reds can have francona he quit on his last team , the last thing pittsburgh needs to go along with a terrible owner, and a terrible G.M. is a manager who is a quiter !
4:34 sometimes my dad talks about the Pirates, and when they used to win World Series.. had nicknames like “the lumber company” I want that. I wanted to call Paul Skenes and Jarred Jones the Gas Company! But I can’t even watch let alone care let alone care enough to make up nicknames!
@@robertwestover2125 yea but he's old and on the back of his career and let's face it. He's not what he was 5 years ago. If we had him then maybe I'd be excited
What saddened me about this season was missing Bob Walk on the radio, a past time I enjoyed for years, but Paul Skenes and Clutch and others aside, I didn't care for the product. I was all in when Clint became the Manager. I dealt with his losing because winning was coming and it did. I have no such belief now and so the radio stays off.
Goose, I think it all starts with the man at the top. The Rooneys are winners. They expect winning. Mario and Berkle are winners. They expect winning. Fenway, with the Red Sox and Liverpool FC expect winning. Nutting is a businessman. He expects to make money.
Is it a coincidence Francona was hired by the Reds after it became apparent Shelton would be retained? Maybe not, but you're right, DK. The Pirates should be hiring proven winners.
Francona hire is salt in the wounds. Shelton isnt totally whats wrong its way more cherington but a move to a bigtime manager would put the proper pressure on all above and below 24-7. But here we sit
I've been screaming from the rafters...well...as much as one can on social media...for the Pirates to hire FRANCONA. They had a year. It couldn't be more obvious that they need to upgrade their management at every level yet...nothing of any substance happens and the hometown Hall Of Famer they could've had is hired by their closest rival. I am so freaking OVER the bumbling yet sanctimonious idiocy of this franchise. GOD they suck!!
I've posted this list elsewhere, but never here-- I've had PLENTY of things to respond to in relation to the topic of each daily episode on this site. Since I'm currently shifting away from adding my daily comments here about the continual and very grave problems -- and that are clearly continuing to GROW under this current Pirates regime -- I'm posting this list as a "pivot point." I don't live in Pittsburgh (or PA for that matter), but I'm methodically figuring out how I can somehow help to make an impact. In the meantime, here's my list. It reminds me every day why this Pirates team is currently STILL in big, big trouble: Dreadful Yes men Shelton Feckless Unfit Nutting Cherington Travis (Williams) Incompetent Offensive Negligent What do the first letters spell vertically? _Dysfunction._ *CLEAN HOUSE.*
DK, Cherington never said HE cares about the Pirates, so there's that, and after watching that epic comeback by the Mets, minding my sports business, I see breaking news Francona is going to the Reds?!?? You gotta be kidding me, who saw that coming? Just more gas to put on this Pirate fire, I bet we never even gave Tito a call! Freaking sad 😢
I could accept a more docile approach to the process. IF the process were effective and working. It's not so much that having a disposition of being angry when losing is needed. That's just one of many ways to skin the proverbial cat. It's that these guys seem in love with their process, they don't seem upset about losing, they accept it, they think anybody questioning that is the fruitcake.... but mainly: it's that the losing continues with no signs of changing. Ranked at the bottom for minor league system strength. Terrible at MLB level. Where is the payoff?
Hey DK. I don't know if you read these, but I have a question. Where is the MLB? Listen, if an existing, successful McDonalds is sold to a new owner, and' it underperforms, what does McDonalds do? They attempt to take care of the issue, correct? So 28 losing seasons out of 32 seasons total is baffling to me. How does this team (McClatchy and Nutting) get away with this. It seems to me that these owners are destroying, not only a successful market, but the brand (MLB) as well. I'm having a difficult time understanding why MLB isn't more concerned about the damage being done to its brand. It's not like there isn't tons of people with money out there that actually have the ability to own and' operate a professional sports franchise. Seems Nutting needs the MLB more than the MLB needs Nutting. Am I wrong?
Nutting has willingly taken over from Snyder and Spanos as the worst Professional Sports Franchise owner in the US market...that takes some doing, but Cherington overseeing the optic debacle of the Tellez DFA is so appalling it's only to be expected. An ethical wasteland.
They *allegedly offered to let IKF play the last game, probably because they would only have to pay half the 250 grand promised (Blue Jays would pay the other half). But he had "already checked out" two days before when they took him out of the lineup. To his credit, he acknowledged that he was hurt for a portion of the season and felt he "didn't deserve it".
DK, there is ONE thing you can do now we are in the off season. Keep this line of discussion going and don't let up! Maybe you can wake up some of those who are eithet feeling helpless or those who are apathetic! It needs to go outside and above the Pirate organization! Just keep informing the rest of us and maybe we can grow the fans mood on this crap show!
