I’ve recently(ish) resumed playing after quite some break and I just wanted to say your videos have been exceptionally helpful, especially getting me in a GAC-oriented mindset! Thanks for all your content!
This is great! I am working on getting the finalizer and also working on the chimera fleet. Going to get slkr then executor! Great video thanks so much!
Huh, it's interesting to here your thoughts on this. Where I am I just put a trash fleet on defense and save the rest for offense. If my opponent doesn't have anything but Mace Windu's, Tarkin's, Ackbar's, and Thrawn's I'll be fine, but if not, I lose the match. Great video, keep up the great work!
Regarding strong vs weak fleet defense, it's going to come down to your roster and strategy a lot. I'm in k2/k3 and most of my opponents have at 1-3m more GP than me. Beating them in a ground war is practically impossible most of the time as I can't set a solid defense and also hope to clear, so I play a ship gambit most of the time with strong fleets on defense planning to get holds there and ideally prevent a full clear completely. I'm probably an exception as I've worked a lot on my ships and have pretty much every ship farmed, but it's definitely a way to punch up if you build your roster that way.
I do the same thing! K4 here and my ground defense is almost complete trash since I try to full clear each time and hope my opponent can't clear my fleets. Best way to beat accounts that are way ahead in GP. It's important to know of the off-meta counters for exec/prof though with finalizer/empire
I would love a video on the executrix vs. profundity counter. I have not been able to get it to work recently. Also, interesting to hear you struggle with Chimera vs. Executor, but win executrix vs. profundity. For me its the exact opposite way
@@songeta Hmm. I have Iden at R7, so that might do it. I have even begun to run Vader and tie without a third unit in the start for about three months in both GAC(K2) and TW(350M). Only failed once because I called interceptor too early and got stuck on slave1. I do this both against HT lineups and triple attacker. Thanks to you, I did some more research on the prof counter and got it to work in fleet arena. I couldnt find one with the phoenix ships, but im still feeling confident. Gonna try it this 3v3 and will see what happens
@@songeta i mean I have pretty high win rates but I don’t think it’s a core fleet im just saying don’t sleep on it just cause it’s not part of the core 6
I dont know if thats generally known but a R7 Holdo is really good for a 2 shot on Levi. You get the ult off in 99% of the cases from what I've heard (vs 7* Levi)
@@songeta the next day he puts timestamps to watch only the parts he battles if you think their long and don't have time. I watch them whenever I can and I'm doing so since 2018
Great vid Songeta! Levi definitely mixed up the fleet meta and strategy so it's really cool to hear your thought process on it. I won't have Levi for a while, so I'm working on my empire fleets to be able to take out Prof/Exec. My guild mates have been telling me that I can split up the empire/sith ships to counter both Exec and Prof so I can set my GL fleets on defense, so that's what I'm working towards.
You can split your Empire to be more efficient on offense. Chimera with Vader, TIE, and Reaper with Defender and Intercepter can beat Exec. Tarkin, Palp, Scythe, and Gauntlet with Bomber can beat Profundity. The Defender isn’t really dicey it will just dodge until the end of time
I just got executor but I don't have syth or interceptor. I got relic first order. I used to set Mal and chimera on def. But now I feel like if I could put executor and chimera on def. It be really hard for my bracket to clear. Only I don't know if I could clear everything with neg and Mal. Does Mal counter executor? I know it can be pretty reliable for profundity.
Mal does not counter Executor very clean, you need Tie Fighter and even then you can't really beat a triple attacker lineup. First order is tough, but can beat Exec
So I'm in a guild that cannot do krayt dragon or anything, but I earned my realized something. You can't get GET2 anymore I think, and you can't get malevolence or negotiator with the new currencies. Unless I'm missing something, isn't it impossible to get those two fleets now?
Long term, is Chimaera worth it? Seems like with Scythe the Trixie is better: I have Thrawn at sad gear and the ship at7* with basically no abilities upgraded.
Absolutely! Chimaera is a beast in it's own right, Executrix has specialized counters to it. You can actually beat executor and profundity with an chimaera and executrix fleet in the same match, but I find the Executor battle a tad sketchy
I currently have terrible fleets. I stopped playing before Malevolence/Negotiatior and came back after Executor/Profundity and my fleets weren't great even then. I now have Executor unlock in my sights and it will get me crystals in my fleet shard even at 4 stars. It looks like a lot of my shard also quit at some point 😂
I feel like in high aurodium and low kyber most people don’t have a full executrix fleet, would profundity be more valuable on defense against lower ranks?
