While I hate the FFXIV Housing System, I love the PvP mode and just released a new controller guide for Reaper. Hope you enjoy that video as it's way more excited and positive then this one: th-cam.com/video/vTp_Bb0opMY/w-d-xo.html
Just don't read the Reddit forums, bunch of contrarians and trolls would like to say otherwise, but they're either arguing just to argue, clueless as hell, or simping for a system they benefit from.
I have said this since storm blood, private housing needs to be instanced with the ability for people on your friends list to teleport to. FC housing needs to be in wards with every FC able to have a house that starts as a small and through work in the workshop you can slowly progress it to a large.
Literally dropped my sandwich and started applauding when you talk about having to pay my sub while on a break just to keep my housing, let alone my FC. And yes, the only time our "neighborhood" is full of players is when my FC has an event. I would love to see some sort of hybrid system like FFXIV wards and New World/BDO instanced housing. Glad the kids are well, cheers! 😄
I am seriously hoping that the absolutely massive reaction to Island Sanctuaries has made them reconsider it as a potential housing alternative. If island sanctuaries are even half as customizable as houses, then it might be the solution.
all this. it would be a wasted opportunity to just provide a free home on a FREAKEN Island we all would dream to have. WoL, who not only saved the world multiple times, but the entire universe. The world can at least provide the hero their own island to live.
How is taking something that is supposed to be entirely new content and adding it to an existing finite system going to change anything? If they are going to go through that trouble, they might as well just release another residential district. From what I can tell, Island Sanctuary will allow all players to be able to garden, which is content that currently has very limited accessibility. There will be more to it than just that, but housing it is not. Stop perpetuating these false expectations. Please.
At this point I really do wish it was housing, but I remember it being said that it wasn't going to be housing. At the least, maybe gardening won't be locked behind housing anymore, but I'd rather not get my hopes up for something they're likely not going to implement for a long time, if ever.
The housing system is great if you want to retain subscribers but personally I would be happy with just a instanced little shack. I think it stems from the whole “I wanna look cool” craze that is online video games these days. What would be cool is if you could do an instanced housing of some sort then customize the layout like a template, so when you did get a plot you could already have your designs and all that ready to go. Another thought is that housing is like old school MMOs in a way, you’re farming for a drop (in this case a house) with an unknown spawn and you need to potentially compete with others for that drop that will make you look cool.
I also hate the housing system. I hate how some housing areas look worst than others and its a hassle to change/move to an area you like more. Currently, I have a large in the goblet. I got it back a year and half ago bc it was the only house that wasn't a small that was open. At the time I outgrow the small house I wanted to upgrade to a med but since I waited and waited and saved 50 something mil gil a firend talked me into buying the goblet large I'm currently in. I hate the goblet, I hate how it looks and how the larges yards are designed in the goblet. I figure this be nice till I save up another 50mil to move. I thought the adding of ishgrad housing was going to be my time to move and then they drop the bomb that relocation has to do the lottery also and that when I knew my dream of living in ishgrad or at least moving out of goblet was most likely wasn't going to come true. Well, I found my plot last week I wanted and bidded on it only to lose to someone two numbers below my number. It hit me harder than I thought and I got upset. Now Im looking for another large to move to but since most wards are only fcs there are only two private larges open(one in shino and one in lav bed). At the end of the day I wish I and others didnt have to go through all this to just to have a house in an area they wanted to live in. I wish we just had instant housing that just allows you to change the skybox to the area you want to look at every day. It is stressful, depressing, and just overall not fun to deal with.
the concept of the ffxi mog house is miles better than than any ffxiv housing idea. granted you can only decorate basically a studio apartment sized room, but its your space, given for free, just because you made a character. all of your storage, all of your mailing and all of your job management was done out of that house. closest place I feel to that these days in ffxiv is my room in the Pendants Hotel of the Crystarium. That is where I log out, at the bed, every time I shutdown the game since I hopped back in 2 years ago mid-Shadowbringers.
They can't address the glamor system, so not giving everyone a house is a given. They definitely need better methods of data storage from systems. Specifically glamor, since more ppl engage with it than housing.
Honestly I hate how empty the neighborhoods are, though I hasve met some great people just chilling around the neighborhood - but usually from FC housing. In my opinion, they should keep FC housing in neighborhoods like this, but move player housing to be individual instances.
I had this idea a while back that there should be more community centric activities with people/FCs living in the same ward to encourage "neighborhood" bonding. Things like block parties or crafting Fetes (like in Ishgard Restoration) in your ward to craft decorations for an upcoming holiday, something to get players to interact with one another.
The thing that's so weird about housing is that, like almost every other system in the game, it was designed with good intentions and a sequence of mostly* logical decisions that brought it to this point… but unlike the rest of the game, the result is an unbelievable mess of pain and frustration that nobody is happy with. Most systems have been refined and iterated on, and while there will always be people upset about change, most of the time most of the people are mostly happy with things. But housing is this big glaring obvious outlier to that.
The thing about housing was, when it first came out the game wasn’t nearly as popular. There were empty plots that stayed empty for literally months. Yeah it was congested after a while and they added some new systems. The fact that the auto demolition timers are still turned off kind of exasperate things. Semiconductor shortage makes additional servers rough. So they can’t add a bunch more. This is probably an unpopular opinion but whatever. The one thing I do not want is instance housing. I’ve heard that in 11. Star Wars the Old Republic had that and while it’s cool and everything, the only thing you can really customize is the layout of the interior. The outside always looks the same for everybody. And I like the fact that there’s actual neighborhoods with physical structures. So when it comes to instant housing, just like everybody that was screaming for the watery color line from wizard, “you don’t want that. You think you do, but you don’t“
I also kind of feel like they should just delete it, refund people, and start housing from scratch. Obviously easier said than done, but I don’t feel like current one is sustainable
Yeah that will happen. Especially with all the people that have poured money into the cash shop for housing items. I actually own some stuff but when I gave up my house I can’t do anything with them because they are outdoor decorations. I was stupid for giving mine up. I’ve been trying to get another one for a while. When I do I’m never giving that thing up.
So frustrating. I've been trying to get a home for the entire year. Was looking to patch 6.1, and still nothing. Lost the first lottery and now I cannot enter another (not quite sure why). I hate Final Fantasy housing system.. HATE HATE HATE...
IF they don't want to give up on the ward system, they should at least just offer the option to have an instanced house that exists outside of them. And no, apartments don't count.
Thank you for expressing this. I'm hoping Island Sanctuaries will assuage the demand for in-game housing in a sense. I doubt major changes other than that will be made again, looks like we would look forward to that in the next FF mmo.
Like I said before (I think it was a Work to Game video though), FF14 housing is broken because inventory is broken. I am pretty sure you can't fix one until you fix the other. This problem extends to the market board and even your own inventory.
