My uncle was claptons gardner many years ago where he lives in cranleigh i used to go and help out sometimes with the gardning clapton would always bring us coffee and cakes i had a few spontaneous guitar lessons in the garden 👍
As is so often the way, the person villified in the media, and thereby in public consciousness (who is only hated because they told the truth about something there weren't supposed to) is actually a total gent in person. The price for integrity is often a bad reputation. I salute Eric Clapton, a truly great Briton.
Nothing will ever lessen my love for Led Zeppelin. Their music to ME is the greatest I’ve ever heard. Still, I really do respect Eric’s own view on things, same with Pete Townsend and Keith Richard’s. Zeppelin came in with the greatest line up ever and blew them all out the water in every direction and stole all their thunder. I’d be pretty pissed off too tbh 😂
I agree about Madonna and The Grateful Dead. With Led Zep it sounds like he was talking about hearing them live. In this case, I can see his point. They were unbelievably loud. But on the stereo, they were killer.
Zep didn't take anything. Page and Beck recorded Beck's Bolero in early '66. They were the inventors of this heavy sound. Cream knew all about Page and Beck. Page had been playing inventive guitar music in all his session work while Clapton played straight blues. Cream stole the heavy sound from Page and Beck.
@@terrymay8114 The Stones more diverse than Zeppelin? When did the Stones ever produce anything as good or mysterious as Rain Song, No Quarter, Kashmir or Achilles Last Stand? It began and ended with the blues, and they did it really well.
What a strange video. The quotes are Clapton's, but if you didn't know the voice over (and presumably, the video of him speaking) was AI, you'd think that he just said these things recently, instead of throughout his career. It does change the context quite a bit.
Thanks for pointing this out. I found it strange that a Clapton who looks like he's in his 80s finds it necessary to grumble about led zep. Now it makes sense, this was back in the day but the AI was trained on his current day talking voice😊
Thanks for pointing out the AI thing because none of this made sense as he's talking about these bands as if it were more the present day (meaning some supposed interview in recent times).
I can see why he might say that, or Townsend also didn't like them, or Hendrix, even Ian Anderson didn't like some aspects (lyrics) so I'm not sure it was jealousy, I can see where the criticism is coming from, but at the same time LZ end product was so good that they would simply tower above these small issues. Critics said at first LZ is just like Cream, but worse. I would say but better - maybe just a matter of taste. And after the first album they were nothing alike.
Jealousy of course! Townshend, Hendrix and Clapton and Dylan and Keith Richards and The Beatles. All these - the BIGGEST names in Rock didn't care for Zeppelin and it was, jealousy. What? LOL.
@@trespasser121 Understand that when opining, these other musicians were sometimes masking their jealousy or envy by mentioning/picking at technical aspects of Zepp, but to most of those listening, it didn't really hide the obvious. The force with which Zepp hit the scene, I can only equate it to like when people first heard Eddie do "Eruption"... Most everybody knows where they were and what they were doing, just like those who are old enough to remember the first time hearing Good Times Bad Times, or Heartbreaker... It was sorta like that... Just different times...
I shouldn't really have any problems, after all EVERYTHING is a matter of opinions, whether those agree or not, or have problems or not. There are at least two sides to everything.
There are some criticisms of Eric Clapton as well- and great as he is, his voice could have been a little stronger. A lot of great music, but a little more power in his voice would have made it even better. The fix seems easy, too- I'm not an expert, but it seems like the parts where his voice was weaker he was running low on breath- he just needed a little guidance from a good music teacher on having enough air when it is needed to get his voice to be stronger I think. I discussed this with a successful singer and she agreed. IN most cases this is the issue when people need more power, then you just need to practice with more power.
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The guy who played so loud in Cream, that he was temporarily deaf says Zeppelin played too loud. He said that when he played the solo on Crossroad he couldn't really hear what he was playing. But Zep is unnecessarily loud. Right!!
@@Autorange888 Back in the 70s most bands were too loud. Certainly the stadium shows were too loud. My sister was at a summer jam in arrowhead stadium and was ready to leave early because it was so loud she couldn't tell what song was being played. Her friend wanted to stay until the band played her favorite song. My sister pointed out that they were playing that song right now. Her friend said Oh. OK lets go. I could hear that show half a mile away better than the people at the concert could.
@@onusgumboot5565 I went and saw Deep Purple play on the Perfect Strangers tour and it was too loud. I couldn't enjoy it and I like loud music but it was way above my pain threshold in our seating area.
Oasis yes - Madonna: Well, the early years were so-so and I really prefer classical (Chopin mainly), Radiohead, Prog, etc but the Ray Of Light and Like A Prayer albums are unquestionably good. He is right about the production and packaging; the production with William Orbit was good. I also feel she is passionate about music which sits well with me. Just a shame the non singing stuff that comes out of her mouth can get her in trouble even though I see through it ;-) Led Zep aren't that good live but on vinyl they are truly excellent.
Clapton is one of the most unoriginal people around. He just wanted to play pure blues, when others wanted to make changes, he wanted out. Most of his playing and singing is completely without passion. His best work was in the Derek and the Dominoes where they pushed him to show some life. That gave a clue as to what he could have done if he wasn't half-dead as a human. Even there even he was somewhat overshadowed by Duane Allman. Clapton's solo career is about as boring and mainstream as you could get. There's a reason why he's popular with so many that don't care about rock 'n roll at all.
@@stickman1742 I wholeheartedly agree with everything that you stated. It is clear for all to see that Eric resents Jimmy Pages huge success With Zeppelin. You hear it in his voice. Yet Jimmy has remained rather humble and personable.
after ten minutes of hearing him play I'm bored shitless, no matter what guitar he plays, Gibson or Strat, what music he plays it sounds identical, he just goes on and on, no improvisation, just blues he ripped off from other artists.
LZ was loud bcuz the music was tactile as well as auditory. The listener is meant to literally feel the music on the skin and bones. Not just feel it in your soul. Mr Jimi also had this quality.
many bands were LOUD in late 60's & 70's - Deep Purple & The Who were legendary for their ear-melting shows - AC/DC - Motörhead - KISS - all were set to volume level 11 - or higher - one show for me in 1980 - Black Sabbath (with Dio on vocals ) - was extraordinarily loud - it was a co-headlining tour with Blue Öyster Cult - some bad blood between the bands - BÖC was as loud as they needed to be - but Sabbath felt the need to be twice as loud - my ears are still ringing from that one ..
Given that Page was far superior to Clapton as a guitarist, and that Eric had few songs that matched Led Zep, for him to say that Zep failed to match Cream, and he didn't like what Page did with them, seems weak at best. Criticizing other players, he sounds like a brat kid downing players that outshone him. Clapton is overrated and irrelevant now. No one wants to hear his lame opinions.
Cream was in their era a hard rock band who came before zeplin, obviously they weren't as loud as zeplin. Should cream have played louder than they did then?
@@AntonioBarsanio In short what I am say is that in Clapton's opinion Zeplin were too loud. Cream were a heavy rock band in the era before Zeplin. You said what did he expect, because they were a heavy rock band. So he is saying, even for a heavy rock band they were playing too loud. He should know given he was in a heavy rock band before they existed. Unless you don't class Cream as heavy rock? That is his informed opinion, he thinks they didn't need to be that loud in order to convey their message and emotions. Your opinion is obviously different, to which you are entitled, as equally is Clapton to his opinion.
@@mister.costello Clapton is a Master at what he does but that doesn't mean he can err. George Harrison said that he disliked Neil Young, The Hollies, etc. Do I agree with George? Hell no! He is a legend but again his opinion means nothing to me. Zeppelin was loud, so was ACDC. Without the loudness they would not be what they were. Clapton can have his opinions but the public would not agree with him at all!
@@AntonioBarsanio The thing is, Clapton was there and listened to them live during that era, most of the public, and I am guessing yourself didn't. Therefore most of the public don't have any validation to argue against him. I get your defense for Zep, a very important band in music history. Cream was by all accounts a loud band, so for Clapton to say that, must have some truth to it. You could argue he is jealous, but why would he be? He is still out there doing it, perhaps not to the standard he did from the mid eighties to about 2015. I get you, you're defending Zep and I am defending Clapton. Either way I think we both appreciate them both, so at the end of the day what does it really matter.
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@@nogbadthebad2609 yet Clapton is worth three times more than both Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, not sure where the jealousy part comes in here. And you do know Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton are still very good friends? Being a Led Zeppelin fan, you probably know nothing.And yes in the last four years, the media has tried to portray Clapton as going against the norm, (which that’s what rock ‘n’ roll is all about) but he comes off as bitter. If anything, Jack Bruce is a 10 times more bitter person than Eric Clapton and I love Jack Bruce. Eric Clapton was the one person in cream of the three, who wasn’t getting into punching fights every day and on stage. And the only person tolerated in frame by both Bruce and Baker was Eric Clapton. But then again, all 4 Zeps all hated each other. And still hate each other. The jealousy thing is used all the time in the six months I’ve been in hear. When it’s Page & Plant that are unbelievably jealous of Eric Clapton‘s vast wealth and success for 60 years that started at almost the Kennedy administration. And the vast talent of three unbelievable musicians getting together was Cream, and there would be no LZ without them.And the most talented of any for musicians were inna little known band then we’re called the Beatles. My guess is you think Paul McCartney, Harrison and Lennon were all jealous of the Zeps. It’s to bad LZ didn’t throw out Page and get a guitarist with the talent of John McLaughlin , Allan Holdsworth why don’t you add in a guy who was more interested in the blues like Sonny Landreth. With either of those three guitarist’s Led Zeppelin might have been able to make some interesting music.
@@nogbadthebad2609 Clapton was never a bitter person. He was quiet and he was introspective, and you need an ego to succeed in the music business, -Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker as much as I love them both as musicians who we’re always bitter people, Jack not as much as Ginger but Jack was way more of a bitter person than Eric. That’s why it was Jack and Ginger getting into yelling arguments all the time, which would very frequently break into those fist fights I mentioned in my last text, sometimes breaking out into fist fights in the middle of concerts. That is 1 of the 3 reasons Eric Clapton left cream, (besides wanting to be more like what Robbie Robertson n what Robbie turned himself into by 1968 instead of a former frenzied guitarist player with the Hawks n even on the so called “Dylan-The Band basement tapes”as Robbie was 1 of the very first to turn it up to 10 Robbie was also one of the very first if not, the first to turn it back down when everybody had it up to 10.) And became a great songwriter. n the 3rd being Clapton quit Cream was the Rolling stone article. He never came off as bitter that all you Clapton haters love to now call him. I’m not a kid and I’m not a millennial, I listened n (good forgive me) but i both listened n played the greedy Zeps music for the first 20+ years of my life. As im Old enough to remember when they were still making music if you wanna call it that, back in the Stone Age. But I grew up and part of growing up is you stop listening, and playing LZ’s music. You know what is your point? Are you trying to get people who loved Clapton their whole life not to like him? I just don’t get you you younger people at all. Listen to your crappy Zeppelin and shut the hell up! he has had an unbelievable solo career and if you don’t like Derek & The Dominos first album, you’re not a music fan, at least certainly not a rock - blues fan.
