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Id love to see the difference between contrast and repitition because for someone thats not as experienced as you are it is hard to tell wheter something is meant to be contrast or just is a lack of repitition. Also, it would be better in my opinion if there'd be 1 design, where everything is done well in these type of videos so you don't actually know if theres something wrong. However, if you know that something is wrong with that design it is much easier and less challenging, having 1 very good design in there makes you question more things and actually think of each element or design principle in particular. :)
I really love how clean the first poster turned out without all those extra details...one thing I would change in the final version is change the color of "SALE" because it's not as visible and will not grab the attention as fast as it could have if it was that muted red.
I thought The same! But it can not be The muted red. Hmmm, maybee it could be a darker White, ou even the background could change, so the White would stand out more.
In terms of clarity and information hierarchy, i do acknowledge that the edited version of the first poster looks much cleaner and clearer. However, personally, in terms of aesthetics, i prefer it more before it is edited. It shows creativity and the whole layout in general looks more appealing to me and is a more unique design as well.
So today I got featured on Satori Graphics (9:01) 😁 I'm so proud of myself.. I really loved your redesign on the fashion sales, the red goes good with the touch of red on her skirt.. nice, great job...👍 Thanks so much for the feature 😁😁 I DESIGNED MY FUTURE TODAY
Always put the day of the week on a date card - Saturday, 25th May 2024 - I think shortened dates formats just do not work well. A long format date instantly tell me more about the date.
The clothing one was good, but I feel like the brand would take on an entirely different feel. The cursive and church references, places where people dress up, called for a less simple and minimalistic aesthetic in my opinion, and I think that identity should have been focused on more.
I've been watching your videos for a couple of months now and i have to say here that your Before and After videos have been really improved my work. I have been working with a utility company in my country (this is my client for 4 years now) and these few weeks i got quite a lot of compliments for my works especially the hierarchy lesson that give a big improvement in my work. Thank you for this channel.
I have recently started following your content to up my visual design game as an aspiring elearning developer, and I'm so thankful for your work. I am sorry that the comment section of each of your videos is so full of hateful people. Keep doing what you do. You're amazing!
Really like how you explain your design process and what is wrong before fixing it! The only one I didn’t agree with was the steeple logo redesign, agreed the old was was illegible, but I felt the redesigned one lacked personality. Personal opinion! Love the videos!
As someone who’s had to attend tradeshows and stuff, for the last design, I would have made the person’s title larger and kept the larger QR code. Generally at a trade show, the most important information you want to get from a person’s badge is their name, company and title. A lot of the time, you’re meeting with a lot of people really quickly, so having this info front and center so people can see it at a glance is important. I’d also keep the QR code large because sometimes when you’re scanning a bunch of leads small QR code’s are harder for the scanner to pick up - which leads to a lot of fumbling to try to scan at the right angle and is annoying when you’re meeting with a lot of leads. Just a few thoughts from a functionality perspective. Great redesigns though.
These before and after videos are really intriguing. I have learnt quite well 😊 And also I would like to welcome you back from your weekend...I hope you are all better now 😁👍
The first one has a cool vibe at first glance but the "sale" message is entirely lost. The redesign is great but IMO the sale part would benefit from more emphasis. The wedding invite and the logo are both major improvements. In the case of the Steeple logo it's night and day, your idea looks simple but I think it's quite brilliant. On the ID badge I would go for a larger size on the name and job title, with a more legible typeface for the name as well. On another note, I really appreciate that you don't just say that some design is crap and why, but you go to show your ideas of how to improve it. I like to learn by example that way.
