Rhythm Gamer reviews VS RetroSpecter Mod Part 1 | Friday Night Funkin' Mod Chart
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- Trying RetroSpecter part 1 mod! I accidentally played the hard difficulty during my live stream. So at the end of the playthrough, I have a small review section of the Hell difficulties.
Very long video for a mod that's much shorter than this...
RetroSpecter Mod | gamebanana.com/mods/317366
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction and settings
00:50 - Satisfracture
03:43 - Spectral
07:17 - Retro
09:27 - Ectospasm attempts and thoughts
12:07 - Ectospasm
15:46 - Secret song (Fuzzy Feeling)
19:10 - Hell difficulties review
25:44 - Ending thoughts
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Thanks for watching! - เกม
Tokaku: "You know, if they start moving the screen while-"
Retro: "YOU WERE SAYING!?"
"Lmao get gud" - retro probably
Lol
5:48
EDIT: Seems that default notespeed fixes the lamp bug. Ouch. Hope the scrollspeed bug gets fixed. Being forced to play a super high scroll speed isn't fun... Mod charts don't have such high scroll speeds but "high scroll speed = difficulty" is a friday night funkin mod thing I suppose...
(I know you guys don't like fnf too much but I'm actually taking a break right now I'm really burnt out :c
These videos on the mods is what I'm leaving here while I take a 2 week break (that's why no subtitles, not too much effort put))
All in all, I did find the retrospecter mod enjoyable and very very nice to look at. I think I prefer the way this mod looks over the tricky mod and the gimmicks were way more fun. Although the tricky mod's mines were executed better and the charting for tricky was better as well. But hey, I don't really feel good saying 'this bad that bad'. I'm sure the focus of this mod is on the story, art and gimmicks moreso than 'charting quality' per se. Plus, fnf is still a very new community so they haven't found their own charting meta (or overarching style) yet.
Also, another disclaimer is that my opinion and etc isn't be all end all about mods or chart or games. You can feel how you want about them!
Take care you deserve it
try to do ectospasm on true hell mode just die seven times on hell mode then you get true hell mode
take as much rest as u need mate!
take care of yourself tokaku !! :D
@Suddenly SHUT UP
Hello! Modcharter for the mod here! Thanks for checking out V.S RetroSpecter, we're very glad you liked the mod! ^^
I'll report that lamp bug. (Which by the by, those are called Spectral notes, just so you know. ^^) Seems to be a bit messy, lol.
Thank you very much for the honest criticism and I'm super glad you liked the modcharts! Funny you mention NotITG, TaroNuke is one of my biggest inspirations, so I'm super glad I could make something fun with the limited api FNF uses. :)
Thank you once again!
TaroNuke is a god, you did great with the effects!
I wanted to make a mod with mod charts but I gotta know how to code rip
you’re such a sussy baka
Yo
Snow The Fox
You're sus
i like the little text box when you use rhythm game terms that explains what it is, helps newer rhythm gamers so that people can actually understand what i’m saying LOL
The text box was very useful and made me realize I've been using the term doubles wrong lol
there are some fnf mods with pretty fun charts, not all of them might be difficult though. the funnest and most difficult chart ive seen is bushwack in zardy’s mod. the absolute most difficult non gimmicky chart ive seen is ghost in the camellia mod.
I am not surprised Ghost was mentioned there given iirc that one was charted to specifically be like other 4key games. Most of Camellia Mods stuff was. Bushwhack/Foolhardy are imo very fun but very hard.
I kinda agree with her on slipping a single in a chord progression where a chord jack would have felt more fitting while keeping the speed. It's unique but it's awkward on the fingers albeit I personally have not gone for hard songs since I was doing Stepmania charts in high school.
Some of the charts have been made by etterna players used to chartibf
qt's termination was harder and still fun in my own opinion but yeah bushwacker is pretty difficult and fun
@@ohgodoh-825 I think termination is harder too
For me termination is kinda spam imo.
The vision notes hitbox is very heavily affected by the note speed and the note Quantinization for some odd reason, so it's hitbox appears like, a foot in front of its visual for some reason when you mess with those. Seems to affect the poison notes hitboxes too if only slightly (It's like some cruel punishment for messing with things that most Rhythm gamers normally use, hopefully that gets fixed in a later version of this mod)
It's okay if you take a break tokaku, we will still be here.
