The french and britsh fought over all continents. The biggest rivalry. Two of the most powerful armies. Brilliant documentary. Timeline always bring best documentaries. One of my alltime fav.
My ancestors, fought in this war. We, Cherokee fought alongside our British allies, wearing their redcoats in battle. Needless to say, our side won. I have no question that we Cherokee played a pivotal role in that victory. 😮
@jafo766 As did the Americans. Andy Jackson's life was saved by a Cherokee during the Red Stick rebellion. Then, when Andy became president, his 1840 Indian Removal Act pushed us Cherokees, along with the Creeks, Choctaws, and Chickasaws all be shoved west of the Mississippi River. Here's the reason. We were in the way! That's it. We were in the way! The European people demanded even more land and the only land they wanted was ours. The Cherokee land became particularly more valuable once GOLD was discovered there. So, the Trail Where They Cried, is what we called it. The Euros called it the Trail of Tears. I suppose done advertising agency came up with it. Some of my family went on the Trail, but most of my family hid up in the mountains. Those people were the basis for The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. There are a lot of details I left out, but this are the basivs.
The only negative thing I can say is that the music is completely inappropriate. I have absolutely no problem with Beethoven or Dvorak, but why couldn't we hear something more contemporaneous with the French and Indian War like William Boyce, Glück, or C.P.E. Bach?! There's equally beautiful and amazing music from this period!
Finally, one of the most fascinating wars of the last few hundred years yet so little attention is paid to it. Without it USA would never exist. What a time to have been alive.
Well, if the colonists had lost the American Revolution, there was no chance of independence for the future, because the Brits got steam powered gunboats within a few decades after the Industrial Revolution, along with otheer mechanised Military stuff
My uncle was Capt John "Jack" Ashby of the Virginia Militia. He took Washington's message to Governor Dinwiddie in Williamsburg about the defeat at Fort Duquesne. He took 3 days to travel by horseback from Winchester Va to Williamsburg Va. A distance of 181 miles by today's roads. Washington saw him in camp on the 3rd day and got mad because he thought he had not left yet. Ashby replied he had already been and handed Washington the Goveners reply. Over 360 miles in 3 days. My wife wondered how many horses he killed.
Great, great, great, great, great, great uncle Whoever you think your uncle was 275 years ago, was not your uncle. Someone in your family made up some stories
There is so much information you missed on the batailles des plaines d'Abraham. Montcalm had recieved warning about Wolf's plan and he replied "the english cant attack us from the plains because of the cliffs, what will they do, grow wings and fly up?". When he woke up the next morning, Wolf had done just that and the english were already setting up for battle. That night, the scouts along the saint Laurent didnt recieve the memo that there were no cargo convoy planned that night and they just waved at the english as they sailed by...
@@JoeyArmstrong2800the French were never brillant military strategists? Then how come at the time every single nation based its military strategy in the French one, the British used French ships and their designs to build new ships, the French won the most military victories of any country around the world, and up to today every single nation including the USA bases its tactics and advances in materials based on French developments and tactics? During this particular conflict, like most of the conflicts England fought against France, England secured an alliance with other European powers to fight the French in Europe and keep them busy, all the while having the Royal Navy blockading the French navy in ports, thus unable to send reinforcements, and England sending tens of thousands of troops to the Americas to fight the few French (less than 5000) stationed there whiteout reinforcements and provisions.
2:10 I read that at the time of the French and Indian War, there were more people of French ancestry in the English colonies than in the French colonies. How did this happen? The Huguenots (French Protestants) had been repeatedly persecuted by the French government in order to force them to be Roman Catholic. Many Huguenots left France because of this. This is how the word "refugee" was introduced to European languages. They fled to the German states, the Netherlands, and England. Many reemmigrated to the English colonies. Paul Revere was the son of Huguenots, and his family name was originally Rivoire. One of George Washington's grandmothers was the daughter of Huguenots. Priscilla Mullins of Mayflower fame was the daughter of Huguenots, her family name was originally Molinaré. The first Chief Justice John Jay had Huguenot parents.
Multiple reasons surrounding Anglo cultural development, including more feeling of emmancippation and enfranchisement. Consistent English uprisings agaiinst abuse of authority, had led to Parliament being in control. The idea of personal rights and property, was amongst common citizens throughout the Anglo culture, but not the Franco culture at this time. Gradually, since the English Bill of Rights and cutting the King head off in the early 1600's They had a fully functioning constituency-based parliamentary democracy, by about 1720, the 1st modern ratified free structures.They also had the big 4 centralised banks since 1650 (Lloyds, Barclays, et cetera) who were already practising fractional reserve investment banking, just in time for the 1st Industrial Revolution in the early 1700' s, driven by The idea's off free market capitalism, the interlocking networks of canals and turnpike trusts on the roads, 100 years before the steam engine and the 2nd Industrial revolution. The majority of European nobles and merchants and many Merchants in the colonies were storing their wealth in English banks and "goldsmiths of London", from 1650 onwards, as it was much safer from being hijacked by a king for arbitrary reasons and the investment returns were very good- the king in England being pretty impotent.Many Enlightenment thinkers ran away to England, Including Voltaire, who wrote in la Henrietta and Lettres sur la Anglais - "I can learn to think in England,"" England is a nation of philosophers … Land of liberty" and"England taught Europe how to think."
Jacques Abbadie birthing Franco israelism probably didn't help. French Protestants are rare I've still never met one. Not that it matters most French are secular now.
Eh. I find it very ponderous. IT is a very narrow, linear approach. No real stepping back and showing the overall strategy, or the scope of other major actions. It could use a more dynamic narrator, faster changing and more relevant graphics. More active maps showing the location of places and troop movements being discussed and less of the generic reenactor footage would help the viewer understand.
