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- The AI in the Kiowa Warrior is easy to understand and simple to employ. This will enable single players maximum capacity to fly and fight in the OH-58D.
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KW drivers have called it that afor years.
have to say , we need casmo to do more videos outside DCS, i find the way you pass on the information easy to understand , im dyslexic so i struggle with taking complex information in which is frustrating. but im finding it easier with your videos casmo so thank you for puting the effort in. cant wait to fly the Kiowa
Glad it helps. Thank you.
@@CasmoTVif you could teach us how to grille a flank steak that would be great.
Dude! You get mega bonus points for the Buck Rodger's and Twiggy thumb nail!
JonBloor gets all the credit for that one.
Adding Erin Gray (Col. Wilma Deering) would have been +1000 extra special bonus points. :)
Bidi, bidi, bidi.
The best implementation of AI piloting in DCS, yet. Straight forward and completely omits the "modes" concept of George AI. I mean, I know, what the intent is to have cruise, combat and hover modes, but in a situation, where you simply need a co pilot to "make it work" this direct control over altitude, speed, direction and just "take controls and hover here!" is incredible.😍
i think jester is much better, but he is in a different league altogether. this guy is very the best of other ai though, i am in love with the UI
Best chopper AI, no question. Jester 2.0 in the F4 is really good, but the simplicity of the Kiowa AI is just fabulous.
The operation of the AI with the HUD is something ED could learn from!
Oh, man. I can't wait! I was worried about the complexity of the two positions, but this looks like the next-best-thing to playing multi-crew.
A thing to remember for those people who always complain about delays, is that PolyChop initially didn't plan on having this AI copilot available (I had Sven in my FB friends list for a while and we talked a few times about the module and what they wanted to do with it). I am very happy they decided to have it available for EA despite their initial plans 🙂
Developing this system takes time of course so that's part of the reason behind the OH58 taking longer than anticipated.
Well done, PolyChop! 👍
Two videos at the same time?? Thank you! Loving this content.
Looks impresive! Maybe they should also add (if not already there in) ability to point on the ground where you want the helicopter to go and stop in a hover with a specified heading... maybe the AI can decide what turns/path it will do to achieve that. Also the interface should be maybe made in different sizes so people that prefer a minimalist one could have it so.
Other than that... I am pleasantly impressed :)
I may not buy the Kiowa but I'm certainly glad we're getting an American helicopter with some unique and attack capabilities!
“Bidi, bidi, bidi….”….love the thumbnail…..So the AI is more Twiki than Dr Theopolis.
Thanks heaps to Casmo for making quality knowledged videos for us ! Long live Casmo !
Looks a lot more intuitive than ED’s George AI in the Apache!
Thank you ! Great video! Love that Buck Rogers Duo on vid‘s title screen!!!
this should be standard for every two pilot helicopter like Gazelle, UH, MI-8
"PilotMi8" from the ED forum posted a while ago about what he wanted to add to the M-8 module in terms of copilot capability, but sadly ED has a lot of other things to worry about too so it might be a while before we see that in action...
i have very low expectation about ED timelines
That looks like a really great tool, thanks for the video.
Would be nice if the stick position was trimmed prior to human take over of the controls (and ideally the peddles too if trimmed peddles on this aircraft are realistic). That should then eliminate the sudden jerkyness of the take over. I remember in a previous video you mentioned that in real operations, on take off, the trim was normally disabled (cyclic is a "wet noodle"). Assuming this wasn't enabled in your video in normal flight, perhaps it was enabled perhaps it would perform the trim action prior to take over? Anyways, thanks for the flight tips all the same, appreciated. 👍
It’d be cool if you were able to control drift speed and forward speed through the cyclic as well. Just so you don’t have to map more buttons.
Just a note this could also help with fine adjustments too
Can’t wait to get my hands on this fella.
Do we know if this AI is planned to be available on the gazelle also? That would be absolutely massive in my opinion
Great tutorial, you make really good tutorials. I am on the fence about getting this module. This is only for Enigma and Contention servers. I only care for PVP. For choppers, I know how to fly Gazelle, KA50 and Hind. My issue with the Kiowa is that there is only Pilot AI. I want to play as a pilot, I don't want to switch seats and map, remember and use 11 buttons for Pilot AI to launch hellfires. I love how the AI works in the Hind, 5 buttons and Petroviich finds targets , let's me -the pilot choose what to lock and fire upon, leaving me ,the pilot to do 1 job, which is to fly. KA50 is meant to be flown by 1 pilot, so that's that. I think that Polychop needs to implement Petroviich or George like AI. I have not flown or researched Heatblur's modules, so I can't comment on their AI.
Casmos videos are best 👍 I love this stuff.
WOW, That system looks great!
Keep up the great work!
great video - thanks!
The movements under ai control look to be on rails.. is it actually that sterile or was that just cause of how the video was made?
What about a copilot AI? Can it find targets for us and our wingmen?
Not yet.
@@CasmoTV they think about it?