The Pirates for a long time have lacked fire in the clubhouse and the front office, guys who were not afraid to scream and call out people for poor or lackluster play. I'm thinking, in the older days about 3rd baseman Don Hoak and Manager Danny Murtaugh, and later on Manager Jim Leyland, and players like INF David Freese, C Francisco Cervelli, P AJ Burnett and C Russell Martin. These were guys who hated to lose and were ecstatic about winning, and it showed. I'm sure I'm missing others but for Gawd's sake, doesn't anyone anymore get mad at passiveness and losing...the little things like lack of energy, basic baseball and bonehead plays? These guys spend most of their waking lives at the ballpark working out, playing games, travelling to other ballparks, etc. Doesn't it make sense to try and make the most of it instead of just going through the motions? I don't witness anything that goes on behind the scenes, of course, so I may be missing that sort of attitude among some Pirates-organization people, but I want to see more active anger when things aren't working.
i hate defending Ben Cherington but i have too hopefully just this once. the fact is this team is making progress if you look at things objectively in 2020 the pirates won finished with a whopping 19 wins. in 2021 they won 61 games same with 22 but in 23 they wons 76 games same with this year. is it happening as fast as we want no but it's happening
DK keeps asking WHY fans would continue listening to these Pirates Daily Shots...Well, it's the ONLY one I regularly listen to, because DK is so good at addressing the issues. I can get Steelers/Penguins stuff all day long via national media outlets. The market is actually over-saturated with Steelers news. But without DK and some other good journalists in the region, the Pirates are reduced to being a punching bag by the likes of Jeff Passan, whose agenda is to use the Pirates as a pawn in the MLBPA's war with the owners. Kudos to DK. Keep these going.
Respectfully, David, if you're settling for 'national' anything when it comes to local teams, you're doing it all wrong. All 'national' means is that reporter doesn't cover the team, isn't around, doesn't talk to anyone or see anything. - Dejan
I am totally conflicted. I want the players to succeed and the fans to enjoy another playoff run. But I wish failure to the jagoffs running this organization. I am glad the season is over, I need a break. Another reason to dislike Cherington. When he perpetuates improvement when there is none. Oh, and not firing Shelton for Tito, is another reason for the dislike. Tito will out manage Shelton in 2025, guaranteed.
Same. Individually there are a few players I want to see do well and have success but I don't wish success upon this regime. Not Cherington, not Shelton and certainly not Nutting. But I could live with Nutting and his cheapness IF he actually hired smart baseball-driven minds to run this team. We see teams be competitive with low payrolls like Tampa Bay like Baltimore like Cleveland. Unfortunately Nutting is cheap in EVERY facet and makes garbage hires who in-turn make garbage hires themselves and so on
Unreal, Francona would have been a slam dunk. I miss Clint Hurdle too. I would've even been happy with the guy the Reds just dumped, David Bell. What a garbage organization.
I was agreeing with this episode until the last two minutes. I still can’t believe DK thinks Tomlin and the Steelers are “winners” when they haven’t come close to winning anything in basically 15 years now. They are losers and perpetual underachievers and they’re going to waste TJ Watt’s career the way they did Ben, Brown and Bell and Pouncey etc. Real winners don’t hold “going .500” as a mark of accomplishment or success. Pathetic losers who are used to and expect mediocrity do that, and that’s what the Steelers are. The truth is the penguins were the only franchise that cared about winning or success for the last two decades, that is until Mario forced out Rutherford and hired Hextall before selling the team to Boston ownership. Now we’ve gone from city of champs to city of chumps.
These episodes are therapy as a long suffering fan, tanks for sticking with it.
Thank you DK, Always great listen here. Looking forward for the next show.
Unlike the pirates I look forward to these episodes
We're the "Aints" now
Well the Reds got the manager that should be with the Bucs. Another fine example of loosing by the Pirates.
reds can have francona he quit on his last team , the last thing pittsburgh needs to go along with a terrible owner, and a terrible G.M. is a manager who is a quiter !
Oh, now I get it. Cherington is just a robot who was hired cheap.
Not cheap. - Dejan
I have coined the term "Process Sociopath" for this guy.
Cherrington must be WEF; you’ll win nothing and love it.
NICE. You'd have to think Nutting is for sure, since his family prints a daily propaganda rag.
4:34 sometimes my dad talks about the Pirates, and when they used to win World Series.. had nicknames like “the lumber company” I want that. I wanted to call Paul Skenes and Jarred Jones the Gas Company! But I can’t even watch let alone care let alone care enough to make up nicknames!
