People may be criticising your math skills, but you are among the best competitive oriented ptcgp content creators out there. Subbed. You simply have so much meta and competitive discussion and so much faster than other creators
The breakdown of that second game was so cool. I loved how you explained the flow of the game several turns before it ended. That kind of thinking ahead is really important for higher level play and you showed a really good example of it, even if there was a small misplay involved
7:37 If Exeggutor does NOT attack and knock out the Druddigon just yet and you don't find your second Leaf in time you lose, because Celebi gets infinit energy while Exec tanks. Thought I should point that out since the Celebi was already in a winning position, there was no need to rush things. In some scenarios not attacking can be the winning play!
With the mewtwo matchup, could see an agrument be made for using greninja to put pressure on the ralts / kirlias, as if you have greninja + gyrados on your turn you can always knock out the mewtwo without worrying about potions or anything anyways
@@TillyTCG The chance of flipping 4/4 heads with a Celebi is 1/16, or 6.125%. You said it was 20%. These types of mistakes have been spread throughout your last few videos. Doing the calculations in real time yourself is actually quite tedious, so I recommend just pulling up a spreadsheet if you want to make comments about probabilities in your videos. For example, the chance of flipping 3/4 heads is 1/4. That means that the chance of flipping 3 or more heads from 4 flips is 5/16, or 31.25%. I doubt you're doing that in your head mid match.
@TillyTCG While yes, the probability of a coin flip landing heads is independent of the last coin flip, it's still a binomial distribution. So it isn't 50/50 unless it's literally one coin flip
@@dracoblizzard7944You make the damn video, chill out… really not that serious… if you’re so damn worried you print them out and you make the videos. Tilly’s dope y’all just so needy it’s weird.
this deck actually won 2 tournaments, the thing with gyarados when online it can't be counter with mew ex aswell. I feel like this card is a better charizard honestly
Been loving the content. And I appreciate you giving us high level battles. From both you and your opponents. I’ve been watching a lot of battles and some of the showcases of decks I’ve seen haven’t really been against “good players” so again, appreciate all that you’re doing. Keep up the good work. Hope to see this channel grow more. Much love
I just built this deck yesterday. I went through a similar process of deck building that you were describing. I think I watched your video yesterday about a bunch of deck lists and I saw this variant and thought that the greninja drudigon looked interesting. Yeah I have to say this feels like the best way to play the deck so far. I actually do well against Celebi and can get a win streak going.
I needed to stop playong today. I had 7 games in a row where I did not draw a single Professor's research. I had to check to make sure I had them in the deck. Turns I did but was extremely unlucky and playing behind in card draw everynone of those games.
Thoughts on Dragonite + Mew ex + Druddigon? I've been losing with it due to abysmal luck and my lack of awareness (DO NOT try to Genome Hack a Pika lmao), but I do think it's a better version of Dragonite.
I really dislike playing stage 1 and stage 2 lines in the same deck with no way to tutor for evolutions just makes the deck really inconsistent, more often than not you just end up bricking all your evolutions and literally nothing u can do about it, it's really the worst feeling... I've been having way more success with a 2-2 starmie and vaporeon line instead, starmie allows u to pressure decks like celebi early and vap lets u pivot out starmie to gyarados to clean up, the only problem is u run 3 stage 1s and no high hp basic as your opener so u might lose tempo to some really fast pokemon that can swing on turn 1 like exegg ex
What in the world are you talking about at the very beginning of that first game? Why would you waste your Leaf instead of using Magikarp's Leap Out? At first I thought you were talking about putting energy on the Druddigon, but no.
@@carstan62 yeah he didn't explain the thought process well tbf and I only figured it out in retrospect but I think the play is fine. Kind of a tricky spot.
Anyone can explain to me the effect of LeviatorEx's attack? It says I should lose energy but I don't? But sometimes I think I do? It's weird, I'm probably missing something
@14:35 even without the misplay, you would have needed to top deck Leaf to survive. Otherwise Druddigon would just get two shot by the Exeggutor. That’s why I run Mew ex + Budding Expeditioner in my Gyarados deck. Between Leaf, Budding, Misty heads + attach for turn to Mew, X-Speed, or Research drawing X-Speed, you have plenty of ways to retreat Mew after your opponent plays Sabrina.