The entire war was contrived Britain and France were working together all along that's why France is dominating Africa today because no one has the knowledge or brains to complain against the French for exploiting Africa although they claim they're doing it to be anti-terrorist or some nonsense
@@aldousbrawndo996makes no sense, I don’t think they were working together by killing each other in the firing lines , but I see what u saying maybe the politicians orchestrated it to profit off war
The American Revolutionary War did not end in ejecting France from North America! France famously helped the Americans to win, particularly the final battle where they blockaded Charleston Harbor, preventing British General Cornwallis from fleeing Washington's troops. The French only gave up their holdings in 1803 when Napoleon sold Louisiana Territory to the U.S. in order to raise money for his European wars.
Well, it was more like private French families representing France, using their own money to help the effort for independence. They were promised by Am Govt to be repaid. The money never came and french families that moved here, having brought their families ships, and their collective cash, lost everything, leaving very poor, struggling, french ancestors both in America and in France.
@selecttravelvacations7472 wonder if any are still waiting? I mean geez, after what happened to Arnold I would think one would know if you will not repay you're own people why would a French family be paid? Remember how Washington had to personally get involved with veterans demanding their pay with muskets in hand outside the Ole big house of puffin wigs that nearly became bloodbath and another rebellion..
@@selecttravelvacations7472 What you mean? The French Completely threw the kitchen sink at this War, leading to their bankruptcy.It wasn't just French families.
I'm glad this overlooked chapter in history received some attention. I've been to both forts Niagara and Ticonderoga. You can really feel the history there.
Modern US Rangers still use Roger's rules for movement to this day... I remember my uncle saying something one evening back in the early 90's and I said to him "that sounds like the Roger's rangers" he said he'd heard that name i just said before when he went through LRRP Recondo school in Nam.. he chuckled and said he thought he "roger" must have been one of the hardcases from back in the advisor days of Nam.. I've always loved and laughed at that story... God bless you uncle Gene, rest in peace
The small city is Monongahela. The documentary didn't describe Bradocks Rd. The British and American militia buried general Bradock in the road so the French would not know he was killed in the battle.
Schools don’t really talk about the other wars in our country, like the French and Indian war and the War of 1812. I think it’s a bit embarrassing that most of my education came from extracurricular books rather than the school textbooks.
if you watch military vids, get used to it ... all of it sounds like CGI voices ... the next generation (the part that shows any interest) will be mispronouncing & passing it on after all, it's pronounced 'Key sir' ... not 'Sea sir', in the native Latin. it's pronounced 'When E, Wid E, Wee Key' ... not 'Veni, Vidi, Vici' I'm just glad people are interested enough to try & understand the past Keep on educating yourselves while you still can
I agree wholeheartedly! Allen W. Eckert wrote a series of 5 books covering this and other periods in the making of America. He uses extensive foot notes and resources, and has the ability to put it all together in a form which reads more like a novel, yet all is backed with original records and personal letters. This war is covered very well in " The Wilderness Empire".
Terrible use of music, and above all of its volume. Very intrusive, to thr point of giving me a headache because of the effort to hear the narrator clearly. On the other hand, the doc was worth the price paid.
It was a wonderful historical coverage of this episode about that conflict on North American content, which embodied 1- global Dominates Competition between Frances 🇫🇷 and British 🇬🇧 colonial ambitious over North American content .2- Both global sides exploited red Indian tribe's blood in their's military companies 3- this conflict and sometimes other conflicts reflected white European immigrant ambitions for more settled expansion and future independent prospectives which created the USA 🇺🇸 and Canada 🇨🇦 ....really it was informative and truthful documentary coverage
@@bcwest56 Everyone was exploited , But those who did so willingly did so with intentions of exploiting the other at hand. No one goes to war for nothing. The natives wanted Guns, the Europeans wanted land. Only a matter of time before this popped off.
Lots of people are pointing out the mispronunciations in the video, which are a pity and detract from the otherwise good information being presented. I'll add one more that I didn't see mentioned below. At around 47:25, it's pronounced Lake mem-phre-MAY-gog. There was a movie made around 1940 that depicts Roger's raid on St. Francis called Northwest Passage....stars Spencer Tracy, Robert Young, Walter Brennan, and Ruth Hussey...that's actually where I first learned about this episode in history.
@7:42, you state that "Washington... pathfinding his way up the Ohio River.." This is not true. Washington found his way into the area by traveling west from Virginia, meeting up with and then moving down along the Monongahela river. Also stated incorrectly is that Fort Duquesne was "above" what is now Pittsburgh. Ft. Duquesne was located at the confluence of the Three Rivers where the Monongahela meets the Allegheny to form the Ohio river and was the epicenter of modern day Pittsburgh. One would think that a "historical" documentary would want to be accurate by stating fact
You bet , a japnese low ranked officer started the Sino japnese war where japnese won ofcourse , by a incident called as mukden bridge accident. The point is no such incident happened. That is true and was found later after WW2 It was a false incident created purposely and give the Japs a pretext of invading further into china. Also the kargil war of 1999 started after a patrol party of 5 indian soldiers were captured by the Pakistanis , tortured for 20 days by puncturing their eyes , cutting off their noses , tongues , and private parts and finally after 20 days of this process they were killed This thing led to india bombarding pakistani intruders heavily probably equal to a battle from WW2. By 120 mm , 160 mm mortras , 105, 130 mm guns s , 155 mm guns and laser guided bombs along with rocket artillery. The Pakistanis were battered every day , each hour. After few months all the mountain passes and forts were cleared
One spark was all it took. In this case, George Washington killing a French diplomat on a peace mission. Yeah, pretty weird George Washington started the French and Indian War He kinda helped end it, and the next one
@justinwilson6848 well I'm not sure, I mean after all if a tree falls in the Forrest and no one is around..... did it though? Hmm it is indeed a mystery
Comme plusieurs de mes compatriotes la fin de cette guerre ,me brise le coeur ,ma famille est présente en Amérique depuis 1642,les Français ont quitter suite a cette guerre les ''Canadiens Français '' sommes rester et encore bien présent ! Like many of my compatriots, the end of this war breaks my heart, my family has been present in America since 1642, the French left following this war the ''French Canadians'' are staying and still very present!