Thanks for all the videos. Always love watching your channel and new content you have. And I too was feeling low. Bummed out, but slowly just trying to create helps with the blues even drawing the blues helps
Thank you Satori. I appreciate the kind words. Im feeling better now. What aids the blues for me is to watch videos that inspire and perculate my creativity. Such as your channel. So thanks again for the content
Design 1: I could see the word sale but it was 5% grey on white - nightmare for my eyes. Design 2: Needs Comic Sans, Jokerman, and Papyrus in there, really it does! Design 3: I've seen stuff like that here, I'm running out of expletives. Design 4: "Yours sincerely" under the signature, should be above, but then again why is it there? Tom, keep the faith mate, it's down to 14 C at night here and I'm sleeping wearing every stich of clothing I have. Big love from Surin x
I agree with the rest and would like to add, those words such as Sale, Free, Soon in most cases if not all should be recognizable bolded, centered or at least approachable
These were good but I do have a little bit of critique and additional changes I'd make! First design change - SALE should be in a different color that stands out, it's blending into the background. I'd take out DISCOUNT and stack 30% OFF to make it larger and fit into the circle better. And the date should be larger as well. Second design change - Maybe I'm not thinking about this as a printed card, so maybe the empty space would be okay, but it seems WAY too bare. Probably would be better to bump up the font size a bit for everything except SAVE THE DATE. I'd also still use the same font for SAVE THE DATE, but maybe in a bolder weight. Third design change - ...the only thing is that Steepel could be like a Marshall Field's or Macy's deal where it's the name of the owner. That calligraphy style is what a lot of older companies used to use. What I'd like to see is how you could have done it without changing the name to Steeple, or at the very least show how an older company could modernize its logo. I don't particularly like the Steeple graphic for the logo either, it's sort of Star Trek-y (and I feel like it might be hard to put on marketing material with that whole lockup). Fourth design change - I like the design changes on this one... but that whole original design is so confusing! Is SATORI the name of the company or the name of the employee? Where even IS the name of the employee other than that dinky signature space (why is that even there)? Why in the world are you putting your blood type and sex on it? I've never had an employee badge like this. Usually, it's your face/name/logo/maybe a code for your department or position. These are the kinds of things I'd be questioning the client who requested this about but they'd probably make me add in all of the stuff anyway even if it didn't make sense, haha.
I have a question: Can you please do a video about accessibility and how we can make sure that our designs are visually pleasing and accessible. Thank you!
Your changes were so much better although on the examples presented, however for the first poster I would've chosen the change the colour of the word 'SALE' as it looked way too subtle. The 'Save the Date' card, the names of the couple I couldn't see them immediately so I'd make that section of text larger. All in all, solid work!
This was so good!! I used Canva for work a lot since everything is so fast and gone here (dealership life) I have to laugh at the first Canva one only because I couldn’t even do that one let alone how much better yours was! I’m curious is there anyway to make signs/posters with a bunch of information and it not look like crap? I have to all the time and it looks AWFUL you’d laugh so hard-hell I do. But I have no clue what to do to make it look ok.... love the logo redo!! LOVE all your videos!
You need to refine the design down to as little info as possible. Then work out which information is most crucial so you can apply hierarchy to the info. Also think of proximity so that you can group certain areas of information or assets together. Hope this helps :)
@@SatoriGraphics you are so kind, thank you so much for even replying. That is great advice! I am just a beginner wanna be. As well I hope you are doing okay, take a break from things, don’t burn out...we need you!🖤
Top job on the first example. Though if that blue was a house colour they may not agree with the red. Anyway, this inspired me to look at some of my logos from wayyyy back. And boy did I make some howlers. I'm hoping that means that by noticing their faults I must've improved!
the things i would refine: i would clear background and dots, highlight the word "sale" not fashion, cut out the design that is on the corners, eventually put the "sale " in the box so it can be functional and horizontal to make it easyer to read, make the woman smaller, first glance i saw the woman and not the "sale" word
Regarding the color of the sale design, do you think it was a wise decision to use a light color for light background, which simple just blends in and doesn't show that it is a sale.
Design 1: I think you really made a bunch of things and I not sure the difference between a redesign and a rework, but it looks more like a rework, in my opinion, because you change so many things like colors and shapes that I not sure if it was a good idea. Maybe the colors was part of the brand. Maybe they want to use FASHION in vertical and use the arrows to reinforce the idea of discount. Design 2: as some of comments are saying the message and focus of this design is the wedding of Hery and Tinah and its hard to see it in after and even before. Although your version is much more organized and beautiful, I dont see it as an efficient redesign. In my opinion, this one I notice much more as a redesign because you dont chance the essence and stil looks like it belong to the same brand. The 3th and 4th I dont thin I have much to say I just wanna thank you for this channel. The last 2 years I was working in data visualization design and now I moving back to logo and poster you are a great inspiration and update in terms of design thinking and work proccess
3:14 improved color, that was one of the first things I identified besides clutter and lack of strong visual hierarchy. The word SALE is still too faint and is one of the most important parts of the information on the poster, so I would still give your design a fail for that problem. Also a minor but annoying issue the spacing from SALE to the dates to the text below the dates is not a consistent vertical space which I would have fixed. And just my preference but I would have made the orange/ coral colored circle smaller, and I would have found a way to echo the angle slope of her hat somewhere else in the design although subtilely.
could be just to make steepel relatable steeple is a spire on a church, steepel isnt anything, so could just be because this time he had the freedom to change the name? idk just a thought
@@SatoriGraphics Is this something one could bring up with the client? In other words, is it common for the brand artist to suggest a change like this to allow for a greater creative outcome?
