or friends of Fallen, or passed by a friend of Fallen, or breath the same air as a Fallen by occasion....purge them all, just to be sure.
In response to those asking if Cypher is still on Terra, it is very heavily implied (if not outright stated) that he is not, as the 8th edition Dark Angel codex states that Cypher was being pursued by a number of Unforgiven Chapters during the Massacre at Darkmor, which occurred following the opening of the Cicatrix Maledictum/Great Rift (which itself was after the events of the 13th black crusade). He is also being currently hunted down by a number of Custodes and Sisters of Silence. Nobody escapes the palace dungeons and gets away with it! *shakes golden fist*
He still might be on Terra. Warp travel potentially can move someone into the past. It is possible this encounters are history for Cypher. I know it is a stretch but it is a possibility.
Cypher's mission is simple: He's a JJ Abrams' Style Mystery Box. And just like a JJ Abrams' Mystery Box, he will never be opened, because when you do, the audience is always incredibly disappointed.
Cypher is to good to be a mere Space Marine (Escaping the more powerful custodes). He must be the third Triplet Primarch Sigma of the Alfa Legion in pursuit of the ultimate covert operation. Restore the Emperor!
I believe that Cypher is on the side of the Loyalists and was ordered by Lion El’ Jonson to make sure that the Dark Angels would not fail the Imperium by getting caught up in other threats and not recognizing the threat of Chaos, so he is like a lodestone of sorts to bring the Dark Angels attention upon dangerous elements that could possibly bring down the Imperium. One of his quotes, I believe tells us about his purpose. “The Heavenfall Blades were tempered with blood and fire. So I shall test the Unforgiven.”
I see him more as a Daemon of Caliban. Loyal to the Dark Angels first and Imperium second. Similar to your theory, his goal is divert attention to the machinations of Chaos and Chaos contrivances. He sees Chaos as tools to further the cause of the Dark Angels and to finally see them redeemed.
Richard Fore - Uh... yeah, pretty much nailed it. Except probably not the first part... the HH novels have made it increasingly clear that (epically) failing the Imperium, getting caught up in irrelevant nonsense, and being hilariously oblivious to Chaos are the top 3 favorite hobbies of the Dark Angels in general and The Lion in particular. And they are damn good at them to this day. If I tried to list every time their jackassery caused a catastrophic fuck-up for the Imperium during the HH (which I could, because Warhammer trivia is one of my superpowers), then... well... it would be a really, REALLY long list... after the recent ‘Dreadwing’ novella, I am prepared to argue that of all the Legions- including the traitors- the Dark Angels were actually the greatest threat to the Imperium. That’s without even including The Fallen- I mean just the loyalist Dark Angels. If you bring Luther and friends into the conversation, there’s no contest. Horus himself looks at the Dark Angels and feels nothing but raw envy at what they managed to accomplish. I may petition Arch Warhammer to change it from #BlameLorgar to #BlameLion. At this point, he’s a serious contender to beat out Abaddon for the title of ‘Worst Son in the history of children’.
After all, countless relics, data scrolls and texts are stored in the imperial palace, maybe some powerfull enough to resurect or return a lost Primarch with just his blade as input
Shit really? I'm gonna need more coffee. Do you think we can nab a pain glove from Dorn's boys? Not the Angry ones though, wouldn't be worth it. Oh and we'll need more of Corax's teen years emo poetry.
I'm guessing Guilliman didn't want that blade anywhere near The Emperor because it's also a symbol of people of Ultramar revolting against the Imperium - Guilliman broke the sword because Johnson ordered the orbital bombardment of the rebels... Guilliman cannot allow The Emperor to know of that. He likely didn't know that sword had been reforged.
No, its likely that the blade is carrying a *massive* psychic imprint on it that could effect the emperor in all sorts of awful ways were the blade to come in contact with him.
Cypher is part of the webway creation entity. Hence is movements through space. Cypher brings conflict wherever he goes to test the unforgiven. If they have done enough by the time cypher reaches Pimp Daddy E then the lion will wake, and have the entities loyalty completely. Being able to control the webway means no more demon invasion of the earth portal. Big E can revitalise himself. And the dark Angels legion can wtfpwn out of the webway so fast They will need to paint their armour red.
Yeah but what if cyphers plans aren’t related to the Dark Angels themselves Chaos or bringing back the Emperor. Maybe he’s trying to bring back the Lion. Or maybe he’s trying to seek what he sees justice for the unjustice done to him by the Lion and the Dark Angels. You never know he could have completely mundane goals. Like maybe he wants a cookie from the Emperor’s cookie jar.
Cypher is going to bring back the Emperor. It's clear he's a true son of the Emperor. Because the Emperor protects those that serve him. Including letting him escape the imperial dungeon
It could be that the emperor of mankind recognizes that the regular sacrifices of psykers and the mass belief in him as a god has actually made him a god but he is still shackled to the golden throne. If the body is destroyed then the emperor may be able to take the fight to the gods of chaos in the immaterium.
@@MidasMakeItRain That, however leaves one itsy bitsy problem - the MASSIVE Warp Rift that Magnus stupidly created at the start of the Heresy. Said Rift is, (or so I'm lead to believe) as big as the Eye of Terror. Unless there's a comprable psyker (or group of them, on par w/Malcador or Magnus) then Terra..? Is going "Bye-bye!" It is (and remains) the best Catch-22 that the folks at WH40K have given us. (Which begs the question - "How the *FUCK* is Papa Smurf gonna solve this dilemma..?") *;-}*
@@Sidragrosm There's only one with power potent enough to use the Throne. Magnus. But that would mean the Imperium must find a way to return him to the fold.
I think Cypher is Corswain and the Lion's soul is trapped in the Lion sword on his back. The watchers placed his soul in the sword after his anguish of Luther's betrayal and his mind was broken. They entrusted it to Corswain as he was the only one who could do the job, switched places with Zahariel, and went on the run. When Cypher gets the sword to the emperor, he will fix the sword and the Lion's mind, forgiving the Dark Angels and bringing the Lion back to the imperium. That's what I like to think, mostly because corswain is awesome.
@@kingbaldwiniv5409 he only has enough "space" to carry one sword, not to mention the Lion's sword, thus not being able to carry any other melee weapon and stick with two pistols
@SmashStomp Inc, maybe, but he was pretty well resolved as he cleansed the defense platforms of traitor astartes. "Of course we ran, to remain meant death." -spoken by traitors of Caliban recounting their blatantly RUNNING AWAY from Corswain. I can't remember the book.
