Thank god I hated scouring through all the vod channel stuff just so I can find a single bit from freax that I thought was funny. Having these as their own thing is gonna be so nice
I don't think the comic had too many words but I can see the argument that shorter & snappier is better. Not to mention the idea is kind of overdone. "Pro/Anti ideology product selling because people are pro/anti ideology" is not new.
What Kendrick Lamar really has to teach everyone is how valuable staying on-message at all times is. It matters more than having multiple valid points. You stay on message, you get your results.
is there any way to upload the full vod before the Freaks clip video? feels wrong to watch without the train. i understand that the freaks video on its own will do great for the numbers, as it really is a huge display of what makes MBT so fun and charismatic, but i think train + freaks is too good of a combo to seperate
10:00 This whole drama is funny to me because the actual point he was trying to get at is entirely valid, but some people are just so imminently hatable that at a certain point their actual opinion stops mattering. We all have a couple Basils in our life.
lmao at the book section, that is exactly the shit my mom reads. It’s very funny how that works. I’ll talk to her about sci fi shit i’m reading and she’ll be like “oh that’s exactly like this book i was reading, alien fuckers 12” and i’m like yeah i’m sure that’s exactly the same lol
MBT and peeps are just wrong about the comic thing. Peeps is saying the other person shouldnt have a criticism because the criticism is just wrong and disingenuous. Im going to assume he misused disingenuous and meant a different word so ill ignore that because i cant possibly see how that has anything to do with this, but he LITERALLY PROVES HIMSELF WRONG in the same conversation by mentioning the SpongeBob meme. Show dont tell. Why bloat the image with unnecessary text, if the EXACT SAME message comes across with literally no text? Even if you think the text should/shouldnt or can/cant be there anyway regardless of how necessary it is, the fact that the exact same comic with no text still has the same meaning does prove that the criticism itself is valid. It means that the question of why the text is even there can at least be posed genuinely. It seems like peeps and mbt have chosen a side here “because funny” even though their side is objectively wrong and when the creator couldnt defend themselves being objectively wrong about the text they just jumped to ad homs on the other person to win.
Less text could made it less clear, in fact basil's example actually wouldn't have made the joke very clear and even if it did I think it ruins the joke a bit. I am going to explain/interpret the joke to explain my point. The joke is about how the "anti-woke" crowd seems to attach way too much importance to it that when something is deemed "anti-woke" they all jump on it. They use common phrases/lines people of that crowd is used so you can actually see/imagine those people and realise that what they are doing is pretty stupid. As the lemonade didn't actually change but suddenly they care for it. Basil says that because the OVERALL meaning can be given without those quotes then just remove them. And while the joke does work it arguably works LESS because you remove that clear link to what the criticism is to some more generic "oh right wing dumb/bad" that is just not as funny. It isn't hypocritical to say both of these work so complaining and saying you MUST have less text (what Basil is arguing) is dumb. Peeps isn't saying that less text is NOT good. He is saying it isn't REQUIRED and acting as if it is is dumb. Which is true. People who act as if these general rules are the word of law and then get mad when people actually play around with them are actually being stupid because they dont realose the point of rules especially in comedy are just guidelines and acting as if there is some objective truth makes you look dumb.
@@TheKastellan you are just wrong. People have posted countless examples of the same comic with no text other than “lemonade” with no line of people, and then “Anti woke lemonade” with a huge line of people. This clearly expresses the EXACT SAME meaning of the comic. Regardless, my point is that the fact that we are even arguing this proves that the point is arguable at all. Meaning that peeps and MBT are just wrong about his criticism being unnecessary or disingenuous. If it’s arguable, then its able to be criticized
@@cooldes4593 I...don't you understood at all what I said. I didn't say having less words would absolutely ruin the joke or make it not funny. I said that simply saying " less words = good" in an absolutist way is a stupid take because it is just taking a general rules/guideline and applying it as law. It completely ignores any clarity/targeting or whatever other use case such dialogue could be used for. Like I already said, they quotes the "anti-woke" crowd in the comic use are basically word-for-word what such people would use in real life. It is a more specific attack against them than just leaving the quote out as it more directly lets the reader picture people saying that. Yes the OVERALL meaning of the comic is as you put it "the EXACT SAME" but when you actually go into the specifics it isn't because OF COURSE IT ISN'T YOU'RE REMOVING CONTEXT/INFORMATION. And yes, it is perfectly valid to say you like one or the other. I already made it clear I like the text being there because I think adding it makes the joke clearer. Also I would like to point out the Basil was people antagonistic to Haus in their tweet, Haus and in turn Peeps are simply returning in kind. Complaining Peeps or Haus shouldn't be mad/attack Basil for disagreeing on something debatable when Basil ALSO did so and in fact did so first is hypocritical. Peeps is pointing out that if you attack someone, they reserve the right to do it back and if you have complaints then just don't do it. You are just interpreting it in the worst light possible and then saying Peeps is a hypocrite in doing so. Like you agree that it is debatable but carry on to use absolutist language acting as if "show don't tell" is 100% always the case and that it is "objectively" true. Pick one. You cannot just use "objectively" when it is you but when it is someone else say "well it is debatable and depends".