I've never seen or played the RetroSpecter mod but it looks very interesting! I noticed that FNF mod makers put a lot of effort into customizing the UI and gameplay. It makes the mod look very enjoyable.
Great video as always!
vs retro has to be one of the hardest fnf mods so far
There is also different dialogue for every character combination.
Yes
Ive always been a fan of RetroSpecter and I was really happy when the mod came out
Retro never misses as always
yes but still many osu! players i saw hate fnf because it is popular (not all of them)
Singaporean watcher here. It's rare to find a singaporean content creator that isnt immediate cringe or just bad so I'd rather just watch the oversea content creators but your content is actually pretty nice.
As a non-rhythm gamer (though I do still like some of them), I just want to say that I really appreciate how you edit in explanations (and visuals) for the terms that you use. Saves me from having to look them up, and I can actually follow along with what you're saying, so thanks for that!
the fnf community is improving with the days and it really puts a smile on me for seeing that it's getting more likely to competitive rhythm gamers.
there were 3 mods which i enjoyed the chart: Retrospecter, Night of the funky bot and Camellia.
Try zardy newest updated song, bushwack, its charting is cool
@@wellshit7840 i just heard of it, i'll try it soon
@@deception845 if youre looking for more good charted songs you should try the sonic.exe mod, its a little spooky but it is definitely worth trying
@@wellshit7840 will also take a look, it brings some nostalgia hearing "sonic.exe" again
I am getting so ecstatic that even competitive rhythm game players are enjoying fnf. The game was super harshly bashed which was understandable but still kinda hurt. I hope y’all can enjoy the game as much as we do!
This is probably the only time I’ve ever seen the Ghost Note (from the 1st secret song) actually become a bit buggy, compared to other people where the note was fine for them.
True
Maybe it's the note quantization?
From what I've seen, the ghost note hitbox (dont know if thats the right word) seems off center if you use downscroll, and you have to hit it earlier than usual
@@ninjamaster9094 I've never seen this mod played upscroll
@@squiddu it's not note quantization causing it... I asked tzechi to try the mod the next day and he didn't have it on but had the same issue. I also tried the mod with default speed on stream but the note still needed to be hit early (although not AS early as before)
i love how you analysed the hell mode charting
great for mappers to learn from
Good thing the mod is still a demo, so charting can be improved. One part that confuses me is that when you played ectospasm, something ocurred. The Spectre notes were not working right, the image of the arrows coming down like nothing was wrong in the song but having to hit them very early. First time seeing this happen to someone and I watched a lot of people play that same mod and not have this happen to them. I wonder what caused that to happen.
It also happens when you turn on "Color By Quantation" which mess with the special note sprite offsets.
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@@Rev525 nice try
@@Rev525 jokes on you, I memorized the link
@@Rev525 why is this your only comment
Ectospasm has a secret difficulty for loosing 7 times in a row. Trust me, its REALLY hard (only effects 7th attempt, to retry, u gotta restart the game)
True Hell; I did not realize the Lamp Notes required being hit early and would delay if hit on time, or is that the Kade Engine lagging because the Retro Mod is pretty intense. Also I heard Retro say on a stream that there will be an achievement for FC 100% Accuracy on Ectospasm Hell Mode.
Hey nice cat game pfp!
@@voidtalongaming4637 it's not being hit early because the scroll speed are too slow that's why
@@voidtalongaming4637 Nah, I'd say that FNF is just very poorly optimised in general. The issues Tokaku faced in Fuzzy Feeling are things I've encountered in literally every mod I've played and even the vanilla game.
@@Jono997 You mean the massive clusterlag?
Retrospecter: "ENOUGH!"
Me: "Oh, so you get mad quickly? I'm gonna play this mod.
I mean, he's literally wrath
I appreciated the little boxes describing rhythm game terms, etc a lot! It really helps me understand what you are talking about :)
I once again appreciate the heck out of the little descriptions for the technical rhythm game terms you use.
yoo i suggested this mod in the community post! I never thought this mod would have been the one picked out of the many extremely well made mods out there.