Mew Ex is less good as stall than drudigon because it gives two trophies. Also, mew ex gets one shot by the three most played meta decks (mewtwo, celebi and venipede)
Wait if you use leap out it won’t burn the energy right? So you didn’t need to leaf on that first match. At least that’s how it works with Abra’s teleport he keep his energy idk if it’s different with magikarp
@ no at 5:10 you attached to magikarp and used leaf instead of just leaping out and switching to drud. In the video you said you did that to preserved the attachment so do you lose it? I thought it worked the same as abra’s teleport
7:45 I feel like they should've not attack with that exegutor for at least 2 turns then keep attaching with celebi for higher chance of one shotting Gyarados. Kinda misplay there a bit.
I did this vs a fighting deck earlier. He had his golem set up which would revenge my egg so I just set up celebi and victrebell. Brought in victreebell as its only 1 prize and could KO his weakened drud and my celebi was in position to take golem if he took victreebell. Instead he went a weaker option and I picked off a Benched geodude b4 he committed golem and ggs
30:25 retreat mewtwo -> kill with mew -> kill with sabrina and mewtwo? P.S. pretty sure opponent isn't playing sabrina bc of xspeed, slab and likely gio
I've been using vaporeon starmie and a 1,1 line for Garados EX and been having a ton of luck. Usally super easy to get into a starmie and and passively set up the gyarados if you draw into it. This deck being highlighted just seems like a weaker version of drudegon greninja decks compared to other variants
gyrados + greninja can 1 shot even Charizard. the only stage pokemon you cant OHKO with this deck is Venusaur EX with 190 HP This deck is the one I used to finish my 45 wins emblem event.
5:10 he make a mistake... He don't even need to use leaf to return Magikarp to switch Pokemon... He just wasted the trainer card. Magikarp 1 energy can just literally switch Magikarp to 1 of our Pokemon on the bench. Someone don't even read the card....
He can just freaking leak out with 1 energy for magikarp there no point of using leaf is wasting it. Plus the new exeggcutor need 4 energy to use his attack and he didnt even think of that and use leaf? His opponent exeggcute only 2 energy cant do anything if it evolve to exeggcutor...
@@yongming929 are you an idiot or something 🤦♂️?? There are 2 kinds of exeggutor one is ex and the new one. He is playing safe cause the opponent might have an EX which deals 40 damage which will kill magicarp and brick the deck.
@@yongming929he's playing around Sabrina. He doesn't know which exeggutor the opponent is running. If he leaps out, he can't evolve karp and he dies to egg ex and Sabrina. If he regular retreats he's an energy behind on the 4 energy attack. If he stays in he dies to egg ex. You're being pretty arrogant and condescending for no real reason. The leaf play is fine because it means that opponent can never one-shot the karp, and he still has outs with Misty.
Scolipede has 10 more hp, attack cost one energy less, and retreat is one less. Being more energy efficient is huge in terms of attacking quickly and the retreating + koga combo
Holy I’m stupid on coin flip math
We still love your videos man. Just get it right, no big deal
The good thing is, the commenters are actually helping you. Others never learn it.
People may be criticising your math skills, but you are among the best competitive oriented ptcgp content creators out there. Subbed.
You simply have so much meta and competitive discussion and so much faster than other creators
My man doesn’t know how probability and combinatory numbers work, and still wins
Bro thought there was a 20% chance for 4x heads 😂
I feel that. Wondered where all his percentages came from
Ok good, i have no idea where he's getting his numbers from.
I was litr saying that lmao
Lmao I wanted to comment but I was sure someone else was gonna do it. If players can't read what makes u think they can do math? 😂
The breakdown of that second game was so cool. I loved how you explained the flow of the game several turns before it ended. That kind of thinking ahead is really important for higher level play and you showed a really good example of it, even if there was a small misplay involved
Glad you enjoyed :)
7:37 If Exeggutor does NOT attack and knock out the Druddigon just yet and you don't find your second Leaf in time you lose, because Celebi gets infinit energy while Exec tanks.
Thought I should point that out since the Celebi was already in a winning position, there was no need to rush things. In some scenarios not attacking can be the winning play!
Lul I made same comment without seeing yours first. Definitely agree, celebi got the game right there.
Apart from the math, this guy said Druddigon is trash when it first came out, now this guy says it's the BEST tank lmao
Thank you for showing losses too, very helpful.
