Fun fact: a decade ago all existing toys names' were assigned to releases up to 13 (which is current Testing), Toy Story 4 in 2019 was celebrated because the tradition could be prolonged further.
Yes, you're absolutely right! When Toy Story 4 was released in 2019, it introduced new characters, allowing this fun tradition to be extended even further. It’s great to see how a small homage like this has become a lasting part of Debian’s identity!
Honestly, the "ambient" music should be more ... well, ambient. When it fights with spoken word, it's rather disturbing than helping. About the 4:57 to 5:00 sounds like the right amount (everything before is simply too loud. Not sure what's next, I'm writing this during watching the video)
Nice to see the history of the distro I use since version 3, but a few notes: The development version Sid is called after the boy in toy story that destroys toys, hence Sid is always the unstable version that breaks a lot. The other are more related to the video style. The background noise at around the 14 minute mark is horrible and the music at the end gives the feeling the Debian project failed and is dead. Thank you for your efforts anyway!
Slink was the release that I begun my Debian journey that I am still on with. Had no idea it was also the first release with apt. Is the full talk by Ian Murdock available on TH-cam or elsewhere?
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the comment. Well, you're a long-time Debian user... here's the video you were looking for: th-cam.com/video/nyL2Fx0iNZ0/w-d-xo.html
Very informative, thanks. I am quite new to this (technical discussions of Linux), and I wonder what "architecture" is in this context. I use Mint on an old Macbook , which is very good, and am just about to try Debian 12.
Thank you :) It's great to hear you're using Mint on your MacBook, and trying Debian 12 is an exciting step. In this context, "architecture" refers to the type of computer hardware your system is built on. For example, common architectures include x86_64 (for most modern computers), ARM (for smartphones or Raspberry Pi), and PowerPC (which some older Macs used). Different architectures have different instruction sets, meaning the way the processor handles tasks is unique to each. When installing Debian or any Linux distribution, it's important to choose the right architecture for your hardware. Since you’re using an older MacBook, make sure to verify whether it's running on an Intel-based processor (x86_64 ). Luckily, Debian supports a wide variety of architectures, so you should be good to go! I hope this helps, and enjoy your journey with Debian 12!
@@YouTuxChannel Thanks for explaining architecture, and its relevance to choosing a distro type. Yes, I knew just enough to make sure I got the right debian for my old macbook (Intel) and to verify the image checksum (and even the checksum check with gpg), which I had to learn a couple of years back when installing Mint. Though I have only run the debian live boot from USB so far, even that seems lighter or faster than Mint on both my old macbook and my wife's 2018 Lenovo ideapad 330. And Mint, in turn, runs better then OS X 10 / Windows 7 on the old macbook. Thanks again.
I love Ubuntu but i respect Debian so much. It's like a father and grandfather relationship. Kind of discovering how this family comes to be. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for your comment, I really appreciate your opinion! While I have a lot of respect for Ubuntu and what it has brought to the Linux world, I see Debian and Ubuntu a bit differently. Debian has contributed enormously to open source, whereas Ubuntu, while introducing innovations like ease of use, has in recent years taken a more independent path with technologies like Unity, Upstart, and Snap. It’s an interesting debate, and in the end, it enriches the Linux landscape!
I have used Debian since 2002 (3.0 Woody). Out of curiosity, I have over the years tried a bunch of live versions of other distros (Mint, Suse, Arch, and some of the smaller ones) ... but Daddy is still the best. Stuff _just works_ under Debian, and since I do not require bleeding-edge hardware or niche applications, I don't see myself switching distros, ever. The one single negative point I can think of is ... the website (shocker). I believe we can all agree it is an abomination, lol. However ... Great OS + Crappy Website > Crappy OS + Great Website. Right?
The distributions you mentioned are excellent, among the best in my opinion, and the best in specific fields. Debian is versatile and universal, a serious and professional project. You know, I feel the same way! In terms of marketing and image, there's still a lot of work to be done. Yes, the website absolutely needs improvement, especially the download page. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn't know Linux: they would be quite overwhelmed by the number of Debian versions and especially by the challenge of finding a specific one. There isn't a serious merchandising effort. Many times I wanted to buy Debian items or clothing, but the website redirects to external services that are often poor and low-quality. And don't even get me started on the donations page.