I hate that we are limited by the tech that we have to make housing more robust. I also hate that there are SOOO many people that play this game, that I never feel like I will get a house in the first place. I hate that even though that Yoshi-P knows there are people that have multiple houses, there is no smooth way to fix that. I hate that people forget about apartments because some of even the small houses (that aren't just locked up) barely have enough stuff to even warrant said apartments. But in reality, its just me ranting because if you were to M.I.B. housing from my brain, I would then hate the fact that MNK just feels like a 40sec NIN rotation to me. I want housing to be better, but given the history of even making this work in the first place, I can't help but wait for what's to come. Celebrate with a bottle when ever FFXIValley finally gets added and I can watch my minions do what ever it is they are going to be doing. Here's to at least getting the lottery system fixed in a timely manner.
For private houses I wish they were instance based, and just made all available houses in wards for FC's only would make wards more lively with FC members and make it so you have your own home in its own area and have an invite system to show people your set up. I know its never gonna happen and if it did would take a very long time to develop but this would be way less stressful. then it's just FC's competing for ward plots and everyone still gets their chance at doing up their own house.
One of the problems about houses is that there are a lot of empty houses and that there are many FCs that have only one member, because of house. Yeah its more fair to have lottery, but i agree that if housing could be instanced it could bring a lot of new things. I play FFXIV since WOW patch 8.2.5, because i wanted try it, i fell in love with this game, but still there are some personal problems and house is one of them, i play FFXIV about 2 years now (with breaks) and still i dont own house and i love decorations, i am creative person so everything about building, glamour, indoor design is my cup of tea, but sadly i lost chance to have house by one number. RIP my could have been house.
I would take a break Yoshi-P... if it weren't for the fact that i'd lose my small Shirogane House which i have positive memories of building and getting friends to help me decorate it.
I love it when people rant because they didn't get a house lmao. Tbh, at this point, housing is to flex. I remember camping 19hr for an S plot at Shirogane beachside. I prefer the current system where I leave it to luck, much better for my health. And remember they add the condition that only 1 acc/house/dc, so yeah, if you don't get it at the first time, you have chances later. Or move to a server with less people.
@@GingerPrimeGaming to be fair, once you have a house, now you have this ever present problem of "if I forget to log in for too long, I'll lose it" so now you have this sword of damocles hanging over you, be subscribed or else..
Housing in ffxiv is definitely a rough subject. The barriers to entry are some of what I would consider the worst problems the game has. I hope they someday find a way to open it up to everyone, but in the meantime, I’m happy they are making changes to try to improve the experience. My absolute least favorite part was having to sit at a placard spamming for hours on end, only for the plot to sell minutes after I’m forced to step away. The lottery system has removed that problem, but it will unfortunately magnify the lack of available plots available in general.
Hope your family is doing well Brian, it is always stressful when those close to us are not healthy. On the topic of housing, your quote "It requires so much from the developers to support it" nails the crux of the issue the way I see it. Players have an expectation of what housing is in Final Fantasy 14, and it is almost impossible for the devs to completely revamp the housing system (e.g. An FC that has had an estate in Lavender beds for 5 years will expect to continue holding that same estate). Regardless of a housing system rework, there are two really big issues that need to be solved for housing to feel sustainable and good to interact with: Not enough plots available compared to the amount of players that want housing, and the housing system seems very rigid and not extendable/extensible. For the housing system in FF14 to reach the next level, I think these systemic issues need to be addressed.
The only good thing about the lottery debacle is that it increases the amount of ire towards the housing system. FFXIV's paltry supply of available housing deserves all the hate it can get. >90% of people who want a house are barred from getting one for the sake of maintaining resource hogging neighborhoods with perpetually empty streets.
whats so hard about just having houses in major cities or even outside it as instances houses???? multlple groups or people can use the same instance like other mmos.. why does it need a dedicated freakin "neighborhood" thats so limited and restricted to who can get it... so stupid... that way we can just see peoples houses organically in towns and hubs.. not have to visit the dumb neighborhood.. where i never go cause i dont have a house anyway
I truly believe that personal houses are a huge waste and mistake, it was originally not even planned and I think was a mistake to start. Besides playing house decorator simulator the main benefits to housing is FC content. If personal housing was never a thing I think the issues and demand would be alot lot better.
The system used to be Free company housing, and once they opened it up to anyone, that's when I think things went south. I think I'd rather have it be one neighborhood (or a few neighboorhoods) and houses are instanced to you the player like how other MMOs have handled it.
This last go around, I had to choose between helping the FC relocate, and attempting to get a personal house. I don't like that choice, but after learning that SE basically did us dirty with the FC/personal housing split... I chose to help the FC relocate. I know I will likely never be able to participate in any workshop stuff, I will never be able to garden, and (as of right now) I'm still waiting and hoping that I can grab a house somewhere because the competition for the personal houses is going to be insane. I expect that most personal houses are going to be gone within a cycle or two, and I will (once again) be stuck waiting and watching for more personal houses. Even though an apartment or FC room exists... it's completely laughable to even try to equate either to a house. I'm hoping Island Sanctuaries helps mitigate some of this, and I'll be forever wondering why we Garlond Ironworks doesn't grant us workshop access considering all we have done for them over the years. But until this situation changes, it's more waiting and watching.... as the playerbase gets more bitter and toxic over this entire broken feature...
Nothing you need to apologize for but as a dad I can definitely related to the headspace your kids being sick can put you in. I think you were very fair in how you presented your thought here though which is why you don’t need the apology, and I know hate is a strong word but it wasn’t even the most negative thing in the world since you used to word to really craft a great script with a lot of impact to get your point across.
The best part is wait until 6.2 and you be going this is the way it Should of Started and the way it should of been. Long live Farmville. Yoshi-P: You will build your Farm & Run it plus you can build a House to call your own on said land. Yoshi-P Now how do we fix the issue with Housing. to me looks like you have one but will not put it in Place until 6.2
That's the hope, but that's also my fear, that people put all their eggs in that basket... but then that's the fear, that it doesn't do that, and then after 6.2 you see even more players upset because they put all their hope in Island Sanctuary. :S I hope it's great though...
@@GingerPrimeGaming The only thing I was luck to get was an Apartment in FF14 and needing the money instead just gave it up so I only have the start place and yet no issues with it. So am I putting my Eggs in 1 basket No because I can live with a roof above my head.
I dont understand where people keep coming up with Island Sanctuaries fixing the housing issue. It has never been once stated that is the intent behind them and its been stated multiple times that they are going to be seperate systems. People spreading misinformation stuff like this constantly is just gonna make it worse in the end because people dont listen.
Oh no. I think a LOT of us can agree and relate to this. OH SO MUCH. The actual houses are amazing and show oh so much creativity. The lengths you have to go to get one? Not so much. You know what it reminds me of? Trying to buy next gen console. You have to hope to god you get lucky enough to be able to buy one when really, just like buying consoles in the olden days, the only barrier to entry should be cost. You have enough money? There you go. You get a house! It's just one of those problems that would have a solution that would probably please everyone somehow if someone would just think about it for two minutes.