@songeta that's how I've managed to hang around aurudium 2 with no GLs and 5 million gp...r9 exec triple attacker and r8 negotiator with r5 to r7 pilots on defence my ground units are all g8 or g10 garbage I just go full offence and hope ships hold and it works more often than not
I‘m forced to go full defense on fleets as I have only 2 gls to try to compete in kyber 3. I need every good ground team I have on offense (no sense on setting any of them on defense vs opponents with 3-5 offensive gls) so my only strategy is hoping they suck on fleets or on efficiency and I have to off meta fleets on offense
Usually I‘m left with chimera (for negotiator, ackbar or holdo), finalizer (for executor, empire, ackbar or holdo) and malevolence (for profundity, executor, empire or holdo)
Brutal defense is my favorite. Love the video!
I’ve recently(ish) resumed playing after quite some break and I just wanted to say your videos have been exceptionally helpful, especially getting me in a GAC-oriented mindset! Thanks for all your content!
Love to hear that! Thanks so much!
No I will not get my fleets in order!
😂
So principled haha
So uncivilised...
Seconded
This is great! I am working on getting the finalizer and also working on the chimera fleet. Going to get slkr then executor! Great video thanks so much!
Why dont u get executor first so u can start earing crystals from arena and invest those crystals into slkr requirments
Great video my friend, was looking for this as I am finally ready to unlock leviathan in few days now.
Huh, it's interesting to here your thoughts on this. Where I am I just put a trash fleet on defense and save the rest for offense. If my opponent doesn't have anything but Mace Windu's, Tarkin's, Ackbar's, and Thrawn's I'll be fine, but if not, I lose the match. Great video, keep up the great work!
I use malevolence on offence a lot and it usually gets more banners than my negotiator since I usually underdog it with malevolence
That's true, underdogging can help - I never see anything I'd be able to do that against personally though
Regarding strong vs weak fleet defense, it's going to come down to your roster and strategy a lot. I'm in k2/k3 and most of my opponents have at 1-3m more GP than me. Beating them in a ground war is practically impossible most of the time as I can't set a solid defense and also hope to clear, so I play a ship gambit most of the time with strong fleets on defense planning to get holds there and ideally prevent a full clear completely. I'm probably an exception as I've worked a lot on my ships and have pretty much every ship farmed, but it's definitely a way to punch up if you build your roster that way.
I do the same thing! K4 here and my ground defense is almost complete trash since I try to full clear each time and hope my opponent can't clear my fleets. Best way to beat accounts that are way ahead in GP. It's important to know of the off-meta counters for exec/prof though with finalizer/empire
Yeah someone else said something similar - you're definitely punching up then and fleets might be your only shot, even if you get an ugly clear
I would love a video on the executrix vs. profundity counter. I have not been able to get it to work recently. Also, interesting to hear you struggle with Chimera vs. Executor, but win executrix vs. profundity. For me its the exact opposite way
I used to do Chimaera vs Executor pretty easily, but without a tank in there it doesn't seem to work well. Executrix vs. Profundity is amazing though
@@songeta Hmm. I have Iden at R7, so that might do it. I have even begun to run Vader and tie without a third unit in the start for about three months in both GAC(K2) and TW(350M). Only failed once because I called interceptor too early and got stuck on slave1. I do this both against HT lineups and triple attacker.
Thanks to you, I did some more research on the prof counter and got it to work in fleet arena. I couldnt find one with the phoenix ships, but im still feeling confident. Gonna try it this 3v3 and will see what happens
Don’t sleep on finalizer it’s a great exec counter
It's nowhere near a sure thing though
@@songeta i mean I have pretty high win rates but I don’t think it’s a core fleet im just saying don’t sleep on it just cause it’s not part of the core 6
@@songetait's pretty reliable, only when you hit really bad luck it falls apart. But then you can two shot it most of the time
I know there’s not a lot of reason to cover ships but some of us love SWGOH because of ships. Thanks for the coverage.
Happy to know some want it!
I think in Aurodium Negotiator and Executor are the best defenses, saving Chimaera, Malevolence and the other scrap for offense.
Thats exactly what I use. I am in Aurodium 3
That’s my goal 😂 , but i m stuck spending get 2 on kyros for inquisitors atm😢
Yeah with 2 fleet defenses, that seems like the way to go!
Thank you so much for doing the video on this
Happy to!
Can I ask you what variance of the executor is the best on defense? Like what should the starting line up be from the bounty hunters?
I dont know if thats generally known but a R7 Holdo is really good for a 2 shot on Levi.