This just tells me you didn't see the point. The point was that basil came out of left field with an annoying "fixed it for you" attitude, and the other twitter user responded negatively because when a stranger acts annoying for no reason you generally react negatively and people are acting as if being mean was not the correct response to basil's annoying tweet. It doesn't matter whether basil was right or wrong, that's not the point.
Genuinely confused why they tried to quantify it in a way that made sense for the take to be wrong but them to be right and they had to fundamentally define the boundaries of a comic for it to make sense. Even I feel like I'm reaching even just repeating that.
@w5ildhero Trust me, when you're constantly online fighting about politics on Twitter everyone you interact with becomes annoying and so do you. Even if their takes are good they will always be annoying. And once in a while they take that attitude to something that is isn't the Twitter politics trenches this is what you get. They're so used to fighting and snarking that they see something like this as a debate to be won, but don't realize it, and so they don't know when to stop. I know because I used to be exactly like that
And since they're a prominent figure in said trenches all the annoying people they're constantly arguing with came with him, reinforcing the "annoying Twitter politics fighter" mentality
I dont watch MBT streams, or follow him on Twitter. Sometimes I worry that I'm missing out on content. Then I hear him say, "you guys know about my hernia right, got that diagnosed on Twitter" and you know, I don't feel so bad.
The Elden Ring DLC beats the main game by A LOT. The bosses are some of the most fun I've had in the game save maybe Mogh (whom I loved). For context I've beaten 3 major bosses and am working on a fourth right now. I read through these comments, big mistake. Some of yall just dont like having fun. Elden Ring is like a really well made liquorice treat - if you don't like liquorice, just do not bother.
Regardless of your opinion of Basil, they are correct. Haus having a mental breakdown on twitter doesn't really change that. The comic would be pretty objectively funnier with less text.
What the fuck do you mean "objectively"? Are you the arbiter of what's funny and not? Stop laundering your own tastes with this dumb facade of "objectivity".
I wouldn't call making fun of someone "a mental breakdown" also am I the only one here who thinks it wouldn't? The quotes the people say are word for word what you hear people like this say so saying "well the general meaning can be gotten across with those removed" while technically correct kinda removes some of the punch of the joke. Also people not taking some general rule and treating it as a law and not some guideline is always fun.
Like what do you mean "objectively"? Because people generally say shorter jokes are funnier automatically means if a joke could be shorter, then make it shorter?
@@TheKastellan Look, if Haus had just told Basil it was her style and to pound sand nobody would have been that upset. It was everything else that happened that made this a bigger deal, where Haus and others tried to defend the decision in and of itself, such as suggesting that Basil didn't like to read. As for what "objective" means in this context, it's the general position of philosophers of aesthetics that aesthetic value is objective. (~60% in the most recent philpapers survey) So there should be an objective fact of the matter as to which of these comics has more artistic merit, is more "aesthetically humorous", etc. Whether or not these facts are currently accessible to us. I mean, whatever. But they should exist objectively.
"Words are in a comic" is such a dogshit, surface level take on this lol. Yes, you're allowed to use words in your comic. But the point of a joke, and especially political commentary jokes or political cartoons is to be punchy and assume your audience is intelligent. The comic in question is approaching Ben Garrison levels of unnecessary text. It shows Haus simply is not confident in their own art to the point that they think they need unnecessary dialogue to make a point that is already made with zero of the dialogue. I've got no horse in this race; I had zero clue who either of these people were before this. But holy shit "comics have words" is such a dumbass rebuttal to an extremely valid criticism of this comic. Without the dialogue the EXACT SAME POINT is made more succinct, punchier, FUNNIER, and with less crowding on the panels. More words =/= better. And I'm saying this as someone who sometimes gets paid by the fucking word! Brevity is a skill. Calling someone out for being bad at it is valid.
sorry i just got to the bit in the video with the comic and was reminded of how much text is actually in it laughed out loud because i remembered this comment calling it "ben garrison levels of unnecessary text" because there are 3 extremely short sentences in it. truly a degree of contempt for one's audience never before seen at junior level and below
@@smonkk8556 And Ben Garrison's comics usually have less raw text than that. The point is that fully 100% of the dialogue in the comic is unnecessary to make the point. But hey, seems like it was helpful to you, so I guess she's nailed her audience.