Probablement que ton ancêtre a connu le mien, peut-être été sur le même navire faisant la traversée de l'Atlantique, car il a comme le tien touché terre en Amérique au cours de cette même décennie...
@@mcgiver6977 probablement ,ils étaient si peu nombreux a cette époque ,si ton ancêtre a eux besoin de vêtement adapter au nouveau monde ,il a surement croisé le chemin du mien ,il était tailleur a Montréal *(fondé en 1642)
@@feedbackfred1815 Ton ancêtre aura vu les premiers balbutiements de Montréal, c'est incroyable ! Blague à part, c'est fou à quel point la colonie était vide dans cette première moitié du 17e siècle. C'était si long avant de rencontrer âme qui vive !
I’m fluent in Athabaskan Language (Navajo) our cousins in Canada have a sort of ‘French Accent’ when I listen to them. They seem to have some French words too. Here in the Southwest there is Spanish words in our language as well as the Apache folks. My grandparents didn’t know a word of English (Only Bad Words) but they could speak some Spanish and Hopi (Uto-Aztecan). Native Americans spoke many different languages including European languages very well back in the day. There were sign languages as well, leaders would use sign languages to communicate with each other, and only if you were chosen to be a leader you were taught the sign languages. When leaders met with leaders from other tribes it was important to know sign fluently to keep outsiders from knowing your conversations. Then there was sign language for Warfighters much different than politics. Even women had their own sign language from what I understand. I believe all tribes had these abilities in ancient times, but all is forgotten.
America learned how to fight in that war, and have carried the lessons forward to this day.Robert Rogers of Roger's Rangers wrote the book that U.S. Army Rangers follow. Tep this war, that started the Revolution and the war of 1812 both need more attention.
Crazy how times change so rapidly, from enemies to best friends. The Rangers were modelled after the British Commandos and took their playbook from a Loyalist unit of Rangers (Rogers) who themselves were formed to copy and counter French-Canadian Raiders. The entire continent is famous as a breeding ground for the more modern ways of war, suprise speed and violence was the playbook for those early raiders in New France and modern day Special Operations around the globe carry those traditions forward 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇨🇦🇺🇲
Interestingly enough, the Mohawk, Chickasaw, and the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy were opposed to the French colonials and had a working relationship with the British empire. Probably because the British empire despite being a colonial imposition also had a better concept of colonial boundaries. They were aligned with the English, so calling it "French and Indian war" is a misnomer, there were Indians who preferred the British as an ally.
While Braddock is sometimes unfairly portrayed as an arrogant idiot, that description was sometimes true about other senior British commanders (Abercrombie, et al.). I still like the theme that leads to the winning of the war; ordinary king agrees out of self-interest to let extraordinary minister (Pitt the Elder) run the war, minister gets resources the key theater (North America and the Carribean) and gives them to intelligent commanders (Amherst, Wolfe, Forbes) with a clear battle plan to win the war. Only problem, once war won overseas, new king gets rid of minister and cuts off support for nation's key continental ally (Frederick the Great, who would remember the offense in 1776+), giving enemy forces time to recover and hold on to a few items in ultimate peace agreement.
I was born in a little place called Cumberland, Maryland. George Washington had headquarters located there and there is still a road named Braddock Road. I've stood where the sign that speaks of Braddock"s death. It's quite moving, well it was to me as a kid before I joined the military and witnessed death and destruction on a daily basis. I was a sniper and served only a short time in the regular military before being seconded to another government unit where my particular skills were in high demand. In my capacity, I traveled the globe reigning death on tyrants, warlords, and drug lords wherever I was sent. To some people, my duties sound horrific, but I believed in my mission and still stand by it. Your comments were insightful. Thank you.
I am an American of French Canadian extraction. My firth great grandfather fought on the French side of this war. I suspect my New England maternal side did also since I trace it back to the same time and a prominent Revolutionary War name - Custis/Lee. After the war, the British then engaged in the suppression of the French Canadians, even a terror campaign. This caused the problem of separatist Quebec that simmers to this day.
Imagine a French speaking USA J'etais comme, lol, George Washington serving in The British army and accepting the Kings coin., oh the irony. excellent documentary.
Would like to add one thing I feel to be important; the French taught the natives how to scalp. They would scalp them, and they retaliated in kind. Thats how that got started
amazing since supposedly they didn't have a timepiece good enough to keep up with Longitude until the 1750's . gvt offered up a cash prize to anyone who could invent it around 1714.
So let me get something straight. The colonists (the ones that fought for America’s independence), were they considered part of “the british” or were they their own separate thing (known as “America”) before they gained their independence? It’s all so confusing to me. You had the british, the French and the native Indians all fighting for territory, so how did the colonists fit into this? Were they British? Were they French? Were they a free people? Or were they essentially slaves? Sorry I’m not well versed in American history.