@@nogbadthebad2609 what does who Jack Bruce played with have to do with anything? so you want me to me to name with all the great musicians Eric Clapton has played with just over last year?? You have heard of Eric Clapton‘s crossroads concerts right? How about all the great musicians Clapton has played with over his career? Just think about everybody you know in the history of all the rock and blues, jazz fusion and every other genre of music who had been alive from 1964 till now Eric Clapton has played with. Goodbye.
Some interesting, but not vital solo music. Inspired playing with Cream and John Mayall. His rant really turned me off, though I still sometimes listen. He was influential in the '60s. It would appear that privilege affected his musical course.
@@privateprivate4378yes, they do belong in a sewer. Page's behavior in chasing after 14 year-old girls and ripping off American blues artists without giving them so much as a dime until facing litigation makes him a scummy person in my book, his amazing guitar skills notwithstanding.
Yes, I think he believes his own publicity too much, he can get very up himself sometimes. I well remember that rant at the audience he had, apparently he was pissed at the time, but there is some amount of arrogance in him that spills out on occasions.
@@HektorBandimar So you think British Multiculturalism hasn't been a dismal failure? That's not what British people on the internet seem to saying en masse.
What is the point with all this Led Zep bashing here on youtube ? They were a fantastic band with great songs and beautiful albums. Nothing more to say…
Loved Zeppelin. Saw them in 69. Great band. They followed in the footsteps that Cream started. Even liked it on Zeppelin III when they started mimicking some things that Jethro Tull was doing. Truly a great band.
Eric Clapton certainly has a right to his opinion and I happen to agree with him, except for Zed Zeppelin. IMHO, Zep always has had their own thing, just from the chemistry between their 4 hugely talented and creative band members.
Geniuses ? Zepplin was a rip-off plagiarism at it finest . Slow hand was more a blues based purist bringing it into prog /rock in cream . Clapton slowhand didn't have to devil worship to make himself successful either. Plants voice was nauseous whining also
Led Zep were geniuses at HYPE, nothing more. Stealing other artists songs and style and AMPING it up to no ends. But they do impress the easily impressionable. Geniuses? LOL
@@sammyrothrock6981 growing up a guitarist since the 1970s Jimmy page can’t touch Eric Clapton. And all Led Zeppelin did was rip off blues artist and never give them any credit not by their voices or with their money and Led Zeppelin that was written by the band they open for in the late 60s their name spirit, it’s their song, especially there song. Which the greedy zeps. I believe are still holding up from going to court for that lawsuit now the families of spirit or after zeppelin. No creativity and next to Neil Young(who I love his music) is the sloppiest guitarist I have ever heard on a stage
Cream was another famously "loud" band too. I wonder how Eric feels about those guys. Zeppelin is musically speaking a direct descendant of Cream as they were both loud, heavily improvisational, British blues bands. I actually find some of the Dead's studio work quite underrated. If anything, the Dead live is more of a mixed bag of either brilliance, or chemically influenced, aimless noodling.
Zep wasn't a descendent as Page and Beck were doing the heavy sound first. Beck's Bolero was recorded in early '66. All these guys knew each other. Page's playing on session was incredibly innovate. Clapton just played straight blues. Cream copied the heavy sound being created by Page and Beck.
@@stickman1742 cream created the heavy sound created by back and page you’re definitely living in your own world bro. It was Eric Clapton and Michael Bloomfield with the Paul Blairfield brews band on the other side of the Atlantic who created blues rock not Jeff Beck and Jimmy page. Sorry wrong.
Sad to hear Eric criticizing LZ. They were so much better than anyone else, stretching and experimenting all the while being incredibly musical. As a huge Clapton fan, I'm really disappointed. You're wrong on this Sir.
@@Mister_Pedantic And they always made it their own. Never did any of us mind.I like to think it was a sort of tribute to those bands and artists they admired.
@@scottcrowley2061 It wasn't a tribute. It was a scam. If it had been a tribute then LZ would have given a composer credit to the original artists without the legal system ordering them to. As it happened, they did eventually write some cheques. Cream performed "Crossroads" in concert with two lines from "Travelling Riverside Blues" added on. Eric Clapton gave himself an arranger credit but Robert Johnson was properly credited as the composer. It appeared on the "Wheels Of Fire" album.
Though it's pretty funny how Clapton, Townshend, Keith Richards, the ever complaining Roger Waters and others seem to have such strong feelings towards Page and LZ...might be 'cause they reigned supreme in the 70s 👑
true enough - but if LZ had one serious competitor throughout the 70's - it was Pink Floyd - and while Zep was hotter at the start of the decade - Floyd was arguably stronger at the end of the 70's - don't get me wrong - I love Zep - but I'd say Animals & The Wall are just better records than Presence & In Through the Out Door ..
Zepplin was a rip-off plagiarism at it finest . Slow hand was more a blues based purist bringing it into prog /rock in cream . Clapton slowhand didn't have to devil worship to make himself successful either. Plants voice was nauseous whining also
They didn’t reign supreme. The Who, Deep Purple, Rolling Stones, Yes and Pink Floyd were on a par with them in the 70s It’s only since the 70s that they have taken a lead over the others with record sales.
@@sammyrothrock6981sammy by your very good quote. I can tell either you’re in my age group from the 50s to the 70s in age or your young man who is a musician.
Grateful Dead has incredible albums and songs, some albums are essential rock álbumes and songs. Eric has got preferences also, He always said that he didn’t like the California sixties bands. But he got his musical taste. For me the Reagge is a very weak style but to Clapton is great. Personally, I can’t stand Bob Marley records
The dead were an acquired taste for me but I really appreciate them now that I am older and more mature. I guess Clapton doesn’t feel the same. Too bad.
A buddy of mine went to see Clapton at Alpine Valley, Stevie Ray Vaughn opened for him, he said that Stevie blew Clapton out of the water that night, sadly his final performance.
I agree with your buddy. I was at both those Alpine shows, and SRV completely blew away everyone on the bill on both nights... guarantee Clapton knew he met his match with SRV, as with Jimi.
@@Stratman1512That is correct. A very astute observation. Stevie could "blow away" quite a few big name guitarists such as Eric Clapton for instance. But as you rightly acknowledge, Page isn't one of them.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b And you never been to a SRV show because if you gotta pick a fight on TH-cam with someone you can’t be old enough to have been around in 1990 or you’re very stunted.(as I didn’t start the fight with squidley “hence User” who won’t Leave me alone for 2 weeks now. Squidley you’re one of those school Boy Front row “ brown nosing,’ pimple popping school nerds., have u ever had a girlfriend? Who are you trying to impress with the way you talk. and it’s not the musicologist who wins and loses those trials it’s the money that wins and loses those cases the money Led Zeppelin has in abundance and far more importantly the money the billion dollar record company has to back LZ by paying for there defense. I guarantee you Squiddly, you gotta look and sound like that kid with the squeaky voice from the Mark Harmon Kirsten Alley movie “Summer school”. You gotta put down people for what they listen to? as long as people aren’t ripping off other people like zeppelin go ahead listen to what you want even like Squiddly‘s favorite Travis Kielce Gf Taylor Swift. She sounds like Minnie mouse so I can understand with his squeaky voice why he likes her that’s OK.go like her.
@@Stratman1512 Funny how you´re using every given opportunity to protect EC. Do you have a sexual relationship with him? The further I go down the comment section the more pathetic your comments get.
He's correct on the first three. Love the dead, but they never really gave it much in the studio. Van Halen, mostly just speed-whaling away, and Madona pure pop. But he definitely missed it on lz. They could be very soft and delicate when they wanted to, and did it beautifully. They just kept rocking harder and better when all the greats started slowing down. Maybe that's what he meant.
Eric and Keith Richards should go out to dinner together. For his part, Jack Bruce also publicly expressed his dislike for Led Zeppelin. Keith's problem with Zeppelin mainly centers around Robert Plant who Keith considers to be sort a blond bombshell, but blond lead singers were in vogue in the late 60's. Millions of record and concert ticket sales later, Zeppelin still rules. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
@@ViceArc You're right, I forgot about Pete. Ultimately everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I suppose that as musicians working inside the music business unlike us fans, they have a different perspective.
@@DDEENY Think jealousy came into it, that they themselves (Eric, Keith Richards, Jack Bruce, etc) reckoned Zeppelin were better than them doing stuff that they knew they couldn't do.
If ‘too loud’ is the only derogatory comment Clapton can make about LZ, then that is not putting them down. I’ve been to Bluesbreakers gigs with John Mayall and they were very loud for some venues. Wouldn’t say they were bad though!
Nope. He was an absolute fucking trailblazer when he was young. Yardbirds, Bluesbreakers, Cream and Blind Faith were all groundbreaking BANDS. On his own starting in the 70s, Clapton relied on mostly cover songs from J.J. Cale and Bob Marley at which point he most certainly became a "tiresome geezer"
@@craigdamageHendrix was merely interested in meeting Clapton, he didn't idolise him. Then he shocked Clapton when he jammed with Cream because he'd never heard anything like it.
:-) No, that was me and my peer group. And it was true, then. Well, later on... Who shot the sherriff? Marley. Black magic woman? Green. Cocain? Cale. Tears in heaven? Ööuwhaou.. Clapton.
@@Stratman1512 I think you read a lot of Rolling Stones Magazine and your perception of reality was altered. Clapton has always been a thief and an opportunist. Whether recording other artists and playing with other musicians, he seems to be the spoliight. In addition to being a very weak composer. Thief of friends' wives.
When Hendrix and Zeppelin burst on the scene, he was no longer the darling of the little clique that praised him as "god." His dilemma was trying to be a pure bluesman that could somehow represent the continuation of black American music. He once declared that many of his generation were "selling out." He was misguided. Not even Hendrix or Page tried to be a pure bluesman. They took things further. They were also unabashed showmen. Not the overly serious collegiate bore that Eric ultimately became.
@@OdinsCloud Ahh yes. The restrained, the refined, the sophistos... Those who preferred "subtly". "Did you notice that slow hand? The vibrato"? clap, clap, clap. Yeah. But, I'm heading over to the jukejoint where Howlin Wolf is riling up the place. I heard both Jimi's are hanging out over there too.
It's all down to personal preferences. I happen to agree with everything Clapton says here. But that doesn't make us right. One reason why I love rock/blues music is that there is such a wide range, and the colour of your skin or your sex or your age or anything else just does not matter! It's the music that we all love - and what would life be without it?
"Once there were 3 bears with equal talents, Eric, Jimmy and Jeff. In those days, people admired them, some even calling them Gods... As time passes Jeff kept on exploring the forest and discovered the most unusual places and became a great and well respected explorer with a wide and unique knowledge. As for Jimmy, he was such a great builder, he and his new friends built great buildings and such that it made them what some considers to be the greatest builders the whole forest ever knew. And, as for Eric, he loved the pentatonic scale SOOOOO much that it's all he's been doing ever since... he's quite good now at bluesy 5 tone solos."
You mean the only one he was right about was zeppelin......oasis had more talent than every band and singer mentioned in this video....oasis worst songs were better than all those mentioned bands best songs.
I would agree...JP experimented with different tunings and effects, tones etc and could play the blues as well (Since I been loving you and others) EC is pretty much strictly pentatonic nothing real groundbreaking or earth shaking and he could write a song, I think Alvin Lee was a better picker. I do like EC though and have learned a lot of his licks. JP is a little more complicated to figure out especially in his weird tunings. Was he "sloppy" I suppose sometimes when he was drunk or on drugs....but, when he was on....he was great.
beck was better than either of them. I still would have paid to watch Beck in 2015, whereas I don't think Clapton has done anything but noodle on a guitar since Derek and the Dominoes
Jeff Beck has been a fretwankfestival since the late 60s and remains so to this day. Claptons got some tunes but essentially churns them out live like a click track. Jimmy Page could phase between reality and your subconscious at will and project any version of God through music.
