I think the speakers are wasted room and money. They won't be loud enough to use as monitors in the club and they wont be high enough quality to use for the party. Its just a waste. To me- speakers included screams "hobby build." There is nothing wrong with that , as I think hobbiest are the target market for this product.
In general, NO. It just seems tacky to include little speakers. Space that could've been used to include proper DJing tools. If you can afford decks like these, I'm pretty sure you can afford a decent set of portable speakers, if you really need to "DJ on the go"...
Great video as always. At first, I was really disappointed to see the speakers but they truly do have their place. It opens the door for a little more versatility, to so many other people. Everything else is on point. As I have always wanted a Stand-alone, this just might be my next controller.
The speakers man, they are way better than expected, on par with the speaker that I'm using and.... I haven't yet utilised the volume knob at it's fullest, for the sake of the neighbours. So, yeah - anyone thinking of upgrading their systems, do not think of the speakers ill-like, you can take your device, plug it anywhere and just play without having to worry about connecting anything else.
@@djcarlo interestingly enough, I didn't actually originally plan on getting the SC Live 4, it was the Prime Go I was considering, but having seen the latter in real life and confirming that the jog wheels - the size of them - do not work for me, it was no brainer deciding between this (once I learned about it's existence) and the Prime Go, especially considering that the price is basically the same for both units here in the UK =O
@djcarolos I'm a HUGE fan! I appreciate the solid review, but most of all I appreciate you taking the time to answer your THOUSANDS of fans. Your comments are gold! Most content creators do not take the time to answer or respond. Even your quick responses are great and give incredible insight. I have the Prime 2 and was thinking about the SC 4 for cost. After your responses to the comments below, it's a no-brainer, as a mobile DJ, I'm just going to save up for the Prime 4 or ( fingers crossed ) come out with a Prime 4 +!! Thank you as always and keep up the reviews and especially the mixes. p.s. you and Cleveland Terry need to meet up again, that's one of my favorite vides, you too work well together!! - signed a.k.a DJ Ed Luva
Oh man Ed, I really appreciate the kind words! And believe me, I really wanna link up with Terry again too. And, as a mobile DJ, I 100% agree that you should go for the Prime 4! The SC Live 4 would be most appreciated as a home controller, though it's worked well for me outside too. I just never really get to use the speakers outdoors hahaha
I have the SC Live 4 and I must say I like it. When I DJ I use the Rane One and before I purchased the SC Live 4 I used the Prime Go as my back-up. Now I use the SC Live 4 as my back-up.
@DJ Carlo you've hit the nail on the head with the FX Paddles! They should be used on all mixers IMO... SO much more intuitive to use than the "club standard" layout.
RIGHT?! I'm not a fan of button FX, but I'm kinda glad this one at least has knobs. If they were all buttons, I might've yeeted this out into the yard hahaha
@@djcarlo They should (especially Denon, because of their sway towards innovation) create a more natural flow for FX, for me they are a big part of creative DJing, i owned the X1800 mixer and never really used the Button and dial FX becuase it felt like way too many steps to create what i wanted, especially fast mixing.
Have any Brands come to you with ideas on how to create a mixer? I think with your skills and knowledge with the right brand would produce something amazing.
Get the Prime 4. Konti na lang deperensya. Yun VDJ and Prime 4 and tandem and you can remix sa live performance. All features ng Live covered pa. The prime 4 has bigger screen . Great for video mixing din.
When I’m djiing I’M use NI s4 mk3 plus an F1 .. Plus I’ ve a Prime 4+ but these is perfect also .. I have it and its versatile Enough for Small events or fun . Its a Middle Range .. For Amateours ( not beginners) and Pro dj that don t Wanna waste time to carrie too stuff for small events
Sometimes I have this in the boot, plug and play. Mini after party 🥳 Not going to be the biggest party, but loud enough to maybe just not disturb the neighbors. Also plan to get some good battery, then can go out into the bush. Very portable.
There's a lot of great battery-powered controllers out there now! Highly recommend checking those out too hehe, but this is an excellent one for making a mini-party without needing a full speaker set up
@djcarlo I am even contemplating getting a xlr to 3.5mm output to loop my Harden Kardon Go Play as an extra output (just using what I have already). From what I can read, it can work. And also a 6.5mm from usb-c from my phone. I can make something on the fly using a range of apps (remixlive, g-stomper rhythm for example, before I save up for an MPC), pity the mic input can't be assigned to only one channel though.
Hey, DJ Carlo, I'm a big fan i would love to thank you for the efforts that you made for us. I have an important question. I want to buy a DJ for my work. I'm really lost in the market between Pioneer and Denon. I don't have any clue which one is better for me. I want to buy Pioneer XDJ RX2 or Denon SC Live 4. What is your advice for me?
I have the Live 2 because I just started. Unfortunately I didn't decide for the Live 4 from the beginning even though it was way more expensive when I bought the Live 2, 800 to 1200€ iirc. Especially the missing channels and performance pads are a big disadvantage but in general I love the Live 2. The speakers are really, really good. I went relatively fast from streaming to MP3s because you cannot record easily while streaming and also you cannot sort for BPM, key etc. while streaming. And of course you cannot prepare tracks on a computer, which might be the biggest disadvantage of streaming.
@@djcarlo definitely, still one day I'm going to a four channel controller, with 8 performance pads per deck because I always have the feeling I miss something and could have even more fun
This is has a €1200 price difference in the EU with the prime4. This seems like a no Brainer if you only occasionally play out. It also has been ages since I hooked up some big boy speakers for playing at home.
Dang! The Prime 4 is....really expensive in the EU now??? In any case, that's true Geert! If you really just like playing at home, with pretty decent speakers, then this may be the controller for you
A lot of people complain about it, especially the professionals, but remember, this is geared to another group or niche of DJs such as myself who doesn't have a home studio, I think the built in speakers are good but not good enough for an average party, more like for a small get together with friends, it has all the bells and whistles from that prime 4 except for the vinyl modes, but I don't mind
Yup! The SC Live series is for those who are mixing at home. I'm super sure this is perfect for live streamers and those who just want to have a small home setup. It's not meant to overthrow the Prime, which is what a lot of people seem to think
Great review, Carlo. Do you think standalone units are easier to set up in a club or mobile environment on the fly, or is it minimal difference? I've never tried one but it seems neat. Cheers and God bless brother!