And then I was repeatedly called a f*scist sympathizer in chat for pointing out that bad people can be good at things. I swear to God, it's like people read the Nichomachean Ethics and completely misunderstood it. ("Telos? What's that? To be a good person is simply to have the capacity to do things. So bad people can't be capable.") And then told that the idea that there might be aesthetic norms that aren't subjective (the standard view in philosophy of aesthetics and in metaethics btw) was "gross" and I needed to "seriously rethink it".
Reverse Harem is just a categorization of that specific genre of porn/anime. It exists just because Male POV Harem had already appropriated the category completely, and there was a market for Female POV Harem.
I think Asmongold is actually just very bad at speaking words so I'll say it, Elden Ring's issue is that they put Sekiro bosses into Dark Souls which does not mesh well at all. Often times, no matter what, you are dodging for 15 seconds from the same one or two combos which have a follow up specifically meant to punish you and nearly kill you for choosing to attack after it *seemed* to have ended. The game just baits you into being impatient, so the most fun people actually have with Elden Ring is being capable of cheesing bosses in some way or having a gameplan other than "I dodge I get 1 hit in I dodge for even longer"
Yu-Gi-Oh players commenting on the Kendrick drake beef should be illegal honestly, MBT is too white he used the word emassary talking about LA gangs being there 😭😂
(For the record, nobody _really_ cared about Basil's criticism until Haus and her fans started to call Basil and everyone that agreed with Basil f*scists. *That's* when the issue became a big deal, rather than just Basil criticizing Haus in a rude way.)
@@OsirusHandle I mean, it did get kinda nasty, and there were certainly some accusations that Haus was unconsciously sympathizing with stonetoss's propaganda, even as she was trying to refute it. (That one's a bit technical and would require me explaining wayyyyy more about the drama.) But the _explicit_ accusations were largely one-sided.
Tbf actual book lovers won't just read at gross public libraries. You want to collect books and read them in the comfort your house. Books that i collect usually range from 20-25usd I don't have anything against used books i just have preferences the same way you can just collect normal yugioh cards but collectors buy shiny cardboards costing 10x more than your average book
Nah, you are all wrong on the text on comics. If you put too much text on a comic that is supposed to be funny then you are doing it wrong. That's a fact.
43:00 the sad thing is for enough cash it would work. the critique ofc is "the people who would want this wouldnt be superior to begin with" but its defo possible today to select for certain genes via crispr or whatever which is horrifying. i suppose it gains the distance making it less "humiliating". but then theres a direct feminist critique of that feeling itself, the humiliation surely has some overtly patriarchal logic behind it. the actual comment is some bizzare cuckold fetish shit tho. the sad or perhaps wierdly optimistic thing is of all the things people would attack a billionaire over, THIS is something that would get elon killed.
I mean, we have sperm banks and sperm donors and there is nothing humiliating about those. The humiliating part is that it's specifically Elon musk's sperm, as in you went out of your way for that. It's a disgusting level of obsession. You should be ashamed for going so far for Elon's sperm. Once again tho, sperm donations, assisted conception and other such things are nothing to be ashamed of.
As a person who has and probably will continue to get completely naked when My insides have decided to make an attempt on my life. I completely understand this
15:51 is he saying latinx just to piss off latin americans? (MBT seconda later: "I just like people being mean online")..... Oh, he is 47:39 why is so important to learn how to use excel? 53:16 is it really that convincing?
They Not Like has united every fandom and community in existence, from Yu-Gi-Oh players to the LA Crips to lewd artists. Only Kendrick Lamar is capable of something to that measure.
MBT and Peeps reaction to that comic tweet was cringe as fuck. Basil is right that the comic would be funnier with less text but because they don't like her, she is wrong. Peeps has apparently never heard the saying "brevity is the soul of wit."
i also think that the comic is better with less text (but not by much, the way it is right now is fine too), the problem is that Basil picked the most annoying twitter-brained way to express their opinion. you can’t talk like that and then get upset when Haus responds in kind
@@lagartijamuerta That's not the problem that they have with with what Basil said. Peep is straight up saying that it's better with more words and acting like saying there should be less words is somehow a dumb thing to say.