@@MrFHaugen that makes sense to me... I wasn't sure how much of that was implied. Also, it proved his point that the original font choice wasn't the greatest since the cursive e and l were so similar. I swear I'm not meaning to be so pedantic! :-)
I would have changed the “sale” color to be more poppy bc that was the whole point of the design step 1. Grab the viewers attention with “sale” then they would have probably looked at the percentage off. That’s just me though
For the first design of yours. Im my opinion, i could have kept the color of the word FASHION same while changing the color of the discount circle as you did.
My problem with this video is how you label unconventional designs as amateurish. There are different types of aesthetic and there's no one way to do graphic design. I feel like the first one was aiming for a particular look and it's kind of weird that you did the change to look like a whole new different look. I would appreciate this more if the change still looks like the aesthetic the original was aiming for.
The priority communication is “SALE, 30% OFF”. This was completely buried in the original. I don’t agree that “Sale” should be left white because it’s still partially hidden. Better if “fashion” was white”. OOH, what’s on sale? *searches.. Fashion is. In the 2nd one the priority communication is the date and then the two people getting married. Are we inviting androids? No. So the date should be in human-legible format, not a string of numbers and dots. What’s happening on Dec 13th? Joe and Joanna are getting married! Easy to remember “December 13th”. 12.03 must be written down and referenced. In the 3rd one your “steeple” looks like a mouse pointer. Totally agree with and envy your aesthetic improvements but I would just push those details mentioned a little further to call this complete. These critiques are extremely helpful and rather lacking on yt. I hope you do more.
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
There is something that I have noticed during the poster-making module in my school. While the neat posters do communicate more effectively, the hap hazardous posters(with a lot of elements) grab my attention more which actually makes me look at it.
Great changes! But... The Steeple Clothing went from womenswear to sporty menswear and I think it would’ve been interesting if you had taken that into account. Nice work with the other designs!
You designs are all good from a "technical" aspect, but I've noticed a trend with your videos where you "fix" designs by making them more simplistic, generic, and corporate-looking. The Steeple Clothing logo you made looks like it's the logo of an app that helps you find directions rather than evoking the old-fashioned fancy style the original is going for. It's especially important when designing logos to take into account the personality the brand is going for, as well as the intended medium the design is to be seen in, instead of recent trends of "cleaner" and "simple" designs. These videos have some decent advice, but they have issues with recommending things that happen to be currently trendy in corporate advertising as if they're the "correct" way to design things rather than just one stylistic choice that's available.
Hey Satori! Great stuff, as always! :D Still in the first example I think that the original color was better suited, since it was working well with the photo You've picked, the red was too aggressive, and there were not enough repetition of it to balance this out. Everything else You've showed there was great! You improved those designs significantly, hope to see more of those redesigns, cheers! :D
1. In sale poster, should not be the sale word in red color to make it more legible? 2. In save the date card. Is it not important to make couple name in bigger font ?
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
Hey Satori. Interesting content like always! Somehow, I really think you should re-check the _SALE_ word going on an already lighter background. Also, have you ever given a thought on doing design tests on *podcast covers* as examples? Would love to know if you have a video idea for this. Thank you once again.
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
You made a minor error in the 2nd design. Since you made the fictional address in the USA, the date should have been written as 05.25.24, to follow the American dating order. I think the easiest, especially when working internationally, it to have the date written out. I agree though that the original format was confusing. If they really wanted to keep all that information it could have been one line that simply said "Saturday, May 24th, 2024".
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
Now I learned something. Like editing video, I should be doing a design first, then look at it critically to find what needs improvement. Only then I can make a new one with improvement.