You get the ult off in 99% of the cases from what I've heard (vs 7* Levi)
Didn't know that! I've never been a big fan of 2-shots personally, but could come in handy in a pinch
@@songetayou should watch more Ahnald 😂
@@DTGeorge his streams are too dang long
@@songeta the next day he puts timestamps to watch only the parts he battles if you think their long and don't have time. I watch them whenever I can and I'm doing so since 2018
Great vid Songeta! Levi definitely mixed up the fleet meta and strategy so it's really cool to hear your thought process on it. I won't have Levi for a while, so I'm working on my empire fleets to be able to take out Prof/Exec. My guild mates have been telling me that I can split up the empire/sith ships to counter both Exec and Prof so I can set my GL fleets on defense, so that's what I'm working towards.
Thanks Yuki! Yeah people seem to like Chimaera vs. Executor even without a tank, but it doesn't feel safe to me
Thanks
You can split your Empire to be more efficient on offense. Chimera with Vader, TIE, and Reaper with Defender and Intercepter can beat Exec. Tarkin, Palp, Scythe, and Gauntlet with Bomber can beat Profundity. The Defender isn’t really dicey it will just dodge until the end of time
That Chimaera team vs. Executor is pretty bad banners if you're going for full efficiency
question: is it better to put HT in starting line up or reinforcement for executor defense?
For defense, reinforcement for sure I think
@@songeta thanks for the advice
I just got executor but I don't have syth or interceptor. I got relic first order. I used to set Mal and chimera on def. But now I feel like if I could put executor and chimera on def. It be really hard for my bracket to clear. Only I don't know if I could clear everything with neg and Mal. Does Mal counter executor? I know it can be pretty reliable for profundity.
Mal does not counter Executor very clean, you need Tie Fighter and even then you can't really beat a triple attacker lineup. First order is tough, but can beat Exec
i dont have any of the meta fleets but I got the chimaera and i'm trying to make said super empire fleet to get me up higher in fleet arena
So I'm in a guild that cannot do krayt dragon or anything, but I earned my realized something. You can't get GET2 anymore I think, and you can't get malevolence or negotiator with the new currencies. Unless I'm missing something, isn't it impossible to get those two fleets now?
Territory Battles, my man!
Yea and you better spend all of it on those until you have them finished because they are some of the best early ships you can have
Long term, is Chimaera worth it? Seems like with Scythe the Trixie is better: I have Thrawn at sad gear and the ship at7* with basically no abilities upgraded.
Absolutely! Chimaera is a beast in it's own right, Executrix has specialized counters to it. You can actually beat executor and profundity with an chimaera and executrix fleet in the same match, but I find the Executor battle a tad sketchy
I used to buy negotiater shards with get 2 but I stopped to focus on gear and I'm thinking of skipping straight to executor
Dumb idea you don't spend get2 on gear till your Mal and neg are 7 stars
You still need to finish off Negotiator and Malevolence! My Goodness!
Is it OK to start using get2 for Kairos after I unlock negotiator and malevolence at five stars?
Noooo - finish those off. Way better use of the currency
Negotiator is a very reliable triple attacker counter if your Plo is relic’d
Doesn’t it need to be like R8 though?
@@songeta for top end executor fleets yes
NICE VIDEO MAN
Thanks man!
I currently have terrible fleets. I stopped playing before Malevolence/Negotiatior and came back after Executor/Profundity and my fleets weren't great even then. I now have Executor unlock in my sights and it will get me crystals in my fleet shard even at 4 stars. It looks like a lot of my shard also quit at some point 😂
Hey, an inactive fleet shard is your best friend!
my goat
I feel like in high aurodium and low kyber most people don’t have a full executrix fleet, would profundity be more valuable on defense against lower ranks?
Yeah definitely, makes it way more expensive
It’s 2 fleets in arodium, could change bc if all these fleets and I have like 8 fleets
Wow, not too much to manage there then!
@songeta that's how I've managed to hang around aurudium 2 with no GLs and 5 million gp...r9 exec triple attacker and r8 negotiator with r5 to r7 pilots on defence my ground units are all g8 or g10 garbage
I just go full offence and hope ships hold and it works more often than not
@@nancyturner217 that’s a first I’ve heard, I have those and a GL and it’s tough to stay on top of people with more gls than me
If my opponent doesn’t have Profundity, then Leviathan is a good choice for defense?
Probably!
I‘m forced to go full defense on fleets as I have only 2 gls to try to compete in kyber 3. I need every good ground team I have on offense (no sense on setting any of them on defense vs opponents with 3-5 offensive gls) so my only strategy is hoping they suck on fleets or on efficiency and I have to off meta fleets on offense
Usually I‘m left with chimera (for negotiator, ackbar or holdo), finalizer (for executor, empire, ackbar or holdo) and malevolence (for profundity, executor, empire or holdo)
That makes sense given that situation! People must hate when they lose to you on fleets haha
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