@@lagartijamuerta Sure. Whatever. Basil was an ass. I agree. I don't actually like Basil that much. But insisting resolutely that the comic was clearly better with more words is not reasonable, insisting that people who think concision is a virtue here are "dumb" or "gross" is not reasonable, saying that a mere comparison of _technical skill_ to stonetoss makes you a f*scist is not reasonable, and calling people who point out that you are *_lying_* when you say that everyone needs an ID to vote a f*scist (something Haus did btw) is not reasonable. You know, if the response was just telling Basil to kick rocks, because it's Haus's style and regardless of whether it's technically the best that's how she wants to do it, nobody would be having an issue here. It's everything _surrounding_ this where Haus and her fans, like Peeps and MBT (and cj and dire in chat) are just so obviously wrong that they have no ground to stand on.
I am going to try one last time to make my comment and if YT deletes it then so be it. Let us do an exercise and interpret the original and the Basil edit. Original: People can "change" something to be "anti-woke" and people (specifically the type who would say something like in the comment, which I can definitely think of a few) will buy it AND people who grift like this should feel bad/guilty. Basil Edit: People can "change" something to be "anti-woke" and people will buy it.... that's it. Well technically there are extra implicit interpretations but any interpretation on the edit and be done on the original so no point putting those down. It is almost as if removing the text necessarily removes information which if part of the joke may mean that there is an argument to keep it even if the GENERAL idea is still put across! Seriously if you have to rely on choosing an idiom/guideline and treat it as the law then you don't actually have an argument because you aren't actually thinking about the media and its context. Now if you talked about how Haus and people apparently went on to further attack Basil about stuff that is much more important than just making fun of them, then sure that could be true (idk I refuse to use twitter). BUT, that does not negate the fact you cannot complain the Basil edit is objectively better (it is an opinion) and you cannot complain that Basil was getting insulted AT ALL given they were the one who did it first. That just makes you a hypocrite.
Peak is finally on the channel
Finally separating it out!! I will watch this religiously BUT it will probably replace watching entire VODs.
Thank god I hated scouring through all the vod channel stuff just so I can find a single bit from freax that I thought was funny. Having these as their own thing is gonna be so nice
HE FINALLY FUCKING LISTENED
“Im 30 now, there are some things a diet cant account for”
Me, In my 30’s trying to stop drinking coffee so I stop going number 3’s lmao
Imagine your opponent activates Maxx C, THEN LETS SAY THERE IS A SHARK
I love that we're uploading Freax to the Clips channel but it simply hits different after listening to MBT yap for an hour on the VODS channel.
Little do they know I’ve been working on a machine to control people wearing tin foil hats.
what if mbt was called mbfreak
And instead of summoning Kitkalos, he summoned Freakkalos
@@ToxicRenegade
Who instead of sending herself to the grave to mill 5 sent herself to onlyfans and had toes
Dawn of a new era for MBT TH-cam.
The library bit is mad funny. People just don’t go to the library at all. I think you can rent a leaf blower at my library.
"Sometimes you gotta pop out and shit on em" is an all timer
As someone who would watch VODs for this in particular, I'm so glad to see these as their own upload
I don't think the comic had too many words but I can see the argument that shorter & snappier is better. Not to mention the idea is kind of overdone. "Pro/Anti ideology product selling because people are pro/anti ideology" is not new.
the trump question is just "do you want unlimited bacon but no games or unlimited games but no games" restructured
it's always funny when people come to the stream from youtube and go "where's the yugioh"?
Little do they know they're watching peak
23:58 I wonder if he realizes that now, that blue eyes is a collector's item for all the wrong reasons
Thanks for putting this on my feed, I have a twitter but I keep to my tiny safe space away from the freaks so it's good to just get the highlights.
Same
What Kendrick Lamar really has to teach everyone is how valuable staying on-message at all times is. It matters more than having multiple valid points. You stay on message, you get your results.
is there any way to upload the full vod before the Freaks clip video? feels wrong to watch without the train. i understand that the freaks video on its own will do great for the numbers, as it really is a huge display of what makes MBT so fun and charismatic, but i think train + freaks is too good of a combo to seperate
Finally the mystery of what Freax means in the MBT stream announcements has been solved
10:00 This whole drama is funny to me because the actual point he was trying to get at is entirely valid, but some people are just so imminently hatable that at a certain point their actual opinion stops mattering. We all have a couple Basils in our life.
Listen as a proud trans woman.... That comic is both accurate, observant... And better with fewer words.
Preach.
lmao at the book section, that is exactly the shit my mom reads. It’s very funny how that works. I’ll talk to her about sci fi shit i’m reading and she’ll be like “oh that’s exactly like this book i was reading, alien fuckers 12” and i’m like yeah i’m sure that’s exactly the same lol
8:59 THIS WAS MY PERSONALITY AS A TEENAGER. AND NO GETTING LAID DIDNT FIX IT.
the best MBT content is everything beides the yugioh. besides dungeon duel monsters, that stuff is pretty good
Every time i watch twitter freaks and keep having moments of “the fuck does that mean?” Makes me think more and more i was raised in a lab.
