The Panel Antenna Antenna Basics

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  • In this video we build a very basic panel antenna using an online panel antenna calculator.
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  • @MirceaVlad
    @MirceaVlad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this video is really underappreciated. I built this antenna following all the details and I obtained a very good antenna. I even measured it with a NanoVNA and it is spot on channel 3. It was one of the easiest 2.4GHz antennas I've built. I must admit that the only question I have is regarding the length of the inset feedline. Why is that 15.6mm long? I know that is twice the 7.8mm, but why?

    • @LotosAndEarth
      @LotosAndEarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      for 50 Ohm i suppose not for 75 ohm cable

    • @MQM360
      @MQM360 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you be more specific?? Are you considering wire Ohms to build antenna

    • @merituum7193
      @merituum7193 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MQM360 to match the impendance of antenna to the cable

  • @thecentralscrutinizer5105
    @thecentralscrutinizer5105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah!!!...More Andrew RF video's!!!
    You're my Idol my man ;)
    ~Whirled Peas

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy them 😀

    • @FirstLast-jf9on
      @FirstLast-jf9on 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewmcneil
      Hey Andrew, I'm just curious; can you add a parasitic element on a panel antenna.?

  • @TuttleScott
    @TuttleScott 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what advantages does a panel antenna have over other types? wouldn't a dipole in front of a reflector work just as well?

  • @cyberjack
    @cyberjack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you got a link to the threaded connectors ? .. thanks

  • @TheElectronicDilettante
    @TheElectronicDilettante 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you think the performance of this build would change if instead of the square panels, each panel wrapped around onto itself so there was an inner ring and outter ring but fed the ssme way.

  • @wlkilmer
    @wlkilmer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Andrew.

  • @vyrtualtecnologia
    @vyrtualtecnologia ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you seen the Mikrotik MantBox 52? They are dual band and are made with gutter cans. If you have an Email I'll send you a photo but I recommend buying one for testing. Really interesting.
    I use it for precision farming.

  • @jukkapekkaylitalo
    @jukkapekkaylitalo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make video going more detail about feed taps, and is there some formula what those lengths should be? Also how to make defective ground structure. Does the spot and shape of those make much difference? I tried to find info about them, but most research papers. Only cover other dimensions, but not the feed tap gap and DGS.

  • @xsirfr1958
    @xsirfr1958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Andrew - I like this design, there is something very pleasing about its simplicity. If you were to array 4 of these in a row, would the pitch be about the same as the width? I am thinking to make a corporate feed on microstrip, on a 2 layer FR4 PCB, and the air patch elements would be mounted on the ground plane side, fed thru vias. What do you think?

  • @eswnl1
    @eswnl1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tend to see a patch antenna as a glorified capacitor. If I measure the VSWR, you'd think it would higher than 1:1 due to this capacitance, but it's not. So I'm a bit confused.

  • @EMNM22
    @EMNM22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im intrested in making my own indoor panel antenna for tv. Is it possible to use this style of antenna to recieve tv channel signals?

  • @sgalien6661
    @sgalien6661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andrew, question... When you say about getting the nano test equipment to refine the ant could you perhaps show how to refine, give several examples please as this is something we dont see anywhere!
    Kind regards Chris A

  • @kertjans8794
    @kertjans8794 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When using the on-line calculator, what value to you enter for the Dielectric Constant for this design?

  • @FrederickHyltonDei
    @FrederickHyltonDei 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, could you make batwing antenna and make your comments on its performance.

  • @cristianmonacelli5180
    @cristianmonacelli5180 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, good video, im making this antenna for university.
    How thick is the brass sheet?

  • @WYLMAS
    @WYLMAS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it possible to make it a wideband antenna? I am looking for something directional that would cover 4G bands from 800 MHz to 2.6 GHz

    • @requiem4adreamc
      @requiem4adreamc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be awesome

    • @LotosAndEarth
      @LotosAndEarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      try heelical or other wide band antennas

    • @WYLMAS
      @WYLMAS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LotosAndEarth doesn't really work for my application as I want to put it into a weatherproof box together with the modem. A biquaq option that Andrew is working on now (recent video) is closed to what I am looking for.