Kinda funny u say that, pitching ninja made a shirt with Paul Skenes and Jared Jones on it and it said "Allegheny Electric Company"
@@Odd1006 I called em the gas company cuz both was bringing straight diesel fuel at over 100 mph 😆
@@kelseywhitlatch173don’t forget to include Alrodis Chapman
@@robertwestover2125 yea but he's old and on the back of his career and let's face it. He's not what he was 5 years ago. If we had him then maybe I'd be excited
What saddened me about this season was missing Bob Walk on the radio, a past time I enjoyed for years, but Paul Skenes and Clutch and others aside, I didn't care for the product.
I was all in when Clint became the Manager. I dealt with his losing because winning was coming and it did. I have no such belief now and so the radio stays off.
By the way DK, my LUNATIC BRICK came in handy upon seeing that news about Francona last night! Talk about pissed off...😎
Empty platitudes lead to apathy.
Goose, I think it all starts with the man at the top. The Rooneys are winners. They expect winning. Mario and Berkle are winners. They expect winning. Fenway, with the Red Sox and Liverpool FC expect winning. Nutting is a businessman. He expects to make money.
Thanks, DK.
To Bob Nutting profit is the only winning he knows or is interested in.
Is it a coincidence Francona was hired by the Reds after it became apparent Shelton would be retained? Maybe not, but you're right, DK. The Pirates should be hiring proven winners.
Francona hire is salt in the wounds. Shelton isnt totally whats wrong its way more cherington but a move to a bigtime manager would put the proper pressure on all above and below 24-7. But here we sit
I said they should fire shelton and hire francona last season , oh well
Francona is going to make the Reds better quickly. Not good news for the Bucs.
I've been screaming from the rafters...well...as much as one can on social media...for the Pirates to hire FRANCONA. They had a year. It couldn't be more obvious that they need to upgrade their management at every level yet...nothing of any substance happens and the hometown Hall Of Famer they could've had is hired by their closest rival. I am so freaking OVER the bumbling yet sanctimonious idiocy of this franchise. GOD they suck!!
I've posted this list elsewhere, but never here-- I've had PLENTY of things to respond to in relation to the topic of each daily episode on this site.
Since I'm currently shifting away from adding my daily comments here about the continual and very grave problems -- and that are clearly continuing to GROW under this current Pirates regime -- I'm posting this list as a "pivot point." I don't live in Pittsburgh (or PA for that matter), but I'm methodically figuring out how I can somehow help to make an impact. In the meantime, here's my list. It reminds me every day why this Pirates team is currently STILL in big, big trouble:
Dreadful
Yes men
Shelton
Feckless
Unfit
Nutting
Cherington
Travis (Williams)
Incompetent
Offensive
Negligent
What do the first letters spell vertically? _Dysfunction._
*CLEAN HOUSE.*
Bring all that to OUR site: DKPittsburghSports.com - Dejan
@@DKPS_Pirates Just to clarify-- the entire post?
@@DKPS_Pirates I just reposted this on your site, and I edited the post for clarity. I hope it's sufficient from your point view (!). Thanks.
DK, Cherington never said HE cares about the Pirates, so there's that, and after watching that epic comeback by the Mets, minding my sports business, I see breaking news Francona is going to the Reds?!?? You gotta be kidding me, who saw that coming? Just more gas to put on this Pirate fire, I bet we never even gave Tito a call! Freaking sad 😢
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I could accept a more docile approach to the process. IF the process were effective and working.
It's not so much that having a disposition of being angry when losing is needed. That's just one of many ways to skin the proverbial cat. It's that these guys seem in love with their process, they don't seem upset about losing, they accept it, they think anybody questioning that is the fruitcake.... but mainly: it's that the losing continues with no signs of changing. Ranked at the bottom for minor league system strength. Terrible at MLB level. Where is the payoff?
Hey DK. I don't know if you read these, but I have a question. Where is the MLB? Listen, if an existing, successful McDonalds is sold to a new owner, and' it underperforms, what does McDonalds do? They attempt to take care of the issue, correct? So 28 losing seasons out of 32 seasons total is baffling to me. How does this team (McClatchy and Nutting) get away with this. It seems to me that these owners are destroying, not only a successful market, but the brand (MLB) as well. I'm having a difficult time understanding why MLB isn't more concerned about the damage being done to its brand. It's not like there isn't tons of people with money out there that actually have the ability to own and' operate a professional sports franchise. Seems Nutting needs the MLB more than the MLB needs Nutting. Am I wrong?
Why wouldn't I read every comment? - Dejan
@@DKPS_Pirates Thank you DK :)...So where is the MLB?
Nutting has willingly taken over from Snyder and Spanos as the worst Professional Sports Franchise owner in the US market...that takes some doing, but Cherington overseeing the optic debacle of the Tellez DFA is so appalling it's only to be expected. An ethical wasteland.
I think they also screwed KF out of a bonus too?
They *allegedly offered to let IKF play the last game, probably because they would only have to pay half the 250 grand promised (Blue Jays would pay the other half). But he had "already checked out" two days before when they took him out of the lineup. To his credit, he acknowledged that he was hurt for a portion of the season and felt he "didn't deserve it".