Cypher "Why would I try to assassinate a dead guy, bloody idiots" Imperium "Then why would you court alliances with blasphemy" Cypher "What? I like a good fight and last time I checked fun isn't a recognized form of heresy" Inquisition "That won't stop us!" Cypher "Oooooh I do love a challenge, you better try harder this time" Cypher = Chaotic Neutral LOL
@@kingbaldwiniv5409 We'll see in the end. Cypher will take off his Hood and it'll be Alpharious, that was secretly Omegon who was infiltrating the Dark Angels so long ago, only to go to Big E and say that everything is going as planned, but Mr. Plot Armor screwed the plans and now Terra is doomed. Gg wp😂😂😂
Really, Big E screwed things up from the get go. He: a) created a caste society with his "sons" at the top creating a hereditary monarchy. And of course no hereditary monarchy has ever had a son try to seize the throne...oh wait. b) He entrusted too much power into too few hands. There shouldn't have been a war-master. There should have been a council of brothers as equals. c) he put his "sons" on a massive ego trip about how awesome a bunch of demigods they were then expected them to not have ego trips? d) some of his sons (Angron comes to mind) should not have been given their legion till they got their heads straight. e) completely disregarded everyone in the whole galaxy's will and forced his agenda down everyone else's throat at bolter point. That does not breed loyalty. Which is why there are constant mutinies and Chaos takeovers all the time. Big E didn't convert the people of the galaxy, he bullied them into submission. Which is why they have to have exterminatus in 40k, because that simply doesn't work long term. I could go on. The Imperium was fatally flawed from its birth and things have only gotten worse as time goes on.
Cypher really just doesn't seem like a true traitor, he's not in allegiance with Chaos, he's an independent marine with no allegiances except to his Legion and Primarch too so the first theory that he wants to lay the Lion Sword at the feet of the Emperor to beg forgiveness for his and all the Fallen's sins makes a ton of sense
Personally I'm with the whole Cypher is a loyalist side of the fence. He's probably trying to redeem the Fallen and or help bring about the Emperor's return...but as no loyal marine would ever help Chaos?? Idk he's highly suspect.
Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war. He might be helping the imperium by helping chaos win certain engagements swiftly so the imperium doesn’t sink to much into conflicts they can’t win or aren’t worth it so they can focus on other more important battles. Or he is just an edgy boi
Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. He destroys Chaos from within. He's incorruptible. This has been shown. As he's honoured his side of agreements. Where my Primarch Robute Gulliman dare I say it did not. This shows sure signs of a loyalist Space Marine.
I could see where you come from..but with that argument he also has to have some kind of chaotic taint..like I said no sane loyalist marine or marine with loyalist ideals would dare help Chaos..let alone fight in pitched battles to ensure their victory.
_The_Guard_Rookie_666 I mean alpha legion did it for what they saw as a greater victory in the ultimate defeat of chaos and the preservation of life and completion of the emperors goal to kill chaos
No one ever new who Cypher was, even before the Heresy. He runs around the galaxy fighting with every side causing only more chaos. Able to escape capture easily. Hanged with other harlequins. Conclusion:: Cypher's a harlequin shrouded in Astartes image. Why? Because this is the greatest prank even, Cegorach approves.
*cypher enters throne room* Emperor: Yes my child, kill me so I can regenerate and give 2 gold middle fingers the chaos Gods. *cypher puts sword on emperors lap* Cypher: I cannot kill the God Emperor 😢 Emperor: WHAT!? NOOOOO!!! I HATE ALL YOU FAILED EXPERIMENTS!!!
@Anirban Chakrabarti Dude, don't tell me now that you are a Marxist too. That avatar is not ironical, right, you are a Marxist. If yes then this is ridiculous, a fellow Indian Marxist who is into wh40k, holy emperor Marx, what are the chances.
Clueless Maximus: “Seriously, no one can escape *this* shit. For real... Like, for real, for real... Not gonna happen. Nope. No escape. Nope nope nope. No, sir.” Cypher: “Hold my beer.” Clueless Maximus: “What? No I will not hold your- wait... where’d he go...? And... whose beer is this...?”
In a cell within The Rock, Dark Angels fortress monastery: Cypher: wait! this is a mistake, I'm must complete my mission. Interrogator Chaplain: let's change the subject please. Cypher: I am Alpharius.
The real question is, if the unforgiven learn that Cypher is on Terra, would the Lion's descendants purge Terra to keep their secret shame from the rest of the imperium at large?
They are DarkAngels so quite simply they will assume everyone on holy terra up to the emperor himself are working for the fallen and proceed too fire chaplins on jetbikes at the throne world to make it repent, and maybe too capture the emperor because clearly he might know where the a member of the fallen is if not all of them... and we know what the DarkAngels do if they think anyone knows where the fallen somuch as buys coffee from a coffee shop 5 thousand years before they learn this knowlage.
@@novaimperator1526 Not to the Dark Angels. The only thing that the Lion's filthy offspring consider of Absolute value are their secrets and the Fallen.
Cypher is actually Alpharius, and he's trying to get to the imperial palace to tell the Emperor his plan for saving Magnus from tzeentch so that they'll have another primarch return
Wow, your reading of the Caliban Space Marines' intentions and Luther's fall are pretty generous! I want you in my jury if I ever commit a crime! I could NEVER be convicted. It sounds like Baghdad Bob's description of the very short war in Iraq. "No, no Americans here. . .", as the US Humvees pass behind him in the window. The Lion's relationship with his father was definitely a bit unique. He was utterly loyal to the Emperor. As he conquered worlds, he did not see them as His Empire, he viewed them very plainly as his father's. He held nothing against the worlds were there people, they were intended to be part of the Imperium. He was the first primarch, template for the first legion, and the Emperor crafted custom psychic touches in the minds of many of that first legion, like Astellan. When the Imperium was threatened in the Rangdan Xenocide, the Emperor didn't send for Horus, he brought the 1st Legion. The sword of his first son may have much more significance than simply being a killing tool, it may be the link to both awaken the Lion and resurrecting the emperor. I really don't see any way that Horus nuking some other perpetual removes the Emperor's Perpetual Mojo.
I think Cypher is trying to regather the Fallen to find redemption and rally them to the Lion at his hour of greatest need, returning the Primarch's sword to his hand and his wayward sons to his side.
My theory, Cypher wants to kill the Emperor's mortal form to allow him to become a new 'Chaos' God. Chaos is in quotes because the Emperor would use his new literal god powers to crush the Ruinous Powers.
If Guilliman had held his end of the bargain, he could have added the stipulation that cypher was to hand over all his weapons, and be accompanied by guards, and maybe even guilliman himself
I believe Cypher wishes to use the sword reforged by the Eldari to reawaken the King who sleeps below the mound. Which is why he could escape the inescapable prison, take back his pistols and take back the sword leaving zero evidence on how he did these 3 separate impossible tasks.
Cypher is the physical battlefield manifestation of the emperor. As the emperor may be linked in the golden throne, his psychic presence manifests as one of the 1st legion as he would have known them, black armour. I think this would explain Cipher’s ability to appear in the heat of battle, when the storm is darkest, to turn the tides for the empire. He will always run from the Dark Angels simply to avoid having his true identity found. His longevity since the end of the heresy and ability to survive the warp untainted could also be accredited to this idea. The fact that some of the Fallen believe that they still serve the Emperor could hunt at this. The Emperor may be so displeased with how his empire has fallen from his own vision, he may be trying to fix it from the outside, since he is unable to do so while sitting on the golden throne.