Much easier! Since you literally just need to plug in to their sound system. Other controllers need you to hook up your laptop, stand, etc. Not too much of a difference in time, but still, standalones are quicker on the draw.
Great review and great channel (just found it and subscribed!) I'm a new dj (mostly on beach bars) and I'm between this model and prime Go. I like better metal construction of prime Go and mobility-battery, but I also like better the deck-track info screens of SC Live 4, so I really can't decide, yet, which one of them to buy! 🙂
@@djcarlo Thank you for the reply! Just saw it here! I'm thinking about the same! I think that SC Live 4 is better suited for resident dj's and Prime Go for guest-freelancer dj's that go from place to place (mobility!) 🙂
I've been using mixstream pro heavy for 1yr and I wanted to upgrade to a prime 2 but it's discontinued. The SC Live 4 is a better version of the Prime 2 and it's compatible with Serato. Love it!
@@djcarlo let’s be honest my man! The prime 4 is by far the best standalone unit! The prime engine is my favorite DJ software. I ended up selling my prime 4 to get a Macbookpro M1 for music production. Now that I have the Macbookpro, it just made sense to get the Rane One!!! I am still not sure how reliable these standalone units are. For many years I used all different DJ controllers/mixers with my much older and slower Macbookpro. LOL what I’m getting at is that a solid DJ controller/mixer with serato on ur macbookpro is damn near perfect!!!
@@illpetillxthryve I bought the SC Live 4, and they just gave me a $329 refund because of the price drop. So at $1299 i'm SOOOO glad I bought this over the Prime 4. The SC Live 4 is just better for mobile DJing, which is what I do.
Amazing piece of kit. £1200 or around in the UK, it has a more familiar mixer set up which is one of the thing that put me off Denon, real 4 deck capability, for a fraction of the price of the Pioneer gear. 👍
If Denon Releases a refreshed Prime 4 then I probably would move in that direction but the SC 4 seems like a great unit. One thing that I do not care for is the AUX and Mic 2 share. Wish they were separate.
DJ from another planet😳😍. Two questions, the Sc2 live only has 4 pads, do you think there's a limit? Is there an order to follow your lessons? There are many videos but I need an order, last one.... sorry there are three😂 is there a way to have them in other languages? thanks giant
1) If you only really use 4 pads, you should be good! 2) Well, it's best to start with my How To DJ for Beginners video. But the top option would be to purchase my Zero to Hero DJ course on my Sellfy! 3) For now....no. I only really speak 2 languages (English and Tagalog), so I can't really dub the videos in different languages yet.
I appreciate how you explained every main and subtle things about the new product. But I’m curious, what is your opinion on switching from ddj-400 to the sc live 4? Is it worth it?
That's a massive jump man! Very VERY different controllers. I'd say it's pretty worth it, though you'll need to change programs too if ever, since the SC Live 4 doesn't run Rekordbox
@@djcarlothe question above , made me think, would you say the sc live 4 is good enough and worth buying, purely for home mixing and primarily using the built in speakers? I know they won’t sound incredible, but can I get a decent sound and have enough fun mixing this way, in my bedroom and living room? Also, I don’t have amazon music yet, for few reasons, I plan to mainly use the sc live 4 using a usb loaded with my mp3 collection, for now. Will sc live 4 read 128gb usb stick with mp3? And read all songs? I was thinking about buying prime 4 plus but as that costs twice the sc live 4, part of me thinks it’s possible, I’d still have just as much fun on sc live 4 and save £1000 and maybe in future, I could upgrade, if sc live 4 isn’t fulfilling my needs. Plus, the reason for buying a controller of some sort, was simply because I’ve mixed purely on vinyl for 10 plus years and while I love it and always will, I love the idea of mixing with digital for convenience of not only not having to dig through thousands of records, you can find any song within seconds, using any digital way of dj’ing. Thank you 🙏
Hi Dj Carlo I work whit a pioneer SR2 whit serato Dj Pro and thinking of moving to another controller . Do you really think this is a great controller to do weddings and other gigs ? Best regards from 🇵🇹
Denon should make a 4 channel Serato controller with large jog wheels like the SC6000. I don’t know why they’re sticking with standalone, people still like Serato and they have no controller competing against Pioneer (1000srt) & Rane (rane one)
Oof, I didn't bring the SC Live 4 when I migrated unfortunately. I wouldn't really recommend it for scratching, but the same techniques from my previous videos apply! 😄
unit looks good, USB not easily accessible.Why i love usb sticks? easy to handle and i dont need big hdd. This is something I have noticed is typical of Denon. Big big turn down. what a shame because i want to try other brands than just pioneer.
Will you have a look at the SC live 2? I'm curious about if the speakers are any different. I have ordered the Live 2, because i dont use 4 decks or external inputs... cant justify 300 dollars extra for the Jog Screens xD
😮What is true different between srt and the normal one for ddj1000? Is it just the software different? If that is so, which software is better or more recommended? Or should it just save a little and get a prime 4? Thank you so much!!
I got confused at first; I thought you were talking about the SC Live 4! The only difference between those 2 is the software. The SRT is compatible with Serato, and the regular one is only for Rekordbox. I'd recommend the Prime 4 actually
DJ Carlo could you recommend a laptop to match your prisoner DJ mixer ??? Please Christian here I want to start learning DJ but idk what type of laptop I need to make my pioneer DDJ sr2 work 🤔
I grabbed mine a few weeks back and thought the speakers were dumb, and after playing with it for a bit, the speakers dont bother me at all. Also I can power the controller with an omni charge power bank making it a true portable controller!
i have a Prime GO n lovin it alot..i brought it with me when i was travelling to Phuket, Thailand few months ago..hooked it to my Marshall Kilburn II… battery powered party!!..🤓🫶🏻🙌🏻 But this SC…..WOW!!!!………😨😳😲😦😯🥰🥰🥰
Do you think it's suitable for the mobile dj doing weddings, bar gigs every weekend? Is it sturdy enough. My pioneer ddjsr was perfect for it. But unfortunately I need to upgrade due to age. Is this suitable?
I would recommend going for the Denon Prime 4 if you're gonna use the controller for weddings and gigs. The SC Live 4 is better for the home set up Eoin
@@franciscobrady77 It is good enough. It's just that the prime 4 is more features, like, dedicated 2 microphone channels. It has a zone out which means you can hook up a speaker and play music in another room, while playing music in the main room. So that is the difference. But you can use any controller you want, it's just a matter of the different options each controller has.
