Lalonde played a fairly "safe" style of hockey. We have weapons both in our forward group but our d-corp as well. A more aggressive mentality might suit this roster better. Don't forget McClellan coached when Holmstrom was a fixture on this roster. Hopefully they can get more net front presence (that Mickey has been begging for). We'll see, but I liked him when he was here as an assistant. Bottom line is we needed a change as Lalonde was falling into the same trap as Blashill did (constantly shuffling lines, playing ineffective players over effective ones, etc).
0 creativity. He was a defensive coach with no real defense. He just had a dump the puck strategy to keep a lower scoring game...that's not defense! Still, he got us close to a playoff spot last year so I wish him well elsewhere
NHL coach experience ✅ Winning record ✅ Playoff experience ✅ Has hair ✅ Not Lalonde ✅ ✅ ✅ Thank you SY for this gift. Newsy has been trying to dig out of the mud hole for too long. The boys were depressed and directionless. The fans were calling for blood. Message received.
Gallant stunted the development of a lot of the Rangers young prospects. He's not exactly the type of guy you want on a rebuilding team. He might be a decent choice once our core prospects are developed and playing in the Show.
Trust me u don't want gallant. I thought I wanted him also. But I did some research, and with the players we have coming out of the pipeline, gallant is not the coach for us. I agree with this guy ☝️☝️
Come on Lego, Yzerman ruthless? This had to be in the works for days if not longer. Too many things had to occur to pull off these four moves; Lalonde, Boughner, McLellan, Yawney. It didn’t all happen on Dec 26th, it was announced today.
Ruthless 😂😂your you tube videos are ruthless Todd McClellan is a former redwing assistant coach who has a lot of NHL winning experience and is a good fit for the organization and yzerman knows him well he’s known him since 2006 so this signing and move is abig win hats off to Steve yzerman for this
I am glad we have new coach. After the bad trades in off season, hopefully this will get us back to moving in the right direction like last season. We have good players now, better ones last season, but we have a good future roster. I have been thinking sy is just waiting it out for young guys to move up, we as fans cant take that.
I like McLellan over Lalonde but he really underachieving with elite talent in San Jose. That being said, I also acknowledge that we could see a Paul Maurice type of resurgence with the Wings. We'll see what happens. I'm gonna be optimistic about this.
Far too many Wings casually skating by checks and just giving low effort. The Wings need more aggression, more physicality and more acountability. I cant wait to see the Edvinson/ASP pairing. Wings should get a sturdy, physical defensively responsible LD to play with Seider and make the Edvinson/ASP pairing happen.
@@AshleyBidensBathTime The game that sealed Newsy's fate was that 4-0 loss that Detroit got dominated in. Montreal was two of many examples that set the stage.
I think Boughner was doing more harm, so I'm happy he's out too. But in that game against the Blues, they were playing to send a message to management... so I'm happy the change was made.
Hey, Lego, I really also wanna point out that there is a portion of wings fans, myself included, that argue that Steve Yzerman actually regressed the team this previous off-season. Losing pieces like Perron, Maatta, and others(some of them for literally nothing) plus poor coaching is how we ended up here. We barely got close to the playoffs last year, we make a bunch of poor off-season decisions, and now here we are. A worse team than we were last year at this time.
newsey has a guaranteed contract. not gonna lose sleep over the timing. should have been fired over last seasons collapse. but they are keeping Yaney. wasn't he in charge of special teams? red wings near the bottom of the league ( second to last) in PK. PP was ranked 11, but the PK was horrible.
Joel Quenville was the coach you should of went after or when Boston fired Montgomery I figured that was the chance before St Louis jumped on him. New Z is an assistant coach, just like Blashill was, you'll never see New Z as a head coach again.
Now all they have to do is replace 95% of their roster and maybe they will make the playoffs someday. Too little, too late. At least for this year. They should have changed coaches last year after they completely collapsed and blew their lead in the playoff race.
@@ScoobyDadWho's the one player you would keep? I would be very upset if it isn't Larkin. I would be very upset if it isn't Seider. I would be very upset if it isn't Raymond. And I would be very upset if it isn't Kasper, now that he's one of the players on the NHL roster. We are still in a much better place than we were when Yzerman took over in 2019. Perhaps some of the free agents we have signed should be let go, but Larkin, Seider, and Raymond have proven that they are a core we can build around. And while Kasper's NHL sample size is too small to say the same thing yet, everything he has shown us so far is quite good.