Design 1) While the layout was an improvement, the red was a step back. The original color was more pleasing to look at, and in better harmony with the other colors, in my opinion. Design 2) Your fonts were a bit too small, compared to the original, which were better suited for the card size. The layout of the original was actually better as well, the only thing needed changing, were the fonts to be one typography, and the word "the" centered. Design 3) You completely got it wrong. From the logo of what looked like a nose, to the misinterpretation of the word as "steeple" The design actually said "steepel" i.e being a made up clothing brand, with nothing to do with steeple. Design 4) Was actually just fine as it is. Not everything needs a change. Your changes actually made it seem more cramped. If you notice, the QR code was the perfect size to match the logo above and align with it, before you changed it. Just some honest objective criticism
Quite nice over all. But ... that last one, the name tag, if that was for an event then the text would be too small. If it's an office access card it would normally include a photo for security. It feels like you applied print design style while it may have needed something more like signage layout concepts. On the fashion poster, for the word sale I would consider a 10-14% black glow to lift it off the background a bit more, not too small as you don't actually want it to look like a shadow. As I said, it does all really look better, but at the end of the day, it would be up to the customer (that may have some very drastic changes in any case.)
sorry but design 1 was much better untouched. all it needed was some tweaks in typography. according to another video of yours a design has to first attract, intrigue, then convey a message (im not sure of the terms i binged your channel all day so idk which video to go back to). the original also captured the image's fun streetwear personality unlike the final edit which was unfittingly dull and boring
In my opinion you butchered the concept of the art in many cases. I feel there were solutions that would have been more professional approaches that could have maintained the style, if this was in fact about making improvements vs completely redesigning the concept. In my experience, you would have only pissed off the client by invalidating their creative direction. In the badge, while some of the changes I agree with, you made a huge mistakes that could inflict on the purpose of the media. Reducing that qr code is going to be a costly mistake when they print up the entire companies badges and none of them are scannable, or are at least too difficult for it to make sense.
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Id love to see the difference between contrast and repitition because for someone thats not as experienced as you are it is hard to tell wheter something is meant to be contrast or just is a lack of repitition. Also, it would be better in my opinion if there'd be 1 design, where everything is done well in these type of videos so you don't actually know if theres something wrong. However, if you know that something is wrong with that design it is much easier and less challenging, having 1 very good design in there makes you question more things and actually think of each element or design principle in particular. :)
Do's and Don't when making a poster.
Thank you.
Tell subscribers to send you stuff and then make it better and why you did.
You aren't an expert.
I really love how clean the first poster turned out without all those extra details...one thing I would change in the final version is change the color of "SALE" because it's not as visible and will not grab the attention as fast as it could have if it was that muted red.
I thought The same! But it can not be The muted red. Hmmm, maybee it could be a darker White, ou even the background could change, so the White would stand out more.
@@hk-hy3xc "darker white" I like that, never heard anyone say that before.
perhaps using the same colour as the background and give an outline with the same red colour of "FASHION" ?
@@daltanionwaves idk if you kidding. But if you are, there is literally nothing wrong about a darker White, seriously.
@@hrnnnnnd great idea, either!
1:50 I will give 10/10 once you make more visible the "SALE" text
Almost a perfect score then lol
In terms of clarity and information hierarchy, i do acknowledge that the edited version of the first poster looks much cleaner and clearer. However, personally, in terms of aesthetics, i prefer it more before it is edited. It shows creativity and the whole layout in general looks more appealing to me and is a more unique design as well.
Exactly my thought
have to agree
So today I got featured on Satori Graphics (9:01) 😁 I'm so proud of myself..
I really loved your redesign on the fashion sales, the red goes good with the touch of red on her skirt.. nice, great job...👍 Thanks so much for the feature 😁😁 I DESIGNED MY FUTURE TODAY
Good going bro, enjoy your day
@@SatoriGraphics thanks Tom, and you too 👍
Love the logo re-do and the save the date card. Clarity and simplicity is key.
Thank you for the inspiration
Yes! Thank you man
I could barely read the 'sale' on that first poster tbh. And the 30% should probably be bigger
Always put the day of the week on a date card - Saturday, 25th May 2024 - I think shortened dates formats just do not work well. A long format date instantly tell me more about the date.
You have a point
Good point. I also think the name of the couple should be bigger. Overall I like the format changes.
I NEVER use the day, month, year and the "th" or "st" together. I only use the "th" or "st" if there is no year
The clothing one was good, but I feel like the brand would take on an entirely different feel. The cursive and church references, places where people dress up, called for a less simple and minimalistic aesthetic in my opinion, and I think that identity should have been focused on more.
I've been watching your videos for a couple of months now and i have to say here that your Before and After videos have been really improved my work. I have been working with a utility company in my country (this is my client for 4 years now) and these few weeks i got quite a lot of compliments for my works especially the hierarchy lesson that give a big improvement in my work. Thank you for this channel.
Who needs a design degree when you've got Satori? Thank you for your insightful content!
