@@frankmaitland1254 to be fair there are no good QBs. I would have disagreed with him on that take, but I respect his opinion in a way I don't many others in the CFB media space
@@frankmaitland1254 So did a lot of analysts. You're allowed to alter your predictions after new information right? Kinda like now we know Indiana is not elite but may get a playoff birth by default. A playoff birth which I have to agree with due to how this is structured, even though better teams have worse records. 🤙🏽 Imagine if we were all held to our first take on everything. 😂
As a penn state fan i dont give a shit about the national championship. We dont have the money oregon and osu do. We are getting a home playoff game, that is my natty and we csn beat a ton of teams at home. Everyone can sit on one. Cry more
@cameronkurtz7985 Penn State could beat many teams if Franklin hadn't run the same play 3 times in a row at the goal line they would have scored in that game. I don't understand why ya'll don't have the money. 107,000 people every Saturday. ?
You’re ridiculous…..Indiana had one real data point and they gotten beaten easily. Rewarding garbage and punishing tough schedules is idiotic. This system means having 4 good teams then nothing in your conference is better than having 10 good teams. Indiana would be a dog next week at 10-12 SEC teams. Just reading the record as though it means everything IS INSANE. Indiana is better than the Baltimore Ravens according to this standard.
@33moneyball Money Ball turned out to be mostly BS. huh? Well, Indiana had to beat the teams in front of them. With the exception of Ohio State they have done that. Indiana could possibly beat Oregon. Who beat who? Indiana got out coached. If they had stuck to what they did on that first drive the game would have been closer.
I don't agree with Muench about Georgia. They got bullied against Ole Miss, got lit up against Bama, and struggled against some awful teams. I don't know how you can buy that they'll put together 4 really good games. I would have them in the second tier, and OSU in a tier by itself.
The only school they played that was a contender spanked them...the SEC talent would wipe the floor with IU. UK and Vandy would spank IU and they suck in SEC standards.
@operationdarktolight4321 it doesn't fit with their and Russillo D Riding middling SEC teams. Having the most talent doesn't mean the best team. Hell, when Indiana had a quarterback that transferred, they were better than some SEC teams. That QB transferred and did alright by himself. I think he's 2 on Atlantas depth chart.
Who's the better team? Obviously Alabama. Who has played contenders? Indiana played 1 team that's a contender and got BEAT down. They aren't playing the same sport, it's like a high school team vs grown men.
Oregon has had adversity though… 8 conference games in a row missing multiple starters during that stretch. They could have folded in that Wisconsin game but they didn’t. A lot of that team remembers what happened last year with missing the playoff. Gabriel has been through the big games like Texas last year and OSU this year. They’re built for this.
NO 3 LOSS TEAMS IN THE CFP. YOU MUDDY AND DEGRADE THE WHOLE THING BY LETTING A 3 LOSS TEAM IN. NOW I SEE WHY THE SEC WANTED THE 12 TEAM PLAYOFF. SO THEY COULD GET MORE OF THEIR TEAMS IN. EVEN A 3 LOSS TEAM LIKE ALABAMA OR OLE MISS OR POSSIBLY A GEORGIA OR TENNESSEE. NOT GREAT!
Florida is a good team with Lagway, Auburn and Oklahoma are well coached and talented. If this Sooners team with that defense is the 13th best team in your conference then idk what to say.
I think the issue was USC and Michigan were both down (plus Iowa wasn’t all that good either), so you are left with Penn St, Oregon and Ohio St and then a big drop off after that to Indiana and then another big drop off to everyone else.
@@joshgoldberg8584 The issue with all these oversized leagues is there are three bodies battling for their interests. The tv networks want the matchups that will bring the biggest ratings. The coaches want "fairness" in scheduling which is to say they don't want their rivals to have easier schedules than them. The ADs and university presidents want to preserve rivalries to keep the donors and ticket holders happy. This creates a mess. When the league's come up with a schedule, they are projecting who will be good and who will not. Michigan, FSU, and Oklahoma are usually good. They weren't this year. Nobody could really project that Iowa State, SMU, and Indiana would be as good as they have been. It creates weird schedules. Texas has been on cruise control all year with a cake schedule of bad or backup QBs. Indiana was supposed to be the team that allows UCLA and Michigan State to have a chance to be bowl eligible. Oops. Stuff happens. The system would have worked better with smaller, more traditional leagues. It is inarguable that things would have been better with 10-12 team leagues where the teams play all or most of their conference mates. Everybody ran for the most cash, and nobody should have any sympathy for the teams who miss out. You take the check, you deal with the consequences.
@Scooter23456 Funny, people all said the same thing last year and Michigan retired Nick Saban and won the national championship. And the SEC is far worse this year then they were last year when they didn't even make the national championship.
@ the big 10 has won two national championship in the last 20 years, and you chose last year to make your point. Stop drinking the kool aid! Go look at Penn State’s and Indiana’s schedule. It’s laughable, and yet both will get in because of that laughable schedule. It’s bs!! But fools like you think it’s just the best conference. The last 20 years say it’s one of the worst! No clue how the big 10 still gets any credit.
