Fixing Korrasami and the End of Korra

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  • @HelloFutureMe
    @HelloFutureMe  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2105

    KORRA GREAT.
    ~ Tim

  • @crimsoneclipse0618
    @crimsoneclipse0618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4738

    The series would have so mich better if they build the gang as friends more before they dived right into the love triangle. Like, make us care about them first before you make them lovers.

    • @oliviaspring9690
      @oliviaspring9690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +212

      There were two different love triangles. The first was kind of small but still. Seeing Bolin sad was just kind of unnecessary and would have been better if they just hung out as friends. Also maybe adding in more romantic tension for Korra and Asami, rather than just butting heads over a guy, earlier would have been nice.

    • @jneff6456
      @jneff6456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Couldn't agree more! In fact, I would argue the whole love triangle thing became a bit of an obstacle for the show because of its early adoption.
      "Also maybe adding in more romantic tension for Korra and Asami" - YES!!!!!! For the love of God, yes! I mean, I get why they did it that way... the creators didn't think they'd be able to have a more protracted romance between the two due to the gray-hairs at the Studio... but it still would have been appreciated!

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Ther is also the love triangle that actually is grreat, lin tenzin and huis wife. Thats more inome resentment and them making up, which is a love triangle too and works. Even if its from th past playing in.
      Bt yeah it should have maybe moments but be friends.

    • @karshbandicoot5037
      @karshbandicoot5037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don't think the writers were thinking about it that way or even cared. They just wanted a spicy dating scenario to attract a teenage American audience who watched all the other cringy content on the channel.

    • @ChadKakashi
      @ChadKakashi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’re acting like Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko have any skill in writing to make that work.

  • @tenshi7751
    @tenshi7751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1886

    I don't think having mako die is a good decision. Like you said, it makes the ending a lot more somber, but I think it has more rippling effects past that. With how this plays out, mako dies on bad terms with kora and asami, and then they get together right after his funeral, which is like... Damn? That's rough buddy

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +545

      I feel like he should just get really badly injured and the wedding scene would get replaced with everyone visiting him in the hospital. this would give him and kora a chance to make up, and would feel way less somber

    • @dallasgrey4247
      @dallasgrey4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, Mako sucks. He can die all he wants.

    • @Iamstickman
      @Iamstickman ปีที่แล้ว +197

      @@wren_. I actually prefer this. It's less somber and more bittersweet but still ends on a good note for everyone. Also we need Varrick and Ju-Li to reconcile. Maybe with the through line for Varrick's character arc this season that he had taken Ju-Li for granted and actually has romantic feelings for her. They don't need to get married at the end but I liked Varrick and Ju-Li's dynamic in the original show and I'd hate to see it go away.

    • @wordswstupidtile
      @wordswstupidtile ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I never watched his other videos, but I think he removed the love triangle in his rewrite so it’s not that odd

    • @Diamondr11Blue
      @Diamondr11Blue ปีที่แล้ว

      No 2tf

  • @BeastRider300
    @BeastRider300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1542

    KORRA GREAT.
    ..but I still feel like Mako needed more attention even in this re-write. Him having non-bending prejudice is really good conflict, but as the story goes on it still feels more like he's just there to be the team fire bender more than anything. Back when season 1 of Korra was airing, the memes for him surrounded his being a team mom, and to this day I still feel like that could have been his most defining roll in team Avatar. Mako being overprotective of Bolin, Asami, and Korra could have been a good dynamic for the team, and I thought this would be an interesting contrast with his natural insensitivity and emotional immaturity. Him being the older sibling and losing his parents forces him to grow up fast - he would learn to take care of himself and his bother (domestic and responsible) but develop an unhealthy callousness as a coping mechanism. It would contrast even more with Bolin's seemingly boundless optimism, and avoid him being Katara 2.0. Perhaps it could have been Wu that finally breaks through to him, having Mako tearfully open up and admitting he misses Bolin during the book 4 conflict or something. It could be part of a series long arc for him that tragically ends in his death.

    • @mohawkmeteor7189
      @mohawkmeteor7189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Awh man I like this. After season 1 he really often felt tacked on or just there to provide some muscle. Your arc sounds pretty cool and I could really see that being more an unfinished one. The isolation making him suddenly turn way too overprotective during the finale and getting himself killed even.

    • @barbedwire9975
      @barbedwire9975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I agree, mako had some really good character moments, or things that you can kind of cobble together into a character but he never got enough focus to be actually fleshed out or more then the resident hot fire bender. I think the idea of mako is that he seems to be kind of a slave to the system and it makes him kind of really sad, and the other part of him is he’s got this self sacrificial streak about him, what you describe as being a mum. I think it would have been really nice if mako kind of went through ‘therapy’ throughout the show and learned to prioritise his own happiness, ending the show in a much better state mentally. To add to this maybe don’t have him sacrifice himself. Idk just my two cents

    • @play_history
      @play_history 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      In the Razbuten Season 2 rewrite he emphasizes Mako's overworking (he gets left as one of the few benders on the police force) which I think dovetails perfectly with this. I wish they had committed to something. Bolin gets so much development that at least an ounce of that could have been given to Mako. Really good voice actor too, shame he never said anything worth hearing.

    • @Birthday888
      @Birthday888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      This. I really wished Bolin and Mako's relationship would've been used more in the chow over all. Because Bolin's whole conflict throughout the series was him lacking direction and purpose, and Mako was seemingly the opposite of that. So it would've been nice to see that trait being emphasized to an almost unhealthy degree.

    • @davefred
      @davefred 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Korra absolute trash

  • @samweli__
    @samweli__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +758

    Man you got me over here grieving over Mako's non cannon death 😭
    You did a great job with this series, had me on the edge of my seat through all four videos.

    • @kadeadams2308
      @kadeadams2308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I'm not happy with Tim killing mako. He should live.

    • @storyphile4518
      @storyphile4518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I honestly cheered when Tim went there! Not that I don’t like Mako, but I would’ve loved him sacrificing himself to save the city/his brother.

    • @CrewMonkey1458
      @CrewMonkey1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Same! my only issue with Tim's rewrite is that before Mako's death he didn't get any closure with Korra and or Asami, like I wish they would have one more meaningful interaction where he ends on good terms with them as friends. Note- this video is so long that if there was a scene like that, I may have missed it and if so, please point it out for me:)

    • @lemonlordminecraft
      @lemonlordminecraft ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Idk what you mean, the death had a lot to do with a cannon

    • @clonetrooper2003
      @clonetrooper2003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice pun@@lemonlordminecraft

  • @trace9021
    @trace9021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1160

    I'm enjoying these rewrites (KORRA GREAT), but one thing- if you're abiding by the same episode limitations that the Korra team had, you should only give yourself 12 episodes to fit everything in. Bryan Konietzko wrote a post on his Tumblr at the time the show was airing talking about how Nick had cut the show's budget for season 4, and they had to make a choice between making a clipshow episode to save money or fire some of their staff to cut costs. I don't think they were happy about having to do "Remembrances" either.

    • @theroyaljules39
      @theroyaljules39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      But he limited himself to 13 because that’s what season 4 had. He said that at the beginning

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Personally they did the bet o a clip show, with wu roasting mako and that was , also varrik makes it fun. and makio actually is ffun as straight man in a dynamic.

    • @trace9021
      @trace9021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@theroyaljules39 I know, what I was saying was that the Korra team wasn't given the budget to make 13 episodes, they only had the budget for 12. Nick had signed off on Book 3 and Book 4 at the same time, so they were written and planned out before Nick decided to cut their budget on Book 4. They didn't _want_ to do a clip show episode, but the network had ordered a 13 episode season, so they had to meet that 13 episode order. A clip show episode let them reuse old show footage with minimal animation and voice acting additions to save money.
      So it could have been an additional writing constraint for Tim to have to take his story rewrites and essentially cut one episode out, the way the Korra team had to with episode 8.