We literally just need a #2 center and a #4 dman. Asp will be here next year as the #3, and cossa will be sharing the net with Talbot. Danielson will likely fill out the #2 c spot next year (possibly 3c)
I think this is potentially a good thing, but the bigger issue is still the egregious lack of blue line depth. Seider and Edvinsson are next level awesome, but they don't have any legitimate second pair player. Nothing even close. I think that hurts them even more than the disappointing seasons from Kane, Tarasenko, and Compher.
Yzerman should be fired next, this is just to save his own skin. Look how successful the Yzerplan has been. The Wings are second last in the conference, only 2 points ahead of Buffalo who recently lost 12 in a row.
It's a gift to the fans that Yzerman didn't wait until the end of the season to dump Lalonde. Anybody with eyes can see that it has been all bad for a while....I still say the roster is just a lot weaker than last year but Lalonde lost his oomph After watching the last few games, the entire roster can GO except for the youngsters. Hoping Yzerman makes bold moves if veterans continue to blatantly slack
Steve hired a soft coach in Lalonde to lead the team someone that would take orders and buy time. Steve sounds very depressed his voice has no inflection. He sounds like he's a hostage no fire in the belly. I don't know how he pulled off success in Tampa. I understand every situation is different, but given the amount of time he's had you can't even make the playoffs come on now. Honestly, I feel that I have been transported back to the 1970s all those losing years. I'm not an expert. I'm just an old fan since the late 60s that has spent his hard earn money supporting this team.
The coaching change is really not going to make that big of a difference. The players are supposed to be professionals so they should know what it takes to win, but they're just not taking it upon themselves to do so.
I say, they move some vets out. Get a couple 2nd/3rds for kane/vlad. Eat some salary on shitrot or holl if you can move them for a higher pick or two. Buy petry out this spring.
Because yzerman is comfortable with mclellan having mclellan as ass't coach his final season under babs and needed a coach with experience this hire. No more ahl caliber coaches for wings. Bye Bye uncle fester. And yzerman ruthless-this firing was way overdue. Maybe kane and cat will pay attention to some d now. Look for another yzerman move in trade by tdl.
I am happy about the change but when push comes to shove , the gm is the one who assembled this team. We have many d line 3rd liners (at best) and many bad contracts. We have a few gems but if this was any other gm , they would have been fired.
Steve's bread and butter is on the other end of I-96. Tarasenko was a great signing until he under-preformed and much of Detroit;s issues on D are linked to Lalonde's passive strategy that kills our momentum. It took Jim Devellano about five years to get a competitive team after the dead wings era..... and even then it was another five to challenge for the cup. Yzerman took over a team in far worse shape and is building a team that will compete and challenge without spinning the wheels once the prospects get here.
Would you of singed Holl, Chiarot or Petry? Plus we were so close last year. I give Stevie the benefit of the doubt as holland screwed us by trading for picks to keep the playoff streak alive… to go out in the 1st round. If no playoffs in two more years Idk
Hopefully, this will still emphasize defense, but with a more aggressive approach. Whether the Wings have the players for that is another matter. But young guys fore checking sounds good to me. 🏒LGRW
Lalonde played a fairly "safe" style of hockey. We have weapons both in our forward group but our d-corp as well. A more aggressive mentality might suit this roster better. Don't forget McClellan coached when Holmstrom was a fixture on this roster. Hopefully they can get more net front presence (that Mickey has been begging for). We'll see, but I liked him when he was here as an assistant. Bottom line is we needed a change as Lalonde was falling into the same trap as Blashill did (constantly shuffling lines, playing ineffective players over effective ones, etc).
Need a heavy metal coach so the team plays like Metallica not a coach that plays like the beetles.
Hopefully Todd can turn Rass into Holmer lite
Coaching change will make no difference.
0 creativity. He was a defensive coach with no real defense. He just had a dump the puck strategy to keep a lower scoring game...that's not defense!
Still, he got us close to a playoff spot last year so I wish him well elsewhere
The roster is unbalanced and there’s not a 0.950 goalie to solve the effect.
NHL coach experience ✅
Winning record ✅
Playoff experience ✅
Has hair ✅
Not Lalonde ✅ ✅ ✅
Thank you SY for this gift. Newsy has been trying to dig out of the mud hole for too long. The boys were depressed and directionless. The fans were calling for blood. Message received.
Nice. I agree. We needed a change, so hopefully this gives us direction.
diifrent coach same old results this team ia garbage it has no defense
@ did you think it was going to change overnight?
First Red Wings head coach fired during a season in 39 years
The last time Yzerman fired a coach mid season, he hired Cooper as the replacement
Would have preferred Gerard Gallant, but McClellan is a clear upgrade over Lalonde.