Honestly, they should've just nicked the "Dimension" housing from RIFT. It was instanced without neighborhoods, but that was only because you could buy certain pieces of land that actually exist in the open world and turn them into your personal dewlling place (within item limit restrictions). I've seen people who bought a small island, only to ignore the land and build a whole area of Asian inspired fantasy buildings out of enlarged boats and other repurposed items on the water around it. Canyons and cliffsides with elaborate jumping puzzles, outdoor pools turned into snowscapes... the creativity was only limited by the amount of items you could place inside the respective dimension size. There were even projectors you could get for certain achievements or special currency that changed the sky and lighting in the whole area. And the best thing? You could have several dimensions on one each of your characters as long as you got the ingame money to buy them. But, I guess, the FFXIV engine can't handle something like that... I still miss my remodeled tavern turned mage residence in my self-made pine forest. So many hours wasted on PvP just to buy that night sky projector... Also, yes, guild dimensions were a thing, too, and they had raid trophies like dragon heads and other stuff that you could display in them.
As frustrating as the housing system is the responses that some players give are absolutely ridiculous and disgusting sometimes. Going so far to say that the devs should lose their jobs and livelihoods, and undoubtedly worse too, is mind boggling….
I mean, to be fair, if I do a bad job, I get fired. I'm a bit uncertain why a decade of bad jobs from the devs should be forgiven. Ignoring the vitriol some people have, this is the cardinal rule in every single job, so why not here? Am I to forgive every show of incompetence or lack of foresight just because? I understand you speak from a place of emotion and sympathy, but when money is involved, a level of accountability cannot be ignored and "I'm sorry" only takes us so far. Again, especially after 10 years.
9 months later honestly still dont like the lottery but its better than what we use to have....as for instance housing i would just recommend people go make an apartment or fc room o. o at this point. If no one bidded on 1800 plots I can't say when or where in future we will get that many plots ( maybe when housing appears on the moon)
Please accept my best wishes for you and your family. Glad to hear they’re doing better. 👍 It’s ok to be tired. It’s not embarrassing or an excuse. And it’s ok to unpack somethings when they need to be unpacked. Just don’t let the negative thoughts pollute your air for too long. 😅😉 Stay safe. ❤️ PS: That was a good rant. 😋
The housing system made me quit the game. With the release of oceanic servers I thought this is my chance. Grinded 50milliom gold, only bidder for a random house and one other bidder joins last minute and wins. Lost all motivation to continue playing.
Hm... this one slipped my radar, it seems... Yes, as much as I love housing (I'm the proud owner of a small plot - and I need two apartments to stash my stuff, because... lacking storage is a thing...), its... a monster. Breaking it down and building it right up may be a solution but... well, only if the old system is kept alive until the other can be released - like what they did with ARR nad 1.0. Anything else would get people on the barricades... and I'm afraid I would join them. The system as it is now... is the best we can have atm... Its not good (why do we have 19 FC-only wards??? I mean, 19!!!) but its... Its just too limited. People who have a small plot, want a large one, people who dont have any plot want one, those who have a medium plot probably want a large one, and the ones with a large one want more items to put down or at least store. Then the clunkey placement of items (a floor item cant be put on a table e.g.) ... On one hand, housing is a major feature, on the other... it seems it kept alive on life-support instead of some serious medication. None of us knows SEs list of priorities. But we get those islands... maybe they might allow for some steam release... Also, what I hate to see is empty houses, with empty gardens. The lottery system doesnt solve the overall problem but at least it prevents people selling their houses (aka moving out and letting someelse purchesing it who already has a house elsewhere - not possible anymore, thank god!). Not that that was the only problem...
Hell YEA!!!!! I Totally Agree!! I have stayed away from housing cause I always takes breaks FF14 and regret the one time I did not knowing I was going to lose my house.
The housing system as it now is, is bad and should be scrapped, and I am saying this as someone who has a house ingame that I love. Housing should be the most casual content that everyone should be able to take part in, but due to some very bad design decisions it is a system that many are locked out from, and that is the part I hate about it. As you said the areas are mostly empty, where I have my house it is at most me and a player who have access to my house. So I say scrap it and make something everyone who wants to can partake in.
even though I'm not particularly convinced on individual instanced housing I can definitely see and empathise with your frustrations. I don't think you should apologise at all. I feel like people need to back up a bit and let the developers test out the lottery system properly. if there's truly no interest in it the devs may think about changing it in the future. this system was implemented to fix days of placard clicking not overhaul the entire system which it seems like everyone was under the impression this would be... people would literally risk their health and well-being for a house before... this system was meant to curb that. Plus, (and this is an opinion so don't skewer me) individual housing others can't see would just bore me as a person who actively loves going house hopping in game. but that's my personal taste and I know I'm def in the minority here lol. tldr; for various reasons I don't align with your stances on this but never apologise for thinking this (if anything your in the majority right now or at least the camp who's the loudest)
Your own family is far more important than a fair system where everyone gets to play virtual Barbie, Bryan. It has to be said, dude. Don't let this get under your skin when there are FAR more important things to be worried about. If that's sounds dismissive to the frustrations of other players, it's meant to be. The game is supposed to be an enjoyable escapism from the exact kind of things I was referring to that do take precedence in our lives, and easily 90% of the playerbase forgets this and/or takes their time online for granted by allowing trivial matters to overtake their entire mental state. I highly recommend taking an extended break away from the game.
Don’t feel bad about being frustrated, especially about a system as faulty as FFXIV housing, seeing your kids sick is a real stresser. I hope they get better soon!
Yeah the housing system is definitely flawed, heck inventory in general is flawed. The instance neighborhood should be reserved for FCs and large plots only, but starts out as small plots and can be upgraded and maintained using company credits, cause frankly it's rather worthless I'm sitting millions credits right now with an FC of 20ish active players. Private houses should be instanced and upgradeable as you amassed more wealth, have a maintenance cost for med and large homes but not the small ones.
This was really good and reminded me of Dr Seuss and was writing that as you said it lolol. This excellently portayed both the positive and negative:) and I agree with this videos sentiments!! I want to add for myself, that I hate that any issue brings out the over the top rudeness in some players Andi hope I'm not on the same server as them tbh as it's a little scary!
@@GingerPrimeGaminglooking back I think I was a little mild. Some have been rude yes saying Yoshi P should be fired and some psycho... Sending death threats. It's a bit daunting but then this world is filled with all kinds isn't it. The key for me is to fight the urge to comment back so as not to feed those with responses and to try to be kind where I can. :) We do not want these crazy keyboard cowboys to be what speaks for us gamers.
