Actually if you noticed there was a quest in FO4 about getting a deathclaw's egg when you take it back to the nest you can see a lot of broken eggs and nearby there's a lighthouse that you can turn on a siren and a group of deathclaws massacre a group of raiders but when you go to the nest nearby you meet one deathclaw that doesn't attack you off the bat because you returned the egg so they do live in groups but smaller in FO4 than compared to FONV probably because they lived in NV far longer than the Commonwealth
@@shadow__bubbyit also helps that the areas deathclaws live in NV are usually very spacious or decent sized caves. The commonwealth (that we interact with) isn’t quite so open
You forgot a tiny bit of info about deatclaws. They were tinkered with by the master. Basically he perected them. He is the reason they are so big and intelligent. So I do believe they'd thrive in any era tbh
@@Cursedmanplays4631 this simply isn't true. Deathclaws existed PRIOR to the Great War He may have dipped Deathclaws but it's never stated & ultimately had no affect on their population, if you wish to speak of "big & intelligent" you'd be better off mentioning the talking deathclaws the Enclave created in F2
Silly thought: You start making a subplot of these videos that is the timeline police being angry at you creating more and more branches of timeline by making creatures time travel.
@@basicbodybuilding Yeah this pretty much, Monstervverse Skull Island is on another level. Other versions are still dangerous, Deathclaw wouldn't be top of the food chain, but they could survive.
the Deathclaws claws CAN pierce and cut steel. they are known in lore as being able to rip apart power armored knights, though you could argue that they are using their intelligence to stick their claws in weak spots and then brute strength to separate joints and seems. ingame this is reflected by the gauntlet you make from their claws being able to ignore armor values.
I would say this is still a far cry from being able to penetrate most large cretaceous animals with thick shells, but this is absolutely terrible news for every other animal they might encounter.
Fallout power armor basically paper tissue thin tho, t-51b its stated canonically cannot protect against the force of 7.62x51 rounds meaning they are bellow level 3 nij body armor, so below 7mm of steel. they still chuck cars around like nothing so they probably just have the level strenght to brute force their way in rather than being type of hypersharp mythically sharp claws ordeal.
Deathclaws being pack hunters, if the family size in Quarry Junction is the standard rather than the standalones in Fallout 4, would probably hunt themselves to extinction
@@LoneWolf343Yeah I ain't so sure these things need to eat all that much. And they're shown on multiple occasions to not attack EVERYTHING on sight. If it don't consider you a threat and it ain't hungry it'd likely leave you alone. In fallout you're likely almost always seen as a threat since every human would shoot one on sight and they've learned from that. Yet, at the same time, the moments of friendliness are from them distinguishing you from other humans. Idk. They'd be fine.
There have been deathclaw that are smart enough to talk and while the enclave did wipe a majority of them out (depending on what you did) they're are stories of intelligent deathclaw working with Brotherhood of steel in the western chapters in fallout lore
Right up until the brotherhood started getting all squimish about the "purity" of humanity, anyways. Ultimately, if they keep that up, their fate will be the same as the enclave. A mere shadow of their former glory, doomed by their own hubris and fanaticism.
Deathclaws surviving multiple 50 cal shots kinda tells you how durable they are. They’re basically walking IFVs with claws. Maybe their skin is better at absorbing impact or they’re just angry enough to ignore it but they’d definitely prove resourceful in any environment Edit: Fallout 4 enemies are bullet sponges and no, I do not accept fallout 4 as an accurate representation of a creature’s durability. I am speaking from the weapon and bullet mechanics of new Vegas. So stop mentioning all the other things that can tank a 50 cal in Bethesda’s last two games
@@capadociaash8003 Yeah that’s fair enough. But those human characters are usually depicted with some king of legendary status. Can’t always let physics and realism get in the way of a good rpg
Going off New Vegas's 15 Damage Threshold, they're about equal in toughness to combat armour. So raw mass and piss and vinegar is what let's them deal with .50cal.
7:45 "Something that might be another downfall for them, their hyper-agression." It works for geese, and they're small, in comparison, to a deathclaw, and only have a beak. But, everything avoids them, like the plague.
I almost think deathclaws would just pull a "Living Fossil" and stay jack of all trades generalist predators. No point changing if you don't need to, and unlike the dinosaurs, DCs were intelligently designed to survive in a range of environments (specifically mainland China, but clearly capable of thriving across the post-war US in an ecosystem almost entirely consisting of medium to large predators (don't get me started on the logistics of Fallouts ecosystems)). I'm sure they would adapt to other environments, like how they adapted to form regional variants such as commonwealth vs Capital Wasteland deathclaws, but i think they would retain the general body plan.
@@namelessking4146 everything's a predator except radstags and brahmin (and maybe bloatflies?). There are not enough prey items to sustain the size or number of predators anywhere in the wasteland. All that energy has to come from somewhere, and there just aren't enough plant eaters to sustain the meat eaters.
The horn turtle is a bit silly. The skewer stratrgy could work, but evolving that crazy back spike instead of using the horns seems unlikely. Yes, the neck would be subjected to a lot of force, but a species evolving a more robust neck is pretty easy. The sapient deathclaws are pretty likely, since they're already pretty close and sapient ones exist in lore.
@@MadlyMesozoic I like the idea, even with how silly it is. Though it seems a bit TOO specialized to actually evolve into that. It would need to grow such a large back spike before it could even successfully hunt that way, that it would have to get so used to surviving on smaller fish and things, it would probably totally ignore the large herbivores at the water's edge, and never grow a back spike specialized for hunting large prey. Unless this hunting method adapted as originally a form of defense and it just so happened to accidentally kill things so often that way, that it just got used to eating the resulting corpses. Which is a little silly.
Tbf also gotta remember deathclaws can throw around cars weighing several tonnes and one arm lift a heavily armoured power armour individual with one hand and throw them a decent distance. Their ability to launch, displace or knock over a dinosaur cant be ignored
@@isopropyltoxicityThis is not generally considered to be the case by modern paleontology, most commonly known dinosaurs actually had extremely large brains for their body size which implies a huge capacity for intelligence.
@@AncientWildTV same how it does for any creature. Changes what would be deemed as a worthwhile risk before a physical confrontation and how easily intimidated other species likely would be. Other predators would likely avoid them quick enough due to their comparable strength to the larger carnivors and there tendency to use ranged attacks whilst no prey animal or herbivour would really escape their focus because as a creature it would know it is strong enough to kill them and smart enough to pull it off
About the spike turtles, I thought they would survive the extinction event by going into the ocean. Getting smaller, eating sharks, plesiosaurs, oh wait. Sorry, eating each-other because the plesiosaurs are dead, going nuts and killing all the turtles, now they are small and have shells- we have new turtles. Edit: Thanks for 300 likes! The new breed of turtle-crocodile shall take over!
IIRC, they're warm blooded, so they'd also have a much wider range of habitats than turtles. I could potentially see them not just replacing turtles with the oceanic idea, but also taking the niche that cetaceans have, before cetaceans even evolve. They'd essentially be something akin to an Armoured, warm blooded crocodile, with potential a few subspecies of Armoured filter feeders.
Hmm, you know these videos are usually focused on thr big powerful types but here's an idea, could White-tailed deer survive the mesozoic? Seriously they're one of the most successful herbivores in modern North America and would actually have serious doubts about weather they could get around the massive beasts of that era
It would have to be the late cretaceous cause if the plants life earlier is like the types that remain today modern mamals can't eat them due to the silica they contain.
@@jameswilliams2075To be fair, I'm pretty sure those deer eat nettles, and the bristles on nettles are silica hairs, so it's potentially not as much of an issue as you'd think.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 yes but deer are selective of what they eat and there are other plants that don't have them deer can't subsist on a diet of the Mesozoic plants with much more silica in the edible parts of the plants would be fatal over time
deathclaws will set traps, and are smart enough, you can befriend it and use it as a guard dog. Some deathclaws can even talk, read, and use tools. Also Deathclaws can almost instantly heal, because the FEV.
I recall one weakness that Death Claws have very poor eyesight, just like Rhinos in the wild. They need to be aggressive since they can't see to far away.