What was know as the thirteen colonies were under British rule, the Canadians what is now Ontario Canada and some of western NY, Michigan and down the mississippi river to Lousiana, were French controlled. The Indian also know as the 7 nations and other Indian nations from out west live in mostly New York, Pennsylvania and some in upper Canada (southern Ontario). The colonist formed there own Militia regiments that fought along side the professional soldiers that came from there respective nations. The indians sided with the nations who they thought would win the war at the time. At the beginning of the war most indians fought for the French, but as the French lost more and more lands to the british the indians started to side with the British. As for the colonist themselves by the time of the French and Indian wars they were people who either fled Britian from religous persecution, criminals who were banshed to the Americas or other who were looking for business opportunities (the new trade markets) or trying to get out of Europes poor society to start new lives. The French came for similar reasons. This didnt just happen in the America's it also happened throughout Caribbean islands, but you dont hear about this area until later on, with the stories about the Caribbean pirates.
The fact is; he did not follow the Ohio up to "The Forks", He came across the mountains of Virginia, making stops at: Fredricksburg; Alexandria; and Winchester before reaching Will's Creek where the Ohio Company (a trading outfit) had a large storehouse. This; BTW, in the middle of Nov. through rain and snow.
While this presentation has some good context, it also lacks much background which would lend to a better understanding of just how brutal this war had become and also give attendees a better knowledge of how and why the colonists rebelled against England. Allen W. Eckert; in his book "Wilderness Empire" uses legal documents, letters, and records to bring home the truth of the settlement of the Ohio Valley. The authors' view of Washington is very biased and mis-leading.
The french and britsh fought over all continents. The biggest rivalry. Two of the most powerful armies. Brilliant documentary. Timeline always bring best documentaries. One of my alltime fav.
My ancestors, fought in this war. We, Cherokee fought alongside our British allies, wearing their redcoats in battle.
Needless to say, our side won. I have no question that we Cherokee played a pivotal role in that victory. 😮
And how did these British treat you for the next 200 yrs ? I know they $crewed the Native's of Canada whom fought along side of them !
@jafo766 As did the Americans.
Andy Jackson's life was saved by a Cherokee during the Red Stick rebellion.
Then, when Andy became president, his 1840 Indian Removal Act pushed us Cherokees, along with the Creeks, Choctaws, and Chickasaws all be shoved west of the Mississippi River. Here's the reason. We were in the way! That's it. We were in the way! The European people demanded even more land and the only land they wanted was ours. The Cherokee land became particularly more valuable once GOLD was discovered there.
So, the Trail Where They Cried, is what we called it. The Euros called it the Trail of Tears. I suppose done advertising agency came up with it.
Some of my family went on the Trail, but most of my family hid up in the mountains. Those people were the basis for The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians.
There are a lot of details I left out, but this are the basivs.
@@jafo766most specifically the annoying queen victoria
@@jafo766lol as if the french were any better
@@treeismyusernamewhyjustwhy LOVED BLACK'S , HATED NATIVES the old $ow....OUI !
The only negative thing I can say is that the music is completely inappropriate. I have absolutely no problem with Beethoven or Dvorak, but why couldn't we hear something more contemporaneous with the French and Indian War like William Boyce, Glück, or C.P.E. Bach?! There's equally beautiful and amazing music from this period!
I fully agree. It makes the ambience very odd
Correct
You're right.
and far too loud - distracted from the narration
Finally, one of the most fascinating wars of the last few hundred years yet so little attention is paid to it. Without it USA would never exist. What a time to have been alive.
Technically it was America's 1st first world war.
This is also a time to be alive. Fascism is on a steady rise throughout the world.
Well, if the colonists had lost the American Revolution, there was no chance of independence for the future, because the Brits got steam powered gunboats within a few decades after the Industrial Revolution, along with otheer mechanised Military stuff
@@embersuhnuhk346hope it isn’t complete
@@embersuhnuhk346literally everything right of pride month is fascism to you libs lol 🤦♂️
My uncle was Capt John "Jack" Ashby of the Virginia Militia. He took Washington's message to Governor Dinwiddie in Williamsburg about the defeat at Fort Duquesne. He took 3 days to travel by horseback from Winchester Va to Williamsburg Va. A distance of 181 miles by today's roads. Washington saw him in camp on the 3rd day and got mad because he thought he had not left yet. Ashby replied he had already been and handed Washington the Goveners reply. Over 360 miles in 3 days. My wife wondered how many horses he killed.
Your uncle? How old are you?
@dillonhillier lol I think he means his great uncle
He probably swapped mounts along the way
Great, great, great, great, great, great uncle
Whoever you think your uncle was 275 years ago, was not your uncle.
Someone in your family made up some stories
Thank you for sharing your family history with the rest of us. Your ancestors still live as long as those memories are intact.
There is so much information you missed on the batailles des plaines d'Abraham.
Montcalm had recieved warning about Wolf's plan and he replied "the english cant attack us from the plains because of the cliffs, what will they do, grow wings and fly up?". When he woke up the next morning, Wolf had done just that and the english were already setting up for battle.
That night, the scouts along the saint Laurent didnt recieve the memo that there were no cargo convoy planned that night and they just waved at the english as they sailed by...
The French were never brilliant military strategists and lousy administrators. No wonder they lost the continent.
@@JoeyArmstrong2800the French were never brillant military strategists?
Then how come at the time every single nation based its military strategy in the French one, the British used French ships and their designs to build new ships, the French won the most military victories of any country around the world, and up to today every single nation including the USA bases its tactics and advances in materials based on French developments and tactics?