Why is he so negative towards Led Zeppelin? Clapton's guitar playing was really good, like his work on the Bluesbreakers album. But the music of Led Zeppelin is at a different level, it is far more then a good guitar solo of Jimmy! And then he made a song which sounds like Stairway to Heaven? Let it grow th-cam.com/video/YpDlmop0uYU/w-d-xo.html
Truth is Clapton had a falling out with page years ago over some recordings of some jam sessions they had together and they got released without claptons consent. Clapton has never gotten past that.
Exactly. It was over financial dispute with Paige. And what all these young people don’t understand is Eric Clapton was the Michael Jordan of radio in the 1990s and nobody sold out areas and stadiums faster not even Elton John Paul McCartney in the 1990s and first decade of the 2000s when he reunited with cream, they broke every Madison Square Garden record for fastest sellouts so they added it or was it a fourth and that sold out immediately.
I believe everyone has a right to speak of their opinions, however, I don’t believe I give one shit what Clapton thinks of these other artists 🙄 what is it about that band that makes them so miserable? Bruce wasn’t exactly a happy camper and Clapton always comes of as a jealous, over critical tool, and don’t get me started on Baker🤨 pretty much a complete ass in every interview and thinks a little too much of himself🤦♂️
Yes. Exactly. Who cares what the guy said 40 years ago? And, at least he shared the stage with ppl like BB King and gave tons of other artists opportunities while Zeppelin simply stole their music only giving proper credit to the artists when facing litigation.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b I didn't say they didn't create anything original, but they also stole without giving credit music from Wlillie Dixon, Anne Bredon, Jake Holmes, and Bert Jansch. Black Mountain Side sounds exactly like Jansch's version of Down by Blackwaterside. They were sued several times for taking other musicians' work or arrangements without proper attribution. I like Page's playing as well as Clapton's. But Clapton whatever people think of him did a lot to popularize the blues and helped many artists in their careers as even BB King once stated in an interview before his passing. Jimmy is a great guitarist but also a greedy miser who cares more about fighting with his neighbors over what they do with their houses in stuffy richville than in promoting music. Some of Page's "innovations" are frankly overrated such as his playing his Les Paul with a bow which sounds like mindless racket and hardly qualifies as music anymore than scratching one's nails across a chalkboard.
@emil3709 How come Willie Dixon was 100% fully credited on I Can't Quit You Baby and You Shook Me on the first album right from the first pressings? How come Memphis Minnie was credited on When The Levee Breaks? How come Mrs Valens was credited on Boogie With Stu? How come Robert Johnson was credited on Travelling Riverside Blues? How come Sleepy John Estes was credited on The Girl I Love? How come Ben E King was credited on We're Gonna Groove? NONE of the above involved any litigation. This myth that Led Zeppelin never credited anyone without litigation or promoting is ridiculous and it is perpetuated by uninformed people who have heard some nonsense on the internet and they believe it. Just because Zeppelin didn't ALWAYS credit doesn't mean they NEVER credited. They did. At least had a dozen times.
@@lyndoncmp5751 that's actually not true, but whatever. Page and Clapton and all those guys are good guitarists, but also overrated because of fame and the nature of the music business. Page is a greedy dude who's been fighting with his neighbor for 20 years because the guy wants to renovate his house and Page says the noise will ruin the Victorian Era character of his lush mansion. Even his loud sound wasn't original to him but comes from guys like Link Wray. It's funny that Page was known for his loudness but can't tolerate any noise in his own backyard. Just another greedy as hell rich guy who made his fortune stealing other folks' music and styles. I do like Zeppelin's music and Page's solos are really good, but I don't worship any of them, least of all Page, who hasn't done anything noteworthy since The Firm.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b I do agree with you about Stsirway to Heaven and also that they did write some original stuff, but yes stole is the right word when you take other musicians' material without attribution as they did over and over. Musically, Jansch's arrangement is very similar to Page's. They are practically identical. Regardless, Page is a great guitarist, but his supposed innovations were largely based on the work of others. Zeppelin didn't invent the loud sound as ppl like Link Wray were already experimenting with distortion- I believe Wray actually drilled holes in his amplifier speakers to achieve the sound before amplifiers were being produced that had built in distortion controls.
Clapton's opinion of Madonna is one that I'm in agreement with. His opinion on Led Zeppelin though, about them being 'unnecessarily loud' made me think of Ginger Baker's answer when asked about his favorite memory of Cream's live shows - Baker said "Toad" : "Because that was the only time when the amplifiers weren't blasting my ears apart!" 😉
What people don’t get about Clapton is his mining of a tune to bring life to it. This is artistry. The bands he has criticised often miss that-they’re noisy & exciting.
@@mikahattunen4502 Listen to the original Crossroads by Robert Johnson then see what Cream did with it or what Hendrix did with Dylan’s Watchtower. They find gold not just mimic the original. Compare with what Led Zeppelin did to the old blues tunes making them loud & exciting.
Clapton was great at playing a certain genre on guitar, blues, mainly pentatonic scales, with especially.good bends and good vibrato. But he simply doesn’t have the songwriting legacy.
@@ZephyrCrypto I doubt he makes anywhere near what Taylor Swift makes. So I guess by your logic she’s a better songwriter. I meant he wasn’t writing anything all that complex or anything with the creativity of, say, some of Jimmy Page’s songwriting.
Actually, he’s worth more than Taylor Swift. as for a 15 year period from 1989 after the release of journeyman to the mid 2000s touring musician came close to Clapton to selling out areas and stadiums at the fastest space not even Paul McCartney sis.
I'm curious, which songs that you've written would you place above, oh, Sunshine of Your Love, Badge, Presence of the Lord, Let It Rain, Easy Now, Layla, Bell Bottom Blues, Keep On Growing, Anyday, Tell the Truth, Let It Grow, Hello Old Friend, Wonderful Tonight, Lay Down Sally, or Ain't Goin' Down in overall creativity, expression, and appeal?
Cream were actually great. Clapton probably was like Ginger Baker and annoyed they stumbled onto "heavy metal". Cream were actually quite bad ass. Sad that two of the players were douchebags. I don't know how Jack Bruce felt about Creams influence on metal.
I have heard the live concerts of Cream and Led Zeppelin and they are equals about sound and musicianship but Cream are the founders of the Hard rock and Zeppelin took up the relief from them. Therefore Cream are most relevant
I actually like his sincerity. He doesnt want to colour things to please others but say what he really thinks and feels. So many people talk nicely about others but shit behind their backs. So Clapton is what a good friend is suppose to be, honest and on such friend you can count on. For example I truly dont think there are many such high level quality guitarists who gave so much support to other musicians either playing on their recordings, supported them live or performed for their memory. For example Concert For George as a tribute to late George Harrison is for me still one of the greatest live concerts ever and performance of Clapton is truly spotless and he did such support for so many friends. Yes he said LZ were very loud which is actually true, but I know his more in depth views and I am telling you that he admire Jimmy Page more than most of hard core fans. A good friend will criticise you but will also love you sincerely and such is Clapton. Maybe his playing is not so fast now as it use to be but listening him live is amazing as ever and he never stopped evolving and he play with amazing feel and presence even at recent concerts. I also admire than he never stopped playing, touring and recording, he lives for the music and I believe that when he will no more be able to do it and lay down his guitar for good, he will soon breathe his last !
2:09 ‘Unnecessarily loud.’ How many times have you realized you can’t appreciate the quality of a song unless you have the volume totally cranked. And come on Eric-tell us about Tales of Brave Ulysses!
Sure, Eric, like it is so much more exciting hearing you play "I shot the sheriff" than Jimmy Page playing "Good times, bad times". Led Zeppelin took up Cream´s legacy? Like Cream is a Ford Pinto and Led Zeppelin a Lamborghini? I agree.
@@dm8579 Overall in the scheme of things, I have to agree. Ritchie also matured over the years, but Jimmy is still in the past. Seems like all he's really done is re-mix old Zeppelin songs. He could also be sloppy on stage. Gotta call it like I see it.
Good for Eric for speaking his mind, but he comes off like a dipshit. Nothing intelligent about what he's saying. Just because he "is GOD", doesn't make any of his critiques anything more than the balderdash they are.
I'd imagine he's saying he liked their more blues based stuff (of course), but then they turned into a full blown hard rock band with wide ranging, eclectic themes. You'll hear similar comments from The Who, Stones, and Beatles. They didn't understand Zeppelin, but LZ went on to become the greatest rock band of all time. I like to relax to Clapton tunes. LZ is a powerhouse that takes it to an entirely different level.
No Eric, Led Zeppelin did not take up your legacy. They had their own sound(s) and created their own legacy. Cream was a second-tier band too dysfunctional to stay together for more than a couple of years. Cream sold 15 million records total. Led Zeppelin IV alone sold nearly 40 million copies. Cream is nowhere close to Led Zeppelin.
On top of that, Page and Beck recorded Beck's Bolero in early '66. They created that sound, Cream stole it from them. Clapton never did anything original while Page and Beck were both pioneers of some of the most amazing guitar music ever created. Page and Beck are rock 'n roll guitar gods while Clapton is the name that everyone's grandmother knows. That's all you need to know. There's a reason why even though all 3 of them grew up right near each other why only Page and Beck were always good friends.
Yes, they took up the relief of Cream. They lasted 2 years but it was sufficient to inaugurate hard rock style and create some of the best rock songs and albums ever. It doesn’t matter the albums sold but the influence in all groups and artists as Hendrix, Leslie West, Beatles, Rolling,Zeppelin, Bonamassa, May, Van Halen, Tawshend, Pink Floyd, Allman brothers, Lynyrd Skynyrd , Free….
@@hwearrow No, Led Zeppelin did not take over for Cream. They were their own sound and built their own legacy. And neither did Cream inaugurate hard rock. They were a type of primarily blues influenced rock. They had some songs that were part of that hard rock sound genre, but there were many other bands at the same time who were also playing what was /can be considered hard rock.
Clapton, Pete Townsend, and Keith Richards all talk shit about LZ's music, but I think it's the fact they only produced 9 studio albums and still sold over 300 million of them.
Sleeping since 1968 you’re obviously a kid. Or a damn millennial. Eric Clapton was the Michael Jordan music in the 1990s. Nobody sold out more shows & arenas and stadiums faster than Eric Clapton did.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b u know all Jas. I’ll use you as my secret weapon if I ever have an TH-cam disagreement with somebody else in the future.& do u really like any of those 6 people you just mentioned!
Agree on the Dead. Disagree on Zep. May/VH, haven’t heard it but those are two wonderful guitar players, two of the best ever actually. Oasis has spawned many bands who emulate them and they certainly put-out some excellent music (and still do as individuals). And last, Madge. While not a fan of her music I was dragged to a concert (by girlfriends) in ‘86 in the Bay Area. She was excellent and put-on an incredible show. Madonna has talent and much of that talent is in marketing. I don’t value her music post early 90’s and I don’t like her lifestyle choices but that’s life, she is what she is. Clapton is an incredible guitar player and has gone through personal hell for a variety of mostly self-induced reasons. And he’s outspoken which many artists are. His criticisms of certain entertainers doesn’t bother me a bit, I appreciate his honesty and, quite frankly, we live in a world that wants to be insulated (and constantly offended) by any and all criticsm.