I would have to say i think it’s priced fairly. It’s got a lot of features and speakers whoa! And i love Amazon Music i use it more than any streaming service. I actually like this could see it coming in handy especially for weddings.
But the whole point of the prime go was to be more portable that is why its a smaller controller and also has battery so you can play anywhere you want to and this new sc live is heavier.and big
There aren't too many controllers in the standalone game that I've really liked, and I loved the Prime Go Justino. My review, so I couldn't help but think about that one while playing around with the SC Live 4.
I am thinking to get a DJ controller this black Friday, but I couldn't make a decision between ddj 800, ddj 1000, SC live 4. 😭Which one should I get or is there a better decision!?
The 1000 would be the best overall, but if you're looking for a controller that can function on its own, the SC Live 4 is your bet. The 800 would be perfect if you're a Rekordbox user
So basically a Prime 4 with speakers. I find these new speaker additions could only be advantagious to certain scenarios or a smaller drows but like you explained but I'm sure it will appeal to some but not all. I've had a Prime 4 for over 3 years and not too long ago was looking to change up. Then Denon came out with this and honestly its not for me as I already have speakers in my setup. So as for an upgrade, well it was rude no to go for the SC6000/X1850 setup. Which I am currently waiting on, and yes the UK has plenty in stock it's just the couriers are getting slower. Thanks for the honest review
For sure bud! But no, it's not a Prime 4 with speakers; nothing comes close to that one haha. It's really aimed at a different market and, while pretty good, it's really not the same haha. You really should go for the LC!
Thank you Carlo. One more question please. As a beginner on which device it is better to learn mixing, on a standalone or with laptop? I have not decided which to buy. I want to go for such a device, on which I will learn, practice and carry it to mid-size parties
Definitely a standalone. It takes away the temptation of looking at the screen for the waveforms, so you double down on learning to beatmatch and mix by ear
So you keep saying that it's only for home use. Why is that? Let's just forget the speakers, why wouldn't it be suited for geeks etc? The functions are nearly the same as prime 4. Pls explain 😉
Because it's the same as the Prime 4 essentially, but with speakers! That really supports my home use view on this one. I believe it's for the livestreaming market, hence the LIVE as well in the name! The speakers are also great, but they won't fill up a venue the right way
This is a very generous specs list, but instead off all the good things I do hated the Denon Prime Go. ☹ Dj-ing with Denon just doesn't feel as good (and reliable) as Pioneer gear to me.
Because having speakers in your console is useless when you're surrounded by loud music. The prime 4 has the same functions, and a few more because the space taken up by the speakers are used for other things. 😄
@@djcarlo Hmm - I guess so. It's nice that it has Amazon music at least. The more platforms the better. I'm not hating at all - it just seems awfully similar. I thought that it would be cheaper at least you know?
I have tried to connect with Djay Pro 2 from my Mac, it recognises the Device and I can play music but the controls don't work, am I doing something wrong?
I like the speakers idea. But until Denon make streaming tracks able to go online mode like Rekordbox desktop has then I will stick to that and my ddj 1000 Also don't like the skinny knobs on eq Screen is too small on SC
Not a bad move by Denon really. The economic outlook across the world isn't stellar right now, people might be bargain hunting in the future. I would say its mostly aimed at hobby DJs, I imagine more serious DJs will bump up to the Prime series. Would have rather seen a Prime player with Stems, maybe a SC7000
Glad your favorite is the prime go as well because you’ll understand me. I’ve been using the prime go for two years now and I love it. But the sc live is the only controller I’ve been eyeing to potentially buy to do mashups reels with the 4 channels Btw I really liked the mono button on the prime go do you know if the sc4 has a digital mono option?
@@djcarlo ok without speakers then? Standalone as is no laptop, I hate computer. I wanna get good again etc but my motivation be to start playing out, from what I’ve read the live 4 not good enough 🥺. I would think be ok to take and play on in places (with other speakers) but just I wont every be to jump on a club set up and use it. Looks amazing ! Power up, connect Wi-Fi… boom 🤯
Ooof, I'll need to check on that. It's possible that the program just can't properly detect the beat grid for those particular songs, but honestly not sure how to fix that without really looking at it. Sorry!
Why do I feel like rekordbox dj software is left out of many dj gear! It's unfortunate that it's dying slowly and no innovation while it's one of the best dj software so far. I enjoy preparing music from rekordbox it's very smooth and easy to organize the song. I prepare better in rekordbox than serato. And the performance of the software is high quality compared to serato especially the sound in my experience. And the layout is more matured and smooth. But this Denon dj looks great but not innovative enough and feel like they are stuck in catching up with what already perform better on the other side.
Might have something to do with Rekordbox being a Pioneer product. I feel like the guys at Pioneer really want to keep Rekordbox mostly for themselves hahaha
@@djcarlo Just hopping for them to be more open... I was waiting for the BPM supreme inclusion inside rekordbox and find it very good.. Hope they push it forward. The more dj gear has it the more people will understand the quality of rekordbox and its a win...
There's a few improvements on the SC Live 4 since it's newer, but I'll try to do an in depth comparison of my own before I give out any real answers Abdel
I'd say it works pretty well, but I'd prefer using computer based programs for tighter mixing. Standalones work best for straight mixing, unless you've got the tracks really prepped. Hope I understood your question right Garret!
carlo i need ur help, i want buy this denon dj controller but when i use this effects is that internal from serato only ? or can i use the effects in the mixer..pls :D
@@djcarlo a very rare manufacturing issue. The platters weren’t calibrating correctly so vinyl mode would confuse the computer leading to all kinds of glitches. Apparently the prime2 uses a different type of sensor to pioneers. I wish more standalone units had a proper mixer to send other inputs through fx and eq. Very happy now with my Reloop ready and laptop setup going into my Mpc and vinyl setup if I want.
Not totally Andrea! Simply because I feel like the have different markets as a whole. The Prime series works better in clubs/bars, while the SC Live are for those who wanna work it in the live streaming or home set up market
I actually haven't tried that out. There's no dedicated button for program FX, so im assuming not. The built in ones honestly take the cake already for me
They actually dropped the price almost immediately after release. It's now retailing at $1,299. Apparently, a lot of people had the same sentiments as you did
*Update* The SC Live 4 price is $1,299!!!