Nah, those of us who get it are terminally online.
@@najawin8348 oh so thats what it means to be terminally online
5:41 Finally, we have confirmation that yugioh players shower once a month
MBT and peeps are just wrong about the comic thing.
Peeps is saying the other person shouldnt have a criticism because the criticism is just wrong and disingenuous.
Im going to assume he misused disingenuous and meant a different word so ill ignore that because i cant possibly see how that has anything to do with this, but he LITERALLY PROVES HIMSELF WRONG in the same conversation by mentioning the SpongeBob meme.
Show dont tell. Why bloat the image with unnecessary text, if the EXACT SAME message comes across with literally no text?
Even if you think the text should/shouldnt or can/cant be there anyway regardless of how necessary it is, the fact that the exact same comic with no text still has the same meaning does prove that the criticism itself is valid. It means that the question of why the text is even there can at least be posed genuinely.
It seems like peeps and mbt have chosen a side here “because funny” even though their side is objectively wrong and when the creator couldnt defend themselves being objectively wrong about the text they just jumped to ad homs on the other person to win.
Less text could made it less clear, in fact basil's example actually wouldn't have made the joke very clear and even if it did I think it ruins the joke a bit.
I am going to explain/interpret the joke to explain my point.
The joke is about how the "anti-woke" crowd seems to attach way too much importance to it that when something is deemed "anti-woke" they all jump on it. They use common phrases/lines people of that crowd is used so you can actually see/imagine those people and realise that what they are doing is pretty stupid. As the lemonade didn't actually change but suddenly they care for it.
Basil says that because the OVERALL meaning can be given without those quotes then just remove them. And while the joke does work it arguably works LESS because you remove that clear link to what the criticism is to some more generic "oh right wing dumb/bad" that is just not as funny.
It isn't hypocritical to say both of these work so complaining and saying you MUST have less text (what Basil is arguing) is dumb. Peeps isn't saying that less text is NOT good. He is saying it isn't REQUIRED and acting as if it is is dumb.
Which is true. People who act as if these general rules are the word of law and then get mad when people actually play around with them are actually being stupid because they dont realose the point of rules especially in comedy are just guidelines and acting as if there is some objective truth makes you look dumb.
@@TheKastellan you are just wrong.
People have posted countless examples of the same comic with no text other than “lemonade” with no line of people, and then
“Anti woke lemonade” with a huge line of people.
This clearly expresses the EXACT SAME meaning of the comic.
Regardless, my point is that the fact that we are even arguing this proves that the point is arguable at all. Meaning that peeps and MBT are just wrong about his criticism being unnecessary or disingenuous. If it’s arguable, then its able to be criticized
@@cooldes4593 I...don't you understood at all what I said.
I didn't say having less words would absolutely ruin the joke or make it not funny. I said that simply saying " less words = good" in an absolutist way is a stupid take because it is just taking a general rules/guideline and applying it as law.
It completely ignores any clarity/targeting or whatever other use case such dialogue could be used for.
Like I already said, they quotes the "anti-woke" crowd in the comic use are basically word-for-word what such people would use in real life. It is a more specific attack against them than just leaving the quote out as it more directly lets the reader picture people saying that.
Yes the OVERALL meaning of the comic is as you put it "the EXACT SAME" but when you actually go into the specifics it isn't because OF COURSE IT ISN'T YOU'RE REMOVING CONTEXT/INFORMATION.
And yes, it is perfectly valid to say you like one or the other. I already made it clear I like the text being there because I think adding it makes the joke clearer.
Also I would like to point out the Basil was people antagonistic to Haus in their tweet, Haus and in turn Peeps are simply returning in kind. Complaining Peeps or Haus shouldn't be mad/attack Basil for disagreeing on something debatable when Basil ALSO did so and in fact did so first is hypocritical. Peeps is pointing out that if you attack someone, they reserve the right to do it back and if you have complaints then just don't do it.
You are just interpreting it in the worst light possible and then saying Peeps is a hypocrite in doing so.
Like you agree that it is debatable but carry on to use absolutist language acting as if "show don't tell" is 100% always the case and that it is "objectively" true. Pick one. You cannot just use "objectively" when it is you but when it is someone else say "well it is debatable and depends".
This just tells me you didn't see the point. The point was that basil came out of left field with an annoying "fixed it for you" attitude, and the other twitter user responded negatively because when a stranger acts annoying for no reason you generally react negatively and people are acting as if being mean was not the correct response to basil's annoying tweet. It doesn't matter whether basil was right or wrong, that's not the point.