I Agree, Eric didn't like to stray far from the blues. Does this indicate that you do agree with the others, I can see his point actually, not necessarily a criticism.
@@peterrollinson-lorimer I disagree with Clapton's criticism of Zep's volume. Cream didn't exactly play at low volume either, and many, many bands played very loudly including The Who, Grand Funk and Cheer. I also disagree when he said Zep over-stated their point.
Ritcie Blakckmore can play circles around Clapton on electric or acoustic guitar. Deep Purple = superior band on all positions and songs to Cream as well.Clapton has been Jealous of all this competition since 1967
I can’t pick a favourite Led Zeppelin song, too many and depends what mood I’m in. I can count the number of Clapton songs in my music library quite comfortably on one hand. I’m aware people will think the complete opposite of this and that’s what’s great about music.
That Bluesbreakers album was a hell of a record. So maybe Clapton wasn't as diplomatic as he could have been here but his artistry was (is) undeniable.
@@patrickallen1628 To my point of view, he is 100% right on Led Zeppelin. No need to argue about tastes, of course, but no need to qualify anyone's views as jealousy or whatever else, either.
Led Zeppelin.... One studio guitarist, one half naked poseur, and 2 so good musicians. Not enough to make a good band. The most overrated band in history.
@@ionflor9535 Led Zeppelin were supposed to be loud. Clapton sounds like the grumpy older generation commenting on the youth of today. You'd never think they are the same age more or less.
Anyone who's gonna bother to hear what Eric has to say about Madonna and the Greatful Dead already know his impact and surely don't need to hear his whole introductive story for the 1000'th time
Yeah eric was better, that's why on the guitar boogie album jimmy let eric play lead guitar because he was the God in England at the time! Jimmy produced and played rhythm.
Clapton is not a burnt out rockstar, he’s a respected and acknowledged electric blues guitarist and pioneer. That’s why he’s asked these questions and the answers matter, if you’re an electric guitar player and understand who he is. If not, you’re just a pop music fan and you don’t get it.
Which albums you've recorded do you consider most superior to Bluesbreakers, Disraeli Gears, Wheels of Fire, Blind Faith, Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs, 461 Ocean Blvd., and Slowhand?
@@ptownscribe1254What a novel concept. Only musicians with multiple recorded albums are allowed to comment. Just for reference can you name a few of your best ones? I'm positively brimming with excitement at the prospect.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b Who said only recorded musicians can comment? Not me. But it's not too much to ask a person who dismisses a legendary musician/performer's entire career to define their terms. I love Freddy King and I love Eric Clapton and believe there is minimal overlap between the two beyond EC's first year or two of recording. I give credit where credit is due. Those who don't are the same as EC dismissing Zeppelin, although even he explained why he didn't like their sound.
You asked the OP what albums they had recorded which they considered superior to a number of Clapton's. That reads like you expected them to have personally recorded albums of their own. Perhaps you meant what records by other musicians which they personally owned. If so, please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding.
The Dead made some memorable studio albums such as Working Man's Dead or American Beauty. Garcia didn't repeat the same old blues-box lick 🎸 over and over again, he created inspired improvisations.
I'm sure Page couldn't give a f--k
Pages solo on No Quarter live is insane another level than Claptons pentatonic workouts
@@RickDanner Absolutely true.
JP will never be able to sweep the floor after EC's grand, 3-time rock n roll hall of fame career and U know it dude!
Absolutely right!
Clapton's in his 7th decade of playing. I haven't heard anything from Page in decades. Where is he???
My uncle was claptons gardner many years ago where he lives in cranleigh i used to go and help out sometimes with the gardning clapton would always bring us coffee and cakes i had a few spontaneous guitar lessons in the garden 👍
Totally cool.
insufferable friendless twat!
Excellent , and you, your uncle, and Clapton, what topics were you discussing ?
As is so often the way, the person villified in the media, and thereby in public consciousness (who is only hated because they told the truth about something there weren't supposed to) is actually a total gent in person. The price for integrity is often a bad reputation. I salute Eric Clapton, a truly great Briton.
Me too !!! Then I headed over to Abbey Road and help the Beatles on a couple of recordings.
Nothing will ever lessen my love for Led Zeppelin. Their music to ME is the greatest I’ve ever heard.
Still, I really do respect Eric’s own view on things, same with Pete Townsend and Keith Richard’s.
Zeppelin came in with the greatest line up ever and blew them all out the water in every direction and stole all their thunder.
I’d be pretty pissed off too tbh 😂
@@smith9808 yeah you can see the rage in their eyes when asked about zeppelin
I agree about Madonna and The Grateful Dead. With Led Zep it sounds like he was talking about hearing them live. In this case, I can see his point. They were unbelievably loud. But on the stereo, they were killer.
Absolutely! And on the stereo the Grateful Dead were often average, but brilliant live! Thank goodness there are so many killer Dead live albums!
@@greatwestern101
I enjoyed 'Working Mans Dead'.
When he is talking about Madonna isn’t he describing 90% of the modern charts today
when he was in Cream he played through dimed Marshall stacks...lol
@@greatwestern101I doubt you’ve even heard all their studio albums
They did more than "take" your legacy...They destroyed it. Never was, and never will be another rock band that can touch Led Zeppelin.
what about the stones more diverse than zepplin
Best live band……The Who!!
LZ fans are such whiny losers. They suck, and they'll never touch actual musicians like Clapton or the Beatles.
Zep didn't take anything. Page and Beck recorded Beck's Bolero in early '66. They were the inventors of this heavy sound. Cream knew all about Page and Beck. Page had been playing inventive guitar music in all his session work while Clapton played straight blues. Cream stole the heavy sound from Page and Beck.
@@terrymay8114 The Stones more diverse than Zeppelin? When did the Stones ever produce anything as good or mysterious as Rain Song, No Quarter, Kashmir or Achilles Last Stand? It began and ended with the blues, and they did it really well.
What a strange video. The quotes are Clapton's, but if you didn't know the voice over (and presumably, the video of him speaking) was AI, you'd think that he just said these things recently, instead of throughout his career. It does change the context quite a bit.
Thanks for pointing this out. I found it strange that a Clapton who looks like he's in his 80s finds it necessary to grumble about led zep. Now it makes sense, this was back in the day but the AI was trained on his current day talking voice😊
@@dreamsalamander Yes. Another exhibition of technology for technology's sake. Pointless, essentially.
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Creepy. Another experiment in fakery.
Thanks for pointing out the AI thing because none of this made sense as he's talking about these bands as if it were more the present day (meaning some supposed interview in recent times).
the jealousy of the other bands of that era towards Zeppelin runs deep.
I can see why he might say that, or Townsend also didn't like them, or Hendrix, even Ian Anderson didn't like some aspects (lyrics) so I'm not sure it was jealousy, I can see where the criticism is coming from, but at the same time LZ end product was so good that they would simply tower above these small issues. Critics said at first LZ is just like Cream, but worse. I would say but better - maybe just a matter of taste. And after the first album they were nothing alike.
There is or was a lot of dislike of Zeppelin, from Townshend, Clapton etc., but I think the reason is obvious…
So you say his take on Zep represents jealousy. I guess then he's also jealous of the Dead, Eddie Van Halen and Brian May, Madonna, and Oasis.
Jealousy of course! Townshend, Hendrix and Clapton and Dylan and Keith Richards and The Beatles. All these - the BIGGEST names in Rock didn't care for Zeppelin and it was, jealousy. What? LOL.
@@trespasser121 Understand that when opining, these other musicians were sometimes masking their jealousy or envy by mentioning/picking at technical aspects of Zepp, but to most of those listening, it didn't really hide the obvious. The force with which Zepp hit the scene, I can only equate it to like when people first heard Eddie do "Eruption"... Most everybody knows where they were and what they were doing, just like those who are old enough to remember the first time hearing Good Times Bad Times, or Heartbreaker... It was sorta like that... Just different times...
There's no way he said all this stuff. Got to be AI generated...
100% a lot of this is so fake lol
Took me a little bit but when he said he was insulted I was like wait a minute
I have zero problem with artists stating their unvarnished opinions about other artists at a particular time.
Me neither. People get all worked up over it for some reason.
I shouldn't really have any problems, after all EVERYTHING is a matter of opinions, whether those agree or not, or have problems or not. There are at least two sides to everything.
I could care less if anyone no matter who doesn't care for the band I like. To each their own.
There are some criticisms of Eric Clapton as well- and great as he is, his voice could have been a little stronger. A lot of great music, but a little more power in his voice would have made it even better. The fix seems easy, too- I'm not an expert, but it seems like the parts where his voice was weaker he was running low on breath- he just needed a little guidance from a good music teacher on having enough air when it is needed to get his voice to be stronger I think. I discussed this with a successful singer and she agreed. IN most cases this is the issue when people need more power, then you just need to practice with more power.
Exactly.
I'm more interested in his thoughts on guys who steal their best friends wives.
George Harrison was already seeing other women when Clapton got together with Boyd. Harrison loved Clapton
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You mean George Harrison who was boning Mrs. Starkey at the same time.
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@@johnmccoul6350 George called them "Husband In Laws"
Not to judge the guy, but well said.
The guy who played so loud in Cream, that he was temporarily deaf says Zeppelin played too loud. He said that when he played the solo on Crossroad he couldn't really hear what he was playing.
But Zep is unnecessarily loud. Right!!
Some thought Pink Floyd was too loud. What a laugh.
@@Autorange888 Back in the 70s most bands were too loud. Certainly the stadium shows were too loud. My sister was at a summer jam in arrowhead stadium and was ready to leave early because it was so loud she couldn't tell what song was being played. Her friend wanted to stay until the band played her favorite song. My sister pointed out that they were playing that song right now. Her friend said Oh. OK lets go. I could hear that show half a mile away better than the people at the concert could.
Well, but it another way.. He'd know. And I'm certain he does.
I was going to write that but went looking in the comments first in case I looked like I was copying someone.
Well said BTW.
@@onusgumboot5565 I went and saw Deep Purple play on the Perfect Strangers tour and it was too loud. I couldn't enjoy it and I like loud music but it was way above my pain threshold in our seating area.
He is absolutely right about Madonna and Oasis.
And Grateful Dead
Being irresponsible, arrogant hooligans was a big part of Oasis's appeal
He's right about all of them lmao
Oasis yes - Madonna: Well, the early years were so-so and I really prefer classical (Chopin mainly), Radiohead, Prog, etc but the Ray Of Light and Like A Prayer albums are unquestionably good. He is right about the production and packaging; the production with William Orbit was good. I also feel she is passionate about music which sits well with me. Just a shame the non singing stuff that comes out of her mouth can get her in trouble even though I see through it ;-) Led Zep aren't that good live but on vinyl they are truly excellent.
Sure, but it's like comparing apples and oranges.
I 100% agree with Eric on Madonna, though I much prefer Led Zeppelin to anything Eric Clapton has ever created.
Led Zeppelin was much bigger and more successful, not to mention in my opinion better, than anything Clapton ever did including Cream
@@roberttolentino7027 Agree.