@@YouTuxChannel lol, the website is not only confusing for new users ... I have been using Debian for 22 years now, and every time I search for the checksums of the ISO I downloaded, I spend five minutes cursing. The images themselves are very easy to find, it's one click ... but try to verify them, and you will learn what true frustration feels like. Fortunately you only need checksums very rarely, and once you are done circle-clicking, you can bookmark (at least for that specific release) ... but it is baffling how a team that can put together such a superior OS at the same time manages to have a website that looks like a middle school project. Ah, I guess it is just a part of the charm: the full _Debian Experience_ 😁
I'm glad you liked it. I know that in some parts, the music in the video is too loud, but I can't change it anymore-or at least, I can't figure out how
Debian Sid Cinnamon is my daily driver, though I keep Ubuntu Cinnamon up to date for my secondary. Nice documentary. Funny that the AI narrator pronounces Debian 3 different ways, sometimes in the same sentence.
Just installed this distro in July 30th, 2024, and gonna learn more exploring it. This distro is gonna be my "starting place" as well as my everlasting "home". I do not like distro-hopping.
I think I'm detecting text to speech software. The power move would've been to narrate this with the built-in screen reader. I was installing debian once and waited too long at the prompt, and it automatically selected the install with the screen reader enabled. If you haven't ever used the default screen reader, it's incredibly robotic sounding. Which is a plus to me.
Linux Mint is indeed an excellent choice for beginners, known for its user-friendly interface, ease of use, and out-of-the-box functionality. It's based also on Debian, making Mint part of the large Debian family. Debian is... "The Distro" :)
RIP Ian Murdock My first version of Debian is Hamm. Calling Openstack a cloud company is strange, Openstack is open source project for building clouds. Surprised you didn't talk about reproducibility (which is shown in the video) as Debian is 1 of the leading projects. PS at 3:23 you have Slackaware at the bottom, is that a typo ?
Thank you for your comment and for sharing your experience with Debian, starting with Hamm! You’re absolutely right-calling OpenStack a cloud company was a bit imprecise on my part. As you pointed out, it is indeed an open-source project for building clouds, and I appreciate you catching that. Regarding reproducibility, I completely agree! Debian is indeed a leader in this area, and I should have given it more attention. It's a crucial aspect of the project that showcases Debian’s commitment to reliability and consistency. As for the typo at 3:23, yes, "Slackaware" was an oversight. It should, of course, be "Slackware." Thanks for pointing that out, unfortunately i can't correct :( Again, thank you for your valuable feedback! I’m glad you enjoyed the video, and I’ll strive to make future content even more accurate and informative.
@@autohmae Thank you, I'm glad you appreciated it. Even though it's not perfect and deserves improvements, including in the editing, I believe there's no other video as comprehensive about the history of Debian.
In the space of a few minutes I have heard 3 pronunciations of Debian: DEEbian, DAYbian, and DEBian. Which is it and why do you change? The video would also be better without music, which adds nothing and is too loud. Otherwise thanks for the video.
Interesting video and thanks for putting in the effort. In the future I suggest you have someone proofread (watch) the content before you go public if possible. There were a number of errors that detract from the underlying value. (first graphical installer was text installer, Bruce Perens owned Progeny, year Bookworm was introduced among others.) And I found it odd that the Ubuntu startup music introduced the Video. My first use of Debian was late 90s but I can't recall which was first. ISTR a version number 0.9x but I don't recall if that was the kernel version or the distro version. Thank you and thank Debian and all who make it work.
Thank you for your comment . The Ubuntu startup music. it's just part of the channel's intro and appears in all the videos, so it's not specific to this content. As for the relationship between Bruce Perens and Progeny, I don't think I mentioned it in the video, but there may have been some ambiguity. I agree that perfection is an important goal, and I would love to make the corrections, but unfortunately, the only way would be to delete the video and re-upload it. However, I think these are details that can be improved over time, and I appreciate that you pointed them out. Comments like yours are valuable because they help improve the content and make the videos more accurate for everyone.
pretty sure this is another YT AI-generated channel but I'll give it a go. I've already seen one video where they incorrectly numbered the next release of Debian. AI is still finding its feet.