Just two things bro: 1-I think your videos are a gold mine of evolutionary speculation, your work with other channels inspires me to try to do my own project, I hope you are very successful not only in this work in question, but also in yours life as a whole, never stop bro. 2-I have some ideas for your scenarios: A)Terror Birds in the Permian (Yes, the ghost already told you that, but I wanted to ask you again) B)Utahraptors in Skyrim C) Maybe it's not the focus, but it would be interesting if you addressed, even at a glance, how insects and fish evolved in Orbis Pogona
While the Deathclaws are hyper-aggressive in-game, I’m thinking that this is just a game mechanic. Deathclaws are just another enemy trying to kill you, rather than an actual organism trying to survive in its enviornment. The deathclaws are very intelligent and very successful, so they would obviously know how to weigh risk vs reward once they understand which animals to hunt and which ones to avoid. Finally, the chance of a sauropod attacking deathclaws and vice versa are only over territory due to the risk of long term debilitating injuries. It’s simply not worth it to pick a fight if that fight means you’ll starve to death due to a broken leg
That actualy makes sense they even work it groups my head canon the scientist that made deathclaws use hit and run and ambush tactics since they are created to fight against people with guns
Don't forget that Deathclaws have 1: Rotating wrists, and dexterous hands, which bear an alarming resemblance to human hands in structure, that they can grab and hold with. Against both Theri and Tarbosaur, they'd probably be better off, especially with their ability to plan and analyze at the same level as a human child, meaning they could easily figure out how to ram a tarb in the side, hamstring it, break its' legs, etc. Same with Theri, though the advantage there is that Deathclaws can easily grab the claws mid-swing and just twist the wrists, which would shatter the Theri's bones, due to them not being meant to move that way. 2: These are 'Intelligent' creatures, on par with human children. Children can be scary smart/intelligent, and incredibly cruel, which is also displayed in Deathclaws. 3:The longer a Deathclaw lives, the larger it gets, with some being 13'+. Some of them live longer than the average human today, so imagine a pack being successful enough that their strongest members are the same size as Tarbosaur or Theri. 4: Most carnivorous dinosaurs, and Theri and Hadrosaurs, are 25-50 feet LONG, not tall. Deathclaws, while hunched, stand TALL, so it wouldn't be a 13'+ Deathclaw versus a 30' Tarb, it would be a 13'+ Deathclaw versus a 10' tall Tarb. Even the average Deathclaw is almost the same height, as mentioned in the video. At least in 4, they also seemed to exhibit a form of mild regeneration. Sometimes I break their limbs and just watch them shamble along from a distance, and then they start moving normally after a few minutes. If that is actually supposed to be one of their features, they are more likely to survive any hard encounters, so long as their head, heart, and other major organs aren't destroyed or too badly damaged. That and the fact they can knock a full suit of power armor back, means they can probably stagger at least anything that threatens them. Still probably not a great idea for them to fight anything armored or that has wide area attacks, like a Stegosaur.
Climbing a neck to cut the throat of a sauropod is way too silly of a killing method. Not to mention.the risk/reward scale is far too steep. For a predator. A fall could cripple or kill them depending on distance fallen.
The thing about deathclaws is that they are jacked. They have absurd muscle mass and are way stronger than an average animal of their size. So most of their body is a thick hide, muscle mass and hardened bones. It's actually very hard to land a lethal shot on them.
Fun fact, the original deathclaw model *was* a tarrasque! Compare the og deathclaw to the creature in the second Dark Sun video game and it's very noticeable. WilliamSRD has a video on the game. I'm not sure if there's more content on it or not.
My suspicion is that Death Claws are surviving partly on radiation, which is why we see a lot in The Glowing Sea. Same with the large mutated insects. The lore on radiation is very inconsistent. Do ghouls need to eat, drink, or even breathe? Depends!!! It's very much dependent on which writer was handling it. But there's nothing to eat in the Glowing Sea, there's no vegetation, it should be empty, yet mutant wildlife of enormous size thrives there. Why? It has to be able to use the radiation as a power source. Which implies that when the radiation dies away, so will the mutants.
More likely is the mutants have to leave the Glowing Sea and seek sustenance elsewhere. After all, they're pretty on sight when YOU go into the Sea, so perhaps radiation isn't a complete diet.
I think you underestimate a hadrosaur's ability to throw its weight around. Deathclaws may have the adrenaline to power through grievous wounds but there is no gritting your teeth and pushing through being pounded into a fine paste. Also of course Death Claws would evolve, even with them being able to hold their own in the Gobi an animal can always better adapt to their environment.
evolution isnt a constant, if a creature has no reason to evolve then it wont. not that its common, but we see that happen with things like crocodiles or horseshoe crabs that have stayed almost exactly the same for millions and millions of years
@@theoneandonlybinsk3793 See that is a misconception, because crocodiles and horseshoe crabs did change subtly over millions of years. While filling the same niches they did become more efficient at said niche, for example the ancestors of modern crocodiles were likely warm-blooded but changed from endothermy to ectothermy as it best suited their lifestyle. Deathclaws may seem to be "overpowered" for their environment already but they could downsize to be in better balance with their environment, suicidal aggression could cause selective pressure to become more passive, shed their seemingly useless horns, become better adapted for running or upsize to directly compete with Tarbosaurus.
I think you're underestimating the negatives of being hyper aggressive. Most preditors will flee if you stand your ground because even a minor wond can leed to death. The death claw would likely evolve to be less aggressive or have less adrenalin as the most aggressive ones put themselves in danger and get killed of more than the ones who are less aggressive
Deathclaws can regenerate fast. They literally rush Yao Guais, which are mutated hyper aggressive bears, and even gulpers which are poisonous. I dont think they'll lose their hyper aggressiveness. More than likely hunt the dangerous preys in groups using strategies. Some flank others stay in front to surround, the ones in the front use dirty methods like throw dirt or launch boulders, and the ones in the back leap in for the slashing. Then all of then go for the kill.
Thats probably just for gameplay reasons though. I imagine in the lore they walked from somewhere in arizona. Ofc if it was an island youd have a point but it's not
@@mappingshaman5280 As a matter of fact, they can also be found on the island of Far Harbor in Fallout 4. Which effectively means there's only two ways they got there: Either someone transported them by boat, or they can actually swim REALLY LONG distances. (Or it could just be a case of Bethesda throwing them in there just because.)
@@mappingshaman5280 Also, they'd have to have climbed down a sheer cliff face if they didn't swim. So either they can swim, or they could climb better than apes and bears.
@isabelpage5950 well like I said I think that's gameplay vs reality because if that area wasn't cliff, the map would be bigger (which ofc obsidian intended but they didn't have the time to implement)
As far as Deathclaw Vs Large theropod goes… Deathclaws know the importance of their own eggs… They could very likely figure out the importance of their largest opponents’ eggs…
I think they're slow speed is made up for by being very durable. Then again. Hunting might be difficult. But Therinosaurus wouldn't be too much of a problem. I think the Deathclaw is pretty resistant to sharp cutting implements.
I’d hate to be that Chinese soldier. Your country is dying, so you enlist or get drafted and get shipped off to a frozen death trap. You’ve heard horror stories about what the Americans have been building to counteract your invasion, from giant suits of armor to a nuclear robot. Then, in the dead of night, your entire camp is ripped apart by a dinosaur on crack.
@@bigjimmy3792it would make for a perfect fall out horror animation were the audience follows a lone Chinese soldier trapped in a large bunker with a group of death infact you can probably make it into a small horror game similar to what they did with alien with the main goal being escape and get help.