I want every game to be a learning experience! If it has value I’ll include it always
Yeah bro, it's better to understand the shortcomings of the deck by looking at the losses.
He values transparency!
Exactly. Want to comment and also thank you for showing losses. Its good to see the strengths and weaknesses of a deck before playing it ourselves.
Funny I remember you saying drudigon was trash on the release day predections. Glad to see it doing well.
With the mewtwo matchup, could see an agrument be made for using greninja to put pressure on the ralts / kirlias, as if you have greninja + gyrados on your turn you can always knock out the mewtwo without worrying about potions or anything anyways
Someone give this man a coin odds sheet so he doesn't embarrass himself
Everything is a 50:50 it either happens or doesn’t
@@TillyTCG The chance of flipping 4/4 heads with a Celebi is 1/16, or 6.125%. You said it was 20%. These types of mistakes have been spread throughout your last few videos. Doing the calculations in real time yourself is actually quite tedious, so I recommend just pulling up a spreadsheet if you want to make comments about probabilities in your videos. For example, the chance of flipping 3/4 heads is 1/4. That means that the chance of flipping 3 or more heads from 4 flips is 5/16, or 31.25%. I doubt you're doing that in your head mid match.
@TillyTCG While yes, the probability of a coin flip landing heads is independent of the last coin flip, it's still a binomial distribution. So it isn't 50/50 unless it's literally one coin flip
@@dracoblizzard7944You make the damn video, chill out… really not that serious… if you’re so damn worried you print them out and you make the videos. Tilly’s dope y’all just so needy it’s weird.
Even with vaporeon is Hard to play with Gyarados, but when the things go well feels pretty nice
I never knew i would subscribe to a tcgp youtuber, but here i am. Love your videos honestly
Someone needs to buy this man a calculator.
this deck actually won 2 tournaments, the thing with gyarados when online it can't be counter with mew ex aswell. I feel like this card is a better charizard honestly
Is that because Full Gyara can tank 1 of his own attacks?
@@anannoyingweeb359Exactly
@@anannoyingweeb359 yeah pretty much
Have always loved Gyarados, had to try this deck, and agree it felt very strong.
Been loving the content. And I appreciate you giving us high level battles. From both you and your opponents. I’ve been watching a lot of battles and some of the showcases of decks I’ve seen haven’t really been against “good players” so again, appreciate all that you’re doing. Keep up the good work. Hope to see this channel grow more. Much love
I just built this deck yesterday. I went through a similar process of deck building that you were describing. I think I watched your video yesterday about a bunch of deck lists and I saw this variant and thought that the greninja drudigon looked interesting. Yeah I have to say this feels like the best way to play the deck so far. I actually do well against Celebi and can get a win streak going.
Nooooo, the secret's out, now everyone knows Gyarados is cracked.
Glad to see more and more people starting to appreciate Druddigon 🎉 best wall
I knew I wasn’t crazy that my drudigon gyarados was performing better than the alternative.
i remember my friend saying that vaporeon was a noob trap in gyara and the deck is better without it. He was right
I needed to stop playong today. I had 7 games in a row where I did not draw a single Professor's research. I had to check to make sure I had them in the deck. Turns I did but was extremely unlucky and playing behind in card draw everynone of those games.
Ive been tearing these decks up 100% with Mewtwo Gard
Hey what recommendations do you have to start streaming this game? What apps do you use?
I did this deck soon as the pack comes out, nice to see how strong it is (My version changes the Druggigon for Taurus, TaurusEX)
Bro first move of the video: using leaf on magikarp after attaching on him. Just read the card 😅 btw lovely matches ☺️
This deck seems fun to play, not sure how consistent it will be against a mewtwo deck but fun decks are what makes this game interesting to me anyway
Better than you think, actually. I've been playing this, and it's really solid.
If the mewtwo deck doesn’t get gardavoir up asap AND you get greninja up then you can call it a win. Gets tough when you don’t get ninja up
Is drug just there to tank and not attack, then? Do you just put water energy only?
9:00 It’s not just 80%, it’s 94%
Thoughts on Dragonite + Mew ex + Druddigon? I've been losing with it due to abysmal luck and my lack of awareness (DO NOT try to Genome Hack a Pika lmao), but I do think it's a better version of Dragonite.