Only the voice is artificial, the script was entirely written by me and there aren't any inconsistencies like the ones you're saying. If there are comments, it's only because of some details that only a few people truly inside the Debian story know about that I missed. Anyway, thanks for the comment.
@@YouTuxChannel I was referring to the incorrect version number in the video "The Future of Debian" which you already noted in the description on that video. Keep up the good work!
Whew this video is a mess in terms of editing, narration and style. The contents is great though. Thank you. But please take a class on video editing and story telling will ya!
It’s one of the first videos I made, so I don’t deny that it’s mediocre in terms of editing and narrative structure. Thanks for the harsh but constructive criticism. Check out the second doc I made: th-cam.com/video/2LhLt5cvyaM/w-d-xo.html you can’t deny that, from a purely technical point of view, it’s an improvement.
Thank you for your comment! Yes, there are some AI-generated images in the video, and sometimes they can have discrepancies in the text. This is one of my early projects, and I’m working to improve thanks to feedback like yours. The content of the video, including the research and passion for the topic, is my own work. The only AI-generated elements are some images and the voice. Thanks again for your support and suggestions!
Thank You Debian Community for giving us humane, reliable, secured, and stable Linux Distro
Thanks for the comment:)
Fun fact: a decade ago all existing toys names' were assigned to releases up to 13 (which is current Testing), Toy Story 4 in 2019 was celebrated because the tradition could be prolonged further.
Yes, you're absolutely right!
When Toy Story 4 was released in 2019, it introduced new characters, allowing this fun tradition to be extended even further. It’s great to see how a small homage like this has become a lasting part of Debian’s identity!
Honestly, the "ambient" music should be more ... well, ambient. When it fights with spoken word, it's rather disturbing than helping. About the 4:57 to 5:00 sounds like the right amount (everything before is simply too loud. Not sure what's next, I'm writing this during watching the video)
my favorite linux distro!
That's awesome! Debian Lenny is a fantastic place to have started. ;)
Nice to see the history of the distro I use since version 3, but a few notes: The development version Sid is called after the boy in toy story that destroys toys, hence Sid is always the unstable version that breaks a lot.
The other are more related to the video style. The background noise at around the 14 minute mark is horrible and the music at the end gives the feeling the Debian project failed and is dead. Thank you for your efforts anyway!
The music was way too loud.
RIP Ian
Slink was the release that I begun my Debian journey that I am still on with. Had no idea it was also the first release with apt.
Is the full talk by Ian Murdock available on TH-cam or elsewhere?
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the comment. Well, you're a long-time Debian user... here's the video you were looking for:
th-cam.com/video/nyL2Fx0iNZ0/w-d-xo.html
Background music is mixed too loud.
First time watching this channel. The old Ubuntu startup sound was such a blast from the past!
when Ubuntu used to make that sound, it was a whole different vibe ;)
Great video, my advice for your next one is to focus on your voice-over, it was pretty hard to understand, i had to turn the volume way up.
Thanks for your comment and suggestion! i will ;)
Agreed, the loud background music made it much harder as well. Better audio mixing would help a lot.@@YouTuxChannel
Very informative, thanks.
I am quite new to this (technical discussions of Linux), and I wonder what "architecture" is in this context.
I use Mint on an old Macbook , which is very good, and am just about to try Debian 12.
Thank you :) It's great to hear you're using Mint on your MacBook, and trying Debian 12 is an exciting step.
In this context, "architecture" refers to the type of computer hardware your system is built on. For example, common architectures include x86_64 (for most modern computers), ARM (for smartphones or Raspberry Pi), and PowerPC (which some older Macs used). Different architectures have different instruction sets, meaning the way the processor handles tasks is unique to each.
When installing Debian or any Linux distribution, it's important to choose the right architecture for your hardware. Since you’re using an older MacBook, make sure to verify whether it's running on an Intel-based processor (x86_64 ). Luckily, Debian supports a wide variety of architectures, so you should be good to go!
I hope this helps, and enjoy your journey with Debian 12!