Gallant stunted the development of a lot of the Rangers young prospects. He's not exactly the type of guy you want on a rebuilding team. He might be a decent choice once our core prospects are developed and playing in the Show.
Trust me u don't want gallant. I thought I wanted him also. But I did some research, and with the players we have coming out of the pipeline, gallant is not the coach for us. I agree with this guy ☝️☝️
Hardly call him ruthless lol gave the dude 2+ years when he shouldn't have gotten out of 2 😂
Finally Detroit doesnt hire ah AHL coach or an assistant
Wasn't McLellan our old assistant coach?
@walexander8378 yeah in that sense sure but im more talking about a guy with actual HC experience, not like how Newsy was when we hired him
Dan Watson is a phenomenal coach. He is, and has been very good with the walleye and griffins
I have been waiting for this since last year.. hopefully the Toddfather delivers!
Come on Lego, Yzerman ruthless? This had to be in the works for days if not longer. Too many things had to occur to pull off these four moves; Lalonde, Boughner, McLellan, Yawney. It didn’t all happen on Dec 26th, it was announced today.
Ruthless 😂😂your you tube videos are ruthless
Todd McClellan is a former redwing assistant coach who has a lot of NHL winning experience and is a good fit for the organization and yzerman knows him well he’s known him since 2006 so this signing and move is abig win hats off to Steve yzerman for this
Lmfaooo 😭😭😭😂😂💯
@@Nall412your reply makes no sense 😂
THX, Lego! Finally 2 good News for the Wings! :)
I am glad we have new coach. After the bad trades in off season, hopefully this will get us back to moving in the right direction like last season. We have good players now, better ones last season, but we have a good future roster. I have been thinking sy is just waiting it out for young guys to move up, we as fans cant take that.
I think McClellen will be a great coach for us with his style. I think we need to be more aggressive. I like it.
I like McLellan over Lalonde but he really underachieving with elite talent in San Jose. That being said, I also acknowledge that we could see a Paul Maurice type of resurgence with the Wings. We'll see what happens. I'm gonna be optimistic about this.
Far too many Wings casually skating by checks and just giving low effort. The Wings need more aggression, more physicality and more acountability.
I cant wait to see the Edvinson/ASP pairing. Wings should get a sturdy, physical defensively responsible LD to play with Seider and make the Edvinson/ASP pairing happen.
Woo hoo, it’s about time.
Montreal delivered the final dagger 😃
No.... St. Louis did. 4-0.
@
Maybe. I meant more like a crappy team like Montreal beat us twice in a row?
You’re fired!!🤬
😃
@@AshleyBidensBathTime The game that sealed Newsy's fate was that 4-0 loss that Detroit got dominated in. Montreal was two of many examples that set the stage.
As big of a disappointment the Yzerman era has been, there’s no denying he’s hit on his 1st rounders so far
I think Boughner was doing more harm, so I'm happy he's out too. But in that game against the Blues, they were playing to send a message to management... so I'm happy the change was made.
Yzerman should have had to win a fight against Boughner to be able to fire him. Gotta put that clause in his next contract wherever he ends up
Detroit Red Wings need a new general manager more than anything else
Hey, Lego, I really also wanna point out that there is a portion of wings fans, myself included, that argue that Steve Yzerman actually regressed the team this previous off-season. Losing pieces like Perron, Maatta, and others(some of them for literally nothing) plus poor coaching is how we ended up here.
We barely got close to the playoffs last year, we make a bunch of poor off-season decisions, and now here we are. A worse team than we were last year at this time.
Alex Tanguay has nine lives survived another coach
Tanguay's main role is maintaining the powerplay unit... They've been top 10 all year and were dogshit before he stepped in. He's done his job.
Alex Tanguay is one of the best assistants in the league.
newsey has a guaranteed contract. not gonna lose sleep over the timing. should have been fired over last seasons collapse. but they are keeping Yaney. wasn't he in charge of special teams? red wings near the bottom of the league ( second to last) in PK. PP was ranked 11, but the PK was horrible.
He ran the power play not pk
Joel Quenville was the coach you should of went after or when Boston fired Montgomery I figured that was the chance before St Louis jumped on him. New Z is an assistant coach, just like Blashill was, you'll never see New Z as a head coach again.
Now all they have to do is replace 95% of their roster and maybe they will make the playoffs someday. Too little, too late. At least for this year. They should have changed coaches last year after they completely collapsed and blew their lead in the playoff race.
So out of 20 players replace 19? Okay. Really good strategy
@@ScoobyDadWho's the one player you would keep? I would be very upset if it isn't Larkin. I would be very upset if it isn't Seider. I would be very upset if it isn't Raymond. And I would be very upset if it isn't Kasper, now that he's one of the players on the NHL roster.