Question of the day:
Should DJ Gear have SPEAKERS!?
if we listen the sample of the next song with speakers instead of headphone... that will be a little wobble 😅
just no
I think the speakers are wasted room and money. They won't be loud enough to use as monitors in the club and they wont be high enough quality to use for the party. Its just a waste. To me- speakers included screams "hobby build." There is nothing wrong with that , as I think hobbiest are the target market for this product.
In general, NO. It just seems tacky to include little speakers. Space that could've been used to include proper DJing tools. If you can afford decks like these, I'm pretty sure you can afford a decent set of portable speakers, if you really need to "DJ on the go"...
Not pro gear. Budget gear then yes.
Great video as always. At first, I was really disappointed to see the speakers but they truly do have their place. It opens the door for a little more versatility, to so many other people. Everything else is on point. As I have always wanted a Stand-alone, this just might be my next controller.
Not gonna lie Aaron, the speakers on this one made recording the mix so much easier! I didn't need to plug it into anything
@@djcarlo that’s awesome.
What you mean easier? Lol. To get the best serato recordings ya just gota watch the channel & master & ull end up with a loud and clear mix!!!
@@djcarlo It is surely great for having even less excuse for not practicing on the controller in a hotel room, or even at home.
I am for it.
The speakers man, they are way better than expected, on par with the speaker that I'm using and.... I haven't yet utilised the volume knob at it's fullest, for the sake of the neighbours. So, yeah - anyone thinking of upgrading their systems, do not think of the speakers ill-like, you can take your device, plug it anywhere and just play without having to worry about connecting anything else.
Honestly, I've grown to appreciate them! Having those speakers gets handy at times!
@@djcarlo interestingly enough, I didn't actually originally plan on getting the SC Live 4, it was the Prime Go I was considering, but having seen the latter in real life and confirming that the jog wheels - the size of them - do not work for me, it was no brainer deciding between this (once I learned about it's existence) and the Prime Go, especially considering that the price is basically the same for both units here in the UK =O
@djcarolos I'm a HUGE fan! I appreciate the solid review, but most of all I appreciate you taking the time to answer your THOUSANDS of fans. Your comments are gold! Most content creators do not take the time to answer or respond. Even your quick responses are great and give incredible insight. I have the Prime 2 and was thinking about the SC 4 for cost. After your responses to the comments below, it's a no-brainer, as a mobile DJ, I'm just going to save up for the Prime 4 or ( fingers crossed ) come out with a Prime 4 +!! Thank you as always and keep up the reviews and especially the mixes. p.s. you and Cleveland Terry need to meet up again, that's one of my favorite vides, you too work well together!! - signed a.k.a DJ Ed Luva
Oh man Ed, I really appreciate the kind words! And believe me, I really wanna link up with Terry again too. And, as a mobile DJ, I 100% agree that you should go for the Prime 4! The SC Live 4 would be most appreciated as a home controller, though it's worked well for me outside too. I just never really get to use the speakers outdoors hahaha
I have the SC Live 4 and I must say I like it. When I DJ I use the Rane One and before I purchased the SC Live 4 I used the Prime Go as my back-up. Now I use the SC Live 4 as my back-up.
That's great Darold! I feel like that s the right use for both of them!
@DJ Carlo you've hit the nail on the head with the FX Paddles! They should be used on all mixers IMO... SO much more intuitive to use than the "club standard" layout.
RIGHT?! I'm not a fan of button FX, but I'm kinda glad this one at least has knobs. If they were all buttons, I might've yeeted this out into the yard hahaha
@@djcarlo They should (especially Denon, because of their sway towards innovation) create a more natural flow for FX, for me they are a big part of creative DJing, i owned the X1800 mixer and never really used the Button and dial FX becuase it felt like way too many steps to create what i wanted, especially fast mixing.
@@djcarlo Wash out was fun, rolls, reverse rolls and reverse roll turning the deck off while in roll to a slow stop or putting it back on was cool. :)
Have any Brands come to you with ideas on how to create a mixer? I think with your skills and knowledge with the right brand would produce something amazing.
Get the Prime 4. Konti na lang deperensya. Yun VDJ and Prime 4 and tandem and you can remix sa live performance. All features ng Live covered pa. The prime 4 has bigger screen . Great for video mixing din.
It's better for clubs and events! This is really more of a home-based controller
When I’m djiing I’M use NI s4 mk3 plus an F1 .. Plus I’ ve a Prime 4+ but these is perfect also .. I have it and its versatile Enough for Small events or fun . Its a Middle Range .. For Amateours ( not beginners) and Pro dj that don t Wanna waste time to carrie too stuff for small events
That's a pretty good set up there! And it's true; having standalones saves on so much time and space haha
Sometimes I have this in the boot, plug and play. Mini after party 🥳
Not going to be the biggest party, but loud enough to maybe just not disturb the neighbors.
Also plan to get some good battery, then can go out into the bush. Very portable.
There's a lot of great battery-powered controllers out there now! Highly recommend checking those out too hehe, but this is an excellent one for making a mini-party without needing a full speaker set up
@djcarlo I am even contemplating getting a xlr to 3.5mm output to loop my Harden Kardon Go Play as an extra output (just using what I have already). From what I can read, it can work. And also a 6.5mm from usb-c from my phone. I can make something on the fly using a range of apps (remixlive, g-stomper rhythm for example, before I save up for an MPC), pity the mic input can't be assigned to only one channel though.
Hey, DJ Carlo, I'm a big fan i would love to thank you for the efforts that you made for us. I have an important question. I want to buy a DJ for my work. I'm really lost in the market between Pioneer and Denon. I don't have any clue which one is better for me. I want to buy Pioneer XDJ RX2 or Denon SC Live 4. What is your advice for me?
If you're going to be playing in clubs, I'd say the Pioneer one is better. At home, the SC Live 4 will do the trick
I have the Live 2 because I just started. Unfortunately I didn't decide for the Live 4 from the beginning even though it was way more expensive when I bought the Live 2, 800 to 1200€ iirc. Especially the missing channels and performance pads are a big disadvantage but in general I love the Live 2. The speakers are really, really good. I went relatively fast from streaming to MP3s because you cannot record easily while streaming and also you cannot sort for BPM, key etc. while streaming. And of course you cannot prepare tracks on a computer, which might be the biggest disadvantage of streaming.