5:17 why did you just use Magikarp attack & save yourself the leaf?
Thought the same
Gyara evo
I’ve been running Gary/drud and they are a strong combo. I’ll try running the greninja line and see how it goes
greninja since it came out has been my favorite card always been able tp break through the meta glad to see it get even bigger, also first here!!!!!!!
"Undead is a bit of a FREAK" damn bro calling me out like that -undead
Do you remove the fire energy?
I’d like to know that, too.
Druddigon doesn't need to attack its just a decoy, its ability acts like a attack, so fire energy is not needed here.
19:39
Undead mentioned!
Damn this deck looks so clean, I just need 2 gyarados ex now.
Damn I was using the the gyarad, vaporeon, and 1 Articuno and was 8/10.
But I think you need to bring the right item and trainer cards
I’ve been using gyarados with starmie and vap.. gonna try this one
I really dislike playing stage 1 and stage 2 lines in the same deck with no way to tutor for evolutions just makes the deck really inconsistent, more often than not you just end up bricking all your evolutions and literally nothing u can do about it, it's really the worst feeling...
I've been having way more success with a 2-2 starmie and vaporeon line instead, starmie allows u to pressure decks like celebi early and vap lets u pivot out starmie to gyarados to clean up, the only problem is u run 3 stage 1s and no high hp basic as your opener so u might lose tempo to some really fast pokemon that can swing on turn 1 like exegg ex
Can you add where you find the tournaments results in the description?
What in the world are you talking about at the very beginning of that first game? Why would you waste your Leaf instead of using Magikarp's Leap Out? At first I thought you were talking about putting energy on the Druddigon, but no.
Let's him put gyarados on the bench turn 1. Leap out ends the turn and his karp can get one-shot to sabrina. Gyara Vs Sabrina has Misty outs.
@qwertyfinger Gotcha, that makes sense, but he never once mentioned Gyarados, and I didn't realize he evolved that turn.
@@carstan62 yeah he didn't explain the thought process well tbf and I only figured it out in retrospect but I think the play is fine. Kind of a tricky spot.
why my gyarados ex discard energy when I attack but in your video your gyarados ex didn’t discard any energy when you attack
Because it's random, it picks a random pokemon on the field to discard an energy from. Kind of like a roulette.
5:19 Leaf could have been saved, the magikarp ability alllows you to retreat for free and save energy
I was thinking this. You just put the energy on magikarp, swap out with druddion and then evolve into Gyarados
That would have been an attack so we could not evolve into gya
He wanted to be able to evolve in case he got sabrina’d and the opponent got an attack off on the 30hp karp.
😂😂 I actually made a misplay by doing that earlier today. This brother used that Leaf appropriately
@@cquez14 oh yeah you’re right. I had a feeling I was wrong haha
Anyone can explain to me the effect of LeviatorEx's attack? It says I should lose energy but I don't? But sometimes I think I do? It's weird, I'm probably missing something
It removes an energy at random, either from your team or your opponent’s
@Mitrofang oh ok thank you
@14:35 even without the misplay, you would have needed to top deck Leaf to survive. Otherwise Druddigon would just get two shot by the Exeggutor. That’s why I run Mew ex + Budding Expeditioner in my Gyarados deck. Between Leaf, Budding, Misty heads + attach for turn to Mew, X-Speed, or Research drawing X-Speed, you have plenty of ways to retreat Mew after your opponent plays Sabrina.
So true actually
Mew Ex is less good as stall than drudigon because it gives two trophies. Also, mew ex gets one shot by the three most played meta decks (mewtwo, celebi and venipede)
9:05 20% chance? It should be a 1/16 chance (6.25%)
Is there something Im missing?
nah, he doesnt really understand the math behind it, it is a 1/16 chance
Wait if you use leap out it won’t burn the energy right? So you didn’t need to leaf on that first match. At least that’s how it works with Abra’s teleport he keep his energy idk if it’s different with magikarp
I wanted to evolve the magikarp to avoid it getting KOd with a sabrina play! So I couldn’t leap out
@ no at 5:10 you attached to magikarp and used leaf instead of just leaping out and switching to drud. In the video you said you did that to preserved the attachment so do you lose it? I thought it worked the same as abra’s teleport
Oh wait I get it cuz if you attacked your turn would end haha my bad. Thanks for the explanation loving the videos brotha!