Dark angels"hay there he is..get him" Cypher"oh my... catch me if you can" (benny hill music plays as the dark angels chase Cypher thought a hallway of doors gag)
More great work, your pretty good at this mate. I've tried watchin a few other ppl's 40k vids but it really is just you and Luetin09 up the top. Oh yeah and the good ol "if the Emp's had a text-to-speech..." love it!
Not exactly Cypher related, but after seeing that picture of Luther I got the weird idea that he would be Lion El'Johnson's Anger Translator. He got left behind because he wanted to make nice with the other marine chapters, and with no Anger to Translate it just sort of built up inside him.
Cypher is a savior of the Imperium, treated as a traitor. His presence reveals the Fallen, traitors, and chaos worshippers, but always leads to the protection of those loyal to the Imperium. The Emperor protects his most loyal of children.
Important piece of info, read: Lion El'Jonson was last seen in battle on Caliban against Luther. Luther goes full Chaos and mind blasts the Lion so hard he's 'mortally wounded'. This much we know already.... Who is Cypher? The Lord Cypher was a knight of lupus at the turn of the Horus Heresy, until Zahariel kills him and takes on the mantle, having been personally appointed by Luther. Here's the kicker: Luther claims his cypher was killed during the destruction of Caliban, who did it? Motherfucking Corswain, Possibly the greatest of the Lions warriors at the time if not ever. Now in damnation of Pythos, Epimetheus is rumoured to be Zahariel due his incredible abilites as a Psyker, the fact that he was a 'fallen' of the Dark Angels AND a greater demon of Tzeentch was shocked to see him there as his destiny was to be different. As Tzeentch is able to foresee the future it cannot believe that this has changed and could spell huge consequences for the Chaos Gods' plans. If Zahariel took that role, then the destiny of Cypher could go to Corswain, the last to see him at the fall of caliban. The lord cypher is able to pass on the role to a successor. If Corswain could learn to control the Ouroboros after expelling it from Zahariel, it could explain how Cypher is able to travel seemingly through time as he does. If Cypher is Corswain, it could also explain his combat prowess. I believe that Corswain, having taken the mantle of Cypher, found the Lions broken body and sword, he placed the body in the care of the Watchers in the Dark who as of a recent novel we know trust Cypher explicitly which if he was chaos aligned they wouldn't (they despise Chaos), but took the Lion sword for himself. The reasoning for this I gathered from 1d4chan, in that it seems like a great psychic entity is trapped in the sword, an entity far too much for Asmodai to even handle when he tried to take the sword. When Cypher returns the sword to the body of the lion when the imperium needs him the most, will the body and soul be reforged into the Primarch of the Dark Angels Legion, and the Lion will forgive the Fallen and Luther.
Having a robe with a hood around your freaking POWER ARMOUR is like the hipster space marines. "Brother, you need to take off your hoodie before battle!" "Says you!"
Mr. Theoriez, Imma letchu finish, love the intro but just gotta point this out as far as that imperial aquila near the end: Take it into photoshop-> Duplicate layer->Hide the first one-> Magic wand the negative space surrounding it & hit delete (You probably did all that so far)-> Now here's where we get rid of that pesky 1-pixle outline surrounding it that triggered this comment: Click the FX button on that layer-> Select Stroke-> Change the setting to Inner so it is not stroking going out, but going in-> change the pixle density to like 1~3. Ta-dah. Just like that, that entire white-pixle outline it's got going on disappears, especially within a black background. If you don't wanna do that, then after the magic want step-> Selection menu-> Inverse selection-> Reduce/Expand your slection by like 1~2 pixles-> Hit delete. It should effectivly delete that border, but has more room for some jank. Love you bae
"Answers only lead to more questions" I propose that Cypher did not fail in his mission as you say. The biggest question is not what Cypher's objective is, but where is Cypher now. From this let's go with the facts that we know of. Cypher was on Terra, Cypher was imprisoned, Cypher escaped. We don't know if Cypher left Terra. We also don't even know if Cypher left the palace. Because we don't know what Cypher's true motives were. We can't say that he failed in his mission. Cypher is known for having dubious motives. As naive readers we take things at face value just like naive Roboute. I don't believe Cypher ever expected to gain entrance to the throne room, at least not so easily. I also don't believe he may have wanted to get into the throne room, but merely to gain access to the imperial palace and Guilliman played right into this. It's one of the oldest bartering tactics in history. Start out with an outrageously high price or request so that you can settle upon what you truly desire. Had Cypher asked for access to Terra he would've been stopped before he could get there. If Cypher had asked for entry into the palace he would've been stopped before he could get in. But instead, Cypher requested something insanely high... Entry into the throne room. This made Guilliman think this was his goal. How often is anyone allowed entry into the throne room. The Custodes were even wary of letting Guilliman in. Not even Celestine or Cawl were allowed into the throne room... Only Guilliman. It was an outrageous request and I believe Cypher knew this. He made the request as a bargaining chip to at least get exactly what he wanted. Access to the imperial palace. We often think that everything stems on the Emperor and that has probably been the folly of mankind and the imperium for so long. So much importance is put on one person, but there are far more important things in the Galaxy than the Emperor, and dare say I, there are far more important things on Terra or in the imperial palace than the Emperor, but mankind is probably too naive to see it. But the chaos gods probably aren't and Cypher probably isn't either. Kill the Emperor, schmill the Emperor... Who cares. There is something more intricate at play than the concern of a rotting corpse. The funniest thing is... The dark angels secrets are beyond their reach to stop now. The few fallen that were with Cypher are still imprisoned and able to be interrogated by the Custodes and then all the dark angels secrets may come out, if not out already. The dark angels surely can't go to Terra and demand the release of the fallen into their custody. Surely the Custodes don't want to let it get out that they failed once again by letting Cypher escape. The other reason I believe Cypher accomplished his goal is because he knew just how to escape imprisonment, which means he had inside help or he already knew how he would escape imprisonment and had anticipated being betrayed at some point or anticipated getting imprisoned in the imperial palace. Now if I'm correct and I know Cypher was smart enough to know how to manipulate the situation to gain access to the Imperial Palace, the question is, why would Cypher want to gain access to the imperial palace? Where is Cypher now, and what is he doing? "Answers only lead to more questions"
"We don't know if Cypher left Terra. We also don't even know if Cypher left the palace" It's worth nothing that the 8th edition Dark Angels codex has him being pursued by the Unforgiven during the Darkmor Massacre which occurred *after* the Great Rift opened (which took place after the events of Rise of The Primarch)
@@40KTheories thanks for the info. Their is a little bit of lore all over the place. Maybe he already did what he needed to do in the imperial palace then.
Assuming that's actually Cypher and not a decoy. (he seems to have taken lessons from Alpharius and Omegon...or possibly the third head of the dragon, Enigma. ;) As for what's in the palace, data. All those com networks, all those intel networks, all those troop dispositions, defense plans....