If you're enjoying the SC Live 2, then that means you found a good controller for you! :D
@@djcarlo definitely, still one day I'm going to a four channel controller, with 8 performance pads per deck because I always have the feeling I miss something and could have even more fun
This is has a €1200 price difference in the EU with the prime4. This seems like a no Brainer if you only occasionally play out. It also has been ages since I hooked up some big boy speakers for playing at home.
Dang! The Prime 4 is....really expensive in the EU now??? In any case, that's true Geert! If you really just like playing at home, with pretty decent speakers, then this may be the controller for you
A lot of people complain about it, especially the professionals, but remember, this is geared to another group or niche of DJs such as myself who doesn't have a home studio, I think the built in speakers are good but not good enough for an average party, more like for a small get together with friends, it has all the bells and whistles from that prime 4 except for the vinyl modes, but I don't mind
Yup! The SC Live series is for those who are mixing at home. I'm super sure this is perfect for live streamers and those who just want to have a small home setup. It's not meant to overthrow the Prime, which is what a lot of people seem to think
So does this mean if I buy this live 4 I can’t plug in my turntables?
@@grahamkelly8662 you can't unfortunately, but with the older but more expensive Prime 4, you get some Phono ins for turntables in channels 3 and 4
Great review, Carlo. Do you think standalone units are easier to set up in a club or mobile environment on the fly, or is it minimal difference? I've never tried one but it seems neat. Cheers and God bless brother!
Much easier! Since you literally just need to plug in to their sound system. Other controllers need you to hook up your laptop, stand, etc. Not too much of a difference in time, but still, standalones are quicker on the draw.
Now the real question is: DENON SC LIVE 4 or PIONEER XDJ-RR??? (based on the same price)
Great question! Gotta do some in depth tinkering with the two, so let's see if I come up with a video on that in the future.
Great review and great channel (just found it and subscribed!) I'm a new dj (mostly on beach bars) and I'm between this model and prime Go. I like better metal construction of prime Go and mobility-battery, but I also like better the deck-track info screens of SC Live 4, so I really can't decide, yet, which one of them to buy! 🙂
If you bring the controller everywhere, the Prime Go might be better. I feel like the SC Live 4 is better suited for streaming
@@djcarlo Thank you for the reply! Just saw it here! I'm thinking about the same! I think that SC Live 4 is better suited for resident dj's and Prime Go for guest-freelancer dj's that go from place to place (mobility!) 🙂
I've been using mixstream pro heavy for 1yr and I wanted to upgrade to a prime 2 but it's discontinued. The SC Live 4 is a better version of the Prime 2 and it's compatible with Serato. Love it!
Looks like your prayers were answered here SiR!
@@djcarlo let’s be honest my man! The prime 4 is by far the best standalone unit! The prime engine is my favorite DJ software. I ended up selling my prime 4 to get a Macbookpro M1 for music production. Now that I have the Macbookpro, it just made sense to get the Rane One!!! I am still not sure how reliable these standalone units are. For many years I used all different DJ controllers/mixers with my much older and slower Macbookpro. LOL what I’m getting at is that a solid DJ controller/mixer with serato on ur macbookpro is damn near perfect!!!
@@illpetillxthryve I bought the SC Live 4, and they just gave me a $329 refund because of the price drop. So at $1299 i'm SOOOO glad I bought this over the Prime 4. The SC Live 4 is just better for mobile DJing, which is what I do.
I bought a demo SC live from Sweetwater which was a demo for 799 I actually love it
Great vid as always. Def looks and sounds dope. This gets me really curious on what the new Rane will look like and do.
Same here Richie! That's exciting!
Carlo….how does it compare to the DENON Prime 4??? Maybe do a head to head comparison on your next video? 🎥
Might be a bit too similar there hahaha, but thanks for the idea Orlando! I'll try to explore it
Amazing piece of kit. £1200 or around in the UK, it has a more familiar mixer set up which is one of the thing that put me off Denon, real 4 deck capability, for a fraction of the price of the Pioneer gear. 👍
Bingo! Denon really stepped up their game and price point!
If Denon Releases a refreshed Prime 4 then I probably would move in that direction but the SC 4 seems like a great unit. One thing that I do not care for is the AUX and Mic 2 share. Wish they were separate.
I see where you're coming from there! I guess they could only integrate *so* many ports into it haha. The Prime 4 is still a golden controller though!
DJ from another planet😳😍.
Two questions, the Sc2 live only has 4 pads, do you think there's a limit?
Is there an order to follow your lessons? There are many videos but I need an order, last one.... sorry there are three😂 is there a way to have them in other languages? thanks giant
1) If you only really use 4 pads, you should be good!
2) Well, it's best to start with my How To DJ for Beginners video. But the top option would be to purchase my Zero to Hero DJ course on my Sellfy!
3) For now....no. I only really speak 2 languages (English and Tagalog), so I can't really dub the videos in different languages yet.
I appreciate how you explained every main and subtle things about the new product. But I’m curious, what is your opinion on switching from ddj-400 to the sc live 4? Is it worth it?
That's a massive jump man! Very VERY different controllers. I'd say it's pretty worth it, though you'll need to change programs too if ever, since the SC Live 4 doesn't run Rekordbox
@@djcarlo it’s a bummer but atleast I can upgrade it for free :D
You can use rekordbox export and use an usb you will save your hotcuez etc
@@djcarlothe question above , made me think, would you say the sc live 4 is good enough and worth buying, purely for home mixing and primarily using the built in speakers? I know they won’t sound incredible, but can I get a decent sound and have enough fun mixing this way, in my bedroom and living room?
Also, I don’t have amazon music yet, for few reasons,
I plan to mainly use the sc live 4 using a usb loaded with my mp3 collection, for now.
Will sc live 4 read 128gb usb stick with mp3?
And read all songs?
I was thinking about buying prime 4 plus but as that costs twice the sc live 4, part of me thinks it’s possible, I’d still have just as much fun on sc live 4 and save £1000 and maybe in future, I could upgrade, if sc live 4 isn’t fulfilling my needs.
Plus, the reason for buying a controller of some sort, was simply because I’ve mixed purely on vinyl for 10 plus years and while I love it and always will,
I love the idea of mixing with digital for convenience of not only not having to dig through thousands of records, you can find any song within seconds, using any digital way of dj’ing.