okay so im not trying to sound snobby or anything. great video and i love it. buuuuuuuuut i just want to clear up some misconceptions people dont know 1. lore wise deathclaws are extremely fast, much stronger than they look, unbelievably nimble, and quiet as hell, being able to sneak into buildings. not only able to comfortably move around in building, but literally SNEAK into it even with several people inside, and continue to sneak around whilst inside. they also can perceive things extremely fast, even using senses like smelling and hearing, and are actually 100% bullet proof to smaller calibur bullets. putting this together, like almost all raptor species arent even a threat and even several bigger and dangerous dinosaurs wouldnt be too big an issue, as the super predator that can dodge a limited number of bullets could easily just jump over most things and begin digging into their preys backs. death claws can break advance steels with sheer strength. their claws will easily cut through it as well. they could probably even bite through metal. NO armored dinosaur is too sturdy for them. they could kill a deathclaw yes, but they are NOT going to be too tight to crack. 2. as you theorized deathclaws can go a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time without eating proper amounts of food as they are also meant to to basically have a perfect metabolism that doesnt waste a single calorie, an immune system that nukes almost all illnesses, can go ages without sleep AND can probably hibernate like most reptiles(i know reptiles dont hibernate, but deathclaws are warm blooded so if im correct that means itd technically be hibernation for them) when need be for whatever reason as well. 3. deathclaws would absolutely NOT over hunt. there are several occasions to prove this isnt the case, but deathclaws not including hunt more than they need, but a pretty large nest, that was also growing in population, was literally eating solely a small towns population and hunting them solely at night. they were so unseen and took so little numbers at a time that everyone believed they were a myth. if they wouldnt over hunt in a small down, i highly doubt they would with much more, much bigger, much healthier prey. especially since they are territory hunters. 4. as for the whole deathclaw aggression thing, thats only really a gameplay thing. deathclaws prefer mansized food or big food thats REALLY slow but most importantly, food thats in THEIR territory. lone deathclaws are only really a result of being hunted down by the brotherhood in 3, and stupid writing in 4 and 76 seeing as they should never even be in those locations(or 3 but whatever). but deathclaws absolutely know when and when not to fight. in fallout 4, we see one leave territory only to find its eggs, and it frenzied when all but one was destroyed, as reptiles sometimes do. unlike any reptile, the father deathclaw new to be passive when its egg was returned, and from then on continued being passive to what it perceived as a "friend" for lack of a better term. like i said, it knew not to fight and even keep it around after it could realistically have killed him without danger to his last hatchling. and 5, in reality there are very few things lore wise that can even really hurt deathclaws in the wastes. lore and species wise. not counting robots or factions or unique shit. mirelurks? it could even gut a queen and its acid wouldnt do anything, nor would its limbs do much. the bears(i dunno how to spell chinese words sorry)? its slap its head clean off. like maybe a behemoth because is just that meaty but id say a deathclaw isnt incapable of winning on occasion and then the tunnelers from fallout new vegas as they are too fast and can cut through tons of steel and concrete with ease. but a deathclaw is still a superior creature. while in game the rule of cool is a priority, lore wise deathclaws are very thought out as being perfectly tuned apex predators. 6. this isnt much of a point but just my statement, i LOVE therizinosaurus. second favorite dino beaten only by the spino. as a lover of paleontology and fallout lore, i can confidently say i dont think therizinosaurus would have even nearly as easy a time against one deathclaw as you think... they could definitely dodge the claws and would more than easily be capable of guttting them or lunging for the head, which they know to go for heads or stomachs, judging by the few spirited animations that play. similar to jaguars which oddly go for the head which no other big cat does on average. and they DO have the ability to jump and lunge. doing so in all 3d games. in 3 and nv its clearly effortless for them and they can cover great distances considering. as far as 4 and 76, its not tiring but they do look frantic as they role afterwards. this is due to Bethesda and its stupid habit of dramatic and unrealistic nor consistent animations with the creature its for and um... as far as swimming... i have no doubt at all a deathclaw could swim... theres the pack in a canyon near one of the biggest rivers in new vegas with a mostly semi aquatic population, being mirelurks as enemies. in short they are more than capable of taking down almost anything 1-1, as a pack probably could take anything out, and have shown great ability to self limit for an animal. they also probably wouldnt procreate or spread out TOO much but its up in the air on that one. when deathclaws do spread out though, they SPREAD out. its easy to forget new vegas even in game doesnt match to scale with actual Nevada, and in reality the distance between several packs is weeks long, even though plenty of suitable and sustainable were available along the way. and again their population was fairly low even though all packs were very well established long before we start the game. as everyone knows not to go in those areas.
Clawman cenozoic would be wild, but I think surviving the KT event will shrink them a bit to make them even more food efficient. That entire period would be rough, not even mentioning any in the Americas close to ground zero was the correct choice. Even if they reached it they'd be wiped out.
To be fair that's just games being like that. Even your human character can substain multiple shots to the head. At one point we have to draw a line and decide what is game mechanic and what is the creature's actual characteristic. I would say the hyper-agression is also just a game mechanic (although it can be realistic), considering even people will run up to a creature more dangerous than them and start attacking it. It's just how ai of enemy factions work.
I'd like to see the reverse. If any dinosaur could survive or evolve to fit into the Fallout Universes wasteland. Trex? Not enough megafauna it'd probably starve to death. Sauropods like brachiosaurus? Not enough greenery in the post apocalyptic wasteland to sustain them. Smaller dinosaurs like say raptors or abeliasaurs? That's a maybe. Though they'd definitely compete with Deathclaws and humans for resources.
Absolutely love the video especially the wild turtle evolution. In Nuka World Gatorclaws we’re introduced and I could see something like that evolve in the waters too
10:22 not to mention these things throw cars housing nuclear reactors which require several tons of shielding, that dino is getting tossed over and turned into a bowl for that deathclaw, same goes for similar dinos. That tail on some of them isn't going to be that big of a issue blunt force is pretty minor compared to the hydrostatic shock from a 50BMG hitting it several times. It's just game over when they team up.
One route that I think might also be a possibility is the scavenger route. While the deathclaws themselves are murderous killing machines, their relatively low caloric requirements, their high intelligence, and their tolerence to abnormal food sources indicates that they might be very opportunistic about stealing other predators' kills. Alternatively, I could see the deathclaws using their own kills as bait for scavengers or opportunistic predators to then ambush them for another meal.
I see them as either completely self-destructing in a disturbingly short period of time and taking most of the biosphere with them or ending up as surprisingly chill people, and I do mean _people_ since deathclaws are at least occasionally fully sapient right from the first game in the series and about the only way they take a step back and calm the heck down is if they get in the habit of thinking about things.
I will say, one thing you missed. While the deathclaw has very thick hide and scales all over its body, its head is notably hard. In the games, shooting a deathclaw in the head doesnt actually do more damage to it. This could be some adaptation or purposeful mutation during original creation, but ive always liked to think that their skulls are VERY thick as brain size in lizards varies wildly and brain size actually only very weakly correlates to actual intelligence (at least according to my 5mins of internet research so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). The belly however is considered their "weak spot" when it comes to doing damage to them in game. This could lead to some problems for them in the long run considering their bipedal nature. Great video tho. long time fallout fan with an interest in biology, this was the perfect video to introduce me to your channel.
I do think the Sauropods and Hadrosaurs would do better than you say they did. Important to note that their size can be used as a lethal weapon. Getting rammed or stomped by a massive dinosaur is going to cause significant internal damage. I know we like to imagine them being stupid meatsacks who can't defend themselves, but I just don't think that's the case. We just gotta remember that Herbivores are usually a lot more dangerous than Carnivores or, at the very least, on a similar scale to them. Wouldn't change much though.
Not at all. Deathclaws inn lore, can survive standing beside nukes. This is seen inn lonesome road DLC for fallout new vegas as an example. Just imagine the blunt damage an explosion upp close with that radius would do.
in fallout one and two they just ripped the powerarmour in half so your feet where still standing and your torso on the ground. i would say that if it can rip through 2 inches of steel it can deffinately rip open bone armour!
Deathclaws weren't made with FEV, I'm pretty sure. They're the result of genetic engineering and hybridization. The Master DID modify Deathclaws with FEV at some point as did The Enclave - the latter's efforts resulting in the appearance of fully sapient Deathclaws.. but baseline Deathclaws have nothing to do with FEV.
I’m going to say this because it’s really hurting me, but I am 100% convinced that a death claw could NOT take on a fully grown sauropod for one crucial reason, they’re not just going to let the death claw climb upon them at some point they are going to shake it off and when it gets shake off, it’s GOING to DIE. I’m just saying. A fully grown healthy Hadrosaurs would also put up a very good fight as yet again they’re not going to let them just tear them apart. They’re going to fight back and they have the weapons to fight for example they can deliver devastating kicks with their front and back legs, and they would also have the protection of the herd to defend each-other you are underestimating these herbivore man
I agree. A deathclaw could probably shrug off or at least survive a kick from a hadrosaur. Also if deathclaws are smart enough to take down a mature sauropod they are smart enough to avoid them, or at least target compromised individuals.
Bullets are not similar to hadrosaur stomp. Bullets can pass through a target or be stopped by armor, while the damage of being sandwiched between the ground and a foot of a 10 ton hadrosaur cannot be reduced.
regarding speed quote "running for the exit hexes at the first sign of a Deathclaw is your best chance of survival. If you're well equipped and want to stick it out, though, get in at least one shot at long range, because Deathclaws move so fast that you're unlikely to get another long-range attack as they charge you. They'll always close rapidly so they can use their powerful claws to tear and rend you."
great work madly! interesting time period to choose and great video idea and editing as usual. keep it up, im sure we'd all love to see more like this. perhaps xenomorphs in africa 98 million yrs ago? or mothra in brazil 85 million yrs ago?
You should make a spec evo on Godzilla specifically the monsterverse since they go with a more “naturalistic” style of depicting the monsters at least with the first couple of movies
Ya know it really comes down to the Deathclaws pack mentality and that perental instinct to protect their young…gonna have to say yes, the Deathclaws would comfortably thrive… Up until the birth of Chuck Norris…
If you're still working on the gorgonopsid follow up video, there is one potential Evo for that which you've overlooked. We have fossil evidence that the family, even if not the gorgonopsid you chose, did develop venom a few times. Could be an interesting option for certain areas that would essentially be a more mammalian, if not exactly true mammal, version of the Komodo Dragon, or potentially something like a venomous panther for south America.