Thanks for the comment :)
Glad your back at it and dropping knowledge for us always appreciated. THANKS A MILLI 👊🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽
More to come and thanks :)
I have recently started following your content to up my visual design game as an aspiring elearning developer, and I'm so thankful for your work. I am sorry that the comment section of each of your videos is so full of hateful people. Keep doing what you do. You're amazing!
Just wanted to say, " Thank You Satori." Because,
You are one of my greatest inspiration. 💛
thank you for the lesson and thank you for being vulnerable bro! keep up the great work with the graphic design and internally❤️
Thank you! Will do!
Really like how you explain your design process and what is wrong before fixing it! The only one I didn’t agree with was the steeple logo redesign, agreed the old was was illegible, but I felt the redesigned one lacked personality. Personal opinion! Love the videos!
As someone who’s had to attend tradeshows and stuff, for the last design, I would have made the person’s title larger and kept the larger QR code.
Generally at a trade show, the most important information you want to get from a person’s badge is their name, company and title. A lot of the time, you’re meeting with a lot of people really quickly, so having this info front and center so people can see it at a glance is important.
I’d also keep the QR code large because sometimes when you’re scanning a bunch of leads small QR code’s are harder for the scanner to pick up - which leads to a lot of fumbling to try to scan at the right angle and is annoying when you’re meeting with a lot of leads.
Just a few thoughts from a functionality perspective. Great redesigns though.
These before and after videos are really intriguing. I have learnt quite well 😊
And also I would like to welcome you back from your weekend...I hope you are all better now 😁👍
Thank you! 😃
Enjoy your day
Thank you Satori, you're one of my best designers
respect bro!
Much appreciated bro
The first one has a cool vibe at first glance but the "sale" message is entirely lost. The redesign is great but IMO the sale part would benefit from more emphasis. The wedding invite and the logo are both major improvements. In the case of the Steeple logo it's night and day, your idea looks simple but I think it's quite brilliant. On the ID badge I would go for a larger size on the name and job title, with a more legible typeface for the name as well. On another note, I really appreciate that you don't just say that some design is crap and why, but you go to show your ideas of how to improve it. I like to learn by example that way.
One thing I realized in this video, simplicity is key.
it really is 👍
Love it. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for all the videos. Always love watching your channel and new content you have. And I too was feeling low. Bummed out, but slowly just trying to create helps with the blues even drawing the blues helps
Hope you're feeling better now Robert. If not then you will eventually, it's just a matter of time. There is no mood or feeling that last forever 👍
Thank you Satori. I appreciate the kind words. Im feeling better now. What aids the blues for me is to watch videos that inspire and perculate my creativity. Such as your channel. So thanks again for the content
Design 1: I could see the word sale but it was 5% grey on white - nightmare for my eyes.
Design 2: Needs Comic Sans, Jokerman, and Papyrus in there, really it does!
Design 3: I've seen stuff like that here, I'm running out of expletives.
Design 4: "Yours sincerely" under the signature, should be above, but then again why is it there?
Tom, keep the faith mate, it's down to 14 C at night here and I'm sleeping wearing every stich of clothing I have. Big love from Surin x
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nice to hear that
I agree with the rest and would like to add, those words such as Sale, Free, Soon in most cases if not all should be recognizable bolded, centered or at least approachable
love your content! So easy and enjoyable!
hey thanks a lot Adriana
These were good but I do have a little bit of critique and additional changes I'd make!
First design change - SALE should be in a different color that stands out, it's blending into the background. I'd take out DISCOUNT and stack 30% OFF to make it larger and fit into the circle better. And the date should be larger as well.
Second design change - Maybe I'm not thinking about this as a printed card, so maybe the empty space would be okay, but it seems WAY too bare. Probably would be better to bump up the font size a bit for everything except SAVE THE DATE. I'd also still use the same font for SAVE THE DATE, but maybe in a bolder weight.
Third design change - ...the only thing is that Steepel could be like a Marshall Field's or Macy's deal where it's the name of the owner. That calligraphy style is what a lot of older companies used to use. What I'd like to see is how you could have done it without changing the name to Steeple, or at the very least show how an older company could modernize its logo. I don't particularly like the Steeple graphic for the logo either, it's sort of Star Trek-y (and I feel like it might be hard to put on marketing material with that whole lockup).