I have always refused to engage with the housing system because it always felt like it required me to stay subbed forever. Plus the old placard meta game was silly to begin with. Deal with that headache to be rewarded with an obligation... I wanted an in game house. Not an in game mortgage. 😝
Unpopular opinion. Just a couple years ago at the end of 2019 there were still entire wards without a single house purchased, plots sat empty with a max devaluation for months. No one cared about housing. Now that people have started caring about housing, everyone hates it. You for example Ginger, you tout about playing this game for over eight years yet this is only the second time you have made a video on this topic. You had an agenda, of course, as your friend was doing the housing gauntlet for days and just like this video, it was a lot of unhelpful rambling and ranting. I would love to hear you talk about player accountability in the midst of this crisis. Why don't you talk about the people who actively purchase houses via RMT, thus giving the botters easy money and at the same time denying subscription paying legitimate players their chance to have a house? Or the players that go to the official forums and rant and rave, just like you did here, about how everything is broken and offering no constructive feedback that could actually assist the developers in making this situation more tolerable? Heavens forbid that a subscription paying player is culpable in creating this hellscape we all find ourselves in. The devs did double the amount of wards and they added Ishgard housing, are adding new data centers and Island Sanctuary is on the horizon. As well they are addressing the rampant botting via the lottery, or at least making it too much of a hassle for them to continue in huge volumes, but it didn't fix the problem completely. The devs are doing their part. There is nothing constructive about your video, you are placating the people who would rather whine and cry about a system they feel entitled to rather than help fix any issues. If I could make one major change to this system it would be to limit houses to one house PER account. FC or Personal, take your pick, but just one per subscription. It would crush so many loopholes.
I have absolutely no sympathy for botting. This whole notion of “well we had to to be able to get the house” doesn’t fly with me. That’s like saying, “well I can’t afford all the games I want so I’m forced to pirate them” In terms of the bots though. I understand the reasoning behind it. Nothing justifies cheating in my opinion. But then again I’m weird and old-school. Last thing though. It’s not enough just to have a subscription. Did you actually have to go into your house within 45 days to keep it from getting demolished. Although at the moment those timers are suspended. On the one hand it does suck but on the other hand, if you’re going to have a house and take up a finite resource, it really should go to the ones that are actively playing. It totally wouldn’t be feasible for the houses to never demolish on the their own if you aren’t active for a month and a half plus because if they didn’t, nobody would get a house. Ever. Because the people that quit the game two years ago would still have one.
I 100% agree!! Housing should never have been instanced, it should have been 10 houses within the city with a 24h bidding system that refreshes a 24h timer every time a new higher bid comes in and that's it! And everyone that feels entitled to having a house just has to suck it up and get a hotel room.
Sorry you hate it, thankfully, you don't have to engage with it. Not all systems in the game are for everyone. Maybe, this is one of those things, you should just, not do.
Yoshi P did 1.0 while 2.0 at the same time. I am hoping island sanctuaries are housing 2.0. If it is then I hope everyone who complained about housing spends as much time thanking the devs as they did complaining. But they won't they will find something else to hate on even before solutions are presented or tried. Everything they do for us is forgotten the moment there is a hick up, and personally I am tired of it. It is fine to complain but give them praise also, I am sorry I am venting as well. No one deserves death threats or harassing e-mails for a mistake that cost nothing, no gil was lost and the winners still won their houses. You do a great job praising the devs but not everyone does. It is people in game as well, all the /sh chats and /nn complaints before even giving the update a try and they call it constructive criticism and thus they think it is okay. The devs deserve the respect of us to at least trying their ideas out and give them time to figure things out if mistakes are made before we trash them or their work. Sorry this isn't aimed at you at all but I am sure you have seen the comments as well. The devs do not deserve our disrespect.
I hate the griping about it. Get an apartment. You can make a super swell living area with an apartment. I wish they kicked every player out of personal housing and every FC with under a light party(and I say this as someone with a small) and made houses FC only again and just instanced apartments and that could be player housing. They could probably cut the housing servers in half and everyone could get an apartment wherever to show off. If only so I could stop hearing people gripe about it.
Hi there, apartment owner and decorator here. Apartments are not equivalent to full housing. I can't garden. Sure, I can place pots and grow flowers and seeds, but I can't crossbreed anything, locking me out of certain plants unless I pay a good chunk of gil. I can't place outdoor decorations. I keep getting all these nice plants, but I can't put them anywhere; they can only go outside. I get a single room and while I've used every inch of that single room that I possibly can it's still very small. If they made a way for me to upgrade my apartment and give it an outdoor area so I could actually garden and place outdoor furnishings, maybe I'd agree with you. But as it stands, I look at all the houses and wish that I had the ability to decorate more than one room, choose what my outside walls look like, and be able to grow some Thavnairian Onions completely from my own work and not paying thousands of gil.
@@krysaltepsyr8134 I suspect if the game moved to a form of instanced housing, apartments is what we’d get since FFXIV’s initial housing was FC only with FC rooms for individuals. Apartments were a concession to people who wanted housing for FCless people. Then personal was opened up because wards had plots empty due to not enough FCs owning them. I imagine if they went back to the individual vision it would be better. But it doesn’t matter, no solution will please everyone as every community suggestion implemented other than scrap it and start over just gets more complaints.
I am fine with the housing system, I enjoy the current style because it makes it feel like a neighbourhood having challenges to have your house appear would just make people spam high point items and it would be ugly. There are flaws, its not perfect. I also hate how everyone hating on them for the lottery bug when mistakes happen and they apologized several times with reasons and why it happened.
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While I hate the FFXIV Housing System, I love the PvP mode and just released a new controller guide for Reaper. Hope you enjoy that video as it's way more excited and positive then this one: th-cam.com/video/vTp_Bb0opMY/w-d-xo.html
I'm definitely not helping I haven't played in years, but I log in weekly to keep my FC mansion...
You know what? Don't apologize, Brian. A crap ton of us feel the same way, and it's fine. It's an extrremely flawed system.
Just don't read the Reddit forums, bunch of contrarians and trolls would like to say otherwise, but they're either arguing just to argue, clueless as hell, or simping for a system they benefit from.
I have said this since storm blood, private housing needs to be instanced with the ability for people on your friends list to teleport to. FC housing needs to be in wards with every FC able to have a house that starts as a small and through work in the workshop you can slowly progress it to a large.
It would be the best thing in this game.
Literally dropped my sandwich and started applauding when you talk about having to pay my sub while on a break just to keep my housing, let alone my FC. And yes, the only time our "neighborhood" is full of players is when my FC has an event. I would love to see some sort of hybrid system like FFXIV wards and New World/BDO instanced housing. Glad the kids are well, cheers! 😄
Thanks Boots!
Amen to that
I am seriously hoping that the absolutely massive reaction to Island Sanctuaries has made them reconsider it as a potential housing alternative. If island sanctuaries are even half as customizable as houses, then it might be the solution.
all this. it would be a wasted opportunity to just provide a free home on a FREAKEN Island we all would dream to have.
WoL, who not only saved the world multiple times, but the entire universe.
The world can at least provide the hero their own island to live.
How is taking something that is supposed to be entirely new content and adding it to an existing finite system going to change anything? If they are going to go through that trouble, they might as well just release another residential district.
From what I can tell, Island Sanctuary will allow all players to be able to garden, which is content that currently has very limited accessibility. There will be more to it than just that, but housing it is not.