@@markrtoffeeman lol! You have let the lies of those in the imperium fool you. Come to know the truth. The universe has always and ever be chaos, there is no reason, there is no order. If you don't believe me... Just ask your brain dead Emperor as he drools on and sharts himself as an astronomicon conduit. Oh wait he doesn't shart himself he has a sucking tube rammed up his butt hole for that. 😋🤣😂🤣
Cypher. He is the grand enigma. The estranged brother. The marine without master. He appears as a lonely, cowled figure who darts from planet to planet; slaying all from Imperial officers to puke wizards. He eludes all who try to imprison him, leaving no trace behind. No one knows his techniques, no one knows his identity, and no one knows his plan. Is he the imperium's greatest hope? Or its greatest threat? No one can say. Except I, who could explain it but alas, comprehending the incomprehensible is reserved for galaxy brains such as I. You are but dough brains to whom I shall explain nothing. One thing is for certain however, he is super mysterious and a pretty cool dude and he has two guns! One plasma, one boltgun. Rad Lad. Man Emperor of mankind. If the Emperor Had A Text-To-Speech device. Ep 28: Custodian Hustle.
I get the feeling what he wants is inside the webway gate in the throne room. He intends to open it, letting a whole bunch of demons into the throne room just so he himself could enter into it.
If "Cypher" is actually a title, then would it be possible that many of the contradictory actions were done by different Cyphers over the centuries acting on their own motives? I see Cypher as being the Hattori Hanzo of the Adeptus Astartes. Multiple people operating under one name that is passed down, which leads to people conflating them all as a singular person of seemingly impossible feats and contradictory motives.
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My theory: there is no purpose. He's just there to be oh so super cool and mysterious and GW has no idea what to do with him.
That’s the “placeholder role” for every random cool character. Cypher has value as long as GW hasn’t yet f**ked him up.
So he's the Wolverine of GW?
He just does whatever he want too because he can
GW never knows what to do with epic characters, they are more inclined to allow the players to fresh out the lore.
so, the TTS version
Cypher appearing before the Emperor: "Tag! You're it!"
Cypher runs off!
Emps: *ABSOLUTELY FUCKING LIVID*
Emperor regains his flesh and gives chase.
I love this community
@@unbreakablelag are you unaware? That is his plan. For the Emperor to awaken.
The god emperor"hay no fair....I'm stuck on this golden throne..I can't move remember"
Cypher just wanted to throw a book at the Emperor and yell "PRAAAANK!"
" What is this? Secrets of the Dark Angels Part 1? ... "
Destruction ensues outside of the Emperor's Chamber as Azrael barges in with his forces.
Azrael: "Greetings my emperor. I am Azrael, Chapter Master of the *very loyal* Dark Angels Space Marine Chapter"
@@Eckef Emperor:
*SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU PARANOID FUCKASS!*
Pretty sure Cyphers main goal is to kill the Emperor so he respawns with full HP and Mana...but the Imperium is too scared of what might happen...
@Desuo for a moment I believe. That is.. If the emperor resurrects.
@Desuo you do realise it wont make warp travel impossible just very very hard like it was during the great crusade
I wonder about Vulkan’s killswitch device in that occurrence.
I mean, you can just ask Emperor himself if it is possible and how lol.
@@gregjeffery2791 Dead Man's Boom
There is no Cypher, the Dark Angels have nothing to hide, and if you'll kindly come along our friendly interrogator chaplain, Admodai, can answer all your questions in _excruciating_ detail.
Jackson Bowns (distant yells of “REPENT MOTHER F*CKER)
Amen Battlebrother! Those who think another way are Fallen themselves , or friends of Fallen, or passed by a friend of Fallen, or breath the same air as a Fallen by occasion....purge them all, just to be sure.
No thank you, I don't need another beatin- er, I mean Q & A with old Admodai anytime soon.
you dark angel mains have no chill...
You guys need to have a trip to space wolf's homeland and cool your head down a bit.
@@jackwong4198 They can't, they already burnt it down because the gullible Brother Lovers got duped hard by Tzeench into attacking Fenris
In response to those asking if Cypher is still on Terra, it is very heavily implied (if not outright stated) that he is not, as the 8th edition Dark Angel codex states that Cypher was being pursued by a number of Unforgiven Chapters during the Massacre at Darkmor, which occurred following the opening of the Cicatrix Maledictum/Great Rift (which itself was after the events of the 13th black crusade).
He is also being currently hunted down by a number of Custodes and Sisters of Silence.
Nobody escapes the palace dungeons and gets away with it! *shakes golden fist*
Except for Cypher apparently.
He still might be on Terra. Warp travel potentially can move someone into the past. It is possible this encounters are history for Cypher. I know it is a stretch but it is a possibility.
"Nobody escapes the palace dungeons and gets away with it! "
Cypher: Hold my beer.
Cypher's mission is simple: He's a JJ Abrams' Style Mystery Box.
And just like a JJ Abrams' Mystery Box, he will never be opened, because when you do, the audience is always incredibly disappointed.
"Nobody escapes the palace dungeons and gets away with it!"
"Challenge Accepted" - Cypher
"Haha, no one can escape these dungeons!"
Cypher accesses console command, types noclip.
Cypher was given Root access to Imperial Network during the Horus Heresy and the admins have horrible Network Security
@@iamkrohn except for the throne room.
Cypher: *returns the Lion's sword to the emperor*
The Emperor: *"I HAVE THE POWERRRR*
By The Power of Grey Skull !!!!!!!
Cypher is to good to be a mere Space Marine (Escaping the more powerful custodes). He must be the third Triplet Primarch Sigma of the Alfa Legion in pursuit of the ultimate covert operation. Restore the Emperor!
interesting idea.
Triplet nothing! He is Alpharious.
@@danieltgrissani no. i am alpharius
Cypher is a Librarian. Read the Horus Heresy books.
@@topgun92x Restore the Emperor in Tzeentch's name, for maximum confusion!
I believe that Cypher is on the side of the Loyalists and was ordered by Lion El’ Jonson to make sure that the Dark Angels would not fail the Imperium by getting caught up in other threats and not recognizing the threat of Chaos, so he is like a lodestone of sorts to bring the Dark Angels attention upon dangerous elements that could possibly bring down the Imperium. One of his quotes, I believe tells us about his purpose.
“The Heavenfall Blades were tempered with blood and fire. So I shall test the Unforgiven.”
Definitely! It’s almost as if he is preparing them for something.
I see him more as a Daemon of Caliban. Loyal to the Dark Angels first and Imperium second. Similar to your theory, his goal is divert attention to the machinations of Chaos and Chaos contrivances. He sees Chaos as tools to further the cause of the Dark Angels and to finally see them redeemed.