@@YouTuxChannel Thanks for explaining architecture, and its relevance to choosing a distro type. Yes, I knew just enough to make sure I got the right debian for my old macbook (Intel) and to verify the image checksum (and even the checksum check with gpg), which I had to learn a couple of years back when installing Mint. Though I have only run the debian live boot from USB so far, even that seems lighter or faster than Mint on both my old macbook and my wife's 2018 Lenovo ideapad 330. And Mint, in turn, runs better then OS X 10 / Windows 7 on the old macbook.
Thanks again.
I love Ubuntu but i respect Debian so much. It's like a father and grandfather relationship. Kind of discovering how this family comes to be. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for your comment, I really appreciate your opinion! While I have a lot of respect for Ubuntu and what it has brought to the Linux world, I see Debian and Ubuntu a bit differently. Debian has contributed enormously to open source, whereas Ubuntu, while introducing innovations like ease of use, has in recent years taken a more independent path with technologies like Unity, Upstart, and Snap. It’s an interesting debate, and in the end, it enriches the Linux landscape!
I have used Debian since 2002 (3.0 Woody).
Out of curiosity, I have over the years tried a bunch of live versions of other distros (Mint, Suse, Arch, and some of the smaller ones) ... but Daddy is still the best.
Stuff _just works_ under Debian, and since I do not require bleeding-edge hardware or niche applications, I don't see myself switching distros, ever.
The one single negative point I can think of is ... the website (shocker). I believe we can all agree it is an abomination, lol.
However ... Great OS + Crappy Website > Crappy OS + Great Website. Right?
The distributions you mentioned are excellent, among the best in my opinion, and the best in specific fields. Debian is versatile and universal, a serious and professional project. You know, I feel the same way! In terms of marketing and image, there's still a lot of work to be done. Yes, the website absolutely needs improvement, especially the download page. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn't know Linux: they would be quite overwhelmed by the number of Debian versions and especially by the challenge of finding a specific one. There isn't a serious merchandising effort. Many times I wanted to buy Debian items or clothing, but the website redirects to external services that are often poor and low-quality. And don't even get me started on the donations page.
@@YouTuxChannel lol, the website is not only confusing for new users ... I have been using Debian for 22 years now, and every time I search for the checksums of the ISO I downloaded, I spend five minutes cursing. The images themselves are very easy to find, it's one click ... but try to verify them, and you will learn what true frustration feels like.
Fortunately you only need checksums very rarely, and once you are done circle-clicking, you can bookmark (at least for that specific release) ... but it is baffling how a team that can put together such a superior OS at the same time manages to have a website that looks like a middle school project.
Ah, I guess it is just a part of the charm: the full _Debian Experience_ 😁
Great video! I am old time user of debian, Suggest toning down the music
I'm glad you liked it. I know that in some parts, the music in the video is too loud, but I can't change it anymore-or at least, I can't figure out how
great video
Thanks!
Debian Sid Cinnamon is my daily driver, though I keep Ubuntu Cinnamon up to date for my secondary. Nice documentary. Funny that the AI narrator pronounces Debian 3 different ways, sometimes in the same sentence.
Just installed this distro in July 30th, 2024, and gonna learn more exploring it.
This distro is gonna be my "starting place" as well as my everlasting "home". I do not like distro-hopping.
I've been on debian for 8 years, you'll like it here :)
@@idliketointerject9209 Thanks! The only obstacle for me to being a true "Debianite" is the truth that I have to work under Windows...
Thank you, it is very interesting
Fix the music. Use limiter and compressor.
I think I'm detecting text to speech software. The power move would've been to narrate this with the built-in screen reader. I was installing debian once and waited too long at the prompt, and it automatically selected the install with the screen reader enabled. If you haven't ever used the default screen reader, it's incredibly robotic sounding. Which is a plus to me.
I think I am detecting a high school project in Media...
Debian is The Way. My first Linux was Mint and then after I learned some, I went straight to Debian.
Linux Mint is indeed an excellent choice for beginners, known for its user-friendly interface, ease of use, and out-of-the-box functionality. It's based also on Debian, making Mint part of the large Debian family. Debian is... "The Distro" :)
@@YouTuxChannel damn right it is. This is The Way.