Thank you 🙏
Hi Dj Carlo
I work whit a pioneer SR2 whit serato Dj Pro and thinking of moving to another controller .
Do you really think this is a great controller to do weddings and other gigs ?
Best regards from 🇵🇹
Tbh, it is! Though I would recommend checking out the Prime 4 too for outside use!
@@djcarlo Thanks for the reply.What about moving to DDJ 1000 instead od a standalone? Best regards
Denon should make a 4 channel Serato controller with large jog wheels like the SC6000. I don’t know why they’re sticking with standalone, people still like Serato and they have no controller competing against Pioneer (1000srt) & Rane (rane one)
Let's see what they've got coming up next Jonathan! I guess they're focusing on a certain market for now
Hi Carlo, can You make a video tuto teaching us tips of scratching with The SC Live 4..😅
Oof, I didn't bring the SC Live 4 when I migrated unfortunately. I wouldn't really recommend it for scratching, but the same techniques from my previous videos apply! 😄
Denon definitely is tryin to compete with the XDJ-XZ & the XDJ-RX3 who knows what pioneer dj will come up with next
Indeed! With the addition of trying to capture the Mixstream Pro's market too. Let's see how this plays out from the others!
unit looks good, USB not easily accessible.Why i love usb sticks? easy to handle and i dont need big hdd. This is something I have noticed is typical of Denon. Big big turn down. what a shame because i want to try other brands than just pioneer.
I guess they wanted to keep the outer design cleaner? That's on them though
Thanks for your informative video :) . Quick question . Can you use it in combination with Serato and laptop or it only works without laptop ?
You can use it with Serato Koosha! One of the major selling points of Engine Prime nowadays is that you can use it with a laptop :)
Will you have a look at the SC live 2? I'm curious about if the speakers are any different. I have ordered the Live 2, because i dont use 4 decks or external inputs... cant justify 300 dollars extra for the Jog Screens xD
I will see about that one! I don't think I'm gonna be able to get an SC Live 2, but I believe the speakers are the same!
4 faders can always save your life, imagine one in sc2 to have a problem during work!
😮What is true different between srt and the normal one for ddj1000? Is it just the software different? If that is so, which software is better or more recommended? Or should it just save a little and get a prime 4? Thank you so much!!
I got confused at first; I thought you were talking about the SC Live 4! The only difference between those 2 is the software. The SRT is compatible with Serato, and the regular one is only for Rekordbox. I'd recommend the Prime 4 actually
DJ Carlo could you recommend a laptop to match your prisoner DJ mixer ??? Please Christian here I want to start learning DJ but idk what type of laptop I need to make my pioneer DDJ sr2 work 🤔
I'd say just go for a Macbook Air. Best to check the hardware specifications of Serato and whatnot to see which one to get :)
I grabbed mine a few weeks back and thought the speakers were dumb, and after playing with it for a bit, the speakers dont bother me at all. Also I can power the controller with an omni charge power bank making it a true portable controller!
Not gonna lie, the speakers do sound pretty decent haha
Nice work! Thanks for including me in the video at 1:34. 🇵🇭
YOOOOOOO, can't believe you found the video haha. And for sure bud! It's the *official* video, and big congratulations on being center stage for it!
i have a Prime GO n lovin it alot..i brought it with me when i was travelling to Phuket, Thailand few months ago..hooked it to my Marshall Kilburn II… battery powered party!!..🤓🫶🏻🙌🏻
But this SC…..WOW!!!!………😨😳😲😦😯🥰🥰🥰
Yeah, this one isn't as portable. Looooved the Prime Go, so I couldn't wait to see what else Denon had to offer!
Hey dj carlo, will you make a video about the new flx4? Is it hard to find one these days? I'm down getting one since I didn't buy the ddj400
When it arrives in The Philippines!
Do you think it's suitable for the mobile dj doing weddings, bar gigs every weekend? Is it sturdy enough. My pioneer ddjsr was perfect for it. But unfortunately I need to upgrade due to age. Is this suitable?
I would recommend going for the Denon Prime 4 if you're gonna use the controller for weddings and gigs. The SC Live 4 is better for the home set up Eoin
@@djcarlo Is it not good enough the live 4 for weddings and gigs?
@@franciscobrady77 It is good enough. It's just that the prime 4 is more features, like, dedicated 2 microphone channels. It has a zone out which means you can hook up a speaker and play music in another room, while playing music in the main room. So that is the difference. But you can use any controller you want, it's just a matter of the different options each controller has.
Thanks. "The SC Live 4 shines thru its mixer section". Is it me or is the mixer section pulled right from the X1850?
Not quite the same, but very very close! Definitely took some inspiration from it
I would have to say i think it’s priced fairly. It’s got a lot of features and speakers whoa! And i love Amazon Music i use it more than any streaming service. I actually like this could see it coming in handy especially for weddings.
Very handy! The wifi capabilities help quite a lot Tecniq!
Last week I turned it on and forgot to hook up my USB to my computer and it actually linked up to my music files wirelessly which is phenomenal
How much is this
But the whole point of the prime go was to be more portable that is why its a smaller controller and also has battery so you can play anywhere you want to and this new sc live is heavier.and big
There aren't too many controllers in the standalone game that I've really liked, and I loved the Prime Go Justino. My review, so I couldn't help but think about that one while playing around with the SC Live 4.
I am thinking to get a DJ controller this black Friday, but I couldn't make a decision between ddj 800, ddj 1000, SC live 4. 😭Which one should I get or is there a better decision!?
The 1000 would be the best overall, but if you're looking for a controller that can function on its own, the SC Live 4 is your bet. The 800 would be perfect if you're a Rekordbox user
@@djcarloOkay okay, If I am a beginner which one is the best because I am still a beginner, so I am thinking about which one I should buy😭
@@djcarlo In your opinion, which one is better, the srt version or another? Thank you so much!!
So basically a Prime 4 with speakers. I find these new speaker additions could only be advantagious to certain scenarios or a smaller drows but like you explained but I'm sure it will appeal to some but not all. I've had a Prime 4 for over 3 years and not too long ago was looking to change up. Then Denon came out with this and honestly its not for me as I already have speakers in my setup. So as for an upgrade, well it was rude no to go for the SC6000/X1850 setup. Which I am currently waiting on, and yes the UK has plenty in stock it's just the couriers are getting slower. Thanks for the honest review
For sure bud! But no, it's not a Prime 4 with speakers; nothing comes close to that one haha. It's really aimed at a different market and, while pretty good, it's really not the same haha. You really should go for the LC!