Mind ur business. I'd pay to see that
Richard Fore - Uh... yeah, pretty much nailed it. Except probably not the first part... the HH novels have made it increasingly clear that (epically) failing the Imperium, getting caught up in irrelevant nonsense, and being hilariously oblivious to Chaos are the top 3 favorite hobbies of the Dark Angels in general and The Lion in particular. And they are damn good at them to this day. If I tried to list every time their jackassery caused a catastrophic fuck-up for the Imperium during the HH (which I could, because Warhammer trivia is one of my superpowers), then... well... it would be a really, REALLY long list... after the recent ‘Dreadwing’ novella, I am prepared to argue that of all the Legions- including the traitors- the Dark Angels were actually the greatest threat to the Imperium. That’s without even including The Fallen- I mean just the loyalist Dark Angels. If you bring Luther and friends into the conversation, there’s no contest. Horus himself looks at the Dark Angels and feels nothing but raw envy at what they managed to accomplish. I may petition Arch Warhammer to change it from #BlameLorgar to #BlameLion. At this point, he’s a serious contender to beat out Abaddon for the title of ‘Worst Son in the history of children’.
After all, countless relics, data scrolls and texts are stored in the imperial palace, maybe some powerfull enough to resurect or return a lost Primarch with just his blade as input
REMLEIZ, because of this, we have to work the interrogator chaplains on overtime!
Lol
@@golgarisoul I'll get you yet, *shakes fist at Cypher*
REPENT MOTHER FUCKERS!
Shit really? I'm gonna need more coffee. Do you think we can nab a pain glove from Dorn's boys? Not the Angry ones though, wouldn't be worth it. Oh and we'll need more of Corax's teen years emo poetry.
Hello may we help
The truth is [REDACTED]
Ah, so that's why tou're trip too so long. Did everything make it in one piece?
I am Alpharius?
@@joekun4840 No, I am Alpharius
I see what you did there
@Joe Kun, @Piekielne Ciastko, ladies, ladies, don't argue. We're all Alpharius.
He's clearly going to install a text to speech device
I'm guessing Guilliman didn't want that blade anywhere near The Emperor because it's also a symbol of people of Ultramar revolting against the Imperium - Guilliman broke the sword because Johnson ordered the orbital bombardment of the rebels... Guilliman cannot allow The Emperor to know of that. He likely didn't know that sword had been reforged.
No, its likely that the blade is carrying a *massive* psychic imprint on it that could effect the emperor in all sorts of awful ways were the blade to come in contact with him.
Cypher is part of the webway creation entity. Hence is movements through space.
Cypher brings conflict wherever he goes to test the unforgiven. If they have done enough by the time cypher reaches Pimp Daddy E then the lion will wake, and have the entities loyalty completely. Being able to control the webway means no more demon invasion of the earth portal. Big E can revitalise himself.
And the dark Angels legion can wtfpwn out of the webway so fast They will need to paint their armour red.
Pimp Daddy E
Ar you talking about the Ourobouros/Tuchulcha/Plagueheart entity? Or Tuchulcha alone?
Make them repent.
DID SOMEBODY JUST SAY MURDER ANYONE VIOLENTLY!?!?
That's just Azrael commanding Asmodai to teach the uncultured swines what "the fallen" means.
Pardon my ignorance, but what are the Fallen?
@@fumarc4501 make him repent Asmodai!
@@asakura8329 *REPENT!*
@@asakura8329 I'm pretty sure murder is not repent
Yeah but what if cyphers plans aren’t related to the Dark Angels themselves Chaos or bringing back the Emperor. Maybe he’s trying to bring back the Lion. Or maybe he’s trying to seek what he sees justice for the unjustice done to him by the Lion and the Dark Angels. You never know he could have completely mundane goals. Like maybe he wants a cookie from the Emperor’s cookie jar.
The Emperor's cookie jar is the holiest of cookie jars
His ultimate objective? To be the most slippery astartes ever.
He’s stealing the custodes greese
Uncle T
Alpharius anyone?
Tell me WHERE IN THE WORLD IS *Cypher the Astartes*
Cypher's ultimate objective is to show off.
''Self-replicating whatnot''
You mean... a cancer?
Cypher is going to bring back the Emperor.
It's clear he's a true son of the Emperor.
Because the Emperor protects those that serve him. Including letting him escape the imperial dungeon
It could be that the emperor of mankind recognizes that the regular sacrifices of psykers and the mass belief in him as a god has actually made him a god but he is still shackled to the golden throne. If the body is destroyed then the emperor may be able to take the fight to the gods of chaos in the immaterium.
@@MidasMakeItRain That, however leaves one itsy bitsy problem - the MASSIVE Warp Rift that Magnus stupidly created at the start of the Heresy. Said Rift is, (or so I'm lead to believe) as big as the Eye of Terror. Unless there's a comprable psyker (or group of them, on par w/Malcador or Magnus) then Terra..? Is going "Bye-bye!"
It is (and remains) the best Catch-22 that the folks at WH40K have given us. (Which begs the question - "How the *FUCK* is Papa Smurf gonna solve this dilemma..?")
*;-}*
@@Sidragrosm answer during the 21th black crusade, as abaddon is working for the emperor directly.
Or he got some help from so cloaked midgets with red eyes!
@@Sidragrosm There's only one with power potent enough to use the Throne. Magnus. But that would mean the Imperium must find a way to return him to the fold.
I think Cypher is Corswain and the Lion's soul is trapped in the Lion sword on his back. The watchers placed his soul in the sword after his anguish of Luther's betrayal and his mind was broken. They entrusted it to Corswain as he was the only one who could do the job, switched places with Zahariel, and went on the run. When Cypher gets the sword to the emperor, he will fix the sword and the Lion's mind, forgiving the Dark Angels and bringing the Lion back to the imperium. That's what I like to think, mostly because corswain is awesome.
Corswain IS AWESOME. . . But then I must ask, why is Cor using two pistols when he was a legendary swordsman?
I like your theory though.
Haha I know. The theory has its holes. Maybe he decided shooting was the way to go, make some shooting sounds as he runs around. Pew pew!
@@kingbaldwiniv5409 he only has enough "space" to carry one sword, not to mention the Lion's sword, thus not being able to carry any other melee weapon and stick with two pistols
@SmashStomp Inc, maybe, but he was pretty well resolved as he cleansed the defense platforms of traitor astartes.
"Of course we ran, to remain meant death."
-spoken by traitors of Caliban recounting their blatantly RUNNING AWAY from Corswain. I can't remember the book.
@@d8god, he could have done a parallel sheath, like daisho.
Cypher presents the Lion Sword to the Master of Mankind...
"My lord, may I have your autograph?"
Cypher "Why would I try to assassinate a dead guy, bloody idiots"
Imperium "Then why would you court alliances with blasphemy"
Cypher "What? I like a good fight and last time I checked fun isn't a recognized form of heresy"
Inquisition "That won't stop us!"
Cypher "Oooooh I do love a challenge, you better try harder this time"
Cypher = Chaotic Neutral LOL
Redemption was at hand, but SOMEONE *looks at Guilliman* screwed things up.
Guilliman ALWAYS makes the right decision. . . after every other one has been exhausted.
@@kingbaldwiniv5409 We'll see in the end. Cypher will take off his Hood and it'll be Alpharious, that was secretly Omegon who was infiltrating the Dark Angels so long ago, only to go to Big E and say that everything is going as planned, but Mr. Plot Armor screwed the plans and now Terra is doomed.