Thx debian, RIP Murdock
I used debian server for my small shop website.
RIP Ian Murdock
My first version of Debian is Hamm.
Calling Openstack a cloud company is strange, Openstack is open source project for building clouds.
Surprised you didn't talk about reproducibility (which is shown in the video) as Debian is 1 of the leading projects.
PS at 3:23 you have Slackaware at the bottom, is that a typo ?
Thank you for your comment and for sharing your experience with Debian, starting with Hamm! You’re absolutely right-calling OpenStack a cloud company was a bit imprecise on my part. As you pointed out, it is indeed an open-source project for building clouds, and I appreciate you catching that.
Regarding reproducibility, I completely agree! Debian is indeed a leader in this area, and I should have given it more attention. It's a crucial aspect of the project that showcases Debian’s commitment to reliability and consistency.
As for the typo at 3:23, yes, "Slackaware" was an oversight. It should, of course, be "Slackware." Thanks for pointing that out, unfortunately i can't correct :(
Again, thank you for your valuable feedback! I’m glad you enjoyed the video, and I’ll strive to make future content even more accurate and informative.
@@YouTuxChannel still a pretty good video though
@@autohmae Thank you, I'm glad you appreciated it. Even though it's not perfect and deserves improvements, including in the editing, I believe there's no other video as comprehensive about the history of Debian.
In the space of a few minutes I have heard 3 pronunciations of Debian: DEEbian, DAYbian, and DEBian. Which is it and why do you change? The video would also be better without music, which adds nothing and is too loud. Otherwise thanks for the video.
Interesting video and thanks for putting in the effort. In the future I suggest you have someone proofread (watch) the content before you go public if possible. There were a number of errors that detract from the underlying value. (first graphical installer was text installer, Bruce Perens owned Progeny, year Bookworm was introduced among others.) And I found it odd that the Ubuntu startup music introduced the Video. My first use of Debian was late 90s but I can't recall which was first. ISTR a version number 0.9x but I don't recall if that was the kernel version or the distro version.
Thank you and thank Debian and all who make it work.
Thank you for your comment . The Ubuntu startup music. it's just part of the channel's intro and appears in all the videos, so it's not specific to this content. As for the relationship between Bruce Perens and Progeny, I don't think I mentioned it in the video, but there may have been some ambiguity.
I agree that perfection is an important goal, and I would love to make the corrections, but unfortunately, the only way would be to delete the video and re-upload it. However, I think these are details that can be improved over time, and I appreciate that you pointed them out. Comments like yours are valuable because they help improve the content and make the videos more accurate for everyone.
Debian is the Linux.
00:00 - 1:34 POV: 2002 Camera
Feels like AI helped s lot for this video
Best distro
Thank you, cowboy. It's sad to say "Good bye, cowboy."
pretty sure this is another YT AI-generated channel but I'll give it a go. I've already seen one video where they incorrectly numbered the next release of Debian. AI is still finding its feet.
Only the voice is artificial, the script was entirely written by me and there aren't any inconsistencies like the ones you're saying. If there are comments, it's only because of some details that only a few people truly inside the Debian story know about that I missed.
Anyway, thanks for the comment.
@@YouTuxChannel I was referring to the incorrect version number in the video "The Future of Debian" which you already noted in the description on that video. Keep up the good work!
Whew this video is a mess in terms of editing, narration and style. The contents is great though. Thank you. But please take a class on video editing and story telling will ya!
It’s one of the first videos I made, so I don’t deny that it’s mediocre in terms of editing and narrative structure. Thanks for the harsh but constructive criticism. Check out the second doc I made:
th-cam.com/video/2LhLt5cvyaM/w-d-xo.html
you can’t deny that, from a purely technical point of view, it’s an improvement.
Very good documentary, but please, it's debian, not deebian. These inconsistencies show that this is AI.
Thank you for your comment! Yes, there are some AI-generated images in the video, and sometimes they can have discrepancies in the text. This is one of my early projects, and I’m working to improve thanks to feedback like yours. The content of the video, including the research and passion for the topic, is my own work. The only AI-generated elements are some images and the voice. Thanks again for your support and suggestions!