Madonna was an icon and she obviously had an ear for music and lyrics. I admire and like Modonna 👈🏾 Madonna was not a dummy 👈🏾
Clapton is one of the most unoriginal people around. He just wanted to play pure blues, when others wanted to make changes, he wanted out. Most of his playing and singing is completely without passion. His best work was in the Derek and the Dominoes where they pushed him to show some life. That gave a clue as to what he could have done if he wasn't half-dead as a human. Even there even he was somewhat overshadowed by Duane Allman. Clapton's solo career is about as boring and mainstream as you could get. There's a reason why he's popular with so many that don't care about rock 'n roll at all.
@@stickman1742 I wholeheartedly agree with everything that you stated. It is clear for all to see that Eric resents Jimmy Pages huge success With Zeppelin. You hear it in his voice. Yet Jimmy has remained rather humble and personable.
Cream was also known as being unnecessarily loud.
There is no such thing
Cream were Gods
@@silasmarner7586 as Cream? I beg to differ.
@@silasmarner7586 preach it man
@ricofama1785 Cream was extremely, legendarily loud as a live band so you think he would have made the same complaint about the band he was in.
I saw Clapton in concert once. He put me to sleep.
It was that little pill you took from that peddler in the men's room that made you sleepy, lol!
after ten minutes of hearing him play I'm bored shitless, no matter what guitar he plays, Gibson or Strat, what music he plays it sounds identical, he just goes on and on, no improvisation, just blues he ripped off from other artists.
I traded a Clapton ticket for Grateful Dead in 1988////
@@jeffk.9075 No it doesn't. His music is tediously dull. If you think otherwise I'd say it's a you problem. Bit of a fan boy are you?
@@jeffk.9075 That's a story in the same way Clapton is a good musician.
I asked my brother if he'd seen Zeppelin, he said yes, I asked what were they like? He said 'loud'.
A friend saw them in 69 and said it was even mic'ed up so loud it picked up their footsteps.
its rock, it is supposed to be loud...jackass
Heard the same from others that had seen them. Unbearably loud.
By the way, if you have never seen the famous clip from the movie, "It might get Loud."
they weren't 'unnecessarily loud'. They were EXACTLY necessarily loud. All us kids got it! Loudness was part of the deal.
LZ was loud bcuz the music was tactile as well as auditory. The listener is meant to literally feel the music on the skin and bones. Not just feel it in your soul.
Mr Jimi also had this quality.
LOUD? no just bloody powerful
many bands were LOUD in late 60's & 70's - Deep Purple & The Who were legendary for their ear-melting shows - AC/DC - Motörhead - KISS - all were set to volume level 11 - or higher - one show for me in 1980 - Black Sabbath (with Dio on vocals ) - was extraordinarily loud - it was a co-headlining tour with Blue Öyster Cult - some bad blood between the bands - BÖC was as loud as they needed to be - but Sabbath felt the need to be twice as loud - my ears are still ringing from that one ..
Before playing for LZ Bonham kept getting kicked out of bands for playing too loud. But then, that was his style.
We all cranked the volume on this stuff when we were kids.
Given that Page was far superior to Clapton as a guitarist, and that Eric had few songs that matched Led Zep, for him to say that Zep failed to match Cream, and he didn't like what Page did with them, seems weak at best. Criticizing other players, he sounds like a brat kid downing players that outshone him. Clapton is overrated and irrelevant now. No one wants to hear his lame opinions.
@@dklang hahahahahahahahaha
Led Zeppelin was a Hard Rock band, what did you expect Clapton?
Cream was in their era a hard rock band who came before zeplin, obviously they weren't as loud as zeplin. Should cream have played louder than they did then?
You make no sense, Cream, they had their own style, Zeppelin was a louder hard rock just like ACDC.
@@AntonioBarsanio In short what I am say is that in Clapton's opinion Zeplin were too loud. Cream were a heavy rock band in the era before Zeplin. You said what did he expect, because they were a heavy rock band. So he is saying, even for a heavy rock band they were playing too loud. He should know given he was in a heavy rock band before they existed. Unless you don't class Cream as heavy rock? That is his informed opinion, he thinks they didn't need to be that loud in order to convey their message and emotions. Your opinion is obviously different, to which you are entitled, as equally is Clapton to his opinion.
@@mister.costello Clapton is a Master at what he does but that doesn't mean he can err. George Harrison said that he disliked Neil Young, The Hollies, etc.
Do I agree with George? Hell no! He is a legend but again his opinion means nothing to me.
Zeppelin was loud, so was ACDC. Without the loudness they would not be what they were. Clapton can have his opinions but the public would not agree with him at all!
@@AntonioBarsanio The thing is, Clapton was there and listened to them live during that era, most of the public, and I am guessing yourself didn't. Therefore most of the public don't have any validation to argue against him. I get your defense for Zep, a very important band in music history. Cream was by all accounts a loud band, so for Clapton to say that, must have some truth to it. You could argue he is jealous, but why would he be? He is still out there doing it, perhaps not to the standard he did from the mid eighties to about 2015. I get you, you're defending Zep and I am defending Clapton. Either way I think we both appreciate them both, so at the end of the day what does it really matter.
All hail The Mighty Led Zeppelin = true Rock Stars. The perfect storm of 4 super-talented musicians. There will never be another.
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@@nogbadthebad2609 yet Clapton is worth three times more than both Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, not sure where the jealousy part comes in here. And you do know Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton are still very good friends? Being a Led Zeppelin fan, you probably know nothing.And yes in the last four years, the media has tried to portray Clapton as going against the norm, (which that’s what rock ‘n’ roll is all about) but he comes off as bitter. If anything, Jack Bruce is a 10 times more bitter person than Eric Clapton and I love Jack Bruce. Eric Clapton was the one person in cream of the three, who wasn’t getting into punching fights every day and on stage. And the only person tolerated in frame by both Bruce and Baker was Eric Clapton. But then again, all 4 Zeps all hated each other. And still hate each other.
The jealousy thing is used all the time in the six months I’ve been in hear. When it’s Page & Plant that are unbelievably jealous of Eric Clapton‘s vast wealth and success for 60 years that started at almost the Kennedy administration. And the vast talent of three unbelievable musicians getting together was Cream, and there would be no LZ without them.And the most talented of any for musicians were inna little known band then we’re called the Beatles. My guess is you think Paul McCartney, Harrison and Lennon were all jealous of the Zeps. It’s to bad LZ didn’t throw out Page and get a guitarist with the talent of John McLaughlin , Allan Holdsworth why don’t you add in a guy who was more interested in the blues like Sonny Landreth. With either of those three guitarist’s Led Zeppelin might have been able to make some interesting music.
@@nogbadthebad2609 Clapton was never a bitter person. He was quiet and he was introspective, and you need an ego to succeed in the music business, -Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker as much as I love them both as musicians who we’re always bitter people, Jack not as much as Ginger but Jack was way more of a bitter person than Eric. That’s why it was Jack and Ginger getting into yelling arguments all the time, which would very frequently break into those fist fights I mentioned in my last text, sometimes breaking out into fist fights in the middle of concerts. That is 1 of the 3 reasons Eric Clapton left cream, (besides wanting to be more like what Robbie Robertson n what Robbie turned himself into by 1968 instead of a former frenzied guitarist player with the Hawks n even on the so called “Dylan-The Band basement tapes”as Robbie was 1 of the very first to turn it up to 10 Robbie was also one of the very first if not, the first to turn it back down when everybody had it up to 10.) And became a great songwriter. n the 3rd being Clapton quit Cream was the Rolling stone article. He never came off as bitter that all you Clapton haters love to now call him. I’m not a kid and I’m not a millennial, I listened n (good forgive me) but i both listened n played the greedy Zeps music for the first 20+ years of my life. As im
Old enough to remember when they were still making music if you wanna call it that, back in the Stone Age. But I grew up and part of growing up is you stop listening, and playing LZ’s music. You know what is your point? Are you trying to get people who loved Clapton their whole life not to like him? I just don’t get you you younger people at all. Listen to your crappy Zeppelin and shut the hell up! he has had an unbelievable solo career and if you don’t like Derek & The Dominos first album, you’re not a music fan, at least certainly not a rock - blues fan.
@@nogbadthebad2609 what does who Jack Bruce played with have to do with anything? so you want me to me to name with all the great musicians Eric Clapton has played with just over last year?? You have heard of Eric Clapton‘s crossroads concerts right? How about all the great musicians Clapton has played with over his career? Just think about everybody you know in the history of all the rock and blues, jazz fusion and every other genre of music who had been alive from 1964 till now Eric Clapton has played with. Goodbye.
@@Stratman1512 I respectfully disagree. Bye bye
Clapton has been playing the same solo for last 50 years.
Thanks for your insights. But Page hasn't played a solo in the last 44 years.
@@Paul-fg6mk just be honest and say you're jealous of pagey ffs
@@Paul-fg6mk He's 79. What does he owe you?
@@Paul-fg6mk Page playing a solo today or 44 years ago doesn't change the fact that Clapton has been playing the same solo for the last 50 years.
Some interesting, but not vital solo music.
Inspired playing with Cream and John Mayall.
His rant really turned me off, though I still sometimes listen.
He was influential in the '60s.
It would appear that privilege affected his musical course.
When I was young, an old man once told me rock music is to be felt as well as heard.
That never happened, and if it did, it was stupid.
Clapton takes himself a bit too seriously imo. Every band has it's own legacy.
Well right, in a way, but Lead Zep's belongs in a sewer.
@@privateprivate4378yes, they do belong in a sewer. Page's behavior in chasing after 14 year-old girls and ripping off American blues artists without giving them so much as a dime until facing litigation makes him a scummy person in my book, his amazing guitar skills notwithstanding.
Even Whitesnake?
Yes, I think he believes his own publicity too much, he can get very up himself sometimes. I well remember that rant at the audience he had, apparently he was pissed at the time, but there is some amount of arrogance in him that spills out on occasions.
@@HektorBandimar So you think British Multiculturalism hasn't been a dismal failure?
That's not what British people on the internet seem to saying en masse.
What is the point with all this Led Zep bashing here on youtube ? They were a fantastic band with great songs and beautiful albums. Nothing more to say…
Scratch a Zeppelin hater...find a Stones apologist.
Loved Zeppelin. Saw them in 69. Great band. They followed in the footsteps that Cream started. Even liked it on Zeppelin III when they started mimicking some things that Jethro Tull was doing. Truly a great band.
Tried hard to like them, couldn't do it. If it's any consolation, I didn't like everything Clapton either. So it goes.
Only said that Led played too loud. It's really more wise medical advice.
Eric Clapton certainly has a right to his opinion and I happen to agree with him, except for Zed Zeppelin. IMHO, Zep always has had their own thing, just from the chemistry between their 4 hugely talented and creative band members.
Clapton's music is mostly quite bland. LZ are geniuses.