Stop perpetuating these false expectations. Please.
At this point I really do wish it was housing, but I remember it being said that it wasn't going to be housing. At the least, maybe gardening won't be locked behind housing anymore, but I'd rather not get my hopes up for something they're likely not going to implement for a long time, if ever.
The housing system is great if you want to retain subscribers but personally I would be happy with just a instanced little shack. I think it stems from the whole “I wanna look cool” craze that is online video games these days. What would be cool is if you could do an instanced housing of some sort then customize the layout like a template, so when you did get a plot you could already have your designs and all that ready to go.
Another thought is that housing is like old school MMOs in a way, you’re farming for a drop (in this case a house) with an unknown spawn and you need to potentially compete with others for that drop that will make you look cool.
I also hate the housing system. I hate how some housing areas look worst than others and its a hassle to change/move to an area you like more. Currently, I have a large in the goblet. I got it back a year and half ago bc it was the only house that wasn't a small that was open. At the time I outgrow the small house I wanted to upgrade to a med but since I waited and waited and saved 50 something mil gil a firend talked me into buying the goblet large I'm currently in. I hate the goblet, I hate how it looks and how the larges yards are designed in the goblet. I figure this be nice till I save up another 50mil to move. I thought the adding of ishgrad housing was going to be my time to move and then they drop the bomb that relocation has to do the lottery also and that when I knew my dream of living in ishgrad or at least moving out of goblet was most likely wasn't going to come true. Well, I found my plot last week I wanted and bidded on it only to lose to someone two numbers below my number. It hit me harder than I thought and I got upset. Now Im looking for another large to move to but since most wards are only fcs there are only two private larges open(one in shino and one in lav bed). At the end of the day I wish I and others didnt have to go through all this to just to have a house in an area they wanted to live in. I wish we just had instant housing that just allows you to change the skybox to the area you want to look at every day. It is stressful, depressing, and just overall not fun to deal with.
the concept of the ffxi mog house is miles better than than any ffxiv housing idea. granted you can only decorate basically a studio apartment sized room, but its your space, given for free, just because you made a character. all of your storage, all of your mailing and all of your job management was done out of that house. closest place I feel to that these days in ffxiv is my room in the Pendants Hotel of the Crystarium. That is where I log out, at the bed, every time I shutdown the game since I hopped back in 2 years ago mid-Shadowbringers.
They can't address the glamor system, so not giving everyone a house is a given. They definitely need better methods of data storage from systems. Specifically glamor, since more ppl engage with it than housing.
Honestly I hate how empty the neighborhoods are, though I hasve met some great people just chilling around the neighborhood - but usually from FC housing. In my opinion, they should keep FC housing in neighborhoods like this, but move player housing to be individual instances.
I had this idea a while back that there should be more community centric activities with people/FCs living in the same ward to encourage "neighborhood" bonding. Things like block parties or crafting Fetes (like in Ishgard Restoration) in your ward to craft decorations for an upcoming holiday, something to get players to interact with one another.
The thing that's so weird about housing is that, like almost every other system in the game, it was designed with good intentions and a sequence of mostly* logical decisions that brought it to this point… but unlike the rest of the game, the result is an unbelievable mess of pain and frustration that nobody is happy with. Most systems have been refined and iterated on, and while there will always be people upset about change, most of the time most of the people are mostly happy with things. But housing is this big glaring obvious outlier to that.
The thing about housing was, when it first came out the game wasn’t nearly as popular. There were empty plots that stayed empty for literally months. Yeah it was congested after a while and they added some new systems. The fact that the auto demolition timers are still turned off kind of exasperate things. Semiconductor shortage makes additional servers rough. So they can’t add a bunch more.
This is probably an unpopular opinion but whatever. The one thing I do not want is instance housing. I’ve heard that in 11. Star Wars the Old Republic had that and while it’s cool and everything, the only thing you can really customize is the layout of the interior. The outside always looks the same for everybody. And I like the fact that there’s actual neighborhoods with physical structures. So when it comes to instant housing, just like everybody that was screaming for the watery color line from wizard, “you don’t want that. You think you do, but you don’t“
I also kind of feel like they should just delete it, refund people, and start housing from scratch. Obviously easier said than done, but I don’t feel like current one is sustainable
Yeah that will happen. Especially with all the people that have poured money into the cash shop for housing items. I actually own some stuff but when I gave up my house I can’t do anything with them because they are outdoor decorations. I was stupid for giving mine up. I’ve been trying to get another one for a while. When I do I’m never giving that thing up.
Took a sip of beer every time you said hate. Haha glad I have a day off tomorrow! Hope your family is doing better. Love ya brother
Sounds like a fun dinking game.
So frustrating. I've been trying to get a home for the entire year. Was looking to patch 6.1, and still nothing. Lost the first lottery and now I cannot enter another (not quite sure why). I hate Final Fantasy housing system.. HATE HATE HATE...
IF they don't want to give up on the ward system, they should at least just offer the option to have an instanced house that exists outside of them. And no, apartments don't count.
Thank you for expressing this. I'm hoping Island Sanctuaries will assuage the demand for in-game housing in a sense. I doubt major changes other than that will be made again, looks like we would look forward to that in the next FF mmo.
The housing is amazing in how you can decorate it and change it. The systems in place to get one, not too great
Like I said before (I think it was a Work to Game video though), FF14 housing is broken because inventory is broken. I am pretty sure you can't fix one until you fix the other. This problem extends to the market board and even your own inventory.
Yeah, I could see that being related for sure.
I hate that we are limited by the tech that we have to make housing more robust. I also hate that there are SOOO many people that play this game, that I never feel like I will get a house in the first place. I hate that even though that Yoshi-P knows there are people that have multiple houses, there is no smooth way to fix that. I hate that people forget about apartments because some of even the small houses (that aren't just locked up) barely have enough stuff to even warrant said apartments. But in reality, its just me ranting because if you were to M.I.B. housing from my brain, I would then hate the fact that MNK just feels like a 40sec NIN rotation to me. I want housing to be better, but given the history of even making this work in the first place, I can't help but wait for what's to come. Celebrate with a bottle when ever FFXIValley finally gets added and I can watch my minions do what ever it is they are going to be doing. Here's to at least getting the lottery system fixed in a timely manner.
The struggle is super real. I wonder if island sanctuary is a redo for the housing system. Like we know very little… maybe 🤔
My worry is that it doesn't, and people have been thinking this whole time that it would
That’s true too.. i really hope they can find the space in their timeline to fix the housing. They do a great job in so many other places..
For private houses I wish they were instance based, and just made all available houses in wards for FC's only would make wards more lively with FC members and make it so you have your own home in its own area and have an invite system to show people your set up. I know its never gonna happen and if it did would take a very long time to develop but this would be way less stressful. then it's just FC's competing for ward plots and everyone still gets their chance at doing up their own house.
Don’t worry about XIV right now. Your children need you.