@@Scooter23456 Where did I say "The Big Ten is the best conference"? Please, tell me. You're taking my words out of context to create a narrative. The bottomline is the SEC isn't near as good as the SEC honks say it is. And why do I point to last year? Because it's much, much more recent (and relevant) than what the SEC was doing 10 years ago when Saban was winning titles. It's an entirely different era of college football now that there is NIL and the transfer portal. And just like last season when the SEC was overrated and a Big Ten team, Michigan, beat SEC champ Bama and a future (and now current) Big Ten team, Washington, beat a current (slash future) SEC team , the SEC is once again being overrated. The playing field is leveling out in this era and all the SEC honks have to point to are the accomplishments from the past; accomplishments won mostly by a coach who is now retired.
@braska_Raskal must be. Every time they talk at the same time one of them is muted and I can't hear the first part of what they said. Oh well. All other TH-cam videos I'm watching right now are normal.
@lestercombs1871 im a cane fan. Could care less about these conferences. Just calling it like i see it. Also to think any fan of an sec team would be jealous of IU football is asinine
So thrilled there's finally a professional college football podcast. This is phenomenal
@@michaelhinojosa13 is he paying you to say that? He had Milroe QB 1 5 weeks ago.
@@frankmaitland1254 to be fair there are no good QBs. I would have disagreed with him on that take, but I respect his opinion in a way I don't many others in the CFB media space
@@frankmaitland1254 So did a lot of analysts. You're allowed to alter your predictions after new information right? Kinda like now we know Indiana is not elite but may get a playoff birth by default. A playoff birth which I have to agree with due to how this is structured, even though better teams have worse records. 🤙🏽
Imagine if we were all held to our first take on everything. 😂
NO 3 LOSS SEC TEAM IS A BETTER TEAM. WIN YOUR GAMES!
As a penn state fan i dont give a shit about the national championship. We dont have the money oregon and osu do. We are getting a home playoff game, that is my natty and we csn beat a ton of teams at home. Everyone can sit on one. Cry more
Penn State will take out an SEC team in Happy Valley especially when it's cold. I'm a buckeye fan Penn State can hang with any team in the country
@cameronkurtz7985 Penn State could beat many teams if Franklin hadn't run the same play 3 times in a row at the goal line they would have scored in that game. I don't understand why ya'll don't have the money. 107,000 people every Saturday. ?
I can't help myself. Years of enjoying Todd mess with helmet hair and being excited he got a Ringer job. But THE INDIANA TAKE IS RIDICULOUS.
You’re ridiculous…..Indiana had one real data point and they gotten beaten easily. Rewarding garbage and punishing tough schedules is idiotic. This system means having 4 good teams then nothing in your conference is better than having 10 good teams. Indiana would be a dog next week at 10-12 SEC teams. Just reading the record as though it means everything IS INSANE. Indiana is better than the Baltimore Ravens according to this standard.
@33moneyball Money Ball turned out to be mostly BS. huh? Well, Indiana had to beat the teams in front of them. With the exception of Ohio State they have done that. Indiana could possibly beat Oregon. Who beat who? Indiana got out coached. If they had stuck to what they did on that first drive the game would have been closer.
Taught you were right Ohio State, Oregon,SMU😮, Azizona State 😅
Jeremiyah Love is special. Not draft eligible till next year
I don't agree with Muench about Georgia. They got bullied against Ole Miss, got lit up against Bama, and struggled against some awful teams. I don't know how you can buy that they'll put together 4 really good games. I would have them in the second tier, and OSU in a tier by itself.
Dart only has more than 1 touchdown against Wake Forest, Furman, Arkansas and Georgia Southern…
Dude clearly hasn't watched Oregon enough saying they haven't seen adversity and that last year's team was better.
Indiana is better than psu
Sure, and probably as good as any school outside of the best SEC schools.
Indiana doesn't deserve to be in playoff? What are you smoking? One loss to the best team in the country? They DO deserve a spot in playoff SEC boy.
The only school they played that was a contender spanked them...the SEC talent would wipe the floor with IU. UK and Vandy would spank IU and they suck in SEC standards.
@operationdarktolight4321 it doesn't fit with their and Russillo D Riding middling SEC teams. Having the most talent doesn't mean the best team. Hell, when Indiana had a quarterback that transferred, they were better than some SEC teams. That QB transferred and did alright by himself. I think he's 2 on Atlantas depth chart.
Who’s the guy in the Nike shirt sweatshirt? There’s a reason people don’t know, because he doesn’t know college football.
I'm a osu fan but I'm still drafting will Johnson over Travis hunter
Buckeyes!!!!! OH!!!!!!!
Todd is blaming coaching on INDIANA PLAYERS .