Smoke another doobie
Geniuses ? Zepplin was a rip-off plagiarism at it finest . Slow hand was more a blues based purist bringing it into prog /rock in cream . Clapton slowhand didn't have to devil worship to make himself successful either. Plants voice was nauseous whining also
Led Zep were geniuses at HYPE, nothing more. Stealing other artists songs and style and AMPING it up to no ends. But they do impress the easily impressionable. Geniuses? LOL
@@sammyrothrock6981 growing up a guitarist since the 1970s Jimmy page can’t touch Eric Clapton. And all Led Zeppelin did was rip off blues artist and never give them any credit not by their voices or with their money and Led Zeppelin that was written by the band they open for in the late 60s their name spirit, it’s their song, especially there song. Which the greedy zeps. I believe are still holding up from going to court for that lawsuit now the families of spirit or after zeppelin. No creativity and next to Neil Young(who I love his music) is the sloppiest guitarist I have ever heard on a stage
@@sammyrothrock6981 Yea. I guess the great artists that were ripped off by Zeppelin, were simply jealous and mistaken.
Cream was another famously "loud" band too. I wonder how Eric feels about those guys. Zeppelin is musically speaking a direct descendant of Cream as they were both loud, heavily improvisational, British blues bands.
I actually find some of the Dead's studio work quite underrated. If anything, the Dead live is more of a mixed bag of either brilliance, or chemically influenced, aimless noodling.
Dead never really cared about selling records.
Zep wasn't a descendent as Page and Beck were doing the heavy sound first. Beck's Bolero was recorded in early '66. All these guys knew each other. Page's playing on session was incredibly innovate. Clapton just played straight blues. Cream copied the heavy sound being created by Page and Beck.
@@stickman1742 cream created the heavy sound created by back and page you’re definitely living in your own world bro. It was Eric Clapton and Michael Bloomfield with the Paul Blairfield brews band on the other side of the Atlantic who created blues rock not Jeff Beck and Jimmy page. Sorry wrong.
Let's not forget Duane Allman, helped Clapton on, his one big hit, “Layla."
Isn't he the one that played out of tune all over the track?
@@Rich6Brew
He's the one who suggested ripping off Albert King's song, As The Years Go Passing By for the opening riff. 😊
ONE big hit? are you nuts?
You do realize that entire album is better than anything led zeppelin has ever done
@@Evcapp123
I disagree but can still accept that fans of tame, unadventurous music would probably take such a view.
It's ROCK N ROLL!
It's supposed to be loud.
The loudest band I ever saw was Spinal Tap. When I left the arena my eardrums were bleeding.
@@xXcampx Crank it to 11
That's bullshit. Rock and roll is a music genre, play it loud or soft. And loud is for kids, by the way. Grow up, man.
Toin it up!
And I always thought Ginger Baker was the prickly one. Well, at least Eric is being honest.
Both insufferably jealous pricks.
He was.
@@commonman317 that’s not Eric AI
This is AI
Absolutely agree
Yes, it says so in the description.
welcome to the MACHINE
That explains why he sounds like a university professor
@@PaulFormentos WELCOME MY SON . . .
The temptation to compare artists is very strong but not very realistic. Virtually all of the rock groups from that era were amazing.
Why is Eric Clapton like a cup of coffee? They both suck without cream.
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Dude You botched the setup. Try “ what do x and y have in common?”
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@@df8161 should be "similarity"
Sad to hear Eric criticizing LZ. They were so much better than anyone else, stretching and experimenting all the while being incredibly musical. As a huge Clapton fan, I'm really disappointed. You're wrong on this Sir.
how stupid are you not to read the description before commenting.
Led Zeppelin stole everyone's thunder in the 70's. Yes, they are that amazing.
Led Zeppelin stole the music of others and tried to call it their own.
That's why people hated them, out of envy.
@@Mister_Pedantic And they always made it their own. Never did any of us mind.I like to think it was a sort of tribute to those bands and artists they admired.
@@scottcrowley2061 It wasn't a tribute. It was a scam. If it had been a tribute then LZ would have given a composer credit to the original artists without the legal system ordering them to. As it happened, they did eventually write some cheques.
Cream performed "Crossroads" in concert with two lines from "Travelling Riverside Blues" added on. Eric Clapton gave himself an arranger credit but Robert Johnson was properly credited as the composer. It appeared on the "Wheels Of Fire" album.
musicianwise maybe möthörrhetZ v?v
I assume even Clapton had to like 'Since I've Been Loving You" though. That is one beautifully done minor blues, with an outstanding vocal by Plant.
Though it's pretty funny how Clapton, Townshend, Keith Richards, the ever complaining Roger Waters and others seem to have such strong feelings towards Page and LZ...might be 'cause they reigned supreme in the 70s 👑
true enough - but if LZ had one serious competitor throughout the 70's - it was Pink Floyd - and while Zep was hotter at the start of the decade - Floyd was arguably stronger at the end of the 70's - don't get me wrong - I love Zep - but I'd say Animals & The Wall are just better records than Presence & In Through the Out Door ..
Zepplin was a rip-off plagiarism at it finest . Slow hand was more a blues based purist bringing it into prog /rock in cream . Clapton slowhand didn't have to devil worship to make himself successful either. Plants voice was nauseous whining also
They didn’t reign supreme. The Who, Deep Purple, Rolling Stones, Yes and Pink Floyd were on a par with them in the 70s It’s only since the 70s that they have taken a lead over the others with record sales.
Correction…replace Yes and Deep Purple with Queen and Fleetwood Mac.
@@sammyrothrock6981sammy by your very good quote. I can tell either you’re in my age group from the 50s to the 70s in age or your young man who is a musician.
I never got what was so great about the Dead, Madonna, and Oasis. Now Zeppelin is another story.
Grateful Dead has incredible albums and songs, some albums are essential rock álbumes and songs. Eric has got preferences also, He always said that he didn’t like the California sixties bands. But he got his musical taste. For me the Reagge is a very weak style but to Clapton is great. Personally, I can’t stand Bob Marley records
@@hwearrow I think he only liked Mike Bloomfield.
The dead were an acquired taste for me but I really appreciate them now that I am older and more mature. I guess Clapton doesn’t feel the same. Too bad.
A buddy of mine went to see Clapton at Alpine Valley, Stevie Ray Vaughn opened for him, he said that Stevie blew Clapton out of the water that night, sadly his final performance.
I agree with your buddy. I was at both those Alpine shows, and SRV completely blew away everyone on the bill on both nights... guarantee Clapton knew he met his match with SRV, as with Jimi.
@@Stratman1512That is correct. A very astute observation. Stevie could "blow away" quite a few big name guitarists such as Eric Clapton for instance. But as you rightly acknowledge, Page isn't one of them.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b And you never been to a SRV show because if you gotta pick a fight on TH-cam with someone you can’t be old enough to have been around in 1990 or you’re very stunted.(as I didn’t start the fight with squidley “hence User” who won’t Leave me alone for 2 weeks now. Squidley you’re one of those school Boy Front row “ brown nosing,’ pimple popping school nerds., have u ever had a girlfriend? Who are you trying to impress with the way you talk. and it’s not the musicologist who wins and loses those trials it’s the money that wins and loses those cases the money Led Zeppelin has in abundance and far more importantly the money the billion dollar record company has to back LZ by paying for there defense. I guarantee you Squiddly, you gotta look and sound like that kid with the squeaky voice from the Mark Harmon Kirsten Alley movie “Summer school”. You gotta put down people for what they listen to? as long as people aren’t ripping off other people like zeppelin go ahead listen to what you want even like Squiddly‘s favorite Travis Kielce Gf Taylor Swift. She sounds like Minnie mouse so I can understand with his squeaky voice why he likes her that’s OK.go like her.
@@Stratman1512 Funny how you´re using every given opportunity to protect EC. Do you have a sexual relationship with him? The further I go down the comment section the more pathetic your comments get.
I’ve always liked Clapton but also thought he was overrated.
He's correct on the first three. Love the dead, but they never really gave it much in the studio. Van Halen, mostly just speed-whaling away, and Madona pure pop. But he definitely missed it on lz. They could be very soft and delicate when they wanted to, and did it beautifully. They just kept rocking harder and better when all the greats started slowing down. Maybe that's what he meant.
Just because Clapton cannot identify with what Zeppelin did matters not, they've moved musical mountains.
Yeah it's pretty obvious what they did.. Make (amazing) music in a way nobody before them had.
Eric and Keith Richards should go out to dinner together. For his part, Jack Bruce also publicly expressed his dislike for Led Zeppelin. Keith's problem with Zeppelin mainly centers around Robert Plant who Keith considers to be sort a blond bombshell, but blond lead singers were in vogue in the late 60's. Millions of record and concert ticket sales later, Zeppelin still rules. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
@@DDEENY I've seen Pete Townshend disparage them too. Don't get it at all. Keith, Eric, Pete and Jimmy... They're ALL great!
@@ViceArc You're right, I forgot about Pete. Ultimately everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I suppose that as musicians working inside the music business unlike us fans, they have a different perspective.
@@DDEENY Think jealousy came into it, that they themselves (Eric, Keith Richards, Jack Bruce, etc) reckoned Zeppelin were better than them doing stuff that they knew they couldn't do.
If ‘too loud’ is the only derogatory comment Clapton can make about LZ, then that is not putting them down.
I’ve been to Bluesbreakers gigs with John Mayall and they were very loud for some venues. Wouldn’t say they were bad though!
impressive you went to those gigs, you experienced reality
Only sensible comment on this video.
I always did suspect that Clapton was a tiresome old geezer even when he was young.
Nope. He was an absolute fucking trailblazer when he was young. Yardbirds, Bluesbreakers, Cream and Blind Faith were all groundbreaking BANDS. On his own starting in the 70s, Clapton relied on mostly cover songs from J.J. Cale and Bob Marley at which point he most certainly became a "tiresome geezer"
@@craigdamage Only a little of Cream and Blind Faith. Still, he was just one part. Mediocre guitarist.
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@@mjp96 Jimi Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen weren't influenced by a "mediocre guitarist". Both idolized Clapton, genius.
@@craigdamageHendrix was merely interested in meeting Clapton, he didn't idolise him. Then he shocked Clapton when he jammed with Cream because he'd never heard anything like it.
Cream was such an under rated super band.
I don't think Cream was under rated, critics have always been complimentary of them. It's just that the band didn't last because of internal tensions.
Now we know who sprayed "Clapton is God" on that Islington wall.
haha! I thought Lennon was. > Jesus
:-) No, that was me and my peer group. And it was true, then. Well, later on... Who shot the sherriff? Marley. Black magic woman? Green. Cocain? Cale. Tears in heaven? Ööuwhaou.. Clapton.
Hahahahahahaha....Nice. I never suspected the obvious. I owe you a beer.
Best comment here!
@@Stratman1512 I think you read a lot of Rolling Stones Magazine and your perception of reality was altered. Clapton has always been a thief and an opportunist. Whether recording other artists and playing with other musicians, he seems to be the spoliight. In addition to being a very weak composer. Thief of friends' wives.
When Hendrix and Zeppelin burst on the scene, he was no longer the darling of the little clique that praised him as "god." His dilemma was trying to be a pure bluesman that could somehow represent the continuation of black American music. He once declared that many of his generation were "selling out." He was misguided. Not even Hendrix or Page tried to be a pure bluesman. They took things further. They were also unabashed showmen. Not the overly serious collegiate bore that Eric ultimately became.
Damn. Well said
Precisely.
you right hendrix and led zeplin were showman playing loud terrible music at least eric played good music with the best of artists
The others played to the American crowd, Clapton played to the sophisticated.
@@OdinsCloud Ahh yes. The restrained, the refined, the sophistos... Those who preferred "subtly". "Did you notice that slow hand? The vibrato"? clap, clap, clap.