I like the simplicity clean look of it. It reminds me of the new Traktor S4
It kind of does! Tbh, it's a great controller overall!
@@djcarlo Just bought one 😄
I don't know, but I think those speakers are like to fill space.🔉🔉
I think they're really just to compete with the Mixstream Pro's market
Im using Djay Pro app...so what you think would be best standalone controller?
Hmmmm, im not sure as I've never tried using Djay with standalones. The software wasn't really designed for standalones from what I recall
Its a year later, is the crossfader still working?? I know its not user replaceable and that is 1 of my deciding factors here.
Yup! It's still going pretty strong on my end!
What are it’s main advantages over Numark Mixstream pro, other than having 4 Channels?
More performance pads, larger jogwheels if I recall correctly, more FX, and a few more hardware based features the Mixstream doesn't have
Thank you Carlo. One more question please. As a beginner on which device it is better to learn mixing, on a standalone or with laptop? I have not decided which to buy. I want to go for such a device, on which I will learn, practice and carry it to mid-size parties
Definitely a standalone. It takes away the temptation of looking at the screen for the waveforms, so you double down on learning to beatmatch and mix by ear
Do not buy Numark,its inferior to sc series. Very bad quality and faulty .
I might go for a regular controller, or a standalone
So you keep saying that it's only for home use. Why is that? Let's just forget the speakers, why wouldn't it be suited for geeks etc? The functions are nearly the same as prime 4. Pls explain 😉
Because it's the same as the Prime 4 essentially, but with speakers! That really supports my home use view on this one. I believe it's for the livestreaming market, hence the LIVE as well in the name! The speakers are also great, but they won't fill up a venue the right way
I need a controller so badly to achieve my goals,cant wait till i get my first one,will be a wonderful day!
Keep that dream alive Leighton! They just dropped it, so there should still be plenty to go around!
That is a nice looking bit of kit!
Very nice Adam! Pretty great standalone!
This is a very generous specs list, but instead off all the good things I do hated the Denon Prime Go. ☹
Dj-ing with Denon just doesn't feel as good (and reliable) as Pioneer gear to me.
That's fair! Chalk it up to preferences Zoltan!
Why so you say sc 4 is for home use and prime 4 more for weddings and gigs? What are the biggest differences that make you say that?
Because having speakers in your console is useless when you're surrounded by loud music. The prime 4 has the same functions, and a few more because the space taken up by the speakers are used for other things. 😄
@@djcarlo I see. Thanks for your reply
Hi Carlos? Q: just connected an external speaker via main out RCA, now big lag between built in speakers and external speaker. Any idea how to fix? 🙏
That's strange! You may need to get better RCAs. Thats been an issue with me before
@@djcarlo will give that a go! Thanks!
How loud the speakers? Good enough to use at home or small party like down the beach?
Good enough for the house for sure, but not sure about the beach. Haven't tried this puppy out yet in the open
as long as you dont need a laptop and fully access control to all decks, this unit are good enough in my opinion
Which you don't! It's got wifi built-in, so you can really pull songs from the cloud!
I really dont understand why you can easily switch on the fly from serato to Standalone and control decks. My MCX8000 from 2016 can do that.
I'm confused. How is this better or for that matter, any different to the Prime 4? I don't get why it exists?
I believe this is aiming for a slightly different market Anther. Plus they added some bells and whistles that weren't native to the Prime 4
@@djcarlo Hmm - I guess so. It's nice that it has Amazon music at least. The more platforms the better. I'm not hating at all - it just seems awfully similar. I thought that it would be cheaper at least you know?
So when you connect to the external speakers, built in speakers automatically mute?
You can turn them on and off via a different switch
I am using a Hercules 500 and I want to upgrade should I upgrade to the sc live 4?
That's actually a pretty good upgrade!
i want to upgrade my Hercules inpulse 500 my budget is 1.2k-1.5k what should i buy ?.
Check my Best DJ Gear video! Should have a good spectrum of choices for you
@@djcarlo ok danke🫶🏻
in Mojaxx's review on DJcityTV, he mentioned all the limitations of the Streaming services. How come that NONE of them are in here?
Sorry about that! Guess I’ll be more critical about that feature in the future!
As soon as a deck comes out with Apple Music integration it will clean up
Maybe that's the next step!
Unfortunately Spotify stopped third part integrations, otherwise it would have been part of it as well.
@@Shrimp0kUgel yes..so bad 😞 Spotify is the best!
I have tried to connect with Djay Pro 2 from my Mac, it recognises the Device and I can play music but the controls don't work, am I doing something wrong?
Hmmm, the SC Live 4 isn't supposed to be compatible with Djay Pro as far as I know; just Serato and VDJ
I like the speakers idea. But until Denon make streaming tracks able to go online mode like Rekordbox desktop has then I will stick to that and my ddj 1000
Also don't like the skinny knobs on eq
Screen is too small on SC
The screen isn't bad, but there are bigger options out there indeed
Perfect for starting and learning ….😍
Super! It's an all in one standalone with speakers. A great investment overall!
What do you think of the amazing Prime 4 bro 😎
It's pretty amazing!
Not a bad move by Denon really. The economic outlook across the world isn't stellar right now, people might be bargain hunting in the future. I would say its mostly aimed at hobby DJs, I imagine more serious DJs will bump up to the Prime series. Would have rather seen a Prime player with Stems, maybe a SC7000
Maybe that's their next step Kenneth? Let's see what the future brings our way here!
Glad your favorite is the prime go as well because you’ll understand me. I’ve been using the prime go for two years now and I love it.
But the sc live is the only controller I’ve been eyeing to potentially buy to do mashups reels with the 4 channels
Btw I really liked the mono button on the prime go do you know if the sc4 has a digital mono option?
Oh, I didn't notice! It might be hidden in the settings, but it's something I didn't really look out for.
@@djcarlo if you get a chance to mess around looking for it please update me!
What the pioneer equivalent? Wanna switch from vinyl but don’t want to get a laptop
Hmmm, I don't think Pioneer has one Anglo! There are standalone ones, but none with speakers.
@@djcarlo ok without speakers then?
Standalone as is no laptop, I hate computer.
I wanna get good again etc but my motivation be to start playing out, from what I’ve read the live 4 not good enough 🥺.