During this particular conflict, like most of the conflicts England fought against France, England secured an alliance with other European powers to fight the French in Europe and keep them busy, all the while having the Royal Navy blockading the French navy in ports, thus unable to send reinforcements, and England sending tens of thousands of troops to the Americas to fight the few French (less than 5000) stationed there whiteout reinforcements and provisions.
@@brunol-p_g8800 I'm talking North America during the French-Indian War.
2:10 I read that at the time of the French and Indian War, there were more people of French ancestry in the English colonies than in the French colonies. How did this happen? The Huguenots (French Protestants) had been repeatedly persecuted by the French government in order to force them to be Roman Catholic. Many Huguenots left France because of this. This is how the word "refugee" was introduced to European languages. They fled to the German states, the Netherlands, and England. Many reemmigrated to the English colonies. Paul Revere was the son of Huguenots, and his family name was originally Rivoire. One of George Washington's grandmothers was the daughter of Huguenots. Priscilla Mullins of Mayflower fame was the daughter of Huguenots, her family name was originally Molinaré. The first Chief Justice John Jay had Huguenot parents.
Multiple reasons surrounding Anglo cultural development, including more feeling of emmancippation and enfranchisement. Consistent English uprisings agaiinst abuse of authority, had led to Parliament being in control. The idea of personal rights and property, was amongst common citizens throughout the Anglo culture, but not the Franco culture at this time. Gradually, since the English Bill of Rights and cutting the King head off in the early 1600's They had a fully functioning constituency-based parliamentary democracy, by about 1720, the 1st modern ratified free structures.They also had the big 4 centralised banks since 1650 (Lloyds, Barclays, et cetera) who were already practising fractional reserve investment banking, just in time for the 1st Industrial Revolution in the early 1700' s, driven by The idea's off free market capitalism, the interlocking networks of canals and turnpike trusts on the roads, 100 years before the steam engine and the 2nd Industrial revolution. The majority of European nobles and merchants and many Merchants in the colonies were storing their wealth in English banks and "goldsmiths of London", from 1650 onwards, as it was much safer from being hijacked by a king for arbitrary reasons and the investment returns were very good- the king in England being pretty impotent.Many Enlightenment thinkers ran away to England, Including Voltaire, who wrote in la Henrietta and Lettres sur la Anglais - "I can learn to think in England,"" England is a nation of philosophers … Land of liberty" and"England taught Europe how to think."
Yes but Irish catholics were also persecuted in UK.
@@vincentlefebvre9255 Yes, but the persecution of the Irish is covered in history classes. The Huguenots have been erased from American history books.
Jacques Abbadie birthing Franco israelism probably didn't help. French Protestants are rare I've still never met one. Not that it matters most French are secular now.
Nice Documentary, but the background music is occasionally over the top drowning out the narration. However still good stuff
Yes ,absolutelly the music is very annoying. The documentary would have been much better without sound.
Eh. I find it very ponderous. IT is a very narrow, linear approach. No real stepping back and showing the overall strategy, or the scope of other major actions. It could use a more dynamic narrator, faster changing and more relevant graphics. More active maps showing the location of places and troop movements being discussed and less of the generic reenactor footage would help the viewer understand.
Wow. An actual documentary about the French and Indian War. Thanks for posting correctly.
No kidding!
The entire war was contrived Britain and France were working together all along that's why France is dominating Africa today because no one has the knowledge or brains to complain against the French for exploiting Africa although they claim they're doing it to be anti-terrorist or some nonsense
@aldousbrawndo996 I think you skipped class the day they were covering the 18th century (that's the 1700's for you tardy boy) 😉
I know!! I can’t believe it
@@aldousbrawndo996makes no sense, I don’t think they were working together by killing each other in the firing lines , but I see what u saying maybe the politicians orchestrated it to profit off war
Needs to be more seven years war/french-indian war content, very overlooked period in history :(
I like content. Content piff.
We need a video game on it! That Would be nice. Choosing with all the natives tribes, militia and soliders to play as.
The American Revolutionary War did not end in ejecting France from North America! France famously helped the Americans to win, particularly the final battle where they blockaded Charleston Harbor, preventing British General Cornwallis from fleeing Washington's troops. The French only gave up their holdings in 1803 when Napoleon sold Louisiana Territory to the U.S. in order to raise money for his European wars.
Well, it was more like private French families representing France, using their own money to help the effort for independence. They were promised by Am Govt to be repaid. The money never came and french families that moved here, having brought their families ships, and their collective cash, lost everything, leaving very poor, struggling, french ancestors both in America and in France.
@selecttravelvacations7472 wonder if any are still waiting? I mean geez, after what happened to Arnold I would think one would know if you will not repay you're own people why would a French family be paid? Remember how Washington had to personally get involved with veterans demanding their pay with muskets in hand outside the Ole big house of puffin wigs that nearly became bloodbath and another rebellion..
@@selecttravelvacations7472 What you mean? The French Completely threw the kitchen sink at this War, leading to their bankruptcy.It wasn't just French families.
I'm glad this overlooked chapter in history received some attention. I've been to both forts Niagara and Ticonderoga. You can really feel the history there.
Modern US Rangers still use Roger's rules for movement to this day... I remember my uncle saying something one evening back in the early 90's and I said to him "that sounds like the Roger's rangers" he said he'd heard that name i just said before when he went through LRRP Recondo school in Nam.. he chuckled and said he thought he "roger" must have been one of the hardcases from back in the advisor days of Nam.. I've always loved and laughed at that story... God bless you uncle Gene, rest in peace
Enjoyable video. 9:00 "..the Mon-non-gala River" pronounced Mo-non-ga-hey-la. Or to locals, just "the Mon" 😊
The small city is Monongahela. The documentary didn't describe Bradocks Rd. The British and American militia buried general Bradock in the road so the French would not know he was killed in the
battle.