I feel like the only time where a chord then a single note is acceptable is when the player can have two hands one one button or do cross hands like on a mobile rhythm game, a drum instrument game, chunthim or SDVX as you can do a “one two” like that.
Or when the song has the character harmonize with themselves (trust me, it happens).
I think you missed True Hell, if you die 7 times on Ectospasm then you play True Hell for one attempt, you die again and it goes back to normal hell
23:28 The other chart I remember doing that is some of the project diva extreme and ex extreme song. Though that feel like an unfair comparison cause the way you play project diva and FNF is really different
yes diva's charting allows that because of the ability to bind macros for game pad controllers, and for arcade, players use one hand to hit two buttons at once so it's not as weird (same with sound voltex). But you very rarely ever see that chord pattern with one extra note right after it. I've never seen it. I imagine most charters don't do it because that pattern doesn't fit songs and is uncomfortable and not very nice to look at
I love How you always put some notes saying what are the things you're talking about, I'm actually learning new things. Thx!
"Dude if they start moving the screen while-"
Top 10 last words said before disaster
(btw i'm malaysian)
Hello Malaysian I'm Aaron 😁
@@aaronisaacramos2502 hi......
The ability to speak easily while doing intensive charts shows how skilled you are.
If tokaku ever uploads a fnf mod, its always a good one
the explanations on the sides for the game terminology is a nice touch. love the video!
The reason everything feels broken is because the scroll speed isn’t what it’s supposed to be, it should be on its original setting.
I tried the original scroll speed on the stream as well but I still needed to hit early >_> color quantization wasn't the issue either since I ask tzechi to try it the next day and he didn't have it on but it still needed to be hit early
It was like 1.6-2.0 or something and Spectral is originally at *3.0* (on hell)
Normal that some things can feel awkward when you reduce the speed by a lot...
@@TBiscuit1 i dont get why fnf mod makers like to make a chart that has actual doable charting then put an inhuman speed. its not even fun and it just takes away the whole "scrollspeed being a preference" thing
@@jayvan_ but ive seen people lowering the scroll speed and everything was ok, i dont know why it happened to tokaku
@@tokaku Oh, well I’ve never had this problem with normal scroll speed.
YES! I wanted to watch you play this. Love your vids Tokaku.
Yay it’s original and the charts are not bad so I consider this one of the best mods.
except those blue arrows
@@Wmann yep, but still
@@boowomp441 that's because she's playing on a slower scroll speed bugging the notes,if she played it normally it would be fine
@@cianwalsh7042 oh
It has more samples than original pieces of music, the character design of Retro is inconsistent with what he is and how he acts, the story is inconsistent, and the difficulty is unnecessary in more ways than one. This is actually one of the worst for me.
Since my laptop barely handles my browser I only can say that songs are all bangers, thank you for coming to my ted talk
This video was really informative!
It’s nice to see good valid criticisms and solid suggestions over hate comments... the charting in the mod has been a controversial topic within the people that have played it. So it’s really refreshing seeing someone that I’ve been watching for months play it and give it a solid review.
Great video as always tokatu!
I didn't think I'd like the speeding since I'd gotten so used to the jump cuts, but I actually preferred the way you edited it here because you did it so well.
Funnily enough, I experienced the very same blue note lantern problem as you, contrary to what many of the comments are saying. I even had the default settings on.
All in all, I really enjoyed watching this video and I agree with a lot of your points about the charting. Hard had fine charting, and for the most part Hell did as well, but there were just these 1 or 2 moments that felt awkward to play (Spectrum specifically on Hell mode and Ectospasm). Considering this is just a demo mode and it already looks very promising, I hope Retrospecter and the mod team find this video and take your criticisms to improve upon the gameplay because there is a lot of potential here and I'm looking forward to it. By proxy of the above mentioned, I hope this video gets a lot of views and a lot of people see it, what you said is very interesting and true stuff that mappers should keep in mind when making charts.
You put alot of effort into your videos I respect that...