I would think be ok to take and play on in places (with other speakers) but just I wont every be to jump on a club set up and use it.
Looks amazing ! Power up, connect Wi-Fi… boom 🤯
I think I buy mine next week 👏🏼👏🏼
Awesome! Can't wait for yours to arrive Selfking!
HELLO DJ CARLO I CHECKED THE BOX IN MY SERATO TO ACTIVATE BEAT GRID BUT ON SOME SONGS ITS NOT SHOWING THE BEAT GRID WHY IS THAT AND HOW DO I FIX IT
Ooof, I'll need to check on that. It's possible that the program just can't properly detect the beat grid for those particular songs, but honestly not sure how to fix that without really looking at it. Sorry!
Why do I feel like rekordbox dj software is left out of many dj gear! It's unfortunate that it's dying slowly and no innovation while it's one of the best dj software so far. I enjoy preparing music from rekordbox it's very smooth and easy to organize the song. I prepare better in rekordbox than serato. And the performance of the software is high quality compared to serato especially the sound in my experience. And the layout is more matured and smooth. But this Denon dj looks great but not innovative enough and feel like they are stuck in catching up with what already perform better on the other side.
Might have something to do with Rekordbox being a Pioneer product. I feel like the guys at Pioneer really want to keep Rekordbox mostly for themselves hahaha
@@djcarlo Just hopping for them to be more open... I was waiting for the BPM supreme inclusion inside rekordbox and find it very good.. Hope they push it forward. The more dj gear has it the more people will understand the quality of rekordbox and its a win...
Can I use 2 of those channels for my vinyl turntables?
Not on this one! Other controllers have that feature though
Can I connect Bluetooth speaker to Denon sc live 4? If yes, is it possible to use built in speakers on Denon and 1 small Bluetooth speaker?
Yes, but there will be latency. I think only the AlphaTheta Wave Eight will be able to properly work
@@djcarlo thank you 🙏
do you think the prime 4 is still the best one or that the live 4 has beat it
There's a few improvements on the SC Live 4 since it's newer, but I'll try to do an in depth comparison of my own before I give out any real answers Abdel
Hello, does someone know if i can connect phono (record player) into this mixer? thanks!
I don't think so. I believe you can with the Prime 4 though
These controllers r good back up in case ur laptop go down in the middle of a gig
That's true for standalones in general!
Wow Great video as always Sir👏👏👏
Thanks Wilson! Glad you enjoyed the review
How is the timestretch in stand a lone for chopped and screwed mixing?
I'd say it works pretty well, but I'd prefer using computer based programs for tighter mixing. Standalones work best for straight mixing, unless you've got the tracks really prepped. Hope I understood your question right Garret!
@@djcarlo Yea you covered it correctly. The day when serato time stretch and fx run flawlessly in standalone I feel will be pivotal.
carlo i need ur help, i want buy this denon dj controller but when i use this effects is that internal from serato only ? or can i use the effects in the mixer..pls :D
You can use the built in ones 😄
Phono / inputs and I’d be interested even though my prime 2 got returned because it was glitchy as
Big oof on your Prime 2 yo. What was wrong with them?
@@djcarlo a very rare manufacturing issue. The platters weren’t calibrating correctly so vinyl mode would confuse the computer leading to all kinds of glitches. Apparently the prime2 uses a different type of sensor to pioneers. I wish more standalone units had a proper mixer to send other inputs through fx and eq. Very happy now with my Reloop ready and laptop setup going into my Mpc and vinyl setup if I want.
What about sound card ?! Better than pioneer rx3 ???
Hmmm, I didn't notice anything particularly different with the sound. Let me try to get back to you about the specifics of the sound cards
Would you recommend LC Live 4 over Prime 2?
Not totally Andrea! Simply because I feel like the have different markets as a whole. The Prime series works better in clubs/bars, while the SC Live are for those who wanna work it in the live streaming or home set up market
@@djcarlo Thank you very much!
Drop a Course for Denon dj sc live 4 please.🙏🏿🙏🏿
Let's see what I can do there! But you can apply most of my lessons here to the SC Live 4 too!
Great video.... as always!
Thanks Jakub! Glad you enjoyed the review!
Do the build in effects work with Serato or do you lose them again in favor of the Serato Effects like the Prime 4?
I actually haven't tried that out. There's no dedicated button for program FX, so im assuming not. The built in ones honestly take the cake already for me
I really want to like Denon.. But those Play/Cue buttons just make it look so tacky 😞
Okay, I have to agree there. The buttons on the SC Live series are also pretty clicky, which I forgot to mention here
Does it have a battery?
Unfortunately, no. It needs to be plugged in
Spotify no?
Unfortunately no. Spotify cut their DJ program support years ago
We need more spinning platters but its looking like a thing of the past as even the new RANE 4 doesn't have them either.
I love em for the analog feel, but the wear and tear WILL get them after a certain amount of time
Still can't decide if I wanna try and hope for a Prime 4 or grab this
Prime 4
Do a compare and contrast with the 2 to see which one really suits your needs Knitex!
@@djcarlo What am I made of money? lol let me borrow yours
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Don't get me wrong it's an incredibly amazing system but I do think it's a little bit over priced
They actually dropped the price almost immediately after release. It's now retailing at $1,299. Apparently, a lot of people had the same sentiments as you did
sold my p4 and got a mint condition dnx 1700. nobody asks about sound quality anymore
Dang! Where'd you get the DNX 1700? Good stuff!
How long time after watching your video|| nice 👍 video dude
Thanks Popcat! Glad you liked the review!
I do like these review videos maybe more in the future?
As new controllers come out, that's the idea!
Can you change the format of the bars to go horizontal
When it's all 4 decks active, I don't think so. When it's only 2 decks, it's horizontal by default
Wich, denon prime go or sc live2 ??
Prime Go for me
@@djcarlo OK, BUT DOES THE PRIME GO HAVE THE LIGHT CONTROL OPTION?
@@carlosxino2989 I believe so.
what's the best controller for a beginner
Check my Best DJ Gear video Lit Lord!
Can you connect external pa speakers to it?
Yup yup! You can still connect external monitors and speakers to use it like a regular controller!
where to buy in the Philippines?
Check JB Music!
Love it got mine at weekend done gig on sunday with it well happy for1200with the earphone s yahoo
Great deal you got on it!