They mispronounced Allegheny as well, I noticed.
Very dynamic, and I love the format.
Allegheny is pronounced al-i-gainee. Monongahela is pronounced mo-nonga-heela.
Haha...that's funny but this guy can't even pronounce Ticonderoga nor even the word promontory.
Thanks for sharing
Schools don’t really talk about the other wars in our country, like the French and Indian war and the War of 1812. I think it’s a bit embarrassing that most of my education came from extracurricular books rather than the school textbooks.
I was just telling my gf about that
Sad we have to take it upon ourselves
Thanks for sharing!!
Bloody fantastic work mate
This is very interesting but it would be nice if the commentator pronounced Allegheny and Monongahela correctly
Ebonics
if you watch military vids, get used to it ... all of it sounds like CGI voices ... the next generation (the part that shows any interest) will be mispronouncing & passing it on
after all, it's pronounced 'Key sir' ... not 'Sea sir', in the native Latin.
it's pronounced 'When E, Wid E, Wee Key' ... not 'Veni, Vidi, Vici'
I'm just glad people are interested enough to try & understand the past
Keep on educating yourselves while you still can
Or Memphrémagog, and about 80% of the locations and names he mentions, lol
My favorite time period..the book the frontiersmen by Allan Eckert is an excellent read on this time period. You will not be disappointed!
I'll probably check it out
I agree wholeheartedly! Allen W. Eckert wrote a series of 5 books covering this and other periods in the making of America. He uses extensive foot notes and resources, and has the ability to put it all together in a form which reads more like a novel, yet all is backed with original records and personal letters. This war is covered very well in " The Wilderness Empire".
Why do videographers insist on mixing loud music into the narration and ruin what would otherwise be a good video?😢
I didn´t know anything of this war. Now I know. Thank you alot
Remixing the soundtrack so the music is 20% or less as loud as it is wouldn’t hurt.
Fantastic!!
Terrible use of music, and above all of its volume. Very intrusive, to thr point of giving me a headache because of the effort to hear the narrator clearly.
On the other hand, the doc was worth the price paid.
Which was nothing.😄
How about a history on the King Phillips War? Such violence in MA and RI so many people are oblivious. Thank you for this video / history lesson
It was a wonderful historical coverage of this episode about that conflict on North American content, which embodied 1- global Dominates Competition between Frances 🇫🇷 and British 🇬🇧 colonial ambitious over North American content .2- Both global sides exploited red Indian tribe's blood in their's military companies 3- this conflict and sometimes other conflicts reflected white European immigrant ambitions for more settled expansion and future independent prospectives which created the USA 🇺🇸 and Canada 🇨🇦 ....really it was informative and truthful documentary coverage
Native Americans were not exploited. Some of them came as far away as the Plain States to participate.
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Everyone was exploited ,
But those who did so willingly did so with intentions of exploiting the other at hand.
No one goes to war for nothing.
The natives wanted Guns, the Europeans wanted land.
Only a matter of time before this popped off.
Wrong demo here, but excellent pod guys. Stories kept my attention and you both taught so much to future Rangers.
This would be interesting if only I could hear the narration over the 'background' music
Music was too much on this one over powered narrative too bad as it was very interesting
A very good presentation but the music is so loud at times that it makes it difficult to hear the vocals clearly.
This is great, but we need maps........got to have good, easy to read maps on screen for a good 10 seconds.
Lots of people are pointing out the mispronunciations in the video, which are a pity and detract from the otherwise good information being presented. I'll add one more that I didn't see mentioned below. At around 47:25, it's pronounced Lake mem-phre-MAY-gog. There was a movie made around 1940 that depicts Roger's raid on St. Francis called Northwest Passage....stars Spencer Tracy, Robert Young, Walter Brennan, and Ruth Hussey...that's actually where I first learned about this episode in history.
Great film.
AMAZING WORK -- by whatever 5th grade media class that filmed these battle scenes. OUTSTANDING work guyyss, keep it up👍👍👍!!!
My 8th grade teacher let my friend and I teach this conflict to all our classes for a permanent A for the year. Interesting and important war
Thank you 💛.
@7:42, you state that "Washington... pathfinding his way up the Ohio River.." This is not true. Washington found his way into the area by traveling west from Virginia, meeting up with and then moving down along the Monongahela river. Also stated incorrectly is that Fort Duquesne was "above" what is now Pittsburgh. Ft. Duquesne was located at the confluence of the Three Rivers where the Monongahela meets the Allegheny to form the Ohio river and was the epicenter of modern day Pittsburgh. One would think that a "historical" documentary would want to be accurate by stating fact
Ive never heard of a small event sparking a gigantic war. This must have been pretty rare.
Yea, total mind bender that one.. not sure I can come up with a similar story??!?
You bet , a japnese low ranked officer started the Sino japnese war where japnese won ofcourse , by a incident called as mukden bridge accident.
The point is no such incident happened.
That is true and was found later after WW2
It was a false incident created purposely and give the Japs a pretext of invading further into china.
Also the kargil war of 1999 started after a patrol party of 5 indian soldiers were captured by the Pakistanis , tortured for 20 days by puncturing their eyes , cutting off their noses , tongues , and private parts and finally after 20 days of this process they were killed
This thing led to india bombarding pakistani intruders heavily probably equal to a battle from WW2.
By 120 mm , 160 mm mortras , 105, 130 mm guns s , 155 mm guns and laser guided bombs along with rocket artillery.
The Pakistanis were battered every day , each hour.
After few months all the mountain passes and forts were cleared
lol idkkk WW2 didnt happen did it?