@@doublereel-real this is the worst take of all time. You are arguing against being critical of public, political commentary.
14:35 so if you take out the words its a meme, and it's funny, but if you leave in the words its a comic, and it's art.
Genuinely confused why they tried to quantify it in a way that made sense for the take to be wrong but them to be right and they had to fundamentally define the boundaries of a comic for it to make sense. Even I feel like I'm reaching even just repeating that.
@w5ildhero Trust me, when you're constantly online fighting about politics on Twitter everyone you interact with becomes annoying and so do you. Even if their takes are good they will always be annoying. And once in a while they take that attitude to something that is isn't the Twitter politics trenches this is what you get. They're so used to fighting and snarking that they see something like this as a debate to be won, but don't realize it, and so they don't know when to stop. I know because I used to be exactly like that
And since they're a prominent figure in said trenches all the annoying people they're constantly arguing with came with him, reinforcing the "annoying Twitter politics fighter" mentality
This has been the best week for someone who loves Yugioh and Track & Field
I dont watch MBT streams, or follow him on Twitter. Sometimes I worry that I'm missing out on content. Then I hear him say, "you guys know about my hernia right, got that diagnosed on Twitter" and you know, I don't feel so bad.
Can you also clip the 9 minutes of master duel your stream averages now a days?
OOP
It's just, idk how anyone expected a guy called doctor disrespect and looks like that to be a good guy
I think the appeal was that he was a stupid revolting asshole for a bit and now they're realising it wasn't a bit. MINOR difference.
Then today Dr Disrespect said, "Yeah I did it, go to game 3?"
No, the Elden Ring dlc isn't that bad. People just need to explore and use the tools that are in place for players.
I begin to hear Peeps voice, I close the video.
First time hearing them, what's the issue?
Posting your Ls
TWITTER FREAKS LETSGOOOOOO
The Elden Ring DLC beats the main game by A LOT. The bosses are some of the most fun I've had in the game save maybe Mogh (whom I loved).
For context I've beaten 3 major bosses and am working on a fourth right now.
I read through these comments, big mistake. Some of yall just dont like having fun.
Elden Ring is like a really well made liquorice treat - if you don't like liquorice, just do not bother.
Joseph so white. “LA gangs sent their emissaries”
can we upload the entire stream bit before yugioh comes up
Regardless of your opinion of Basil, they are correct. Haus having a mental breakdown on twitter doesn't really change that. The comic would be pretty objectively funnier with less text.
What the fuck do you mean "objectively"? Are you the arbiter of what's funny and not? Stop laundering your own tastes with this dumb facade of "objectivity".
I wouldn't call making fun of someone "a mental breakdown" also am I the only one here who thinks it wouldn't?
The quotes the people say are word for word what you hear people like this say so saying "well the general meaning can be gotten across with those removed" while technically correct kinda removes some of the punch of the joke.
Also people not taking some general rule and treating it as a law and not some guideline is always fun.
Like what do you mean "objectively"? Because people generally say shorter jokes are funnier automatically means if a joke could be shorter, then make it shorter?
@@TheKastellan the speech bubbles add nothing other than explaining the joke, which is already blatant.
@@TheKastellan Look, if Haus had just told Basil it was her style and to pound sand nobody would have been that upset. It was everything else that happened that made this a bigger deal, where Haus and others tried to defend the decision in and of itself, such as suggesting that Basil didn't like to read.
As for what "objective" means in this context, it's the general position of philosophers of aesthetics that aesthetic value is objective. (~60% in the most recent philpapers survey) So there should be an objective fact of the matter as to which of these comics has more artistic merit, is more "aesthetically humorous", etc. Whether or not these facts are currently accessible to us. I mean, whatever. But they should exist objectively.
Oh boy there’s one big one that just happened a few hours ago.
FINALLY Brainrot on Demand
absolute cinema
FINALLY REAL COFFEE
OH WHY'D YA GO AND SAY THAT
If I was getting MC Daddies Book 9, I also wouldn't want to pick it up from the library
do they know that you can just think like, anywhere, you can just go sit in a chair and not do anything whenever you want, no one's stopping them
What we have all been waiting for!!!
We lost this one btw
THANK GOD
"Words are in a comic" is such a dogshit, surface level take on this lol. Yes, you're allowed to use words in your comic. But the point of a joke, and especially political commentary jokes or political cartoons is to be punchy and assume your audience is intelligent.