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Nickelodeon really fucked up they production

    • @driezzy
      @driezzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "Remembrances" has a great scene between Korra and Tenzin. So beautiful

  • @dallasgrey4247
    @dallasgrey4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +900

    A way to get around the Opal airbender/Beifong problem in this rewrite, is to make it so that Sue kind of has a connection with Opal, who could be an orphan. Opal as an airbender might stop by Zhou Fu often, and is invited into the family in a way. That way she is still an airbender and has a connection to the Beifongs

    • @Doomsword0
      @Doomsword0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      and that could be a good parallel to Kuvira who was also an orphan taken in by Su

    • @dallasgrey4247
      @dallasgrey4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@Doomsword0 another comparison within this adoption type thing is that Kuvira was sort of thrust upon Su, while Opal would kind of be naturally welcomed in

    • @Doomsword0
      @Doomsword0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@dallasgrey4247 That and Su might accidently show favoritism toward Opal without even realizing it, furthering Kuvira's othering

    • @catus-cactus
      @catus-cactus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Kuvira is adopted into the beifong family. They are already family which means Kuvira wants to marry her brother. Yuck

    • @dallasgrey4247
      @dallasgrey4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@catus-cactus another reason why we aren’t supposed to like Kuvira.

  • @arando689
    @arando689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +880

    Maybe it's just me but I always got the feeling that the Fire Nation in Korra's time was undergoing a mirror to the Japanese Sakoku isolationist policy

    • @ausnahmenwerfer5570
      @ausnahmenwerfer5570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      Wasn't the Sakoku decree about removing foreign cultural influence? That does not align with the Fire Nation keeping itself out of a war but their prince being an admiral of the United Forces. Feels more like German hesitancy on partaking in wars after setting all of Europe ablaze.

    • @jzmc7562
      @jzmc7562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      I thought it was more akin to Germany’s anti-interference military policy today that rose out of shame for their past

  • @froukje6793
    @froukje6793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    My god I am so invested in this. Let me tell you--Audiobooks are NOT my thing. My mind always wanders and ends up anywhere else rather than the story i'm supposedly listening to, but daaaaang your rewrites had me hanging on to every word. I honestly felt like a little kid again, leaning my head on a pillow close to the screen and watching my favourite series better than ever before. Thank you so much for doing this

    • @Themightystar5000
      @Themightystar5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You like Asami. to be traitorous and equalest Amon instead of being a -bander he got his powers from spirits or the lion turtle would have been better and the story would have had a meaning and not made him a super bander and deceitful and made the story meaningless He makes the revolution a lie, the idea meaningless, and the story meaningless the hero would not face anything or learn something because he is a deceiver I see if Amon was not a bander would have The story better And Mako dies, how is this for the sake of God's be better than the original writing 🤔

    • @RedXian7
      @RedXian7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What's a bander?

  • @ClockworkBlade
    @ClockworkBlade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    I imagine the cannon moving through the city slowly. Stopping regularly to fire a sweep across the city, leveling parts of the city, destroying forces and blasting key buildings and locations to take out any place for the enemy to hide…. A nightmare on the battle field for sure

    • @pjmetzen3483
      @pjmetzen3483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It’d probably be used as long range fire support since it’s basically a rail gun.

    • @ClockworkBlade
      @ClockworkBlade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@pjmetzen3483 *metal creaking, stops in safe area.* BANG *Aims* BANG *Aims* BANG *Aims* BANG… Cannon starts loading *Buildings collapsing in distance.*

    • @pyraffin
      @pyraffin ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Reminds me of the drill digging into ba sing se

    • @ClockworkBlade
      @ClockworkBlade ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pyraffin the drill felt weighty, it felt dramatic, it felt intense… that’s how I imagine this cannon

    • @ThePenguinMan
      @ThePenguinMan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eh I liked the mech. don’t get why so many people hate the mech. it was really cool

  • @SirBucketing
    @SirBucketing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    so when i first saw the final episode, i didn't even think they were in a relationship (granted i was young and naive) but there was nothing building up to it, so when i did learn that it was supposed to be a romantic relationship i was surprised. so i think you building up to it is really good. because when i first saw it i genuinely thought they were going on a " Girl's trip" to the spirit realm

    • @ThePenguinMan
      @ThePenguinMan ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah I never knew it was roma-a-man-t- yeah I didn’t think it was a trip in that context. I thought like you that it was just a girls night out or something

    • @Shay416
      @Shay416 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I thought the same thing and I was like 25 😂

    • @penguen029
      @penguen029 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Literally me i thought they were just friends and I’m a 17 year old girl and my little sister had to be like no they’re actually gay and i was like what that literally comes outta nowhere

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same.
      It was just a friendly outing.
      There was literally no clue or build up suggesting any romantic interest between them, plus they were straight as far as we knew...
      When i learned they were supposed to be a couple it felt more like an exécutive decision afterward to try to check more diversity boxes... Really contrived.

    • @completelynormalperson7077
      @completelynormalperson7077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@etienne8110you do know that the reason it feels that way is because nickelodeon didn’t allow it to be obvious. Why would a company try and get diversity points for something they are practically hiding

  • @red_skies80
    @red_skies80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    “Mako is just being Mako”. Pretty much sums up his character in each season

  • @lukereynolds3708
    @lukereynolds3708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    I think one missed opportunity in your rewrite is in the episode where korra visits zaheer in his prison. In the original story, this part is focused on her reconnection with rava. I think in this version, you have her reconnect with vatu. Rava being the spirit of order would love kuvira. And I think it would be really interesting if we saw rava speak about how kuvira is doing it all correct. Then we have korra find vatu, and vatu opens up her eyes to how the chaos she feared so much in season 3 is the only thing that protects the everyday person from people like kuvira. Great job though love this!

    • @Chorismos
      @Chorismos ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Very interesting idea. Would also allow us to see Anarchistic ideas in a new light.

    • @jaredkhan8743
      @jaredkhan8743 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I really like this idea

    • @umwha
      @umwha ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Amazing idea!!!! Yes, avatar committed the mistake of conflating ‘order’ and ‘good’ and chaos being bad. Which contradicts its previous focus on ‘balance’. The avatar spirit should have been the combination of Rava and Vatu or perhaps the child of R and V.

    • @vincentfreddoyle7555
      @vincentfreddoyle7555 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yes I love that. Drawing connections between rava and kuvira and vaatu and zaheer would help fight against the god kite and satan kite dynamic, showing they can both be ‘bad’/unbalanced

    • @toadlord8594
      @toadlord8594 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gone That’s an AMAZING IDEA!!

  • @Sootielove
    @Sootielove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I've always thought the best reinterpretations/critique/rewrites come from a love or passion for the original, and this series shows it. You really highlight what works and what doesn't with Korra and you capture the tone of the original while improving it drastically. I'll always love Korra but I love exploring the ways it could have been better

  • @chillpill1649
    @chillpill1649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    A huge issue I’ve alway had when it came to Korra was how they showed off character struggles. It felt like a lot of the time instead of the problem a certain character is facing being the main issue, it is the lover of the character being mad at them and that is where the struggle is derived. I.E Bolin stuggling with the morality of working with Kuviera being manifested by Opal. Macos struggle as a cop being Manifested by korra. And Genora wanting to rebel, Manifested through Kai. The writers seem to think that a great way to show a character is struggling or changing, is to give them love related conflicts and it starts to feel forced and overdone.

    • @Elvalley
      @Elvalley 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed. Also, it's not bad to take advantage of some aspect of a romantic interest to force a character to confront an issue they wouldn't otherwise, but to do it so often, and play it out always as an couple's conflict... No need to repeat it so much, it's grating. The repetition, I mean. The repetition is grating.