Fourth design change - I like the design changes on this one... but that whole original design is so confusing! Is SATORI the name of the company or the name of the employee? Where even IS the name of the employee other than that dinky signature space (why is that even there)? Why in the world are you putting your blood type and sex on it? I've never had an employee badge like this. Usually, it's your face/name/logo/maybe a code for your department or position. These are the kinds of things I'd be questioning the client who requested this about but they'd probably make me add in all of the stuff anyway even if it didn't make sense, haha.
I have a question: Can you please do a video about accessibility and how we can make sure that our designs are visually pleasing and accessible. Thank you!
you never fail me Sir Satori im learning a lot from you, thank you so much for sharing your ideas 🤩🤩🤩
Your changes were so much better although on the examples presented, however for the first poster I would've chosen the change the colour of the word 'SALE' as it looked way too subtle. The 'Save the Date' card, the names of the couple I couldn't see them immediately so I'd make that section of text larger. All in all, solid work!
There’s always so much to learn from you Boss... Thank you so much for all you do for us and me in particular ❤️
This was so good!! I used Canva for work a lot since everything is so fast and gone here (dealership life) I have to laugh at the first Canva one only because I couldn’t even do that one let alone how much better yours was! I’m curious is there anyway to make signs/posters with a bunch of information and it not look like crap? I have to all the time and it looks AWFUL you’d laugh so hard-hell I do. But I have no clue what to do to make it look ok.... love the logo redo!! LOVE all your videos!
You need to refine the design down to as little info as possible. Then work out which information is most crucial so you can apply hierarchy to the info. Also think of proximity so that you can group certain areas of information or assets together. Hope this helps :)
@@SatoriGraphics you are so kind, thank you so much for even replying. That is great advice! I am just a beginner wanna be. As well I hope you are doing okay, take a break from things, don’t burn out...we need you!🖤
Top job on the first example. Though if that blue was a house colour they may not agree with the red. Anyway, this inspired me to look at some of my logos from wayyyy back. And boy did I make some howlers. I'm hoping that means that by noticing their faults I must've improved!
Cheers for the feedback man
the things i would refine: i would clear background and dots, highlight the word "sale" not fashion, cut out the design that is on the corners, eventually put the "sale " in the box so it can be functional and horizontal to make it easyer to read, make the woman smaller, first glance i saw the woman and not the "sale" word
Welcome back! 🔥
thanks man, much appreciated :)
I really like your style ❤
I'm glad cheers
@@SatoriGraphics 🤩🥳
Regarding the color of the sale design, do you think it was a wise decision to use a light color for light background, which simple just blends in and doesn't show that it is a sale.
Design 1: I think you really made a bunch of things and I not sure the difference between a redesign and a rework, but it looks more like a rework, in my opinion, because you change so many things like colors and shapes that I not sure if it was a good idea.
Maybe the colors was part of the brand. Maybe they want to use FASHION in vertical and use the arrows to reinforce the idea of discount.
Design 2: as some of comments are saying the message and focus of this design is the wedding of Hery and Tinah and its hard to see it in after and even before. Although your version is much more organized and beautiful, I dont see it as an efficient redesign.
In my opinion, this one I notice much more as a redesign because you dont chance the essence and stil looks like it belong to the same brand.
The 3th and 4th I dont thin I have much to say
I just wanna thank you for this channel. The last 2 years I was working in data visualization design and now I moving back to logo and poster you are a great inspiration and update in terms of design thinking and work proccess
3:14 improved color, that was one of the first things I identified besides clutter and lack of strong visual hierarchy. The word SALE is still too faint and is one of the most important parts of the information on the poster, so I would still give your design a fail for that problem.
Also a minor but annoying issue the spacing from SALE to the dates to the text below the dates is not a consistent vertical space which I would have fixed.
And just my preference but I would have made the orange/ coral colored circle smaller, and I would have found a way to echo the angle slope of her hat somewhere else in the design although subtilely.
The first design or th poster was better at the end but if you change th sale color that would look amazing.
The original was “Steepel” - you didn’t address why you changed the name.
could be just to make steepel relatable steeple is a spire on a church, steepel isnt anything, so could just be because this time he had the freedom to change the name?
idk just a thought
Yeah I changed it to give myself an actual concept to run with for the video
@@SatoriGraphics Is this something one could bring up with the client? In other words, is it common for the brand artist to suggest a change like this to allow for a greater creative outcome?