The comic in question is approaching Ben Garrison levels of unnecessary text. It shows Haus simply is not confident in their own art to the point that they think they need unnecessary dialogue to make a point that is already made with zero of the dialogue.
I've got no horse in this race; I had zero clue who either of these people were before this. But holy shit "comics have words" is such a dumbass rebuttal to an extremely valid criticism of this comic. Without the dialogue the EXACT SAME POINT is made more succinct, punchier, FUNNIER, and with less crowding on the panels.
More words =/= better. And I'm saying this as someone who sometimes gets paid by the fucking word!
Brevity is a skill. Calling someone out for being bad at it is valid.
Like genuinely it's so wild why they just harped on a point instead of acknowledging that the words were so unbelievably unnecessary
sorry i just got to the bit in the video with the comic and was reminded of how much text is actually in it laughed out loud because i remembered this comment calling it "ben garrison levels of unnecessary text" because there are 3 extremely short sentences in it. truly a degree of contempt for one's audience never before seen at junior level and below
@@smonkk8556 And Ben Garrison's comics usually have less raw text than that. The point is that fully 100% of the dialogue in the comic is unnecessary to make the point.
But hey, seems like it was helpful to you, so I guess she's nailed her audience.
Yes but you see, they don't like like Basil so she's always wrong and the people they do like are always right.
And then I was repeatedly called a f*scist sympathizer in chat for pointing out that bad people can be good at things. I swear to God, it's like people read the Nichomachean Ethics and completely misunderstood it. ("Telos? What's that? To be a good person is simply to have the capacity to do things. So bad people can't be capable.")
And then told that the idea that there might be aesthetic norms that aren't subjective (the standard view in philosophy of aesthetics and in metaethics btw) was "gross" and I needed to "seriously rethink it".
FINALLY FREX IS HERE
Finally, you put the Freaks on the clip channel
WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE mbtL
Reverse Harem is just a categorization of that specific genre of porn/anime. It exists just because Male POV Harem had already appropriated the category completely, and there was a market for Female POV Harem.
Could we make a homunculus xD
In fact it is not from Seinfeld
TWITTER FREAKS UPLOADS ARE REAL
This format but for Will of the Councel
Twitter peak
I think Asmongold is actually just very bad at speaking words so I'll say it,
Elden Ring's issue is that they put Sekiro bosses into Dark Souls which does not mesh well at all.
Often times, no matter what, you are dodging for 15 seconds from the same one or two combos which have a follow up specifically meant to punish you and nearly kill you for choosing to attack after it *seemed* to have ended.
The game just baits you into being impatient, so the most fun people actually have with Elden Ring is being capable of cheesing bosses in some way or having a gameplan other than "I dodge I get 1 hit in I dodge for even longer"
0:58 Damn this is just a worst version of the salt and pepper dinner from John Mulaney
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It would be the funniest thing if drake tried to sue kendrick for defamation.
Hell. Yes.
Finally the good stuff
This type of contetn almost make me want to watch live streams
FINALLY! FREAKS VODS
Yu-Gi-Oh players commenting on the Kendrick drake beef should be illegal honestly, MBT is too white he used the word emassary talking about LA gangs being there 😭😂
Chat was really going mental during this one lmao
who the fuck reads chat in these
We need his entire content output to be Freaks
the entire comic bit is unbelievably dumb. why does anyone care. then again i think this basil person is correct
(For the record, nobody _really_ cared about Basil's criticism until Haus and her fans started to call Basil and everyone that agreed with Basil f*scists. *That's* when the issue became a big deal, rather than just Basil criticizing Haus in a rude way.)
@@najawin8348 lmao oof. i hope it just redoubled into "no ur the fascist" ad infinitum
@@OsirusHandle I mean, it did get kinda nasty, and there were certainly some accusations that Haus was unconsciously sympathizing with stonetoss's propaganda, even as she was trying to refute it. (That one's a bit technical and would require me explaining wayyyyy more about the drama.) But the _explicit_ accusations were largely one-sided.
@@najawin8348 LOL thats good. hehe secretly ur the nazi :) so silly
@@najawin8348ok SO go and share stonetoss cómics and act surprised when people call You a nazi
ok man this is all so dumb i hate twitter so much
Can anyone explain the first bit?
has trump finally found his jordan peterson yap about rats with sharks and electricity
Tbf actual book lovers won't just read at gross public libraries. You want to collect books and read them in the comfort your house. Books that i collect usually range from 20-25usd
I don't have anything against used books i just have preferences the same way you can just collect normal yugioh cards but collectors buy shiny cardboards costing 10x more than your average book
Every library I've been to let's you bring the books home as long as you bring them back.