Have a good Wednesday
Love when you post cause your the only rhythm gamer I really watch 😁
Well, i’m actually singaporean and i enjoy your videos :) it’s a stressful period for me cuz of my psle but ur videos really help to loosen me up. so keep up with the good content!
Am Singaporean, and I love this content. I only started playing arcea because I watch this channel. Please keep making videos!
I just noticed the only way i get interested in one mod is if tokaku makes a video out of it, thx this one is sick
Finally a quiet video i can hear at 11:24 pm on a thursday
I love your content keep up the good work 👍
YESSSSSSS IVE BEEN WAITING
Finally something to watch
tokaku is the first rhythm gamer I've seen with a gateron keyboard, most that i watch use cherry, glad im not alone in the world
Amazing mod showcaseeeeee
17:23
That part reminds me so much of an undertale song... Like, when you are almost getting out of the underground, you know? On that weird place where the elevator doesn't work
Love the edits in in the left
You should try the Dusttale mod it's really good but very hard,the things in this mod:10 whole songs, animated cutscenes, lore, new mechanics, 2 different endings and much more
it's not really good, the engine is very buggy and chart could be definetly better at some parts, also playing 5 songs a second time with no changes just for 2 bonus songs is very annoying and there are too much megalovania/dusttale theme references, like in almost every song and i can't hear it anymore. and opzimization does not work, it changes nothing which is really bad because some songs are really laggy and unplayable with a bad computer. but animations and the art stile are really really good
actually killing it
Retro should check out this video, to improve his mod further, this mod is phenomenal imo and with the flaws out the way it would be insane
I really like your retro mode gameplay! P.s. im singaporean
Alright, this’ll be interesting.
Now I wanna download this mod and play it for myself!
it would be cool to see the QT mod covered like this, i'd like to see her opinion on the double spams in Censory-Overload and Termination
nice video I just subscribed
For the 2-1-2 chords you mentioned in hell difficulty I’ve seen it go DF F FJ (and then some) but never DF F DF, yeah. I’m personally not a fan of the gameplay choices this mod made (I’m already fatigued with bomb/poison notes in FNF mods, they’re used as an artificial difficulty now. I appreciate that they’re trying to bring back FNF having gameplay besides just hitting the notes, but they should respect people who prefer no gimmicks by having the option to disable things, much like Vs Ace did.) but I can respect what they have created as pretty cool with some great songs. As more of a slap in the face if you fail Ectospasm a few times Retro even references Ace’s quote from his mode offers to disable the bomb notes and then mocks the player saying it’s “supposed to be hard”
Fun secret, if you die 7 times on Ectospasm you get an even crazier charted version that’s much shorter.
I like the idea of this mod, but if you can’t make a chart hard without a cheesy gimmick, that not my problem.
Side note, anyone using my gameplay from half a year ago to comment on my opinion, I’ve improved so much since that, it’s not representative of my current skill level.
I love that Tokaku is willing to admit sometimes an easier difficulty is more fun to play. I love a challenge but I prefer to have fun while I play a game.
if you feel up for playing more fnf mods, you should try the QT mod!
Agreed! It's really hard given the gimmick
VS qt is really good but the gimmicks are kinda hard to do, but
that's just me
Very nice :o
Your keyboard switches sound better than the song it is so relaxing lmao
I know that with ectospasm, if the scroll speed is changed, the window for hitting the lamp notes gets really wonky. But it’s annoying because original scroll speed ectospasm is barely readable (let alone without opacity). Really fun video!
I tried with the original scroll speed as well and it still needs to be hit early :/
I like how you put boxes up to explain stuff yet don’t leave them up long enough to actually read
people complained about me skipping gameplay so I didn't want to cover gameplay for too long, ah well
Amazing ^^
16:05
" *HE HAS A GIRLFRIEND, WHY YOU HITTING ON HIM* " in ×999 speed
im dying laughing
They need to add retrospective's NoteSkin As an actual noteskin for a mod.
Hope you have a relaxing break! Never be afraid to phone it in for a couple of weeks, especially on stuff that gets more clicks anyways. You gotta take care of yourself before you can make content!