@@MrFHaugen that makes sense to me... I wasn't sure how much of that was implied. Also, it proved his point that the original font choice wasn't the greatest since the cursive e and l were so similar. I swear I'm not meaning to be so pedantic! :-)
Great work! Can you say which font do you use for Steeple? :)
I would have changed the “sale” color to be more poppy bc that was the whole point of the design step 1. Grab the viewers attention with “sale” then they would have probably looked at the percentage off. That’s just me though
Int the first example crop could be better, not almost exactly hips, but half way to the knee? Avoiding joints rule?
Bottom line is SIMPLICITY. .. thanks for an awesome video
You bet 👍
For the first design of yours. Im my opinion, i could have kept the color of the word FASHION same while changing the color of the discount circle as you did.
Can i redesign or make new designs from the freepik free resources and use own portfolio? or social media platforms? and did i face copyright issues ?
Check the licensing on the Freepik website
@@SatoriGraphics thanks
Great video. Just loved it . Too much;)
I hope you're feeling better now mate.
Yeah I am thanks Gary 👍
Does anyone know which song is it in the outro?
Can anyone please tell me the name or the link of the music at the beginning of this video?
Steepel Steeple
White letters on a white background?
Explain to me why that's a good idea.
Please tell me the name of the background song you used in the video?
There are 3 songs, which one do you mean? All songs were sourced from SoundStripe
@@SatoriGraphics first sound bro
@@SatoriGraphics u are so mush perfect
As far as I know for sale usually we use red color.
Drop shadow to Satori is what the cube is to Blender 😆
My problem with this video is how you label unconventional designs as amateurish. There are different types of aesthetic and there's no one way to do graphic design. I feel like the first one was aiming for a particular look and it's kind of weird that you did the change to look like a whole new different look. I would appreciate this more if the change still looks like the aesthetic the original was aiming for.
The priority communication is “SALE, 30% OFF”. This was completely buried in the original. I don’t agree that “Sale” should be left white because it’s still partially hidden. Better if “fashion” was white”. OOH, what’s on sale? *searches.. Fashion is.
In the 2nd one the priority communication is the date and then the two people getting married. Are we inviting androids? No. So the date should be in human-legible format, not a string of numbers and dots. What’s happening on Dec 13th? Joe and Joanna are getting married! Easy to remember “December 13th”. 12.03 must be written down and referenced.
In the 3rd one your “steeple” looks like a mouse pointer.
Totally agree with and envy your aesthetic improvements but I would just push those details mentioned a little further to call this complete.
These critiques are extremely helpful and rather lacking on yt. I hope you do more.
You kept the key word SALE as a white font on an off-white background?? Who is going to read that? You do know how contrast works, right?
I would have Sale in RED and Fashion in white/black w/ a stronger tone of red
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
@@SatoriGraphics From working in retail I always remember seeing it as red (focal point) .. you did good nice to see your alternative
1st one your, rejected... 2nd one your, perfect...
The first design I would say that the idea was cool, but execution was poor
The save the dates lines look ugly honestly the og save the date was better than yours 😬
I love how understandable your content is to non graphic designers and still useful and to the point.
Thanks a lot Darsh
There is something that I have noticed during the poster-making module in my school. While the neat posters do communicate more effectively, the hap hazardous posters(with a lot of elements) grab my attention more which actually makes me look at it.
Great changes! But...
The Steeple Clothing went from womenswear to sporty menswear and I think it would’ve been interesting if you had taken that into account.
Nice work with the other designs!
And, completing this comment, I've noticed that Steepel became Steeple.
You designs are all good from a "technical" aspect, but I've noticed a trend with your videos where you "fix" designs by making them more simplistic, generic, and corporate-looking.
The Steeple Clothing logo you made looks like it's the logo of an app that helps you find directions rather than evoking the old-fashioned fancy style the original is going for.
It's especially important when designing logos to take into account the personality the brand is going for, as well as the intended medium the design is to be seen in, instead of recent trends of "cleaner" and "simple" designs. These videos have some decent advice, but they have issues with recommending things that happen to be currently trendy in corporate advertising as if they're the "correct" way to design things rather than just one stylistic choice that's available.
Hey Satori! Great stuff, as always! :D
Still in the first example I think that the original color was better suited,
since it was working well with the photo You've picked, the red was too aggressive,
and there were not enough repetition of it to balance this out.
Everything else You've showed there was great!
You improved those designs significantly,
hope to see more of those redesigns, cheers! :D
Hey, thanks!
1. In sale poster, should not be the sale word in red color to make it more legible?
2. In save the date card. Is it not important to make couple name in bigger font ?
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
@@SatoriGraphics Thanks for reply. Your work make me follow you. I hope I will get more great videos in future.