One spark was all it took. In this case, George Washington killing a French diplomat on a peace mission. Yeah, pretty weird George Washington started the French and Indian War
He kinda helped end it, and the next one
@justinwilson6848 well I'm not sure, I mean after all if a tree falls in the Forrest and no one is around..... did it though? Hmm it is indeed a mystery
I discovered in my family tree, I have an ancestor that fought in this war.
Very good...!
Been waiting for this❤
Comme plusieurs de mes compatriotes la fin de cette guerre ,me brise le coeur ,ma famille est présente en Amérique depuis 1642,les Français ont quitter suite a cette guerre les ''Canadiens Français '' sommes rester et encore bien présent ! Like many of my compatriots, the end of this war breaks my heart, my family has been present in America since 1642, the French left following this war the ''French Canadians'' are staying and still very present!
Probablement que ton ancêtre a connu le mien, peut-être été sur le même navire faisant la traversée de l'Atlantique, car il a comme le tien touché terre en Amérique au cours de cette même décennie...
@@mcgiver6977 probablement ,ils étaient si peu nombreux a cette époque ,si ton ancêtre a eux besoin de vêtement adapter au nouveau monde ,il a surement croisé le chemin du mien ,il était tailleur a Montréal *(fondé en 1642)
@@feedbackfred1815 Ton ancêtre aura vu les premiers balbutiements de Montréal, c'est incroyable ! Blague à part, c'est fou à quel point la colonie était vide dans cette première moitié du 17e siècle. C'était si long avant de rencontrer âme qui vive !
You are royalty! 😅😅
Wolf went on to get a wing in the Abbey, Hero of Canada.
Never heard of him , see Francis Pegamagambo story from WWI , another Native whom gave too much to those whom $h*t on him back home !
Love it when my ancestors are key figures. Descendant of Col James Rogers.
Dr. Scott Lucas has single handedly altered the course of the Ohio in his statement about George Washington's path to Pittsburgh!
Love the mispronunciations and twice the use of an engraving showing the attack on Fort Moultrie in Charleston, SC for the attack on the French.
I’m fluent in Athabaskan Language (Navajo) our cousins in Canada have a sort of ‘French Accent’ when I listen to them. They seem to have some French words too. Here in the Southwest there is Spanish words in our language as well as the Apache folks. My grandparents didn’t know a word of English (Only Bad Words) but they could speak some Spanish and Hopi (Uto-Aztecan). Native Americans spoke many different languages including European languages very well back in the day. There were sign languages as well, leaders would use sign languages to communicate with each other, and only if you were chosen to be a leader you were taught the sign languages. When leaders met with leaders from other tribes it was important to know sign fluently to keep outsiders from knowing your conversations. Then there was sign language for Warfighters much different than politics. Even women had their own sign language from what I understand. I believe all tribes had these abilities in ancient times, but all is forgotten.
You are literally a walking cliché.
I need a way to cut out the music, or make it .quieter, I can't follow along well.
Woe, this doc is old! Maybe it's time for someone to make another one.
A lot of Canadian’s still speak French.
America learned how to fight in that war, and have carried the lessons forward to this day.Robert Rogers of Roger's Rangers wrote the book that U.S. Army Rangers follow. Tep this war, that started the Revolution and the war of 1812 both need more attention.
Crazy how times change so rapidly, from enemies to best friends. The Rangers were modelled after the British Commandos and took their playbook from a Loyalist unit of Rangers (Rogers) who themselves were formed to copy and counter French-Canadian Raiders. The entire continent is famous as a breeding ground for the more modern ways of war, suprise speed and violence was the playbook for those early raiders in New France and modern day Special Operations around the globe carry those traditions forward 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇨🇦🇺🇲
Imagine being 22 years old and deciding the fate of the new world order.
Nice!
I don’t want to ruin the ending but seeing as this documentary is in English, not French, is abit of a giveaway
Imagine putting 21st Century battle implements into the hands of these 18th Century Warriors.
I mean this is just awesome.. actual video footage 6:20!! I can’t believe it! Awesome!
Interviewing Stuart Reid? There goes your legitimacy.
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That is the South Carolina flag that sgt.Jasper flew over Ft.Moultre in the Revolution.
Quite the butchering of place names like Appalachia and Monongahela.
Poorly educated fools.
The background music is way too loud and distracts from understanding the narration. I could not watch the video.
Interestingly enough, the Mohawk, Chickasaw, and the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy were opposed to the French colonials and had a working relationship with the British empire. Probably because the British empire despite being a colonial imposition also had a better concept of colonial boundaries.
They were aligned with the English, so calling it "French and Indian war" is a misnomer, there were Indians who preferred the British as an ally.
While Braddock is sometimes unfairly portrayed as an arrogant idiot, that description was sometimes true about other senior British commanders (Abercrombie, et al.). I still like the theme that leads to the winning of the war; ordinary king agrees out of self-interest to let extraordinary minister (Pitt the Elder) run the war, minister gets resources the key theater (North America and the Carribean) and gives them to intelligent commanders (Amherst, Wolfe, Forbes) with a clear battle plan to win the war. Only problem, once war won overseas, new king gets rid of minister and cuts off support for nation's key continental ally (Frederick the Great, who would remember the offense in 1776+), giving enemy forces time to recover and hold on to a few items in ultimate peace agreement.
I was born in a little place called Cumberland, Maryland. George Washington had headquarters located there and there is still a road named Braddock Road.
I've stood where the sign that speaks of Braddock"s death. It's quite moving, well it was to me as a kid before I joined the military and witnessed death and destruction on a daily basis.
I was a sniper and served only a short time in the regular military before being seconded to another government unit where my particular skills were in high demand.