7:45 I feel like they should've not attack with that exegutor for at least 2 turns then keep attaching with celebi for higher chance of one shotting Gyarados.
Kinda misplay there a bit.
I did this vs a fighting deck earlier. He had his golem set up which would revenge my egg so I just set up celebi and victrebell. Brought in victreebell as its only 1 prize and could KO his weakened drud and my celebi was in position to take golem if he took victreebell. Instead he went a weaker option and I picked off a Benched geodude b4 he committed golem and ggs
I don't have Starmie EX or Gyarados EX. Been using Kingler with new vaporeon. Coin-flips are intense especially playing against Celebi EX lol.
30:25 retreat mewtwo -> kill with mew -> kill with sabrina and mewtwo?
P.S. pretty sure opponent isn't playing sabrina bc of xspeed, slab and likely gio
I've been using vaporeon starmie and a 1,1 line for Garados EX and been having a ton of luck. Usally super easy to get into a starmie and and passively set up the gyarados if you draw into it. This deck being highlighted just seems like a weaker version of drudegon greninja decks compared to other variants
I haven’t lost with drudd gren Gyar yet
yeah I faced this deck with an annoying tentacruel /omastar deck the greninja is pretty annoying. it was a game of attrition I lost
4 heads on 4 coins is 6,25% not 20%
Can you update the discord link?
I'm playing the poor man's version with Tentacruel instead of Gyarados
Here before the typo in the title is fixed
Only reason I lost to this deck was Misty rolled 5 🙄😅 Best card in this game easy.
24:10 I hear a Fur Baby
gyrados + greninja can 1 shot even Charizard. the only stage pokemon you cant OHKO with this deck is Venusaur EX with 190 HP
This deck is the one I used to finish my 45 wins emblem event.
Best way I've found is with Omastar. But let's watch your video n see
5:10 he make a mistake... He don't even need to use leaf to return Magikarp to switch Pokemon... He just wasted the trainer card. Magikarp 1 energy can just literally switch Magikarp to 1 of our Pokemon on the bench. Someone don't even read the card....
If you watch the play. He evolves after. You can not do that if you leap out because it ends the turn.
if he leaped out he wouldn't be able to evolve magicarp. makes sense since exeggutor will one shot magicarp if the opponent sabrina him
He can just freaking leak out with 1 energy for magikarp there no point of using leaf is wasting it. Plus the new exeggcutor need 4 energy to use his attack and he didnt even think of that and use leaf? His opponent exeggcute only 2 energy cant do anything if it evolve to exeggcutor...
@@yongming929 are you an idiot or something 🤦♂️?? There are 2 kinds of exeggutor one is ex and the new one. He is playing safe cause the opponent might have an EX which deals 40 damage which will kill magicarp and brick the deck.
@@yongming929he's playing around Sabrina. He doesn't know which exeggutor the opponent is running. If he leaps out, he can't evolve karp and he dies to egg ex and Sabrina. If he regular retreats he's an energy behind on the 4 energy attack. If he stays in he dies to egg ex. You're being pretty arrogant and condescending for no real reason. The leaf play is fine because it means that opponent can never one-shot the karp, and he still has outs with Misty.
Gyarados Chatot?
i don't really see the point of greninja in this deck
It picks off things you can’t quit kill with Gyarados, it’s just a really good card on its own and the deck has room for it.
@@grasthube Sniping. Some meta decks have high hp's. It really synergizes with the deck.
Man i want to run a good deck, BUT GRENINJA JUST STEALS ALLL THE SPOTLIGHT 😂 need moar cards
the only reason i can think of why venomonpede is used instead of muk is the retreat cost. because muk is only a stage 1 but is also 3 retreat.
Scolipede has 10 more hp, attack cost one energy less, and retreat is one less. Being more energy efficient is huge in terms of attacking quickly and the retreating + koga combo
Your math and probabilities ain't mathing darling
Yea this deck is bad into celebi which is like 99% of players atm lol
It is nice Deck！th-cam.com/video/PE0kReWJMSA/w-d-xo.html
Trash lmao
coin flips are not 50/50 btw, its proven already
Yeah, own coinflips are 20/80, enemy flips are 80/20
Proven by whom? You can’t expect us to trust a TH-cam comment.
@@CopelandPlaysTH-cam comment is absolute.