Yeah. But, I'm heading over to the jukejoint where Howlin Wolf is riling up the place. I heard both Jimi's are hanging out over there too.
Zeppelin simply more talented than anybody else plain and simple, best concert I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen most of the legends in my time.
It's all down to personal preferences. I happen to agree with everything Clapton says here. But that doesn't make us right. One reason why I love rock/blues music is that there is such a wide range, and the colour of your skin or your sex or your age or anything else just does not matter! It's the music that we all love - and what would life be without it?
Who the f..k cares what Clapton thinks of the mighty LZ.
All the LZ defenders posting here?
From the man who threw his dummy out when Hendrix blew him off stage in an improv jam.
To be fair to Eric though, he then went and got an Afro hair style like Jimi's. That tells you the amount of admiration he really had for him.
@@Treviscoe 🤣🤣
@@TreviscoeSo it’s all about the hair style! 😂. Pretty much sums up the rock world.
First time he saw Hendrix play at the Whiskey he was in the audience and walked out, he's got a huge ego and knew he couldn't hang with Jimi
Oasis are much better than Cream
Clap bores me to tears..
"Once there were 3 bears with equal talents, Eric, Jimmy and Jeff. In those days, people admired them, some even calling them Gods... As time passes Jeff kept on exploring the forest and discovered the most unusual places and became a great and well respected explorer with a wide and unique knowledge. As for Jimmy, he was such a great builder, he and his new friends built great buildings and such that it made them what some considers to be the greatest builders the whole forest ever knew. And, as for Eric, he loved the pentatonic scale SOOOOO much that it's all he's been doing ever since... he's quite good now at bluesy 5 tone solos."
damn😂
Not just any pentatonic, but specifically, A minor pentatonic LOL
Interesting that both Clapton & Townshend couldn't stand Zeppelin.
Keith Richards also put down their music
Jealousy is a bitter pill to swallow.
Hendrix too
Many, many musicians of high standing do not like Led Zeppelin. I wonder why ... Could it be discernment ?
@@paulschnyder938 Nothing to do with jealousy.
He was right about everyone but Zeppelin.
You mean the only one he was right about was zeppelin......oasis had more talent than every band and singer mentioned in this video....oasis worst songs were better than all those mentioned bands best songs.
@@stevens5541 Please tell me you´re joking about Oasis. Please. You cannot be serious? They sound like sheep baaaahing when they sing
@stevenrivers8386 I've never met an Oasis song I liked.
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Page is in a totally different class to Clapton
Yeah. Clapton is an A. Page a sloppy C-
I would agree...JP experimented with different tunings and effects, tones etc and could play the blues as well (Since I been loving you and others) EC is pretty much strictly pentatonic nothing real groundbreaking or earth shaking and he could write a song, I think Alvin Lee was a better picker. I do like EC though and have learned a lot of his licks. JP is a little more complicated to figure out especially in his weird tunings. Was he "sloppy" I suppose sometimes when he was drunk or on drugs....but, when he was on....he was great.
beck was better than either of them. I still would have paid to watch Beck in 2015, whereas I don't think Clapton has done anything but noodle on a guitar since Derek and the Dominoes
Jeff Beck has been a fretwankfestival since the late 60s and remains so to this day. Claptons got some tunes but essentially churns them out live like a click track. Jimmy Page could phase between reality and your subconscious at will and project any version of God through music.
Completely different guitarists
What this comment thread has really driven home to me is that Led Zep fans are getting to be almost as insufferable as Beatles fanatics.
Why is he so negative towards Led Zeppelin? Clapton's guitar playing was really good, like his work on the Bluesbreakers album. But the music of Led Zeppelin is at a different level, it is far more then a good guitar solo of Jimmy!
And then he made a song which sounds like Stairway to Heaven? Let it grow
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Truth is Clapton had a falling out with page years ago over some recordings of some jam sessions they had together and they got released without claptons consent. Clapton has never gotten past that.
Exactly. It was over financial dispute with Paige. And what all these young people don’t understand is Eric Clapton was the Michael Jordan of radio in the 1990s and nobody sold out areas and stadiums faster not even Elton John Paul McCartney in the 1990s and first decade of the 2000s when he reunited with cream, they broke every Madison Square Garden record for fastest sellouts so they added it or was it a fourth and that sold out immediately.
And this coming from a Beatles fan, which I am
I believe everyone has a right to speak of their opinions, however, I don’t believe I give one shit what Clapton thinks of these other artists 🙄 what is it about that band that makes them so miserable? Bruce wasn’t exactly a happy camper and Clapton always comes of as a jealous, over critical tool, and don’t get me started on Baker🤨 pretty much a complete ass in every interview and thinks a little too much of himself🤦♂️
Clapton is allowed his opinion just like everyone here in the comments. Honestly who cares about this. Lol
Yes. Exactly. Who cares what the guy said 40 years ago? And, at least he shared the stage with ppl like BB King and gave tons of other artists opportunities while Zeppelin simply stole their music only giving proper credit to the artists when facing litigation.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b I didn't say they didn't create anything original, but they also stole without giving credit music from Wlillie Dixon, Anne Bredon, Jake Holmes, and Bert Jansch. Black Mountain Side sounds exactly like Jansch's version of Down by Blackwaterside. They were sued several times for taking other musicians' work or arrangements without proper attribution. I like Page's playing as well as Clapton's. But Clapton whatever people think of him did a lot to popularize the blues and helped many artists in their careers as even BB King once stated in an interview before his passing. Jimmy is a great guitarist but also a greedy miser who cares more about fighting with his neighbors over what they do with their houses in stuffy richville than in promoting music. Some of Page's "innovations" are frankly overrated such as his playing his Les Paul with a bow which sounds like mindless racket and hardly qualifies as music anymore than scratching one's nails across a chalkboard.
@emil3709
How come Willie Dixon was 100% fully credited on I Can't Quit You Baby and You Shook Me on the first album right from the first pressings? How come Memphis Minnie was credited on When The Levee Breaks? How come Mrs Valens was credited on Boogie With Stu? How come Robert Johnson was credited on Travelling Riverside Blues? How come Sleepy John Estes was credited on The Girl I Love? How come Ben E King was credited on We're Gonna Groove?
NONE of the above involved any litigation. This myth that Led Zeppelin never credited anyone without litigation or promoting is ridiculous and it is perpetuated by uninformed people who have heard some nonsense on the internet and they believe it.
Just because Zeppelin didn't ALWAYS credit doesn't mean they NEVER credited. They did. At least had a dozen times.
@@lyndoncmp5751 that's actually not true, but whatever. Page and Clapton and all those guys are good guitarists, but also overrated because of fame and the nature of the music business. Page is a greedy dude who's been fighting with his neighbor for 20 years because the guy wants to renovate his house and Page says the noise will ruin the Victorian Era character of his lush mansion. Even his loud sound wasn't original to him but comes from guys like Link Wray. It's funny that Page was known for his loudness but can't tolerate any noise in his own backyard. Just another greedy as hell rich guy who made his fortune stealing other folks' music and styles. I do like Zeppelin's music and Page's solos are really good, but I don't worship any of them, least of all Page, who hasn't done anything noteworthy since The Firm.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b I do agree with you about Stsirway to Heaven and also that they did write some original stuff, but yes stole is the right word when you take other musicians' material without attribution as they did over and over. Musically, Jansch's arrangement is very similar to Page's. They are practically identical. Regardless, Page is a great guitarist, but his supposed innovations were largely based on the work of others. Zeppelin didn't invent the loud sound as ppl like Link Wray were already experimenting with distortion- I believe Wray actually drilled holes in his amplifier speakers to achieve the sound before amplifiers were being produced that had built in distortion controls.
Clapton's opinion of Madonna is one that I'm in agreement with.
His opinion on Led Zeppelin though, about them being 'unnecessarily loud' made me think of Ginger Baker's answer when asked about his favorite memory of Cream's live shows - Baker said "Toad" : "Because that was the only time when the amplifiers weren't blasting my ears apart!"
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What people don’t get about Clapton
is his mining of a tune to bring life to it. This is artistry. The bands he has criticised often miss that-they’re noisy & exciting.
What does this even mean :D Were Cream mining tunes when they were playing or being loud and exiting?
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Listen to the original Crossroads by Robert Johnson then see what Cream did with it or what Hendrix did with Dylan’s Watchtower. They find gold not
just mimic the original. Compare with what Led Zeppelin did to the old blues tunes making them loud & exciting.
I along with many others find him mostly dull. Technically he is very good, I'd never doubt that.
Clapton was great at playing a certain genre on guitar, blues, mainly pentatonic scales, with especially.good bends and good vibrato. But he simply doesn’t have the songwriting legacy.
His royalty cheques may disagree with you 😅
@@ZephyrCrypto I doubt he makes anywhere near what Taylor Swift makes. So I guess by your logic she’s a better songwriter.
I meant he wasn’t writing anything all that complex or anything with the creativity of, say, some of Jimmy Page’s songwriting.
Actually, he’s worth more than Taylor Swift. as for a 15 year period from 1989 after the release of journeyman to the mid 2000s touring musician came close to Clapton to selling out areas and stadiums at the fastest space not even Paul McCartney sis.
@@user-dh5bnafe4bWHAT FACTS!! go to your room and listen to Taylor Swift. I don’t care. !
I'm curious, which songs that you've written would you place above, oh, Sunshine of Your Love, Badge, Presence of the Lord, Let It Rain, Easy Now, Layla, Bell Bottom Blues, Keep On Growing, Anyday, Tell the Truth, Let It Grow, Hello Old Friend, Wonderful Tonight, Lay Down Sally, or Ain't Goin' Down in overall creativity, expression, and appeal?
Like Cream weren't loud?
Cream were actually great. Clapton probably was like Ginger Baker and annoyed they stumbled onto "heavy metal". Cream were actually quite bad ass. Sad that two of the players were douchebags. I don't know how Jack Bruce felt about Creams influence on metal.
I don't think Eric really got other people's music - his horrendous cover of Little Wing completely misses the delicate genius of the song.
The only way to listen to Zep is loud! Clapton is jealous. I saw both Zep and Cream in concert and Zeppelin was definitely the superior.
I have heard the live concerts of Cream and Led Zeppelin and they are equals about sound and musicianship but Cream are the founders of the Hard rock and Zeppelin took up the relief from them. Therefore Cream are most relevant
If Clapton were able to apprehend the genus of LZ, maybe his own music would not be such pedestrian shlock.
Can't argue with that one 🙂
His last innovative contribution was Cream, but it was soon overtaken by Experience.
You might be forgetting Blind Faith, but that's like a year later.
Derek and the dominoes and blind faith. But after that, agreed, pretty boring.
@@dbb124 Derek and the Dominos is good, but Blind Faith was a supergroup that didn't work out very well
@@EdwardBast Blind Faith was a supergroup that didn't work out very well
What was the "last innovative contribution" of J. Page in the last... 44 years?!