I was thinking while watching this, would a thery have and chance. Sure their claws are sharp and hit hard but shooting a death claw in the back with anything does next to no damage meaning their armour would probably survive the slash. Also with the armoured animals the death claw could almost certainly do enough damage to them. If you consider they were basically there to be deployed into areas where there would be a lot of power armour. Their strength is insanely high as estimates for lore accurate power armour puts some off it at about 2 tonne where they can easily ragdoll it and make it look easy. Also you didn't mention their roar, as we know dinosaurs probably didn't roar but deathclaws do which could through off competition. I think their only problem would be large theropods because as you said they are hyper aggressive and will attack anything in sight.
Would love to see a different video centered around the faster and more adaptive west coast deathclaws as opposed to the commonwealth deathclaws referenced here but… they might do too well. 😂🤘 It seems you blended the two together as one? I suppose it would evolve rapidly depending on where it is!, makes me wonder what a jungle deathclaw would look and be like 😮
the spongebob footsteps as it climbed the soropod got me, that shits funny. also oddly enough the lore of fallout lends validation to ur 3rd evolutionary idea. there are or was a group of deathclaws in fallout lore that had human intillect and opted to communicate rather than kill. unfortunately due to the fear created by their lesser learned breatheren humans learned of the deathclaws and just saw big scary monsters and opted to wipe them out indescriminently so this clawmen thing is not only plausible but has already occurred
I'm pretty sure the intelligent death laws were a result of further experiments from the enclave because they needed them to be slightly smarter in order to tame them or something but got the sapient -furry- scaly bait instead idk
The amount of you fuckwits trying to draw parallels between the fictional lizard people and real life is hurting my head. Not to mention the fact this takes place in the Late Cretaceous. Go outside.
I would imagine a death claw would do quite well in the Cretaceous. Even though it would be outclassed in size and strength(in most cases,) it would still have intelligence and speed on its side to an extent since this thing is literally meant to be a living weapon of war, not a naturally occurring creature that means this thing lives to kill hence their aggressive nature and territorial behavior. They’re seeing as have to been shown to be quite smart as in fall four and 76 I think, they’re shown to be able to throw cars and I think if I remember correctly pull up pocket sand move in an attempt to blind people/enemies I would imagine if this creature would go against Taurus. The trapezoids would actually find it difficult to find against a death claw plus that, and supposedly their pack hunting nature, and they would probably dominate Asia, even though these things are meant to fight humans specifically they are to be able to immediately insert themselves as Apex priors environments where everything is heavily mutated and much more dangerous than naturally occurring creatures with no radiation. They would probably be able to elite most creatures and even take down large sewer pods probably by learn them into traps. I mean, we see these things have fight against giant mutated giant human/super mutant Scenes that are able to literally hit the ground with such force that it sends out shockwaves which a death claw roar is also capable of so I would imagine death calls would actually be able to dominate any environment. They were put in except for an aquatic one in which they would just be sitting ducks, waiting to get eaten by a mosasaur possibly drown due to them being reasonably heavy. That’s just my two cents. Let me know what you think. Also, I love your world of bearded dragons video. Keep it up and I can’t wait to see more.❤ crap I just realized that I said Word for Word what you said about their strengths and weaknesses that is actually quite cool because it shows I’m not only know about that cause but you do as well so yeah us saying the same things not the same behaviors deathclaws are able to enact also shows that we both think quite similar when we think strengths and weaknesses I ain’t saying I’m just like you, but I am definitely saying that I came up with these thoughts and then watch the video and then heard them echo.
And then the deathclaw looked at me and said, "I need about tree fiddy." Well, it was about that time that I realized that the 'deathclaw' was really a 30 foot tall creature from the Mesozoic era. That damn Loch Ness Monsta done got me again!
Deathclaws, can take small arms fire (generally requiring either high caliber weapons like .50 cals or very good shots with other high power rifle cartridges) and can rip through tanks and power armor. Best question is what can survive them?
Alternative title : can the cretaceous survive the deathclaw
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Was that a rhetorical question?
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Short answer: yes.
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Yeah, probably.*
Before fallout 4 deathclaws were pack animals, having hides and nests with 5-20 members including young
Actually if you noticed there was a quest in FO4 about getting a deathclaw's egg when you take it back to the nest you can see a lot of broken eggs and nearby there's a lighthouse that you can turn on a siren and a group of deathclaws massacre a group of raiders but when you go to the nest nearby you meet one deathclaw that doesn't attack you off the bat because you returned the egg so they do live in groups but smaller in FO4 than compared to FONV probably because they lived in NV far longer than the Commonwealth
@@shadow__bubbyit also helps that the areas deathclaws live in NV are usually very spacious or decent sized caves. The commonwealth (that we interact with) isn’t quite so open
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me that you didn't watch the video.
You forgot a tiny bit of info about deatclaws. They were tinkered with by the master. Basically he perected them. He is the reason they are so big and intelligent. So I do believe they'd thrive in any era tbh
@@Cursedmanplays4631 this simply isn't true. Deathclaws existed PRIOR to the Great War
He may have dipped Deathclaws but it's never stated & ultimately had no affect on their population, if you wish to speak of "big & intelligent" you'd be better off mentioning the talking deathclaws the Enclave created in F2
Silly thought: You start making a subplot of these videos that is the timeline police being angry at you creating more and more branches of timeline by making creatures time travel.
we do a little interdimensional environmental terrorism
The Time Variance Authority is very mad.
@@MadlyMesozoic as a treat
@@MadlyMesozoic i just stumbled across your videos today, and even I think that would be a great idea
As a channel OG. That would indeed go hard.
Deathclaws vs. Skull Island.
Up
Monsterverse skull island they have no chance.
King kong 2005 skull island they have a chance
Daaaamn, we hate the creatures of skull Island huh? Well that's gonna be one hell of a time.
@@basicbodybuilding Yeah this pretty much, Monstervverse Skull Island is on another level. Other versions are still dangerous, Deathclaw wouldn't be top of the food chain, but they could survive.
@Erratas0702bruh the footage of the movie speaks for itself, the creatures from the monsterverse are almsot supernatural in strenght.
the Deathclaws claws CAN pierce and cut steel. they are known in lore as being able to rip apart power armored knights, though you could argue that they are using their intelligence to stick their claws in weak spots and then brute strength to separate joints and seems.
ingame this is reflected by the gauntlet you make from their claws being able to ignore armor values.
I would say this is still a far cry from being able to penetrate most large cretaceous animals with thick shells, but this is absolutely terrible news for every other animal they might encounter.
Fallout power armor basically paper tissue thin tho, t-51b its stated canonically cannot protect against the force of 7.62x51 rounds meaning they are bellow level 3 nij body armor, so below 7mm of steel. they still chuck cars around like nothing so they probably just have the level strenght to brute force their way in rather than being type of hypersharp mythically sharp claws ordeal.
@@rocket_sensha4337 Power armor was actually just invented for carrying heavy weapons so it makes sense
Deathclaws being pack hunters, if the family size in Quarry Junction is the standard rather than the standalones in Fallout 4, would probably hunt themselves to extinction
A weapon is not a animal, so yeah.
Considering they survived 200 years in much scarcer environments, I don't agree with this assessment.
@@LoneWolf343Yeah I ain't so sure these things need to eat all that much. And they're shown on multiple occasions to not attack EVERYTHING on sight. If it don't consider you a threat and it ain't hungry it'd likely leave you alone. In fallout you're likely almost always seen as a threat since every human would shoot one on sight and they've learned from that. Yet, at the same time, the moments of friendliness are from them distinguishing you from other humans.
Idk. They'd be fine.
@@maverick5335Some are intelligent as well and can think and talk.
Yeah that's not what would happen. These are very intelligent beings that don't just kill everything in sight
There have been deathclaw that are smart enough to talk and while the enclave did wipe a majority of them out (depending on what you did) they're are stories of intelligent deathclaw working with Brotherhood of steel in the western chapters in fallout lore
They are probably one of the few who would work with the BoS tbf
Right up until the brotherhood started getting all squimish about the "purity" of humanity, anyways. Ultimately, if they keep that up, their fate will be the same as the enclave. A mere shadow of their former glory, doomed by their own hubris and fanaticism.
erm that’s not canon 🤓
@@canisarcanino, the wastelanders will be infertile in a few generations. Purity is the only way for humanity to survive
@@earhearthush-up5549
That’s not even nerd, just stupid. They were in FO2.