Gg wp😂😂😂
@@sk00b72, I give you even odds.
@@kingbaldwiniv5409 At least it'll be interesting to see what'll happen in the near future.
Really, Big E screwed things up from the get go.
He:
a) created a caste society with his "sons" at the top creating a hereditary monarchy. And of course no hereditary monarchy has ever had a son try to seize the throne...oh wait.
b) He entrusted too much power into too few hands. There shouldn't have been a war-master. There should have been a council of brothers as equals.
c) he put his "sons" on a massive ego trip about how awesome a bunch of demigods they were then expected them to not have ego trips?
d) some of his sons (Angron comes to mind) should not have been given their legion till they got their heads straight.
e) completely disregarded everyone in the whole galaxy's will and forced his agenda down everyone else's throat at bolter point. That does not breed loyalty. Which is why there are constant mutinies and Chaos takeovers all the time. Big E didn't convert the people of the galaxy, he bullied them into submission. Which is why they have to have exterminatus in 40k, because that simply doesn't work long term.
I could go on. The Imperium was fatally flawed from its birth and things have only gotten worse as time goes on.
++++ There is No Fallen, The Sons of Lion are Completely LOYAL ++++
@@ScooterinAB which is exactly how a genestealer cultist would shift blame...
++++ sure brother, just Like you did to Fenris with our secret, everyone has their renegades. We kill them for treason! ++++
Scooter Campbell by that logic, all loyalist chapters are guilty.
@@mastercharlesdiltardino8058 which is exactly what a tau would say to incite the heresy of "the greater good"
Bullshit, bout as loyal as a girl by her self at spring break 😂😂
Cypher really just doesn't seem like a true traitor, he's not in allegiance with Chaos, he's an independent marine with no allegiances except to his Legion and Primarch too so the first theory that he wants to lay the Lion Sword at the feet of the Emperor to beg forgiveness for his and all the Fallen's sins makes a ton of sense
so instead of Carmen Santiago this is where on Terra is lord cypher
Personally I'm with the whole Cypher is a loyalist side of the fence. He's probably trying to redeem the Fallen and or help bring about the Emperor's return...but as no loyal marine would ever help Chaos?? Idk he's highly suspect.
He doesn't "help" the Forces of Chaos, he USES them and then leads them to their doom.
At least that's how I like to justify it.
Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war. He might be helping the imperium by helping chaos win certain engagements swiftly so the imperium doesn’t sink to much into conflicts they can’t win or aren’t worth it so they can focus on other more important battles. Or he is just an edgy boi
Keep your friends close.
Keep your enemies closer.
He destroys Chaos from within. He's incorruptible. This has been shown. As he's honoured his side of agreements. Where my Primarch Robute Gulliman dare I say it did not.
This shows sure signs of a loyalist Space Marine.
I could see where you come from..but with that argument he also has to have some kind of chaotic taint..like I said no sane loyalist marine or marine with loyalist ideals would dare help Chaos..let alone fight in pitched battles to ensure their victory.
_The_Guard_Rookie_666 I mean alpha legion did it for what they saw as a greater victory in the ultimate defeat of chaos and the preservation of life and completion of the emperors goal to kill chaos
I like the new intro man good job.
No one ever new who Cypher was, even before the Heresy.
He runs around the galaxy fighting with every side causing only more chaos.
Able to escape capture easily.
Hanged with other harlequins.
Conclusion:: Cypher's a harlequin shrouded in Astartes image.
Why? Because this is the greatest prank even, Cegorach approves.
The greatest prank was getting the Imperium to read and believe Lorgar's shitty fanfic book about the E's divinity
*cypher enters throne room*
Emperor: Yes my child, kill me so I can regenerate and give 2 gold middle fingers the chaos Gods.
*cypher puts sword on emperors lap*
Cypher: I cannot kill the God Emperor 😢
Emperor: WHAT!? NOOOOO!!! I HATE ALL YOU FAILED EXPERIMENTS!!!
YOU ARE A FAILED BATCH! AND YOU ARE A FAILED BATCH! AND YOU ARE A FAILED BATCH! YOU ARE ALL FAILED BATCHEEES MAAAAAGNUUUUUUUUUUSSSS
Cypher is Alpharius, confirmed.
@Anirban Chakrabarti
Dude, don't tell me now that you are a Marxist too. That avatar is not ironical, right, you are a Marxist. If yes then this is ridiculous, a fellow Indian Marxist who is into wh40k, holy emperor Marx, what are the chances.
Clueless Maximus: “Seriously, no one can escape *this* shit. For real... Like, for real, for real... Not gonna happen. Nope. No escape. Nope nope nope. No, sir.”
Cypher: “Hold my beer.”
Clueless Maximus: “What? No I will not hold your- wait... where’d he go...? And... whose beer is this...?”
What if he’s trying to warn the Emperor about Horus’ betrayal and he’s really, *REALLY* late?
In a cell within The Rock, Dark Angels fortress monastery:
Cypher: wait! this is a mistake, I'm must complete my mission.
Interrogator Chaplain: let's change the subject please.
Cypher: I am Alpharius.
Whether he is Cypher or Alpharius...............
"Asmodei make him Repent"
Cypher is the 40k equivalent of jiggling your keychain in front of an infant and saying "shiny"!
Got some good artwork in this video. Always nice to have a few pictures to look at as the theory is considered.
He is doing it for the lols.
The true motive
Absolute mad lad
He probably just wants to give the Emperor a wedgie and then run away laughing.
The real question is, if the unforgiven learn that Cypher is on Terra, would the Lion's descendants purge Terra to keep their secret shame from the rest of the imperium at large?
Yes.
NEGATIVE. STRATEGIC VALUE ABSALUTE.
They are DarkAngels so quite simply they will assume everyone on holy terra up to the emperor himself are working for the fallen and proceed too fire chaplins on jetbikes at the throne world to make it repent, and maybe too capture the emperor because clearly he might know where the a member of the fallen is if not all of them... and we know what the DarkAngels do if they think anyone knows where the fallen somuch as buys coffee from a coffee shop 5 thousand years before they learn this knowlage.
Roboute would power fist them straight to death.
@@novaimperator1526 Not to the Dark Angels. The only thing that the Lion's filthy offspring consider of Absolute value are their secrets and the Fallen.
Cypher is actually Alpharius, and he's trying to get to the imperial palace to tell the Emperor his plan for saving Magnus from tzeentch so that they'll have another primarch return
New intro music? HERESY
Wow, your reading of the Caliban Space Marines' intentions and Luther's fall are pretty generous! I want you in my jury if I ever commit a crime! I could NEVER be convicted.
It sounds like Baghdad Bob's description of the very short war in Iraq. "No, no Americans here. . .", as the US Humvees pass behind him in the window.