Hey Satori. Interesting content like always! Somehow, I really think you should re-check the _SALE_ word going on an already lighter background.
Also, have you ever given a thought on doing design tests on *podcast covers* as examples? Would love to know if you have a video idea for this.
Thank you once again.
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
@@SatoriGraphics Glad to know. Keep making us design enthusiasts proud with all your teachings. 🙂✨
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You made a minor error in the 2nd design. Since you made the fictional address in the USA, the date should have been written as 05.25.24, to follow the American dating order. I think the easiest, especially when working internationally, it to have the date written out. I agree though that the original format was confusing. If they really wanted to keep all that information it could have been one line that simply said "Saturday, May 24th, 2024".
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still bothered by you leaving the word "sale" white while it's on a light-colored background
And he changed the color green which is probably the style of the “company”...
Valid points. The red and white order can work both ways, but having 'SALE' as red probably is better. I just didn't consider it when designing in a hurry for the video
I think the logo of Steepel doesn’t scream fashion, but navigation app instead
It could be a sportswear fashion design, which is what I had in mind really.
Fashion poster from visually interesting to what we all have seen before
this last design is so confusing, I mean the original one... what kind of company ID card would require blood type and sex info? what is this xD
Thank you for tackling this kind of wholesale farmed design.
Can you comment on my design??
Hi Francis. Unfortunately no I can't because if I did this for everyone, I would never have any time to do anything else
I hope you're ok
Thanks, I'm doing better this week :)
U r amazing ❤️👍
Thanks for the feedback
Thank you!
No problem Sarah
Love it Satori. My College should look at your videos. Keep the 🔥 going! No pressure though 😉
I appreciate that, thanks
Now I learned something. Like editing video, I should be doing a design first, then look at it critically to find what needs improvement. Only then I can make a new one with improvement.
So helpful!
Glad you think so Ericca
Hey Satori this is my first time watching these Expert vs Amateur type of vids and i really enjoyed thinking critically with you. Keep these coming :)
Welcome aboard! Take a look on my channel homepage - lots more content just like this video
Useful video Tom, and hope you are feeling better. Keep up the good work.
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i think contextually both of the original designs work better
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Design 1) While the layout was an improvement, the red was a step back. The original color was more pleasing to look at, and in better harmony with the other colors, in my opinion. Design 2) Your fonts were a bit too small, compared to the original, which were better suited for the card size. The layout of the original was actually better as well, the only thing needed changing, were the fonts to be one typography, and the word "the" centered. Design 3) You completely got it wrong. From the logo of what looked like a nose, to the misinterpretation of the word as "steeple" The design actually said "steepel" i.e being a made up clothing brand, with nothing to do with steeple. Design 4) Was actually just fine as it is. Not everything needs a change. Your changes actually made it seem more cramped. If you notice, the QR code was the perfect size to match the logo above and align with it, before you changed it. Just some honest objective criticism
These are very helpful for us 😍. Can you please make a vidoe on typographic wordmarks or wordmark logos?♥️
That's a good topic suggestion, thanks
Quite nice over all. But ... that last one, the name tag, if that was for an event then the text would be too small. If it's an office access card it would normally include a photo for security. It feels like you applied print design style while it may have needed something more like signage layout concepts. On the fashion poster, for the word sale I would consider a 10-14% black glow to lift it off the background a bit more, not too small as you don't actually want it to look like a shadow. As I said, it does all really look better, but at the end of the day, it would be up to the customer (that may have some very drastic changes in any case.)
Beware of designing logos in Canva... If you use any of Canva's graphic elements in your logo design, Canva owns the copyright of the logo.
Thank you men for teaching us.
sorry but design 1 was much better untouched. all it needed was some tweaks in typography. according to another video of yours a design has to first attract, intrigue, then convey a message (im not sure of the terms i binged your channel all day so idk which video to go back to). the original also captured the image's fun streetwear personality unlike the final edit which was unfittingly dull and boring
In my opinion you butchered the concept of the art in many cases. I feel there were solutions that would have been more professional approaches that could have maintained the style, if this was in fact about making improvements vs completely redesigning the concept. In my experience, you would have only pissed off the client by invalidating their creative direction.
In the badge, while some of the changes I agree with, you made a huge mistakes that could inflict on the purpose of the media. Reducing that qr code is going to be a costly mistake when they print up the entire companies badges and none of them are scannable, or are at least too difficult for it to make sense.