Deathclaws surviving multiple 50 cal shots kinda tells you how durable they are. They’re basically walking IFVs with claws. Maybe their skin is better at absorbing impact or they’re just angry enough to ignore it but they’d definitely prove resourceful in any environment
Edit: Fallout 4 enemies are bullet sponges and no, I do not accept fallout 4 as an accurate representation of a creature’s durability. I am speaking from the weapon and bullet mechanics of new Vegas. So stop mentioning all the other things that can tank a 50 cal in Bethesda’s last two games
Take it with a grain of salt, humans in fallout can also survive multiple 50 cal shots
@@capadociaash8003 Yeah that’s fair enough. But those human characters are usually depicted with some king of legendary status. Can’t always let physics and realism get in the way of a good rpg
Probably a mix of both thick skin/armor and adrenaline
Going off New Vegas's 15 Damage Threshold, they're about equal in toughness to combat armour. So raw mass and piss and vinegar is what let's them deal with .50cal.
And you don’t think a large dinosaur could? Most had very thick skin, with layers of fat, muscle and bone
7:45 "Something that might be another downfall for them, their hyper-agression." It works for geese, and they're small, in comparison, to a deathclaw, and only have a beak. But, everything avoids them, like the plague.
I almost think deathclaws would just pull a "Living Fossil" and stay jack of all trades generalist predators. No point changing if you don't need to, and unlike the dinosaurs, DCs were intelligently designed to survive in a range of environments (specifically mainland China, but clearly capable of thriving across the post-war US in an ecosystem almost entirely consisting of medium to large predators (don't get me started on the logistics of Fallouts ecosystems)). I'm sure they would adapt to other environments, like how they adapted to form regional variants such as commonwealth vs Capital Wasteland deathclaws, but i think they would retain the general body plan.
yeah,that’s fair..
same
What problems do you have with the fallout world’s logistics lol I’m curious.
@@namelessking4146 everything's a predator except radstags and brahmin (and maybe bloatflies?). There are not enough prey items to sustain the size or number of predators anywhere in the wasteland. All that energy has to come from somewhere, and there just aren't enough plant eaters to sustain the meat eaters.
@@couldntthinkofacoolname9608 what about bighorners
The horn turtle is a bit silly. The skewer stratrgy could work, but evolving that crazy back spike instead of using the horns seems unlikely. Yes, the neck would be subjected to a lot of force, but a species evolving a more robust neck is pretty easy.
The sapient deathclaws are pretty likely, since they're already pretty close and sapient ones exist in lore.
The horn turtle is intentionally silly
@@MadlyMesozoic I like the idea, even with how silly it is. Though it seems a bit TOO specialized to actually evolve into that. It would need to grow such a large back spike before it could even successfully hunt that way, that it would have to get so used to surviving on smaller fish and things, it would probably totally ignore the large herbivores at the water's edge, and never grow a back spike specialized for hunting large prey. Unless this hunting method adapted as originally a form of defense and it just so happened to accidentally kill things so often that way, that it just got used to eating the resulting corpses. Which is a little silly.
dont care, horny turtle.
The spiked turtle is the funniest shit ever
He just created a new Mario enemy lol
Dude spends 6 months building up the energy for one jump. Better not miss.
Tbf also gotta remember deathclaws can throw around cars weighing several tonnes and one arm lift a heavily armoured power armour individual with one hand and throw them a decent distance. Their ability to launch, displace or knock over a dinosaur cant be ignored
AND THEY ARE INTELLIGENT dinosaurs are dumb af
Also Deathclaws can climb up rocky walls
@@isopropyltoxicityThis is not generally considered to be the case by modern paleontology, most commonly known dinosaurs actually had extremely large brains for their body size which implies a huge capacity for intelligence.
How do deathclaws’ physical abilities influence their interactions with other species?
@@AncientWildTV same how it does for any creature. Changes what would be deemed as a worthwhile risk before a physical confrontation and how easily intimidated other species likely would be. Other predators would likely avoid them quick enough due to their comparable strength to the larger carnivors and there tendency to use ranged attacks whilst no prey animal or herbivour would really escape their focus because as a creature it would know it is strong enough to kill them and smart enough to pull it off
About the spike turtles, I thought they would survive the extinction event by going into the ocean. Getting smaller, eating sharks, plesiosaurs, oh wait. Sorry, eating each-other because the plesiosaurs are dead, going nuts and killing all the turtles, now they are small and have shells- we have new turtles.
Edit: Thanks for 300 likes! The new breed of turtle-crocodile shall take over!
IIRC, they're warm blooded, so they'd also have a much wider range of habitats than turtles. I could potentially see them not just replacing turtles with the oceanic idea, but also taking the niche that cetaceans have, before cetaceans even evolve. They'd essentially be something akin to an Armoured, warm blooded crocodile, with potential a few subspecies of Armoured filter feeders.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178that sounds terrifying I’m not even gonna lie
Thats how we got turtle
New turtles just dropped
Isn't that just snapping turtles though?
Hmm, you know these videos are usually focused on thr big powerful types but here's an idea, could White-tailed deer survive the mesozoic?
Seriously they're one of the most successful herbivores in modern North America and would actually have serious doubts about weather they could get around the massive beasts of that era
It would have to be the late cretaceous cause if the plants life earlier is like the types that remain today modern mamals can't eat them due to the silica they contain.
@@jameswilliams2075To be fair, I'm pretty sure those deer eat nettles, and the bristles on nettles are silica hairs, so it's potentially not as much of an issue as you'd think.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 yes but deer are selective of what they eat and there are other plants that don't have them deer can't subsist on a diet of the Mesozoic plants with much more silica in the edible parts of the plants would be fatal over time
It won't be interesting for the majority of people
@Callmebot_ Well I'm sorry for suggesting variety and something a little different.
Deathclaws would be the honey badgers to the theropods. Small yet very feisty and strong.
Literally what I was about to comment 😅
Deathclaws, the Fallout-rageous killer
This is just "but can he beat Goku" but for Paleo nerds
Glorious, isn't it? 😌
But, And hear me out on this... could it beat Goku?
deathclaws will set traps, and are smart enough, you can befriend it and use it as a guard dog. Some deathclaws can even talk, read, and use tools. Also Deathclaws can almost instantly heal, because the FEV.
in fallout some wear robes, speak English, and can use computers
I recall one weakness that Death Claws have very poor eyesight, just like Rhinos in the wild. They need to be aggressive since they can't see to far away.
But their senses are highly tuned. That is why its almost impossible to sneak by.
@@Cursedmanplays4631 They could be using their hearing and smell to find prey or threats.
@@paleface171 exactly.
IIRC, DCs have better vision at night, which lends towards the idea of them tending towards ambush tactics.
It sounds to me like the death claw would be the honey badger of the dinosaur world
They're already the oversized honey badger of the fallout world
how bro
Just two things bro:
1-I think your videos are a gold mine of evolutionary speculation, your work with other channels inspires me to try to do my own project, I hope you are very successful not only in this work in question, but also in yours life as a whole, never stop bro.
2-I have some ideas for your scenarios:
A)Terror Birds in the Permian (Yes, the ghost already told you that, but I wanted to ask you again)
B)Utahraptors in Skyrim
C) Maybe it's not the focus, but it would be interesting if you addressed, even at a glance, how insects and fish evolved in Orbis Pogona
Congrats
While the Deathclaws are hyper-aggressive in-game, I’m thinking that this is just a game mechanic. Deathclaws are just another enemy trying to kill you, rather than an actual organism trying to survive in its enviornment. The deathclaws are very intelligent and very successful, so they would obviously know how to weigh risk vs reward once they understand which animals to hunt and which ones to avoid. Finally, the chance of a sauropod attacking deathclaws and vice versa are only over territory due to the risk of long term debilitating injuries. It’s simply not worth it to pick a fight if that fight means you’ll starve to death due to a broken leg
That actualy makes sense they even work it groups my head canon the scientist that made deathclaws use hit and run and ambush tactics since they are created to fight against people with guns
Don't forget that Deathclaws have
1: Rotating wrists, and dexterous hands, which bear an alarming resemblance to human hands in structure, that they can grab and hold with. Against both Theri and Tarbosaur, they'd probably be better off, especially with their ability to plan and analyze at the same level as a human child, meaning they could easily figure out how to ram a tarb in the side, hamstring it, break its' legs, etc. Same with Theri, though the advantage there is that Deathclaws can easily grab the claws mid-swing and just twist the wrists, which would shatter the Theri's bones, due to them not being meant to move that way.
2: These are 'Intelligent' creatures, on par with human children. Children can be scary smart/intelligent, and incredibly cruel, which is also displayed in Deathclaws.