Wow I never heard of this game but it looks so cool
A custom scroll speed kinda messed some stuff up like for example the "vision" notes hitbox is based off of the unchanged chart, note lag aswell
also in general the mod chart engine for this game doesn't like you messing with the scroll speed sadly
kinda sad that you didn't get the best experience did go it
Hope you're looking forward to Part 2 when it does come out considering more deadly sins will be added!
The mods that have been the most fun were zardy, and the Vs. Camellia mod. Vs. Camellia is a definite must play for those good at rhythm games!
Singaporean watcher here:) love your videos
Personally, I don’t mind the jump cuts that get rid of “dead space,” but I guess fnf viewers mind it more because they want to hear the song, and I guess I can understand that if they’re watching a mod review. I sort of watch your videos for you, rather than the content, while I do enjoy both, I’m just here more for a Tokaku video rather than in this case a fnf video. Anyways, to me this video did seem a little long, and I think that cutting more would have fixed that, but again I may be part of the minority who thinks that. Otherwise, I think the video was good. Feedback aside, this break that you’re taking is well deserved, there is no need to push out more than you think you need to. I hope you’re doing well! :)
that's exactly why I cut but the audience here doesn't enjoy that so oh well :(
the keyboard sound is amaizing XD 😆
4:09 Oh boy, I'm getting flashbacks to the ebola notes in the vs /v/ mod
Try "The Blueballs Incident". Its a well rounded package of story, partial hard gameplay, nice art and really cool charting
Honestly, I honestly like how tokaku breaks down certain mechanics, charts and even patters in these videos. To an idiot like me they're really informative. It's really interesting seeing somebody who knows their stuff talk about stuff like this and hearing their opinion on it.
In fact it helps a lot. I used to call jacks streams before tokaku explained in a FNF video.
@@GCAmazingBR yea i used to not know what trills were lol
Honestly I didn't have much of a problem with the charting on hell. I have an unpopular opinion in that I like being pushed out of my comfort zone with charts sometimes, because it helps me build skill. On top of that I found the chart really challenging, and fun since I got to try something new. Though, I still value your opinion, and can see why you thought differently :)
i love all your videos
All the charts are fun but you are right when mods are just sometimes unreadable but easy to play
Listening to the music, the timing of the lanterns are in fact in time with the song itself and not the charting timing. I can see where that can throw someone off big time
Would love to see an updated play through, everything was made like 10x better imo
If I ever make a mod, I would want Tokaku to play test it. She knows what she is talking about.
I've always wanted to make a mod, but i never learned how to chart and i suck at drawing (programming too XD)
You should try the vs QT mod
It has a fun chart and dodging mechanics
It’s only flaw is that you have to play the full week to unlock the final song termination in the freeplay menu.
Fun Fact that the characters (which is the opponent u boutta fight) has one special word in them like Retrospecter has one "Wrath" if u change week its still lock but it does show the characters name and the word there's 7 character in Total in the mod they're still developing and if u pay close attention by the characters word its actually the 7 Deadly Sins word also if u change the boyfriend and girlfriends skin there would be alternate dialounge
Ayo, you should try Friday Night Scratchin'! It's very cool, there's also Dave and Bambi.
Probably Totaku is the only person the posts facts on the screen on something that you might not know about is the best.
Epic
Toaku inspired me to play rhythm games and she still does
I'm Singaporean and watching you right now
Note Quantitization is what caused the lamp notes (and to a lesser extent the acid mines) to have weird hitboxes because the way it works is that it takes the note graphics for the separate lanes and rotates them to match the corresponding lane, but it doesn't account for graphic offsets like having the option off would normally do.
if you want alot more notitg style modchart stuff, try out in the galaxy mod, it's pretty good
singaporean viewer here :D love ur vids!
Play the QT mod, that one you will like due to charting
AY NEW FRIDAY NIGHT FUNKIN!
damn the mod looks awesome
There's a secret difficulty for ectospasm in the game files
Just fail the attempt 7 times
my fave fnf channel
i have learned the whole arrow combinations possible in one video lol
Love it
i believe the lamp notes being off was a bug. they’re fixed in the 1.5 version of the mod!
Singaporean here, good try in the mod btw
I like how the chat for the first part was like
" hotl shot furru art no way **pisses and shits pants** "