  • @Great_Olaf5
    @Great_Olaf5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Your description of the situation with Ikki being rescued from the Earth Kingdom soldiers implies to me that you changed the scene where she basically Lima Syndromed them into letting her go (I know she was technically rescued in the original, but she was really close, and the way she talks right after implies that she was doing it completely on purpose, and that was freaking hilarious).
    I could see Kuvira doing the camps thing, less as a concentration camp reference and more as a re-education camp reference, plus a bit of a reference to how the Earth Queen was capturing the airbenders in the original show (I know you nixed that because of your shift in how the new airbenders emerged in this). Less a racist, revanchist action, more as a pragmatic "these people have abilities that could be valuable to the empire, and if they're living here they must be made to serve us by any means necessary." kind of action.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes, like its no better, but it mak more sense to have hr force them to follow her iron fist and "reeducated" . Which is as bad, and it makes more ense why he would threaten the bandit into following her ,
      the eredicating is moe like ozai did, her its straight up the send them into camps to follow her.

    • @Doomsword0
      @Doomsword0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I always liked that bit with Ikki, showed she was smart, even if not in the same way as everyone else around her

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It also work with what happens and she states in the comics about how she saw the reeducation camps

    • @michaelramon2411
      @michaelramon2411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I can see Kuvira establishing actual concentration camps for fire and water benders. "Concentration camp" doesn't actually mean "extermination camp," but rather "big prison for this group." (Which is still a bad thing, if that wasn't obvious.) The Nazis labeled their murder camps as "concentration camps" to conceal what they were doing. Kuvira's camps would probably be more analogous to America's Japanese internment camps in WWII. "We don't trust that these people won't side with our enemies, so we have to move them someplace where they can't threaten us."
      Like a proper fascist, Kuvira has a heavily modern state obsessed with "returning" to a glorious past that either never existed or cannot be reclaimed. In Kuvira's case, it is the pre-Hundred-Year-War Earth Kingdom, and so she feels that she not only has to recover all of that territory, but she also has to sweep away post-war creations like Republic City and anything resulting from the post-war immigration and ethnic mixing. The Earth Empire is for earthbenders and associated non-benders, and the idea of a loyal Earth Kingdom citizen who can also firebend is just alien and wrong to her.

  • @laurenthomas7074
    @laurenthomas7074 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Korras disability, depression and development in season 4 was very important and meaningful to me as a newly disability teenager when I watched it - it was done beautifully

    • @shreyakar9220
      @shreyakar9220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes. I am really pissed when people just say legend of korra is bad just because they cannot relate to her, or because she is not like aang. Well guess what, SHE IS NOT AANG. SHE IS KORRA. No two persons in this world is same. I related to korra through her frustration of loosing control, her ptsd. Thats why I like her more than aang. I am just tired of people saying she is weak. They have no idea how strong you have to be to fight your own mind. To get up every day know full well that you have to battle with your self, that voice in your head saying you are worthless, rinse and repeat each day for the rest of your life.

  • @joshlincoln6985
    @joshlincoln6985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    @Hello Future Me
    Only watched half way through, so far, but I'm enjoying how this is all continuing on from previous videos and I agree with the omissions.
    One thing I'd do differently: Korra only gets her earthbending back in the swamp, not her firebending. There are some narrative reasons for this: Korra only needs her earthbending to remove the metal poison and, in your reimagining, she has only regained one element at a time so far. Conceptually, earth is the element of substance, and you must have inner and outer strength to move the element (see Toph's lessons to Aang). So Korra needs the firm will and the resolve to alter the substance inside her and remove the metal, which she learns through Toph and the badgermoles.
    She regains her firebending when she goes to Zaheer. Up until this point, she has lost her drive and her passion for being the avatar - two things which are essential for firebending. And it is the trauma and fear of Zaheer that is stopping her - similar to how Zuko's firebending is blocked by his loss of purpose after he renounces his Father. So she confronts Zaheer, and he confirms her strength and zeal (like he does in the show) and motivates her to regain that courage and drive to go into the spirit realm, thus resolving her psychological/spiritual crisis. She then encounters a dragon spirit (maybe even Fang with Roku) and does the dancing dragon with it to regain her bending.
    I've been looking forward to this final reworking for weeks now - really looking forward to seeing how you conclude this. Hope you like my ideas Tim. And please take care of yourself - these weekly reviews of RoP and HotD must be tiring along with your usual content. You owe us nothing more than you owe yourself health and happiness, and we will understand if you need to take a break.

    • @jonahdunch4056
      @jonahdunch4056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's a really solid idea 👌 would help pace out her recovery even better

    • @Grey-the-gey
      @Grey-the-gey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thats an amazing idea but i feel like we'd need some more time for this. Otherwise it might shift the focus to regaining power of her bending too much. I agree tho, that her recovery could be paced out more, especially her physical one. When she runs away from the south pole, there's almost no remnants of her being paralyzed for as long as she was. I dunno if thats realistic tho, I've never been paralyzed before.

  • @wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus
    @wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Kuvira turning out to be the good guy would have been such a great ending, and a clever subversion of Chosen One trope this universe is fundamentally built on. It is crazy how much unused potential there is with The Legend of Korra.

    • @nicoletara353
      @nicoletara353 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      she did, in the comics

    • @flyingchimp5012
      @flyingchimp5012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If your Avatar is as bad as Korra was, just unalive them and hope for a better roll next gen.
      You know Kuvira is still a fascist, right? Subversion for subversions sake can lead to hilariously tasteless situations. You'd need an entirely different villain in the last arc for it to make sense here.

    • @wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus
      @wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@flyingchimp5012 I wouldn't have made Kuvria a fascist in this scenario obviously. Instead, I would have played up the anti-monarchy angle. The Earth Kingdom is based on China during the late Qing dynasty, so the fourth season of Korra could have paralleled the 1911 revolution (during which the monarchy was overthrown). Kuvira could be Sun Yat-sen in this allegory. It would fit much better into the Asian-inspired setting and general time period TLOK is set in. I would also keep Kuvira's opposition to the United Republic as a point of conflict, but coming from an anti-imperialist angle (the United Republic was a colony after all). Initially, Korra would side with the monarchy and the status quo because muh harmony, but ultimately she would realise that sometimes change is necessary at the expense of the status quo, and that the role of the Avatar should be a spiritual one rather than playing the world police. This final conclusion is something I really liked in TLOK, but sadly (like so many things in this show) it was executed poorly.

    • @CrowHousePress
      @CrowHousePress 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are you here if you think Korra is bad? That's literally the opposite point of this video.@@flyingchimp5012

    • @exa.-210
      @exa.-210 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirusIn all fairness, Chang Kai-Shek is a much better pick for a Kuvira comparison than Sun Yat Sen (highly recognizable to a layman like me, he probably he had some more Kuvira-esa people under him).
      A generalissimo type person, authoritarian, but painted (here in the west, don't know enough to judge myself) as ultimately justified. I get what they were doing with the ideology allegories in Korra, but I wish they went for the historical parallel instead.
      Just like The Fire Nation was basically imperial Japan, I wish that Kuvira was basically a leader of an in-universe Kuomintang, except far more successful. That way we could've told a far more nuanced story than "fascism with mechs" and having her actually redeem herself (by stepping down and allowing democracy or at least starting the process).

  • @Chorismos
    @Chorismos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    Thanks for this Tim. I especially Hated how Kuvira was simultaneously cartoonishly Evil and Sympathetic. Especially considering she commited genocide.

    • @ag7898
      @ag7898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Agreed. In a series full of between pretty good and great villains, Kuvira just seemed to not be a threat for the most part. She had a lot of that vaudevillian mustache twirling villian to her. Plus super fascist nazi feel that was just really odd. It made her redemption at the end seem... odd and boring.