In my capacity, I traveled the globe reigning death on tyrants, warlords, and drug lords wherever I was sent. To some people, my duties sound horrific, but I believed in my mission and still stand by it.
Your comments were insightful. Thank you.
shout out to the dmv!
I have little argument with this - except - pronunciation! Alleghany, Monongahela, Ticonderoga. I may have missed a couple. Just - a pet peeve.
I am an American of French Canadian extraction. My firth great grandfather fought on the French side of this war. I suspect my New England maternal side did also since I trace it back to the same time and a prominent Revolutionary War name - Custis/Lee. After the war, the British then engaged in the suppression of the French Canadians, even a terror campaign. This caused the problem of separatist Quebec that simmers to this day.
Bah...c'est pas demain la veille qu'on se séparera...on restera des bons sujets de "Sa Majesté"
Imagine a French speaking USA J'etais comme, lol, George Washington serving in The British army and accepting the Kings coin., oh the irony. excellent documentary.
'...wherever civilization spreads, war inevitably follows?...don't say much for civilization does it?
Allegheny, Monongahela……original pronunciations there 😂As a Pittsburgh native, I take offense
No one cares
The mis pronounciation of locations and names is annoying. Other than that, very good!
It certainly lesson's the credibility of narrator , what else have they got wrong ?
Don’t you mean “lessens”?
@@TerraChaos Perhaps , but you can't tell when I say it , only when I spell it.
the music is drowning out the narraration and its annoying
Not to mention watching grown men play army and dress up for half of it
Would like to add one thing I feel to be important; the French taught the natives how to scalp. They would scalp them, and they retaliated in kind. Thats how that got started
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Here is my question: what is the connection between the 7-year War and the French and Indian War?
They're the same war. French and Indian War is just a different theater of the war.
Rogers rangers were formed
To fight french and indians
Northwest passage novel
Tells of their exploits
Especially the St Francis raid!
Wasn't called "Canada" ... It was called "La Nouvelle FRance"
how about removing the double sound track ?
I appreciate this documentary but we don't need music from the 1920s like it's a silent picture show. And turn down the sound of a the music.
The music is too loud.
Does anyone know what year this documentary was made?
There was warfare long before civilization
The background noise sucks. Stopping 2 min in.
amazing since supposedly they didn't have a timepiece good enough to keep up with Longitude until the 1750's . gvt offered up a cash prize to anyone who could invent it around 1714.
The problem was something that would work on a ship underway
9:06 Monongayla River? Is the narrator for this CGI?
Why doesn’t anyone talk about Ft De Chartres and Ft Massac?
interesting video but cannot hear the narrator over all the music.
So let me get something straight. The colonists (the ones that fought for America’s independence), were they considered part of “the british” or were they their own separate thing (known as “America”) before they gained their independence? It’s all so confusing to me. You had the british, the French and the native Indians all fighting for territory, so how did the colonists fit into this? Were they British? Were they French? Were they a free people? Or were they essentially slaves? Sorry I’m not well versed in American history.
Britain says these people are criminals and rich people
Yes lol, Washington was of good British stock from North East England.
What was know as the thirteen colonies were under British rule, the Canadians what is now Ontario Canada and some of western NY, Michigan and down the mississippi river to Lousiana, were French controlled. The Indian also know as the 7 nations and other Indian nations from out west live in mostly New York, Pennsylvania and some in upper Canada (southern Ontario). The colonist formed there own Militia regiments that fought along side the professional soldiers that came from there respective nations. The indians sided with the nations who they thought would win the war at the time. At the beginning of the war most indians fought for the French, but as the French lost more and more lands to the british the indians started to side with the British. As for the colonist themselves by the time of the French and Indian wars they were people who either fled Britian from religous persecution, criminals who were banshed to the Americas or other who were looking for business opportunities (the new trade markets) or trying to get out of Europes poor society to start new lives. The French came for similar reasons. This didnt just happen in the America's it also happened throughout Caribbean islands, but you dont hear about this area until later on, with the stories about the Caribbean pirates.
The only "Americans" prior to The Revolution were the Indians. Until LIBERTY had been gained they were just "rebellious" English subjects.
Ironically if the French had won the Americans would never have rebelled. They'd have needed the British to keep protecting them
Everyone knows ghosts come out at night! 21:35
Well, at least the channel got the right program. The channel corrected its error.
The narrator has real issues pronouncing the names Monongahela and Allegheny. Someone get him a dictionary.
You should protest
Dr. Lucas, if George Washington did indeed pathfind up the Ohio to Pittsburgh, why did he bypass his goal to approach from the west?
The fact is; he did not follow the Ohio up to "The Forks", He came across the mountains of Virginia, making stops at: Fredricksburg; Alexandria; and Winchester before reaching Will's Creek where the Ohio Company (a trading outfit) had a large storehouse. This; BTW, in the middle of Nov. through rain and snow.
Also called The 7 Years War
Not to disparrage or take away from the quality of this video...but is this narrator not Futurama's Doctor Farnsworth or what?
Why are Europeans portraying Indians
This is hilarious 😂😂😂
Assassin's Creed 3 brought me here
The music is too loud; it drowns out the voice of the narrator.
While this presentation has some good context, it also lacks much background which would lend to a better understanding of just how brutal this war had become and also give attendees a better knowledge of how and why the colonists rebelled against England. Allen W. Eckert; in his book "Wilderness Empire" uses legal documents, letters, and records to bring home the truth of the settlement of the Ohio Valley. The authors' view of Washington is very biased and mis-leading.
Great but land maps would illustrate
The F&I war honestly started the earths First WW.