After Alabama gets spanked He doesn't think Indiana belongs in? GTFOH
This is why I can't take him seriously. I'm all for SEC homerism but this is ridiculous.
did he say Alabama belongs in??
Who's the better team? Obviously Alabama. Who has played contenders? Indiana played 1 team that's a contender and got BEAT down.
They aren't playing the same sport, it's like a high school team vs grown men.
@@andrewmcmurray8081 obviously Alabama? 😂 Oklahoma and Vanderbilt
@@andrewmcmurray8081what’s your point, they lost to Vandy and Oklahoma
Winner of south carolina clemson😂
Oregon has had adversity though… 8 conference games in a row missing multiple starters during that stretch. They could have folded in that Wisconsin game but they didn’t. A lot of that team remembers what happened last year with missing the playoff. Gabriel has been through the big games like Texas last year and OSU this year. They’re built for this.
NO 3 LOSS TEAMS IN THE CFP. YOU MUDDY AND DEGRADE THE WHOLE THING BY LETTING A 3 LOSS TEAM IN. NOW I SEE WHY THE SEC WANTED THE 12 TEAM PLAYOFF. SO THEY COULD GET MORE OF THEIR TEAMS IN. EVEN A 3 LOSS TEAM LIKE ALABAMA OR OLE MISS OR POSSIBLY A GEORGIA OR TENNESSEE. NOT GREAT!
Yeah but everyone knows Alabama or Tennessee or Ole Miss is better than the likes of Indiana, Colorado, BYU, Penn State or any other school really.
Did the SEC want it? It makes no sense for them to participate in it
You muddy and degrade it by putting bad teams with inflated win totals in
Florida is a good team with Lagway, Auburn and Oklahoma are well coached and talented. If this Sooners team with that defense is the 13th best team in your conference then idk what to say.
So OLE miss could have run today he chose not to.
Oregon not ready? Way to out yourself Steve of not knowing ball
The big 10 has to do some with their schedules. The entire conference is dog shit outside of the top 2.
I think the issue was USC and Michigan were both down (plus Iowa wasn’t all that good either), so you are left with Penn St, Oregon and Ohio St and then a big drop off after that to Indiana and then another big drop off to everyone else.
@@joshgoldberg8584 The issue with all these oversized leagues is there are three bodies battling for their interests. The tv networks want the matchups that will bring the biggest ratings. The coaches want "fairness" in scheduling which is to say they don't want their rivals to have easier schedules than them. The ADs and university presidents want to preserve rivalries to keep the donors and ticket holders happy. This creates a mess. When the league's come up with a schedule, they are projecting who will be good and who will not. Michigan, FSU, and Oklahoma are usually good. They weren't this year. Nobody could really project that Iowa State, SMU, and Indiana would be as good as they have been. It creates weird schedules. Texas has been on cruise control all year with a cake schedule of bad or backup QBs. Indiana was supposed to be the team that allows UCLA and Michigan State to have a chance to be bowl eligible. Oops. Stuff happens. The system would have worked better with smaller, more traditional leagues. It is inarguable that things would have been better with 10-12 team leagues where the teams play all or most of their conference mates. Everybody ran for the most cash, and nobody should have any sympathy for the teams who miss out. You take the check, you deal with the consequences.
@Scooter23456
Funny, people all said the same thing last year and Michigan retired Nick Saban and won the national championship.
And the SEC is far worse this year then they were last year when they didn't even make the national championship.
@ the big 10 has won two national championship in the last 20 years, and you chose last year to make your point. Stop drinking the kool aid! Go look at Penn State’s and Indiana’s schedule. It’s laughable, and yet both will get in because of that laughable schedule. It’s bs!! But fools like you think it’s just the best conference. The last 20 years say it’s one of the worst! No clue how the big 10 still gets any credit.
@@Scooter23456 Where did I say "The Big Ten is the best conference"? Please, tell me. You're taking my words out of context to create a narrative.
The bottomline is the SEC isn't near as good as the SEC honks say it is.
And why do I point to last year? Because it's much, much more recent (and relevant) than what the SEC was doing 10 years ago when Saban was winning titles. It's an entirely different era of college football now that there is NIL and the transfer portal.
And just like last season when the SEC was overrated and a Big Ten team, Michigan, beat SEC champ Bama and a future (and now current) Big Ten team, Washington, beat a current (slash future) SEC team , the SEC is once again being overrated.
The playing field is leveling out in this era and all the SEC honks have to point to are the accomplishments from the past; accomplishments won mostly by a coach who is now retired.
That audio is unbearable. I can't listen anymore. Made it 5 minutes in.
Must be on your end because it sounds fine
@braska_Raskal must be. Every time they talk at the same time one of them is muted and I can't hear the first part of what they said. Oh well. All other TH-cam videos I'm watching right now are normal.
Indiana sucks
Do I smell some SEC jealousy?
@lestercombs1871 im a cane fan. Could care less about these conferences. Just calling it like i see it. Also to think any fan of an sec team would be jealous of IU football is asinine