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@ag7898 Unalaq has it even worse. He comes off as just another boring mustache twirling without to much intimidation or coolness to him. And his plans are honestly stupid and almost self-defeating if he wasn’t extremely lucky.

    • @ayannabranchcomb7535
      @ayannabranchcomb7535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I think that what irritated me most about Korra was that the villains were all interesting in theory and could have been taken in different nuanced directions but they dropped the ball and turned them into typical saturday morning cartoon big bads. I don’t have a problem with that inherently I just need consistency. Ozai was more consistent in his villainy, he was evil because he had the power to do so and that’s just who he was. Simple, and that’s who he was from start to finish

    • @PhoenixFireZero
      @PhoenixFireZero ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I imagine the spinoff comic where they tried to give her a redemption arc didn't go over well

    • @Chorismos
      @Chorismos ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@PhoenixFireZero LOL yeah came of as sympathizing to me lol. Considering she had concentration camps.

  • @darkmatter9651
    @darkmatter9651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Honestly Im so glad you're making this tbh, I finally see someone say korrasami was underdeveloped and how s4 was weird as hell

    • @littlesparrow303
      @littlesparrow303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For real!! Korrasami only had a few moments of hints that they were together or getting closer. However without them, the other lgbt cartoon couples wouldn’t happen & S4 did d a good job but agree it was a bit weird

  • @jojothebard6687
    @jojothebard6687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I Really love rewrite series and yours is up there. I loved how you made the romance between Kora and Asami more subtle, better paced, and believable. And the fact that there wasn’t a confirmation kiss feels very refreshing. If you plan to continue these rewrites in other series, Maybe you could do a rewrite that’s a lot more challenging. Maybe, Steven Universe?

    • @miglek9613
      @miglek9613 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I feel like we have enough queerbaiting in modern media so I don't really see how not having a confirmation of a queer romantic relationship is refreshing? Like, it would've potentially allowed the 4th season of the show to be aired on TV in my country (it either wasn't because of the anti gay representation laws present in my country or there is a chance it was, just without the last episode and I just didn't see a single episode of it somehow, which would be surprising since I was still watching TV for a bit after the 3rd season aired) but unless you just really dislike queer couples existing in media I really can't see how that's an actively positive change

  • @lukeskywalkerthe2nd773
    @lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    While I am one of those people who doesn't like Korra all that well, I nonetheless respect your thoughts on it Tim, and I really enjoyed your "fixing" videos on the show! They were really great! I hope you make another series like this at some point in the future! :)

  • @khodexus4963
    @khodexus4963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    One thing I might change from your rewrite here is how you portray the Earth Kingdom's monarchy. It's a great opportunity to parallel how the British Empire transitioned from a full monarchy to that separation of state and government that they have now. That's something that alot of people don't really understand, even people who live in the United Kingdom, so having something in a story like this could be a great way to gateway people into that knowledge without brow beating them with it.

    • @uanime1
      @uanime1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The transition from an absolute monarchy to a constitutional one happened before the British Empire existed. You'd have to go back to the English Civil war to cover this.

    • @khodexus4963
      @khodexus4963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@uanime1 The exact date that the "British Empire" came into existence varies based on how you define it. But it's not really relevant to the point I was making. It is a fascinating topic regardless.

    • @uanime1
      @uanime1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@khodexus4963
      "The exact date that the "British Empire" came into existence varies based on how you define it."
      After Britain was created; which was after the English Civil war, so you're still wrong.
      "But it's not really relevant to the point I was making."
      It literally shows you don't understand what you are talking about.

    • @khodexus4963
      @khodexus4963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@uanime1 Which only proves you don't grasp what my point was. Try more reading comprehension, less egotistical inferiority complex next time.

  • @basilgum
    @basilgum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    KORRA GREAT! I've definitely loved this series, and while I don't agree with all the changes you've suggested, your ideas are always well-substantiated and thoughtful. It's gotten tiring to me seeing people who hated Korra try to "rewrite" it, because it feels like they're just trying to tell the story they wanted instead of taking cues from the oftentimes amazing building blocks that are already in the show. Like many of my favorite series, Korra often stumbles under the weight of the stories it's trying to tell, but there are so many points of thematic complexity and beautiful storytelling throughout, and it's nice to see people acknowledge the value of those stories and try to do them more justice.
    Thanks for putting so much effort into this awesome video. :)

    • @DandDgamer
      @DandDgamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So true. I remember this series that rewrote sonic 06... it was very good, but from a technical perspective made so many changes it arguably broke as much as it fixed. Was it better? Probably, but it lost most of what I liked along the way, personally. I think there's something beautiful about the writing exercise of changing the bare minimum you have to. I got chills listening to the Mako Bolin section. It was *almost* there in the show, but the tweaks made it so much more

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Great" is too much of a strong word

  • @ryodark
    @ryodark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I left a comment on your first video in this series inquiring how you would handle the Korrasami relationship development and I'm so happy I finally get to hear your thoughts on this. I loved the changes you included to show how their affection for one another grew slowly over time. The conversation you wrote between them at ~37 minutes in actually moved me to tears, it felt perfect.
    All those years, writing me letters....why did you come find me in the swamp?
    ....Everyone else came looking because they needed the Avatar back.....
    [[I came looking because I needed Korra back]]

  • @alexandrabergman4568
    @alexandrabergman4568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Probably been pointed out already but Kuvira would know about Korra’s poisoning. She was one of the soldiers Suyin brought with her. I remember the season 3 artbook had character models for that group and Kuvira had a note about how she’d be important later, please draw her on model.
    Korra great! Seasons 3 and 4 really showed how much potential the series had once Nickolodeon stopped yanking the creator’s chain over how many episodes they’d get.
    (Nickolodeon just yanked it in other ways. See slashed budget requiring clip episode, see the last few episodes being banished to premiere only on the website.)

  • @joshuagreenwood6621
    @joshuagreenwood6621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    On rewatching Korra I definitely have a better understanding of where the writers were trying to take her story. I think that if they had more time perhaps they could have really explored these themes the way I'm sure they wanted to

  • @AMoniqueOcampo
    @AMoniqueOcampo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Maybe one way to rework the whole "superweapon" and colossus issue is to change the macguffin into focus more on Kuvira's fascism and develop the equivalent of air-raid bombs. Similar to the "scorched earth" strategy that Fire Lord Ozai did, only with actual gunpowder or electricity.

  • @Zevoxian
    @Zevoxian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Gotta say I absolutely loved the first half of this season where Kuvira is presented in a more nuanced light. I think there’s actually a lot of sympathy and audience can give a leader figure for trying to reduce strife and suffering if the people and get carried away with order to the detriment of the society.
    She’s an under rated antagonist due to nuclear robot warfare

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like he should survive because he does the fire bubble thing that Zuko does in season one of ATLA, but he’s still really badly injured.

  • @rmsgrey
    @rmsgrey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The giant mecha is definitely part of the same show as the Unalaq/Vaatu v Korra/Raava battle. It also makes a lot of sense that the easiest thing to do with the spirit vines and their spirit energy is destruction. The thing I'd change there is not getting rid of the S2 kaiju battle, nor the mecha here, but rather changing the spirit cannon's effect. Rather than just blasting neat holes through things with no fallout, no side-effects, have it transform and awaken the targets, spawning twisted spirits. Rather than a clean superweapon, it's one that requires cleanup afterwards, increasing the parallels with nuclear bombs.
    You can also then have Korra as Avatar intercepting the final blast and not only saving Kuvira's life, and opening a new Spirit Portal, but also spilling purifying spirit energy around the City, healing the twisted spirits created by earlier blasts.

    • @scarletrevon522
      @scarletrevon522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oooooh that’s a fun idea love it pretty cool!

  • @dronicx4002
    @dronicx4002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    holy crap. 12 minutes of credits and patreon names just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. I think that speaks volumes about the quality of the series and honestly the quality of the content in general.