I also am very unimpressed with how FFXIV handles housing.
I agree.😢
kind of off topic, but how's that track in the background called? it's so chill❤
One of the problems about houses is that there are a lot of empty houses and that there are many FCs that have only one member, because of house. Yeah its more fair to have lottery, but i agree that if housing could be instanced it could bring a lot of new things. I play FFXIV since WOW patch 8.2.5, because i wanted try it, i fell in love with this game, but still there are some personal problems and house is one of them, i play FFXIV about 2 years now (with breaks) and still i dont own house and i love decorations, i am creative person so everything about building, glamour, indoor design is my cup of tea, but sadly i lost chance to have house by one number. RIP my could have been house.
I would take a break Yoshi-P... if it weren't for the fact that i'd lose my small Shirogane House which i have positive memories of building and getting friends to help me decorate it.
I love it when people rant because they didn't get a house lmao. Tbh, at this point, housing is to flex. I remember camping 19hr for an S plot at Shirogane beachside. I prefer the current system where I leave it to luck, much better for my health. And remember they add the condition that only 1 acc/house/dc, so yeah, if you don't get it at the first time, you have chances later. Or move to a server with less people.
Just so you know I've had a house since before it was difficult to get one.
I like your rants
I think we all hate it. Those who don't hate it anymore, used to but managed to get a house somehow.
I have a house and it still bothers me. I guess because I spend a lot of time reading peoples comments about how upset they are.
@@GingerPrimeGaming to be fair, once you have a house, now you have this ever present problem of "if I forget to log in for too long, I'll lose it" so now you have this sword of damocles hanging over you, be subscribed or else..
Yep….we are grinding and saving for a house. Excited that now we will be a part of owning houses. Annnnddddd this happens.
Housing in ffxiv is definitely a rough subject. The barriers to entry are some of what I would consider the worst problems the game has. I hope they someday find a way to open it up to everyone, but in the meantime, I’m happy they are making changes to try to improve the experience. My absolute least favorite part was having to sit at a placard spamming for hours on end, only for the plot to sell minutes after I’m forced to step away. The lottery system has removed that problem, but it will unfortunately magnify the lack of available plots available in general.
The problem is that without fixing the inventory, they cannot fix housing. It is a remnant of an archaic system that causes problems across the board.
Whether you intended it or not I loved the 10 Things I Hate about you homage.
Fully intended.
Hope your family is doing well Brian, it is always stressful when those close to us are not healthy. On the topic of housing, your quote "It requires so much from the developers to support it" nails the crux of the issue the way I see it. Players have an expectation of what housing is in Final Fantasy 14, and it is almost impossible for the devs to completely revamp the housing system (e.g. An FC that has had an estate in Lavender beds for 5 years will expect to continue holding that same estate).
Regardless of a housing system rework, there are two really big issues that need to be solved for housing to feel sustainable and good to interact with: Not enough plots available compared to the amount of players that want housing, and the housing system seems very rigid and not extendable/extensible. For the housing system in FF14 to reach the next level, I think these systemic issues need to be addressed.
This seemed more like a spoken word poem than a rant.
Can island sanctuary be instanced housing?
The only good thing about the lottery debacle is that it increases the amount of ire towards the housing system. FFXIV's paltry supply of available housing deserves all the hate it can get. >90% of people who want a house are barred from getting one for the sake of maintaining resource hogging neighborhoods with perpetually empty streets.
whats so hard about just having houses in major cities or even outside it as instances houses???? multlple groups or people can use the same instance like other mmos.. why does it need a dedicated freakin "neighborhood" thats so limited and restricted to who can get it... so stupid... that way we can just see peoples houses organically in towns and hubs.. not have to visit the dumb neighborhood.. where i never go cause i dont have a house anyway
I truly believe that personal houses are a huge waste and mistake, it was originally not even planned and I think was a mistake to start. Besides playing house decorator simulator the main benefits to housing is FC content. If personal housing was never a thing I think the issues and demand would be alot lot better.
The system used to be Free company housing, and once they opened it up to anyone, that's when I think things went south.
I think I'd rather have it be one neighborhood (or a few neighboorhoods) and houses are instanced to you the player like how other MMOs have handled it.
This last go around, I had to choose between helping the FC relocate, and attempting to get a personal house. I don't like that choice, but after learning that SE basically did us dirty with the FC/personal housing split... I chose to help the FC relocate. I know I will likely never be able to participate in any workshop stuff, I will never be able to garden, and (as of right now) I'm still waiting and hoping that I can grab a house somewhere because the competition for the personal houses is going to be insane. I expect that most personal houses are going to be gone within a cycle or two, and I will (once again) be stuck waiting and watching for more personal houses.
Even though an apartment or FC room exists... it's completely laughable to even try to equate either to a house.
I'm hoping Island Sanctuaries helps mitigate some of this, and I'll be forever wondering why we Garlond Ironworks doesn't grant us workshop access considering all we have done for them over the years.
But until this situation changes, it's more waiting and watching.... as the playerbase gets more bitter and toxic over this entire broken feature...
my solution, limit 1 property per account, first 9 wards of every area being fc only, and a hundred more wards per area
Nothing you need to apologize for but as a dad I can definitely related to the headspace your kids being sick can put you in. I think you were very fair in how you presented your thought here though which is why you don’t need the apology, and I know hate is a strong word but it wasn’t even the most negative thing in the world since you used to word to really craft a great script with a lot of impact to get your point across.
The best part is wait until 6.2 and you be going this is the way it Should of Started and the way it should of been. Long live Farmville. Yoshi-P: You will build your Farm & Run it plus you can build a House to call your own on said land. Yoshi-P Now how do we fix the issue with Housing. to me looks like you have one but will not put it in Place until 6.2
That's the hope, but that's also my fear, that people put all their eggs in that basket... but then that's the fear, that it doesn't do that, and then after 6.2 you see even more players upset because they put all their hope in Island Sanctuary. :S
I hope it's great though...
@@GingerPrimeGaming The only thing I was luck to get was an Apartment in FF14 and needing the money instead just gave it up so I only have the start place and yet no issues with it. So am I putting my Eggs in 1 basket No because I can live with a roof above my head.
I dont understand where people keep coming up with Island Sanctuaries fixing the housing issue. It has never been once stated that is the intent behind them and its been stated multiple times that they are going to be seperate systems. People spreading misinformation stuff like this constantly is just gonna make it worse in the end because people dont listen.
Oh no. I think a LOT of us can agree and relate to this. OH SO MUCH.
The actual houses are amazing and show oh so much creativity. The lengths you have to go to get one? Not so much. You know what it reminds me of? Trying to buy next gen console. You have to hope to god you get lucky enough to be able to buy one when really, just like buying consoles in the olden days, the only barrier to entry should be cost. You have enough money? There you go. You get a house!
It's just one of those problems that would have a solution that would probably please everyone somehow if someone would just think about it for two minutes.