3:The longer a Deathclaw lives, the larger it gets, with some being 13'+. Some of them live longer than the average human today, so imagine a pack being successful enough that their strongest members are the same size as Tarbosaur or Theri.
4: Most carnivorous dinosaurs, and Theri and Hadrosaurs, are 25-50 feet LONG, not tall. Deathclaws, while hunched, stand TALL, so it wouldn't be a 13'+ Deathclaw versus a 30' Tarb, it would be a 13'+ Deathclaw versus a 10' tall Tarb. Even the average Deathclaw is almost the same height, as mentioned in the video.
At least in 4, they also seemed to exhibit a form of mild regeneration. Sometimes I break their limbs and just watch them shamble along from a distance, and then they start moving normally after a few minutes. If that is actually supposed to be one of their features, they are more likely to survive any hard encounters, so long as their head, heart, and other major organs aren't destroyed or too badly damaged. That and the fact they can knock a full suit of power armor back, means they can probably stagger at least anything that threatens them. Still probably not a great idea for them to fight anything armored or that has wide area attacks, like a Stegosaur.
Climbing a neck to cut the throat of a sauropod is way too silly of a killing method. Not to mention.the risk/reward scale is far too steep. For a predator. A fall could cripple or kill them depending on distance fallen.
The thing about deathclaws is that they are jacked. They have absurd muscle mass and are way stronger than an average animal of their size. So most of their body is a thick hide, muscle mass and hardened bones. It's actually very hard to land a lethal shot on them.
Something to remember is Deathclaws are actually pack animals so would most definitely be hunting in packs.
That first speculative evolution is literally just a mini tarrasque
Fun fact, the original deathclaw model *was* a tarrasque! Compare the og deathclaw to the creature in the second Dark Sun video game and it's very noticeable.
WilliamSRD has a video on the game. I'm not sure if there's more content on it or not.
A DC is basically a megaraptoran with the head of a carnotaurini abelisaurid
Only smarter, more social and cooperative, and far quicker at adaptation
My suspicion is that Death Claws are surviving partly on radiation, which is why we see a lot in The Glowing Sea. Same with the large mutated insects.
The lore on radiation is very inconsistent. Do ghouls need to eat, drink, or even breathe? Depends!!! It's very much dependent on which writer was handling it.
But there's nothing to eat in the Glowing Sea, there's no vegetation, it should be empty, yet mutant wildlife of enormous size thrives there. Why? It has to be able to use the radiation as a power source.
Which implies that when the radiation dies away, so will the mutants.
More likely is the mutants have to leave the Glowing Sea and seek sustenance elsewhere. After all, they're pretty on sight when YOU go into the Sea, so perhaps radiation isn't a complete diet.
I think you underestimate a hadrosaur's ability to throw its weight around. Deathclaws may have the adrenaline to power through grievous wounds but there is no gritting your teeth and pushing through being pounded into a fine paste. Also of course Death Claws would evolve, even with them being able to hold their own in the Gobi an animal can always better adapt to their environment.
also the wound healing ability of reptiles in general
Agreed
evolution isnt a constant, if a creature has no reason to evolve then it wont. not that its common, but we see that happen with things like crocodiles or horseshoe crabs that have stayed almost exactly the same for millions and millions of years
@@theoneandonlybinsk3793 See that is a misconception, because crocodiles and horseshoe crabs did change subtly over millions of years. While filling the same niches they did become more efficient at said niche, for example the ancestors of modern crocodiles were likely warm-blooded but changed from endothermy to ectothermy as it best suited their lifestyle.
Deathclaws may seem to be "overpowered" for their environment already but they could downsize to be in better balance with their environment, suicidal aggression could cause selective pressure to become more passive, shed their seemingly useless horns, become better adapted for running or upsize to directly compete with Tarbosaurus.
People think hadrosaurs are just like walking meat but they were beasts compared to alot of theropods
I think you're underestimating the negatives of being hyper aggressive. Most preditors will flee if you stand your ground because even a minor wond can leed to death. The death claw would likely evolve to be less aggressive or have less adrenalin as the most aggressive ones put themselves in danger and get killed of more than the ones who are less aggressive
8:06 pause the video, lol
They have cellular regeneration minor wounds don't matter they are also immune to poisons, neural toxins
In this timeline, I could have my own domesticated Death Claw.
Deathclaws can regenerate fast. They literally rush Yao Guais, which are mutated hyper aggressive bears, and even gulpers which are poisonous. I dont think they'll lose their hyper aggressiveness. More than likely hunt the dangerous preys in groups using strategies. Some flank others stay in front to surround, the ones in the front use dirty methods like throw dirt or launch boulders, and the ones in the back leap in for the slashing. Then all of then go for the kill.
What about Komodo Dragons? I haven't seen enough videos about ppl talking about those cool Dragons!
Deathclaws can swim. They live across a river in New Vegas, which can only be accessed by swimming.
Thats probably just for gameplay reasons though. I imagine in the lore they walked from somewhere in arizona. Ofc if it was an island youd have a point but it's not
@@mappingshaman5280 As a matter of fact, they can also be found on the island of Far Harbor in Fallout 4. Which effectively means there's only two ways they got there:
Either someone transported them by boat, or they can actually swim REALLY LONG distances.
(Or it could just be a case of Bethesda throwing them in there just because.)
@@AurelionSass Probably Bethesda because they don't care about lore, but yeah. They logically can swim.
@@mappingshaman5280 Also, they'd have to have climbed down a sheer cliff face if they didn't swim. So either they can swim, or they could climb better than apes and bears.
@isabelpage5950 well like I said I think that's gameplay vs reality because if that area wasn't cliff, the map would be bigger (which ofc obsidian intended but they didn't have the time to implement)
I love the video. This was well done and well worth the wait. I hope this blows up enough in terms of views. As well as new subscribers.
*Fallout fans unite!*
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Next video: Could Puss in Boots survive the cretaceous
So the end is just All Tomorrows, but with Sophont Deathclaws instead of humans.
Thank you for using sophont correctly.
a mod adding all these different types of deathclaws. would be halarious. inventing essentially deathclaw hell.
As far as Deathclaw Vs Large theropod goes… Deathclaws know the importance of their own eggs… They could very likely figure out the importance of their largest opponents’ eggs…
Oh naw, they would learn to cook scrambled eggs lol 😆
Babe wake up, new Sangheili lore just dropped
I think they're slow speed is made up for by being very durable. Then again. Hunting might be difficult. But Therinosaurus wouldn't be too much of a problem. I think the Deathclaw is pretty resistant to sharp cutting implements.
Imagine being in a war and you see a deathclaw running full speed at you
I’d hate to be that Chinese soldier. Your country is dying, so you enlist or get drafted and get shipped off to a frozen death trap. You’ve heard horror stories about what the Americans have been building to counteract your invasion, from giant suits of armor to a nuclear robot.
Then, in the dead of night, your entire camp is ripped apart by a dinosaur on crack.
@@CMitchell808 nice narration they should make a animation about that !
@@bigjimmy3792it would make for a perfect fall out horror animation were the audience follows a lone Chinese soldier trapped in a large bunker with a group of death infact you can probably make it into a small horror game similar to what they did with alien with the main goal being escape and get help.
okay so im not trying to sound snobby or anything. great video and i love it.
buuuuuuuuut i just want to clear up some misconceptions people dont know
1.
lore wise deathclaws are extremely fast, much stronger than they look, unbelievably nimble, and quiet as hell, being able to sneak into buildings. not only able to comfortably move around in building, but literally SNEAK into it even with several people inside, and continue to sneak around whilst inside. they also can perceive things extremely fast, even using senses like smelling and hearing, and are actually 100% bullet proof to smaller calibur bullets. putting this together, like almost all raptor species arent even a threat and even several bigger and dangerous dinosaurs wouldnt be too big an issue, as the super predator that can dodge a limited number of bullets could easily just jump over most things and begin digging into their preys backs. death claws can break advance steels with sheer strength. their claws will easily cut through it as well. they could probably even bite through metal. NO armored dinosaur is too sturdy for them. they could kill a deathclaw yes, but they are NOT going to be too tight to crack.
2.
as you theorized deathclaws can go a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time without eating proper amounts of food as they are also meant to to basically have a perfect metabolism that doesnt waste a single calorie, an immune system that nukes almost all illnesses, can go ages without sleep AND can probably hibernate like most reptiles(i know reptiles dont hibernate, but deathclaws are warm blooded so if im correct that means itd technically be hibernation for them) when need be for whatever reason as well.