  • @ismael1287
    @ismael1287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    -"You'll remain in charge, but under my supervision."
    -I'm sorry. That came out wrong."
    The dialogues you wrote feel so in character.

    • @shadamyandsonamylover
      @shadamyandsonamylover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      While I agree, both of those were quotes in the original show lol

    • @ismael1287
      @ismael1287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@shadamyandsonamylover Actually, I was wondering whether they were straight from the show. But to be honest, I'm not a big fan of Korra, so I didn't even check.

    • @shadamyandsonamylover
      @shadamyandsonamylover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ismael1287 i wasnt either. These rewrites were really good. The ending was pretty bad in the original show imo.

    • @ismael1287
      @ismael1287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​ @Shadamy And Sonamy Lover Yes, the rewrites definitely improved the story, but the rules were a bit restrictive. Like season one, for example, I think it needed to be longer.
      But Tim did a great job regardless.

  • @IEnoro
    @IEnoro ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mako's death would've been one of the most devastating deaths in fiction to me. Wish we could've gotten a Korra like this

  • @Infinite_voyager
    @Infinite_voyager 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I loved this rewrite series so much. It’s nice to see LoK getting the love they’re deserved to have. Also, using the Putin analogy for Kuvira is a really great parallel so kudos for involving current events!

  • @mjschul
    @mjschul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I loved this. KORRA GREAT. All I want in the world is to see all of this written into a full fanfiction to go through.

  • @feanorwindwhispers9936
    @feanorwindwhispers9936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I like the baatar death, not sure about Mako's death but both give a more realistic approach. Otherwise, I would not change a bit in the final fight, if there is something that was really well done in the series (Both Last Airbender and Legend of Korra) are the fight scenes, no matter how much I so them, they are master pieces in comparison to other final fights in several series. Instead, I would add a bit of explanation on all of the spiritual vines things. Having Korra nerfed by the element control is a good point too, because it is consistent with the fights she was defeated.

  • @jonathanvilario5402
    @jonathanvilario5402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Between this and Razbuten's fix for season 2, I've essentially rewritten the show inside my own head with the scripts you guys provided!

    • @Chorismos
      @Chorismos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Razbuten's Fix feels like fanservice overdose with Unulaaq being even less compelling than in the show if I am being honest. The Civil War plotline is simply better than the Good vs Evil Plotline.

  • @avatarmary
    @avatarmary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    yes for reconnecting to the past avatars...i'm just imagining them getting like...3 years of extra time like "oh we weren't disconnected for that long-oh no she's traumatized"

  • @pontificationnation
    @pontificationnation ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When Netflix does the inevitable live-action adaptation of Korra, I hope they get you on the writing team!

  • @linkinston1927
    @linkinston1927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I honestly can't help but blush a bit in every KorrAsami rewrite (esp 37:30) . The romance feels so fleshed out. Truly outstanding job. I really enjoyed this series it has been a treat.

    • @bixmcgoo5355
      @bixmcgoo5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      personally i think it's cringe when amateur writers describe their fanfiction in youtube videos but you're entitled to your bad taste

    • @linkinston1927
      @linkinston1927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bixmcgoo5355 guess so

    • @gumball6445
      @gumball6445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bixmcgoo5355 I mean you are right but hey he tried

    • @violetlavi2207
      @violetlavi2207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@bixmcgoo5355 then what are you doing here 😂

    • @littlelordfuckleroy3822
      @littlelordfuckleroy3822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@bixmcgoo5355 is it as cringe as intentionally seeking out content you know you don’t like, and commenting so you can get attention for it?

  • @connkahn
    @connkahn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like how you strip korra of all elements and let it be a maturing and spiritual journey to bring it back like mastering was supposed to be

  • @ArcadeJackson-us7mq
    @ArcadeJackson-us7mq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great work! This is my head canon now. Wish I could just rewatch it with these changes. Maybe I’ll just go back to each season right before watching ur changes or Vice versa. ❤

    • @Doomsword0
      @Doomsword0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here, like korra great it is very good as it is, but whenever I think of the show I more than likely will be thinking of this version

  • @tobitobi2493
    @tobitobi2493 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They cut Korra’s hair to save on animation but I think a cool way to really emphasize the depression would have been to have it matted so badly it needed to be cut

    • @Lapagfam
      @Lapagfam ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg that's actually a wonderful idea, can I steal it for a fic?!?

    • @tobitobi2493
      @tobitobi2493 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lapagfam sure. I read somewhere that they simplified her clothes and hair for budget reasons

  • @Rosemary_Benson
    @Rosemary_Benson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    years later, I revisit your channel and you are still making great content

  • @olb406
    @olb406 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    As someone from South Africa (a previously colonised country), I think it would have been really interesting had the LOK writers shifted Kuvira's villain arc more onto taking the United Republic rather than being an evil dictator. I, personally, sympathised a lot with Kuvira at the start of the series, seeing her as an almost post-colonial, unifying figure. Kuvira had so much potential, which I think they ruined when they made her out to be a fascistic and xenophobic figure. I think it would have been much more interesting had Kuvira managed to reunite the earth kingdom somewhat peacefully - still being perceived as a controversial (and slightly authoritarian) figure, but someone necessary for stabilising the earth kingdom. She could have even proved herself to be beneficial for the nation's people: eliminating the threat of bandits and redistributing resources to aid the poorer states, towns and villages. However, I believe she should have started to clash with Korra and the rest of the Avatar world when she advanced on the United republic. Kuvira would only then become more aggressive as the world began to oppose her. Eventually, a showdown would have happened in Republic city, where she would have lost (minus the mechs and spirit vines because that was ridiculous). This would have left the season with a much more nuanced villain and philosophical question. After all, the United Republic's land DID belong to the earth kingdom and was taken away from them by fire nation colonists. When the 100-year war ended, this land was partitioned and given to the United Republic without permission from the Earth Kingdom (this has occurred many times in post-colonial countries - cite the middle east). Kuvira would argue she was only liberating these lands after decades of external rule. So then the debate arises, was Kuvira wrong in wanting this land back? Of course, Korra would have argued that what happened to the Earth kingdom was wrong; however, reclaiming the United Republic would cost many lives. Kuvira would have been so focused on her goal of reunification that she disregards this, and she and Korra fight. Korra defeats her, and Kuvira reluctantly agrees to return to the earth kingdom. However, Korra and her allies don't leave feeling too great themselves. They come to sympathise with Kuvira and understand the wrongs Aang and Zuko took when forming the United Republic, and how many people it still affects. The season ends with them pledging to resolve it.
    Anyways, I think this resolution would have been much more enjoyable. If they had fleshed out Kuvira's character to be more of a fervent earth kingdom nationalist and defender rather than a cruel and somewhat evil dictator, the season would have sparked a productive conversation about colonialism and how it STILL affects the world today. It would also have been far more educational to younger viewers.

    • @kaynight64
      @kaynight64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Ol B, found your comment really interesting.
      Have you read The Promise by any chance? If you haven't, its set shortly after the end of ATLA, and it features Aang and Zuko having to deal with the existing Fire Nation colonies in the Earth Kingdom, and it explains the rationale they had for transforming some of these colonies into a new state rather than returning them to their original owners, from which they were stolen. I think you'll disagree with the decisions the Gaang makes in this comic - and fairly so - but I would actually really love to hear your opinion on it, as its a very level-headed exploration of their characters and the post-war scenario IMO.
      In some sense, except during the 100-year period of Fire Nation tyranny, all major political conflicts are settled in the way the Avatar considers best, and sometimes the Avatar gets it wrong! So having this kind of debate in Korra would be good.