The Lion's relationship with his father was definitely a bit unique. He was utterly loyal to the Emperor. As he conquered worlds, he did not see them as His Empire, he viewed them very plainly as his father's. He held nothing against the worlds were there people, they were intended to be part of the Imperium.
He was the first primarch, template for the first legion, and the Emperor crafted custom psychic touches in the minds of many of that first legion, like Astellan.
When the Imperium was threatened in the Rangdan Xenocide, the Emperor didn't send for Horus, he brought the 1st Legion.
The sword of his first son may have much more significance than simply being a killing tool, it may be the link to both awaken the Lion and resurrecting the emperor.
I really don't see any way that Horus nuking some other perpetual removes the Emperor's Perpetual Mojo.
I think Cypher is trying to regather the Fallen to find redemption and rally them to the Lion at his hour of greatest need, returning the Primarch's sword to his hand and his wayward sons to his side.
My theory, Cypher wants to kill the Emperor's mortal form to allow him to become a new 'Chaos' God. Chaos is in quotes because the Emperor would use his new literal god powers to crush the Ruinous Powers.
Just a thought... what if Cypher is Lion himself :O He appears to the Golden throne and says: father...
Cypher's ultimate goal: to Out-Edge EVERYTHING in the Materium and Immaterium.
Nobody. NOBODY. Men. Xenos. Gods. Inanimate statues. Nobody. Out-Edges. Cypher. Nobody...
I love the new intro, much nicer than before!
He always has a get out of jail free card up his sleeve
The entire collective union of The Unforgiven as of this videos posting: *OH FUUUUUU-*
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!
40K theories: What is Cypher's goal
Cypher: yes
He just wants to give the Emperor a big ol hug.
What if Cypher is actually the Lion?! Only the Lion know how to escape from every ambush from his sons
Cypher walked all the way to Brooklyn to bring the Emperor a sugar cookie...
I LOVE the new intro my dude! Friggin awesome
If Guilliman had held his end of the bargain, he could have added the stipulation that cypher was to hand over all his weapons, and be accompanied by guards, and maybe even guilliman himself
But would you let a shady character like Cypher any where near The Emperor
I believe Cypher wishes to use the sword reforged by the Eldari to reawaken the King who sleeps below the mound. Which is why he could escape the inescapable prison, take back his pistols and take back the sword leaving zero evidence on how he did these 3 separate impossible tasks.
Ultimate objective?
Out Stealth Sly Marbo and Out smart CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT LET'S BE REAL HERE NO ONE CAN OUT DO THOSE 2!
Raven Guard Mor Deythan: Hold my bolter
Cypher is the physical battlefield manifestation of the emperor. As the emperor may be linked in the golden throne, his psychic presence manifests as one of the 1st legion as he would have known them, black armour. I think this would explain Cipher’s ability to appear in the heat of battle, when the storm is darkest, to turn the tides for the empire. He will always run from the Dark Angels simply to avoid having his true identity found. His longevity since the end of the heresy and ability to survive the warp untainted could also be accredited to this idea. The fact that some of the Fallen believe that they still serve the Emperor could hunt at this. The Emperor may be so displeased with how his empire has fallen from his own vision, he may be trying to fix it from the outside, since he is unable to do so while sitting on the golden throne.
The new intro music sounds like two sound tracks playing over each other.
Dark angels"hay there he is..get him" Cypher"oh my... catch me if you can" (benny hill music plays as the dark angels chase Cypher thought a hallway of doors gag)
Great vid Rem! I like the new and updated opening you have. Looking good man, keep em coming
He's trying to kill the emperor so the star child can live.
More great work, your pretty good at this mate. I've tried watchin a few other ppl's 40k vids but it really is just you and Luetin09 up the top.
Oh yeah and the good ol "if the Emp's had a text-to-speech..." love it!
Hey Baldermort is really good too!
Keeps breaking in and out of everything, but can't seem to break into the throne room.
Not exactly Cypher related, but after seeing that picture of Luther I got the weird idea that he would be Lion El'Johnson's Anger Translator. He got left behind because he wanted to make nice with the other marine chapters, and with no Anger to Translate it just sort of built up inside him.
Cypher is a savior of the Imperium, treated as a traitor. His presence reveals the Fallen, traitors, and chaos worshippers, but always leads to the protection of those loyal to the Imperium. The Emperor protects his most loyal of children.
I love the new intro man, tho I shall miss the old one, you did great with this
This needs a follow up after the book. Pretty much confirmed he can forestwalk or something akin to it.
I was just joking about updating the intro to StringStorm's version, but you actually did it! Nice!
Important piece of info, read:
Lion El'Jonson was last seen in battle on Caliban against Luther. Luther goes full Chaos and mind blasts the Lion so hard he's 'mortally wounded'. This much we know already....
Who is Cypher? The Lord Cypher was a knight of lupus at the turn of the Horus Heresy, until Zahariel kills him and takes on the mantle, having been personally appointed by Luther. Here's the kicker: Luther claims his cypher was killed during the destruction of Caliban, who did it? Motherfucking Corswain, Possibly the greatest of the Lions warriors at the time if not ever.
Now in damnation of Pythos, Epimetheus is rumoured to be Zahariel due his incredible abilites as a Psyker, the fact that he was a 'fallen' of the Dark Angels AND a greater demon of Tzeentch was shocked to see him there as his destiny was to be different. As Tzeentch is able to foresee the future it cannot believe that this has changed and could spell huge consequences for the Chaos Gods' plans. If Zahariel took that role, then the destiny of Cypher could go to Corswain, the last to see him at the fall of caliban. The lord cypher is able to pass on the role to a successor.
If Corswain could learn to control the Ouroboros after expelling it from Zahariel, it could explain how Cypher is able to travel seemingly through time as he does.
If Cypher is Corswain, it could also explain his combat prowess.
I believe that Corswain, having taken the mantle of Cypher, found the Lions broken body and sword, he placed the body in the care of the Watchers in the Dark who as of a recent novel we know trust Cypher explicitly which if he was chaos aligned they wouldn't (they despise Chaos), but took the Lion sword for himself. The reasoning for this I gathered from 1d4chan, in that it seems like a great psychic entity is trapped in the sword, an entity far too much for Asmodai to even handle when he tried to take the sword.
When Cypher returns the sword to the body of the lion when the imperium needs him the most, will the body and soul be reforged into the Primarch of the Dark Angels Legion, and the Lion will forgive the Fallen and Luther.
Having a robe with a hood around your freaking POWER ARMOUR is like the hipster space marines. "Brother, you need to take off your hoodie before battle!" "Says you!"
Mr. Theoriez, Imma letchu finish, love the intro but just gotta point this out as far as that imperial aquila near the end:
Take it into photoshop-> Duplicate layer->Hide the first one-> Magic wand the negative space surrounding it & hit delete (You probably did all that so far)-> Now here's where we get rid of that pesky 1-pixle outline surrounding it that triggered this comment: Click the FX button on that layer-> Select Stroke-> Change the setting to Inner so it is not stroking going out, but going in-> change the pixle density to like 1~3. Ta-dah. Just like that, that entire white-pixle outline it's got going on disappears, especially within a black background.