FINALLY!!!
i love this
NO WAY PEAK
Reminds me a lot of Northernlion in a good way.
finally GOD
Basil is like the worst plant
Nah, you are all wrong on the text on comics.
If you put too much text on a comic that is supposed to be funny then you are doing it wrong. That's a fact.
43:00 the sad thing is for enough cash it would work. the critique ofc is "the people who would want this wouldnt be superior to begin with" but its defo possible today to select for certain genes via crispr or whatever which is horrifying. i suppose it gains the distance making it less "humiliating". but then theres a direct feminist critique of that feeling itself, the humiliation surely has some overtly patriarchal logic behind it.
the actual comment is some bizzare cuckold fetish shit tho. the sad or perhaps wierdly optimistic thing is of all the things people would attack a billionaire over, THIS is something that would get elon killed.
I mean, we have sperm banks and sperm donors and there is nothing humiliating about those. The humiliating part is that it's specifically Elon musk's sperm, as in you went out of your way for that. It's a disgusting level of obsession. You should be ashamed for going so far for Elon's sperm. Once again tho, sperm donations, assisted conception and other such things are nothing to be ashamed of.
Haus is seething as fuck
cope cope cope
commenting to pay you to upload more
As a person who has and probably will continue to get completely naked when My insides have decided to make an attempt on my life. I completely understand this
The fabled gas leak episode.
Oh so Trump is melting too. Incredible
15:51 is he saying latinx just to piss off latin americans? (MBT seconda later: "I just like people being mean online")..... Oh, he is
47:39 why is so important to learn how to use excel?
53:16 is it really that convincing?
Finally
They Not Like has united every fandom and community in existence, from Yu-Gi-Oh players to the LA Crips to lewd artists. Only Kendrick Lamar is capable of something to that measure.
Oh cool twitter freaks is back
MBT is THIRTY?????
MBT and Peeps reaction to that comic tweet was cringe as fuck. Basil is right that the comic would be funnier with less text but because they don't like her, she is wrong. Peeps has apparently never heard the saying "brevity is the soul of wit."
Basil goes by they/them btw. I don't think they mind too much, but just for future reference.
i also think that the comic is better with less text (but not by much, the way it is right now is fine too), the problem is that Basil picked the most annoying twitter-brained way to express their opinion. you can’t talk like that and then get upset when Haus responds in kind
@@lagartijamuerta That's not the problem that they have with with what Basil said. Peep is straight up saying that it's better with more words and acting like saying there should be less words is somehow a dumb thing to say.
@@lagartijamuerta Sure. Whatever. Basil was an ass. I agree. I don't actually like Basil that much. But insisting resolutely that the comic was clearly better with more words is not reasonable, insisting that people who think concision is a virtue here are "dumb" or "gross" is not reasonable, saying that a mere comparison of _technical skill_ to stonetoss makes you a f*scist is not reasonable, and calling people who point out that you are *_lying_* when you say that everyone needs an ID to vote a f*scist (something Haus did btw) is not reasonable.
You know, if the response was just telling Basil to kick rocks, because it's Haus's style and regardless of whether it's technically the best that's how she wants to do it, nobody would be having an issue here. It's everything _surrounding_ this where Haus and her fans, like Peeps and MBT (and cj and dire in chat) are just so obviously wrong that they have no ground to stand on.
It has hardly 10 words. You need help
I am going to try one last time to make my comment and if YT deletes it then so be it.
Let us do an exercise and interpret the original and the Basil edit.
Original:
People can "change" something to be "anti-woke" and people (specifically the type who would say something like in the comment, which I can definitely think of a few) will buy it AND people who grift like this should feel bad/guilty.
Basil Edit:
People can "change" something to be "anti-woke" and people will buy it....
that's it.
Well technically there are extra implicit interpretations but any interpretation on the edit and be done on the original so no point putting those down.
It is almost as if removing the text necessarily removes information which if part of the joke may mean that there is an argument to keep it even if the GENERAL idea is still put across!
Seriously if you have to rely on choosing an idiom/guideline and treat it as the law then you don't actually have an argument because you aren't actually thinking about the media and its context.
Now if you talked about how Haus and people apparently went on to further attack Basil about stuff that is much more important than just making fun of them, then sure that could be true (idk I refuse to use twitter).
BUT, that does not negate the fact you cannot complain the Basil edit is objectively better (it is an opinion) and you cannot complain that Basil was getting insulted AT ALL given they were the one who did it first. That just makes you a hypocrite.
Mmmm I tend to like your takes mbt, but gotta say, I dont like you talking shit about Basil
Looking at all this leftist infighting never ceases to brighten my day.
Liberals are hardly left wing. You weirdo