    • @umwha
      @umwha ปีที่แล้ว

      Africa provides many examples of how I’m post colonized countries , dictators do reliably arise and it’s generally from the population that was colonized - not the population that did colonize. This fits kuvira as she’s earth kingdom, and Republic City was earth kingdom. So, Kuviras story, like the African dictators , actually show that it’s the natives go dictatorship. Additionally, when we talk about the colonisation we have to a acknowledge that the colonizing country generally brings modern technological advancement that brings the native culture out of the past. This is clearly referenced in Avatar because the Earth kingdom remains archaic and medieval , while the fire nation brought metallurgy to the place that became Republic city, and RC is currently tbe most modern city in the world, with the most technological advancements. So the message is actually closer to ‘Decolonialism is bad’ rather than ‘colonism is bad’

  • @thewildeus2583
    @thewildeus2583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can't come over babe last part of fixing the legend of korra just dropped

  • @DracowolfieDen
    @DracowolfieDen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really really hope the new Avatar studios watches this series of videos you've done. I don't expect them to do any of the things you wrote, but I think it would be very helpful for understanding how a good story structure for Avatar plays out and what topics don't fit as well as others. You tied everything together so nicely.

  • @sheridynart7334
    @sheridynart7334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I’m not a big fan of legend of Korra, but I love your fixing videos! It makes me wish this was the kind of show we could have gotten!! Thank you!!

  • @TheVisionaryLeo
    @TheVisionaryLeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great envision! While I don't think Mako didn't need to die, but I can see why you chose to.
    Keep up the great work!!

  • @ssemo
    @ssemo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tried to get my wife to watch this show. Couldn’t sink the hook. You did great to rewrite it all!

  • @thatguy7802
    @thatguy7802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The flashback episode was annoying, but it's not really the writers fault. From Wikipedia:
    "After Nickelodeon cut the season's budget by the amount required for one episode, DiMartino and Konietzko decided to include a clip show, which reuses previously produced animation, as episode 8 ("Remembrances") instead of dismissing many of the creative staff."
    Unfortunate but it seems like the best decision they could have made given the circumstances

  • @elius1548
    @elius1548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    KORRA GREAT. I’m glad you still kept the Nickelodeon censors in mind when improving Korrasami. This felt deeper, but not necessarily more explicit like Nick would’ve never allowed

  • @enigmatic2878
    @enigmatic2878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    BWAAAAAAHH never ceases to make me laugh.
    Anyways, I love how you handled Korra's healing and even gave me an idea for a different story (assuming i ever pick myself up to do it)
    Korra great

  • @MrSongsword
    @MrSongsword 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always love hearing you and others exercise their minds making suggestions on how to take the stories we share and bring them to another level. Thank you.

  • @DutchSimmer1
    @DutchSimmer1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I binged all your videos about the rewrites and one thing I'd like to mention is Lin Beifong. Maybe I missed it, but one thing that could make her and Toph further reconnect is her still not being able to bend. For Lin, this can feel like a "handicap", although it's not actually that of course, but she does have to adapt to the world missing something she had her whole life.
    So what I was thinking is that Lin shows off through seasons 2 and 3 that she's training in hand to hand combat and maybe even chi-blocking, which would feel foreign to her as an earth bender, because it requires her to be quick on her feet and move swiftly, which contrasts with earth bending. This can serve as a bonding moment between her and Korra, where Korra explains that air bending also felt very foreign to her because she's kinda like Lin in her fighting style.
    During season 4, after the time jump we can see that she has gotten a lot better at chi-blocking, but not fully mastered of course. And although she has learned to fight and protect her loved ones again, she still doesn't feel whole again. When she finally reconnects with Toph, this can further help getting them along more as she opens up about her feeling like she is weaker and, in her mind, lesser then Suyin and other benders because she lost her ability to bend. Toph can then comfort her, telling her that she also used to feel like this as a young child, but discovered to work her way around her blindness to become even stronger than she ever imagined. Some more dialogue should happen where Lin and Toph are clearly talking about feeling handicapped, but I'm not that experienced and it should be written by someone who actually knows what that is like.
    The point being for what I wrote is that Lin felt a bit left to the side after season 1, and only becomes more relevant again because she's a Beifong and not because she's Lin. Following your rewrite where she doesn't get her bending back (as I interpreted it anyway), she still manages to play a bigger role in the story and serves as a nice side story about personal perseverance.
    Alternatively she can start trying to learn how to earth bend again through the badgermoles after learning that Korra relearned her water bending after interacting with the ocean, which than can still serve as a deeper connection moment for Toph and Lin, because Toph also learned earth bending by the badgermoles. I don't know, both sound like some resolution for her character. I don't see Lin just giving up fighting and that kind of stuff after losing her bending.
    Of course I understand that you can't go over every character and Lin certainly isn't a major character in TLOK, but she's one of my favourite minor characters in the series so I'd like to think of this as some sort of thought experiment. If someone has something to add or change please let me know, I'd love to hear everyones thoughts.

    • @Lapagfam
      @Lapagfam ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES I was just thinking how cool it would be if Toph took Lin on a life changing field trip to bend with badgermoles

  • @justinzohner6964
    @justinzohner6964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great work Tim. This rewrite makes the whole series feel more cohesive and organic.

  • @garrito3
    @garrito3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The first section about Kuvira conquering warlords reminds me of the movie Hero(directed by Zhang Yimou). In the film, its a fantastical depiction of an assassin plotting to kill the emperor of China. In at the end of the film, the emperor is portrayed not a bloodthirsty warlord, but genuinely trying to achieve peace by uniting all of China, granted through bloodshed and conflict. I wish this is the direction they took Kuvira in.

  • @RuviGaPo
    @RuviGaPo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Korra's ptsd is the best thing abt this show ill die on this hill

  • @sander303
    @sander303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I just say that your end cards, while relatively simple with audio, are SO goddamn relaxing? Genuinely the best rain white noise audio I've heard in a long time

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Like with all your other videos, I really appreciate you singing the praises of the show far above what everyone else has done 😊

  • @Grey-the-gey
    @Grey-the-gey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly that voice acting of yours thats just casually thrown in there gives me goosebumos every time. Esp with Korras first line.
    Aand korra awkwardly trying to find out if asami likes her romantically. I just love that interaction.
    Also, thanks for taking a good show and making it great

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Frankly I'd have been happy if Korra, Asami and Mako just stayed friends. Bolin can still be with Opal but there's not rule that says the characters in Korra have to hook up with anyone. It made a bit more sense with Aang because 1. He was a little kid and wore his emotions on his sleeve, including attraction, 2. Aang pretty much HAD to fall in love with someone in order for Airbending to stay alive 3. It was established in episode one he had an attraction to Katara and things only started to really develop in Season 3, so it felt earned.
    Korra and Asami hooking up in the Fourth Season after at best acting like just good friends will never work for me.

  • @unkemptjargon91
    @unkemptjargon91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That fight in the control room was so smooth. I loved that.

  • @hshackleton678
    @hshackleton678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think Korra shouldn't get the Avatar State back 'til her meditation with Zaheer. The other elements, yes, but the Avatar state for whatever reason remains blocked off. It could even be that during her fight with Kuvira, she *tries* to use it, and fails.

  • @lavendermenace8078
    @lavendermenace8078 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The only thing I will say with this rewrite of Asami, is that it kinda makes her character fall into the trope of the female love interest only being in service to the main character, and only there to elevate that character.
    When you remove her arch with her dad, it eliminates a lot of the personal growth she has, as well as a story line where she is able to have the main focus. Similar with the hummingbird mechs, it acts as a reminder to the audience of the talent and skills she brings to the table. This can help present her character as more of a equal to Korra, with her own goals, accomplishments, and decisions. She is similarly capable of combat, is deeply smart, and quickly learns and adapts to situations. In doing this, Asami is conveyed less as a damsel (kinda in distress)that needs to be protected.
    The edit should avoid writing only included Asami in the narrative to be a romantic partner to be pursued, and as the emotional support and confidant, which is a way women are often wrote as in media. They desperately needed to develop their relationship better. Korrasami in the show was definitely not developed throughly, came across rushed and lacked a lot of emotional buildup that would have helped make it a super sick relationship. Their relationship deserved better, and it sucks cause depicting a happy queer relationship for the target demographic would have been amazing.
    I like a lot of what this edit could do for Korras character, but is should not comes at a cost of Asami being a full fledged character. She deserves to not just be a plot accessory to make Korra better.