If you don't wanna do that, then after the magic want step-> Selection menu-> Inverse selection-> Reduce/Expand your slection by like 1~2 pixles-> Hit delete. It should effectivly delete that border, but has more room for some jank.
Love you bae
I'm waiting for a twist like this:
"All this time youu thought I was Cypher, but it was I, Omegon!"
His main goal is to have a successful prank channel that the Emperor currently watches daily which is the only reason he permits this goes on.
Lion was right about Caliban needing a garrison. Shame Luther didn't think about that more.
Loving the new intro man
Cypher wants to show the Emperor his demo tape for his Grunge Band
The emperor owes cypher a tenner and he really wants it back.
CYPHER :
a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma
You changed the intro this is HERESY!
"Answers only lead to more questions"
I propose that Cypher did not fail in his mission as you say.
The biggest question is not what Cypher's objective is, but where is Cypher now.
From this let's go with the facts that we know of.
Cypher was on Terra, Cypher was imprisoned, Cypher escaped.
We don't know if Cypher left Terra. We also don't even know if Cypher left the palace. Because we don't know what Cypher's true motives were. We can't say that he failed in his mission. Cypher is known for having dubious motives. As naive readers we take things at face value just like naive Roboute. I don't believe Cypher ever expected to gain entrance to the throne room, at least not so easily. I also don't believe he may have wanted to get into the throne room, but merely to gain access to the imperial palace and Guilliman played right into this.
It's one of the oldest bartering tactics in history. Start out with an outrageously high price or request so that you can settle upon what you truly desire. Had Cypher asked for access to Terra he would've been stopped before he could get there. If Cypher had asked for entry into the palace he would've been stopped before he could get in. But instead, Cypher requested something insanely high... Entry into the throne room. This made Guilliman think this was his goal. How often is anyone allowed entry into the throne room. The Custodes were even wary of letting Guilliman in. Not even Celestine or Cawl were allowed into the throne room... Only Guilliman. It was an outrageous request and I believe Cypher knew this. He made the request as a bargaining chip to at least get exactly what he wanted. Access to the imperial palace. We often think that everything stems on the Emperor and that has probably been the folly of mankind and the imperium for so long. So much importance is put on one person, but there are far more important things in the Galaxy than the Emperor, and dare say I, there are far more important things on Terra or in the imperial palace than the Emperor, but mankind is probably too naive to see it. But the chaos gods probably aren't and Cypher probably isn't either. Kill the Emperor, schmill the Emperor... Who cares. There is something more intricate at play than the concern of a rotting corpse.
The funniest thing is... The dark angels secrets are beyond their reach to stop now. The few fallen that were with Cypher are still imprisoned and able to be interrogated by the Custodes and then all the dark angels secrets may come out, if not out already. The dark angels surely can't go to Terra and demand the release of the fallen into their custody. Surely the Custodes don't want to let it get out that they failed once again by letting Cypher escape.
The other reason I believe Cypher accomplished his goal is because he knew just how to escape imprisonment, which means he had inside help or he already knew how he would escape imprisonment and had anticipated being betrayed at some point or anticipated getting imprisoned in the imperial palace.
Now if I'm correct and I know Cypher was smart enough to know how to manipulate the situation to gain access to the Imperial Palace, the question is, why would Cypher want to gain access to the imperial palace? Where is Cypher now, and what is he doing?
"Answers only lead to more questions"
"We don't know if Cypher left Terra. We also don't even know if Cypher left the palace"
It's worth nothing that the 8th edition Dark Angels codex has him being pursued by the Unforgiven during the Darkmor Massacre which occurred *after* the Great Rift opened (which took place after the events of Rise of The Primarch)
@@40KTheories thanks for the info. Their is a little bit of lore all over the place. Maybe he already did what he needed to do in the imperial palace then.
Assuming that's actually Cypher and not a decoy. (he seems to have taken lessons from Alpharius and Omegon...or possibly the third head of the dragon, Enigma. ;)
As for what's in the palace, data. All those com networks, all those intel networks, all those troop dispositions, defense plans....
HERESY.
The Emperor is the most important person to have lived and who will ever live.
He is the reason Humanity survives at all
@@markrtoffeeman lol! You have let the lies of those in the imperium fool you. Come to know the truth. The universe has always and ever be chaos, there is no reason, there is no order. If you don't believe me... Just ask your brain dead Emperor as he drools on and sharts himself as an astronomicon conduit. Oh wait he doesn't shart himself he has a sucking tube rammed up his butt hole for that. 😋🤣😂🤣
Cypher. He is the grand enigma. The estranged brother. The marine without master. He appears as a lonely, cowled figure who darts from planet to planet; slaying all from Imperial officers to puke wizards. He eludes all who try to imprison him, leaving no trace behind. No one knows his techniques, no one knows his identity, and no one knows his plan. Is he the imperium's greatest hope? Or its greatest threat? No one can say. Except I, who could explain it but alas, comprehending the incomprehensible is reserved for galaxy brains such as I. You are but dough brains to whom I shall explain nothing. One thing is for certain however, he is super mysterious and a pretty cool dude and he has two guns! One plasma, one boltgun. Rad Lad.
Man Emperor of mankind. If the Emperor Had A Text-To-Speech device. Ep 28: Custodian Hustle.
This deserves way more likes than it got lmao
New theme music, and a new-and-shinier Aquilla.
I like the new 40kTheories STC.
Good video. I havent seen your videos in a while. I like your new opening.
I believe the Emperor is the only one who can reforge the lionsword, and Cypher wishes to use this sword to awaken the Lion.
Cypher is Omegon
Come on guys. We all know the truth here.....
Cypher is looking for his latest PRANK VICTIM
Loving the new intro my fuckin dude! Good video as usual, keep it up
He's trying to deliver a 'you have already won' letter
Emps: WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT PIZZA I ORDERED?!
Really liking the new intro.
"we have been exiled on our homeworld" worst punishement ever ^^
"I'm playing both sides, that way no matter who wins, I come out on top."
Maybe he just wants a refund on the broken sword? :P
Daniel Mårtensson He’s going to give the Custodes a bad Yelp review.
You broke it you pay for it
Cypher wants to slay the Emperor to Trigger the Doomsday device I’m the throne to Slay chaos.
Great video 40k Theories, and Cypher is badass
He just wanted to remind the emperor that his warranty for his car was expired and that he could offer an extended warranty package just for him.
I get the feeling what he wants is inside the webway gate in the throne room. He intends to open it, letting a whole bunch of demons into the throne room just so he himself could enter into it.
If "Cypher" is actually a title, then would it be possible that many of the contradictory actions were done by different Cyphers over the centuries acting on their own motives?
I see Cypher as being the Hattori Hanzo of the Adeptus Astartes. Multiple people operating under one name that is passed down, which leads to people conflating them all as a singular person of seemingly impossible feats and contradictory motives.
i wonder if there is more to that sword now... it might be the how cipher does so many unexplainable things on his own!