3.
deathclaws would absolutely NOT over hunt. there are several occasions to prove this isnt the case, but deathclaws not including hunt more than they need, but a pretty large nest, that was also growing in population, was literally eating solely a small towns population and hunting them solely at night. they were so unseen and took so little numbers at a time that everyone believed they were a myth. if they wouldnt over hunt in a small down, i highly doubt they would with much more, much bigger, much healthier prey. especially since they are territory hunters.
4.
as for the whole deathclaw aggression thing, thats only really a gameplay thing. deathclaws prefer mansized food or big food thats REALLY slow but most importantly, food thats in THEIR territory. lone deathclaws are only really a result of being hunted down by the brotherhood in 3, and stupid writing in 4 and 76 seeing as they should never even be in those locations(or 3 but whatever). but deathclaws absolutely know when and when not to fight. in fallout 4, we see one leave territory only to find its eggs, and it frenzied when all but one was destroyed, as reptiles sometimes do. unlike any reptile, the father deathclaw new to be passive when its egg was returned, and from then on continued being passive to what it perceived as a "friend" for lack of a better term. like i said, it knew not to fight and even keep it around after it could realistically have killed him without danger to his last hatchling.
and 5, in reality there are very few things lore wise that can even really hurt deathclaws in the wastes. lore and species wise. not counting robots or factions or unique shit. mirelurks? it could even gut a queen and its acid wouldnt do anything, nor would its limbs do much. the bears(i dunno how to spell chinese words sorry)? its slap its head clean off. like maybe a behemoth because is just that meaty but id say a deathclaw isnt incapable of winning on occasion and then the tunnelers from fallout new vegas as they are too fast and can cut through tons of steel and concrete with ease. but a deathclaw is still a superior creature. while in game the rule of cool is a priority, lore wise deathclaws are very thought out as being perfectly tuned apex predators.
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this isnt much of a point but just my statement, i LOVE therizinosaurus. second favorite dino beaten only by the spino. as a lover of paleontology and fallout lore, i can confidently say i dont think therizinosaurus would have even nearly as easy a time against one deathclaw as you think... they could definitely dodge the claws and would more than easily be capable of guttting them or lunging for the head, which they know to go for heads or stomachs, judging by the few spirited animations that play. similar to jaguars which oddly go for the head which no other big cat does on average.
and they DO have the ability to jump and lunge. doing so in all 3d games. in 3 and nv its clearly effortless for them and they can cover great distances considering. as far as 4 and 76, its not tiring but they do look frantic as they role afterwards. this is due to Bethesda and its stupid habit of dramatic and unrealistic nor consistent animations with the creature its for
and um... as far as swimming...
i have no doubt at all a deathclaw could swim... theres the pack in a canyon near one of the biggest rivers in new vegas with a mostly semi aquatic population, being mirelurks as enemies.
in short they are more than capable of taking down almost anything 1-1, as a pack probably could take anything out, and have shown great ability to self limit for an animal. they also probably wouldnt procreate or spread out TOO much but its up in the air on that one. when deathclaws do spread out though, they SPREAD out. its easy to forget new vegas even in game doesnt match to scale with actual Nevada, and in reality the distance between several packs is weeks long, even though plenty of suitable and sustainable were available along the way. and again their population was fairly low even though all packs were very well established long before we start the game. as everyone knows not to go in those areas.
The thought of a deathclaw climbing a sauropod is hilarious
This series completely disproves what the directors of the halo show said "they wanted a different outlook/story as to appease none fans of halo"
Clawman cenozoic would be wild, but I think surviving the KT event will shrink them a bit to make them even more food efficient. That entire period would be rough, not even mentioning any in the Americas close to ground zero was the correct choice. Even if they reached it they'd be wiped out.
Just imagine everything around you dying and going extinct while you survive on the bare minimum as all of your pray and food wither away.
if a deathclaw can take a missile to the face without flinching then i'm really worried for the dinos
To be fair that's just games being like that. Even your human character can substain multiple shots to the head. At one point we have to draw a line and decide what is game mechanic and what is the creature's actual characteristic. I would say the hyper-agression is also just a game mechanic (although it can be realistic), considering even people will run up to a creature more dangerous than them and start attacking it. It's just how ai of enemy factions work.
@@lorinctoth9402 your honor, nate and nora are simply just built different
@@lorinctoth9402Maybe but considering that Deathclaws are bio weapons. It's entirely possible that the aggression is inbuilt
@@robodude145The courier took a 9mm to the face nearly point blank and got up. Toughness in fallout is, uh, kinda graded on a curve clearly.
Leveled raiders can take a missile to the face. (It's ok they're just really tough.)
As someone currently obsessed with Fallout and Ark again, this will be a nice watch
That tortoise was absurd
I'd like to see the reverse. If any dinosaur could survive or evolve to fit into the Fallout Universes wasteland.
Trex? Not enough megafauna it'd probably starve to death.
Sauropods like brachiosaurus? Not enough greenery in the post apocalyptic wasteland to sustain them.
Smaller dinosaurs like say raptors or abeliasaurs? That's a maybe. Though they'd definitely compete with Deathclaws and humans for resources.
I get the arid echosestem but deathclaws have been seen in many different enviorments
As someone who doesnt live in the confines of one country, I enjoyed seeing the metric system in this video and enjoyed it a lot. MASSIVE LIKE.!
Absolutely love the video especially the wild turtle evolution. In Nuka World Gatorclaws we’re introduced and I could see something like that evolve in the waters too
10:22 not to mention these things throw cars housing nuclear reactors which require several tons of shielding, that dino is getting tossed over and turned into a bowl for that deathclaw, same goes for similar dinos.
That tail on some of them isn't going to be that big of a issue blunt force is pretty minor compared to the hydrostatic shock from a 50BMG hitting it several times. It's just game over when they team up.
I question how many T-Rexes would it take to take down a Tyrantrum. It has to be more than 50.
Well a Tyrantrum is much smaller.
Tyrantrum Is Like 8 ft Tall 💀
Tyrantrum is much smaller than a T.rex and isn't made out of literal rock despite being a rock type so less than one probably.
@@thenerdbeast7375 You do realize we are talking about a magical dinosaur who can rip through thick metal sheets like it was paper(actual dex entry).
@@dalekrenegade2596 And it has super powers. Not discrediting the size difference, but both are important factors.
One route that I think might also be a possibility is the scavenger route. While the deathclaws themselves are murderous killing machines, their relatively low caloric requirements, their high intelligence, and their tolerence to abnormal food sources indicates that they might be very opportunistic about stealing other predators' kills. Alternatively, I could see the deathclaws using their own kills as bait for scavengers or opportunistic predators to then ambush them for another meal.
I see them as either completely self-destructing in a disturbingly short period of time and taking most of the biosphere with them or ending up as surprisingly chill people, and I do mean _people_ since deathclaws are at least occasionally fully sapient right from the first game in the series and about the only way they take a step back and calm the heck down is if they get in the habit of thinking about things.
Suggestion: Could camels survive Sand Kingdom from Super Mario Odyssey
I love the sudden burst of creative Fallout videos popping up due to the Fallout show lol
Edgy (and basically invincible) lizard vs big chicken(s).
I will say, one thing you missed. While the deathclaw has very thick hide and scales all over its body, its head is notably hard. In the games, shooting a deathclaw in the head doesnt actually do more damage to it. This could be some adaptation or purposeful mutation during original creation, but ive always liked to think that their skulls are VERY thick as brain size in lizards varies wildly and brain size actually only very weakly correlates to actual intelligence (at least according to my 5mins of internet research so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). The belly however is considered their "weak spot" when it comes to doing damage to them in game. This could lead to some problems for them in the long run considering their bipedal nature. Great video tho. long time fallout fan with an interest in biology, this was the perfect video to introduce me to your channel.
Incredible video, the overall fallout pip boy editing style is phenomenal
I do think the Sauropods and Hadrosaurs would do better than you say they did.
Important to note that their size can be used as a lethal weapon.
Getting rammed or stomped by a massive dinosaur is going to cause significant internal damage.
I know we like to imagine them being stupid meatsacks who can't defend themselves, but I just don't think that's the case.
We just gotta remember that Herbivores are usually a lot more dangerous than Carnivores or, at the very least, on a similar scale to them.
Wouldn't change much though.
Not at all. Deathclaws inn lore, can survive standing beside nukes. This is seen inn lonesome road DLC for fallout new vegas as an example. Just imagine the blunt damage an explosion upp close with that radius would do.
@@trueredpanda1538 Gameplay is not lore do not use it as a standard. Laser guns cleave people in half in lore in one shot.
Death claw have a trait called indeterminate growth meaning they will keep growing if the environment let's them
@@williamcassity5572a weapon deathclaws are.