  • @onetwothreefourfivesixlemo638
    @onetwothreefourfivesixlemo638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you think of the 2.4ghz curtain antenna designs?

  • @stevefox3763
    @stevefox3763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What sort or gain does it have and how do you determine vertical or horizontal polarisation when its square and symmetrical, I'd like to try one for FPV and it looks more compact than a 2.4ghz double bi quad, how do the two compare?
    I'm looking for the most directional and high gain on 2.4ghz for FPV.

    • @FirstLast-jf9on
      @FirstLast-jf9on 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, you can basically see how he positioned the antenna.

  • @djtahir7752
    @djtahir7752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job sir ...keep it ...

  • @billysgeo
    @billysgeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    have you ordered a nanoVNA yet??

  • @americanmegatrends1406
    @americanmegatrends1406 ปีที่แล้ว

    БОЛЬШОЕ ВАМ СПАСИБО !!!

  • @fiorenzomass827
    @fiorenzomass827 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video ! Are the spacers made of insulating material? How do you calculate the size of the reflector? Thank you

    • @TonyLing
      @TonyLing 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are black nylon I believe, so yes, an insulator.

  • @Jonny10001
    @Jonny10001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Andrew, the online calculator doesn’t mention the coax connection strip. The length, width or the amount to cut in. I wish to make an antenna for 1278MHz.
    .

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No it doesn’t the design of the strip feed is a whole other area of RF. That’s why in the video I say that starting with 1/8 wavelength is a good place to start.

  • @cgsample9948
    @cgsample9948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No need for the blasting music.

    • @eswnl1
      @eswnl1 ปีที่แล้ว

      These TH-camrs need to dumb down their videos a bit to get those extra views.

  • @razblack
    @razblack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it possible to combine two patch panel antennas together to say tune one for 2.4 and another for 5Ghz?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Somebody as just asked the same question. I have read about stacked panels before but I have never made one. Maybe I will give it a go. 😀

  • @luc5543
    @luc5543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you go about making one for both 2.4 and 5 GHz? Make a smaller square, put it in front of the 2.4 panel?how is the sma cable connected in this case?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have seen them stacked but never tested or build one myself.

    • @luc5543
      @luc5543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewmcneil that'd be nice to see in a video, especially for LTE purposes :)

  • @mamupelu565
    @mamupelu565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you setup the antenna-osciloscope to see it's efficiency?

    • @cosmefulanito5933
      @cosmefulanito5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is not an ociloscope. It's a spectrum analyzer.

    • @gammaleader96
      @gammaleader96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cosmefulanito5933 It's a network analyzer to be more precise. By the looks of it a scalar version (atleast like he uses it).
      However, a setup video would still be pretty interesting.
      Especially since a network analyzer needs to be calibrated for each measurement with known open, short and load standards.

  • @charlesjoshualabtang2193
    @charlesjoshualabtang2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the gain of this antenna?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8db

    • @charlesjoshualabtang2193
      @charlesjoshualabtang2193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewmcneil is there a way to increase gain of this type of antenna?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesjoshualabtang2193 by adding multiple elements in an array

  • @m0rc0v
    @m0rc0v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if this works for 2.4GHz spectrum, will it work for the 868 MHz too or we have to change some things ?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You would have to change it's size

    • @m0rc0v
      @m0rc0v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewmcneil ok, thanks.. but any formula/hint how to calculate the size ?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@m0rc0v Here you go just use the dielectric constant of air which is 1 www.pasternack.com/t-calculator-microstrip-ant.aspx

    • @m0rc0v
      @m0rc0v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewmcneil wow... thanks... and the dielectric height is the E from the little drawing? ie, the distance between the 2 plates ?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@m0rc0v yep if you play around with the height it is interesting how much this effects the size of the element.

  • @cosmefulanito5933
    @cosmefulanito5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talk more loudly or turn down the music.

  • @stridermt2k
    @stridermt2k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Show of hands: Who else is watching antennas at 7:22 UTC?
    (me)
    73 de N2NLQ