  • @JM-us3fr
    @JM-us3fr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love it! I especially loved the call backs to pro bending when Mako and Bolin were fighting. Honestly, these edits could have made Korra into an instant classic just like ATLA, if not even better.

  • @dudleymq
    @dudleymq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really enjoyed your re-writes! I agree that Mako shouldn't have survived; and that it made no sense to have everyone walk out of that building Kuvira bombed unscathed and without explanation. The thematic connections between the seasons was excellent, as was your more thoughtful worldbuilding and development of the relationship between Korra and Asami. Thanks for this!

  • @joshmartin4914
    @joshmartin4914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brilliant stuff, so happy to see this series done!
    Given me so many ideas for my stories, so thanks so much!

  • @demuredaemon4684
    @demuredaemon4684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Korra great! I've been watching your rewrite the past few days and I love it! The only thing I wasn't a huge fan of is Mako dying. That may just be because I'm a huge Mako simp but I think rather than killing him off it would've been good if he was severely injured and, like in your story, Bolin was comforted by Opal. Maybe he's in a touch and go kind of situation but when it's revealed that Mako will survive, Opal decides to help Bolin take care of his brother and make sure Bolin is holding up ok. As well I might've spaced out but was the whole "all the avatars before her have been erased" thrown out? I know a lot of people weren't a big fan of it but I thought the concept was really interesting, kind of showing how the avatar now has to take on a very different role than ever before, almost like a clean slate. I absolutely loved listening to your rewrite and hope to find more things I'm interested in on your channel : )

  • @chapablo
    @chapablo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In their final conversation, I would have liked to see Kuvira’s dialogue to be her attempting to align with Korra and the avatar’s role in the world:
    “The avatar is supposed to bring balance to the world. I was trying to do the same. You were gone, and the earth kingdom, my home, was in chaos. I wanted to bring order back to my people. How is that different from what you’ve done - from what all avatars have done?”
    Every villain in Korra had a vision of what “balance” looks like. Equality, spirituality, freedom, order. It’s the lack of their own internal balance and their use of force to overcorrect the status quo that places them against Korra. It would be her opportunity to use all the wisdom she’s acquired to explain that to Kuvira, to let her know balance, order, and peace are not the same, nor are they mutually exclusive. It’s in the *struggle* for balance that the Avatar (and all of us) find purpose.

  • @neko6123
    @neko6123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really loved your rewrite, enjoyed it a lot and I think the biggest flaws of the main series are fixed now, especially having Asami as an Equalist and working Korrasami into the story. Also, ironic how the "worst" season (season 2) had the greatest potential for a rewrite. I always thought that KORRA GREAT had more potential than they dared or rather could make good use of, and I am so happy to see it fulfilled this way!! Thank you so much for taking us through the legend of Korra, once again!

  • @BillErak
    @BillErak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This was a great rewrite! I have my own issues with it, but I do believe this could be a version of Korra that existed in a universe where Nickelodeon wasn't constantly trying to sabotage the show. Though honestly, not adding a kiss at the end is a big no-no. Kataang had it, give it to korrasami too.

  • @greengal111796
    @greengal111796 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God I wish you wrote on this show. Your videos improving Korra have been incredible and finally give us the Korrasami we deserve.

  • @The_Bashar
    @The_Bashar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I *MUST* commend you on making Mako and Bo Lin waaayyy more compelling! I have suffered an attack of the onions, I cant stop 😭.
    Thank you, most kindly!
    Edit: bold and great choice on Mako. *JUST RIGHT* 👌

  • @aleshiacote-young9962
    @aleshiacote-young9962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way you told the story of loosing elements/avatar state and regaining them was how it should’ve been told in the first place!

  • @uncertain_zee
    @uncertain_zee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel like so many of the issues i have with the show boil down to the awful writing of relationships - the love triangle, Korrasami being sudden and also barely there, bolin and the twins, varrick and Zhu li, and even with friendships the fact that we don't see the four of them becoming friends almost at all before the love triangles start happening. And another comment talked about this, but how character's conflicts are constantly reflected by their love interest/s.o having an issue with it rather than their own internal conflict. That's fine sometimes, especially to add to a character's stress and up the stakes, but it does the opposite if that starts to seem like the main issue a character has with whatever is happening. And i don't think I'll ever get over the harsh and to me clumsy soft magic to hard magic switch in the beginnings, it's obviously all personal preferences but to me this detracted enough from the show to make it difficult to get through.

  • @KingOfLagOfficial
    @KingOfLagOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so glad I found your videos. I had hated how they destroyed avatar korra and thought it was a lesser show compared to the original. However, the way you put the story together in your videos brings so much more depth and meaning to the story. I really wish they did a reboot of the show with your ideas, if only people weren't pushed to pump out crappy products to adhere to a company who just wants to make money. If only they could tell a story that could change the landscape of a generation like the first avatar show did. No other show had ever captured such depth of character, such intrinsic worldbuilding, and such relatable lessons. I truly wish more writers would learn this and I hope one day I can create something even halfway decent like you.

  • @sueanoimm
    @sueanoimm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for making these Korra rewrite videos. It makes my fond memories of it that much more fonder.

  • @fanimedusoleil
    @fanimedusoleil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Korra great!!!
    Honestly, I kinda hope that someday they´ll come around to re-animating both series. And this tale you´ve created kinda makes me hope if it happens it´ll go something like this.
    Every once in a while I come back to your channel and you fill me with good vibes. Even after that monstruosity (in a good way) you just put out about the Japanese madman cover-up. Good vibes, dude. You inspire me so much.

  • @Actionfigure_fit
    @Actionfigure_fit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    For all of it’s flaws I think Korra is a AMAZING story. It has some of the highest highs in all of Avatar (season 3) as well as some of the lowest lows (season 2) but as a series that faced countless obstacles it had no right to be as good as it was… I LOVE KORRA… KORRA GREAT 😁👍🏾💪🏾

  • @SunlaudMaynew
    @SunlaudMaynew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this series. I always felt that somethink is off with LoK, but when i started analyzing i just couldnot find any serious problems. Yet the series felt amyss. I came to undertanding that 'LoK is good ideas mixed with weird directives/cuts/changes/forced decisions which damaged the integriuty and made it feel bad'. But with your videos i finally learned where exactly these problems of perception were. And i geniunly like your rewritting!

  • @inshayana
    @inshayana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved this whole series. Made me like korra more.
    but it felt a bit "IN HINDSIGHT"
    because it's easier to correct things than create them.
    that being said, you "corrected" absolutely everything I didn't like in the original series ahahaha
    so, thank you!

  • @SpookyDeerArt
    @SpookyDeerArt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    glad i finally watched this! i honestly haven't rewatched korra much since i first saw it as it aired/streamed like... a decade ago now? wow?? but i remember being neutral to unsatisfied with parts you brought up in this series. i wasn't anywhere near as analytical about media back then as i am now (what with being a teenager and all) and i really love what you brought to the table! my sibling is more actively into LoK than i am and i mentioned i was binge watching your alta and korra vids today and they were like "oh yeah i watched those awhile back" so you've gotten two members of our family on board!