I actually like his sincerity. He doesnt want to colour things to please others but say what he really thinks and feels. So many people talk nicely about others but shit behind their backs. So Clapton is what a good friend is suppose to be, honest and on such friend you can count on. For example I truly dont think there are many such high level quality guitarists who gave so much support to other musicians either playing on their recordings, supported them live or performed for their memory. For example Concert For George as a tribute to late George Harrison is for me still one of the greatest live concerts ever and performance of Clapton is truly spotless and he did such support for so many friends. Yes he said LZ were very loud which is actually true, but I know his more in depth views and I am telling you that he admire Jimmy Page more than most of hard core fans. A good friend will criticise you but will also love you sincerely and such is Clapton. Maybe his playing is not so fast now as it use to be but listening him live is amazing as ever and he never stopped evolving and he play with amazing feel and presence even at recent concerts. I also admire than he never stopped playing, touring and recording, he lives for the music and I believe that when he will no more be able to do it and lay down his guitar for good, he will soon breathe his last !
Eric is entitled to his opinion and has earned the right to express it.
2:09 ‘Unnecessarily loud.’ How many times have you realized you can’t appreciate the quality of a song unless you have the volume totally cranked. And come on Eric-tell us about Tales of Brave Ulysses!
Sure, Eric, like it is so much more exciting hearing you play "I shot the sheriff" than Jimmy Page playing "Good times, bad times". Led Zeppelin took up Cream´s legacy? Like Cream is a Ford Pinto and Led Zeppelin a Lamborghini? I agree.
He hit his real bottom with Lay Down Sally. To this day whenever I hear that deplorable song, I still think "what the fuck is this shit?"
@jeffsilverman6104 Tulsa Time really sets the pulse racing though dontcha think? (searches for sarcasm emoji)
was anyone cooler than Jimmy Page ? NO And he could play he was great in all aspects
@@RickDanner Ritchie Blackmore was cooler than Page and played much better as well.
@@dm8579 Overall in the scheme of things, I have to agree. Ritchie also matured over the years, but Jimmy is still in the past. Seems like all he's really done is re-mix old Zeppelin songs. He could also be sloppy on stage. Gotta call it like I see it.
Could this be an A.I. generated Eric Clapton?
Dude was always a grumpy old man yelling at kids to get off his yard. He’s the most boring major guitarist in the last 40 years.
I like a man who has the balls to speak his mind openly. We all have such thoughts about many things but only few of us ever externalize them.
Good for Eric for speaking his mind, but he comes off like a dipshit. Nothing intelligent about what he's saying. Just because he "is GOD", doesn't make any of his critiques anything more than the balderdash they are.
I'd imagine he's saying he liked their more blues based stuff (of course), but then they turned into a full blown hard rock band with wide ranging, eclectic themes. You'll hear similar comments from The Who, Stones, and Beatles. They didn't understand Zeppelin, but LZ went on to become the greatest rock band of all time. I like to relax to Clapton tunes. LZ is a powerhouse that takes it to an entirely different level.
led zep were one dimention racket stones greatest rock band ever
@@terrymay8114 Scratch a Zeppelin hater...find a Stones apologist. "Dirty Work is so underrated!"
He's spot on about Madonna
No Eric, Led Zeppelin did not take up your legacy. They had their own sound(s) and created their own legacy. Cream was a second-tier band too dysfunctional to stay together for more than a couple of years. Cream sold 15 million records total. Led Zeppelin IV alone sold nearly 40 million copies. Cream is nowhere close to Led Zeppelin.
On top of that, Page and Beck recorded Beck's Bolero in early '66. They created that sound, Cream stole it from them. Clapton never did anything original while Page and Beck were both pioneers of some of the most amazing guitar music ever created. Page and Beck are rock 'n roll guitar gods while Clapton is the name that everyone's grandmother knows. That's all you need to know. There's a reason why even though all 3 of them grew up right near each other why only Page and Beck were always good friends.
@@stickman1742 Amen!
Yes, they took up the relief of Cream. They lasted 2 years but it was sufficient to inaugurate hard rock style and create some of the best rock songs and albums ever. It doesn’t matter the albums sold but the influence in all groups and artists as Hendrix, Leslie West, Beatles, Rolling,Zeppelin, Bonamassa, May, Van Halen, Tawshend, Pink Floyd, Allman brothers, Lynyrd Skynyrd , Free….
@@hwearrow No, Led Zeppelin did not take over for Cream. They were their own sound and built their own legacy. And neither did Cream inaugurate hard rock. They were a type of primarily blues influenced rock. They had some songs that were part of that hard rock sound genre, but there were many other bands at the same time who were also playing what was /can be considered hard rock.
Clapton, Pete Townsend, and Keith Richards all talk shit about LZ's music, but I think it's the fact they only produced 9 studio albums and still sold over 300 million of them.
Says the guy who has been sleeping since 1968
Sleeping since 1968 you’re obviously a kid. Or a damn millennial. Eric Clapton was the Michael Jordan music in the 1990s. Nobody sold out more shows & arenas and stadiums faster than Eric Clapton did.
Love Clapton or hate him, but “sleeping” since 1968? 😂 what a foolish thing to say.
@@jeday76 Nahhhh...it´s true
@@Stratman1512Nobody except Maria Carey, Celine Dion, Garth Brooks, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, U2 and dozens of others. 😅
@@user-dh5bnafe4b u know all Jas. I’ll use you as my secret weapon if I ever have an TH-cam disagreement with somebody else in the future.& do u really like any of those 6 people you just mentioned!
Agree on the Dead. Disagree on Zep. May/VH, haven’t heard it but those are two wonderful guitar players, two of the best ever actually. Oasis has spawned many bands who emulate them and they certainly put-out some excellent music (and still do as individuals). And last, Madge. While not a fan of her music I was dragged to a concert (by girlfriends) in ‘86 in the Bay Area. She was excellent and put-on an incredible show. Madonna has talent and much of that talent is in marketing. I don’t value her music post early 90’s and I don’t like her lifestyle choices but that’s life, she is what she is. Clapton is an incredible guitar player and has gone through personal hell for a variety of mostly self-induced reasons. And he’s outspoken which many artists are. His criticisms of certain entertainers doesn’t bother me a bit, I appreciate his honesty and, quite frankly, we live in a world that wants to be insulated (and constantly offended) by any and all criticsm.
I disagree with Clapton about Led Zeppelin.
I Agree, Eric didn't like to stray far from the blues. Does this indicate that you do agree with the others, I can see his point actually, not necessarily a criticism.
@@peterrollinson-lorimer I disagree with Clapton's criticism of Zep's volume. Cream didn't exactly play at low volume either, and many, many bands played very loudly including The Who, Grand Funk and Cheer. I also disagree when he said Zep over-stated their point.
And about oasis....oasis are the second best band ever after the beatles
@@stevens5541 Ever think of doin stand up?
Why is Zeppelin more popular than Clapton?
Because they were way better.
Bingo
Because there music is 1000x better.
Also deep purple opened up for cream on their farewell tour. And even Hendrix said they blew them off the stage!
Ritcie Blakckmore can play circles around Clapton on electric or acoustic guitar. Deep Purple = superior band on all positions and songs to Cream as well.Clapton has been Jealous of all this competition since 1967
@@drummersinger5324 Absolutely!!!
I can’t pick a favourite Led Zeppelin song, too many and depends what mood I’m in. I can count the number of Clapton songs in my music library quite comfortably on one hand. I’m aware people will think the complete opposite of this and that’s what’s great about music.
Clapton is nothing on Led Zeppelin. Period
I never understood the Clapton worship. Compared to Page or Hendrix, the man is a hack.
@@JohnSmith-yi2ujListen to the Bluesbreaker album. He invented Page and Hendrix.
In another life, Clapton was in a group called Cream. They created groups like Led Zepplin,
but Zepplin was nothing more than a poor man's Cream!
That Bluesbreakers album was a hell of a record. So maybe Clapton wasn't as diplomatic as he could have been here but his artistry was (is) undeniable.
At most points i agree with Clapton, but certainly not about his comments on Led Zeppelin.
@@patrickallen1628 To my point of view, he is 100% right on Led Zeppelin. No need to argue about tastes, of course, but no need to qualify anyone's views as jealousy or whatever else, either.
Led Zeppelin.... One studio guitarist, one half naked poseur, and 2 so good musicians. Not enough to make a good band. The most overrated band in history.
@@williamthelast1Jimmy page was also a session guitarist genius 😂
@@williamthelast1 Each member of Led Zeppelin was excellent at what they did.
@@ionflor9535 Led Zeppelin were supposed to be loud. Clapton sounds like the grumpy older generation commenting on the youth of today. You'd never think they are the same age more or less.
Clapto peaked with Cream as a player. As a human being he has a lit to answer for.
At least he wasn’t banging 14 yo’s like Page.
1:24 what is playing on background?
Ritchie Blackmore " Hold my beer Eric "
RB is one of my favourites. Maybe Beck was prolly as good in a different way but RB's sound with those bell like solos just melt me....
Led Zeppelin=Hammer of the Gods. Clapton=Talking about Gods.
Anyone who's gonna bother to hear what Eric has to say about Madonna and the Greatful Dead already know his impact and surely don't need to hear his whole introductive story for the 1000'th time
At least they included Zeppelin's all-time best song.
I agree with his comments about Led Zeppelin and Oasis.
Eric Clapton isn’t even close to Jimmy Page
To someone who is indifferent on the topic......................they are at approximately the same level. A high level.
Yeah eric was better, that's why on the guitar boogie album jimmy let eric play lead guitar because he was the God in England at the time! Jimmy produced and played rhythm.
@@ascendant95 Clapton is a boring mess.
@@MitchClement-il6iq All a matter of taste Champ........Clapton bores me to tears and Zeppelin has no equal.
Well said
Led Zeps...CRAP! sloppy hot mess. Clapton got it right.
yea vastly overated racket they coulnt write a song like angie or gimmie shelter
@@terrymay8114 lofl stick the rain song in your pipe and smoke it then wash it down with achillies last stand...moron
moron alert
Did his chin fall off?
Clapton is not a burnt out rockstar, he’s a respected and acknowledged electric blues guitarist and pioneer. That’s why he’s asked these questions and the answers matter, if you’re an electric guitar player and understand who he is. If not, you’re just a pop music fan and you don’t get it.
He is an old woman it sounds like now
Clapton is pop, son
Eric Clapton got everything he knows from Freddie King. As he aged he never got any better or original. Subjective
@@theonemodifier he even copied his singing style from him
Which albums you've recorded do you consider most superior to Bluesbreakers, Disraeli Gears, Wheels of Fire, Blind Faith, Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs, 461 Ocean Blvd., and Slowhand?
@@ptownscribe1254What a novel concept. Only musicians with multiple recorded albums are allowed to comment. Just for reference can you name a few of your best ones? I'm positively brimming with excitement at the prospect.
@@user-dh5bnafe4b Who said only recorded musicians can comment? Not me. But it's not too much to ask a person who dismisses a legendary musician/performer's entire career to define their terms. I love Freddy King and I love Eric Clapton and believe there is minimal overlap between the two beyond EC's first year or two of recording. I give credit where credit is due. Those who don't are the same as EC dismissing Zeppelin, although even he explained why he didn't like their sound.
You asked the OP what albums they had recorded which they considered superior to a number of Clapton's. That reads like you expected them to have personally recorded albums of their own. Perhaps you meant what records by other musicians which they personally owned. If so, please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding.
If it's too loud, you're too old.
The Dead made some memorable studio albums such as Working Man's Dead or American Beauty. Garcia didn't repeat the same old blues-box lick 🎸 over and over again, he created inspired improvisations.
He's not wrong.