Im just curious do people actually leave apts, I have a feeling more than 50 percent of people in Apts havnt logged in in months
Honestly, they should've just nicked the "Dimension" housing from RIFT. It was instanced without neighborhoods, but that was only because you could buy certain pieces of land that actually exist in the open world and turn them into your personal dewlling place (within item limit restrictions).
I've seen people who bought a small island, only to ignore the land and build a whole area of Asian inspired fantasy buildings out of enlarged boats and other repurposed items on the water around it. Canyons and cliffsides with elaborate jumping puzzles, outdoor pools turned into snowscapes... the creativity was only limited by the amount of items you could place inside the respective dimension size. There were even projectors you could get for certain achievements or special currency that changed the sky and lighting in the whole area.
And the best thing? You could have several dimensions on one each of your characters as long as you got the ingame money to buy them.
But, I guess, the FFXIV engine can't handle something like that... I still miss my remodeled tavern turned mage residence in my self-made pine forest. So many hours wasted on PvP just to buy that night sky projector...
Also, yes, guild dimensions were a thing, too, and they had raid trophies like dragon heads and other stuff that you could display in them.
As frustrating as the housing system is the responses that some players give are absolutely ridiculous and disgusting sometimes. Going so far to say that the devs should lose their jobs and livelihoods, and undoubtedly worse too, is mind boggling….
I mean, to be fair, if I do a bad job, I get fired. I'm a bit uncertain why a decade of bad jobs from the devs should be forgiven. Ignoring the vitriol some people have, this is the cardinal rule in every single job, so why not here? Am I to forgive every show of incompetence or lack of foresight just because? I understand you speak from a place of emotion and sympathy, but when money is involved, a level of accountability cannot be ignored and "I'm sorry" only takes us so far. Again, especially after 10 years.
9 months later honestly still dont like the lottery but its better than what we use to have....as for instance housing i would just recommend people go make an apartment or fc room o. o at this point. If no one bidded on 1800 plots I can't say when or where in future we will get that many plots ( maybe when housing appears on the moon)
Please accept my best wishes for you and your family. Glad to hear they’re doing better. 👍 It’s ok to be tired. It’s not embarrassing or an excuse. And it’s ok to unpack somethings when they need to be unpacked. Just don’t let the negative thoughts pollute your air for too long. 😅😉 Stay safe. ❤️
PS: That was a good rant. 😋
Glad you enjoyed the rant, and like I said on W2G I hope your able to find a new job. Sorry to hear that too.
@@GingerPrimeGaming - Thank you! ❤️
The housing system made me quit the game. With the release of oceanic servers I thought this is my chance.
Grinded 50milliom gold, only bidder for a random house and one other bidder joins last minute and wins.
Lost all motivation to continue playing.
*snaps* nice poem! You make a lot of good points, it's a cool but very flawed system that could use an overhaul.
Hope your kids get better soon!
Thanks, and we took them to the doc and got some meds and they're bouncing off the walls like normal now.
Just steal and improve on RuneScape's housing system, it is pretty decent. That's all Square Enix needs to do.
Hm... this one slipped my radar, it seems... Yes, as much as I love housing (I'm the proud owner of a small plot - and I need two apartments to stash my stuff, because... lacking storage is a thing...), its... a monster. Breaking it down and building it right up may be a solution but... well, only if the old system is kept alive until the other can be released - like what they did with ARR nad 1.0. Anything else would get people on the barricades... and I'm afraid I would join them. The system as it is now... is the best we can have atm... Its not good (why do we have 19 FC-only wards??? I mean, 19!!!) but its... Its just too limited. People who have a small plot, want a large one, people who dont have any plot want one, those who have a medium plot probably want a large one, and the ones with a large one want more items to put down or at least store. Then the clunkey placement of items (a floor item cant be put on a table e.g.) ... On one hand, housing is a major feature, on the other... it seems it kept alive on life-support instead of some serious medication.
None of us knows SEs list of priorities. But we get those islands... maybe they might allow for some steam release... Also, what I hate to see is empty houses, with empty gardens. The lottery system doesnt solve the overall problem but at least it prevents people selling their houses (aka moving out and letting someelse purchesing it who already has a house elsewhere - not possible anymore, thank god!). Not that that was the only problem...
I don’t think I could agree with this more. Housing needs just a Ragnorok event, destroy it all start over again!
Nah people would find a way to bring Ragnorok to SquareEnix if they did that lol
Hell YEA!!!!! I Totally Agree!! I have stayed away from housing cause I always takes breaks FF14 and regret the one time I did not knowing I was going to lose my house.
I do not like green eggs and housing ham. I do not like them SAM I AM!
I love you 💖
The housing system as it now is, is bad and should be scrapped, and I am saying this as someone who has a house ingame that I love. Housing should be the most casual content that everyone should be able to take part in, but due to some very bad design decisions it is a system that many are locked out from, and that is the part I hate about it.
As you said the areas are mostly empty, where I have my house it is at most me and a player who have access to my house.
So I say scrap it and make something everyone who wants to can partake in.
even though I'm not particularly convinced on individual instanced housing I can definitely see and empathise with your frustrations. I don't think you should apologise at all.
I feel like people need to back up a bit and let the developers test out the lottery system properly. if there's truly no interest in it the devs may think about changing it in the future. this system was implemented to fix days of placard clicking not overhaul the entire system which it seems like everyone was under the impression this would be... people would literally risk their health and well-being for a house before... this system was meant to curb that.
Plus, (and this is an opinion so don't skewer me) individual housing others can't see would just bore me as a person who actively loves going house hopping in game. but that's my personal taste and I know I'm def in the minority here lol.
tldr; for various reasons I don't align with your stances on this but never apologise for thinking this (if anything your in the majority right now or at least the camp who's the loudest)
Your own family is far more important than a fair system where everyone gets to play virtual Barbie, Bryan. It has to be said, dude. Don't let this get under your skin when there are FAR more important things to be worried about.
If that's sounds dismissive to the frustrations of other players, it's meant to be. The game is supposed to be an enjoyable escapism from the exact kind of things I was referring to that do take precedence in our lives, and easily 90% of the playerbase forgets this and/or takes their time online for granted by allowing trivial matters to overtake their entire mental state.
I highly recommend taking an extended break away from the game.
If I'm to pay my sub to keep my house, let me rent my house for gil...
My WoW friend: I wish Blizzard adds a housing system like FF14.
Me: What housing where?
Everquest 2 had amazing housing and that games is years old surely final fantasy can do something similar to that
Don’t feel bad about being frustrated, especially about a system as faulty as FFXIV housing, seeing your kids sick is a real stresser. I hope they get better soon!
Yeah the housing system is definitely flawed, heck inventory in general is flawed. The instance neighborhood should be reserved for FCs and large plots only, but starts out as small plots and can be upgraded and maintained using company credits, cause frankly it's rather worthless I'm sitting millions credits right now with an FC of 20ish active players. Private houses should be instanced and upgradeable as you amassed more wealth, have a maintenance cost for med and large homes but not the small ones.