  • @justsomeguywithahandlebarm2456
    @justsomeguywithahandlebarm2456 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    so recently in history class we've been covering the reunification of italy and germany and on one of the topics we had to make a distinction between the french defintion of a nation and the german definition (nation/ality is a set of common beliefs and ideologies that a group of people follow according o the lesson) in the fench version a nation is described as only capable of existing within the state and in the german version it is described as all encompassing thing that anyone can be a part of no matter their location
    german version sounds better right? it effectively represents what we're doing right now and trying to connect everyone to bring about amore peaceful world, until you see the slow creep of propaganda that while maybe unintentional in the future allows for a set of very nice people to 'justify' their expansionism by saying that they are "simply reclaiming what was already ours" and "bringing our brothers in arms together while purging that which has corrupted them" and listening to this video really got me thinking about the fact that no matter how good of an ideology you build and how flawless it may be as long as bad people exist they will use anything to justify their 'bad actions' and in tern suck out all the good said ideology was meant to bring
    simply the futility of thinking that by regulating what is accepted and what the people believe or even think of will change anything(for both people trying to find the bad in good ideologies and trying to find the good in bad mindsets) because as long as they are people that have free will it won't
    of course i have no way of solving such an issue but i believe that at least pointing it out might be something and might do any amount of good (or maybe bad...)

  • @rosaliegrace905
    @rosaliegrace905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Tim! Hope you're well!

  • @kab6754
    @kab6754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I liked LoK, even have the Blu-rays. Like you said it had a lot of interesting ideas but never explored them; like having a giant ocean but they only stuck to the shallows. Even the comics didn't explore much and felt like fanfiction, and they were still written by the creators!

  • @jasminlynch22
    @jasminlynch22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man, thos was uploaded just before I went to sleep. Knowing this was what I will wake up to, only for it to be so much better.

  • @932ForeverLove
    @932ForeverLove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Korra's trauma also stockpiled until she couldn't be the Avatar for awhile.

  • @manymangos
    @manymangos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just s tier analysis, and super practical, accessible way to talk about storytelling . much cool. very dig.

  • @joshsimpson1283
    @joshsimpson1283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved the Korra show that we got, but I really want to see your rewrite. It fixes the few issues I had in really great ways.

    • @scarletrevon522
      @scarletrevon522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah korra has ways been one of my favs but this fixed a lot of the things that I didn’t like about it especially the spirit canons BWWAAAAAAAAAA

  • @knightslayer9621
    @knightslayer9621 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how you did some great rewriting of the entire series, and it makes the show more interesting and believable to a point that I wish that you had been on the writing team for it. though the one change I would add/change is that in the final battle after Kuvira and Kora talk that Kuvira does not surrender but keeps on fighting with the reason that although they have common ground she can not trust Kora. they fight and Kuvira kills kora and succeeds in re-uniting the earth kingdom as it originally was.
    I say this not because I hate Kora but because that part would feel so much more natural and would open a path to a new future and tie in new concept of how the avatar will evolve in the future. basically ripping out how the avatar traditionally did things and being free to how they would be used if the avatars world became modern. I do not really know how to describe it but I'm leaving that open for interpretation.
    another thing is that I know another video does cover this in that someone did a video that does something similar to what I'm saying but cant find it and it has more of an explanation of the reason and consequence of the reality if kora failed and died and a new avatar being born in the new earth kingdom under Kuvira's control. where she finds the avatar and raises them to be loyal to her and see things her way and support her. If anyone can find that video and post it here i and probably a few million others in the future would be thankful.

  • @deathbat5597
    @deathbat5597 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "They would immediately combust into rainbow confetti"

  • @sebo641
    @sebo641 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KORRA GREAT
    I really appreciate what you did with these rewrites and honestly I was shedding a few tears for this season rewrite.

  • @kelpiekit4002
    @kelpiekit4002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done. Ideas for what I would change on this would be mostly with the colossus. I think making it more of a rail gun so earth bending meets the technology of magnetism in it, making it much more of a distinctly earth kingdom weapon. Also, rather than it finally ending up on the giant robot, I would would have it naval. Either some sort of super carrier or ironside or possibly submarine (though the later is weaker). Though a bit time anachronistic it would be intended to invoke the image of the British vs the Chinese in the time of the opium wars. As a final thing I would have Kuvira, being defeated physically and philosophically, find some way to make Kora flee to save someone. Possibly she reveals the loyal Julie is in place to do something drastic. When Kora leaves and Kuvira starts regathering herself Asami confronts Kuvira and defeats and apprehends her, giving a more satisfying conclusion to the equalist story, switching the support and hero roles between Asami and Kora for a bit, and subverting the expectation of the powerful bender victory.

  • @realkrishna01
    @realkrishna01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I LOVED the Korrasami angle in the swamp scene!

  • @andrewwang8021
    @andrewwang8021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been waiting for this!
    Edit: Regarding the spirit energy weapons, I thought it would be interesting if Kuvira pushed their development due to increasing paranoia about the other nations violating the Earth Empire's sovereignty, and that, to her, the only way to prevent them from interfering in the affairs of the nation would be through "deterrents." Many of her policies and actions as dictator are motivated by these nationalistic sentiments, so I think throwing in paranoia that leads to prejudice against non-Earth benders would be somewhat realistic.
    On the thematic portrayal of the Avatar's changing role in a modernizing society, I generally prefer the approach taken in the show where the spirits and their world begin to become more explored and the energy they produce being quantified and harnessed in new technology. For me, this "demystification" of the spirits parallels the rise of rationalism over religion and the decline of traditional culture in favor of societal modernization. The fact that people now view spirits in a fundamentally more "physical" than "ethereal" way thanks in part to drastic advancements in science has, to me, some interesting implications about shifting views in the time of Korra.
    I honestly have far too many thoughts about Kuvira to put them down here. My reimagining of her is far more drastic in terms of how much she changed (like Asami for me), which deviates from the premise established by this series. The version in the video's reimagining is definitely more optimal for the story she falls in, but I personally would've quite liked to see the flashback episode be used as I believe it was originally intended (I got this from hearsay, I am likely wrong), to explore her backstory. The idea of a dictator projecting their own trauma onto the country they lead is a fascinating one to me, and the exploration that they do do in the comics is enjoyable, but still not as in-depth as I would like it to be. I do definitely agree with the point raised in the video that the conditions for Kuvira's rise to power ought to reflect the nationalistic fervor of the people, which is why I think integrating that fact into Kuvira's background would have been an excellent way to have the cake of good world-building and eating it too with an interesting backstory for the season's main villain. What I have specifically in mind is too long and complicated for here (it involves deeply emphasizing Kuvira's relationship with Su, the history of Zaofu before the arrival of the Beifongs, and being physically disabled by the harsh conditions of what once was a backwards and unforgiving mining town), seeing as this comment is already far too long.

  • @elitettelbach4247
    @elitettelbach4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Korra great! Really enjoyed your fixes to season 4 and the whole show in general! You definitely tightened things up thematically and made for a more cohesive show.

  • @jessenadeau9693
    @jessenadeau9693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    KORRA GREAT!!! Genuinely though it's one of my favorite shows of all time and has had a huge impact on my own creativity and the way I analyze other art
    I was worried at first when your series started ngl cause of how much hate the show otherwise gets in certain internet circles but i neednt have worried. It's been a fantastic journey so far and I'm sure this video will be great as well!
    (So yeah now watched the whole video and I think most of your changes work, bringing out the thematics of the season into sharper focus and giving korrasami the few more building blocks it needed. Overall I think its been a great rewrite! Agreed that season 1 is the one that's hardest to kinda make satisfactory just cause in fiction I think it's really hard to tackle inequality brought on by superpower thing. In my opinion it's something the xmen series has never quite sold perfectly despite the metaphor still having emotional impact and i think that's true here too. Maybe it's possible to make the metaphor work but it stumps me XD. Anyway great stuff! One last time... KORRA GREAT)

  • @hajime5486
    @hajime5486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Tim! I have been improving my writing because of you