We are still in a much better place than we were when Yzerman took over in 2019. Perhaps some of the free agents we have signed should be let go, but Larkin, Seider, and Raymond have proven that they are a core we can build around. And while Kasper's NHL sample size is too small to say the same thing yet, everything he has shown us so far is quite good.
@@jeremykraenzlein5975he was being sarcastic
We literally just need a #2 center and a #4 dman.
Asp will be here next year as the #3, and cossa will be sharing the net with Talbot.
Danielson will likely fill out the #2 c spot next year (possibly 3c)
@ I suspect ASP will start in GR. We may see Danielsson next year though.
NHL teams keep recycling the same old washed up coaches. Gross.
I think this is potentially a good thing, but the bigger issue is still the egregious lack of blue line depth. Seider and Edvinsson are next level awesome, but they don't have any legitimate second pair player. Nothing even close. I think that hurts them even more than the disappointing seasons from Kane, Tarasenko, and Compher.
We have asp coming next year. Lots of good #4 Domen available via trade or free agency to pair with pelikka
should hire a heavy metal coach like Jurgen Klopp was for liverpool. Full aggression.
With Odin On Their Side They'd Be Victorious!
Yzerman should be fired next, this is just to save his own skin. Look how successful the Yzerplan has been. The Wings are second last in the conference, only 2 points ahead of Buffalo who recently lost 12 in a row.
I hope we immediately get away from the man on man coverage in the D zone. ASP🔥
Wow … you figured it out …. 6 plus years later when you finally got done sobbing his knob.
It's a gift to the fans that Yzerman didn't wait until the end of the season to dump Lalonde. Anybody with eyes can see that it has been all bad for a while....I still say the roster is just a lot weaker than last year but Lalonde lost his oomph
After watching the last few games, the entire roster can GO except for the youngsters. Hoping Yzerman makes bold moves if veterans continue to blatantly slack
It's a beginning! GO WINGS
Steve hired a soft coach in Lalonde to lead the team someone that would take orders and buy time. Steve sounds very depressed his voice has no inflection. He sounds like he's a hostage no fire in the belly. I don't know how he pulled off success in Tampa. I understand every situation is different, but given the amount of time he's had you can't even make the playoffs come on now. Honestly, I feel that I have been transported back to the 1970s all those losing years. I'm not an expert. I'm just an old fan since the late 60s that has spent his hard earn money supporting this team.
The coaching change is really not going to make that big of a difference. The players are supposed to be professionals so they should know what it takes to win, but they're just not taking it upon themselves to do so.
New coach bump is a thing.
Yes a Head Coach is a big deal to a winning team.
Pretty sure they thought Lalonde was a "great hire" as well.
I say, they move some vets out. Get a couple 2nd/3rds for kane/vlad. Eat some salary on shitrot or holl if you can move them for a higher pick or two. Buy petry out this spring.
Uncle fester shoukda been gone after the wings fell apart at the end of last season,...hope it's not a day late and a dollar short
The wings talent is thin after the best 5 or 6 players.
Because yzerman is comfortable with mclellan having mclellan as ass't coach his final season under babs and needed a coach with experience this hire. No more ahl caliber coaches for wings. Bye Bye uncle fester. And yzerman ruthless-this firing was way overdue. Maybe kane and cat will pay attention to some d now. Look for another yzerman move in trade by tdl.
its pronounced boog-ner
I am happy about the change but when push comes to shove , the gm is the one who assembled this team. We have many d line 3rd liners (at best) and many bad contracts. We have a few gems but if this was any other gm , they would have been fired.
Steve's bread and butter is on the other end of I-96. Tarasenko was a great signing until he under-preformed and much of Detroit;s issues on D are linked to Lalonde's passive strategy that kills our momentum.
It took Jim Devellano about five years to get a competitive team after the dead wings era..... and even then it was another five to challenge for the cup.
Yzerman took over a team in far worse shape and is building a team that will compete and challenge without spinning the wheels once the prospects get here.
Would you of singed Holl, Chiarot or Petry? Plus we were so close last year. I give Stevie the benefit of the doubt as holland screwed us by trading for picks to keep the playoff streak alive… to go out in the 1st round. If no playoffs in two more years Idk
He should’ve just fired one of the assistant coaches and put lalonde as assistant coach..
That would never work. Lalonde will be an an assistant on a team next year.
lol… no
Absurd. Yzerman should have fired him last year, for sure.
Hopefully, this will still emphasize defense, but with a more aggressive approach. Whether the Wings have the players for that is another matter. But young guys fore checking sounds good to me. 🏒LGRW
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