@@williamcassity5572like alligators
in fallout one and two they just ripped the powerarmour in half so your feet where still standing and your torso on the ground. i would say that if it can rip through 2 inches of steel it can deffinately rip open bone armour!
Deathclaws weren't made with FEV, I'm pretty sure. They're the result of genetic engineering and hybridization.
The Master DID modify Deathclaws with FEV at some point as did The Enclave - the latter's efforts resulting in the appearance of fully sapient Deathclaws.. but baseline Deathclaws have nothing to do with FEV.
would love to see a vid covering mirelurks,lake lurks and the variou varients
9:19 if these things are bisecting humans that thing isn't going to keep its head long.
2:47 I knew someone like you would have very refined tastes.
3:38 “Rad-scorpions… Rad-Scorpions everywhere!” - A Wastelander traumatized by Rad-scorpions.
I’m going to say this because it’s really hurting me, but I am 100% convinced that a death claw could NOT take on a fully grown sauropod for one crucial reason, they’re not just going to let the death claw climb upon them at some point they are going to shake it off and when it gets shake off, it’s GOING to DIE. I’m just saying. A fully grown healthy Hadrosaurs would also put up a very good fight as yet again they’re not going to let them just tear them apart. They’re going to fight back and they have the weapons to fight for example they can deliver devastating kicks with their front and back legs, and they would also have the protection of the herd to defend each-other you are underestimating these herbivore man
I agree. A deathclaw could probably shrug off or at least survive a kick from a hadrosaur. Also if deathclaws are smart enough to take down a mature sauropod they are smart enough to avoid them, or at least target compromised individuals.
You are aware that this is how they were hunted by things that couldn't take multiple .50 cal shots and rip open inches think steel plates, right?
@@glebeldionrayparcon1008 thanks for agreeing with my argument I think I don’t know what to make of this but thanks for the input🤔🫡🤷🏾♂️
Bullets are not similar to hadrosaur stomp. Bullets can pass through a target or be stopped by armor, while the damage of being sandwiched between the ground and a foot of a 10 ton hadrosaur cannot be reduced.
@@glebeldionrayparcon1008 except this things are wicked fast. Throw in more like 60km/h.
“Throughout heaven and earth, I alone I’m the abominable one”
i absolutely love all of the art man it’s always awesome
regarding speed quote "running for the exit hexes at the first sign of a Deathclaw is your best chance of survival. If you're well equipped and want to stick it out, though, get in at least one shot at long range, because Deathclaws move so fast that you're unlikely to get another long-range attack as they charge you. They'll always close rapidly so they can use their powerful claws to tear and rend you."
Video idea: Would dragons survive the mesozoic (specifically Wyverns)
10:35 for the record Deathclaws can actually break your power armor.
they definitely aint cutting through it like lightsabers
great work madly! interesting time period to choose and great video idea and editing as usual. keep it up, im sure we'd all love to see more like this. perhaps xenomorphs in africa 98 million yrs ago? or mothra in brazil 85 million yrs ago?
Oh God yes. They might not be the biggest predator but it would 100% be the most ferocious.
I love the custom art you do for each video!
Anthronychus Mortum when they realize they live in a society: 💀
Mfw deathclaw taxes
Loving the effort on making the fallout aesthetic work. Good job
Utahraptor in the Cenozoic
You should make a spec evo on Godzilla specifically the monsterverse since they go with a more “naturalistic” style of depicting the monsters at least with the first couple of movies
The Hornturtle is glorious
Always a great day when madly Mesozoic posts a video 😊
You should do one with the Night Fury. Just a random thought.... definitely has nothing to do with you kinda sounding like Hiccup.
Giant Sloths in the contemporary Americas?
Ya know it really comes down to the Deathclaws pack mentality and that perental instinct to protect their young…gonna have to say yes, the Deathclaws would comfortably thrive…
Up until the birth of Chuck Norris…
If you're still working on the gorgonopsid follow up video, there is one potential Evo for that which you've overlooked. We have fossil evidence that the family, even if not the gorgonopsid you chose, did develop venom a few times. Could be an interesting option for certain areas that would essentially be a more mammalian, if not exactly true mammal, version of the Komodo Dragon, or potentially something like a venomous panther for south America.
incredible amount of production value
I was thinking while watching this, would a thery have and chance. Sure their claws are sharp and hit hard but shooting a death claw in the back with anything does next to no damage meaning their armour would probably survive the slash. Also with the armoured animals the death claw could almost certainly do enough damage to them. If you consider they were basically there to be deployed into areas where there would be a lot of power armour. Their strength is insanely high as estimates for lore accurate power armour puts some off it at about 2 tonne where they can easily ragdoll it and make it look easy. Also you didn't mention their roar, as we know dinosaurs probably didn't roar but deathclaws do which could through off competition. I think their only problem would be large theropods because as you said they are hyper aggressive and will attack anything in sight.
Would therapods realistically be able to survive on land if they had a more upright posture like Godzilla?
Been waiting for the GOAT to upload!
You didn't mention their ability to camouflage like a chameleon!
Would love to see a different video centered around the faster and more adaptive west coast deathclaws as opposed to the commonwealth deathclaws referenced here but… they might do too well. 😂🤘
It seems you blended the two together as one? I suppose it would evolve rapidly depending on where it is!, makes me wonder what a jungle deathclaw would look and be like 😮
the spongebob footsteps as it climbed the soropod got me, that shits funny. also oddly enough the lore of fallout lends validation to ur 3rd evolutionary idea. there are or was a group of deathclaws in fallout lore that had human intillect and opted to communicate rather than kill. unfortunately due to the fear created by their lesser learned breatheren humans learned of the deathclaws and just saw big scary monsters and opted to wipe them out indescriminently so this clawmen thing is not only plausible but has already occurred
I'm pretty sure the intelligent death laws were a result of further experiments from the enclave because they needed them to be slightly smarter in order to tame them or something but got the sapient -furry- scaly bait instead idk
Those deathclaws were only created by enclave experimentation using the forced evolutionary virus.
Great VId 10/10!
Oh and please do something about Mirelurks
Damn you made the Africans the aggressive ones and the European peaceful 😭
The amount of you fuckwits trying to draw parallels between the fictional lizard people and real life is hurting my head. Not to mention the fact this takes place in the Late Cretaceous. Go outside.
What did MM mean by this?
@@SamueL-td7fb is this a real question?
this isnt humans 😮 that means they will be different cultures and also it depends on the climate
Africa is the hardest server .
I would imagine a death claw would do quite well in the Cretaceous. Even though it would be outclassed in size and strength(in most cases,) it would still have intelligence and speed on its side to an extent since this thing is literally meant to be a living weapon of war, not a naturally occurring creature that means this thing lives to kill hence their aggressive nature and territorial behavior. They’re seeing as have to been shown to be quite smart as in fall four and 76 I think, they’re shown to be able to throw cars and I think if I remember correctly pull up pocket sand move in an attempt to blind people/enemies I would imagine if this creature would go against Taurus. The trapezoids would actually find it difficult to find against a death claw plus that, and supposedly their pack hunting nature, and they would probably dominate Asia, even though these things are meant to fight humans specifically they are to be able to immediately insert themselves as Apex priors environments where everything is heavily mutated and much more dangerous than naturally occurring creatures with no radiation. They would probably be able to elite most creatures and even take down large sewer pods probably by learn them into traps. I mean, we see these things have fight against giant mutated giant human/super mutant Scenes that are able to literally hit the ground with such force that it sends out shockwaves which a death claw roar is also capable of so I would imagine death calls would actually be able to dominate any environment. They were put in except for an aquatic one in which they would just be sitting ducks, waiting to get eaten by a mosasaur possibly drown due to them being reasonably heavy. That’s just my two cents. Let me know what you think. Also, I love your world of bearded dragons video. Keep it up and I can’t wait to see more.❤ crap I just realized that I said Word for Word what you said about their strengths and weaknesses that is actually quite cool because it shows I’m not only know about that cause but you do as well so yeah us saying the same things not the same behaviors deathclaws are able to enact also shows that we both think quite similar when we think strengths and weaknesses I ain’t saying I’m just like you, but I am definitely saying that I came up with these thoughts and then watch the video and then heard them echo.
And then the deathclaw looked at me and said, "I need about tree fiddy." Well, it was about that time that I realized that the 'deathclaw' was really a 30 foot tall creature from the Mesozoic era. That damn Loch Ness Monsta done got me again!
Deathclaws, can take small arms fire (generally requiring either high caliber weapons like .50 cals or very good shots with other high power rifle cartridges) and can rip through tanks and power armor. Best question is what can survive them?
Nothing to suggest they can destroy tanks that's just ridiculous ( PA even enclave models are inferior to true MBTs )