How does that HUD look in VR? Is it fixed in the center like we see here, or will it move with your head?
Not sure.
Question what switches are you using to control the AI?
How does the AI interface HUD perform in VR?
how do you map the MMS on the pilot side like you said in 1:00 mark. i don't see any MMS key binds for pilot. And mapping them on the copilot doesn't seems to work for pilot... unless im missing something, thanks
Axis controls
The nice thing about posting a prerelease training video is you are almost certain to get two views per person. Now, and later when we've forgotten everything you've said. Maybe even three views. Not a bad way to rack up views! lol Great explanation for everything.
can it translate left and right ? never mind, first thing you showed ;)
know what would be a good implementation of AI?
point to a point on the ground and say "fly that way" or "hover over that point" or "hide behind that hill and peep over the trees/hill/cover"
idunno.. just thinking..........
Funny you should mention that, it's something I'm considering for the left seater AI. I was thinking about a similar feature from ARMA & VBS.
It’s going to be nice for those not use to going helos. But a great tool when solo. Question is does it let you switch seats in multiplayer since many modules do not. I’m sure there is a few mission editor option to restrict mp and ai as well. Keepem coming.
I’ve done it many times.
@@CasmoTV excellent 😎🍻
Will this AI system come to the gazelle
Great Ai, thanks polychop!
I’m just thinking of maybe adding a trigger to some missions to use the Kiowa (or Gazelle) to call in an artillery fire mission. Is that something they were ever used for?
Absolutely. That was the whole point of the MMS
It would be nice to ask him to maintain a AGL height instead of a baro
I believe you can when you use the terrain flight and NOE modes.
Give me this AI for the Gazelle!
Barundus Daddy?
Its a problem here. The flight model is too stable. The AI behaves as if it were flying on rails. He is a far from AI Petrovich or AI George. It's like some Arcade feature unfortunately. :( Zero inertia of any kind.
It’s also still being cleaned up so… that and who cares what the AI looks like flying? It’s pedantic things like this that boggle my mind.
@@CasmoTV you are currently using it. It's not an autohover , it's a simulation of a human crew member, that's what AI is all about. You know perfectly well that a helicopter cannot hover perfectly, especially without ground effect, there is absolutely always some drift, be it due to winds, weight, or even the use of weapons. As I say, I have nothing against using AI functions, but at least it shouldn't be War Thunder or some arcade game. Some movement is advisable, it's not a train on rails. All it takes is some wobbling like with George AI and it will be great. I hope they will add it.
@@Y0Y0 I just think in the grand scheme of things that’s very low on a priority.
"Arcade."
It's an accessibility system for solo pilots. Will it get improved over time, probably. But I suggest if you want ultimate realism you multicrew with a friend, not use AI to begin with. The system looks like it does it's job just fine for the most part, especially for initial release. A big question I had on the Kiowa was how viable it would be to solo with, this video cleared that question up nicely.
I have seen this complaint multiple times now and I honestly don't get it. Why do you even care if the "AI" pilot flies a bit on rails? If you want a realistic flight feeling take the controls and fly the damn thing yourself. The "AI" copilot is mostly there to take over for you while you are heads down in the cockpit. In this situation you won't notice the flight dynamics anyway. It's an absolute non-issue for me, as long as the "AI" will be reliable enough to not put me into VRS every chance it gets.
3 videos in one day? Kiowa dropping tomorrow 🤔?
Oh my sweet summer child…
Hopefully!
Ai hover is off. Looks more arcadish than the Ka50 black shark. It's questionable when used in multiplayer servers. ED really should regulate this as this as DCS World is a hardcore simulation title not ACE COMBAT
HARDCORE lol. Oh my sweet summer child.
I hope you dont find out how arcadey countermeasures are in DCS... or ECM... or the abomination called the BS3.
This nonsense has no business being in our realism simulator. Not only do I not want to fly it, I never even want to SEE it as it's immersion-destroying. (Kind of like the Gazelle when it still had it's original UFO flight model. It's not quite the abomination it used to be now, at least not from external view, but it still flies nothing like a helicopter. Even the OH-6A mod is better!)
And you're lying (yet again). NO other module resorts to a different, super-fake-looking flight model when you switch it to AI pilot. The AI has to fly the same flight model that you do. But these jokers at Polyslop are clearly too incompetent to code that!
lol. Ok friend.
Thank you for all of your hard work. You don't need to do this for anyone, but you choose to, and it's greatly appreciated. DCS tutorials are severely lacking so getting to learn from pilots who actually flew in the aircraft is pretty special. First with you and the Apache, then Notso with the F-15E, Mover and Gonky with the F/A-18/F-16, now back to you with the Kiowa. Thanks again.
I love the "Whoop Ass switch," and that's a pretty slick approach to playing a dual seat aircraft. Also, very nice job of demonstrating and walking is through it!
your youtube neighbor... the german dude who also does Kiowa tutorials in german; has been using voice attack to just use his voice to command the AI. He's giving actual heading commands and the AI will make the helicopter turn that way (e.g. Turn 050)... Now I'm wondering what's the keybind equivalent to that. Cuz I did not see one when I paused the video on the keybinds page.