John Fisher still exists. Until he's ousted Nutting is a close 2nd in my book
I don't think he's taken over, he's been right there with them fora while. The Pirates have been the worst team in professional sports in since 1992.
@@41Brother2 Better someone move the team to another city and give us a shot at expansion than to be held hostage for 17+ years.
DK, there is ONE thing you can do now we are in the off season. Keep this line of discussion going and don't let up! Maybe you can wake up some of those who are eithet feeling helpless or those who are apathetic! It needs to go outside and above the Pirate organization! Just keep informing the rest of us and maybe we can grow the fans mood on this crap show!
If Tomlin was managing the Pirates , you media guys would set his bar at an 82-80 record as a winning season !
I’d take 82 wins at this point.
The Pirates for a long time have lacked fire in the clubhouse and the front office, guys who were not afraid to scream and call out people for poor or lackluster play.
I'm thinking, in the older days about 3rd baseman Don Hoak and Manager Danny Murtaugh, and later on Manager Jim Leyland, and players like INF David Freese, C Francisco Cervelli, P AJ Burnett and C Russell Martin. These were guys who hated to lose and were ecstatic about winning, and it showed.
I'm sure I'm missing others but for Gawd's sake, doesn't anyone anymore get mad at passiveness and losing...the little things like lack of energy, basic baseball and bonehead plays?
These guys spend most of their waking lives at the ballpark working out, playing games, travelling to other ballparks, etc. Doesn't it make sense to try and make the most of it instead of just going through the motions?
I don't witness anything that goes on behind the scenes, of course, so I may be missing that sort of attitude among some Pirates-organization people, but I want to see more active anger when things aren't working.
Oh no, we suck again!!!
I hate Cherington, more than Nutting. And I really am not a fan of Ogden Nutting's son.
i hate defending Ben Cherington but i have too hopefully just this once. the fact is this team is making progress if you look at things objectively in 2020 the pirates won finished with a whopping 19 wins. in 2021 they won 61 games same with 22 but in 23 they wons 76 games same with this year. is it happening as fast as we want no but it's happening
Why does Derek Shelton give DH and other players a “day off” so frequently, especially Andrew McCutcheon? They are now “off” for 4 months???
DK keeps asking WHY fans would continue listening to these Pirates Daily Shots...Well, it's the ONLY one I regularly listen to, because DK is so good at addressing the issues. I can get Steelers/Penguins stuff all day long via national media outlets. The market is actually over-saturated with Steelers news. But without DK and some other good journalists in the region, the Pirates are reduced to being a punching bag by the likes of Jeff Passan, whose agenda is to use the Pirates as a pawn in the MLBPA's war with the owners. Kudos to DK. Keep these going.
Respectfully, David, if you're settling for 'national' anything when it comes to local teams, you're doing it all wrong. All 'national' means is that reporter doesn't cover the team, isn't around, doesn't talk to anyone or see anything. - Dejan
I am totally conflicted. I want the players to succeed and the fans to enjoy another playoff run.
But I wish failure to the jagoffs running this organization.
I am glad the season is over, I need a break.
Another reason to dislike Cherington. When he perpetuates improvement when there is none. Oh, and not firing Shelton for Tito, is another reason for the dislike.
Tito will out manage Shelton in 2025, guaranteed.
Same. Individually there are a few players I want to see do well and have success but I don't wish success upon this regime. Not Cherington, not Shelton and certainly not Nutting. But I could live with Nutting and his cheapness IF he actually hired smart baseball-driven minds to run this team. We see teams be competitive with low payrolls like Tampa Bay like Baltimore like Cleveland. Unfortunately Nutting is cheap in EVERY facet and makes garbage hires who in-turn make garbage hires themselves and so on
Unreal, Francona would have been a slam dunk. I miss Clint Hurdle too. I would've even been happy with the guy the Reds just dumped, David Bell. What a garbage organization.
I was agreeing with this episode until the last two minutes. I still can’t believe DK thinks Tomlin and the Steelers are “winners” when they haven’t come close to winning anything in basically 15 years now. They are losers and perpetual underachievers and they’re going to waste TJ Watt’s career the way they did Ben, Brown and Bell and Pouncey etc. Real winners don’t hold “going .500” as a mark of accomplishment or success. Pathetic losers who are used to and expect mediocrity do that, and that’s what the Steelers are. The truth is the penguins were the only franchise that cared about winning or success for the last two decades, that is until Mario forced out Rutherford and hired Hextall before selling the team to Boston ownership. Now we’ve gone from city of champs to city of chumps.
DK is also the guy who did a complete 180 on the Pirates from "our team not his" to the Ben Cherington hire.
Sad