This was really good and reminded me of Dr Seuss and was writing that as you said it lolol. This excellently portayed both the positive and negative:) and I agree with this videos sentiments!! I want to add for myself, that I hate that any issue brings out the over the top rudeness in some players Andi hope I'm not on the same server as them tbh as it's a little scary!
Really great addition to this video Chey, totally agree :)
@@GingerPrimeGaminglooking back I think I was a little mild. Some have been rude yes saying Yoshi P should be fired and some psycho... Sending death threats. It's a bit daunting but then this world is filled with all kinds isn't it. The key for me is to fight the urge to comment back so as not to feed those with responses and to try to be kind where I can. :) We do not want these crazy keyboard cowboys to be what speaks for us gamers.
Ginger prime unleashed
I hate the house system - The house lottery is dumb.
Nice Poem!
Thanks for listening
i love the ff14 game i hate the housing system with a passion is abysmal you can't kicked players and getting a house is the worst!
This kinda sounded like beat poetry to me so maybe you weren’t too far off the mark 😁
I was trying to go with that as the underlying tone
We love FFXIV, but I agree on that housing system is totally dumb and terrible.
Congratulations the winning number is "0"!!
After standing at a placard endlessly clicking, getting the house just felt bitter sweet
I have always refused to engage with the housing system because it always felt like it required me to stay subbed forever. Plus the old placard meta game was silly to begin with. Deal with that headache to be rewarded with an obligation... I wanted an in game house. Not an in game mortgage. 😝
Unpopular opinion.
Just a couple years ago at the end of 2019 there were still entire wards without a single house purchased, plots sat empty with a max devaluation for months. No one cared about housing.
Now that people have started caring about housing, everyone hates it.
You for example Ginger, you tout about playing this game for over eight years yet this is only the second time you have made a video on this topic. You had an agenda, of course, as your friend was doing the housing gauntlet for days and just like this video, it was a lot of unhelpful rambling and ranting.
I would love to hear you talk about player accountability in the midst of this crisis. Why don't you talk about the people who actively purchase houses via RMT, thus giving the botters easy money and at the same time denying subscription paying legitimate players their chance to have a house? Or the players that go to the official forums and rant and rave, just like you did here, about how everything is broken and offering no constructive feedback that could actually assist the developers in making this situation more tolerable?
Heavens forbid that a subscription paying player is culpable in creating this hellscape we all find ourselves in.
The devs did double the amount of wards and they added Ishgard housing, are adding new data centers and Island Sanctuary is on the horizon. As well they are addressing the rampant botting via the lottery, or at least making it too much of a hassle for them to continue in huge volumes, but it didn't fix the problem completely. The devs are doing their part.
There is nothing constructive about your video, you are placating the people who would rather whine and cry about a system they feel entitled to rather than help fix any issues.
If I could make one major change to this system it would be to limit houses to one house PER account. FC or Personal, take your pick, but just one per subscription. It would crush so many loopholes.
I have absolutely no sympathy for botting. This whole notion of “well we had to to be able to get the house” doesn’t fly with me. That’s like saying, “well I can’t afford all the games I want so I’m forced to pirate them”
In terms of the bots though. I understand the reasoning behind it. Nothing justifies cheating in my opinion. But then again I’m weird and old-school.
Last thing though. It’s not enough just to have a subscription. Did you actually have to go into your house within 45 days to keep it from getting demolished. Although at the moment those timers are suspended. On the one hand it does suck but on the other hand, if you’re going to have a house and take up a finite resource, it really should go to the ones that are actively playing. It totally wouldn’t be feasible for the houses to never demolish on the their own if you aren’t active for a month and a half plus because if they didn’t, nobody would get a house. Ever. Because the people that quit the game two years ago would still have one.
Oh a angry botanist is hateing! 😸
Agreed.
Glad I will never do housing.
I 100% agree!! Housing should never have been instanced, it should have been 10 houses within the city with a 24h bidding system that refreshes a 24h timer every time a new higher bid comes in and that's it! And everyone that feels entitled to having a house just has to suck it up and get a hotel room.
Sorry you hate it, thankfully, you don't have to engage with it. Not all systems in the game are for everyone. Maybe, this is one of those things, you should just, not do.
Yoshi P did 1.0 while 2.0 at the same time. I am hoping island sanctuaries are housing 2.0. If it is then I hope everyone who complained about housing spends as much time thanking the devs as they did complaining. But they won't they will find something else to hate on even before solutions are presented or tried. Everything they do for us is forgotten the moment there is a hick up, and personally I am tired of it. It is fine to complain but give them praise also, I am sorry I am venting as well. No one deserves death threats or harassing e-mails for a mistake that cost nothing, no gil was lost and the winners still won their houses. You do a great job praising the devs but not everyone does. It is people in game as well, all the /sh chats and /nn complaints before even giving the update a try and they call it constructive criticism and thus they think it is okay. The devs deserve the respect of us to at least trying their ideas out and give them time to figure things out if mistakes are made before we trash them or their work. Sorry this isn't aimed at you at all but I am sure you have seen the comments as well. The devs do not deserve our disrespect.
I hate the griping about it. Get an apartment. You can make a super swell living area with an apartment. I wish they kicked every player out of personal housing and every FC with under a light party(and I say this as someone with a small) and made houses FC only again and just instanced apartments and that could be player housing. They could probably cut the housing servers in half and everyone could get an apartment wherever to show off. If only so I could stop hearing people gripe about it.
Hi there, apartment owner and decorator here. Apartments are not equivalent to full housing. I can't garden. Sure, I can place pots and grow flowers and seeds, but I can't crossbreed anything, locking me out of certain plants unless I pay a good chunk of gil. I can't place outdoor decorations. I keep getting all these nice plants, but I can't put them anywhere; they can only go outside. I get a single room and while I've used every inch of that single room that I possibly can it's still very small.
If they made a way for me to upgrade my apartment and give it an outdoor area so I could actually garden and place outdoor furnishings, maybe I'd agree with you. But as it stands, I look at all the houses and wish that I had the ability to decorate more than one room, choose what my outside walls look like, and be able to grow some Thavnairian Onions completely from my own work and not paying thousands of gil.
@@krysaltepsyr8134 I suspect if the game moved to a form of instanced housing, apartments is what we’d get since FFXIV’s initial housing was FC only with FC rooms for individuals. Apartments were a concession to people who wanted housing for FCless people. Then personal was opened up because wards had plots empty due to not enough FCs owning them. I imagine if they went back to the individual vision it would be better. But it doesn’t matter, no solution will please everyone as every community suggestion implemented other than scrap it and start over just gets more complaints.
The housing is great, once you have one. :D
I am fine with the housing system, I enjoy the current style because it makes it feel like a neighbourhood having challenges to have your house appear would just make people spam high point items and it would be ugly. There are flaws, its not perfect. I also hate how everyone hating on them for the lottery bug when mistakes happen and they apologized several times with reasons and why it happened.
People don't always get what they want. Good life lesson.