There are two categories of inputs for the AI, since the other category for discrete inputs is massive.
this is just begging for Voice Attack binding
damn, release is really gonna happen next week :)
OMG! Looks so easy and intuitive! Let's hope George could learn those tricks..... 8(
Hope they port this to the Gazelle!
Great video! Will be revisiting these when it launches.
Great video. Completely sold on this module with the AI assistance.
I wish DCS has built in voice over command like Voice Attack with Vaicom. I use it in F-14 and was having a blast.
It seems like makes sense to think of it as a kind of conveniently featured auto pilot rather than an AI co-pilot. Since it's primarily going to used that way (i.e. only when you need to go heads down or have it fly a fixed heading and alt).
Why are you jumping to the coop seat?? There was other videos showing everything can be done from the pilots seat, including the video
i know its not a 50cal video but does it have some movement (like ka50) or is it fixed (like hind)?
Is there a way to switch to Radar Alt vs MSL?
Switching between Contour Flight and Level Flight does this
Hell Yeah!!
I REALLY hope they port the AI pilot over to the Gazelle, it needs it!
Can you make a video on all the tasks that the KW could do and how to do them in DCS? Things like SCAR, CCA, etc?
Eventually
@@CasmoTV Thanks
Again 3rd party dev being multiple levels better than ED in their implementation.
Thank you!!
Love the thumbnail
can we just fly an let AI find an laze like in the AH-64?
Not yet
Looks very intuitive and simple. I like it.
Have you ever looked into using the voice attack app for talking to your AI?
I have but haven’t figured out how to use it.
@@CasmoTV Like anything DCS related it can seem daunting at first but it's not really. You basically have a pre-created profile loaded in the app or create your own custom one. Voice attack runs in the background while DCS is running. Within the app options you assign a Hotas button for PTT which makes voice attack listen for the verbal command. When you open up the profile in the app editor you see the voice command on the left with the action (key strokes) on the right). Just double click an action to assign the necessary key combos.
Did they remove the "perform eight" from the AI actions ? I don't see it in my version
If the flight model is half way decent (though I hope it sets a new benchmark for choppers), this will instantly become my new favorite module!
The flight model is literally the best in DCS for rotary. And that’s not just my opinion. You’re gonna like it.
@@CasmoTV Yeah, I got that from your last video. I just didn’t want to jinx myself by being hyperbolic ! 😅 Couldn’t be happier! btw. love your videos!
I think you guys have beaten HeatBlur in this department. Nonetheless, we can use a fembot here, as long as “she” does not sound anywhere like actual actor……wait, can I have Erin Grey?
Please make it better than the Apache, AI there still cannot land the thing
I think you may have done your AI companion a disservice. It looks like you had ‘baro altitude’ set, rather than ‘terrain following’.
This AI pilot looks like a big jump forward. Nice job to polychop. It would be cool if the could incorporate somthing like the controls overlay directly into the AI "HUD" for an even more seemless transition.
personally ill definietly be flying the aircraft like 90% of the time but that AI hover and hover drift is amazing! ill definetly be using that when setting up for a shot
also is that Barundus voicing the Ai? :D
I see there’s what appears to be a zoomed-in video overlay/underlay on the controls indicator. Is that something new?
I was wondering the same thing. Looks like some kind of picture in picture zoom, but I'm not sure what it's looking at.
Oh dear, I see the same Bug as in the Gazelle. Grass in the Cockpit floor? Why 🤔
Don’t let things like that ruin a good time.
@@CasmoTV OK Sir! 😞
Looks very promising. Would be nice to see these functions implemented for other modules as well.
The AI HUD and controls are brilliant. Huge leap forward.
thanks for the work you do for the community Casmo, cannot wait for this module, will defo be my main aircraft
This module looks amazing. I wish ED would send George over to Polychop, for an exchange program . 🙂
Now, please excuse me while I continue to carve out a base in that extinct volcano (which I need to launch the laser weapon - still in a very early planning stage - into orbit, in order to extort money from Earth's governments, to be able to buy all those modules and maps...)
I hate that its basically MSFS SLEW mode and looks like it's on rails. They totally need to add in some variability to make it more realistic.
Thanks for the great video. Polychop has knocked the AI pilot controls out of the park with this! Way better then the AH64. Thanks again for the video. Keep um coming.
I disagree, you need way too many buttons mapped with this solution (11 just with the examples given in this demo), the AH64 only needs 5 for it's AI. Maybe voice attack would make this more practical but I for sure don't have 11+ buttons I can map on my joy/throttle just for this.
@@nynphosethey could get around this issue a bit if they mapped drift speed and forward speed to the cyclic axis. Would also let you make some finer adjustments.
Y-digydigydigy, sterling work Buck! 🦾🔥